Roger Federer vs Rafa Nadal in Switzerland! | Basel 2015 Final Extended Highlights
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This was the beginning of Federer 's domination of Rafa in the last leg of their rivalry.He beat Rafa here, Melbourne,Sunshine Double,Shanghai ...still their H2H ended at 24 16 in Rafa's favour.
just like nadal has a better h2h becouse most of their matches were played on clay, federer has a better last leg h2h becouse most were played on hard and grass. People tend to think about Nadal's dominance on their rivalry but its always been this way (obviously, federer was less dominant on grass and hard than nadal was on clay)
@@angelosbardellaits also. mainly cuz they played a bunch on hard in 2017 when federers backhand was peaking, but since then he hadnt played federer at all on hard so this domination was very skewed. If they played in like 2019 or 2020 or even 2018 on hard I am sure rafa would have won most of them. Except maybe indoor hard though it would still be competitive.
apart from the surfaces just mentioned
Nadal's foot speed and topspin are also in decline as well
he managed to stay competitive against other players by playing a bit more aggressively (hitting flatter and using more variety)
but the advantage over Federer wasn't what it used to be
Federer is far less troubled by flat and variety shots than topspins
@@angelosbardella Excuse me but Nadal before this match had more wins on hard and on clay against Federer so Federer started winning practically after this match while he was dominated by Nadal in previous years
Nadal had not beaten Fed since 2014 on hard/grass. 6-0 plus a W/O in that time. A couple of those 7 matches were beat downs. Stronger Fed backhand, holding the baseline was the key. If you can’t push Fed back off the line, he’s coming in on your short balls, better than anyone to ever play the game, and you’re going to lose.
Nothing is the same without you Roger 😫
despite 2015 being Nadal's worst year in terms of overall form and level of play / confidence, he actually played pretty decently in the post USO swing, unlike the rest of the year.. Beijing final, shanghai semifinal, basel final, paris quaterfinal, and ATP finals semifinal - for Nadal in that part of the season, those are pretty good results overall
Against Federer he always played the best he could at the time.
Similar to fed in 2013
@@masters.1000 yup
@@astonishingaparajit6785 Federer only played good against him in Cincy, the rest he was crap.
@@masters.1000 i meant fed's results. Basel final, paris and wtf semis.
08:42 Federer: "Fuck!"
damn didn't notice that
Including this match, Federer won 6 of their last 7 matches.
And the one he lost was on clay. Last Rafa victory over him on hard court was AO 2014. Crazy
@@Lakers24bn they didnt play on hc in 2016,2018,2019,2020 and 2021. So its not that crazy
@@astonishingaparajit6785 but a lot in 2017 and nadal lost every encounter on Hard court
@@Max-yp1iw yes that's exactly what. 1 year cant change an entire 10-15 year narrative
24-16
03:40 and 06:11
Two amazing points I haven't seen very often in highlights so far.
They met each other on Grass (Federer's fav surface) just 4 times whereas they met 16 times on Clay (Nadal's fav surface). That certainly skews the H2H.
Fed was beginning to close the gap by winning 6 of their last 7 encounters before injuries forced him to call it a day.
You absolute deluded kid...Federer could never win a SINGLE US OPEN after Nadal/ Djokovic prime started. Lol so called Hard/Grass specialist. Nadal smashed Federer 3 times consecutively on HARD COURT AUSTRALIAN OPEN (2009,2012,2014). He even went 5 sets against federer on his favourite GRASS SURFACE WIMBLEDON SLAM (2007,2008) and eventually winning it two times in 2008 & 2010. (Federer weak era specialist could never win more than 1 French Open).
Before 2017... H2H of Nadal against Federer was 23-9. Lol absolute demolition.
Exactly; and the only win for Rafa was, who could've thought, on clay 😂
@@Luckyluckyluc You absolute deluded kid...Federer could never win a SINGLE US OPEN after Nadal/ Djokovic prime started. Lol so called Hard/Grass specialist.
Nadal smashed Federer 3 times consecutively on HARD COURT AUSTRALIAN OPEN (2009,2012,2014). He even went 5 sets against federer on his favourite GRASS SURFACE WIMBLEDON SLAM (2007,2008) and eventually winning it two times in 2008 & 2010. (Federer weak era specialist could never win more than 1 French Open).
Before 2017... H2H of Nadal against Federer was 23-9. Lol absolute demolition.
@@Luckyluckyluc What about Prime Federer's ass smashed by Baby Nadal in 2008-2009?
-Nadal Fucked Federer in Montecarlo 2008
-Nadal Fucked Federer in Hamburg 2008
-Nadal Fucked Roger Federer in French Open 2008
-Nadal Fucked Roger Federer in Wimbledon 2008
-Nadal Fucked Roger Federer in Australian Open 2009
Lol, This 3 match Grandslams fucking streak of Nadal given to Roger Federer is the biggest accomplishments in Tennis History (that too on 3 different Surfaces)
Bro of those 40 encounters 20 were on hard courts and 16 on clay and if you really think that h2h was so messed up than federer had the opportunity to make up for that margin in his hard court match ups with rafa in which he is slightly leading by 11-9.
Rafa beat Roger at a Wimbledon final but Roger is 6-0 in French open.
Rafa is also leading hard courts GS matches by 3-1. You should be happier that Roger didn't get to meet in USO because there Novak also couldn't do much damage to him otherwise h2h lead would have been greater than present.
a normal match for the big 3 but it is incredible for other
I have been waiting for this highlight for years thank you so much for finally getting it up
Three of them are just unbeatable and truly legends..
Now that's what I call a great tennis match, every point fought over brilliantly by both.
Love that raw 'F-bomb from the Fed 8:42
haha yeah i loved that!
So great
Nostalgia!
What a quality of a match 👏👏
The coolest player of all time
Federer 2015 was out of this world. Problem was Djokovic was out of out of this world. Pardon my french
5:04
"Well he's got that sus now" 😳
Just look at the way he’s playing. GOAT.
Beautiful.
Nice vid 👍😁
Estos partidos Federer - Nadal son historia del tenis!
For Rafa to put such a fight on his worst surface (hard in-door court) vs Federer is a pretty good achievement in itself.
And at his worst year.
@@jameswalker6864 Even if it wasn't his worst year he still wouldn't have beaten him. Indoor hard court is notoriously known to be Rafa's worst surface - that's why he's never won the prestigious ATP Finals.
8:42 Did Federer said "fu*k this"? haha I bet those passing shots from Nadal were his nightmares :)
Did Federer cuss, that's like saying, did Jesus cuss in anger?
Nadal just simply could beat Federer anymore as soon as Fed changed racquets and shored up his backhand. He started taking the ball early against Nadal and it was over. Nadal couldn't blast him off the court or out serve him. Argue it all you want, but since the racquet change Federer was 7-1 and even that French was played in a tornado and much more suited for Nadals style. Had the weather been good, Federer could have won that as well. Again, you can try to argue what I'm saying, but it's just the reality.
So true
I remember 2015 Nadal. It was the worst time of his career. His Service and Backhand were in Wta classification. Frankly, I did not think that he could return after these periods, but as always, it surprised us.
he was not in WTA classification. Shut the hell up
Nadal has Federer 24-16 mainly because of how many times they played on clay. But also because of lack of matches they played once Fed began to overtake Nadal in 2017. Also if they played a lot more best of three on hardcourt Fed would have the h2h
No, Federer knew that he had no chances on clay and that is why he hid from Nadal in several clay tournaments and on outdoor hard courts the Spanish player is superior to the Swiss in the H2H.
They are both legends stop this comparison please and appreciate these two cause we will never watch players like them again ..
@@tano2775 They played on clay 16 times WTF are you talking about hiding
You absolute deluded kid...Federer could never win a SINGLE US OPEN after Nadal/ Djokovic prime started. Lol so called Hard/Grass specialist. Nadal smashed Federer 3 times consecutively on HARD COURT AUSTRALIAN OPEN (2009,2012,2014). He even went 5 sets against federer on his favourite GRASS SURFACE WIMBLEDON SLAM (2007,2008) and eventually winning it two times in 2008 & 2010. (Federer weak era specialist could never win more than 1 French Open).
Before 2017... H2H of Nadal against Federer was 23-9. Lol absolute demolition.
@@P_NamanGupta If Rafa made more finals at Wimbledon instead of getting knocked out early by low ranked players it would look different for their h2h, also Rafa has not beaten Fed away from clay since 2014
In Nadal's worst period of his career (3 full years) they've only met once. While in one year span, Roger's worst ever, they've met 5 times.
If they had faced each other at least 10 times between 2014-16, Federer would be up in the H2H by some margin.
FACTS. Not only that, if they had just met more often indoors or on grass in general.
If If if doesn't exist
Yeah, this is the point
Yep. Both players met on clay far too much and what you mentioned. That skews the head to head and does not tell the entire story.
@@jacobschmidt2709 That's why H2H is always circumstantial and can't be taken into account when you make comparisons. Without even mentioning the age gap.
Tennis players don't play a fixed amount of matches in the same venues per year.
Yes
10:45 Shapo fanboying 😏
Unleashed the Beast mode on upload the god mode on attack with Brutal force Helicopter forehand and the fly squatter Backhand and volley .
And use the Knife 🔪🔪 slice uppercut
Вот это настоящий финал Великих!
Shame it was not Rafa's year as it was not the next one, but he still showed his character. I would love to see them both at their best here.👍👍👍
If all their meetings where on indoor hardcourts I think the head to head would be more like, 30/10 in Rogers favour taking in to consideration form and injury..
💯
If *
Did you know that tennis is mostly played outdoors, right?
😆😄😁
@@tano2775 Your point? If grasscourts and indoor courts had been more abundant, Federer easily wins the head to head.
@@jacobschmidt2709 Did you know that grass is the most expensive surface to maintain, right?
😆😄😁
The curse was broken after this match
2015 was a great year for Federer
Played wimby and us open finals
Won Cincinnati against Djokovic
Won Basel against Nadal
DWA STYLE - DWA ŚWIATY - SPÓR TRWA - O CO CHODZI? - CZY KLASYCZNY FEDER CZY BEYSBOLOWY NADAL, DJOKOVIĆ? - POWIEM TYLKO AMAZING MATCH
I don't this gets talked enough. Federer used a more old school racket that gave more precision but less power on backhand. That was fine during the Era of fast courts. As courts got slower, he struggled with the power and spin on backhand until he made the switch finally in 2013-2014. The matchups started skewing better in Fed's favor.
But his forehand wasn’t as good and it hurt against Djokovic. Imagine having small racket against Djokovic for forehand but bigger racket for backhand but worse forehand against Nadal in his older years? Lol
@@dewman7477 He should have used smaller vs Nole and bigger vs Na
Какой прекрасный и крутой теннис и них обоих.Сейчас так играет только Новак Джокович
You can see two distinct phases in Federer career where his movement declined, first I think was when he sustained an ankle injury at the end of 2005 (his game against Agassi in the ao 2005 qf I think was the peak of his athleticism) and the second was after his knee injury in 2016.
It’s amazing how nimble he is on his feet here at the age of 34.
GOATS
Boy did Fed need this match. This was Fed turning the corner dealing with his Nadal demons and the emergence of that Neo Backhand vs. Nadal for the remaining of his career. He still couldn't overcome him on clay, but he owned him from then on on every other surface.
Quite right, but Federer was never scared of Nadal om hard courts, especially not on indoor hard courts. He always focused on himself and left the Nadal vs Federer hype to the others and just played the way he could eventhough he had a bad winning record against Nadal.
@@YesSirPhil I disagree. Nadal owned residence in Fed's head, even on hard courts, even in the 2nd set of this match, until around this point in their careers. Fed eventually decided to go for broke, unleashed that wicked x-court backhand, it went in, Fed's confidence rose, and he wound up with a more respectable HTH record.
@@Sifo_Dyas RF had a 4:1 indoor hardcourt lead over Nadal up to this match. He never felt owned and had enough trust in his abilities to beat Nadal. Clearly Nadal was Federer's toughest opponent and Federer only now slowly found the final recipe.
@@YesSirPhil Fed owned Nadal on hard court. No question. Two things can be true at the same time. After Wimbledon '08 and AO '09, Nadal owned permanent residence in Fed's head, EVEN on hardcourt, even in this Basel match that Fed wound up winning. It was after AO '17 that Nadal's space in Fed's head was relegated to a tiny closet. What a spectacular Sunshine Double in '17.
Only one player with a one-handed backhand managed deal with Nadal on clay and that is Thiem
Miss you Roger
wow
Serve- Federer
Forehand - slightly Federer
Backhand - Nadal
Volleying -federer
Fitness- slightly Nadal
Mental toughness - Nadal
You forgot slice, overhead, and dropshot which go to Federer
@@initialize21 Yes with slice and dropshot for sure. But Nadal's overhead is basically second to none maybe only Sampras had a better overhead
@@Joseph-be3tv there’s a website that actually breaks down the top overheads of all time. Believe it or not, Tsonga had, at least statistically, the best overhead ever. Federer I believe was second, and Nadal was several places below. Federer indeed has a better overhead than Nadal
One of the few fast courts where Federers game is hard to beat.
Insightful comment.
I miss Jason Goodall commentary :(
He's on Tennis Channel and ESPN all of the time.
@@roter13 sorry I didn't know. I was watching highlights on tennis tv only and didn't hear his voice recently
I love Rafa’s clothes here.
Wonder how Roger feels looking at these comments, especially since he’s missed already!!!
Roger will come back one day, his tennis is not done yet- it's just scar tissue from Wimbledon 2019.
The faster the court the more Federer prevailed and the slower ones Nadal dominated. Federer’s the best ball striker there’s ever been. Nadal’s (and Djokovic) superior athleticism paired with the slower courts allowed them to get the better of Federer in the late part of his career. Miami 2005, Hamburg 2007 & Roland Garros 2011 were examples of him overcoming slow surfaces with superior play.
He said FUCK in English hoping the Swiss crowd who speaks French/German wouldn't notice...
That first fed break point was clearly out...
TENNIS BEAUTY RAFA😍😍😍🤩🤩🤩♥️♥️♥️🔥🔥🔥💪💪💪🙂✌️
8:41 What did Roger say? 😂
he got a little lucky here...but after 2ö17 AO final he pretty much dominated Nadal everywhere except for at RG
Yes he started to have Nadal's number, too bad they didn't play more times in this period because Fed would have evened up their h2h
More like after 2014
@@initialize21 Exactly, Rafa has not beaten Fed away from clay since 2014
4:10 That same backhand proved effective against Rafa in 2017.
It's just that it was more evident than ever before since Federer used it more often and rather aggressively, taking time away from Rafa.
Yep, there are shots and strategies from Fed in this match that form sort of an early prototype for success over Rafa, which would come into full bloom in another year and a half.
@@hiwayman981 yes not just the BH, also, and probably the most important was the loopy balls when Fed in defence, managed to turn into offence quite often.
Another thing taking the BH early, hence held the baseline from both wings even if shanked here and there, in other words was more aggressive all the time.
And lastly the confidence this win gave Fed and playing big points better.
No, Nadal became a fraction slower and he paid dearly for that against Federer.
Also, Federer strategically skipped RG 2017 and RG 2018 to avoid facing Rafa. Not to mention, he chiked against Delpo at the US Open 2017 ans against Tsitsipas at the AO 2019, when Nadal was waiting to demolish him.
Federer didn't face Nadal on hard courts in 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021 all of them years where Nadal was the overwhelming favorite over him.
Honestly despite neither of these guys being at the best of their abilities (although Fed was pretty close) this was a really good match. It's basically the opposite of Cincy 2013 where Nadal had a good year, Fed had an awful year but that match in particular still ended up being quite high quality.
If Rafa didn't decline in speed the Head 2 Head would have been something like 30-10!
Algo
Rafa is insane. To go to Fed's home turf and put up a show.
The audience is so gracious that they are cheering the guest as well as their favorite hero.
Hey French people, look at this. This is how you behave
If andre agassi had a serve like sampras or ivanisevic he would have won 34 grandslams.
This is coincidentally the change of racquet by federer,
Why are the highlights only showing Federer winning points? I don't get it. It makes me feel like Rafa won ZERO points.
Because Federer is better and more people like him over Nadal
@@initialize21 How mature!
Not only. You must have not been paying attention.
Pa ovo je pravi pornić za Fedal fanove.
There are many matches in which Rafa avoided Novak and Roger on hards....some prime examples are:-
1) 2012 Miami SF walkover against murray( Djokovic was waiting him in the final but he avoided him bcoz he already lost 7 consecutive finals to him
2) 2018 AO QF retired midmatch against Cilic to avoid Federer in final ( he knew he has no chance beating Federer after what Federer did to him in 2017 on hards
3) 2018 US open semis retired against Delpotro to avoid Djokovic in final
4) 2019 Indian wells withdraw before his match against Fed again 😂 in semis
5) 2019 paris masters sf again walkover against Shapovalov bcoz Djokovic was waiting for him in the finals ( just Claydal things)
6) 2022 Wimbledon SF walkover against Kyrgios bcoz Djokovic was waiting him in finals again.
U got to be a moron to believe rafa wantedly withdrew to avoid them😂
@@astonishingaparajit6785 he did it ....the stats say everything....tell me the last time Rafa beat Novak on hards??? ok tell me the last time he won a set against Novak on hards?? Rafa has skipped so many hardcourt and grasscourt slams and tournaments as injury excuses to avoid Djokovic.The man never misses any clay tournaments 😂😂.2012 wins RG and then loses to Rosol then withdrew completely from the american hardcourt swing and missed AO 2013.again wins 2014 RG ....gets beaten by kid Kyrgios in Wimbledon and withdrew again from entire North American hardcourt swing.Why he is never INJURED on clay???? why Rafa never retired midmatch on clay????
Indian Wells 2006. Cincinnati 2015. US Open 2008.
@@AmanGupta-bb6ov what stats novak lost his first 9 matches to rafa on clay too lol... They have played only 2 hard matches last 6 years...
Lol he retirrd midmatch 2016 rg and evn injured won this year rg beating novak on 9 match 22 set winning streak😂😂
Lol hc only produces more injuries than clay lol... Now u talking uso hc swing in 2012,2014 lol that was rafa misfortune. He has won morr uso swing titles than novak😂😂
If you think this way sorry to say you are wrong!
Nadal has not beaten Djokovic on hards since 2013 and not beaten Federer on hards since 2014.That was a long time ago 😂😂.... still some claydal fans claim he can play on all surfaces.
Rafa vs medvedev on hard since 2019 uso swing - 5-1
Djokovic vs medvedev on hard 3-3 and a midmatch retirement including 2 beatdowns
No. of uso since 2013😂
Rafa: 3
Fedole:2
Uso from 2009
Rafa : 4
Fed:0😂😂😂
Rafa from 2008 to 2014 nonclay slams(big3 prime)
Fed: 4-0( 3-0 at AO!)
Djoko: 2-3(2-1 at USO)
@@astonishingaparajit6785 Lol i am not talking about Rafa vs Medvedev 🤭🤭🤭.....its all about matchups ......Rafa knows he has very slim chances vs Goatovic on hard so he avoids him deliberately.Goatovic completely owns him on hard period 😂😂.out of 27 matches on hard Djokovic has won 20 not only that he has beaten Claydal 16 times in straight sets on hards.Whereas Nole Goatovic gives tough time to Claydal on clay.2021 RG semi ....he completely outplayed Nadal and Rafatards like u again pulled out injury card.Whenever ur idol loses its bcoz he is Injured 😂
@@AmanGupta-bb6ov lol djokovic has a matchup advantage vs rafa. Despite that rafa is 20-8 on clay , 7-20 on hcs pretty even. Djoko is lucky af on clay too like playing rafa in 2015 rg, 2020-22 rgs when he was vulnerable but avoiding him in 2017-19 losing to thiem haha.
And if djok is so great on hard recently y he struggles with medddy who rafa beats ha.
Last time fed beat nadal on clay was in 2009
@@adriantroickic8477 I would still rather be better on 2/3 surfaces than just 1!
Rafa has been defeated by an injury-forced retired Roger.
They sure carry a lot of baggage as they're making their way to the court.
"It ain't a firecracker until Fedal go toe to toe against each other"
Glad nadal lost
자기네 집 앞 테니스장에 사람들 불러다놓고 갖다패누 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Jesus loves you
Only Djoko can beat Federer on any surface and hence his claim over GOAT is way stronger than Roger & Rafa.
LMAO just no. Djokovic is 6 years younger and only took advantage of the H2H in like 2016. Even now their H2H is insignificant. Peak Federer is better than Djokovic pretty much everywhere, AND I say this as a Serbian!
Djoker is 7 years younger to Federer, but still their h2h is 27-24 in novak's favour. Almost 50% win for Roger. If djoker had been same age as fed ,their H2H would have been 40-20 in fed's favour and needless to say if djoker had been 6-7 years senior to Federer their H2H would have been 30-2 in Federer's favour ( you all fellows would have understood only 32 matches both would have played,as djoker would have retired by age 30 years, seeing the enormous talent and domination of Roger Federer)
@@initialize21 agreed. But you mustn't forget the mental part. I think the main reason why ND beat RF in so many tight matches was NDs unbelievable mental strength. If RF won matches like eg USO SF 2010, 2011 USO F 2015 and Wimbledon F 2014, 2015 AND 2019 stats and GOAT discussions would look much differentely.
@@maximesteinebrunner9941 It's not only that- it's divine intervention fs.
This match proves 3 things:
First: From this match Federer figured out how to play Nadal on fast surfaces by improving the way he hit his backhand. In 2017 he did this tactic of half-volley, flattening out his backhand which some of his fanboys call NEO. I just call it flatter backhand. Had Federer did this kind of play since the start of his rivalry with Nadal, he would do way better in their prior matchups.
Second: The claim of his fans how Fed from 2017 would have handled Djokovic better than he did in 2015 is also a myth. Fed did get a lot of confidence from winning AO 2017, by beating his trickiest opponent in the final, but that does not reflect how he would do against Djokovic whatsoever. Djokovic is not Nadal, it takes a much different approach to play and win against him. But credit to Fed, he did improve against Nadal, and that is still admirable. His top-level though wasn't that much different than what he showed at 2015 Wimbledon and Us Open. Perhaps slightly better. It just appears that he improved so much because he started beating Nadal on fast courts. Djokovic, i think, if he remained healthy, would still beat Fed on both AO and Wimby in 2017. Perhaps with slightly more difficulty than he did in their 2015 slam encounters.
Third: Djokovic is a better player than Nadal and Federer, just to point that out to all Fedal fans. Cheers. 😎😂🖖
Djokovic is not better than fedal at their best im sorry. If an out of prime fed beats peak novak in 2011 in FOUR and beats near peak nole in wimbledon in FOUR in 2012, it shows you that prime fed is better than prime nole. Prime fed had a bigger forehand, much better movement, was hungrier (to beat pete’s record), more shotmaking, more stamina, etc. a 34 year old fed beat peak novak three times in 2015 in STRAIGHTS. Just shows you how it wouldve played out if it was prime fed. Also novak barely beats a grandpa fed at slams so i have no doubt that prime fed would beat him more often than not. As for nadal, you never saw him play when he could actually move. Playing nadal on hardcourt post 2013 is much different than pre. Go watch AO 2009 nadal or 2008 olympics nadal or even 2010 uso nadal. The 2008 wimbledon nadal (or even 2010) would take out novak on grass trust me. Movement is a big thing in tennis.
@@goderer2057 I apsolutelly disagree with you fanboy. And i really dont have patience to debate you, since your delusion runs deep. But let me put it this way, 2011 was the highest peak in tennis history. Literally ripped Fedal a new ahole, rect them so bad that it wasnt even a competition. Djokovic lost to Fed at FO yes, but after beating him 3 times before that match, and one more time after that. He was at a 43 match winning streak. Destroyed Weakdal 6 time in a row that year, and it wasnt even close. Weakdal was only losing to Djokovic that year, and was more consistent than he was one year prior in 2010, so your excuse how he could barely walk, you can tell that bs to someone who didnt follow tennis from a long time ago. Sorry, but since 2011 Djokovic literally was sh**ing on Fed in their h2h, and was dominating Weakdal outside of clay, and even on clay he was beating Weakdal way more than the other way arround. Weakdal didnt win a match on hc since 2013. In 2011 Fed was still in his prime 29 and Nadal at his peak 25. So suck it and cry more baby boy 😥🤣
@21P096_NamanGupta Keep being delisional 🖖🤣
@21P096_NamanGupta And one more thing. I love how your weak Fedal losers are so powerless against Djokovic, that you fangirls always must discredit Djokovic and diminish him to boost your favorites. That is a major sign of weakness. If and when i want to show of the player i support, like Djokovic for example, i mention his strength and i dont look for excuses how he lost this and that, just point out what he has won and that is enough to prove he is above his competition. You cant do that because Djokovic took most of Fed's records so you can only cry 😥😂. Keep being weak.
About your second point. Fed always figured it out how to play well against Djoko from the beginning of theirs carreers. If Rog would had face Nole in 2014-2015 with 2017 confidence, at least have won IW14, WB14 and USO15. No doubt about it.
Second and third best in history! Amazing players!
Id say two #1best players lol
You are insulting Pete Sampras. Pete was better than Federer if you normalize for competition and consider the 2004-07 weak era
@@Aksriv100 mate you are the one that got upset over a comment
You guys need to stop comparing. Let's just be glad, that we have witnessed the best 3 players in tennis history. It's remarkable and we should be proud and admire their unreal skills. Of course, I have a favorite from these 3, but I don't like these fights about the GOAT. Let's just enjoy the two of them that are still active.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Rafa has the most Grandslams so is the best in history, no other metric to go by. Doesn't matter who you support, facts are facts.