'Mysticism, Spirit and the Shadow' - Jordan Peterson interview part 1

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  • The first part of Rebel Wisdom's exclusive interview with psychologist and professor Jordan Peterson - where he talks in depth about his understanding of mysticism, religion and the challenge of integrating the shadow.
    Rebel Wisdom is a new media organisation making films about the biggest subjects. For more: www.rebelwisdom.co.uk
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    If you are in London - come to an exclusive screening of unseen material, and join an ongoing discussion group around Dr Peterson's ideas.
    For our full 50 minute documentary looking at the fundamentals of Jordan Peterson's thinking - see: • Video

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  • @MOOSEHEADstadia2024
    @MOOSEHEADstadia2024 Před 5 lety +774

    I love to see JP relaxed with an interviewer who isn’t constantly trying to set a trap for him.

    • @unitedspacepirates9075
      @unitedspacepirates9075 Před 4 lety +12

      We'd like to hear a talk show hosted by Jordan Peterson

    • @andrewcox3686
      @andrewcox3686 Před 4 lety +6

      Amen

    • @jeziscricket4448
      @jeziscricket4448 Před 4 lety +6

      Matt dillahunty thought he was debating him but he was only interviewing him

    • @chrysalis72
      @chrysalis72 Před 4 lety +10

      A genius thats come into the world doesn't deserve to be tortured the way ive seen and also dislike.

    • @kimbadull6448
      @kimbadull6448 Před 4 lety +12

      Word. It gets boring watching the traps when the gold is in just listening. He has much wisdom to share that pushes me into more inquiry.

  • @sethfullerton1498
    @sethfullerton1498 Před 6 lety +1555

    Jordan Peterson seems to be to Western thought what Alan Watts was to Eastern thought. He presents a very compelling and interesting collection of the best lessons from an entire tradition and presents them in a way that you can effectively integrated into your life. Fantastic stuff.

  • @kotodamamidnight412
    @kotodamamidnight412 Před 5 lety +341

    “Humans are all too powerful to be naive. we are not going to survive unless we face our darkness.”
    -J Peterson, circa 2019

  • @Mevlinous
    @Mevlinous Před 5 lety +98

    This man wears a cardigan like a boss.

    • @Psilocybin77
      @Psilocybin77 Před 10 měsíci

      “Pull over…no it’s a cardigan, thanks for noticing”

  • @paulet990
    @paulet990 Před 6 lety +396

    This is the Dr. Peterson I love. Calm, wise, funny.

    • @chrisv.noire.6388
      @chrisv.noire.6388 Před 4 lety +7

      embrace his shadow too. Don't just nitpick the parts you like ;)

  • @andrewmckeown6786
    @andrewmckeown6786 Před 6 lety +612

    Im a 45 yr old Canadian white guy. I totally believe the good Dr to be a perfect Canadian. This was what men were, and were encouraged to be like when I was young. Rugged manhood, tempered with love, intelligence responsibility and self sacrifice....I dont know why/how/when it all changed......

  • @thecarlitosshow7687
    @thecarlitosshow7687 Před 4 lety +82

    One time someone asked CS Lewis where evil comes from and he said, "I have to look no further than my own heart."

    • @wowser44
      @wowser44 Před 3 lety +6

      Yup when we see snakes around is because they’re deep in the depths of our hearts as well

    • @Maestro-gh2ei
      @Maestro-gh2ei Před 3 lety +3

      Muy basado mis hermanos

  • @armin_tab
    @armin_tab Před 4 lety +40

    21:32
    "You’re stuck with a certain number of profound experiences, and all of them can be negative if you let the default manifest itself."
    That statement really resonated with me. It took me a while to realise from ruminating on my own suffering that when brought down to its most cardinal form, it all came from me letting the world go by, and allowing time to decide things for me, instead of actively making things happen for myself.

  • @philu4621
    @philu4621 Před 6 lety +419

    Let me watch this about 50 more times to pick apart all the nuances. Holy crap...he puts out more intricate ideas within 30 seconds than the average person does in 30 days lol.

    • @davidgregory2734
      @davidgregory2734 Před 6 lety +39

      I would go further and say more intricate ideas than the avarage person puts out in their whole life

    • @thehighpriestess8431
      @thehighpriestess8431 Před 5 lety +2

      LOL yes!

    • @kulczman
      @kulczman Před 5 lety +1

      @timwins31 you got it!

    • @kulczman
      @kulczman Před 5 lety +7

      or 30 life times

    • @cactus00001
      @cactus00001 Před 5 lety +8

      Dr Peterson is difficult to follow at times, as his presentations tend to have a rambling "stream of consciousness" quality to them. Audiences exposed to jungian philosophy in a Freudian style tend to glaze over & wake up just in time to applaud like seals. Contrast Peterson's output with that of structured speakers, e.g., the late Christopher Hitchens, George Will, W.F. Buckley or the like.
      *

  • @chantellegiardina5098
    @chantellegiardina5098 Před 6 lety +474

    I literally have had shivers down my spine for the first 10 minutes of this video. I don’t know how to explain it very well and i know that maybe it’s a wasted comment here... but none the less I am grateful for this video and both speakers

    • @brandonbegley5806
      @brandonbegley5806 Před 6 lety +28

      not wasted, thanks for sharing that. For others like you, it's comforting and empowering to know that the message is making its reach, and the personal empowerment is felt. You're another blip on the radar of the revolution. Never feel like such an act is wasted

    • @chantellegiardina5098
      @chantellegiardina5098 Před 6 lety +12

      Brandon Begley
      Yes wasted was the wrong word. What I was trying to say is that It had a profound impact that I couldn’t explain very well. Glad it has resonated with others.

    • @djboudreaujr2
      @djboudreaujr2 Před 6 lety +13

      The veil has been removed and now you are starting to “see” and understand.

    • @joebuslife9275
      @joebuslife9275 Před 6 lety +3

      For me it was the last 10 minutes before the logo.

    • @juliekirkegaard3862
      @juliekirkegaard3862 Před 6 lety +11

      "Shivers down the spine" sounds to me, as an internal movement of the soul. Put in motion through the attunement of your soul to the intonation of his voice and the meaning of what he communicates to you in that moment.

  • @CiMcM135
    @CiMcM135 Před 4 lety +36

    Him and his little cup. So relaxed. He deserves every interview to be like this, not attacks and anxiety ridden clashes that he needs days to recover from

    • @digitalphoenix72
      @digitalphoenix72 Před 6 měsíci

      Agreed, the reason they attack is because they know if they allow him to speak, they can't disprove what he speaks. Best way to defeat an idea is to stop it from taking root in the first place. Im paraphrasing 1984.

  • @madwilliamflint
    @madwilliamflint Před 5 lety +35

    First time I've heard Peterson interviewed by someone who also had something to say. Nicely done.

  • @Ken-xp6hv
    @Ken-xp6hv Před 6 lety +377

    diamond in the rough, this deserves more views.

    • @viracocha03
      @viracocha03 Před 6 lety +11

      Jordan Peterson is prophet of modern times.

    • @Brock1812
      @Brock1812 Před 6 lety +3

      Don't call him a prophet. You'll make him a target for muslims.

    • @tansgauntlett1671
      @tansgauntlett1671 Před 6 lety

      MUSICAL ALCHEMY IS AT THE HEART OF THIS: czcams.com/video/oRMQVugM2rQ/video.html

    • @0i0l0o
      @0i0l0o Před 6 lety +1

      haha, well, that is a good point :)

    • @italob
      @italob Před 6 lety

      Keneetyypoioiii😄😎😁😏😆😍😍😅😃😑neth Vo

  • @jarijansma2207
    @jarijansma2207 Před 6 lety +428

    He's changing my life.

    • @brandonbegley5806
      @brandonbegley5806 Před 6 lety +14

      Jari Jansma Fuckin same

    • @cyborgchicken3502
      @cyborgchicken3502 Před 6 lety +23

      Chuka O how and why is he pathetic? Sounds like you're someone that needs a bit of life changing yourself...if you consider some one who needs motivation and inspiration to change their life as being pathetic...then what does that say about you? You'd only say that about someone else if you're insecure about yourself...maybe do a bit of self examination before judging others buddy

    • @616Haggard
      @616Haggard Před 6 lety

      💥!
      Absolutely right.

    • @brianlockyer7399
      @brianlockyer7399 Před 5 lety +5

      Waylon Hicken don't worry they are a late bloomer... They'll get it sooner or later :)

    • @robertsnell9404
      @robertsnell9404 Před 5 lety +6

      The Late Bloomer … What a egotistical response.. ironically! if he is listening to Peterson and applying his message, he's in fact doing the opposite of being pathetic.

  • @cris7307
    @cris7307 Před 5 lety +99

    Who is this man!!!???
    OMG!! I have found truth!! I completely relate.
    Wow....Thank You!!
    Life changing.

    • @lizwinkelaar3613
      @lizwinkelaar3613 Před 5 lety +6

      Welcome to the rabbit hole

    • @dannish2000
      @dannish2000 Před 5 lety

      Really glad to hear that! :)

    • @cliffsuddaby6581
      @cliffsuddaby6581 Před 4 lety +1

      He was born in Grand Prairie Alberta and went to school around the same time as Rachel Notley and Chrystia Freeland and read the same books . infect one of there mom was the librarian .

    • @nicholascork8646
      @nicholascork8646 Před 3 lety

      Wot ar you all serious

  • @barsenovic
    @barsenovic Před 5 lety +43

    4:30 I agree with Dr. Peterson here... I've been to raves and nightclubs where in the later hours of the event, the music gets better and everyone is dancing and making a statement but it felt like we were all on the same frequency.. like there was this unspoken mutual understanding that's beyond our human condition... times like that where I felt so connected to the "family"... i love that feeling of unity with my brothers and sisters.

    • @evenflow3256
      @evenflow3256 Před 5 lety +4

      Drugs and booze kick in better around then also

    • @stephennicholas1590
      @stephennicholas1590 Před 4 lety +1

      barsenovic
      I find it all too rare in this world that amazing feeling of collectively sharing HEALTHY love and unity.
      Too often what people feel is collective pathology and the shared horror of the mob mentality.

    • @patrickmcdonough7008
      @patrickmcdonough7008 Před 4 lety

      Great way to describe those moments of higher inclusivity. I call that the One . . .in the many. But, without that "many" . . .there is no One.

    • @TheMrMRsmoke
      @TheMrMRsmoke Před 2 lety

      lol molly frequency

    • @karlb.Am.I
      @karlb.Am.I Před rokem

      E'zzz are good too !

  • @robcamacho2324
    @robcamacho2324 Před 5 lety +20

    I'm in awe of this man's intelligence and eloquence! And I love the way he says "body"!

  • @bearifiablepau2095
    @bearifiablepau2095 Před 5 lety +81

    "We are too powerful to be naiive" basically sums up what I've been trying to convey to the people around me for the last couple of years. It is not easy to shake somebody (full grown adults, I mean) out of naivety as it comes with a very comfortable cushion of irresponsibility... for years I felt like I've been drowning in a sea of carelessness, dispassionate attitudes and cynicism; JP has helped me gain clarity to my situation, to what I stand for; he ingeniously found a way to put it into words that ever present "thing" that consistently has me down and that I am forbidden from talking about. It ignites rage in people when addressing certain truths too directly.
    I know first hand about the power of emotionally-underdeveloped adults. I think being the younger sibling allowed me this perspective.... they say younger siblings are the most pampered. Perhaps, although that comes with the burden of two things: not being taken seriously, ever, and being very easily influenced by most everybody, since instinctively you feel that everyone is more powerful than you, so the best survival strategy is to be a good follower; then you realize, not everyone enjoys being followed even if they say they do. Even if they think they do.

    • @ducksinarowpatience3670
      @ducksinarowpatience3670 Před 4 lety +3

      Bearifiable Pau ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ youngest of four. and at 56 still treated as if I'm 9.

    • @smsimms7593
      @smsimms7593 Před 4 lety +2

      A. You're super cute.
      B. You're wise beyond your years.
      C. It's refreshing to see young ladies getting it - JP is the wise person's smart person...good for you.

    • @brandonchavez4033
      @brandonchavez4033 Před 4 lety +2

      @@ducksinarowpatience3670 Maybe you mean, you "feel" you are still treated as if you were 9? I am the youngest of 3 and father of 4 so I don't have time to feel as if I were 9. I do understand what you are saying though.

    • @juanadiaz558
      @juanadiaz558 Před 2 lety +1

      Opinión

    • @bearifiablepau2095
      @bearifiablepau2095 Před 2 lety

      @@smsimms7593 thanks!

  • @Jsmithyy
    @Jsmithyy Před 5 lety +39

    Potential for havoc. One who understands one sword is so sharp yet remains sheathed for the benefit of all!

  • @jerrygraslie2023
    @jerrygraslie2023 Před 5 lety +26

    He compels me to think and be proud of striving for truth. He is the man I wish I could be

  • @chelsreid1
    @chelsreid1 Před 6 lety +108

    My favorite of jp so far, and I’ve been obsessing over him watching his videos everyday for over a year. If you want to comprehend the concept of “integration” as it applies your experience of self on this planet, this video will take you farther and deeper into understanding, as everything he says s
    Is nestled within archaic foundations of spiritual truth.

    • @baabaheru1284
      @baabaheru1284 Před 5 lety +3

      Chelsea Reid
      Yeah, but by not crediting those ‘archaic foundations’, most of which are Nile Valley sources, Mr Peterson heaps much well deserved praise on Carl Gustave Jung instead of on mr Jung’s AFRAKAN Nile valley sources. Mr. Jung derived his archetype theory from his study of the KMTK Neteru ( misnomered “gods and goddesses in order to defame AFRAKAN Thought as polytheistic. If we are talking TRUTH, let’s go all the way.

    • @galarichardson5259
      @galarichardson5259 Před 5 lety +3

      @@baabaheru1284 I've never heard of what you're talking about but it sounds well interesting, thanks for sharing

    • @stephennicholas1590
      @stephennicholas1590 Před 4 lety

      Chelsea Reid
      Beautifully said.

    • @shikherrazdan6245
      @shikherrazdan6245 Před 11 měsíci

      @chelsia reid
      Have you ever had that kind of spiritual experience?

  • @Enbix
    @Enbix Před 5 lety +81

    (Serious) I'm coming down from probably the most eye opening/life changing psychedelic experience I'll ever have and I'm simply amazed at how much of what I learned during the trip is basically confirmed in this video.

    • @robertcockburn6130
      @robertcockburn6130 Před 5 lety +7

      Both experiences you've had here refined your spirit, never let your divinity be tarnished

    • @unitone2899
      @unitone2899 Před 4 lety +1

      👽👨‍🚀

    • @vincentlaw1415
      @vincentlaw1415 Před 4 lety +4

      Wow! You just confirmed my theory. I was debating with a friend last week about that topic because he had some experiences with psychedelic drugs and I don't, but I'm studying the work of JBP and psychology in general for a long time now and it made me so much more self aware (and I have a great interest in philosophy as well). So I made the assumtion that deep analysis and interspection can lead to simular insights as taking psychedelic drugs, at least that's what everything is pointing towards. He seems a little bit sceptic about it because he doesn't see the other side of the coin yet ......but you right there confirmed it.

    • @allenclark4235
      @allenclark4235 Před 4 lety +4

      @@vincentlaw1415 I am disappointed in your friend. I am a seasoned psychonaut and the morning after my first acid trip was the first day I saw beyond the veil, but the path you are on is the truer path. The main medicine in psychedelics is in dissolving the ego and allowing you to observe the universe as a part of it as opposed to the story you have written about it from your limited perspective. Drugs are just a cheat code or a back door. There is always the possibility they will show you something you aren't ready for or incapable of understanding.

    • @deviantvc
      @deviantvc Před 4 lety

      Liar.

  • @travelsizearchitect
    @travelsizearchitect Před 5 lety +195

    "you take your responsibility for moving the world closer to the heaven or hell"

    • @G_Ozare
      @G_Ozare Před 5 lety

      This.

    • @xaviergarcia6734
      @xaviergarcia6734 Před 5 lety

      How do you know this, Eve?? Lol

    • @TaylorInsight1
      @TaylorInsight1 Před 4 lety

      @Bigboy Littleman right

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth Před 4 lety +2

      Ugh! 'Heaven and Hell' are such dualistically unrealistic ideas, such Zoroastrian based Christian ideals which are blatantly over generalized and not reflective of the complexities of reality.

    • @obscureesoteric7213
      @obscureesoteric7213 Před 4 lety

      @@whatabouttheearth elaborate, what is a realistic view on these realities?

  • @andrerollin645
    @andrerollin645 Před 5 lety +22

    Man… Man … Man … This Man is Amazing !!! When he talk about the continual undermining of the child being a sophisticated way to violent them !!! This Man is the most important person of this decade for sure !!!

    • @stephennicholas1590
      @stephennicholas1590 Před 4 lety

      andre rollin
      I think Jordan Peterson is doing for the fields of Philosophy and Psychology and Mysticism what the Beatles did for music.

  • @MatthewJohnson-ps5uv
    @MatthewJohnson-ps5uv Před 6 lety +62

    truly brilliant. count yourself lucky if you've seen this.

  • @Willlly61
    @Willlly61 Před 6 lety +83

    27:05 "If you're gonna play with fire, you better be a master of fire"
    Don't know where he got that from, but I wrote it down regardless

    • @79Rybred
      @79Rybred Před 6 lety +6

      Willlly61 JP is a Master Blacksmith

    • @babythundercloud
      @babythundercloud Před 4 lety

      Same!

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth Před 4 lety +2

      Well thats stupid, because you only learn to walk by falling on your face.
      Its not like "masters" are just shit out, you cant become a 'master of fire' without being a rookie of fire for a long time.

    • @smsimms7593
      @smsimms7593 Před 4 lety +5

      @@whatabouttheearth Talk about stupid. Taking a metaphor too far much? It's a kitschier blurb about criticizing the world before you have your own house in order - wisdom with which I'm guessing you'd disagree.

    • @AnnaLVajda
      @AnnaLVajda Před 4 lety +1

      Be the fire.

  • @apoclip9523
    @apoclip9523 Před 5 lety +11

    My life is forever changed after watching this. More research is needed. I'm hungry.

  • @JHoopz-gj9fi
    @JHoopz-gj9fi Před 5 lety +50

    I enjoyed the calm, gentle nature of this interview. Both people seem very relaxed and at ease discussing these topics. Great content also. Thank you for sharing.

    • @chrisgadsby5700
      @chrisgadsby5700 Před 3 lety

      The Rebel Wisdom guy is documenting this stuff, but in this video shared a bit of his own personal journey.

  • @lesof11
    @lesof11 Před 6 lety +16

    this is how an interview should be held

  • @anujupreti1490
    @anujupreti1490 Před 5 lety +28

    When he said “I had experiences when everything came together “ I feel like that is what other gurus and saints experience when they say they got enlightened ,,

    • @AnnaLVajda
      @AnnaLVajda Před 4 lety +2

      Maybe he has experienced some miracles.

    • @li-jv9go
      @li-jv9go Před 3 lety

      @@AnnaLVajda yea, he mentioned about that in some other videos

  • @rhondasampsel3238
    @rhondasampsel3238 Před 4 lety +12

    Jordan I have never watched you but at 61
    I am from the Old School raising my Grandson and I absolutely love the way that you think.You are right on in your thinking.I work so hard to do all the right things for the young one with my husband and totally ❤️ agree with you.I could tell you how hard I have fought for this little one whom is very smart.It seems as though schools in general to some children are against the children instead of helping them.Their idea of help is Adderall well not mine.Im homeschooling.What a job but I love him.Thank you for the information will subscribe as you talk Real.
    Nice to hear truth 👍💯

    • @kaylynnwatson3314
      @kaylynnwatson3314 Před 4 lety +3

      Thank you for sacrificing for the future and for walking in love!

  • @ajordan26able
    @ajordan26able Před 3 lety +7

    It will be interesting to hear from Dr. Peterson once he has fully recovered from his present difficulty. No doubt he will have been profoundly changed by the experience. I have tremendous respect for Dr. Peterson.

  • @timrob1
    @timrob1 Před 6 lety +48

    I think this might be one of my favourite interviews of JBP. Subscribed

  • @theinfooverload
    @theinfooverload Před 5 lety +157

    I would love to interview his wife.
    She must be amazing in her own right.

    • @jeffersong9923
      @jeffersong9923 Před 4 lety +1

      You better hurry - she has metastatic cancer..

    • @stephennicholas1590
      @stephennicholas1590 Před 4 lety +1

      Lo Anne Light
      That’s a beautiful observation. I’m sure his wife is a fountain of wisdom and vitality. I have the sense that you’re quite amazing in your own right.

    • @univuniveral9713
      @univuniveral9713 Před 4 lety +1

      like wife, like husband. They are one

    • @z9elka
      @z9elka Před 4 lety +1

      @@lollUK she died?

    • @robinhood6810
      @robinhood6810 Před 4 lety

      So I keep hearing lol

  • @jaygerlach6884
    @jaygerlach6884 Před 5 lety +14

    You 2 have genuine chemistry that is pleasurable to watch play out within a fascinating discussion!
    More please!!! :)

  • @martinvon
    @martinvon Před 4 lety +3

    Imagine having a therapy session with Dr Peterson. The amount of value to be found in his interviews, lectures and public speeches is immense. A personal conversation would be mind blowing to say the least...

  • @amypellegrini1732
    @amypellegrini1732 Před 6 lety +242

    "Gentlemen, you had my curiosity… but now you have my attention."

  • @kurtthekurt
    @kurtthekurt Před 6 lety +88

    beautifully shot, great interview too, thanks for that mate!

  • @islandbuoy4
    @islandbuoy4 Před 5 lety +20

    *“I knew that in finding the mandala as an expression of the Self I had attained what was for me the ultimate. Perhaps someone else knows more, but not I."* -Carl Jung
    Memories, Dreams, Reflections, Jung’s Autobiography
    recorded and edited by Aniella Jaffe pg. 197

  • @jonny1943
    @jonny1943 Před 5 lety +2

    Its an amazing inner journey he shows me, also i learn a few new english words, he is probably the best teacher i ever had. Thnx!

  • @kensanderson1492
    @kensanderson1492 Před 5 lety +3

    I love to listen to Dr. Peterson. This is perhaps his best interview to date. Very deep and multi-layered. Sharing.

  • @vermontextreme
    @vermontextreme Před 4 lety +6

    What he’s talking about musically I witnessed in full bloom at a Tool concert during ozzfest 98. I was at the Massachusetts show what was then call Great Woods. They opened with Stinkfist and when I looked around every sing person in the crowd was nodding to the rhythm. It was an amazing pulse effect and looked like the people’s movements were dictated by the vibrations from the music. It was almost indescribable but if you were there you felt like I did and that everyone there was one being at that moment.

  • @andreabammybartlet8754
    @andreabammybartlet8754 Před 5 lety +5

    JBP at his best along with the camera work, editing and gentle interviewing Thankyou all

  • @1972Diogenes
    @1972Diogenes Před 5 lety +5

    Right on! This is by far the best and most accurate explanation I have heard of mysticism and what it is trying to convey through its specific language. We need more of these people.

  • @williamkoscielniak820
    @williamkoscielniak820 Před 6 lety +222

    When I was younger I was the type of person who would get drunk in my moms basement and fantasize about the most brutal things. And then I'd sober up the next day and I'd feel like a scared, pathetic little mouse who couldn't move. And I didn't know which of me was the "real" me. Was I this sociopathic anti-hero or was I this pathetic, scared little mouse? Well, Peterson is right that it can seem preferable to be the tyrant than to be the weakling. Overtime I've realized that I am of course both of those forces, and that they in fact grew up beside each other and are the opposite ends of the same spectrum. But at the time, it was a serious crises and the thought that I was either some evil maniac OR some pathetic coward was terrifying.

    • @Freeagent-4-life
      @Freeagent-4-life Před 6 lety +16

      William I'm not sure what they would call that crisis, however I experienced the same thing. Thought that I was losing my mind at the time.

    • @9879SigmundS
      @9879SigmundS Před 6 lety +17

      Good work, both of you. Impressive.

    • @americanmambi
      @americanmambi Před 6 lety +23

      I had the same thing happen in my head growing up, but always told myself I was one of the good guys..... then one day I almost killed a bully. I never again let myself go down into a blind rage, I was definitely scared of what I could do all of the sudden. And the world around me forever changed after that as well.

    • @gansonaki
      @gansonaki Před 6 lety +29

      I love seeing so many men, especially, being able to draw these conclusions. Women too, as I have done the same, but I think it’s a lot harder for men (Jung says the same) so it’s more notable when it happens.
      Which is why Peterson’s work is so insanely crucial for men in particular. So much so, that on an unconscious level they seem to know this too, as they’re such a large percentage of those tuning into it.

    • @heavenly3735
      @heavenly3735 Před 6 lety +12

      You were a scared, pathetic, little mouse. You just evolved beyond that. And your shadow is not evil. Black is not evil. Wake up. You are surrounded by blackness half the time. Everything the Creator created is good. Stop imagining black as evil. Rain comes from blackness. Trees grow in blackness. We all came out of a black hole.

  • @karenhartman9774
    @karenhartman9774 Před 4 lety +3

    I love listening to this man lecture! I’ve been keeping him and his family in my prayers after learning of their travails. Wishing them well! Can’t wait for you to have him back. He will be even more wise after what he’s been through. 🙏🏼💗🙏🏼

  • @francismausley7239
    @francismausley7239 Před 5 lety +5

    Thanks for the interesting post. The true nature of the religious experience. "For the core of religious faith is that mystic feeling which unites Man with God." ~ Shoghi Effendi, Baha'i Faith

  • @ChocolateJewels
    @ChocolateJewels Před 4 lety +1

    This is soooooo good! I have goosebumps listening and taking it all in. Brilliant explanation of religion and mysticism. I love this man’s brain!

  • @ilovebutterstuff
    @ilovebutterstuff Před 4 lety +3

    Every single thing this man says puts an emotional bullet into my soul. Most times I just can't take it, because I don't feel like crying tonight or whatever... But, damn.

  • @qisforquartz4969
    @qisforquartz4969 Před 6 lety +19

    Very engaging interview, great job!

  • @HeathDavisHavlick
    @HeathDavisHavlick Před 4 lety +2

    As usual, my brain and heart have exploded after listening to JP! Thanks for this great interview.

  • @NWLee
    @NWLee Před 4 lety +1

    Excellent, revealing conversation, David is so good at this, leaving space for exploration and elaboration.

  • @atelieralanna
    @atelieralanna Před 4 lety +4

    This person is a blessing to humanity.

  • @carolirene49
    @carolirene49 Před 5 lety +3

    This has got to be one of my favorite Jordan Peterson interviews.

  • @stevesalt2921
    @stevesalt2921 Před 5 lety +2

    Excellent talk and professional production values.
    Much abliged fellas!

  • @christianmiller9039
    @christianmiller9039 Před 5 lety +2

    This Man Is Truly Enlightened! I feel amazing after seeing this. Spoke to my soul! Coulda watched another hour lol.

  • @kyleimes7041
    @kyleimes7041 Před 5 lety +17

    JP is such a boss. I'm addicted.

  • @JDTorres-gz9vn
    @JDTorres-gz9vn Před 5 lety +3

    JP is changing my life. So glad i found him.

  • @elaineerskine
    @elaineerskine Před 4 lety +1

    I needed someone as wise as you to point me in the right direction 60 years ago, Dr Peterson. I'm so glad I've found you now. I felt I was drifting aimlessly on an endless sea.

  • @etelharris3869
    @etelharris3869 Před 5 lety +1

    That was one of the best interviews I have ever watched! Brilliant minds! Xx

  • @joanolivermls8650
    @joanolivermls8650 Před 5 lety +3

    God bless you all. Thank you. Searched on ‘distinguishing the shadow’ and learned so much from your conversation. Long time fan of CG Jung and experiencing incredible organic awakening after years of commitment. So worth it👍🏼💕👊

    • @galarichardson5259
      @galarichardson5259 Před 5 lety

      I need to explore this shadow business too. Don't know where/how to start, got any tips?

  • @nettles5714
    @nettles5714 Před 4 lety +5

    At his finest, may you have a speedy recovery...

  • @arditthaqi1976
    @arditthaqi1976 Před 3 lety +1

    He literally described most of what i went after enlightenment, and why u should recognize your bad side and choose the good side as oppose to the bad side of you. The way he describes stages of intelectual and spiritual knowledge and awarness and the realization of you being one with everything and everyone is amazing.

  • @andrewswanlund
    @andrewswanlund Před 5 lety

    Great work, perfect questions. No surprise that people are having goosebumps. It's exciting that ideas that 20 years ago would have gone in one ear and out the other with most people are sticking and resonating, just really wonderful. Thanks!

  • @NightLetterLondon
    @NightLetterLondon Před 6 lety +30

    well done. long time fan and follower of JP. i wish you well with Rebel Wisdom. i feel i might be 'Rebel Catholic'.. someone needs to be (st francis was a long while ago..).

    • @lionelchan1601
      @lionelchan1601 Před 6 lety +1

      I know, this is going to sound all kinds of SJW, hear me out.
      The power of materialist science is in the extent to which it is able to detach its own gaze from that which it analyses. It itself is clearly (see Tom Woods) an outgrowth of the Western European Christian tradition. That's why for eg. Hinduism has yoga, and why it never could have lead by itself to scientific materialism - for good and ill.
      Yes Christianity has incarnation, Spirit in Nature, the sacredness of the body etc as a deep concept. Yet the fruits of the West don't instantiate the case that this is a deep value, at least enough for it to be held and contained, whilst other parts of the tradition countered it. The divided house indeed. JBP instantiates this himself, by not attending Church "because of the lying pastors". The West itself instantiates this division via the disembodied consciousness ideal of transhumanism.
      Put it this way more simply - why are most SJWs post Christian Whites? As irrational as what they say is, that is too coherent a pattern to ignore what their existence points towards.

  • @MagnumOpusYT
    @MagnumOpusYT Před 6 lety +73

    Amazing. I subscribed as I thought the adoption of the principles Peterson purports would be powerful for mens work and self development as a whole. Blown away that you actually travelled over to meet the man. I'm in. - Midlands

    • @RebelWisdom
      @RebelWisdom  Před 6 lety +1

      Thank you! Would be great to have you join us at our Weekend Intensive in February - www.rebelwisdom.co.uk/events

    • @PeteAlfieBailey
      @PeteAlfieBailey Před 6 lety +2

      I'm in The Midlands too. I'd love to attend one of your events in the future.

    • @ljgarrison6910
      @ljgarrison6910 Před 6 lety +3

      I'm midlands also! Fancy a beer?

  • @SoundDesignerslabel
    @SoundDesignerslabel Před 5 lety +1

    I love this man!! (JP) Beautiful articulation of the human experience! Pure art!

  • @Persuit127
    @Persuit127 Před 3 lety +1

    The more I listen to this - I learn about myself more - thank you for bringing this speech in videl

  • @jeffrey5729
    @jeffrey5729 Před 6 lety +10

    Peterson is so on point, modern day/updated version of crazy wisdom....love this man

  • @firatsanliturk
    @firatsanliturk Před 5 lety +37

    "A person who knows he is a monster and integrates his shadow is dangerous in the sense that he has the potential to wreak havoc. If this is not done consciously, it is a bad thing". I see this all the time in military commanders, especially generals. Their job definition requires some amount of monstrosity and they integrate 'the fight' into their psyche so much so that they tend to attack themselves during peace times. An ordinary person - a journalist, a farmer, a housewife - rarely has the same amount of shadow integration and it's always an illuminating encounter when such two parties meet for a debate. I had seen a shocking "nagotiation talk" arranged by KFOR forces between a Serbian general who was a mass murderer and a school teacher who knew absolutely nothing about monsters and how to deal with them. In the end, the KFOR people forsake the villagers who were taken to a field and butchered to the last man. Those mass murderers are the ones who integrate the shadow unconciously, not integrating but becoming the monster as a result. Integrating the monster means having control on it to an extent that its uses are reserved for only the most dire; life or death kind of situations. A skill I wish that School teacher had when facing that genocidal maniac. ANYONE can integrate the shadow with enough effort but it comes more naturally to some - military people, law enforcement, criminals, politicians, etc. - while the ordiary masses lack even the awareness for the necessity of doing so. The shadow is not always anger or aggression mind you, it can be any one or more of the cardinal sins. I find mine to be sloth rather than anger for instance. My shadow is lazy af and I am doing my best these days to integrate and passify it.

    • @kaylynnwatson3314
      @kaylynnwatson3314 Před 4 lety +6

      I was a drug addict and I thank God for it because it helped me to understand that Shadow and integrate it. I still have alot to do but I've started at least.

    • @mikieknight6607
      @mikieknight6607 Před 4 lety +3

      In times of peace the warrior turns on himself. I forgot who said that

    • @asselabilseitova6138
      @asselabilseitova6138 Před 4 lety

      My shadow is lazy af too 😂
      How do practice its integration?

    • @monyb9456
      @monyb9456 Před 4 lety +1

      The shadow you describe is a fear of your own mortality.

    • @patrickmcdonough7008
      @patrickmcdonough7008 Před 4 lety

      Absolutely! czcams.com/video/50bJ2pyTE78/video.html

  • @kddk8584
    @kddk8584 Před 5 lety +1

    Excellent interview. Thank you and thank you Dr Peterson.

  • @brightphoebus
    @brightphoebus Před 3 lety +1

    I really like that closing sentiment, to go find out how much good you can do in the world, through wisdom. It's very empowering. It takes the power the catholic church took away through things like confession, and you can only reach the divine through us, and puts it squarely back into our center as individuals.

  • @captainradio5894
    @captainradio5894 Před 6 lety +4

    can't wait for part 2

  • @ManInTheBigHat
    @ManInTheBigHat Před 6 lety +48

    Always with the green sweater. I want one. When is the JP clothing line coming out?

    • @tristanteotcteo
      @tristanteotcteo Před 5 lety +4

      Let me know when it does. Leaving my comment here.

    • @elsoil3387
      @elsoil3387 Před 4 lety

      @@tristanteotcteo www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/2320154-lobster-hierarchy

  • @lokisfriend
    @lokisfriend Před 5 lety

    Peterson makes so much sense to me, I have never listened to a speaker like him. He conveys the message in such a way that it is not only easy to understand but allows you to grasp the deeper meaning that he is conveying which makes you delve further in.

  • @jillianglazar1358
    @jillianglazar1358 Před 4 lety

    What a great interview with Jordan Peterson! Thank you JP, your words are very helpful.

  • @yahwings7813
    @yahwings7813 Před 5 lety +5

    22:33 I feel Peterson is referencing Handy here
    ““I hope if dogs take over the world, and they choose a king, they don't just go by size, because I bet there are some Chihuahuas with some good ideas.” - Jack Handy”
    And in all seriousness, I like that someone is trying to pin him down on the subject of Mysticism. I think he’s Jung at heart.

    • @mikieknight6607
      @mikieknight6607 Před 4 lety +2

      When I was a kid there was a house on our block that we thought was haunted. We always heard screams coming from that house and the people that went in never came back out. Later on we found out that was just a muderer's house. -Jack Handy

    • @allagreta9990
      @allagreta9990 Před 3 lety

      Democracy what

  • @TheRadicalModerate
    @TheRadicalModerate Před 5 lety +3

    It's nice to hear a perspective that inspires us to be better, to do better. There is to much of a "Why Bother" out there these days.

  • @CrazyLinguiniLegs
    @CrazyLinguiniLegs Před 5 lety +1

    This is by far my favorite Jordan Peterson interview.

  • @keepitreal477
    @keepitreal477 Před 5 lety

    I am blown away by the eye opening revelations I received by listening to this video. Thank you

  • @wurmholewizrdree3475
    @wurmholewizrdree3475 Před 6 lety +4

    fantastic. lt's the sun in the pyramid. The I. What a great man and an brilliant interview . thanks for the upload .

  • @hogey74
    @hogey74 Před 5 lety +6

    44 year old Australian here. Peterson reminds me of when the Simpsons came out... it was funny but also just a relief to know other people had my sense of humor and outlook. Peterson goes too far in some regards, especially in his support of hard-heads like Ben Shapiro, but overall it's a relief and a pleasure to see his work and hear his talks online. I've been on quite a journey in recent years and much of what I have had to accept and realize neatly gibes with Peterson's thoughts. Good stuff.
    On Polarization, plenty of people I would otherwise agree with have a quite disappointing attitude to Peterson. Yes he does support views that go beyond sensible, but anyone who is taking this shit seriously is bound to. I shun polarized people now and focus on what is right rather than who is right. Peterson is right about a lot of stuff and it's often stuff no one is saying. He is actually a bridge between divided camps.

    • @TheVeek192
      @TheVeek192 Před 3 lety

      Interesting how you "shun polarized people" but also reveal that YOU are polarized. "Peterson goes too far?" According to you, obviously. But the statement reveals that YOU are thinking of yourself as one who knows how things SHOULD be. That's polarized.

  • @jamesr633
    @jamesr633 Před 3 lety +1

    I've only just found jordan peterson and he's help my mental health out no end .

  • @whitneymacdonald4396
    @whitneymacdonald4396 Před rokem +2

    This is absolutely remarkable. What I can say to anyone who is serious about exploring the questions posed here is: read Rudolf Steiner. Steiner was a clairvoyant who endeavored to make a scientific exploration of psychic/mystical experiences, basically trying to put a name to things experienced by shamans and gurus (among others) and make them accessible to the Western rational mind. I'd recommend starting with Theosophy, then try to tackle Esoteric Science. Not easy reading but worth the effort in my opinion. I think Jordan Peterson would find his work highly enlightening and inspiring.

  • @TheHarrisonScott
    @TheHarrisonScott Před 6 lety +3

    Respect.

  • @southernscientist5439
    @southernscientist5439 Před 5 lety +23

    good times produce weak men, weak men produce hard times, hard times produce strong men, strong men produce good times

  • @thegreenlantern9709
    @thegreenlantern9709 Před 6 lety +2

    I've seen too much of JP., how could I not see this great interview!
    This has enriched me with a ton of new meaning, thanks for uploading.

  • @angelcandelaria6728
    @angelcandelaria6728 Před 2 lety

    What a great interview! Thank you for covering these topics.

  • @noelj62
    @noelj62 Před 6 lety +4

    I think, it's true what Dr. Peterson said about being hardened when we get integrated; the childish view of the world if no longer keeps us from seeing the world as it really is.
    On the subject of harmony in music concerts, I'll give the example of the Eagle's California Hotel (MTV unplugged) in 1994. I'm impressed by the harmony between the crowd cheering , clapping, and band members playing. I even prefer this version to the studio release.

    • @UrbanKizBeast
      @UrbanKizBeast Před 6 lety +1

      Paul NJ watched it. Good rendition. They feel at home and look content.

  • @bobbyjr9370
    @bobbyjr9370 Před 5 lety +4

    i would love to hear dr petersons thoughts on why it is so dangerous to be alone in one's life the cause and effects and how to fix loneliness😒

  • @Joefest99
    @Joefest99 Před 6 lety +1

    That was one of the best things I've ever heard! A life changer!

  • @sarahstocks9828
    @sarahstocks9828 Před 3 lety

    Fantastic. Fascinating. This ones on repeat.....

  • @claudiaaquino7238
    @claudiaaquino7238 Před 5 lety +4

    He makes me realize my life....

  • @arden7428
    @arden7428 Před 5 lety +11

    "Implicit potential for havoc" = one humble bad ass

  • @chefcraigorrell9057
    @chefcraigorrell9057 Před 4 lety

    I am a huge JP fan and have watch tons of his videos, and this is probably one of the best. Well done!

  • @plantmandanreimer5570
    @plantmandanreimer5570 Před 5 lety +1

    he looks way younger than he should compared to now, great man and busy doing good work! THis was such a great interview and relaxed conversation. thanks Rebel wisdom!! keep it up.

  • @RobSinclaire
    @RobSinclaire Před 6 lety +43

    "In my Father's House there are many Mansions; I go there to prepare a place for Thee" (Jesus)

    • @clarkkent3730
      @clarkkent3730 Před 5 lety +15

      that word "mansions" in the Greek can also mean "dimensions"

    • @josephsonoftheuniverse5541
      @josephsonoftheuniverse5541 Před 5 lety

      Sinclair

    • @arch-aidecontracting5016
      @arch-aidecontracting5016 Před 5 lety +4

      @Clark Kent if you like that statement you "should" read the entire bible. i did. but i personally recommend you read the short "new testament (300 pages) part" ! you might be blown away what's in there, because many times the 'world' only learns about the arguably, "extremely," controversial old testament teachings ( and those are often de-contextualized, to make things even worse! ). Before i read the new testament i would have been inclined to your articulation of the idea of 'dimensions'. After reading i would be more like, "hey, who turned the light on?! I am suddenly seeing many, many, many, rooms and many, many, many dimensions all together now!

    • @domcisco6591
      @domcisco6591 Před 5 lety

      Love it.

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth Před 4 lety +1

      A story of 1 person written about in 4 versions of the same 1 chapter...think about that, most people only know about Jesus from one chapter of a book, the gospel story, which is repeated in 4 different ways.

  • @robrick9361
    @robrick9361 Před 6 lety +43

    JBP needs to star in his own version of Mr Rodgers.
    I can see him walking into a house singing about post-modernism and religious symbolism as he puts on a sweater.
    He can have a puppet he calls the great fool.
    A train which goes of a cliff and into a labor camp.
    "It's a beautiful day to destroy the world, a beautiful day to remove oppression. Would you please die? Could you please die?"

  • @felixliveoak4929
    @felixliveoak4929 Před 4 lety

    This is the hands down the best and most meaningful lecture I have ever watched. Jordan Peterson in a nutshell.

  • @GraceAlone614
    @GraceAlone614 Před 3 lety +1

    I look back at my childhood and I thank God every day that I made it to 18. My parents were a horrible dynamic. My mom was authoritarian, manipulative, mean. My dad was well...he was very submissive and weak-minded. They prided themselves in punishing me for everything I did wrong, while not praising or appreciating the good things that I did. They were also very hypocritical as they would always tell me to always be myself, but then scold me the second I do just that. Oh, and then there was my sister...let's just say she's the mini-me version of my mom.
    And Jordan Peterson is right. I did "get my revenge" in a sense. The second I turned 18 I walked out the door and never looked back. I'm now 26 and happily married and fathering a child.