Myths About The Early 19th Century

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  • čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
  • Today we'll cover some myths that we have heard frequently over the years spoken as if they are true :O . If you wish to dispute any of these pleaseeee all that I ask is just Google them first! Most of these are well established as being myths now especially the closet tax.
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Komentáře • 489

  • @singdancelady23
    @singdancelady23 Před 2 lety +39

    As an AP History teacher, I approve of this message 100%! I love to tour period homes and so often hold my tongue when I hear these myths. My family now knows to ask me after the tour, “Okay, so what did they get wrong?” I recommend the book “Death by Petticoat” which goes over many of these myths. The lady was spot on when she said that we like to think our ancestors were stupid. It’s a sad superiority complex. C.S. Lewis called it ‘chronological snobbery.’

    • @Zhukovsghost
      @Zhukovsghost Před 2 lety

      Well they believed women shouldn’t vote and blacks were animals/property to be hunted if they escaped, and that disease was the result of immoral livings, so they were sort of stupid

  • @EarlyAmerican
    @EarlyAmerican  Před 3 lety +141

    Considering how much clothing I have a closet tax would force me out onto the streets.

    • @victorianidetch
      @victorianidetch Před 3 lety +9

      Me too. I am very emotionally attached to the clothes I wore in the 80's.

    • @ravenmaclennan3512
      @ravenmaclennan3512 Před 3 lety +1

      Love the history lesson, Ty!

    • @simday1396
      @simday1396 Před 3 lety

      I know that's right!

    • @ashwinigo1860
      @ashwinigo1860 Před 3 lety

      What happened the love story..... We waiting...

    • @ashwinigo1860
      @ashwinigo1860 Před 3 lety

      What happened the love story.... We waiting...... Justine s marriage.....

  • @ellicooper2323
    @ellicooper2323 Před 2 lety +82

    I can remember when my mother was pregnant with my brother and she had to walk down the hill for pails of water, (and back up again) we girls would stand on a stool beside the cast iron sink. Water was heated on the only stove, wood, in the kitchen. She would wash us, then wash the dishes, then herself. Last was the floor. All with the same two pails. She made toothpaste with salt and baking soda. Ugh. No wonder we seldom brushed our teeth. Of course we had little sugar so that would help. We girls had no heat in the bedroom so we would hang blankets in front of the wood stove and, when toasty, wrap it around us and run to the bedroom.
    It sounds like I’m either over 100 years old or quoting from a novel but I swear it’s all true. Ask my sister.

  • @christina3056
    @christina3056 Před 3 lety +74

    I'm English. In Britain, windows were taxed. If you visit, you can find old houses have window spaces bricked up to avoid paying window tax. Thank you for your wonderful videos! I really look forward to them 🤍

    • @beckygriggs7827
      @beckygriggs7827 Před 3 lety +2

      😯😯😯😯😯😯

    • @joeysausage3437
      @joeysausage3437 Před 2 lety +19

      The things they come up with to tax people.

    • @xlnuniex
      @xlnuniex Před 2 lety +3

      A tax on urine was imposed in Ancient Rome. Ancient Romans imposed a tax on urine, as they valued urine for its ammonia content, and found that it could be used to clean clothes and for whitening teeth. Emperor Vespasian taxed the sale of urine that was gathered at public restrooms to raise revenue.

    • @SR-iy4gg
      @SR-iy4gg Před 2 lety +2

      Windows were taxed in America during British rule too.

    • @HalloweenDecorating
      @HalloweenDecorating Před 2 lety

      I live in the US but I wonder if this is the reason the back of our house only has one window.

  • @HunterDriguez
    @HunterDriguez Před 2 lety +35

    Corsets were also basically bras in the 1860s. The silhouette was indeed more hourglass shaped but they were not uncomfortable, especially those for working women.

    • @tammyellison735
      @tammyellison735 Před 2 lety +15

      exactly, rarely were corsets tight-laced that is a big myth. To get that look padding was used rather than tight laces

    • @SR-iy4gg
      @SR-iy4gg Před 2 lety +1

      They would certainly have been more uncomfortable than wearing a bra. I've worn corsets and can tell you they aren't comfortable. Give me horrible heartburn.

    • @ThinWhiteAxe
      @ThinWhiteAxe Před 2 lety +5

      @@SR-iy4gg if it's giving you heartburn, you should get a better-fitting corset and/or don't lace it so tight

    • @melissajohnson6501
      @melissajohnson6501 Před 2 lety +8

      @@SR-iy4gg actually, a corset made for your body is very comfortable. It does have to go through a "seasoning" period, where it has to get warm and will mold to your body. The uncomfortable corsets aren't properly fitted nor are they properly seasoned.

    • @birdandcatlover5597
      @birdandcatlover5597 Před 2 lety

      Can confirm. Corsets are cozy. I’d wear mine more, except I like to do backbends and stuff at random. Most people wouldn’t be annoyed by them….I’m just fidgety and flexable

  • @vivianking8143
    @vivianking8143 Před 3 lety +355

    As for the bath routine, I wonder why they did not start with the baby, which would be more less likely to be so dirty and then proceed to the more dirty persons bathing last. The water would be cleaner for the dirtier ones, just my thought. This was informative and enjoyed. Thanks, In Joy

    • @leoscheibelhut940
      @leoscheibelhut940 Před 3 lety +91

      Just a guess but in the absence of disposable diapers and wipes, the baby may not have been as clean as today. But the order of bathing, which is still used today in Japan and Korea, is definitely a patriarchal thing.

    • @victoriareil2782
      @victoriareil2782 Před 3 lety +35

      These were my thoughts as well, Vivian. In fact, when I was young there was a woman in my community who remembered family baths in WWII England. She said that the baby went first and the father went last, for the same reason you pointed out.

    • @bonniechance2357
      @bonniechance2357 Před 3 lety +53

      @@leoscheibelhut940 Actually, this isn't true (about the diapers and wipes). Both my brother and I wore cloth diapers. (This was in the early 1960s.) There were no baby wipes or disposable diapers. Yet we were as clean as babies today. Infant cleanliness, then as now, was dependent on the degree of maternal effort.
      As to the order of bathing, I agree 100 percent.

    • @leoscheibelhut940
      @leoscheibelhut940 Před 3 lety +14

      @@bonniechance2357 Fair enough, my wife and I tried cloth diapers with our first child and gave up after five weeks. You are right that they kept her clean but the laundering did us in. We did have disposable wipes though.

    • @LillyMunster85
      @LillyMunster85 Před 3 lety +25

      Maybe its bc infant mortality was so high it was almost like give the people that made it to adults the cleanest water? Just a thought. Or maybe they didnt want the baby pooping/peeing in the water?

  • @naomijones8446
    @naomijones8446 Před 2 lety +33

    My great grandma died when she got her skirts caught in the fire. She did manage to get outside to put out the fire on herself, change her clothes and believe she got into bed and had my grandma who was 3 at the time be bringing her drinks of water because of shock set in. She was lightheaded due to expecting a baby and she was trying to get a dip of snuff when stumbled over towards the flames. This is according to what has been told from my mom and my aunts according to what they were told from grandma. Great grandpa wad a chimney maker and he was kept over by a family for celebration of a chimney completed. When he did get home , grandma and my great aunt who still an infant at the time had been alone for many hours and great grandma had passed. This had obviously been something very traumatic for grandma to had experienced in her early life and I had at times felt sad when hearing about it. Still saddens me.

  • @melol9981
    @melol9981 Před 3 lety +110

    Who else is impatiently waiting to see what happens next. Will Justine get married???? 👀 Will it be for true love 💘 or a higher lifestyle 🤔.

    • @ValerieBerezina
      @ValerieBerezina Před 3 lety +16

      Me! Been checking the channel every day to make sure I don't miss part two of the love triangle saga :)

    • @dewdrop3302
      @dewdrop3302 Před 3 lety +5

      True love for Justine will prevail. 💞

    • @ravenmaclennan3512
      @ravenmaclennan3512 Před 3 lety +5

      I want Justine to end up. With the Wood Cutter

    • @EarlyAmerican
      @EarlyAmerican  Před 3 lety +36

      Ron is planning on meeting with either Lucy, Ben or both to ask for permission in person.

    • @IVel76369
      @IVel76369 Před 3 lety +2

      I check each day in the morning and again at night, lol...so looking forwards to seeing the outcome❤

  • @amysbees6686
    @amysbees6686 Před 3 lety +83

    Well done, Early American "Mythbusters"!
    Would it be possible to sometime have a full house, room by room, tour video?

  • @writingraven3314
    @writingraven3314 Před 3 lety +148

    Interestingly, in 1871 in Ireland, Oscar Wilde's half sisters, Mary and Emily Wilde, were at a party when the dress of one sister caught fire bc she'd gotten too close to a candlestick. The other sister came to try and help her and alas, her dress caught fire as well. Both girls died, on different dates, several weeks later after suffering from the burns. Very tragic. They were both under 25 years old.

    • @brandylou9132
      @brandylou9132 Před 2 lety +4

      That's HORRIBLE! I've often wondered how they kept from catching their clothes on fire. Oh how those girls mut have suffered.

    • @thedayaftertomorrow5950
      @thedayaftertomorrow5950 Před 2 lety +4

      I also found an short news article from a bit earlier about a poor young lady who had caught her crinoline on fire from her fireplace. Though, I’m sure this wasn’t as common as people think.

    • @writingraven3314
      @writingraven3314 Před 2 lety +8

      @@thedayaftertomorrow5950 No, they were probably more careful than we'd think they'd be, like most of us are more careful to use a potholder or towel when we grasp a hot handle. They probably knew to be careful when around the fire. Poor girl.

    • @amandabeadle6982
      @amandabeadle6982 Před 2 lety +2

      How dreadful...

    • @ronaldinnewmexico1912
      @ronaldinnewmexico1912 Před 2 lety +4

      Henry Wadsworth Longfellow's second wife died in 1861 after sustaining burns when her dress caught fire. His first wife had died during a miscarriage.

  • @toysvilltvstudios2.072
    @toysvilltvstudios2.072 Před 2 lety +2

    That window blinds fact blew my mind. Never knew they been around this long. O.O

  • @allbackiceland
    @allbackiceland Před 2 lety +11

    I think "closets" and "wardrobes" could refer to entire rooms which contained dressing paraphernalia among the upper classes. Alexander Pope talks of people reading and writing in their closets, and Saint-Simon (the Duke) talks of monarchs having meetings in their wardrobe.

    • @ValeriePallaoro
      @ValeriePallaoro Před 2 lety +2

      Thank you; yes, of course. We still understand a water closet to be a room for the toilet. So, yours could be the case. A closet could be similarly a small room. And that, indeed, would be taxed.

  • @dowen1511
    @dowen1511 Před 3 lety +41

    The kitchen was separate to keep the kids out of the cookies and dad out of the pastry box 😂 .

    • @cynthiarothrock4255
      @cynthiarothrock4255 Před 2 lety +4

      Kitchen was separate because of HEAT FROM THE CONSTANT 🔥, and because of DANGER OF BURNING THE CABIN DOWN. From the open fireplace.
      ( when cookstoves became more common the 🔥 danger was cut down to 25% simply because there was a door to keep fire inside the fire area. Not burning logs falling out into the room as it burned. Also stoves used less wood, and maintained heat better in winter .
      However THE KITCHEN WAS STILL AN OVEN ALL SUMMER! and people often moved the kitchen outside every summer because of this. ( think of when your camping with an open fire 🔥 24/7
      And live with just that fire for all cooking, water heating, and washing for the entire summer. Wouldn't you rather be outside in a breeze than inside with only the door letting out the heat?) I have baked bread both ways. Outside open fireplace. And inside on a woodstove without power. ( in August) cooking outside on the stove happened when I refuse to make food unless he
      1 paid the electric bill .
      2 move the stove outside if he wanted to eat.
      We cooked outside for a month to pay off the utilities.

    • @SR-iy4gg
      @SR-iy4gg Před 2 lety +1

      @@cynthiarothrock4255 It's a joke. Calm down.

    • @cynthiarothrock4255
      @cynthiarothrock4255 Před 2 lety +1

      @@SR-iy4gg I wasn't joking.
      His choice was move the stove outside or STARVE. and I had hungrey mouths backing me up.

  • @micjam1986
    @micjam1986 Před rokem +3

    The height myth came into being because if the low doorways and low ceilings. This was done to help stay warm in winter having only wood heat at the time.

    • @EarlyAmerican
      @EarlyAmerican  Před rokem

      exactly that + the fact that higher ceilings = more money and energy put into building the house. Not all houses had low ceilings. Palaces had hugeeeely tall ceilings because they could afford that. It had nothing to do with height. Back when you needed just your own arms and horses to haul 3,000 pound logs to build a house the higher up you built the harder it was.

  • @arthurblanchat2055
    @arthurblanchat2055 Před 3 lety +55

    Thank you, thank you, thank you for debunking the "sleep tight" myth. You cannot tour an antebellum house in the South without hearing that. Drives me crazy especially when they say that a guest knew it was time to leave when they would send the slaves to loosen the ropes on your bed. It usually takes two people to tighten the ropes on a rope bed. They would not have wasted the labor. However, closets were taxed as rooms during the French Colonial period in New Orleans. Maybe that information has erroneously spread to the rest of the country. Chimneys were also taxed in New Orleans which led to multiple fire places using the same chimney. The house that I grew up in had a triple fireplace with one chimney. It would be great if y'all could do a video showing how to use a bed key to tighten the ropes on a bed.

    • @EarlyAmerican
      @EarlyAmerican  Před 3 lety +13

      Chimneys were indeed taxed at one point in New Orleans but the closets never were. Check this out when you have the time. prcno.org/why-do-older-new-orleans-houses-have-so-few-closets/#:~:text=Armoires%20were%20used%20locally%20because,an%20American%20tax%20on%20doors.

    • @annainspain5176
      @annainspain5176 Před 2 lety +2

      That's where we got the phrase "to make the bed." You had to tighten the ropes and turn the mattress before you could even think about tucking in the sheets and blankets.

  • @jmundi2002
    @jmundi2002 Před 3 lety +19

    I always love this kind of videos because it makes me feel like im time traveling and they are just teaching their lifestyle

  • @IVel76369
    @IVel76369 Před 3 lety +19

    Absolutely loved this informative break! So very interesting and enjoyable to watch and learn. It was such a pleasure to see you all on a more direct reality level of communication. Thank you for your interesting and factual presentation!

  • @mewhor
    @mewhor Před 3 lety +16

    Thank you for posting this. I despise crackpot history and inaccurate tidbits often spoil historical tours for me. Next time someone brings up the “baby with the bath water” myth I can refer them to this video.

  • @mattieb7348
    @mattieb7348 Před 3 lety +9

    I'm so glad I came across your channel. I enjoy everything you do. I love the historical content you present. I must admit that every time I see one of you girls around an open fire in your long dresses it makes me very nervous. In the early 19th Century, my ancestral grandmother died from burns she suffered when her dress caught fire when she fell asleep in a chair while warming herself in front of the hearth on a cold November night. I'm so glad to know it was a rare occasion. Thank you for educating us with your knowledge and talents!

  • @danasandlin2435
    @danasandlin2435 Před 2 lety +1

    Around 1918, my grandmother did almost burn to death from a fire on her clothing from a stove...she was 10 years old and wearing a flannel nightgown. It was wintertime and nighttime and cold and she had seen grown ups start a fire in the stove with kerosene. She opened the stove, not realizing that it contained hot coals under the ash. She poured the kerosene into the stove and it literally blew up in her face. She would have died (and almost did anyway), except that her younger brother was with her and ran to get her father, who threw her to the floor and rolled her up in a rug to put out the flames. The rest of the next 10 years was spent on convalescence and attempting to put her life back together again (she was badly burned: 3rd degree burns over 90% of her body, including face and hair)...she was never recognizable again as her face was badly burned, but she learned how to 'paint on' a face. She had deep scarring on her cheeks, nose and mouth. She learned to walk again with a great deal of pain (I will spare you the morbid details)--let's just say, it involved breaking scar tissue multiple times. So, while 'catching fire' may not have been a 'regular occurrence' over our nation's history--but I have first hand knowledge that it certainly did happen--and it was not pretty, when it did happen. Just to set the record straight. dts/usa

  • @danieldev7061
    @danieldev7061 Před 3 lety +21

    Haha, I always thought "sleep tight" meant something like wrapping your bedsheets around you very tight (especially when it's cold) and that'll make you sleep warm and good.
    I love these videos btw, keep it on!

    • @srvntlilly
      @srvntlilly Před 2 lety +2

      Same here. I thought she was gonna say something about the bedbugs, though, lol.

    • @miachambers830
      @miachambers830 Před 2 lety +1

      Sleep tight means to pull the ropes tight on the bed..!

    • @mabel8179
      @mabel8179 Před rokem +1

      It sure as heck meant that in our house in the 1970s! Freezing cold bedrooms and about 4 blankets on the bed which my Mum would tuck us in tightly with.

  • @grettagrids
    @grettagrids Před 2 lety +2

    Corsets are awesome! I have ehlers danlos. And wear them for rib and spine stability and support. I'm much more comfortable. In a tight corset then without.

  • @davidschlaefer8078
    @davidschlaefer8078 Před 2 lety +3

    Another interesting point is that people would have washed off to some extent before getting in the hot bath, just like you still do in Japan and many other places in Asia, where a communal bathtub (like a little jacuzzi) is common and family members tend to bathe sequentially. So a lot of grime from the fields and kitchen was already washed away before slipping into the warm bath.

    • @mabel8179
      @mabel8179 Před rokem

      Yes, they'd wash off the dust, mud and coal dust outside at the water pump. Cold water too- must've been freezing in the winter.

  • @margaretmathis4775
    @margaretmathis4775 Před 2 lety +9

    I am enjoying this series so much! I have recently been looking into my genealogy, and coming to realize that my maternal ancestors were in America since the 1600’s. These videos give me a snapshot of what their lives might have been like! Thank you!

    • @MystikalWisdom
      @MystikalWisdom Před 2 lety +2

      i found out thru doing genealogy both sides of my family have been in the USA since early 1600s as well and relatives on each side fought in revolutionary & civil wars!!!

    • @margaretmathis4775
      @margaretmathis4775 Před 2 lety +1

      @@MystikalWisdom Same here, both wars!

  • @wooble73
    @wooble73 Před 3 lety +6

    Excellent engagement with the viewers 👏👏

  • @jameshayden8789
    @jameshayden8789 Před 2 lety +15

    I remember in the 60s and 70s taking baths after my parents had taken theirs first. They both grew up in large poor families where this was common practice and no one thought twice about doing things any different.

    • @ericcrabtree6245
      @ericcrabtree6245 Před 2 lety +1

      Trust me - they thought about doing it differently.

    • @SR-iy4gg
      @SR-iy4gg Před 2 lety +4

      @@ericcrabtree6245 I doubt it. Many people do things for years or generations without ever knowing there is another way to do it or wondering if there is a better way. Not everyone is exposed to different ideas like you probably are. I knew a girl years ago who lived in a very rural county west of Atlanta. She and her family went to Atlanta for about 2 days and stayed in a hotel. The girl told us about this when she was back at school. She was so excited about her "vacation." We asked her what she did or where she went. They didn't go anywhere in the city. All they did was stay at a hotel, and she was excited that it had a pool. Staying at the hotel WAS their vacation. Some people have no concept of what else is out there in the world.

  • @arkaysdesign5038
    @arkaysdesign5038 Před 2 lety +2

    I LOVE your content! I love how you explain and give examples. Excellent videos! 👏🏼❤️

  • @elizabethraitanen5057
    @elizabethraitanen5057 Před 3 lety +7

    I love this channel too! This was a very interesting video. I learned a lot. Thank you for continuing to bring us such engaging content!

  • @marieboutin9054
    @marieboutin9054 Před 2 lety +4

    a very entertaining video. I love your channel. I have a degree in English and I learnt American civilization. That's why I am very interested in your videos. I think there is an accurate description of American way of living in the early 19 th century. And the actors are performing very well. What's more, they are easy to understand. Thank you

  • @emh2192
    @emh2192 Před 3 lety +15

    I literally paused the video within seconds to scream and clap in joy. I spent several months researching and writing about how the myth that people were shorter is nonsense and the greatest difference in the size of a white man from the 18th century to modern day is a mere 6 cm! Everyone loves to tout the myth and it drives me absolutely crazy.

    • @annyoung1579
      @annyoung1579 Před 3 lety +2

      I hear the same myth in my antiques groups!! It's because door frames were made lower and antique beds seem shorter than modern ones.

    • @ThinWhiteAxe
      @ThinWhiteAxe Před 2 lety +1

      @@annyoung1579 off the Blue Ridge Parkway in the mountains of North Carolina there is a log cabin and other outbuildings that were the property of the Brinegar family around the late 19th/early 20th centuries. I've been inside, and the main room ceiling is quite low, and the doorway feels short. Well, Martin Brinegar, who built the cabin, was around 6 feet tall himself, and he built it exactly tall enough for himself to get in - no more. Why waste space and lumber on a high ceiling?

  • @chrisreed26
    @chrisreed26 Před 2 lety +1

    My grandmother caught fire while cooking on an old wood stove in 1936 in Jacksonville,FL..She was in an upstairs apartment when her clothes caught fire..she was watching several children and ran downstairs trying to keep the kids away from her and the neighbors quickly covered her in blankets but it was too late, she had severe burns which in 1936, treatment was not too great..it was a very painful way to die and my mother watched it happen..very sad.. I still have the news clipping announcing her death.. My mother has always been scared of fire since and refuses to use a gas stove but she still loves a fireplace..go figure..

  • @mastersadvocate
    @mastersadvocate Před 3 lety +6

    Thanks so much for all the explanations of the common myths about the early 19th century! I have learnt a lot! Keep making these wonderful videos! I really enjoy watching them! Stay safe! ~Janet in Canada

  • @JA51711
    @JA51711 Před 2 lety +2

    Some of My ancestors were from Germany and traveled through Pennsylvania then Ohio and Missouri in the 1700s and these videos help me connect with my own history so thank you and God bless

  • @WaiferThyme
    @WaiferThyme Před 3 lety +5

    My Dad was prescribed a corset in the 60s when he injured his back!

  • @georgeedmonds72
    @georgeedmonds72 Před 2 lety +2

    I just stumbled across your channel and I love you guys! It rings so true and you obviously care so much! Thank you!

  • @ginnyquintal4201
    @ginnyquintal4201 Před 2 lety +3

    I love these myth debunks I absolutely am fascinated with Victorian era

  • @vanderwallman8143
    @vanderwallman8143 Před 2 lety +1

    My grandmother’s sister was 12 or 13 years old when her skirts caught fire while she was sweeping. She died from her injuries. It appears from the comments that this was actually a common cause of death.

  • @florencedove4068
    @florencedove4068 Před 2 lety +1

    Blanket chests were also used for storing garments and valuables as they were lockable. I have a 1760 blanket chest with a devilish lock and an intact ditty box for special items.

  • @shayhouk8582
    @shayhouk8582 Před 3 lety +43

    That was interesting and good to know. But the burning question I have is, What is happening with Justines marriage situation?

  • @jcrass2361
    @jcrass2361 Před 3 lety +6

    Neat little video! Would love to work somewhere like this, seems fun.

  • @whiteblossom8670
    @whiteblossom8670 Před 3 lety +4

    Amazing educational video love your work 💟

  • @rockstarmom3121
    @rockstarmom3121 Před rokem

    When we built our house in 2010 our assessment and taxes were based upon bedrooms (due to school age children and 90% of the taxes going to schools)if a room has a closet it’s considered a bedroom.

  • @robynszeliga6113
    @robynszeliga6113 Před 3 lety +9

    Closet tax😄
    Don't give em any ideas to add to property taxes.😅

  • @deborahweppelman1166
    @deborahweppelman1166 Před 3 lety +12

    I love this channel!

  • @joycejackson9315
    @joycejackson9315 Před 3 lety +2

    Really great video ! Stays wear like the modern full slip. It was a standard for every women in my family.

  • @ACS551
    @ACS551 Před 3 lety +5

    I learned a few surprising things!! Thanks!

  • @guidobandito4370
    @guidobandito4370 Před 2 lety +1

    I think most people think people were shorter was due to ceiling being lower in homes. They were lower to conserve heat.

  • @AbitheWitch
    @AbitheWitch Před 3 lety +3

    I loved this style of video!! I think it's great that you guys mix it up sometimes...half drama, half myth-busting lol

  • @Growmap
    @Growmap Před 2 lety +1

    Off-grid homesteaders today sometimes have an outdoor kitchen because wood cook stoves generate so much heat that they would make the house unbearable hot in the summer. So I'm sure that would have been true back then, too.

  • @robmarshallofficial
    @robmarshallofficial Před 2 lety +3

    I found the bit about height interesting. I’m based in England (U.K.) and I stand at 6’2” (I’m 42 years old), and in my 20’s to 30’s, I visited Captain Cook’s ship which was a surprise, as we walked (and I use the term walk very very loosely), I almost had to bend over to almost a 90 degree angle to fit through doorways and in the back of the ship where the captain’s Cabin was, if I stood on my knees, my head touched the ceiling. I’ve also visited several Edwardian and Victorian homes in York (been preserved for historic value) and found the door arch ways to be fitting for someone 5 foot tall. I know wood over time can shrink etc however I can’t imagine (I’ve wood as a carpenter) wood especially hard wood, shrinking a full foot or more. You don’t see miniature barns originally built in 1800’s. I agree nutrition would have played a part in it. I also know that some forces (including police forces) said you had to be a certain height to join, if this is the case for the military then they would most likely want tall men to join (think of David and Goliath, where people were afraid of Goliath due to his size, so same sort of thing), unfortunately I doubt there would be records of of height for general people and maids, servants etc.

    • @jessiewhyte9729
      @jessiewhyte9729 Před 2 lety

      The average midshipman at the time of Cook was 4'9". People were shorter, than they are today. Average height was 5'6" for a man and 5'2" for a woman. Though if you came from a poor background you would be 4" shorter than someone from a rich background. This lasted right up until the 1st world war, when the army had to turn away so many men because they were stunted from working too early and malnutrition. Life expectancy in Liverpool for example was only 17 years, less than in the stone age, purely because of malnutrition.

    • @lyndawilliams4570
      @lyndawilliams4570 Před 2 lety

      I agree. I think years ago because people’s diets were not as varied or healthy as what we eat and their lives were difficult- they may have experienced growth deficiencies which caused them to be thinner / shorter

    • @mabel8179
      @mabel8179 Před rokem

      Yes, us Brits were definitely shorter until the 1940s. I've seen plenty of historical clothing and the women were averaging 5 foot in height, judging by the size of those tiny dresses. I've seen women's shoes from the early 1800s and they were very narrow and about a size 3! Diet played a big part of it, especially in the 19th century because toddlers were fed very little on things like milk puddings because they thought tiny children couldn't eat what adults ate, so they didn't grow as fast and as tall as modern children do. There's loads of photos from the 19th century where you can see the poor children are very stunted in growth, and some have rickets. They found out just how many poor people were undernourished during the call up of men during world war one. So many of the men were thin, short and malnourished that they had to feed them up before military training.

  • @dianesorokac2260
    @dianesorokac2260 Před 3 lety +2

    Love this channel n old houses...many old houses in NJ USA to tour ..

  • @SeanOCuinn.
    @SeanOCuinn. Před 2 lety +3

    Here in Ireland during the 1100’s - 1800’s there was tax’s had to be paid per window in a house, per fireplace and yes per closet, and many other crazy tax’s that were used to keep the Irish Catholics poor. The term “daylight robbery” was coined from people having to block up windows in their home to avoid paying outrageous taxes.

    • @heidimisfeldt5685
      @heidimisfeldt5685 Před 2 lety +1

      Holĺand used to have a tax for curtains, and that's why people kept curtains really short. Don't know if this crazy tax still is law.

    • @ValeriePallaoro
      @ValeriePallaoro Před 2 lety

      A gentleman pointed out that 'closets' were small rooms for writing or, as in water closet, an actual room for the toilet. So, what this man has said is to not understand that closets are rooms, not like a wardrobe which is what he was pointing to. His research is limited.

  • @sarahc8862
    @sarahc8862 Před 2 lety

    I grew up in a old plantation house in Raleigh NC and we had a little separate summer kitchen from the main house but my understanding was it was mainly used for canning so you wouldn't heat the house up in the south harvest and preservation time is still hot.

  • @Kairi98503
    @Kairi98503 Před 2 lety +1

    Later corsets were actually no more or less uncomfortable then a modern bra or the stays. A lot of snatched waists were achieved by padding & clever tailoring. Even the corsets would be padded out if you couldn't quite fill out the corset for whatever reason or it was extremely shapely. Only a small number of people actually tight laced. A lot of every day corsets were actually quite soft, using mainly cording and minimal boning. Like the pretty house maid which was the cheapest corset at one point that was marketed to domestic servents.

  • @rebeccaback3287
    @rebeccaback3287 Před 3 lety +3

    Verry informative lesson !I have learned a lot of interesting facts .Talking about people's sizes in how tall the grew back then ,compared to their height today.I am 5th 9inches,both of my grandfather s was 5ft9inches,my dad was 5th 11inches.To me this is a verry interesting fact.Love your videos as usual,David Back Menifee county Kentucky.

    • @IliyanStoychev
      @IliyanStoychev Před 2 lety +1

      it seems that height is influenced greatly by the mother's side of the genes. a man that is 5'9'' marries a woman that is 5'10'', the child is likely to be taller than the mother, especially if it is a male child. if a 6''3 man marries a 5'3 woman, it would be very likely that the offspring will be shorter than the dad, with the gender being irrelevant.

  • @lauralutz4538
    @lauralutz4538 Před rokem

    This channel is so interesting & informative! The Presenters/Actors, are wonderful. Are these all older videos or are videos still in production? Thanks to you all!🌸

  • @CatzASMRnMore
    @CatzASMRnMore Před 2 lety +1

    My mom actually made Venetian blinds in 1980-81 alot of work.and by hand.and machine.takes along time to string it also..

  • @ElizabethJones-pv3sj
    @ElizabethJones-pv3sj Před 2 lety +1

    Thankyou for the baby with the bathwater debunking. I once had someone seriously argue, after reading the known historical facts on the matter (i.e. first known usage etc.), that 'it must have some basis in truth' but as you say a baby forgotten about in dirty water is dead, you'd think the fact that the baby is dead would be the more memorable fact you'd want to remember in a folk saying than the baby's dead body being accidentally thrown out.

  • @angelagrimes8237
    @angelagrimes8237 Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you, thank you! So much misinformation based on watered down history over time. Plus movies, although great entertainment, create a lot of these myths based on cinematic needs. Thank you!

  • @odiug95
    @odiug95 Před 3 lety +6

    Very few people would do really tight lacing though, even when small waists were popular. Only very fashion-forward women would, kinda like we see Instagram girls today wearing really uncomfortable clothes lol.

  • @koololdster
    @koololdster Před 3 lety +17

    We love to think we are more intelligent than our ancestors; just like 20 year olds think they know so much more than their elders. Oh, the foolishness of youth!! Thanks for busting these myths.

  • @heidimisfeldt5685
    @heidimisfeldt5685 Před 2 lety +2

    😳😲 In Germany closets are indeed taxed as extra rooms, and people have furniture instead.

  • @girlofdifferentera2922
    @girlofdifferentera2922 Před 3 lety +2

    I have been really enjoying this channel!!

  • @teckelhut
    @teckelhut Před 3 lety

    I have a clock like that. An 1823 Eli Terry patented Shelf clock. They were also called Eli Terry Connecticut shelf clocks. It's my pride and joy of my clock collection.

  • @bowiearcangeli11
    @bowiearcangeli11 Před 3 lety +2

    This was very interesting and informative. Thank you 🙏

  • @insideoutsideupsidedown2218

    I believe was that closets were only in the more wealthy peoples homes. Most people had a wardrobe/armoire to store clothes.

  • @grammy3875
    @grammy3875 Před 3 lety +3

    I enjoyed this so much!
    Thank you!

  • @leoscheibelhut940
    @leoscheibelhut940 Před 3 lety

    Glad to see your channel gaining traction, more people should watch it.

  • @elizabethbrower640
    @elizabethbrower640 Před 3 lety +3

    Never heard of taxing closets. I lived in two colonial homes that had closets and kitchens. People used armoires, blanket chests and dressers for their clothing so they didn’t need closets.

    • @be6715
      @be6715 Před 3 lety

      Having lived in Germany for a summer, closets just aren't a thing. I think it must have been new-fangled thinking at some point to put them into homes. :)

    • @elizabethbrower640
      @elizabethbrower640 Před 3 lety +1

      In some cultures perhaps. People use armoires or dressers. In America we have closets which I like because I can organize everything and there is no clutter but I still have armoire and dressers because I like antiques.

    • @margretsims1322
      @margretsims1322 Před rokem

      What about hanging a dress?

  • @scottlewisparsons9551
    @scottlewisparsons9551 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for another great and informative video. Very enjoyable. Have a good day.

  • @WanderingRoe
    @WanderingRoe Před rokem

    This was very interesting, I actually hadn’t heard of most of these myths - thank you for an informative video!

  • @williamkuhns2387
    @williamkuhns2387 Před rokem

    My guess that the reason for baby being bathed last was that placing the baby in warm water could stimulate their bladder/bowels thus soiling the bath water for adults? At public swimming pools when babies and not potty trained toddlers have an "accident" the pool has to be closed and cleaned/sanitized.

  • @MrsYasha1984
    @MrsYasha1984 Před 3 lety +2

    Awesome content, thank you so much!

  • @msjadhav5192
    @msjadhav5192 Před 2 lety +1

    2:48. That door is abnormally huge!!!!!!

  • @mikebrase5161
    @mikebrase5161 Před 2 lety +1

    I've poured over thousands of Civil War veterans pension records. One thing sticks out, if you made it out of childhood and made it through a war you were very likely to live 60+ years.

  • @cf8959
    @cf8959 Před 2 lety

    I have always been fascinated with the everyday lives of people during this time period. We read so much in history books and on the History Channel about historical events and well-known people, I always wanted to know what the average family’s lives were like. I’m originally from Indiana. My husband and I would take our kids to Conner Prairie Living Museum. It was awesome! Ever since, I’ve been totally hooked on how people lived.

  • @SaraHA2371
    @SaraHA2371 Před 2 lety +1

    The whole closet thing was mainly in england where that same tax exists I think in cities or maybe it's just London.

  • @T.R.Y.1313
    @T.R.Y.1313 Před 2 lety

    And the bugs (of the sleep tight) was in reference to the bugs that would often be living amongst the hay used to stuff the “mattress.”

  • @lexismom9341
    @lexismom9341 Před 2 lety

    Very informative! Thank you!!

  • @aemiliadelroba4022
    @aemiliadelroba4022 Před 2 lety

    Very educational!
    Thanks 🙏

  • @markgoddard2560
    @markgoddard2560 Před 3 lety +6

    Forget the myths….what about Justine and woodcutter!!! Let’s have a happy ending….too much misery these days.

  • @crystalroseblue6760
    @crystalroseblue6760 Před 2 lety +3

    I agree with all of this,I live in Australia,but most of my life it was in the house of my grandparents on the south east coast in a old house of my great grandparents ( which now unfortunatly is demolished.) I can remember every thing in that house,I having a rare ability of vidio like memory .Every plank and board was hand cut and inside walls were made of thick tar backed paper over a trellese work frame, then wall paper over that, and even the ceilings were made the same.Wood fuel stove and openfire place,made of hand made mud brick fire place with tin chimney hand cut and joined ,with big chains hanging down to hold water containers and kettles,or cooking ..Kerosene lamps were used,it was like living back in the early days of Queen Victoria era.of gas light.I know about the usage of many things from back then,The women wore a heavy non flamible woolen skirt with apron,and it would protect the legs from sparks ,as well water container was always handy ,an damp cloth for hands or sparks.a flick of the wrist and it was back into the fire.But one always was mindfull not to overdo the fire or use timber that sparked when cooking....wood was not always good some sparked a lot.And outside cook house was used as he said,but most had a coverd walk way to the house so food did not get cold or wet in unclement weather,these kitchens were also mostly used for laundrys at one end of it ,as my Grandmother said.However indoor cooking was used over the open fire during bad weather but it was light cooking only or warmed up food.But indoor cooking was used a lot when iron wood fuel stoves were brought in and availble .Electricty was available for my grandparents, but fear of it living in a timber and paper house was to great.So it was never installed.My Grandmother watched Television at my Uncles house next door, (her youngest son) in her later years and watched as men walked on the moon and asked me if it was real. She was amazed.( she grew up in horse and buggy era) she and her sister watched the last peice of the Sydney Harbour bridge being lowerd into place.She like modern things,but lived in her parents home without all her life and taught me it all on usages of said items and reasons why..And told me many stories of the past.

    • @ValeriePallaoro
      @ValeriePallaoro Před 2 lety +1

      I love your story; very happy to know that woolen skirts and a water bucket by the fire kept cooks safe. You have some good memory there.

    • @w.dossett3332
      @w.dossett3332 Před 2 lety

      What wonderful memories you have, such a shame the house is no longer standing

    • @w.dossett3332
      @w.dossett3332 Před 2 lety

      What wonderful memories you have, such a shame the house is no longer standing

    • @crystalroseblue6760
      @crystalroseblue6760 Před 2 lety

      @@ValeriePallaoro Thank you,yes I can still see it in my memories..literally. But I still miss the place It was inhereted by a second cousin a greedy woman that sold the place to developers they bulldozed the place down and every precious plant and tree very rare were distroyed also. And a greedy Aunt befor that happened took all the antque furniture and sold it all off ,I have been chasing it all for years only got one or two cheep things back...but my money is limited and I stay happy with the little I got ,as my grandmother said it is only valuable in money for those that can afford it. But the cheepest item is more sentimental invaluable to those that have memories with them.one item is an old zethier musical instrument that my grandmother gave me befor she died,there is another one from a on sale ebay...yeaaaaas! I am still looking for others .Got my sisters egg cup back my nasty Aunt stole at my Grans house,and she was over the moon I found her childhood treasure .There out there I just keep looking .Keep well.

  • @violetopal6264
    @violetopal6264 Před 2 lety

    About taxing closets. It probably came from people visiting England where closets are currently taxed. Along with outdoor water spigots. At least they were when my Dad was stationed there while he was in the airforce in late 80s.
    Mom said she once surprised a neighbor when asked why nobody had a spigot outside.

  • @dragonpullman23
    @dragonpullman23 Před 2 lety +1

    Of course, it modern times, the word "tight" has been adopted into street slang to essentially mean the same thing that it apparently did in the 18th century.

  • @brookebenton8192
    @brookebenton8192 Před 2 lety +2

    Height also has a lot to do with ethnic background. Childbirth was also a huge cause of death for women back then.

    • @ValeriePallaoro
      @ValeriePallaoro Před 2 lety

      due to infection, childbirth, itself was not the problem. Height is always about health and nutrient intake - remember when caucasians used to think that Japanese were all short in stature and then after the war, they shot up through increased protien in every meal? It's that. All the time, it's that.

  • @deynaundomiel8402
    @deynaundomiel8402 Před 3 lety

    This is my new favorite channel! Please continue making these awesome videos! 😍❤️

  • @amywright2243
    @amywright2243 Před 3 lety +1

    Tipped to your channel from Townsends. Excited to learn from you too!

  • @gafls3151
    @gafls3151 Před rokem

    I grew up with no water heater in the house (at least we finally had piped-in water!) so all of the bath water had to be heated on the stove and carried by hand. Consequently we started out with only a couple 3 in of water and with the cleanest person.
    As each person bathed more water was added to keep it comfortable.
    Babies were bathed in what was used for a kitchen sink, or dish pan or in the clothes washing tub. Much smaller space, easier to keep things under control. (Also easier to throw the baby out with the bath! Hence the idiom.)

  • @auntemmyd1604
    @auntemmyd1604 Před 2 lety

    Closets were taxed here in Baltimore City Maryland long ago, ours only have two in the whole house!

  • @glennda1939
    @glennda1939 Před rokem +1

    My mom was born in 1921 raised in Texas. In her family the person who hauled the water to the house & heated it got the first bath. My mom liked bathing first so she would do the work to have this privilege. They used a wood cook stove to heat water & cook.
    More than once she dragged her older sister out of the tub as she wanted the first bath but didn't want to do all the work...

    • @annaklunk2453
      @annaklunk2453 Před rokem

      Тот кто купался первым, мылся в самой чистой воде. И как правило это были родители

    • @glennda1939
      @glennda1939 Před rokem

      @Anna Klunk I wish I could read what you wrote to me but Google is not translating 😕

    • @annaklunk2453
      @annaklunk2453 Před rokem +1

      @@glennda1939 l wrote: the oder who bathed first, waschen in the cleanen water. And usually it was the parents.
      In Germany, it was also possible to wach in a barrel in the squares, the one wo pays the most, he Wasser first.

    • @glennda1939
      @glennda1939 Před rokem

      @Anna Klunk Thank you Anna! I appreciate your sharing this. I enjoy learning about others customs!

  • @OofusTwillip
    @OofusTwillip Před rokem

    There's an old British music hall song called "A Mother's Lament", with a chorus that starts "Your baby has gone down the plughole..."

  • @ashleywilson3302
    @ashleywilson3302 Před 2 lety

    I have these wood blinds you open by pulling a cord! I absolutely love this type. Only down side, my 3yr. Daughter loves them to an can’t leave them alone hahaha

  • @gomerbiden6285
    @gomerbiden6285 Před 3 lety +11

    Justine is very pretty.

  • @barbarapeterson8030
    @barbarapeterson8030 Před 3 lety +4

    THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION...I am a new sub and I have questions PLEASE...May I ask where this home is located? Do you all live near the home? Are tours given in the home? I LOVE THE SERIES AND I hope you keep them coming. We live in Pittsburgh PA and I will share your videos TO THE BURGH!

    • @EarlyAmerican
      @EarlyAmerican  Před 3 lety +2

      Hello Barbara ^_^ ! The house is located in a suburb of St Louis called Edwardsville in Illinois. It is open for tours at the moment from 10-4 Thursday-Sunday.

    • @TheHomesteadingHobbit
      @TheHomesteadingHobbit Před 3 lety +2

      I believe they are in Illinois.

    • @leoscheibelhut940
      @leoscheibelhut940 Před 3 lety +1

      I had the same question, thanks for asking.

  • @amuckamuckamuck273
    @amuckamuckamuck273 Před rokem +1

    I had no idea anyone could ever misconstrue that expression that way…

  • @beckygriggs7827
    @beckygriggs7827 Před 3 lety +2

    I love history, that was a interesting lesson, thanks

  • @redstateforever
    @redstateforever Před 3 lety +1

    Idk about the height thing. Washington was 6 ft. or so, and he was considered very tall. I’ve toured the military museum in Paris, and they have lots of actual uniforms from the Napoleonic wars, and they are TINY. As a petite to average size woman, I’d have had trouble squeezing into some of them, but maybe that’s a French thing. However, I’ve also read the average Civil War soldier was 5’6”, 135 lbs. I have trouble believing the average height for men has decreased given the vast improvements in nutrition and medicine.

    • @charlottekey8856
      @charlottekey8856 Před 3 lety

      George Washington was 6 ft. 2 in. Henry VIII was 6 ft. tall. The average Civil War height was 5 ft 8 1/4 in. Some sources say 5'7" but most say a little over 5 ft. 8. When I was cataloging Ellis Island files for immigrants who came during the early 20th c., the northern Europeans were mostly 5'8" or over. The east and southern immigrants were short. Women were 4 ft 11 in, 150 pounds. Short and stout.

  • @Scofield1948
    @Scofield1948 Před 2 lety

    About the orgins of the phrase "don't throw the baby out with the bathwater," there is a 1619 use by Joannes Kepler in his book Tertius Interveniens. It is found in the subtitle of the book and refers to the subject of astrology, which Kepler practiced.

  • @adoxartist1258
    @adoxartist1258 Před 2 lety

    I have a good friend from Germany who told me that they use large wardrobes in the bedrooms instead of closets because in Germany closets are taxed as rooms. Whether that is still true or not idk. But this may be the reason it's thought of having been true here. So many of our ancestors came from places where rooms and housing features were taxed differently.

  • @margui6224
    @margui6224 Před rokem

    Interesting facts. Thank you.