4K RECORDING ON THE PANASONIC GX85
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- In the last video I did a full review on the stills capabilities of the Panasonic GX85. This video is dedicated to exploring the 4K footage and see how it compares to other similar cameras.
I've compared it to the Sony a6300 as well as the Sony RX100 Mk IV. How does it look? You be the judge.
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I seriously hated the way the Sony rendered the skin tones. It made you look almost dead and blue while the Panasonic had a much more natural color.
Thanks for the review. I own the A6300 and the GX85. On a recent vacation I choose to take the GX85 over the Sony, due to over heating. I shot 4k video all day with the GX85 and did not have any over heating issues. I wish I could say the same for the A6300. The GX85 also has a great lens selection and 5 axis in body stabilization that works well. As you said the camera is sorely missing a mic input jack and the built in microphones need some improvement. But even with the mic issue, the GX85 really meets my needs. It is my first MFT camera and I really enjoy using it. I would not compare it against cameras that are not in the same class or a higher price points.
I agree with the previous comment. I actually like the Panasonic low light rendering better then the Sony.
Aww!! Thank you so much for the shoutout Ted! Your kind words mean a lot to me - you rock!! Great review too - agree with what you said. Thanks for sharing! 😊
+Chris Prouse no Chris YOU rock!
If I might be a little bold and suggest you can disable the constant AF. Also I wonder whether switching simply to 1080 resolution might actually produce a better image for the interior talk-to-camera? For a start I think the closer cropped 4k focus would go away and the effective focus length would go back to wider angle but perhaps I'm wrong.
The comparison to the a6300 and the primary usage for the GX85 for vlogging, where external mic, articulating screen, skin tone rendering, and unwavering focus, brings out the negative points about the GX85, those points are appreciated. For myself, where landscape and street photography are the primary use, the attributes of handling and small form factor yield results that are more than satisfactory. Focusing issues are negated in some circumstances by the use of the AF Hold button, while low light stills, although requiring a tripod for best results using long exposure, is an acceptable inconvenience. Lastly, the current price, and the price I paid for the body, kit lens, and accessories, is $599 - down $200. I think the argument for the GX85 still holds, and maybe even more so, now.
Hey Ted, I really like your vids. I own gx80 (UK) This cam is excellent and at under£500 it really shakes things up. Don't rate dynamic range at all but it is workable, mics are dreadful but are superb in noisy situations. I film lots of club nights and it never distorts! I have Zoom for interviews. We grew up with massive investments in video and this is £500... The stabilisation is amazing, as is no anti alias filter, it's compact form factor makes it ideal run and gun. I don't like a few things on it, but really... £500 is no money film makers rejoice! When was last time you watched a movie and knew what cam they used? There maybe better options but you'll need to double your money, this really is okay and if you got your mitts on it 3 Years ago you would be a Don! A wealthy Don... 4K, MFT, 5 Axis and tiny! Awesome cam full stop! Do you need more? Yes, the GH5 is amazing but who on youtube will notice? Make your money first, this will do till then:)
Hi, that's a great rebuttle. I was about teo buy the GX80, but now considering the Sony a6000. any input this way? I'm in the UK also, but want Stills and Video. 4k Ideally, but upscaled 1080 will do if it's sharp enough.
@@paulknowles9727 hey @Paul Knowles....which cam you eventually purchased? G85 or Sony a6000? I am making the decision these days :) would be great to hear from someone who already has one of them
@@Pietttro78 This was a long time ago. I actually boght the Fuji xt-2.....dont buy the G85.....buy the sony. it is still superior to many cameras and your work will be awesome. However, i also had the fuji xt-20 and it's far better for video as it has touchscreen also.
So, Fuji xt-20 or A6000. A6000 is better auto tracking....if you don't need it, Fuji is cheaper and will give you amazing results for less money.
I feel like you reviewed the pana as a vlogging camera. But why vlog with a fivemotion IS camera and make stills video. I think that gx85 is more suitable as a videocamera for scenery or other outside activities where you will use music as sound. That is where I would use it for. I dont own the gx85 but comparing it with others to buy.
This camera is amazing for the price other comparable cams are over 1k
That's true, GX85 is for filmmakers/videographers but not for vloggers.
Whatever you say, but I see: The GX85 color (skintone) is better than the Sony (that is bluish !!!).
I totally agree. I think the color is better on thr GX85, plus if you put the focus in manual mode, there won't be a drifting in focus.
You hit this review spot on! All the info I needed was given by you. My needs are as follows:
I am a film maker/secondary photographer. My primary setup is a Sony AX100 that I send out clean 4K HDMI to Atomos Shogun 4K HDR.
I was looking at this for secondary/pickup shots. You are right. Too many trade offs.
I honestly think the Panasonic FZ300 actually checks all my needs far better than this camera and for less. Except one. I want the option to clean 4K HDMI out. That is the one trade off. Where this camera actually has more than one! You absolutely are right. There always seems to be a trade off of some kind in this camera class. If the FZ300 had had clean 4K out, it would have been a small filmmaker killer! Of course low light is always a problem on these cheaper cameras. But you can work around that to some degree. By lighting your spaces, fudging your camera settings some. But man, why can’t these camera makers get us the perfect solutions in one unit! BTW, I just subbed!
When are they gonna give us a clean 4K out without heat issues? For sub $1K?
Love the tests that you have done and shown, they justify your comments.
Nice of you to pick up that the kit lens is not wide enough for shooting handheld as for a Vlog. I think you do need to buy a wider lens for that kind of work.
We clearly saw some of that focus seeking you mentioned when you shoot indoor in low light.
Great review Ted!
It's frustrating how camera companies are only putting all their best tech in the bigger bodies.. it's understandable from a business standpoint, but still frustrating for us consumers. I really really want a smaller size camera to combine all the things I want: high quality EVF, IBIS, good quality 4K, reliable continuous auto-focus, LOG profiles, mic/headphone jack, touchscreen, no overheating, minimal rolling shutter... The GH5 is probably going to combine most of these things but I wish they would put all this tech in a smaller rangefinder style body like the GX8. So please Sony and Panasonic, give us these things in the A6300 and GX8 successor!
The Dead Immortal I'm willing to pay a premium price for a camera as I described. I'm not asking them to give me all those features for the price of a GX85. I'll gladly pay around 2000 for a small camera that can give me all I want. There's still room above that price for them to sell camera's with full frame or medium format sensors.
Here's your answer: "but I wish they would put all this tech in a smaller rangefinder style body like the GX8". They can't fit everything into a smaller body. Things like microphone and headphone jacks, and their associated wiring - take up room. Most of what you've asked for is on the GX8 - save LOG profiles and a headphone jack. Autofocus is nice, but I assume that since you're on a photography site, you can focus manually - even remotely using the Panasonic smartphone app touch-to-focus.
simianinc I'm pretty sure Panasonic is able to fit in a headphone jack on a GX8 style body. Add to that LOG profiles, IBIS & shutter from the GX85, better continuous auto-focus with phase detection on the sensor (like A6300) and. I'll be a happy camper. I don't want to fiddle around with manual focus or an app on my phone. I want to shoot videos where I can just trust the continuous auto-focus to work properly and select my focus points with the touchscreen.
Log profiles are not worth the effort IMO. I have seen so many comparisons between color corrected log video from Sony and GH4's and guess what, after color correction they look identical to the GX85 (the Sony's actually looks worse). I've done some grading with the Panasonic files and they actually hold up quite well.Now if you're actually shooting something serious enough to do real hard grading where you are really pushing the files then either you have the wrong camera for the job or get a 4K external recorder.
***** I disagree, Sony's SLOG2 and Cine gamma's are very useful, just like V-Log on the GH4. With the GX85 the dynamic range in standard picture profiles is very limited, a log profile would help protect highlights from getting so easily blown out.
There are some good selfie mirrors with shoe mounts for microphones and lights for vloggers. They let you see the screen, albeit in reverse.
I shoot Panasonic for stills and don't do video, but I found this review very interesting and informative. Thanks!
If I remember correctly, you also said you were doing a review of the Panasonic G7 and would love to know what you think of that compared to the GX85.
The Sony looks grayish compared to the GX85 on my RMBPro. The Sony probably does everything else better, definitly the focus, but not the color.
doing the M43! so glad to see this, I would love to do more review like this again. When you thought m43 was long gone, behold!
Only the European version (GX80) has the 29 minute limit. The North American version will shoot 4K until either the battery dies or the card is full.
That's correct, there is no time limit.
Thank you very much for the very true to life review and for the comparision with Sony cameras ! You added the extra arguments which convinced me that I don't need a GX85, even as a second camera (I already have Sony A6500). So, I will buy a RX 100V. Congratulations again for your thorough review!
You might want to try the GX8. It doesn't have a 30 min recording limit (it does break up the files into separate 4gb sections though), doesn't overheat in my experience, has a flat profile, great battery life, has mic input (though it's a 2.5mm port so it'll need an adapter), slightly cheaper than GH4 and an articulating screen. Also unlike the a6300 I have, it's not picky about the memory card. I'd be happy to let you borrow it for a few weeks for a review if you'd like.
Don't really see most of the image issues you outline with the GX80. It sounds like your expectations were a little unrealistic. The second indoor image is absolutely fine to me. A crop sensor is never going to give the low light performance of a larger sensor camera like the Sony. The GH5 is excellent in low light but it's in a different league. Remember the price-point for this camera, it's a consumer-orientated, affordable compact. You also need to set the GX80 to it's lowest contrast setting before making the dynamic range comparison. Again it's never going to hold up to a Sony with it's larger sensor and you have to accept the compromise of using an M43 camera.
Indeed, most cameras are a trade off and a compromise, and in the case of vlogging, which is your preferred reason you were "excited" over this camera, the let down in focusing, skin tone rendering, and lack of microphone jack would put this choice at a disadvantage. But following your referral to Chris's channel, and seeing the GX85 in the outdoors on a gimbal, perhaps shows where the camera can shine. With the dual stabilization and small form factor, this camera can also see be seen as a weapon of choice for the street photographer.
I agree, the Gx85 looked better than the sony in low light. Made you look younger. *not saying you're old.
1. The color in your room shot looked much better on the GX85 than the Sony. You conclusion is baffling.2. Why are you using autofocus? You are hardly moving front to back, the dof is relatively wide, so just lock the focus (AF lock button). In nothing you shot would autofocus be the appropriate technique. Autofocus is helpful in getting focus, then it should be locked for almost any shot on any video camera.3. I did a test comparing the RX100 IV and the GX85 at ISO 6400. I saw little difference. In yours, the color of the Sony is all washed out.4. Your outdoor shots were overexposed - the camera does this, so you have to ride the ev a lot.5. The RX100 IV has slightly better resolution in 4K. I see little difference in DR, however, and the RX100 IV colors in Standard are too blue, and generally unappealing. This is well known. Slog 2 is a joke - way too noisy, and 8-bit for lots of color grading just results in banding. It is worthless in this camera. HFR modes are great.6. On non-stabilized wide-angle lens, the IBIS really shines. Using unstabilized (no OIS) primes handheld at 50mm (35mm equivalent) or less is what this camera is about.I liked your discussion, if not all you conclusions.
Sony autofocus is much better and I agreed with a lot of his points such as the lack of profiles, mic jack, etc. But I thought he looked much better, healthier in gx85. He looked more hydrated with better glow - for lack of a better description. He looked desaturated and more grayish/cold in the Sony. Sony exposure and colors totally aged him and made him look more anemic in comparison.
I think the Panasonic video looks better as well.
The colors of Sony-Cams also appear unnatural to me. However, I had the same problem with my Panasonic, when I switched from Canon. I think, this is not a question of right or wrong, it depends mainly on what type of image-pressing and color-style you are used to.
The GX85 is - without any doubt - one of the best mirrorless cameras within it's price range. However, it's not meant to be a serious video tool. People who need a MFT-camera for 4k-videoproduction, should wait for a GH5 or the G8.
I do not understand the "serious video tool" point. No "serious" videographer uses camera audio, so the mic-in issue is moot. Otherwise, the GX85 has a better sensor and processor than the GH4, which is considered a "serious video tool" and IBIS, allowing handheld video with a variety of primes. The quality of the video produced by the camera will be no better on the G8 unless there is a leap up to UHD 60p. Or are you referring to the lack of V-log and the really useless Cine-D and Cine-V. What is unserious?
This just shows the silliness of labeling things "professional" (or better, "perfectly professional") or "serious." Sorry, my standards for professional and serious in audio is to never use the cheap internal mic preamp for audio (XLR connections do not make you serious, though they look serious). Never. There is no camera with mic preamps that meet my standards as a professional audio engineer. So there. You are not perfectly professional and I am. :) Yes, Cine D/V is useless. No amount of grading gets you good skin tones. I have a GH4. You sound like someone who has never actually used these profiles. I agree that crushing all settings to -5 is bad practice. I know "professionals" who do that, however. And they are dead serious. Log profiles and 8-bit video is generally a bad idea too (yes, I have used Slog 2 on Sony's). If you are really "serious" you use the 10-bit 4:2:2 HDMI out from the GH4 into an external recorder, using ProRes 422. Or you shoot RAW (I have done that too (BMPCC)).That's serious. But this categorization is all pretentious claptrap. What matters is the video results. And what's the opposite of "serious" anyway - a joker? Anyone who does handheld video without a gimbal is a clown? Or uses camera mics? Or edits highly-compressed 8-bit video? Or posts here?
This is really helpful Ted, it's great to get your insight into this camera. As I've just started vlogging, I'm just using what I already had (a GoPro I bought a few years ago). Eventually though, I'd like to upgrade to a camera that will give me better video and sound quality, this information has certainly helped me thanks!
Disagree. The Panasonic looks better than the Sony.
Yes and it's cheaper too, but unfortunately for autofocus, Sony is still the champion when it comes to quick product reviews.
Great video! From what I remember, there was a fair bit of backlash when GX8 came out and it was quite a bit bigger than the GX7. The GX7 was a wonderfully balanced package - such a joy to use. I myself had been waiting for the GX8 for 4K video specifically, and I too decided against buying it because of the size. I bought the GX7 for its combination of size and features, and I expected the replacement to be a similar size and layout. The other problem with the GX8 was the shutter shock issue, which at the time was unresolved (I don't know if it is now?).
From what I remember, the GX85 was Panasonic's (hasty) response to that backlash, and the lower specs is obviously to differentiate it from the GX8. I use the GX8 now mostly for travel photography, along with the Sony RX100-V, but I actually carry the GX7 for photography, since it has more hard controls and is easier to work with.
Sony has several products that overheat. The issues are well known, and they have done nothing about it. That makes them radioactive for me. You mentioned that you set white balance to a specific temperature. I have had better results with my Panasonic G6 by balancing manually to a grey card. That might get rid of the green cast in your studio footage.
GX85 is designed for a lower price point. If it had none of the shortcomings you mentioned, there would be no reason to get its higher priced sibling (GH5). I myself am eagerly waiting for that camera. I had budgeted for the Canon 5D4 earlier for 4k but seeing that 4k was simply an afterthought in the 5D4, I am done with Canon as far as video is concerned.
As an artist I say the Lumix GX85 colors are far superior. I was interested in purchasing this camera but crap audio when using video mode is a deal breaker for me. Onward and upward.
what cam would u suggest in 2022 for that price?
Excellent review. Really helpful in my talking head camera search.
The sony makes you look dead to me, watching on a 27" 2k iMac.
I had the same thing. At times in the upperleft corner it says what he was filming with. When I looked I thought "Sony A6300 now!" but it was the GX85? Looked very good actually. Will look on my 4K monitor (LG) this evening though).
Same here, Macbook pro.
I see the same thing. Sony is rendering with a magenta colour cast. Panny looks better but is slightly on the green end. MacBook Pro here with Spyder colour corrected monitor.
quite! I kept thinking that the Pana made the colours and skin tone look better.
That's true, colors look better on the Panasonic. It could be the white balance, or the color profile though. Also, the sony has so much more detail! When you look side by side it looks like the Panasonic is out of focus...
You're a knowledgable dude, man! I like it! Kudos to you, and thanks for making me a tonload wiser!
HUGE shot in the dark on getting a response, I was curious between this and Sony ZV1, which camera do you prefer for taking videos, almost like vlogging, but honestly more in line with just good vacation videos to treasure for later and which may be better for concert videography? If you've given either a shot for that. Also, thanks SO MUCH for that audio setup video with the Rode/Zoom set up.
I would look at the Sony ZV-E10 it’s like the ZV1 but has interchangeable lenses also the ZV-E10 competes with the Sony a6400 so I would do some more research on the ZV-E10 it might be worth the extra money
Low light surprises me, I use two LX-100 for all my videos, at iso 1600, and they look very clean to me. Hunting is a problem, not to me, I disable cont. AF.
And no Mic input (grrrrrrrrrrrrr). And you are RIGHT: they ALL could make the perfect camera, they only have to fire their financial managers :-)
LX100 has a fast lens.
Thank you for letting us know about the audio issue
Nice review. Keep in mind that you’re using the kit lense. This lense is fine but it's definitely not designed for low light situation. If you want good low light, get the 25m olympus or sumilux lense. You will be blown away! :)
Quick question. Were you using the audio from the cameras in this video or external microphones?
Thanks for the education. It was clear to me. You make excellent points. What is the perfect $500 (or so) camera?
Funnily enough on my monitor I prefer the Lumix colors in the back to back comparisons - Sony looks quite magenta. But really impressed with the Sony's sharpness, definitely more detail, even with the RX100.
Still, has to be said, by the standards of 2-3 years ago, the quality we're getting from these cameras is pretty incredible! Just wait another 2-3 years and I can't imagine any of these drawbacks will still be an issue.
My gx85 does not have a record limit. However limited by battery power or memory card. You can make a flat profile for video you can grade.
as noted with other comments, contrary to your statement that the sony does better recording you in your house living room, actually the gx85 seems to do much better. Your skin tone is better, the shadowing on your face actually looks better closer to film like. Whereas the sony made your skin look pasty and shiny. Don't know which color is more real, but your shirt color is more aqua with the gx85 and more washed out blue with the sony. Perhaps the sony is more realistic and the gx85 is processing more, but it almost does the job for you so that you don't need have foundation make up, and post processing.
Ooo this is so awesome! Great stuff!
Nice review Ted. I would personally avoid it for the same reasons, the limited dynamic range and bad focusing.
I'm extremely happy with my RX100 mk IV. With it being a pocket sized camera, the S-log 2 and ability to shoot 250fps at close to 1080P, it's perfect for the run and gun style music video work I do for mostly hip hop artists.
Personally, I don't see smaller sensor sizes as being an issue at all, except in some low light situations. If you look at The Walking Dead, it is shot on 16mm film (excluding fx shots), and they're still able to tell the story just as well without relying on more extreme shallow depth of field style shots. With that 16mm film size not being far off the size of a 1" sensor.
Great review - always helpful thank you
Good review...I am curious to know that since the gx85 doesn't have a microphone port if you can possibly use the usb port with a headphone adapter to plug in an external mike
what about battery performance recording in 4k? thanks
You'd love the Fuji film simulations on the XT-2....hope you can review it soon.
Mic input and 180 degree screen swivel are musts now.
Good info on both the strengths and weakness of stills and video. thanks
Im been testing a lot, lately with a super takumar 50mm 1.4 and i can tell you that using only in body IS it works like a charm!
The only thing for now that is really dissapointing is the AF with the kit lens with the constant focus hunting even with good light and the low dinamic range.
I used to have a specific configuration with the "style" on the A5000 changing contrast, sharpness, etc, to get the most flat profile possible. Any idea with this camera?
Great review! Confirming all that i've tested.
Cheers!!
So is there a way to improve the sound even though you cant connect any external microphone?
The a6300 looks a bit purple-ish in the studio section at around the 7-ish minute mark. Is this normal with the Sony?
Hey Ted, please make a video about the works of Borut Peterlin. He is one of my personal favorite modern photographers and his works "5 am" "the Great Depression" and "Fairytales From Gorjanci" are some of my personal favorites.
GH1 was the breakthrough.
Ted, what is the perfect Vlogging camera in your opinion? The Sony RX-100/B ? Something you are going to set up in your room and get a great image and skin tone.
Great video. Any plans for a Panasonic G85 4k recording in the near future?
Great review. my goodness this was detailed.
I watched your friend Chris' video and I have to say it makes the auto focus on the gx85 look terrible. (I started a discussion on this over at dpreview.) it seems the consensus is that continuous autofocus is weak and doesn't lock onto the right thing , i.e. the background will be in focus when you're trying to do a handheld selfie shot. touch to focus and half-press shutter button may be better though, especially if employed before you start recording. any further thoughts on this? did it seem like her video missed focus alot to you?
Hi, I just got to your channel and so far, I love your reviews...You just go another subscriber...Could you please review the Panasonic G85 please? Thanks.
Ted, did you have the 12-32 lens on still? i wonder what the impact of a Panasonic 12-35 2.8 or a 25mm prime would have been on the sharpness and focus in the office video (as it was tripod shot 5 axis stabilisation wouldnt have been an issue) - the RX100 IV being a fixed lens has to put its 'best' glass on - it's all or nothing after all. Generally kit lenses as we all know (and the 12-32 isn't the worst kit lens) are not the sharpest tools in the box.
I also noticed that the focus grabbed onto your hand as you moved it forward not something I've normally noticed on face detection on Panasonic.
Thanks for two more excellent videos BTW.
Simon, Northampton, UK (it's about as hot here today as your park shots!)
If you want audio input (but weirdly, a 2.5mm jack), a full tilt screen and a better dynamic range go for the GX8. It has the most advanced m43 sensor, is 20MPx, but alas it came out before Panasonic IBIS worked with video, so IBIS is stills only. But I love the DR relative to, say the GH4 and presumably the GX85 which uses the older sensor.
I think the tilt screen on the GX85 is for those of us who didn't like the fact that Panasonic switched to an articulated screen for the GX8 (which until the GX85, was seens as the successor to the GX7). Trying to touch focus candid street photography on a screen that's articulated is a real pain, and not very discreet. If you've connected a cable release for, say, using a remote for landscape photography, the articulated screen gets in the way, and a tilt screen is better.
What would you say would be the best camera for a beginner😊 btw just wanted to say your a big inspiration to me
Sony a6300 has to capture a 6k video from a bigger sensor and then downsample it to 4k. Panasonic uses a smaller and less megapixel sensor. Probably that explains the overheating.
Thank you for this video
Useful, informative video. Like some others, I did prefer the look and colour from the GX85 over the Sony(which looked blueish and 'over sharpened'). Omitting the mic input is an unfortunate design omission, as including one would not have taken away from sales of other, higher priced Lumix cameras - they're bigger and heavier.
Overall, I think the GX80/85 is a fine 'compact' camera, very Leica M influenced, and maybe that is a clue to which company (who partner Panasonic) may have been considering selling in a rebadged model?
You can hack video profiles that the GH5 has now. It's pretty easy. From other CZcamsrs, they lock the focus on the subject instead of using the autofocus.
Nice video man.. Question: what picture profiles are on the GX85 ? Is there CineD/CineV ? What profile did you use ?
What SD card did you use to shoot 4k 100mbps video on GX85?
hoping the camera that comes out to replace the xt 10 has good video. the xt 10 is just as good as the xt 1 except smaller, which i like.
Reminding me that I need to upgrade my camera when I can afford it!
The only problem with low-light video with GX85 as far as I can see is the autofocus hunting. The skin tones and colours in general are just a tad warmer than the Sony's and to be honest look way more natural, Sony's look too damn cold. Also, I think you're being a little bit biased towards the Sony for some reason, because it's dynamic range at least in the aforementioned context is certainly worse than the Lumix's. Take a look at those lights to the right - they're looking blown out from the Sony, but retained from the Lumix.
Why do you add an artificial music to the videos? I want to hear how the camera records the noise of its parts and surrounding audio.
Had a feeling the Gx85 would be a let down for use as a vlogging video camera. I think the higher end GX8 model would be better all around, has full articulating screen, better view finder, has audio jack, and Cinelike V and D profiles. Cost is higher, and you will also want an OIS lens for stabilized 4k video.
I agree about the GX8, I don't know why Ted didn't review that instead. The GX80/85 are lower end models in the GX8x model lineup.
In Europe GX85 and A6300 are not in the same price bracket at all and X-T2 is completely out of sight form a GX85 POV...I like both his reviews a lot. But some things are strange to me. Overheating with Sony cams is a thing since NEX7 I believe. I truly dislike it a lot they do not fix it and keep bringing out (to my mind) disfunctional camera's.
the skin tones issue: did you check out the natural profile? a few folk even prefer that to the v-log profiles. can be made soft but doesn't boost noise in the same way at certain iso settings.
I know I'm a little late to the game, and forgive me if I missed it, but what type of mic did you use since the 85 inexplicably doesn't have a jack?
I would like to know as well. If it's not s simple fix this camera will be out for me since I want to use it to record video of my kids and such.
Hi Ted, I liked the video. I was wondering how you record audio, because I don't see a lapel mic on you. Thanks and keep up the good work :)
what do you recommended for CZcams video recording. sound is a dealbreakee for me. also don't have bigger bank ....
What mic did you use for the outside test?
In my opinion the Panasonic video is noticeably better. If audio is a big concern then external recording hardware is the preferred method. Your review seems a tad biased based on other reviews I've watched on this camera. I haven't purchased this camera, still in research mode for now. But, it's becoming the front runner based on the many reviews and comparisons I've performed.
Which one you got eventually? :)
Will you go back and try the G85 when it comes out? Sounds like it will fix your major issues!
Hello. I am new to photography and find your videos a great resource in learning and understanding the various aspects of taking decent pictures (without using the auto setting) what kind of camera would you recommend for a beginner like me to start with preferably in the slr range. Thank you
Ummm...The GX85 has a street price of $600 USD with the kit lens...it was never intended to be used by people concerned with logs and luts...IMHO it's one of the best in it's price range =^))
can anyone please explain. There's AFS and AFC for video. But there's also "Continuous AF" on/off in the menu. So even if you select AFS the camera will still do AFC if "Continuous AF" set to "On". Basically AFS/AFC selection is useless
WOW. I was about to order the GX80 (85 for you) until I noticed the Sony RX100 results.........Glad i held off. I am also considering the Sony A6000. This is my max budget range.
Now, it's 2020. The world is in chaos. Any new thoughts on a sub $500 camera for Video and stills? Thanks
I would like to see Your review of Olympus OMD EM 10 mark III... I like their cameras and I think You will like that one too
Hi Ted! Thanks for making all these great camera review videos. Thought it was hilarious in the stills video for this camera when you mentioned you were in fort worth - I am too! Crazy. Anyways, I am wondering if you have an opinion on the Canon Rebel T6i against this camera for videography. I am looking to shoot music-video / cinematic style videos of myself playing the drums in several different environments and lighting conditions, including places like abandoned warehouses, out in forested parks, and even at home in my garage. I plan to have my cameraman utilize a flexible tripod to assist with stabilization but it is still important to myself and my cameraman to have a stable image. What do you think would be the best option? If not either of those, our budget is preferably $850 and lower for the camera and a lense. Please suggest what you think the absolute best option would be. That'd be awesome! (All opinions welcome) Thanks Ted and anyone else in advance!
I know it's a old Video but the gx85 was way cheaper at this time. just get a faster lense.aside from that you compared M4/3 with Apsc in Low light..What do you expect.It's just your own taste.For my taste the A6300 footage looks way to cool and clinical.the Lumix looks more eye pleasing
I'm looking at the GX85 amongst others for video. At 6.22 you compare the Pana' with the Sony telling us how much better the Sony is: there's a massive difference? Where? What? I can see a difference and the Pana' looks better to me. The skin tones definitely look better, more natural on the Pana' to me. I'm looking at shadow detail, highlight detail, etc. I can't see anything better about the Sony at all? I'm not a Pana' fan I own nothing of theirs and think Sony are a great company but I'm baffled at least during the low light indoor scene at what's good about the Sony?
Hello! Cool video, thanks! Can this model power with phone power bank while shooting? (Sony can only charge battery via MicroUSB)
Great video and very helpful. All things considered except price, would you go with the A6300 or GX85 for both video and stills?
For self shoot can't you use the WiFi app to see a preview before hitting record?
The Lumix has a much better color pallete than Sony. Also the Sony is an aps-c sensor so it should be better in low light. Lets compare my Nikon Z6 to the Sony a6300. It would blow it out of the water. My point is not really an even comparison in my humble opinion. Use the micro 4/3 in its wheelhouse. I think it looks great recording. Again, IMHO. I've also seen some pretty phenomenal images from Micro 4/3 as well as video. What glass are you using? If its kit then there is your answer. Put some Pro glass on it and you'll see a big difference. That said I use my Nikon Z6 when I do video but I own the GX85 also and its a solid micro 4/3 camera overall for what it is.
I feel the sony might just have a better lens on, seems to isolate you more in the studio with better dof... the pana just looks messy with a tighter dof and softer overall image.
You said that 4k video gets 29 minutes. How about at 1080p? Does it continuously record until the battery runs out of juice/until the sd card is full?
Thank you for this video. -Cheers
I like my panasonic g7
I'm not a panasonic fan. But that footage in the studio looked like a movie. It was a little shadowy but you could throw Joe Pesci in there with a monologue and nobody would question it. The AF occasionally hunting the light in the background is common in many of these combo cameras. It was noticeable but not jarring like the fuji can be.
That Sony looked aweful though. You aged 30 years. Then got buried and dug up again. That was a horror show of skin colors. I've also seen sony turn people bright yellow. Sony autofocus is incredible, but IDK what to do with a camera that makes me choose between being a simsons character or a corpse.
Hi sir, a bit late to ask but will you recommend gx85 for video shooter over others mirrorless in the same price range right now. Your explanation very professional compare to the young boys out there, hope to give some thought.
Wait.. What's the crop factor in 4K ? Good thing I have a Metabones..
so, how do you record and sync the audio?
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please answer my question in detail.
Guys, how about the life battery when making video? How much time does it last in 4k or 1080p?