What is the top storyline of the Denver Nuggets’ offseason? | DNVR Nuggets Podcast
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- The Denver Nuggets are at a bit of a crossroads heading into this offseason. There will be less continuity than previous years and more uncertainty. KCP appears to be gone. Nikola Jokic might play for Serbia at the Olympics. Jamal Murray needs to get in the best shape of his life. Michael Porter Jr. needs to stay healthy again. What else will be an emerging storyline?
Start - 0:00
Pacer's late collapse - 3:00
JJ Redick as the next LA Head Coach? - 10:15
Is KCP back? - 21:00
Do the Nuggets make a BIG move? - 30:00
Jokic playing for Serbia? - 39:00
Jamal playing for Canada? - 42:50
What to do with the young guys - 46:00
bet365 top 5 basketball names - 51:50
Superchats - 56:30
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The only basketball content im watching after the loss, im still heartbroken
Us too. We suffer together!
heartbroken is perfect description and it hurts even more, knowing they were the one, just weren't bothered enough to put in required effort, DAL gonna sweep those fools...if only we played defense for more than game and a half
I am rooting for Luka, Jok's best budy in NBA, and the Mavs.
The thing is that for most of us in Serbia of course we started cheering for Nuggets because of Jokic. But somehow Denver started to get under our skin.😂 I can speak for myself I know that I will keep following Nuggets long after Jokic stops playing basketball. 🎉🎉🎉❤❤
I'm happy to cheer for Dallas whenever they're not playing Denver too.
Thank you. Love from Denver 💛
I hope so! That’s been one of the best parts of this whole ride
The love goes both ways. As a Coloradan, I am now really inspired to visit Serbia and other Balkan and Eastern European countries.
I don't think "under our skin" is the expression you think it is
I DONT WANNA LOSE KCP 😔
This is a great show. These are my three favorite people on the show. And I'm a Wolves 🐺
They made the Wolves/Nuggets series even more fun for me to watch, just hearing a different perspective.
See ya all next year. You are probably 1.5 players away from being back in the WCF next season. Joker isn't going anywhere. He's still the most dominant player in the league.
I wish I could’ve moved on as quick as Adam from the season ending 😂
Gratitude. Just focus on them winning last year! Such a great experience & it can never be taken away.
@@RS-ol8or I know I know I really should! Just such a heartbreaking way to go out this year 😭
I just watched Minnesota get bopped. Big difference guarding Luka compared to Jamal.
Its one game so we have to be careful about overreactions, but it does seem Minnesota had a better personnel against Denver than against Dallas. Guarding both Luka and Irving at the same time is a daunting task, and just goes to show you how important it is to have two true all stars in the team (at least).
I just want to root for Jokic to beat USA
Thought I was the only one 😂
Keep dreaming. USA gonna whoop everyone.
Every single game Jokić plays for Nuggets for me is like playing for 🇷🇸, he represents the country on the biggest stage. He needs to look after his body any mind. The national team is run by old-fashioned 'breaking body and soul' tyrant coach, and the Olympic tournament will be cut throat, unpleasant experience. Hopefully, his wife and daughter will prevail, spending good quality time with them.
Nije isto, ne izjednačavaj. Koliko god da volim i gledam Nagetse, kad igra za Srbiju to je drugi osećaj.
I like Deni Avidja from Washington as a SF but not ready to give up on MPJ. Andre Drummond as a back up center, and Alex Caruso to replace KCP if he goes (but I love KCP and wish he could stay). We really need to develop the back up PG spot with Pickett or go to the market for that too.
I love Deandre Jordan but we could really use a more dynamic big off the bench and Jokic can get more rest come playoff time
I would love for KCP to stay. But I can't be mad at him for getting more money elsewhere. Lol
@@Attrohar same here especially at his age I wouldn’t blame him.
Great show tonight... Really recpect you guys. So sorry for the way season ended. Hope to see you soon in Serbia. Belgrade and Denver Brothers forever 🇺🇸❤️🇷🇸
@@fredharvey2720I assume in the 1910s or 1940s? 😃
@@fredharvey2720 I am sorry to hear that but Germany occupied Serbia twice in the last century so there was a lot of bad things on both sides...
@@fredharvey2720 I did not say that. Well, the feeling is mutual... When my Country twice invade yours we will talk again... I guess you hate Jokić and must live in Denver... That sucks 😉
DNVR is cool
I'm incredibly still sad about that game 7 loss... You shouldn't lose game 7 at home... On top of that, Reggie Jackson was not worth a single cent of his contract... he showed that in the playoffs and most of the regular season.. He's past his NBA usefulness, has been for a while... Really hope Booth and Malone can figure out who to bring in like they did the 22-23 season.. I have confidence in that.
5 comments...people are hurting. Great show guys.
Our boys clearly ran out things to talk about on that last segment there 😂😂
Yeah that was brutal and not funny at all.
Watching from Bangkok, positive vibe after a terrible loss.
I had to turn off all things Nuggets for a while. I watched the ECF and WCF. I'm still amazed how bad the East looks. The Mavs are peaking at the right moment. I have been binge watching all of your content since the loss now that I can look at things objectively with less emotion. Still sucks, and I am still mad at how the Nuggets played in the playoffs, but I have some hope for next year. I think there are some big questions in KCP, MPJ and the lack of a functional bench.
Imagine jj and lebron after a loss(or only jj) treating every postgame as a podcast, taking qurstions, answering them with players, jj/lebron mostly weighing in when it pertains to them
And or having a postgame podcast with the team
Theorerically, there is no problem for Jokić to play on Olympics regarding "physical overload". It is actually 3 (if you don't pass group) to maximum 6 games (if you get to finals), 40 minutes by FIBA rules, where Jokić would actually play no more than 25 minutes per game (not even a whole series...) because, in comparison to Denver Nuggets, team Serbia doesn't lack size, it is actually very big crowd on center position, and Milutinov, when Jokić is not arround, gives Jokić's numbers without problem.
Even the whole team is structured to play with Milutinov in the manner that you can just pick Milutinov out, and put Jokić in, because Milutinov was "directed" to play that way (which he usually don't do, he is more clasical under rimm center) specially because of time when Jokić would join, and coach Pešić is the one that was forcing that structure.
And yes, he is old school and he will demand Jokić to join a month earlier, go through 2 weeks of conditional camp and play 2-3 weaks friendly preparation games prior to Olympic start... And Pešić already shown the door to some big names when they were not ready to submit to his expectations. And there you can see possible colission, because it is a big part of summer that preparation period + 2 weaks Olympics, and Jokić might bargain for his time...
But for Jokić I think Pešić would have to compromize. If eventually Jokić say he was willing to participate, but that he couldn't find common language with Pešić, Pešić would probably be fired from cannon with live explosive under feet next second...
P. S. But if he from some reason decide to skip this one also, well, it will not be good for him, not good at all...
Imo the nuggets should not go for the first seed and experiment much more in the regular season, for example trying to run some plays for mpj, we cant win everything by just running plays around jokic, its tiring him out and murray isnt consistent enough
User was supposed to be the plan this year but Malone killed our starters to only flame out and lose 3 games at home lol. Gonna be an interesting offseason.
Javon Freeman-Liberty should be the top 1
We can't loose KCP he's too valuable on the perimeter with his defence.
I know you guys are upset with the Nuggets playoff results but they had a great season as far as defending champs go in this era of the NBA. The Warriors ended the season last year as a sixth seed as a defending champ. We tied the record with the 1 seed this year. Like come on. Be a little more positive on the Nuggets than being so upset with them. They will learn from this and they will be back next season fighting hard. They fight harder as the hunters anyway then as the hunted.
I agree. You have to exercise hindsight. Denver Nuggets are not good enough to win back-to-back at the moment thats all there is to it no more no less. Losing to 2/3 best team in the nba in close 7th game is great lesson to learn. You know what you need to fix so use that to your advantage next season.
Exactly! And when you revisit how every defending champ did their following season after winning the championship since the 17-18 warriors, we had the best follow up year since the Raptors. Yeah there was some bad games and yeah Malone could've made some different decisions, him and Booth could've been more on the same page as far as how the season was going to go but it was still a great season as far as defending champs go. Like you said stuff to learn from and grow from.
I loved the top 5
this might be an unpopular opinion but i cant get on board with kcp leaving the perfect fit and winning situation for him for a "bag". the dude has made a ton of money in his career, he's a millionare multiple times over, its not like he's bruce brown looking for his first real payday, also the nuggets would probably pony up something like 17 million dollars which is a ton of money! im sure he could make more elsewhere but what happened to teams just sticking together to run it back for another ring? it just strange to me that its a foregone conclusion that any player on a winning team who's contract is up and can make more money is just gonna leave. has it always been this way? i dont think so but maybe im wrong. i just wish sticking together as a team and wanting to win more meant something to these guys. we've talked about how its tough to have a dynasty nowadays because of the leagues parity but it also seems to be tough cause nobody is willing to take less to stay together and win like brady did with the patriots, even jokic like bro you seem to be so unselfish and just care about winning but at the same time one of the biggest contracts in nba history is tying up a ton of our cap space, im not saying he doesnt deserve it but if winning matters more than anything else and you're nikola jokic then why not take 15 million less in order for the team to retain its best players besides you?
I dont like to see KSP and MPJ leaving :( there are kids at bench they can trade
Unfortunately they have no value because they didn’t play 🤷🏾♂️
Stfu .. he played 100 games for Nuggets this year and you feel some type of way if he decides to play 7-8 games for his home country. You're taking this man for granted.
Definitely need scoring to go with defence. If KCP leaves
For me it make sense to trade MPJ for depth...
Everyone says this but has no trade ideas lol. Everything is good in theory.
Denver fans & media: "Yhy is everyone talking about LeBron and the Lakers!?"
You tune in to their podcast and guess what, they're talking about LeBron, his son, the Lakers and their coaches lol
Never seen a Lakers podcast discussing the Nuggets affairs lol
Do not do Minnesota 2 bigs thing, they will not win ring, we tryed that in national team and we lost easy.
We, in our Serbia team beside Jok we have Milutinov best center in Europe and we never play them together. Denver's big problem is not the center( you need 1 backup to rest Jokic, maybe you should try to get Milutinov from Olimpyacos), big problem is missing 1 more guy that can handle the ball, that can defend, and that can shoot(Bogi from Atlanta is guy for you, Atlanta is not using him right, he can go to rim very easy. He has great vision also, great skills and good worker on the court. For pg spot try also to draft Jovic kid that brought Serbia u20 team gold, new Jason Kid type of player.
I know I am high on Serbia players, but for good reason. For example look on last world cup semi final game against Kannada, Aleksa Avramovic puted SGA in lockdown, he stole 3 balls for him and we all know how great handle SGA has.
Easy, you want to win rings, bring more Serbian players 😂😂😂
Hey I love Serbia players now after we got Jokic so I agree get more! 🇷🇸 🇷🇸 🇷🇸 lol
Denver's already known for being a Superstar killer franchise. That's why we're not a free agent destination. We either trade our assets to support Jokic better and we will find better players than MPJ, KCP, Jamal and AG or Jokic goes to Sixers, OKC or Lakers etc. Maybe even Celtics.
Just imagine jokic playing for the 76ers i would cry as a nugget fan but it would be freaking crazy to watch jokic and embiid on the same team like wtf are you doing against two 7 footers who can score from everywhere
Jokić is not leaving the Nuggets even if he has to go through the Dirk Nowitzki treatment, have his championship team dismantled.
lol Jokic will never leave Denver! You put that in stone. Jamal will only leave if we trade him.
If KCP leaves and Braun has to start, what is our bench then?
The whole point of letting our starters rest and letting our bench players develop it makes no sense without kcp. Not enough talent. The young players are all on the wrong timeline.
These young GIFs have barely played why do you think we have no talent. Malone didn’t play them yet I see comments from people like you that seems to be an insider. Stfu we need to develop these guys and that starts with getting minutes. Also how would kcp leaving impact that? That would give the young guys more playing time you make no sense at all.
CB really needs to improve on offense if he is going to have to start. I think Strawther and PWat will take the next big steps. I’m not sold on Pickett personally. I think he is just kind of too slow for Nuggets ball but what do I know. And we need a back up big man asap
Once again Pickett has barely played! You are the absolute worst type of “fan” .
as weird as it sounds, if we can get cp3 on a cheaper deal we can afford that amongst a backup like goga bitadze is all i think we need to be frontrunners next year
Cp3's already signed
Yes but surely they won’t take on his absurd contract next season..
I really don't think the Wolves are that great, Mavs exposed them, I think it's going to be the Mavs and Celtics in the Finals which tells me if Denver had more depth they'd beat the Wolves in 6. As far as next season goes, this is a chance for the Nuggos to reload, as I think it's time for Braun to enter the starting lineup, although he's such a great energy player off the bench though. We can either keep him in that 6th man position, or look to let KCP walk and grab another stud for the starting lineup.
The Nuggets exposed them too. Nugs just ran out of energy to finish the Wolves
We would’ve beat them if we didn’t run out of gas. I also won’t overreact to one game. You have to punish Dallas in the paint with some post ups and Minnesota can’t do that only Denver can. Hope Mavs win it all if not wolves.
@@astriddececco3005 I agree they did especially in games 3-5 and game 7. Like you said the Nuggos was just out of energy to finish them off. This is why Denver needed a bench to give Jokic and those starters more rest.
@@Juice-ig3jz I agree bro, that was the main problem for the Nuggos, I actually think they could've finished them off in 5 or 6 games. Denver just needed a bench to give Jokic and the starters more rest. Mavs would've been harder for the Nuggos because they got more of a complete team. Wolves seem to be opportunist, they only get you when you don't have it.
0:47 I AM NOT COMFORTABLY IN THE OFFSEASON!!! I DONT WANT TO BE IN THE OFFSEASON!!! I WANT TO BE IN THE WCF WATCHING JOKIC VERSUS LUKA... NOOOOOOOO I DONT WANNA LISTEN TO THIS.... but i still do... damn it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jokić absolutely has to play for Serbia, no excuses anymore.
adam lets be honest pickett isnt an nba player.
1:48 Maybe this one gets him angry... he goes to Jamal and tells him... get your ass ih shape for the next one or im gonna be trading your ass to Charlotte for Vasa Micic and shit load of picks!!!
one thing i'll say is, playing for the serbian national basketball team is not an obligation by any means. if a player doesn't view it as an honour, we don't want him there anyway. it's not a paid job, i know americans view international tournaments differently than some other countries globally but here, it's an experience and a lifelong dream for many players to represent the country in different sports. i know vogt used the word obligation in the sense that the feeling is jokić *has* to do it, but he really doesn't. he only has to if he feels like he should show up for his home country. if he doesn't feel it, we don't want him there either. but that's where the national legacy goes down the drain then. his individual one will always be there, but the national one can't, and if he doesn't want it, then there's no issue there. no legend of ours should feel forced to play. the legends are the ones who show up no matter what and put all their blood, sweat and tears into representing the country every 2-4 years without fail, no matter how tired they are or not, because they're all obviously going to be tired every end of season anyway. we've had injured guys give it their all, simanić even lost his kidney playing for us in that last world cup. those guys would do anything for the country. it's why bogdanović has the legacy he does in serbia which baffles some nba viewers. so yeah, point is, he's not obligated to do anything. if he prioritizes the money and the nba, that's his choice. but obviously he can't have a national legacy then, and if he's ok with that, there is no conversation to be had and serbs shouldn't be looked down upon for feeling the way they do. they're not saying he's not great, he just wouldn't be *the* national great - he would be *a* great and a denver great.
Blah blah yes we know Serbia would murder for a gold medal. You his don’t care if Jokic breaks his leg because it means more to you. Unfortunately for y’all Serbia isn’t going to give Jok 400million to bounce a ball so he has to be smart. Didn’t need the paragraphs to write that lol
@@Juice-ig3jzIt's not all about the money for Nikola.
36/12/6 10 pts in OT and a win. People have to shut the hell up about Tatum.
Tatum needs to not shrink in the finals and have a full good series not a couple of games that his dick riders post his stats too to get off on.
Booth will indeed find a trade partner- maybe even a 3 way trade - for MPJ. Bookmark this.
The Magic for one are rumored to look hard at washed Klay. 🤣 Mike would be a huge upgrade over that guy.
Has Booth shown any ability to find solid trades that make the team better? What has he done that is maximizing Joker’s prime?
@@PeterBoye-vr3oy it seems they went the cheaper route last year; inexpensive vets, but that didn’t work out well. Plus they (mostly Malone) refused to play the rookies, thus the starters got overworked all year & it showed in the playoffs. Major mistake.
IMO Booth has to make better free agency moves; they can’t do the same thing and expect different results; what’s the definition of insanity again? That’s where I disagree with the dnvr guys. They can’t just “run it back” for those reasons.
The Kroenkes are gonna look at the payroll & then MIke’s production and be WTF…..😬 I’d be shocked if he’s on the roster next year; it’s silly so many fans view him like a superstar.
Luka Serb pay back, they beat the fake wolves.
JJ Redick just doesn't have a coach's vibe.
Trade MPJ, Jamal and AG for better combination of size, defense and shooting. I'm starting to notice that dnvr is too addicted to shooting percentages. KCP is horrible against good defense. He's not worth a big pay when we already have limited resources. He didn't even give Ant much trouble either. He's easily replaceable.
EIther we bring in some all stars or Jokic should ask for a trade. He shouldn't waste his talents on Denver if they can't put a winning dogs around him.
If KCP leaves they need to get Grayson Allen or Jalen Suggs or Josh Hart
U still have 🐺? I said u bias u don't see... Denver lose in 6 next year to 🐺 and in 5 or 6 to mavs... But sure we were so close 😉😉😉😉🤯🤣
The Nuggets should trade for Clint Capela and put Jokic at power forward
For those who think Jokic at pf doesn't work, I understand that playing power forward next to Nurkic was terrible but I believe it was awful because the fit was awful. Defensively neither Jokic nor Nurkic was a good defender and on offense their games had no sinchrony or sinergy as Nurkic could not be a creator for Jokic (being a limited passer) nor Jokic's could create for Nurkic who was limited as a finisher.
But Jokic next to Kenneth Faried or Gordon has worked well as they have complementary skillsets (athletic play finishers who can catch lobs or attack the rim).
Clint Capela would therefore be the perfect frontcourt partner with Jokic because a) he is a perfect lob threat, dunker and play finisher b) his rim protection would exponentially elevate the Nuggets' ceiling and make Jokic's life easier and c) his 10 rebounds a game would be like a safety blanket on defense as either Gordon of Porter Jr are unreliable rebounders when going up against some of the best frontcourt players like AD or Gobert/Towns.
I think that this lineup would be unbeatable against the Timberwolves.
Jamal (combo guard/scorer)
Braun ( point of attack defender/slasher)
Gordon (defensive point forward)
Jokic (offensive engine of team)
Capela (rim protector, second best rebounder, lob threat).
Jokic played as a 4 for the Serbian NT and it was a disaster
Yes it was a disaster do not do that. We, in our Serbia team beside Jok we have Milutinov best center in Europe and we never play them together. Denver's big problem is not the center( you need 1 backup to rest Jokic, maybe you should try to get Milutinov from Olimpyacos), big problem is missing 1 more guy that can handle the ball, that can defend, and that can shoot(Bogi from Atlanta is guy for you, Atlanta is not using him right, he can go to rim very easy. He has great vision also, great skills and good worker on the court. For pg spot try also to draft Jovic, kid that brought Serbia u20 team gold, new Jason Kid type of player.
Wtf are you on 😂
Braun is a no for the starting lineup.
I’ll miss KCP but honestly he didn’t shoot great this year.
KCP siyanara. Braun is a better defender.
stop with the exhausted stuff, they get 2 month holiday anyway...soccer players literarily get like 14 days off, if they play international competitions...complete nonsense = 1. 9. - 18. 9. 2022, dates of last international competition Jokic played, 13.6. 2023 date Nuggets won the chip...there's no direct correlation. Exhaustion exist, but it's only in form of motivation burn out. It's a complex thing, based on trillion different factors, so playing international can be both positive/negative/neutral.
Football players play once, twice per week.
I said it...but no...if we win against 🐺 we would be champions...no!!!!! Mavs would beat us! We are not ssame like last year. U to close and bias!!! Wake up! My god wolfs lose in 5. Maybe 6
We shouldn't call Joker anymore. He is a paycheck player. Nula od coveka.
Ako si mu rekao 🤡