Hyundai Veloster N DCT | A Better GTI?

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  • čas přidán 29. 08. 2024

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  • @shadowsocks7472
    @shadowsocks7472 Před 3 lety +856

    Since ordering a SG tshirt I've been buzzing my head, screaming at minivans, and making thinly veiled comments about putting people in my trunk. I've never been happier.

    • @asdewq9683
      @asdewq9683 Před 3 lety +10

      never buy a car soon to be discontinued.

    • @truckerrickakamanowar
      @truckerrickakamanowar Před 3 lety +16

      @@asdewq9683 Might be more of a reason to buy one. People always want what they can't have. Some will pay a premium when they do.

    • @e46m54nissansr20937
      @e46m54nissansr20937 Před 3 lety +4

      🤣

  • @Whomecouldntb3
    @Whomecouldntb3 Před 3 lety +569

    I can genuinely appreciate what Hyundai is trying to do with this car.

    • @grantapalooza998
      @grantapalooza998 Před 3 lety +91

      I wish more people did
      Cause I feel like people never truly appreciate the cars we have until it's too late and they're old.

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu Před 3 lety +3

      @@grantapalooza998 the Hyundai feels half assed, they could've done so much more with this thing.

    • @truckerrickakamanowar
      @truckerrickakamanowar Před 3 lety +49

      I always root for the Veloster.

    • @MLHunt
      @MLHunt Před 3 lety +89

      @@dragospahontu They deliberately engineered it to a price point, a business decision I don't really take issue with. It'll be interesting to see what the aftermarket comes up with for it. If they actually sell a lot of these that'll make it more likely that performance enhancements for it will be developed.

    • @gwcrispi
      @gwcrispi Před 3 lety +79

      @@dragospahontu No, they did what they did ON PURPOSE! Those of us that bought one, don't want to spend more for a nice interior that we don't look at. We don't want to spend more for a stereo that we turn off. This is a $32,500 (what I paid) hot hatch that can go from the showroom to the track without any modifications... and you can have a blast.

  • @gwcrispi
    @gwcrispi Před 2 lety +85

    I've had DCT since January. Six track days and 50+ autocross runs later I've had zero issues. Coolant and Oil have never gotten too hot. Brake performance has been great. I still have half of my pads left which is just nuts. The interior is cheap, don't care, don't have time to look at it. Seats are great for the track, so-so for the street, very thin. My biggest gripe is the tires. Wish they had gone with Michelin PS4S. A stiffer sway bar from Whiteline fixes the understeer to a large degree. While I love flicking through the gears myself on track, I've found that TrackSense mode is faster than me.

    • @robbylebotha
      @robbylebotha Před 2 lety

      Doesn't coolant always get hot, in every car? Do you mean engine overheating. Just curious, I've never heard anyone say coolant got hot.

    • @gwcrispi
      @gwcrispi Před 2 lety +1

      @@robbylebotha "too hot"

    • @robbylebotha
      @robbylebotha Před 2 lety

      @@gwcrispi ok, what coolant temperature is "too hot" ? Pardon my ignorance but as far as I know, the need stays centre and if it passes there then there's a problem either with your thermostat, pump or fan.

    • @gwcrispi
      @gwcrispi Před 2 lety +4

      @@robbylebotha Nah, in the Performance options you get a digital readout of several things down to the exact degree. I have Coolant Temp and Oil Temp on that screen when I am racing. I know what "normal" is from driving. Coolant around 200 and Oil in the low 200's to 250. So I know if they're going up. The needle indicator near the Tach is bogus. The pointer is just below 9 o'clock (normal) as soon as the temp gets to 140. From 140 to 200 the needle doesn't move any more. I posted on this on the Veloster N forum.

    • @robbylebotha
      @robbylebotha Před 2 lety

      @@gwcrispi ok now I get you, thank you mate

  • @ronallen81
    @ronallen81 Před 3 lety +302

    The return of the door close cam
    How i missed you

  • @andrewl6751
    @andrewl6751 Před 3 lety +155

    This was one of the best car reviews I have ever seen, you obviously drive these cars to way higher levels than the average car review and have answered way more of my questions.

    • @djmcwill1010
      @djmcwill1010 Před 3 lety +1

      Firmly agree. Just discovered this channel a couple weeks ago and every vid is what I would deliver if I put my very best foot forward. This is a near as damnit flawless channel with information delivered by a clearly seasoned, sensible, passionate, and intelligent dude. I'm a recovering "car guy" who has turned a wrench far too many times and I basically align with 100-percent of the info in these vids that I can relate to, so I absolutely trust the stuff that's news to me

    • @glenniz1
      @glenniz1 Před 3 lety

      Been watching this channel for the last couple of years, and I truly cannot believe how in-depth and intelligent this program has become. By Far The Best Automotive Review Channel on CZcams....In fact, so good, that my daughter just purchased her first brand new car, a 2022 Hyundai Elantra, based on Mark and Jack's opinions! Thanks Guys!!!

    • @gustavogo2915
      @gustavogo2915 Před rokem

      @@glenniz1 I’m sorry to hear eye got that cheap cars

  • @AgroAaronFpv
    @AgroAaronFpv Před 3 lety +52

    I recently drove the N on one of my favorite back roads. I currently drive mk7 GTI and I can say that I wish I hadn't driven the N..lol 🤦‍♂️
    I know there's a lot of haters out there, but the truth is, the N absolutely crushes the GTI when it comes to handling, driving feel and fun.
    Great video!!

    • @rwolfcastle
      @rwolfcastle Před 3 lety +11

      Let people hate. Honda for a long time had a stigma as well. Road and Track named the N performance car of the year in 2020. So regardless of what people think of the brand the Veloster N is doing something right. Thanks to Albert Biermann.
      Yes, it comes with compromise but the car is an absolute blast to drive and is backed by a good warranty and three years free maintenance. (That's what my dealer gave me)

  • @kc64cl76
    @kc64cl76 Před 3 lety +28

    I've owned a 2019 GTI rabbit edition manual and up until today, a GLI 35th anniversary edition manual . Yesterday I took the N DCT out for a 1 1/2 hour test drive (by myself of course). I then went straight to the VW dealer and drove a GTI Autobahn DSG for an hour. I wanted to compare the two dual clutches. I had never driven the VW DSG 7 speed, I drove the 6-speed DSG a few years ago, thought it was good but still opted for a manual. I am a VW fan, have owned several, thought the GTI was the best for the money in the segment. It is hard to put into words how superior the N is compared to a GTI DSG. The GTI seems sluggish, slow and soft and unrefined by comparison. I was kind of shocked once I had the proper perspective. The N is far more refined than the 7 gen GTI, yes I said it, more refined, much more. The 8th gen GTI will be out in a few months, imo there is no way it will catch up to the 2021 DCT N, not a chance. The N is fast, really fast, each upshift rockets you forward and it just keeps pulling. The regular automatic mode is the best I've ever driven, it shifts like you're using the paddles. I traded my GLI and bought an N today.

    • @khronin
      @khronin Před 2 lety

      I just got a Kona N and the DCT is as good as the ones in 100k cars.I think in a tech manual it matches the shift times of the dct or dsg in a 2020 ferrari model and shifts as good as an RS5 I have driven.Its a new wet clutch and having owned and driven many cars--hyundais has come a long way.I also had owned a 2020 stinger GT 3.3TT for a while and that ZF 8 speed auto was also fantastic--better then the ones in chargers and benzes.it also auto rev matches when you take turns in it without using the brake and does so with the precision and smoothness of a high end watch.Iv only had it a few days and it is my favorite car i have had.

  • @TheLoopy029
    @TheLoopy029 Před 3 lety +21

    Thank christ theres a channel that talks technical changes instead of saying "feels better"

  • @MrDolphinDives
    @MrDolphinDives Před 3 lety +224

    I watched this video and then 4 hours later had to call my doctor. He said, you've been watching Savage Geese again haven't you?

  • @PianoBlackTrimRep.
    @PianoBlackTrimRep. Před 3 lety +146

    Last time I was this early SavageGeese was still living with his mom and spending every paycheck on upgrading his supercharged BRZ GT86.

  • @Harry-uq9qd
    @Harry-uq9qd Před 3 lety +167

    the boost feature they added to make it feel more like a video game is pretty fun imo.

    • @Bolero6879
      @Bolero6879 Před 3 lety +124

      @Yirlani you need to enjoy life more, have some fun

    • @ctcdarkness
      @ctcdarkness Před 3 lety +42

      @Yirlani calm down bro, a lot of cars nowadays feel more like a video game. People like you need to lighten the fuck yo and stop trying to suck the fun out of everything. Let the man have as he stated in his comment, his own opinion. You say grow up but I can guarantee you’re some teenager trying to act all big on the internet 😂 but good one bud. Lighten up and don’t take everything so hard, it’s not a dick. It was an observation.

    • @BaldKiwi117
      @BaldKiwi117 Před 3 lety +31

      @Yirlani lol how miserable must your life be?

    • @weilandcock
      @weilandcock Před 3 lety +55

      @Yirlani how the hell is enjoying an overboost feature parallel to your theory of men lol. I am genuinely shocked that people like you function well enough to use the internet.

    • @wizzy25
      @wizzy25 Před 3 lety +23

      @Yirlani I just threw up in my mouth after reading your comment

  • @xuimod
    @xuimod Před 3 lety +135

    Wow, you guys seriously need 1M+ subs. The insight and knowledge you guys go into as far as driving dynamics is unmatched. The closest I can think is the Best Motoring videos from Japan but that's in a different language and a lot of their videos don't have English subs.
    And I love how you guys are able to talk about things seriously (too many car reviewers act like cartoon characters 100% of the time). The level of detail you guys go into (with the driving experience to back it up) is ridiculous in a good way. Thank you!

    • @isaacsanchez8658
      @isaacsanchez8658 Před 3 lety +8

      SG is heavily slept on.

    • @jetrep
      @jetrep Před 3 lety +4

      I agree. I've been watching the SG videos for so long now I've grown accustomed to it and almost expect it but go watch nearly all other channels then you truly appreciate how great these videos are and how much work these guys put into them.

    • @topperharley8322
      @topperharley8322 Před 3 lety +7

      Feel it's more important that every subscriber they do have watch the videos and allow the ads to play or support on patreon. No point in having a million subs but not having useful revenues.

    • @benoit.b9337
      @benoit.b9337 Před 3 lety +2

      @@topperharley8322 I second this, the ads provide a small form of revenue to support the hard work.

    • @UseYourrNoodle
      @UseYourrNoodle Před 3 lety +1

      You should check out JDM Masters. They’ve got some good in depth looks at some classic JDM cars, in English too.

  • @jax1079
    @jax1079 Před 3 lety +110

    Was so incredibly impressed by this car when I had it a few months ago. I just love its vibe and its exuberance. The fact that it exists is a positive for enthusiasts. Excellent review as always. 👍🏻

  • @Poorschedriver
    @Poorschedriver Před rokem +2

    All the praise you offered the DCT is exactly where Subaru went wrong. I applaud any manufafturer that keeps 3 pedals, but Subaru has made a critical error not developing a DCT for the WRX/STi. The VN is seriously the performance bargain of the century, it's like a cheat code IRL.

  • @xray111xxx
    @xray111xxx Před 3 lety +83

    Now Hyundai is getting respect. When a GTi and Type R are in the conversation, that means this is not a garbage rattle box we knew from not such a distant time. Hyundai/Kia have worked hard to put themselves on the map as cars you want. And yeah, I really want this car. Purity of form, value, the Type R is wonderful, but the styling is too much. I am not 18 anymore, I was and am a Subaru fan too, but geez Hyundai has gotten on my radar. Also the Genesis G70 was/is a car I can be happy with when the jacked up station wagon craze leaves my system. I love what you guys do. Your production values are always tops. I don't know your camera system and resources, but my oh my I have never seen better. Truly professional. Truly well done.

    • @ThunderGoatz
      @ThunderGoatz Před 3 lety +2

      *falls apart inside 200k kms*

    • @xray111xxx
      @xray111xxx Před 3 lety +5

      @@ThunderGoatz Progress takes time, plus with the purchasing habits changing all the time, 200kms may not be a factor. Plus, there is always leasing so you give it back before the Gremlins happen. Time will get Hyundai and Kia where they need to be. Toyota status? I don't know, but at least they are going in the right direction.

    • @00J3553
      @00J3553 Před 3 lety +11

      @@xray111xxx Hyundai warranty is one of the best right now. People used to say the same thing about Toyotas years ago that they are junk and will fall apart. My last Elantra had over 350000km on it and ran like it was brand new.

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 Před 3 lety +11

      @@ThunderGoatz Oh, right, that old, old line. Hyundais are modern cars built pretty much like any others. There is no reason whatsoever to think they'll fall apart. Cars don't do that anymore.

    • @bobbyaustralia8509
      @bobbyaustralia8509 Před 3 lety +12

      It’s been obvious for a few years that Hyundai/Kia has been competing with Volkswagen head-to-head (car-to-car) and I wouldn’t have believed it ten years ago had I been told of their success against the German giant, today. Hyundai is no longer just “killing fwd” in their own right, they’re straight murdering Volkswagen.

  • @noobpower1996
    @noobpower1996 Před 3 lety +26

    This video and the 2021 rework made me pull the trigger. just got back from my local dealer and got a Veloster N in performance blue with the DCT. Thanks SavageGeese.

  • @dhtm3577
    @dhtm3577 Před 3 lety +33

    My son just got a 2020 N Manual (almost new). I’m old, but love racing cars. I never owned one. We rented several cars to 1) teach clutch, and 2) compare speed, handling, etc. C7 Z51, Polaris Singshot, 370z, WRX, Miata RF.
    I loved the Corvette. More power than I’m able to control on a road, but great and scary- if you got $$. 370z had good acceleration, and good handling, but not like a Miata (also decade old design). The Miata was just too damn slow! Polaris was a blast but not super fast and impractical for daily driving. WRX is a good car, but I hated the turbo lag. Then there’s the Veloster N. Never drove one until we test drove and purchased it. Funnest, best handling on back roads at frightening, perfectly planted balls-out speeds. It was the R&T 2020 Performance Car of the Year! It beat out some of the best cars out there!
    I could care less about the interior. It’s functional and comfortable. I don’t need to spend $90k+ for leather and electric, heated seats and steering wheels or Bose speakers. It kicks ass and is an absolute rocket that you aren’t afraid of sliding off the road. Great review guys!! Thanks 🙏

  • @tx4runner459
    @tx4runner459 Před 3 lety +102

    Lol the Gangnam style on the Apple CarPlay was too comedic. Y’all are too good lol

  • @sky-ih9cu
    @sky-ih9cu Před 2 lety +3

    I have this car in PB and love it!!! One of the most fun cars I have ever driven.. I think Hyundai did a great job with the performance and fun factor of this car for 35K..well that's the price when I bought it in January 2021..

  • @stephenhendricks103
    @stephenhendricks103 Před 3 lety +2

    Three time GTI owner here. But I've also owned two KIA Sorentos so I don't have an unfounded prejudice against Korean vehicles. When the Veloster N was introduced I thought it was an appealing track toy but little else. The upgrades including what is apparently a vastly improved Hyundai DCT have reduced the distance between the Veloster N and the GTI but I'd still stick with my GTI.
    Reasons? It's inside where I spend my time interacting with a vehicle and the interior features and trim of my Autobahn GTI are far more appealing than the Veloster. The "N" still looks and feels like an econobox from the driver's seat. Secondly, the external appearance of the "N" doesn't quite match the inflated Hot Wheels looks of the Civic Type R but it comes close. And I'm not 12 years old. Finally, among the features of the GTI I value most is its versatility in terms of its mission. When needed the generous and highly usable cargo space of the GTI comes close to or exceeds that of the Veloster and even subcompact SUVs its size. And while the unique 3rd door of the Veloster makes the rear seat more accessible than would be the case with a 2 door coupe, the GTI does it one better with four doors.
    I'm impressed by the specs of the Veloster's engine but I've long ago learned that (a) VW's engine specs for its remarkable EA888 engine are typically understated and (b) major increases in both HP and torque can be had with a 30 minute Stage I tune of the GTI's ECU. (Contrary to a common misunderstanding such a tune does not invalidate the GTI's warranty.)
    All in all, Mr. Biermann and his associates continue to do an outstanding job on Hyundai and KIA vehicles. But I wouldn't give up my GTI for a Veloster N.

    • @MyMusiKfaVorite
      @MyMusiKfaVorite Před 3 lety

      hence, GTI is more of all arounder for sure

    • @MyerShift7
      @MyerShift7 Před 3 lety

      Don't forget all the carbon buildup and generally frail mechanicals and excessive plastics in the VW engines.

    • @stephenhendricks103
      @stephenhendricks103 Před 3 lety

      @@MyerShift7 Old wives' tales and internet nonsense. Over the course of owning 3 GTI's I've never experienced ANY of those issues.

  • @darylaarons6625
    @darylaarons6625 Před 3 lety +18

    If Hyundai keeps improving their vehicles at the current rate, it’s not out of the question that I may own one in the future. It’s still a hard pill to swallow for a guy who grew up when the Hyundai Pony was introduced. Keep it up Hyundai.

    • @bobbyaustralia8509
      @bobbyaustralia8509 Před 3 lety

      It’s been obvious for a few years that Hyundai/Kia has been competing with Volkswagen head-to-head (car-to-car) and I wouldn’t have believed it ten years ago had I been told of their success against the German giant, today. Hyundai is no longer just “killing ecnonowheel drive” in their own right, they’re straight murdering the king of it.
      Unfortunately, fwd pricing is insane and i wouldn’t say the veloster is several thousand dollars better than a gti or si

    • @kiwan5425
      @kiwan5425 Před 2 lety +2

      Remember how Samsung and LG wiped out Japanese electronic giants?

  • @hotdogy12345
    @hotdogy12345 Před 3 lety +8

    I'm a manual guy all the way. I have a Manual Veloster R Spec and I absolutely love it... But DAMN this DCT looks amazing!!

  • @drumflip1253
    @drumflip1253 Před 2 lety +16

    Own a 2021 DCT. Always loved hot hatches owned several GTI’s, 2 mazdaspeed3, civic and a AMG GLA 45. This car is my favorite, performance, fun, exhaust is fantastic and the ability to adjust everything easily is amazing for $33,500. Oh and 0-60 in 4.8 ain’t bad either.

    • @drumflip1253
      @drumflip1253 Před 2 lety

      @@Guy_on_CZcams I bought mine used. Got lucky, it has 1600 miles on it and got it for $31,998. I actually ended up selling it for more when I traded it in for a Kona N recently. It’s a strange market. But with the warranty Hyundai has I recommend buying used for less than dealer mark ups on new ones.

    • @BikesandBriar
      @BikesandBriar Před 2 lety

      @@drumflip1253 crazy enough, the dealers are marking up the used ones too. At least here in California.

    • @drumflip1253
      @drumflip1253 Před 2 lety

      @@BikesandBriar I’m in SoCal and in vista they have a used one from $37,800 pretty crazy it’s more than a new one.

    • @pnwdweler4100
      @pnwdweler4100 Před 2 lety

      @@Guy_on_CZcams just bought one for MSRP in Gresham, Oregon. Paid just over $33K for a manual version. They wanted $2k over MSRP, but some hard negotiating got them to bring down the price.

    • @khronin
      @khronin Před 2 lety +1

      @@drumflip1253 I also just got a kona N.I had a 2020 Stinger and it also shot up in value.I own my kona N and was able to pocket 10k.I actually wanted an AMG Gla 45 when i got my Stinger--but at over 60k i just decided to get a stinger.The set DCT in the Kona is one of the best trannies on any car under 70k--I think in a tech manual it is shifting as fast as one in a 2020 ferrari.

  • @MrMortadella1
    @MrMortadella1 Před 3 lety +23

    “There’s so much harmonic distortion, there’s such a lack of clarity and it’s very bass heavy”
    SG unwittingly describing the music industry since the mid 90s. Or maybe wittingly and he’s what we all suspected all along. A cultural icon that we never asked for but desperately need.

    • @aceofspades6667
      @aceofspades6667 Před 3 lety

      hey man I like to hear my auto-tune distortion free ;-)

    • @darylaarons6625
      @darylaarons6625 Před 3 lety +1

      Sadly, in this age of electronically produced music, a lot of people don’t know what music is supposed to sound like. Some will think it sounds good just because it has enough bass to rattle the windows.

    • @MrMortadella1
      @MrMortadella1 Před 3 lety

      @@darylaarons6625 agreed. Heavy bass for home theater movies?-fantastic. For actual music? Uhhh...no except when used to further disguise some of the crap and redundancy that’s being churned out as music these days.

    • @12ealDealOfficial
      @12ealDealOfficial Před 3 lety

      *Mainstream* music has sucked for about that long, I agree. I thought this was a phenomenon of the last twelve years specifically, but I was playing a Burnout game with licensed music in it from the mid '00s, and every track but two was bland, studio garbage.
      With time, the actual decent to good stuff that the labels ignore will be more commonly associated with this era. My money's on Dirty Loops, Twin Shadow, and Caleb Hawley.

  • @abcdLeeXY
    @abcdLeeXY Před 3 lety +40

    When the geese videos are 15+ mins we are in for a treat.

    • @benoit.b9337
      @benoit.b9337 Před 3 lety +4

      They can make 20 min reviews a thing. Every car they review becomes so interesting to watch and to listen about.

    • @lfox02
      @lfox02 Před 3 lety +2

      @@benoit.b9337 Oh, even the hour long ones. It's just excellent.

    • @fuhrerhosty
      @fuhrerhosty Před 3 lety +1

      I always cheer a little when I see a new SG review pop up that is significantly longer than 10 minutes. When it's nearing or over 30 minutes I'm nearing the ecstasy feeling.

    • @lfox02
      @lfox02 Před 3 lety

      @@fuhrerhosty It honestly makes my day

  • @xsaver23
    @xsaver23 Před 3 lety +15

    I didnt wait long enough, I got one last monday. Great review. Car has been amazing

  • @REVlogue
    @REVlogue Před 3 lety +6

    i have been dying for you to do a review on the DCT version since you're one of the few outlets that would have an honest unbiased opinion! thanks.

  • @TTGamingTrinh
    @TTGamingTrinh Před 2 lety +8

    Im happy with my gti purchased but i had a chance to drive the dct veloster N and it is real fun. Especially the exhaust noise. What swayed me to the gti was the comfort and interior. It’s my daily so it had to hit all of those points

  • @aquaisuseful682
    @aquaisuseful682 Před 3 lety +12

    I love my N DCT. Its just perfect for me. I love your video! Best Decision I’ve ever made

    • @Wvlfmane
      @Wvlfmane Před 2 lety +1

      Yup I just got a Blue ‘21 DCT, I absolutely love it.

  • @NGMonocrom
    @NGMonocrom Před 2 lety +1

    Had to sub. to your channel. It's the only independent car channel on CZcams that doesn't frickin' lie to me in the reviews!

  • @yuolo9979
    @yuolo9979 Před 3 lety +3

    It's because of this video that I got the Red 2021 Veloster N DCT! Thank you SG you guys have done such a great job with this vid that it convinced me to actually by this car! No regrets thank you thank you!

  • @Mgoblagulkablong
    @Mgoblagulkablong Před 3 lety +25

    People who want a nicer interior can soon get the new Elantra N, already looking forward to your review.

  • @oghi
    @oghi Před 3 lety +5

    I'm from Europe and I'm waiting for the I30n 2022 with the dual clutch. Thank you for your time and energy to make these videos.

  • @aoamchart
    @aoamchart Před 3 lety +14

    The better GTI would have been the i30N (Elantra GT N), but we aren't getting it at this point. The US market is so obsessed with crap that doesn't matter, so we get the Veloster. I've got the normal Elantra GT as my daily beater, and I love the thing. The N version reminds me of the Mazdaspeed3.

    • @phillipwagner6964
      @phillipwagner6964 Před 3 lety +4

      I guarantee Hyundai would have sold way more i30N’s in North America in place of the veloster. That’s what kept me from getting an N.

    • @johnnymichael1804
      @johnnymichael1804 Před 3 lety

      The i30N sportback is SO damn sexy! I would gladly trade this for that.

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 Před 3 lety

      We also have an ordinary Elantra GT, and respect its abilities as an everyday car. The N would be a fun extension if that practicality.

  • @Mgoblagulkablong
    @Mgoblagulkablong Před 3 lety +100

    that audio description XD

    • @OnTheRocks71
      @OnTheRocks71 Před 3 lety

      @Scott Myers Also if you stream music from a phone, check to see if your phone has an adjustable EQ. I've had a few lease cars with truly terrible radios but can fine tune the audio on my phone to get some surprisingly good results. My Fusion has a "Premium 210 watt 11 speaker" audio system and it's mostly garbage UNLESS I'm streaming audio from my smartphone.

    • @PacoRobbins
      @PacoRobbins Před 3 lety

      @Scott Myers been thinking about doing that with mine down the road. I've got an annoying rattle from the passenger side speaker that's there at pretty much any volume above 6-7. For what it is, I can't complain. I enjoy it. It's about on par with the Bose system that was in my Speed3.

  • @117twarner
    @117twarner Před 3 lety +5

    Bought a blue DCT fresh off truck, love every second in it

  • @jeffc1347
    @jeffc1347 Před 3 lety +14

    Just bought an Ioniq and I love it. Used to do valet and I loved the Veloster those things are so much fun, no doubt in my mind Hyundai/Kia make the best cars for the money these days. They have excellent warranties as well.

    • @aeromotive2
      @aeromotive2 Před 3 lety

      some niggling problems on my kia forte gt though, barely used.. i dunno if its just mine or wider quality issues. Had a honda civic sport touring (which I didnt love) never had a single problem

  • @DugEphresh
    @DugEphresh Před 2 lety +1

    Seriously tired of hearing these review hacks complain (blah blah blah) cheap plastic interior. This material is a low-cost weight reduction design. Instead of crying about it all the time please provide your solution to cost vs weight. I love reviews that actually give solutions to the problems that are constantly an issue.
    This is a really amazing technical review and the best one I have found to justify an actual purchase for the technology and warranty!!!!!!!!!!!
    Keep up the great work My Geese and Pipes!

  • @rafaelcordoba13
    @rafaelcordoba13 Před 3 lety +51

    On this channel, I press like before I press play!

  • @basithph8958
    @basithph8958 Před 3 lety +41

    As much as I would always go for the manual for cars like the Veloster N, the DCT is a huge improvement for Hyundai/Kia especially compared to the past DCTs they had in their cars
    And also they put the right setup for the gear lever like how it should have been in the beginning especially how a manual gear works and how it follows the momentum of the car Porsche also got it right with the PDK too

    • @Mr.Thermistor7228
      @Mr.Thermistor7228 Před 2 lety +1

      same man, every car ive owned has been manual, this would change that cause i definitely get the dual clutch its just too good to not get imo

    • @gustavogo2915
      @gustavogo2915 Před rokem

      @@Mr.Thermistor7228 did you get this car? I got another manual five months ago. 2022 WRX Premium

  • @surferbone82
    @surferbone82 Před 3 lety +3

    Great review. I drive a manual, but I appreciate Hyundai's efforts in developing a DCT in-house that improves performance and makes the car more accessible to more people.
    I also find it interesting that folks consider a $34k hot hatch "affordable". With a household median income of $61k a year in the US, I feel like we're setting expectations a little high and encouraging people to buy cars they can't afford by labeling it as "affordable".
    Believe me when I say I've been on car forums where someone's asked if it's a bad decision to trade in a car that they still owe $12k with no equity for a brand NEW "affordable" $28k car.

  • @Parker53151
    @Parker53151 Před 3 lety +14

    Nice to see that the croplands are greening up. SG really needs to add some reviews of John Deere tractors.

  • @johnnymichael1804
    @johnnymichael1804 Před 3 lety +26

    This has Albert Biermanns handy work all over it.

  • @toddstevens8506
    @toddstevens8506 Před 3 lety +1

    Great review. Fun car for those folks who live out in the country but probably not the best hot hatch for the other 75ish% percent of us that live in urban/suburban environments.
    Btw, after watching for a couple years, I think this is the best car channel available now.

  • @BigGroupHug
    @BigGroupHug Před 3 lety +5

    All of this work, on a Dell?

  • @RSKev
    @RSKev Před 3 lety +14

    I met jack the other day and he had the red veloster, wanted to say cool car until I saw who it was😂

  • @jonathanpeterson1
    @jonathanpeterson1 Před 3 lety +1

    Everyone making good hot hatches is a good thing. Nobody can rest on their success, everyone has to keep pushing to make their hatch better. Still love my MKV GTI though.

    • @bobbyaustralia8509
      @bobbyaustralia8509 Před 3 lety +1

      t’s been obvious for a few years that Hyundai/Kia has been competing with Volkswagen head-to-head (car-to-car) and I wouldn’t have believed it ten years ago had I been told of their success against the German giant, today. Hyundai is no longer just “killing ecnonowheel drive” in their own right, they’re straight murdering the king of it.
      Unfortunately, fwd pricing is insane and i wouldn’t say the veloster is several thousand dollars better than a gti or si

  • @Tysonator1981
    @Tysonator1981 Před 3 lety +10

    Great review again! I had a 2013 Focus ST and It was unbearable to drive on the street for more than 30 minutes. I bought it brand new and sold it a year later. Loved the twitchyness of it, but hated daily driving it. I love the honesty of your reviews. Keep it up! 👍👍👍

    • @guenthersteiner8163
      @guenthersteiner8163 Před 3 lety +1

      Why was it unbearable, the stiffness?

    • @Xenon0000000000001
      @Xenon0000000000001 Před 3 lety

      I had a 2015 Focus ST for 4 years and always thought the ride was quite compliant. The A35 that I've got now has much stiffer suspension.

    • @Tysonator1981
      @Tysonator1981 Před 3 lety

      @@guenthersteiner8163 yes very stiff suspension and unforgiving seats. Which is fine if you want to rip it up, but not everyday all the time

  • @OnlyLivedOnce
    @OnlyLivedOnce Před 3 lety

    I went from an 2011 Mini Cooper Clubman to a 2016 Cooper S Countryman, both 6speed. Live north of Tampa where the steepest speedbumps aren't marked so I'm happy for the extra 3inches all around, being able to fit a stroller in back as well. Those "Fun to drive Countryman'" were phased out after 2016.
    Next car will be a used Bronco base or a used Quadrifoglio of some sort.
    I'm definitely a sports car guy who never has bias toward any sport.
    This seems like a worthy car for my son in ten or so years! Another great video. Thanks guys.

  • @MrTuberguy9
    @MrTuberguy9 Před 2 lety +3

    Great review from these guys, as always! Have driven both the Type R and the updated Veloster N. My two cents: Type R had staggering amounts of turn in, precision, road feel. On the track or if you want to log best numbers, that's the bomb. But the Veloster N DCT was even more fun to drive. The power was smoother, more predictable. The steering and road feel are sublime. Between these cars, it's a matter of preference, they're both incredibly good and both more fun than cars costing A LOT more that I've driven. The GTI is a great option if you don't mind numbing the driving experience a bit and need this to be your DD commuter car. The 2015 + and 2022 WRX is a great option if you need AWD and want total practicality and bang for the buck with in a very competent package. I drove a WRX with Michilin Pilots and was blown away by how fast it could move through familiar corners. The WRX and it will hold up against a lot of competition. But the most fun to drive of all of these overall, to me, was the Veloster N. Only bummer is that there aren't more of these kinds of cars around. All of them VERY capable and entertaining. Having driven all the cars mentioned, hope this helps with decision between them. They're all great, just different flavors.

    • @khronin
      @khronin Před 2 lety

      In 2020 I got a Stinger GT 3.3TT AWD instead of a Type R--the Type R had to be revved to get any speed while my Stinger felt like a NA V8 Muscle car.I also wanted a decent stock drag car to goto public drag and the stinger did not dissapoint.I aslo put geomet cross drilled and vented rotors on all 4s for road courses but the Stinger skyrocketed in price and i sold it--had a Mazda Cx-30 turbo for the last 6 months and just traded it dead even--had to pay 1k in taxes--and got a brand new 0 mile red kona N.I was actually able to pocket a little over 10k (after all is said and done) and although i do not have the stinger--I own my Kona N and have an extra 10k in my car bank account.The Kona N also has a lot of torque down low and it revs more then the stinger--but not like a Type R.I also will prob never get a car that sits low again now that they make sport CUV/small SUV--my stingers door sills and front skirts were so low that they were nicked and dinged--and even noticeably so after public drag night with rubber bouncing off the low skirts and door.

  • @MegaHusseinhussein
    @MegaHusseinhussein Před 3 lety +1

    I bought the elantra n line, i was super impressed with speed of the shifting and fun daily driver!!!.

  • @Snickerguy19
    @Snickerguy19 Před 3 lety +14

    I don't know how you reviewed this car and didn't mention that beautiful exhaust! The sound is amazing! How do they make this 4 banger sound so great but the twin turbo V6 Stinger sounds like a vacuum cleaner??

    • @savagegeese
      @savagegeese  Před 3 lety +7

      We covered it more on original video. In person it sounds more tin can like unfortunately

    • @frf1670
      @frf1670 Před 3 lety +10

      @@savagegeese the DCT has a quieter exhaust than the Manual variant. Hyundai used different designs for the mufflers. Lots of DCT owners in Korea are switching over to the manual axleback. All this needs is a resonator delete to open up the sound.

  • @lucagattoni-celli1377
    @lucagattoni-celli1377 Před 3 lety

    I started watching SavageGeese and my car enthusiasm turned into car obsession, giving me even less to talk about with most other people. Now I cannot look at a car without thinking about its suspension components. I see stamped steel everywhere. Thank you, Messers. Goose!

  • @a_funyun
    @a_funyun Před 3 lety +51

    Subscribing to savagegeese has left me with a feeling of uncontrollable power I've previously only felt after activating my almonds.

  • @aono335
    @aono335 Před 3 lety +2

    Get the veloster while you can. It's one of the last few of its kind and absolutely the best in its segment for driving. I cannot believe that these things are dying but I hold out that it stays around just a bit longer.

  • @Vazztudio
    @Vazztudio Před 3 lety +7

    Can anyone imagine a veloster N "R" with the corporate 2.5T tuneup for performance, awd, with a hardcore adjustable suspension and a much better selection of materials for the interior?
    This would definitely would place the veloster with the golf R and Honda type R

    • @Booshka823
      @Booshka823 Před 3 lety +1

      ...and be $50-60K easily.

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 Před 3 lety

      They could possibly drop in the 2.5T for not too much more, but AWD would take major modifications, a hardcore suspension would have few takers and be too expensive, and a big upgrade of the interior would be tricky. The Veloster still has to sell in regular form as a cheap hatch, so the normal interior can't be upgraded significantly, and having to swap out major parts of the doors of dash for soft-touch materials would cost too much. The Civic already had a nice interior, so the Type R could get away with a few cosmetic upgrades.

    • @kevinevringham7640
      @kevinevringham7640 Před 2 lety

      @@markmiller3279 There would be wayyyy more than a 'few' takers if the car was AWD.
      Also it wouldn't take 'major modifications.' The fuel tank needs changed to open up a full driveshaft space but there is nothing else in the way.
      Next, Hyundai just needs to collaborate with Mitsubishi again -- the current N engine is a cousin of the 4B11 in the Mitsubishi Evo X. Frankly with not a lot of changes the 4B11 could probably be put in the Veloster N -- giving it one of the best handling and performing AWD systems available.
      Do that and sell the car for 40k -- lines of people would be there to drop their wallets.

  • @themanpreetgill
    @themanpreetgill Před rokem

    This video is the reason I want to buy a GTI one day ❤️. Idk how many times I've come back and re watched this.

  • @SDrever
    @SDrever Před 3 lety +9

    So glad that SG is pro-Veloster N. I nearly bought one last year to replace my ‘10 GTI (then a Camaro SS 1LE came into my life haha)

    • @Booshka823
      @Booshka823 Před 3 lety

      Oddly enough they weren't when it first came out. The title of the old video mentioned "not great, not terrible..." and his review pretty much said it wasn't that good of a car. Did Hyundai leave a horse head in his bed?
      czcams.com/video/DZ376LuY2gs/video.html

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Booshka823 They made dramatic improvements, much nicer than horse heads.

    • @Booshka823
      @Booshka823 Před 3 lety +1

      @@markmiller3279 There are NOT dramatic improvements over the 2019-2020 N. Other than the DCT-stuff (like N-grin), optional seats and the base car now being the old
      performance package everything is exactly the same. The horsehead reference comes from the old Sicilian mafia way of convincing someone to agree with them by leaving a horsehead in your bed...if you continued to "disagree" with them your head was next. Since the first review was "meh" and this review is kind of "wow" I wondered what Hyundai did to change SGs mind.

    • @safarfsaf
      @safarfsaf Před 3 lety +3

      @@Booshka823 I think he just felt he was a bit unfair the first time around. In context of what other cars have done lately, he feels he was too harsh.

  • @_Makanko_
    @_Makanko_ Před 3 lety +2

    That warranty is such a great thing they offer. Interior does look very economy. I think this would have been a great car for me 10 years ago.

    • @aono335
      @aono335 Před 3 lety

      Its a perfect hothatch for me. Everything else is either too expensive or not as fun as this. If you want better interior you gotta look at more expensive cars. And Hot hatches are supposed to be affordable sports cars

  • @koichi.k1161
    @koichi.k1161 Před 3 lety +24

    Looks cool but the GTI is just so effortlessly good looking.

    • @Junesba
      @Junesba Před 3 lety +9

      Agreed. Although, the new MK8 GTI design is a bit questionable...

    • @Krauser1226
      @Krauser1226 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Junesba as a Mk7 2 door owner, agreed. Not sure where their heads were at with the Mk8.

    • @revnto7k
      @revnto7k Před 3 lety

      I have the same opinion. The MK7 and 7.5 GTI's and R's are just so good looking, to me they are still the top choice.

    • @MyerShift7
      @MyerShift7 Před 3 lety

      Not the Mk VIII. It's a nasty cheap pig compared to its predecessors.

    • @bobbyaustralia8509
      @bobbyaustralia8509 Před 3 lety

      It’s been obvious for a few years that Hyundai/Kia has been competing with Volkswagen head-to-head (car-to-car) and I wouldn’t have believed it ten years ago had I been told of their success against the German giant, today. Hyundai is no longer just “killing ecnonowheel drive” in their own right, they’re straight murdering the king of it.
      Unfortunately, fwd pricing is insane and i wouldn’t say the veloster is several thousand dollars better than a gti or si

  • @pvtcmyers87
    @pvtcmyers87 Před 3 lety +2

    Commenting to help out Quinn man she needs to be heard by every soul on the planet.

  • @AarmOZ84
    @AarmOZ84 Před 3 lety +18

    I have driven one of these. It looks like an economy rental car and drives like a BMW. 😁

    • @sky-ih9cu
      @sky-ih9cu Před 2 lety

      I own one..and owned a bimmer before.. that pretty much sums it up..lol....

  • @chriscowan6630
    @chriscowan6630 Před 3 lety +2

    Next level editing off the top...bravo you guys! One of the many reasons why this is one of the best automotive channels on CZcams

  • @blamergamerofficialchannel26

    This video was 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @VanillaWahlberg
    @VanillaWahlberg Před 3 lety +1

    I absolutely love my 2017 Elantra Sport 6MT. The 8-speed DCT they introduced for this car is absolutely beautiful but nothing makes me want to not be able to row. Watching your videos and TheStraightPipes got me into it! Thanks :)

  • @AstreaGT
    @AstreaGT Před 3 lety +10

    I love my GTI but I understand when comparing these 2 cars, in sacrifice of speed you gain a little luxury. You can always tune your GTI a bit to catch up ;) I feel a bit more grown up in a GTI.

    • @janoycresnova9156
      @janoycresnova9156 Před 3 lety +12

      GTI is much more luxurious and practical. It's not even close.

    • @garthly
      @garthly Před 3 lety +6

      Yes, two people can sit in comfort in the back of the GTI.

    • @najminmalcusis15
      @najminmalcusis15 Před 3 lety +4

      The GTI will be MUCH faster than an N once tuned and we are talking about the MK7, now that the MK8 clubsport GTI with 300 HP and a DSG came out, I would never look at the N. Imagine Stage 1 on that clubsport GTI MK8, I would have everything from comfort to practicality to smoking any N on the street.

    • @Booshka823
      @Booshka823 Před 3 lety

      @@najminmalcusis15 Uh...until the N is similarly modified. There are already 400whp with built internal cars prowling the US streets and highways as we speak. Lap3 is one company doing these mods as is Sxth element for milder (~350whp) mods.

    • @najminmalcusis15
      @najminmalcusis15 Před 3 lety +7

      @@Booshka823 here we go again. LOL. Lets teach you a little about tuning. The 400whp Veolester Ns are all on METH while the MK7 will do it on pump. The fastest they could run with that 400WHP N was still in the 12 SECONDS, while the MK7 just broke RECORD FOR 10 seconds on STOCK BLOCK. The N in NO WAY can tune like the MK7 will in any form while the N should in reality be compared to the MK8. The MK8 GTI with a single piggy back is doing the same timing 100-200 of an M3. SPEAK TO ANY TUNER, the way the Ns ENGINE is designed it will NEVER be able to gain as much power as the MK7 platform let alone the MK8 platform
      The second tuning is involved the N will be out of the picture Btw the MK7 platform that came out 8 years ago was doing 400whp by the 2nd year. The sad truth is the N is still far behind.
      I don't understand why people try to argue this, The N was meant for corners, and will ruin any MK7 around the track, it wasn't meant to be for straight line racing, from the gearing ratios to the way the engine puts down power.
      This is what your N made with 50% METH 480BHP Veloster N 2.0T - LAP3 GTX2867 Turbo Upgrade
      The World's most powerful N is back again with 411ps/51.82kgm (405whp/375ft-lbs) on dynojet after 15-20% drivetrain loss. We addressed the stock 2.0T GDI fueling limitation with a WMI system. The customer brought boost juice(50% methanol content) for tuning, and we finalized the mapping just over 400WHP all the way to the redline with peak boost of 24psi. We unlocked the redline to 7200RPM for a broader power band! ( 50% METH) LOL.
      Look at ANY GTI with those SAME MODS and it will be over 500HP AND 440WHP. APR STAGE 2 for mk7 GTI WITHOUT METH OR TURBO UPGRADE gives you 330WHP. Keep trying and crying

  • @oTryHardz
    @oTryHardz Před rokem

    That BMW lead designer moving to Hyundai and helping their road and track team literally is pushing Hyundai to an era where you can't point and laugh. Its crazy.
    Picked up my own 22 N DCT, used as there weren't many options near me, but I love it so much.

  • @user-rd4hp4qi8q
    @user-rd4hp4qi8q Před 3 lety +6

    Another great one. Just love the way Jack & Mark feed off each other and disagree. The visuals are just legendary. Hope to see more Volkswagen reviews.

    • @bobbyaustralia8509
      @bobbyaustralia8509 Před 3 lety

      It’s been obvious for a few years that Hyundai/Kia has been competing with Volkswagen head-to-head (car-to-car) and I wouldn’t have believed it ten years ago had I been told of their success against the German giant, today. Hyundai is no longer just “killing ecnonowheel drive” in their own right, they’re straight murdering the king of it.
      Unfortunately, fwd pricing is insane and i wouldn’t say the veloster is several thousand dollars better than a gti or si

  • @JoJoJoker
    @JoJoJoker Před 3 lety

    It’s nice to see another option for people who like DCTs. This thing has everything one needs in terms of performance hardware and safety features.

  • @domteewhy52
    @domteewhy52 Před 3 lety +7

    That dual clutch is a superb addition. I’m a manual preferred but facing the realities of what the next phases are in drivetrain evolution, this is a pleasant treat. Hoping the reliability (aside from warranty) is above the other dual clutch providers in that segment .

    • @alstound
      @alstound Před 3 lety

      If it’s programmed to shift aggressively, the dual-clutch will have just as much kick as a manual. I was a non-believer myself, till I tested one.

    • @worldofz00
      @worldofz00 Před 3 lety +1

      Next phase for automobiles are EVs.

  • @OnlyTheFinest125
    @OnlyTheFinest125 Před 3 lety +1

    The intro music alone deserves a like

  • @CarsNVideoGames
    @CarsNVideoGames Před 3 lety +4

    I know you've been doing the slide shot at 0:36 for a while, but it is such a cool shot and glad you continue to do it!

  • @JG-ns2jc
    @JG-ns2jc Před 3 lety

    I don't have the DCT, but I do have a 2020 Manual and I absolutely love this car. I've added quite a bit of performance mods and this thing is a beast now.

  • @johnridesadv2512
    @johnridesadv2512 Před 3 lety +13

    I was interrupted in the middle of your video by my mom yelling down into the basement "Johnny, your Arby's is getting cold, come up here and get it while it's still hot". Can life get any better?

    • @ThisGuyRides
      @ThisGuyRides Před 3 lety +5

      You lie, Arby's is never hot

    • @ASH_GTI
      @ASH_GTI Před 3 lety +2

      Life can get way better if it was anything but Arby's

  • @psnmadracer27
    @psnmadracer27 Před 3 lety +2

    When I was looking for a newer, affordable fast hatch it was down to this, the Mazda3T, and the GTI (DSG). Ultimately I went with the GTI because I was tired of waiting for the Veloster N to get its DCT, and the Mazda3 to get its turbo. I'm extremely happy with my choice for its versatility and qualities as a daily driver, as well as the HUGE aftermarket presence for when I'm ready to start modding.
    That being said, both of my alternative choices are cars whose development I've enthusiastically followed for a couple years now, and it's SO great to see the expansion of the hot hatch market again. I like that there aren't really any perfect comparisons against any of the cars in this segment, as they all bring their own elements to the table in ways that distinguish them from the others.
    Edit: I know I have to bring up that the Mazda3T isn't actually a "hot hatch" but by its virtues, it's so close to being one that I don't have a problem calling it as such.

    • @akunamatata4266
      @akunamatata4266 Před 3 lety

      And now I would say for the price Mazda 3 turbo 2.5
      Then veloster N
      Then golf the last
      Personal opinion Mazda turbo 35k cad
      Veloster N 41-43k
      Good gti not the R 45+ K

  • @jefftoonstra5087
    @jefftoonstra5087 Před 3 lety +18

    “I am Quinn” Lolol is that Slip Angle’s Quinn? 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @jamesnicol3831
    @jamesnicol3831 Před 2 lety

    have a Kona N spec coming in mid February this excellent revue was encouraging and informative I am 73 yes old and need the kona platform

  • @chuckcribbs3398
    @chuckcribbs3398 Před 3 lety +7

    This is your best review in awhile. The Veloster N is the king of hot hatches. For the money it’s a great value.

    • @aircommandslipperz
      @aircommandslipperz Před 3 lety +6

      nahh..type r still the king but this is very decent hot hatch too

    • @googleleavemynamealone9145
      @googleleavemynamealone9145 Před 3 lety +6

      @@layne4376 of COURSE the person who thinks that the MK8 R is best would spit out numbers ... lol how naive!

    • @mitchellsteindler
      @mitchellsteindler Před 3 lety +1

      @@layne4376 sorry but...yawn

    • @googleleavemynamealone9145
      @googleleavemynamealone9145 Před 3 lety +2

      @@layne4376 lol sure, but at least I won't have a crisis when my car isn't "fastest in its class" anymore and can fall back on ... Actually being fun ahhaha :P

    • @chuckcribbs3398
      @chuckcribbs3398 Před 3 lety +1

      @@layne4376 For $45k. The N is $33k. And the R will be boring looking. What VW needs to do is give us the GTI Club Sport.

  • @risingwind8943
    @risingwind8943 Před 2 měsíci

    I have a '22 Veloster N DCT. I test drove a Golf R. The golf R is close but not even in the same realm of "racecar". The golf R is too refined and not nearly sharp enough. It is much floatier and doesn't feel as capable, even if it is on paper. The VN has unbelievable handling. Crazy fun. I only wish it had a 2nd N custom mode. That would mean you could have 1 loud for highway driving and 1 quiet for town driving. Since owning this, for some reason, 6 people in honda junkers thought their car was faster. They were not. Why are people in old beaters always trying to race? If the Civic type R wasn't marked up to 45-50k, I would have gotten it, but I am VERY happy with the VN DCT. The way the gears slam you back in your seat leaves me grinning like a fool every time. The shifts are so fast it's ridiculous. Very happy I got one while they were out.

  • @rosgoncharuk2403
    @rosgoncharuk2403 Před 3 lety +24

    Does it come with pre saved Gangnam Style or you ordered that from dealership?

  • @kayakkevin
    @kayakkevin Před 3 lety +1

    Top comment from reddit:
    Looking around local dealers I see the Hyundai Veloster N somewhat as a hard sell. It was smart of Hyundai to include a non-performance package version at launch to get the notion that the cars were much cheaper than competitors or in a middle space between the GTI and Type R. However, looking online now the gap between a Veloster N and Civic Type R is around $3k now. On the lower end, you can get either GLI/GTIs for around $8k less with VW offering 60-72 month loans with 0% APR.
    The bigger issue is that my local Hyundai/Kia dealers are some of the biggest shysters around. I am talking mandatory dealer options and doc fees to the tune of around $1500. Looking at a Kia Stinger was the worst dealership experiances I ever had and their old school profit tatics keeps me from ever considering anything from the brands.

  • @gladdy02
    @gladdy02 Před 3 lety +64

    Cool car, I really hope it sells!

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu Před 3 lety +2

      Hyundai is difficult to sell

    • @dougrobinson8602
      @dougrobinson8602 Před 3 lety +10

      @@dragospahontu Mostly because of the dealer experience. Lots of horror stories out there.

    • @tjk9263
      @tjk9263 Před 3 lety +6

      @@dougrobinson8602 My mother went and bought a brand new Hyundai Palisade and within a month the power window motor blew and they gave her the hardest time about fixing it for free even having bought the warranty which covered it.

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu Před 3 lety +1

      @@dougrobinson8602 ikr

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu Před 3 lety +2

      @@tjk9263 classic Kia/Hyundai

  • @deanmarr785
    @deanmarr785 Před 3 lety +1

    I wish you guys would test a properly modified GTI. VW leaves a blank canvas for the GTI. A tune and rear sway bar makes the GTI a beast.

    • @bobbyaustralia8509
      @bobbyaustralia8509 Před 3 lety +1

      Unfortunately, fwd pricing is insane and i wouldn’t say the veloster is several thousand dollars better than a gti or si

  • @mugensamurai
    @mugensamurai Před 3 lety +6

    Hyundai to Honda: "This is how you're suppose to do a transmission."

    • @KP-xi4bj
      @KP-xi4bj Před 3 lety

      Honda reliability >>>>> Hyundai reliability
      Google "Hyundai/Kia/Genesis fire recalls", recalling cars since 2012 for the same deadly problems.

    • @roostertailspice2482
      @roostertailspice2482 Před 3 lety +6

      @@KP-xi4bj That was almost a decade ago. Hyundais are much better built now. You should google Honda transmission problems from the mid 2000s while you're at it. You're stuck in 2010 land if you're using old news as your source.

    • @KP-xi4bj
      @KP-xi4bj Před 3 lety +1

      @@roostertailspice2482It's laughable you're comparing Honda transmission problems to Hyundais, Kias and Geneses catching fire. It shows just how braindead Hyundai/Kia/Genesis fanboys/-girls are. LMFAO
      Like I said Google "Hyundai/Kia/Genesis fire recalls". They have been recalling cars for fires since 2012.
      Here's an example:
      "Hyundai issued safety recalls (NHTSA IDs: 21V-160 and 21V-161) this month for Model Year 2015-2016 Hyundai Genesis, 2017-2020 Genesis G80 and 2019-2021 Genesis G70 vehicles. The anti-lock brake system modules could malfunction internally and cause an electrical short over time, potentially resulting in an engine compartment fire while parked or driving."
      Source: "Important Hyundai & Genesis Recall in the U.S" by Jose Antonio López (Korean Car Blog, May 14, 2021)

    • @roostertailspice2482
      @roostertailspice2482 Před 3 lety +5

      @@KP-xi4bj Did you just tried to write a paragraph to explain something simple? Nice try you pretentious slob. You seriously think Hyundai is the only company that has parts that might catch on fire? Well that's tough for a blind fanboy like you because Honda does too. They had to recall 1.5 million vehicles for window switches that might catch on fire and cheaply made driveshafts that corrode too quickly. Even Toyota had problems with their hybrid batteries back in the day.
      Nice try but you're delusional.

    • @KP-xi4bj
      @KP-xi4bj Před 3 lety +1

      @@roostertailspice2482 Wow! You Hyundai/Kia/Genesis fanboys/-girls are so desperate picking on recalls for cars that are almost 20 years old. LMFAO
      FYI, Hyunda/Kia/Genesis have been recalling cars for vehicle fires every year since 2012. That's right, brand new 2021 already recalled for vehicle fires. I don't see Honda/Toyota issuing recalls every year for vehicle fires, do you? But carry on denying and keep grasping those straws. LMFAO

  • @24Coup
    @24Coup Před 3 lety

    I love how serious you guys are, 10/10 would buy you both a pint.

  • @thejo6331
    @thejo6331 Před 3 lety +4

    Is is just me or does that paint finish look really not good on camera?

    • @dougrobinson8602
      @dougrobinson8602 Před 3 lety +1

      I thought the same thing. The entire car looked like it had a bad case of orange peel.

    • @savagegeese
      @savagegeese  Před 3 lety +6

      Its not great in person either. Lacks depth.

    • @thejo6331
      @thejo6331 Před 3 lety +1

      @@savagegeese makes sense for a car built to such an aggressive price point

  • @benwnl7101
    @benwnl7101 Před 3 lety +1

    I literally was searching for a review on the dct and you magically just uploaded one an hour ago.

  • @topperharley8322
    @topperharley8322 Před 3 lety +8

    I'll take the Golf, thanks! Awesome video as always.

    • @LearnAboutFlow
      @LearnAboutFlow Před 3 lety +2

      Your mechanic thanks you.

    • @bobbyaustralia8509
      @bobbyaustralia8509 Před 3 lety

      It’s been obvious for a few years that Hyundai/Kia has been competing with Volkswagen head-to-head (car-to-car) and I wouldn’t have believed it ten years ago had I been told of their success against the German giant, today. Hyundai is no longer just “killing ecnonowheel drive” in their own right, they’re straight murdering the king of it.
      Unfortunately, fwd pricing is insane and i wouldn’t say the veloster is several thousand dollars better than a gti or si

  • @davidholomakoff4514
    @davidholomakoff4514 Před 3 lety

    I actually appreciate the audio reviews lol

  • @scotthilly5653
    @scotthilly5653 Před 3 lety +10

    Are you guys gonna do a video that does more in-depth coverage of Jack's GTI? I was hoping this would be a full on comparison. I'm biased as a GTI owner, but would love slightly more coverage - especially after Jack's comment on IG that "I like the GTI less the more I drive it".

    • @spacepxl
      @spacepxl Před 3 lety +4

      That's a good way of putting it I think. I had a base GTI DSG for a couple years, and it was a great car, but perfectly described by the old adage "jack of all trades, master of none". It's a great daily, but not anywhere near as exciting as a real sports car. Everything is light and but with very little feeling. Thing is, I test drove the Veloster N manual when I was selling the GTI, and I expected the veloster to be more edgy and exciting, but it felt very similar, aside from manual vs auto. And the veloster interior frankly makes the GTI feel like an Audi.

    • @scotthilly5653
      @scotthilly5653 Před 3 lety +1

      @@spacepxl it’s funny you say that, cause I thought the exact same. The Veloster was a little more exciting but I felt the diff, brakes, and trans were similar to the GTI. Mine is a 19 SE w/Experience, and the DCC makes the GTI ride amazingly well, the stereo is phenomenal, and it’s just so refined. I’m 22 years old and even felt the trade off for 10% more veloster excitement wasn’t worth it at all with such a bad interior, weird looking car, and stuff ride.

    • @bobbyaustralia8509
      @bobbyaustralia8509 Před 3 lety

      It’s been obvious for a few years that Hyundai/Kia has been competing with Volkswagen head-to-head (car-to-car) and I wouldn’t have believed it ten years ago had I been told of their success against the German giant, today. Hyundai is no longer just “killing ecnonowheel drive” in their own right, they’re straight murdering the king of it.
      Unfortunately, fwd pricing is insane and i wouldn’t say the veloster is several thousand dollars better than a gti or si

  • @juanticimo
    @juanticimo Před 3 lety +1

    man, i have a civic type R on order, but if i didnt, and was into this particular brand more, i would def give that car a look. I hope they sell a boat load of these things.

  • @wildbillclinton2748
    @wildbillclinton2748 Před 3 lety +12

    Great video, will we get a film on the new Golf?

    • @ikbendusan
      @ikbendusan Před 3 lety +4

      he should title it "Volkswagen Golf GTI | A Worse N DCT?"

  • @tommylee4135
    @tommylee4135 Před 3 lety +2

    Can't wait for future N products. Great review!

  • @WilliamLevesqueineX
    @WilliamLevesqueineX Před 3 lety +5

    Bought a 2021 6 speed. The new seats are definitely worth it. Interestingly from a roll its as fast as my buddy's 16' Golf R, so I guess the DCT would be slightly faster.
    Can't wait to take it to the track now, the little I experimented with it on the road it's looking promising.

  • @geraldgoodiii6993
    @geraldgoodiii6993 Před 3 lety +2

    It’s really solid at jail speeds. And if u need to stop from high speed to a stop it’s damn amazing. I have 2020 with the performance pack.. mostly FBO and a tune. It’s amazing. Even stock .. i love it as much. They really could have easily made this thing 300 bhp safely from the factory

  • @Enforcer_WJDE
    @Enforcer_WJDE Před 3 lety +3

    I don't need the radio in my i30 Fastbavk N either. The exhaust is my entertainment and if i need the radio it's "good enough".
    Really looking forward testing the DCT version. Plastics are "cheap" but good bit i didn't buy this car for the interior either just as i didn't buy my Mustang GT back then for it's interior. Both cars are special in their own respect, one offers fun driving for a 4 popper, the other one has a V8.

  • @firstlast-zg9ms
    @firstlast-zg9ms Před 3 lety

    I work at a used car superstore and we got on of these in on a local trade. The exhaust noise and driving impression were fantastic for a Veloster. I definitely would consider this as a hot hatch option.

  • @Dia1Up
    @Dia1Up Před 3 lety +18

    meh, I don't care about a "cheap" interior, if it means no glossy black anywhere

    • @MyerShift7
      @MyerShift7 Před 3 lety +3

      Just give me padded armrests!

    • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
      @rightwingsafetysquad9872 Před 3 lety +2

      As long as cheap looking doesn’t also mean it rattles a lot.

    • @Tiralful
      @Tiralful Před 3 lety +1

      @@rightwingsafetysquad9872 I had a 2013 Veloster Turbo that I sold a month ago with basically the same interior. It rattles like crazy.

  • @emotionz3
    @emotionz3 Před 3 lety +1

    20 years ago you could have never told me Hyundai would be making a hatchback competitive with the Civic Type R and Golf R while Mitsubishi and Nissan wouldn’t be making a hatchback at all. How times have changed.
    I hope this car is successful.

  • @piero914
    @piero914 Před 3 lety +23

    Assuming you can get both for MSRP, would you rather have this Veloster N ($33750) or a Civic Type R ($37,895)?

    • @savagegeese
      @savagegeese  Před 3 lety +53

      The type-r is the far superior car aside from the looks

    • @alstound
      @alstound Před 3 lety +11

      If it’s like a $10,000 difference, then the N makes a great case. $4,000 of upgrades won’t make it close to the Type R.

    • @ryadhasanahmed5443
      @ryadhasanahmed5443 Před 3 lety +3

      Sucks you guys in the U.S. have to deal with stupid Markups as the Type R is reasonably priced at it's MSRP, here in the UK we have don't usually have to deal with this BS with the Type R but however with the GR Yaris the supercar dealers that get their hands on one mark them up, as a Brit I know how Mark ups can be irritating

    • @Harry-uq9qd
      @Harry-uq9qd Před 3 lety +4

      type R because it's larger and in many areas "better", but I wonder if it would be as fun around town considering the veloster has way better sound. i could also just modify the type r for better sound if i wanted

    • @ryadhasanahmed5443
      @ryadhasanahmed5443 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Harry-uq9qd nah, I'm a hard-core Type R fan but making it louder will sound worse, the K20C1 is an amazing engine but doesn't sound that great so it's best to keep it quiet