Whoever told you that your soldering skills were lacking, they're wrong. I'm an electronics tecnician, and I work doing maintenance in medical equipment at the largest hospital in Brazil, and considering my own skills and what I've seen other techs do, you're way above us all in soldering skills, my friend. Your solder jobs are clean, quick, and most important of all, NOT BLOBBY. Don't mind these nitpicky pillocks, they probably wouldn't fair soldering on camera as well as you do. Keep up the good work!
blackcorvo is right, nice shiny joints not over cooked or under cooked,absolutely nothing wrong with your approach, also i have seen standing resistors and diodes quite alot on metal detector circuits and boards(my main interest), like you say its used to try to make the boards smaller.
Who doesn't want to see the assembly? Screw skipping to ~8:30... The assembly is the best part of all of your videos. Especially that Hobby Computer you made. I want more of that. Solder and all :)
+monsterspc 01011101 "Solder" is a modern spelling of the Middle English "souder", which derives from the Old French "soudeur", which itself comes from the Latin "solidare". In the 15th century there was a movement to re-Latinize the spelling of words, and the "L" got added back in to the spelling, although the pronunciation didn't change to include the "L" until sometime later. So there you have it: The reason some countries pronounce it with an "L" and others don't. But they're *both* correct, according to the Merriam-Webster dictionary. So stop being triggered.
Atari could have made a sound card attachment like this for their ST series. It's a pity they didn't, but the YM chip holds up today surprisingly well for good chip music.
I don't understand why everyone likes these Yamaha FM sounds. They all sound plastic or metallic and have no depth whatsoever. The SID already had better sound with it's PWM.
@@dreamyrhodes SID is clearly superior in every aspect compared to ST chip. But ST used a similar 3--channel Yamaha chip as ZX spectrum 128, and not OPL2 (Adlib) or OPL3 (SB16), The AY YM chips are OK. Also worth to check out the price of a SID chip VS a Yamaha chip. One nice AY music: czcams.com/video/os57CXh6COw/video.html Here is a SID chip playing Atari ST music :-) Don't forget there was the same brain behind the two machines, Jack Tramiel. czcams.com/video/pFCxywCtvEI/video.html
There was nothing keeping you from connecting this to your ST. And Atari did have MIDI and the sampling output on the STe. So they had no good reason for this.
@@dreamyrhodesI also generally prefer the SID over these FM sounds, even considering that it has less voices. Perhaps if the Innovation SSI had succeeded and the developers *made proper use of it* (which they did not), we would all be seeing DOS games with good SID music.
this takes me back. my late wife really enjoyed Lemmings on her DOS machine, and the music was a big part of that. You always do great work. This has to be my favorite channel! All good wishes, Sir!
Scott Lee yeah, I have to say I'm really impressed and excited about all the new hardware that hobbyists have been making recently for 30+ year old computers! I never thought that would happen. I've just been looking online and I'm coming across brand new parts that people have made for Commodore and Apple II computers. Even memory upgrades!
The fact that they've made cards that allow Doom to run at acceptable Framerates on a Amiga is even more amazing. I'm pretty sure the Amigas will continue to improve in capabilities over the years. The question is can PCs have the cottage industry to do it also...
I solder medical equipment professionally, and honestly I have seen every soldering technique imaginable. They all result in the same thing, the technique makes no real difference. You solder just fine, clean results and no residue scattered all over the place. Heck, I commit the worst soldering "sin", I put solder on the iron and use that to solder the component, easily done single handedly so I can use my other hand to hold the component. When having to make 200+ battery packs, every time saving technique is a win.
It makes no sense as I thought most Americans also pronounce it as "sodder". I'm from Michigan and the "L" is still silent. I think Brits say with the "L".
Brits say it with the L. They claim the rest of us in North America cannot speak English. When really...the Brits were the reason this country speaks English....if anything. Spain had their way. This landmass (North, Central and South) mostly would have been speaking Spanish natively.
Jake S. Del Mastro yup, I have never in my life heard anyone pronounce the L. And I've lived in two different states, Illinois and California, and you can imagine how different pronunciation is in the midwest. But I have always heard everyone pronounce it as "sodder."
He learned the way I did - I got a soldering iron as a gift from my dad at like 8 or something. First thing I did was burn my carpet, then myself, then use it to make holes in plastic (to fit components) - Seconded, I'm not a pro myself but I've seen far shittier work on commercial products (cheap ones) from China.
The reason he's criticized is that less-than-proper soldering technique can sometimes damage the parts or just lead to many more cold solder joints. Critics just looking out for his parts!
first cut the legs, then solder. Cutting force stress on the legs and deduct heat from the iron. since the legs are uneven lenght the also deduct heat unevenly and cause the soldering becoming less uniform due to the syncronisity
I just bough if from you today. I searched for it and it got me to your page! I knew I had to watch the video while I'm wainting for it. Your work is awesome man!
Yammaha still probably make those chips for legacy equipment and keyboards as some still prefer the sound some older equipment make That and older technology tends to be dirt cheap to mass produce anyway
Hanro50 isn't it different for CPUs? I heard Nintendo couldn't use ibm processors for the switch because it would cost more than using arm. I think it was propreity hardware would cost touch I think. If it works that way.
There is no sense in using older CPU architectures for modern applications like video games...Especially video-games since developers don't like cryptic architectures
Dude I love your channel. You've totally gotten me hooked on 8-bit stuff again, particularly the Commodore 64 and Basic. Incoming yet another backyard game dev...
Thank you so much, this was such a soft part of my PC evolution. I didn’t realize there were so many different plug ins/addons with software/hardware. I kept changing PC’s growing up from Beeping speakers or an awesome sound card/Sound Blaster. This is a great comprehensive add on for beautiful music!!! There was more then Orange pictures and beeping noises.
Came accross your channel a couple days ago. I love this kind of stuff. Fixing things. I only wish I had a small fraction of your knowledge. Awesome videos!
Dude... I love your channel and videos (and your taste in music, frankly)! You don’t owe these trolls any apologies, explaination or disclaimer. Your pronunciation of solder is perfectly acceptable and your soldering skills appear to be exceptional IMO. Keep up the good work.
The "trolls" are usually just people that see themselves as being intellectually superior to David and to you and to me as well, and they spend all day browsing the internet looking for people that they are smarter than and letting everyone know about it. There is even a guy that is claiming that David's X16 computer will do more harm than good when it comes to helping kids to learn computers which is false and based on no evidence but interestingly enough the guy just so happens to have a competing product that he designed called Cerberus that he thinks would be a better fit. Imagine that. He's just jealous that someone that he considers to be an inferior "hobbyist" has gained a larger following than him and that he's not looked up to in the community and David is. It's just another socially inept person, which is not an uncommon trait among engineers.
7:49 That "little chip" is actually pretty interesting too. It's a proprietary external digital-to-analog converter. Most Yamaha FM synth chips required specific external DAC chips which made them kind of a pain to work with. More often than not, the lower-end FM synth chips had internal DACs to keep part-counts and costs down. Chips like the YM2612 (Sega Genesis) and the YM2413 (Low end keyboards, MSX) had built-in DACs which made them much easier to work with and much cheaper overall. If you're interested, I've actually created a dedicated Sega Genesis video game music player using a real YM2612 and have made videos of that project on my channel. FM synth is SO cool and I really wish it would make a comeback.
Aidan Lawrence Considering microsoft has somehow declared midi obsolete without actually checking with anyone that makes music... I wouldn't count on old technologies much. XD Though by their nature I suppose FM Synths making a comeback is considerably more plausible than say, CRT displays doing so... Your YM2612 player reminds me of my little troll project to stick a YM2612 in a SNES cartridge and feed the output into the analogue audio input pins... XD That's basically designed entirely to mess with people though... Even if I am mildly curious what the SNES audio amp stages do to a YM2612 (the characteristic sound of the Mega Drive and the wide quality variations between hardware revisions are closely tied to the amplifier stage, rather than just the 2612 itself...)
Dude that project is real cool! I enjoyed listening to some tracks through that. I'm a huge fan of FM synth and of the Genesis sound :) I've captured a couple game soundtracks from original hardware on my channel. Are you well-versed in the different filterings of Genesis audio circuits? My fave are the model 1 motherboard revision VA0 to VA2, followed by the model 1 mobo revision VA3 to VA6.8. The one I use for capture is a model 1 VA2. The EQ is just straight fire on this sound circuit(although the headphone preamp is cranked too high, but this can be fixed). I love hearing "crystal clear" version of the Genesis, but I also like the two sound circuits I mentionned before. They both have great personalities
Woah! This was VERY interesting! My favorie Episode of 8Bit Guy. Couldnt imagine how the software->dirver->soundcard connection works. Thank you 8 Bit Guy!
I really like your new intro Jingle. It reminds me of being a kid, when everything was new and exciting. Going with my granny to the mall and being care free. Ha ha that's just the way it makes me feel. Thanks!
NeverLock loader spotted :D This is a very neat device. Also with those stand up resistors it looks a bit like a small city on that PCB - first thing that came to mind. Go Belgium!
AMAZING video, man. Thanks for this. :) BTW, I never knew the Adlib could play digital sounds that well. I was impressed with Pinball Fantasies there. When I was a kid, I got a Sound Blaster 16 card as soon as it came out, and before that, I only had PC Speaker (Adlib cards were hard to find here in Brazil, and VERY expensive...). I always liked how good Adlib music sounds, BTW. Even nowdays, I'm a huge fan of Adlib.
Thanks so much for this video. So glad these are coming back. It is easy to forget that these soundcards, old or new, were musical instruments in themselves. In '92ish I got an original SB, 8 bit version. -- mostly on a dare. Until then I was using all those pesky moogs and roland things via midi... and I just LOVED It. It was crunchy and unique, and a welcome addition to the studio. I have this and an original mt32, and I must say, I also prefer the opl2. When a song is actually composed and designed for the opl2 it sounds way better than these other instruments, if only by virtue of the design. Unlike the sampled things like mt32, the fm and sid's also had control codes that modulated in real time. And the opl percussion sounds were never the exactly the same twice. Have a listen to the original Dune game - on opl vs mt32. Same with a game called "Hyperspeed". Both sound great, but personally I found so much more character in the opl version of the music. See also : the original Jill of the jungles and early KQ. That said, the later King's quest sound tracks were written for the mt32 then later again for GM, so those start to gound a bit silly on opl.
I don't see anything strange with that. People study history but don't often have any interest in actually participating in historical battle recreations. They just find it interesting.
Forthwith Tx It just means you have a casual interest in it, but not quite "into it" enough to invest a lot of time and money collecting things like this. There's nothing strange about that. It can be an expensive hobby, and it's not for everyone.
Same. I'll watch cooking shows with content I have no intension to try myself, car shows building hotrods I'll never touch,... the list is endless. There's a lot of great viewing pleasure that need not require participation.
Jeff Block yeah, and I think it actually shows a good personality trait...that someone is curious and willing to learn about new things, even if they don't really plan to jump into doing it themselves.
Cool stuff. It’s really good that your work, your channel inspires other people to create devices like that. I remember old times when I wrote some stuff in Borland Pascal to write directly to OPL2 chip on Adlib. Back then I fell like a wizard doing magic ;)
If you can find a Port·able Sound Plus, it gives you AdLib and Sound Blaster emulation via the parallel port, and it supports DOS games: czcams.com/video/t7VxWbCgWHk/video.html And LPT1 actually stands for Line Print(er) Terminal 1, or simply Line Printer 1, not Local Print Terminal. It's a reference to the high-speed printers often used with mainframe computers that would print an entire line of text at once, rather than the single-character print head of a typical daisy wheel or dot matrix printer.
Knew it was perfect as soon as I heard the Ultima 6 intro. I still listen to the key tracks of that game even to this day, both in ad-lib or the snes version (I love that crushed, soft sound...)
Wow - flashback city. Back in around '93 when I was working for Creative Labs, the Port Blaster (parallel port Sound Blaster) release was cancelled because it turned out not all laptop parallel ports provided power. Major embarrassment and R+D fail!
How far did it get into development? MediaVision did something extremely similar which made it to the market. Just like a combination of the OPL2LPT + Covox basically is a Soundblaster ... albeit the later requiring a lot more CPU juice when playing digital sound.
@@1337Shockwav3 I suppose that does make sense. But if that's the case, then I find it strange that Creative Labs didn't think to add external power to the Port Blaster.
@@Some-guy-on-the-internet *shrug* no idea ... a good thoroughly thought through LPT port solution would have been quite a decent product ... but then again, PCMCIA soundcards may have already been on the horizon.
Love watching you solder. I haven't done much of it in recent years. My first love was electronics back in 1979, before I knew much about computers. I used to read a lot about it at the library. I understand what some have said about soldering technique, the proper way does not including touching the iron with the solder but... whatever works for you is the proper way, like programming technique.
Sam Wittsell I have, I think mainly British people, but it is wrong. The L is supposed to be silent as far as I have ever heard in electronics classes and other forums.
Honestly, I've always pronounced it soder, not solder. And not that I'm making fun of Australians and other people that pronounce the H funny, but unlike some of them, I actually pronounce the H right too. For reference, go check out OS First timer, I am pretty sure their Australian.
@@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker In the more correct, British English (and it's late colonies - Canadian and Australian too) it's pronounced with a slight "l" , while in Hamburgerian it's without it. So no it isn't supposed to be silent, unless you are from the land of war.
Oh man,the Lemmings music! When I heard that second song,the memories came flooding back. I've been soldering for like 30 years,and your solder joints look better than some of mine. Don't sweat it.
Eggnog, Cherry Pie, and 8-Bit Guy. What a good night. :) Also, self-teaching is best teaching. Fuck, I taught myself most of what I know about alchemy (never combine argon alkalide and sulphur dioxide in anything NOT made of iron or copper if you value your skin...nor allow your beakers to heat to more than 480 degrees K...)
Here's another soldering tidbit. Don't solder adjacent pins on ICs or sockets. Skip a few, and come back multiple times. Heat can damage ICs, and spacing out the pins soldered lowers overall heat applied to any one spot.
Good advice! I never thought about that. It's one of those things that makes sense in hindsight, though. (Then again, I very seldom soldered ICs. I usually socketed everything, unless the space inside the case was tight.)
I've never heard *anyone* in the United States pronounce the L in _solder._ Ever. I was surprised to learn it's not that way in other countries. But, there are many other letters I do pronounce that (for example) Brits have given up on.
The '$' folder I think loads the directory listing. The implementation of the 'dir' command is kinda wonky on Commodore machines - it had to load the listing from disk and write it to a BASIC program for some reason. It's wonky.
@surfitlive ,8 means the program from device 8 will be loaded into basic memory, ,8,1 means the program will be loaded to the stored location defined by the two first bytes in the file that is being loaded. Which is what you need to properly load a machine code program. ,0 The program will be loaded to the start address of BASIC memory (2049/$0801). ,1 The program will be loaded absolute, namely it is stored to the location defined by the first two bytes in the PRG file image. Typically needed for machine language programs to get properly located into the memory. if you don't do that you'll most likely encounter a ?OUT OF MEMORY ERROR.
I know this is going to sound redundant to 99% of folks but I would LOVE a USB version of this with a VST controller. I'd love to write Dos type music with the opl3 on a modern machine. I know its nuts but there we are!
You could also go with Plouge's Chipsound's VST for a software-only solution. Does not seem to emulate the Yamaha, but it does quite a few other famous sound chips.
I too would love a usb adlib. Of software there is JuceOPLVSTi which is a vst wrapper of dosbox. Dexed, which is a VSTi dx7 emulator also has a OPL mode that simulates the lower end soundchips, but it only has the sine operator. Both of these are free and work cross platform. On the paid side FM8 can also sound very oldschool since it has built in decimation and a lot of classic modulators. All these solutions are purely envelope controlled and you'll have to expose parameters to be controlled by your DAW to get the iconic complex sounds you hear in games where they used lookup tables to switch operator waveform and pitch mid sound.
Thanks for all the replies! Seems its not as crazy as I thought! I must add, I do a lot of music - I have a love for SID stuff. Have some hardware - HardSID4u, old QuadraSID, C64 with Mssiah, SammichSID, SammichFM, Yamaha TG33 and FS1R among others :-) Ive heard of the Plogue synth must look into it. Never thought of dosbox, must look at the JuceOPLvst! Thanks again for the ideas - much appreciated!
Let me know if you ever find a good sequencer. I've tried just using Anvil Studio and importing the file into a MIDI player running in DOSBox, but there must be some code in modern MIDI files that wasn't around in the olden days, because my files always cause the old players to crash.
David, as a Pace certified solder tech I can say your soldering is [edit] more than [/edit] fine! It's much better than most I've seen on CZcams including such names as Ben Heck.
If people talk derisively about your soldering, please ignore them. I enjoy your videos that show how to do this stuff. I especially like that you're self taught. I have the utmost respect for people who love their craft so much that they learn it on their own. I'm self-taught on PC building and repair myself, so I respect it even more. :)
Never said anything about solder, just said that people need to get a life when correcting others pronunciation of words. If you need to correct everyone on how they pronounce a word, your life must be quite boring.
My life's a bit mad, actually. Certainly interesting at times. But while I'm sat here on the computer I have time to waste however I like. Speaking correctly is important. Or we'll all start talking like hillbillies and valley girls, vocabulary will shrink, and eventually speech will be replaced altogether by a system of grunts, farting, and threatening looks. It's also courteous to other people to speak properly. They're lending you their ears, so make the effort of learning how to speak correctly. It's not about sounding posh, or rich. I'm neither. But you can speak properly if you pay attention. There's hundreds of dictionaries on the web, there's several channels on CZcams where somebody pronounces words. The alternative is lazy speaking, not making the effort to learn how to pronounce things properly. Accents are fine and lovely by the way. This isn't about money or race or formal education. Just about making an effort and paying attention to the words that are all around you. Open your mouth and use your tongue and lips with full concentration. But besides all that, how can you pronounce "solder" as "sodder" ? It defies explanation! Is it normal to drop L's in words? Where else?
Different countries have different ways of pronouncing words. It had been this way for hundreds of centuries. Not every country can live to the UK spelling standard. Even Australia has a different way of pronouncing some English words as well as Canada and even India.
Awesome, I always feel some sort of relief when I see all this videos of people showing their passion for these early 90's PC games, I think that was the golden age of computer gaming...
I want to hear what it sounds like when you tell the computer there's a printer connected to the port and try to print.
Likely a short crunching sound but it may get stuck on a note after that.
And on the flip side, connect a printer to that port, run the driver, and then a DOS game.
LOL!!!
Depending on the line protocol, it might make no sound at all and just error out.
Maybe give a beep series to indicate "error"
The one dude was like "Hey dude can I like print 'n shit" and the other dude was like "WHAT?"
Y'all leave his soldering techniques alone. He does a mighty fine job of it.
I see what you did there.
Jason Brubaker Darn straight I struggle to solder pins an inch apart without getting solder all on the board.
It wasn’t until 17 minutes in I questioned why I was even watching this..... I don’t own or have any intention to own any of these things
Same here man... But we're l e a r n i n g !
You are watching it, because it is the 8-Bit Guy, and he produces interesting videos.
Everyone 😅
Me neither, but it's fun to watch and see how its restored
12:30
Many lemmings died to bring you this top quality content.
What a neat device, I’ve been quite enjoying mine! Great to see the assembly process too since I was far too lazy to go for a kit :P
Lazy Game Reviews for $20 more it seems like a good way to go
Lazy Game Reviews You really put the L in LGR!
haha. The name fits Clint!
Omg so lazy
Lazy Game Reviews Lazy is, is lazy does. :)
A 20 minute video all about Parallel Port sound cards?! Time to drop whatever I'm doing and watch!
YESSSSS!!
I'M IN!!
just noticed...
11:44 "I might sound like a heretic..."
nah... this sounds like a Heretic: 18:24
@@aretard7995 no
I was in charge of a hand soldering line for a brief period of my life. Your solder joints look great. The critics are just nitpicking
Whoever told you that your soldering skills were lacking, they're wrong.
I'm an electronics tecnician, and I work doing maintenance in medical equipment at the largest hospital in Brazil, and considering my own skills and what I've seen other techs do, you're way above us all in soldering skills, my friend. Your solder jobs are clean, quick, and most important of all, NOT BLOBBY.
Don't mind these nitpicky pillocks, they probably wouldn't fair soldering on camera as well as you do. Keep up the good work!
blackcorvo Hospital das Clínicas?
blackcorvo is right, nice shiny joints not over cooked or under cooked,absolutely nothing wrong with your approach, also i have seen standing resistors and diodes quite alot on metal detector circuits and boards(my main interest), like you say its used to try to make the boards smaller.
Blackcorvo you br?
Who doesn't want to see the assembly? Screw skipping to ~8:30... The assembly is the best part of all of your videos. Especially that Hobby Computer you made. I want more of that. Solder and all :)
I cannot describe how much more excited I got about this video when I realised there was assembly required! :D
SOD-er TRIGGERED
When I’ve built modded literally hundreds of PCAs it’s definitely not very exciting.
+monsterspc 01011101
"Solder" is a modern spelling of the Middle English "souder", which derives from the Old French "soudeur", which itself comes from the Latin "solidare". In the 15th century there was a movement to re-Latinize the spelling of words, and the "L" got added back in to the spelling, although the pronunciation didn't change to include the "L" until sometime later.
So there you have it: The reason some countries pronounce it with an "L" and others don't. But they're *both* correct, according to the Merriam-Webster dictionary. So stop being triggered.
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Atari could have made a sound card attachment like this for their ST series. It's a pity they didn't, but the YM chip holds up today surprisingly well for good chip music.
I don't understand why everyone likes these Yamaha FM sounds. They all sound plastic or metallic and have no depth whatsoever. The SID already had better sound with it's PWM.
@@dreamyrhodes SID is clearly superior in every aspect compared to ST chip.
But ST used a similar 3--channel Yamaha chip as ZX spectrum 128, and not OPL2 (Adlib) or OPL3 (SB16),
The AY YM chips are OK. Also worth to check out the price of a SID chip VS a Yamaha chip.
One nice AY music:
czcams.com/video/os57CXh6COw/video.html
Here is a SID chip playing Atari ST music :-) Don't forget there was the same brain behind the two machines, Jack Tramiel.
czcams.com/video/pFCxywCtvEI/video.html
There was nothing keeping you from connecting this to your ST. And Atari did have MIDI and the sampling output on the STe. So they had no good reason for this.
@@dreamyrhodesI also generally prefer the SID over these FM sounds, even considering that it has less voices. Perhaps if the Innovation SSI had succeeded and the developers *made proper use of it* (which they did not), we would all be seeing DOS games with good SID music.
this takes me back. my late wife really enjoyed Lemmings on her DOS machine, and the music was a big part of that. You always do great work. This has to be my favorite channel! All good wishes, Sir!
yamaha sound not Ad-Lib Sound scammers scams scam
Its fantastic when David inspires creative folks to built new tools for older machines. Thumps up! :)
Scott Lee yeah, I have to say I'm really impressed and excited about all the new hardware that hobbyists have been making recently for 30+ year old computers! I never thought that would happen. I've just been looking online and I'm coming across brand new parts that people have made for Commodore and Apple II computers. Even memory upgrades!
The fact that they've made cards that allow Doom to run at acceptable Framerates on a Amiga is even more amazing. I'm pretty sure the Amigas will continue to improve in capabilities over the years. The question is can PCs have the cottage industry to do it also...
I solder medical equipment professionally, and honestly I have seen every soldering technique imaginable. They all result in the same thing, the technique makes no real difference. You solder just fine, clean results and no residue scattered all over the place.
Heck, I commit the worst soldering "sin", I put solder on the iron and use that to solder the component, easily done single handedly so I can use my other hand to hold the component. When having to make 200+ battery packs, every time saving technique is a win.
some soldering irons I've seen actually promote single-handed soldering by having a solder-feed.
That's a sin? I thought I had unlocked a pro skill.
Doing that is fine if you apply flux to the joint first, despite what a lot of people say.
I usually have to wet the iron to get any heat to transfer to the part.
@@thegardenofeatin5965 that's totally fine as long as you add fresh solder (and flux) to the joint. It's even recommended in NASA soldering guides.
There are folks who will criticise anybody for anything. Your soldering technique is spot on- from a former professional electronics tech!
I love watching you assemble electronics, it is always so interesting.
Most people I know here in Canada pronounce it "Sodder" as well, so you're not alone on this one.
It makes no sense as I thought most Americans also pronounce it as "sodder". I'm from Michigan and the "L" is still silent. I think Brits say with the "L".
Brits say it with the L. They claim the rest of us in North America cannot speak English. When really...the Brits were the reason this country speaks English....if anything. Spain had their way. This landmass (North, Central and South) mostly would have been speaking Spanish natively.
Jake S. Del Mastro yup, I have never in my life heard anyone pronounce the L. And I've lived in two different states, Illinois and California, and you can imagine how different pronunciation is in the midwest. But I have always heard everyone pronounce it as "sodder."
Qardo That's hilarious considering that British English artificial stopped pronouncing the R to sound closer to Habsburger German.
Well, it is because the Queen of England is German. Does not surprise me.
Nothing wrong with your solder work, I've seen "professionals" do far worse
He learned the way I did - I got a soldering iron as a gift from my dad at like 8 or something. First thing I did was burn my carpet, then myself, then use it to make holes in plastic (to fit components) - Seconded, I'm not a pro myself but I've seen far shittier work on commercial products (cheap ones) from China.
The reason he's criticized is that less-than-proper soldering technique can sometimes damage the parts or just lead to many more cold solder joints. Critics just looking out for his parts!
Especially the ones putting a big blob on the tip, waiting for a bit, and try to smear it on. *shudders*
If it works, it's good solder work imo.
first cut the legs, then solder. Cutting force stress on the legs and deduct heat from the iron. since the legs are uneven lenght the also deduct heat unevenly and cause the soldering becoming less uniform due to the syncronisity
Love these videos. It's awesome to watch assembly and also great to see my favorite old technologies revived!
The music, info and editing in these videos are always great!
Money has been tight and haven’t been able to pay my Directv bill but no worry The 8 Bit Guy to my entertainment rescue.
just drop driectv who the fuck watches tv in 2017 i dumped that shit in 2005
rkotm I’m old school and don’t have the patients for streaming even if I have them all.
Eh take 10mins to learn and save money :)
jerrywh3 DirecTV is at&t fuck them #netneturally
netflix is better *xd*
Great stuff David! Love your videos and the 8bit keys channel too
I just bough if from you today. I searched for it and it got me to your page! I knew I had to watch the video while I'm wainting for it. Your work is awesome man!
This is literally my favourite channel, it calms me and soothes me...keep it up.
Yammaha still probably make those chips for legacy equipment and keyboards as some still prefer the sound some older equipment make
That and older technology tends to be dirt cheap to mass produce anyway
Hanro50 isn't it different for CPUs? I heard Nintendo couldn't use ibm processors for the switch because it would cost more than using arm. I think it was propreity hardware would cost touch I think. If it works that way.
There is no sense in using older CPU architectures for modern applications like video games...Especially video-games since developers don't like cryptic architectures
im loving the longer episodes
Dude I love your channel. You've totally gotten me hooked on 8-bit stuff again, particularly the Commodore 64 and Basic. Incoming yet another backyard game dev...
Thank you so much, this was such a soft part of my PC evolution. I didn’t realize there were so many different plug ins/addons with software/hardware. I kept changing PC’s growing up from Beeping speakers or an awesome sound card/Sound Blaster. This is a great comprehensive add on for beautiful music!!! There was more then Orange pictures and beeping noises.
It's relaxing watching these type of videos. I enjoy them
So true especially in the nights
Sweet another 8-but guy! Keepin retro alive! Cheers and happy holidays!
Danceographic Ocean indeed!!!!
8-but guy?
eight butt guy
Came accross your channel a couple days ago. I love this kind of stuff. Fixing things. I only wish I had a small fraction of your knowledge. Awesome videos!
Thanx so much for your videos. They are life savers when I'm stressed and need a chill pill. You and/or LGR usually save me :)
Warning : A cute kitty was spotted at 18:41 ! :D
DJ Daemonix YES
Wow~ 👍
Bruh
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Thank you for the heads up, glad I won't be caught off guard lol
18:41 CAT!!!
yes a cat :)
It's like a game: Spot the cat ;)
You sir have a good eye.
photobombing is a subtle art at times... XD
Best way to force subscribers to watch videos carefully is to put a hidden cat on every episode. I really missed it :(
Love watching the assembly process. I've done basic soldering for individual components but never fully populated a board before. Good work!
Thanks for one of your better videos to date! This is a very cool device and I'm a bit surprised that no one thought of this during the 90s.
Dude... I love your channel and videos (and your taste in music, frankly)! You don’t owe these trolls any apologies, explaination or disclaimer. Your pronunciation of solder is perfectly acceptable and your soldering skills appear to be exceptional IMO. Keep up the good work.
The "trolls" are usually just people that see themselves as being intellectually superior to David and to you and to me as well, and they spend all day browsing the internet looking for people that they are smarter than and letting everyone know about it. There is even a guy that is claiming that David's X16 computer will do more harm than good when it comes to helping kids to learn computers which is false and based on no evidence but interestingly enough the guy just so happens to have a competing product that he designed called Cerberus that he thinks would be a better fit. Imagine that. He's just jealous that someone that he considers to be an inferior "hobbyist" has gained a larger following than him and that he's not looked up to in the community and David is. It's just another socially inept person, which is not an uncommon trait among engineers.
7:49 That "little chip" is actually pretty interesting too. It's a proprietary external digital-to-analog converter. Most Yamaha FM synth chips required specific external DAC chips which made them kind of a pain to work with. More often than not, the lower-end FM synth chips had internal DACs to keep part-counts and costs down. Chips like the YM2612 (Sega Genesis) and the YM2413 (Low end keyboards, MSX) had built-in DACs which made them much easier to work with and much cheaper overall.
If you're interested, I've actually created a dedicated Sega Genesis video game music player using a real YM2612 and have made videos of that project on my channel. FM synth is SO cool and I really wish it would make a comeback.
Aidan Lawrence Considering microsoft has somehow declared midi obsolete without actually checking with anyone that makes music...
I wouldn't count on old technologies much. XD
Though by their nature I suppose FM Synths making a comeback is considerably more plausible than say, CRT displays doing so...
Your YM2612 player reminds me of my little troll project to stick a YM2612 in a SNES cartridge and feed the output into the analogue audio input pins... XD
That's basically designed entirely to mess with people though...
Even if I am mildly curious what the SNES audio amp stages do to a YM2612
(the characteristic sound of the Mega Drive and the wide quality variations between hardware revisions are closely tied to the amplifier stage, rather than just the 2612 itself...)
Dude that project is real cool! I enjoyed listening to some tracks through that. I'm a huge fan of FM synth and of the Genesis sound :) I've captured a couple game soundtracks from original hardware on my channel. Are you well-versed in the different filterings of Genesis audio circuits? My fave are the model 1 motherboard revision VA0 to VA2, followed by the model 1 mobo revision VA3 to VA6.8. The one I use for capture is a model 1 VA2. The EQ is just straight fire on this sound circuit(although the headphone preamp is cranked too high, but this can be fixed). I love hearing "crystal clear" version of the Genesis, but I also like the two sound circuits I mentionned before. They both have great personalities
Saw your video on reddit. That's pretty cool
That's awesome Aidan!
Aidan Lawrence So it's not working with Intel multiplier firmware crap then 🙄 Maybe i386 on a chip 🤓 that would be the best.
Woah! This was VERY interesting! My favorie Episode of 8Bit Guy. Couldnt imagine how the software->dirver->soundcard connection works. Thank you 8 Bit Guy!
Such a great channel, and great content. Keep it up!
I really like your new intro Jingle. It reminds me of being a kid, when everything was new and exciting. Going with my granny to the mall and being care free. Ha ha that's just the way it makes me feel. Thanks!
NeverLock loader spotted :D
This is a very neat device. Also with those stand up resistors it looks a bit like a small city on that PCB - first thing that came to mind.
Go Belgium!
Your soldering looks fine to me. Probably the best out of all these types of channels I watch.
Another great piece of tech! Love your videos!!
AMAZING video, man. Thanks for this. :)
BTW, I never knew the Adlib could play digital sounds that well. I was impressed with Pinball Fantasies there. When I was a kid, I got a Sound Blaster 16 card as soon as it came out, and before that, I only had PC Speaker (Adlib cards were hard to find here in Brazil, and VERY expensive...). I always liked how good Adlib music sounds, BTW. Even nowdays, I'm a huge fan of Adlib.
Oh man Pinball Fantasy was one of my favorite games! Loved the music, especially the dragon stage.
I find your videos neat, but also very relaxing.
I like your building videos, keep the good work!
Thanks so much for this video. So glad these are coming back. It is easy to forget that these soundcards, old or new, were musical instruments in themselves. In '92ish I got an original SB, 8 bit version. -- mostly on a dare. Until then I was using all those pesky moogs and roland things via midi... and I just LOVED It. It was crunchy and unique, and a welcome addition to the studio. I have this and an original mt32, and I must say, I also prefer the opl2. When a song is actually composed and designed for the opl2 it sounds way better than these other instruments, if only by virtue of the design. Unlike the sampled things like mt32, the fm and sid's also had control codes that modulated in real time. And the opl percussion sounds were never the exactly the same twice. Have a listen to the original Dune game - on opl vs mt32. Same with a game called "Hyperspeed". Both sound great, but personally I found so much more character in the opl version of the music. See also : the original Jill of the jungles and early KQ. That said, the later King's quest sound tracks were written for the mt32 then later again for GM, so those start to gound a bit silly on opl.
Is it weird that I don't own a single old device and have no interest in gaming, in general, and yet I find these videos interesting?
I don't see anything strange with that. People study history but don't often have any interest in actually participating in historical battle recreations. They just find it interesting.
Forthwith Tx It just means you have a casual interest in it, but not quite "into it" enough to invest a lot of time and money collecting things like this. There's nothing strange about that. It can be an expensive hobby, and it's not for everyone.
Same. I'll watch cooking shows with content I have no intension to try myself, car shows building hotrods I'll never touch,... the list is endless. There's a lot of great viewing pleasure that need not require participation.
Jeff Block yeah, and I think it actually shows a good personality trait...that someone is curious and willing to learn about new things, even if they don't really plan to jump into doing it themselves.
Congrats on the successful build!.. Nice camera work, and great description of the build steps. Well done. thanks.
Cool stuff. It’s really good that your work, your channel inspires other people to create devices like that. I remember old times when I wrote some stuff in Borland Pascal to write directly to OPL2 chip on Adlib. Back then I fell like a wizard doing magic ;)
If you can find a Port·able Sound Plus, it gives you AdLib and Sound Blaster emulation via the parallel port, and it supports DOS games: czcams.com/video/t7VxWbCgWHk/video.html
And LPT1 actually stands for Line Print(er) Terminal 1, or simply Line Printer 1, not Local Print Terminal. It's a reference to the high-speed printers often used with mainframe computers that would print an entire line of text at once, rather than the single-character print head of a typical daisy wheel or dot matrix printer.
Dude, I have been into DOS gaming since 1986 and still I didn't know such a thing existed. I am thrilled. BTW, you have a great channel, too.
Watching this at 9:29 I thought "Wow here's a guy who actually knows what a line printe.....errr..... nevermind."
It probably costs allot unlike this thing.
I like all your video VWestlife ! Im a fan
Good to see you, VWestlife!
David's moving up in the world! He's got himself a real-live camera operator!
Neat little device. I just ordered my kit. Can't wait to play with it!
Nice new operator work! Love your production quality!
"if you don't want to watch the assembly, skip forward" whaaat that's what we're here for 😂
Knew it was perfect as soon as I heard the Ultima 6 intro. I still listen to the key tracks of that game even to this day, both in ad-lib or the snes version (I love that crushed, soft sound...)
This was an awesome video! Thanks for walking through building the board 😁😁😁
This is awesome information for one of my neglected projects. Thank you!
Wow - flashback city. Back in around '93 when I was working for Creative Labs, the Port Blaster (parallel port Sound Blaster) release was cancelled because it turned out not all laptop parallel ports provided power. Major embarrassment and R+D fail!
Bruh, I would've been pissed. Who was the idiot that decided parallel ports shouldn't provide power on some computers?
@@Some-guy-on-the-internet Being a general purpose port, providing power isn't exactly a good idea. External power would have been fine tho.
How far did it get into development? MediaVision did something extremely similar which made it to the market. Just like a combination of the OPL2LPT + Covox basically is a Soundblaster ... albeit the later requiring a lot more CPU juice when playing digital sound.
@@1337Shockwav3 I suppose that does make sense. But if that's the case, then I find it strange that Creative Labs didn't think to add external power to the Port Blaster.
@@Some-guy-on-the-internet *shrug* no idea ... a good thoroughly thought through LPT port solution would have been quite a decent product ... but then again, PCMCIA soundcards may have already been on the horizon.
11:20 The hair on my back and arms stood up with euphoria and nostalgia here. Awesome times!!! :)
New vids from both you and Techmoan today on topics I actually care about.
I love how you play U6 music on so many of your videos. So many memories...
Who would want to skip the assembly!? That's my favorite part!
Except when something shorts out or still doesn't work after hours of troubleshooting.
Nice.
But LPT means Line Print Terminal, not "Local". Most things where local those days.
It means Line Print Terminal, Local Print Terminal or Line Printer.
Amazing amazing video! Keep up the good work.
Love watching you solder. I haven't done much of it in recent years. My first love was electronics back in 1979, before I knew much about computers. I used to read a lot about it at the library. I understand what some have said about soldering technique, the proper way does not including touching the iron with the solder but... whatever works for you is the proper way, like programming technique.
I really like that t shirt!
SackKickingFatMan But... is that really a sine wave?!
I live in Colorado and I pronounce "solder" without the L. I've never heard one person pronounce it with an L regardless of where they are.
Sam Wittsell I have, I think mainly British people, but it is wrong. The L is supposed to be silent as far as I have ever heard in electronics classes and other forums.
Honestly, I've always pronounced it soder, not solder. And not that I'm making fun of Australians and other people that pronounce the H funny, but unlike some of them, I actually pronounce the H right too. For reference, go check out OS First timer, I am pretty sure their Australian.
@@daemonspudguy ok.👍
@@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker In the more correct, British English (and it's late colonies - Canadian and Australian too) it's pronounced with a slight "l" , while in Hamburgerian it's without it. So no it isn't supposed to be silent, unless you are from the land of war.
@@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker I pronounce the L and btw your speaking English ..i live in England ..the clue is in the name :P
Hey Mr. 8-bit. This build board soldering episode was very helpful 😊👍
Oh man,the Lemmings music! When I heard that second song,the memories came flooding back. I've been soldering for like 30 years,and your solder joints look better than some of mine. Don't sweat it.
Eggnog, Cherry Pie, and 8-Bit Guy.
What a good night. :)
Also, self-teaching is best teaching. Fuck, I taught myself most of what I know about alchemy (never combine argon alkalide and sulphur dioxide in anything NOT made of iron or copper if you value your skin...nor allow your beakers to heat to more than 480 degrees K...)
@11:28 - the lemmings theme was my ringtone for a while :)
David your soldering techniques are Great🙂
Im Happy everytime you and LGR upload videos
Here's another soldering tidbit. Don't solder adjacent pins on ICs or sockets. Skip a few, and come back multiple times. Heat can damage ICs, and spacing out the pins soldered lowers overall heat applied to any one spot.
Good advice! I never thought about that. It's one of those things that makes sense in hindsight, though. (Then again, I very seldom soldered ICs. I usually socketed everything, unless the space inside the case was tight.)
Just ICs, sockets don't care. And modern ICs don't really care much either. It's just the old chips you could kill easily with a bit of heat.
I'm Eastern US, and even I don't pronounce the "L" in soldering. That's actually why I didn't know how to spell it correctly at first.
I've never heard *anyone* in the United States pronounce the L in _solder._ Ever. I was surprised to learn it's not that way in other countries. But, there are many other letters I do pronounce that (for example) Brits have given up on.
Heretic!
3 old tech CZcamsrs in a row. Never seen before unless it's on 8-bit guy. Great content!
I don't want to skip the assembly sir Ireally love your videos I learn alot☺
never noticed till now in his intro the label of the disk says to type
LOAD"*",8
but he types in on the computer
LOAD"$",8
The '$' folder I think loads the directory listing. The implementation of the 'dir' command is kinda wonky on Commodore machines - it had to load the listing from disk and write it to a BASIC program for some reason. It's wonky.
@surfitlive ,8 means the program from device 8 will be loaded into basic memory,
,8,1 means the program will be loaded to the stored location defined by the two first bytes in the file that is being loaded. Which is what you need to properly load a machine code program.
,0 The program will be loaded to the start address of BASIC memory (2049/$0801).
,1 The program will be loaded absolute, namely it is stored to the location defined by the first two bytes in the PRG file image.
Typically needed for machine language programs to get properly located into the memory. if you don't do that you'll most likely encounter a ?OUT OF MEMORY ERROR.
@@iProgramInCpp experts use DIRECTORY command and does not overwrite memory :-) at least on C16, C128 :-D
13:20
I’ve never played Ultima 6, but I’ve watched so many 8-bit guy videos that this tune is nostalgic to me.
Yes
lol
same lol
You rock sir! pure self learning!!
GREAT VIDEO i looking forward to see some more restorations!
Never clicked so fast. This video seems interesting
I know this is going to sound redundant to 99% of folks but I would LOVE a USB version of this with a VST controller. I'd love to write Dos type music with the opl3 on a modern machine. I know its nuts but there we are!
Maybe just rip the OPL2 / OPL3 emulation code out of DOSBox instead.
You could also go with Plouge's Chipsound's VST for a software-only solution. Does not seem to emulate the Yamaha, but it does quite a few other famous sound chips.
I too would love a usb adlib.
Of software there is JuceOPLVSTi which is a vst wrapper of dosbox. Dexed, which is a VSTi dx7 emulator also has a OPL mode that simulates the lower end soundchips, but it only has the sine operator. Both of these are free and work cross platform. On the paid side FM8 can also sound very oldschool since it has built in decimation and a lot of classic modulators.
All these solutions are purely envelope controlled and you'll have to expose parameters to be controlled by your DAW to get the iconic complex sounds you hear in games where they used lookup tables to switch operator waveform and pitch mid sound.
Thanks for all the replies! Seems its not as crazy as I thought!
I must add, I do a lot of music - I have a love for SID stuff. Have some hardware - HardSID4u, old QuadraSID, C64 with Mssiah, SammichSID, SammichFM, Yamaha TG33 and FS1R among others :-)
Ive heard of the Plogue synth must look into it. Never thought of dosbox, must look at the JuceOPLvst! Thanks again for the ideas - much appreciated!
Let me know if you ever find a good sequencer. I've tried just using Anvil Studio and importing the file into a MIDI player running in DOSBox, but there must be some code in modern MIDI files that wasn't around in the olden days, because my files always cause the old players to crash.
David, as a Pace certified solder tech I can say your soldering is [edit] more than [/edit] fine! It's much better than most I've seen on CZcams including such names as Ben Heck.
Great video! I love it how you used Pinball Fantasies as an example, it has such an awesome soundtrack
If people talk derisively about your soldering, please ignore them. I enjoy your videos that show how to do this stuff. I especially like that you're self taught. I have the utmost respect for people who love their craft so much that they learn it on their own. I'm self-taught on PC building and repair myself, so I respect it even more. :)
Talkin' 'bout the Yamaha YM3812...
Wearing a SID shirt...
This man has no shame! ;-)
the really bad thing is the SID shirt is wrong, and there will be more than dodging fruit for bagging an mt-32
thanks for sharing The 8-Bit Guy
The music is so much better! Well done!
18:41 Background Cat
its an easter cat :)
WOW, you have a good eye, I was looking at the game and totally missed it.
Soldering: You have obviously read some comments from well informed people, your technique looks near flawless now.
I was absolutely impressed the entire time, and then you got to Heretic and I had a fit of nostalgia and happiness haha!
Your solder joints look great!
People who criticize others for pronouncing a word differently, need to get a life. Keep up the great work 8-bit guy.
Ed boy It always reminds me of this XKCD strip - xkcd.com/386/ :)
It's "solder", it's got a fucking L in it!
Never said anything about solder, just said that people need to get a life when correcting others pronunciation of words. If you need to correct everyone on how they pronounce a word, your life must be quite boring.
My life's a bit mad, actually. Certainly interesting at times. But while I'm sat here on the computer I have time to waste however I like.
Speaking correctly is important. Or we'll all start talking like hillbillies and valley girls, vocabulary will shrink, and eventually speech will be replaced altogether by a system of grunts, farting, and threatening looks.
It's also courteous to other people to speak properly. They're lending you their ears, so make the effort of learning how to speak correctly. It's not about sounding posh, or rich. I'm neither. But you can speak properly if you pay attention. There's hundreds of dictionaries on the web, there's several channels on CZcams where somebody pronounces words.
The alternative is lazy speaking, not making the effort to learn how to pronounce things properly. Accents are fine and lovely by the way. This isn't about money or race or formal education. Just about making an effort and paying attention to the words that are all around you. Open your mouth and use your tongue and lips with full concentration.
But besides all that, how can you pronounce "solder" as "sodder" ? It defies explanation! Is it normal to drop L's in words? Where else?
Different countries have different ways of pronouncing words. It had been this way for hundreds of centuries. Not every country can live to the UK spelling standard. Even Australia has a different way of pronouncing some English words as well as Canada and even India.
Osborne reaction springs to mind
Your soldering is fine don't let anyone tell you otherwise :) Thanks for sharing.
Awesome, I always feel some sort of relief when I see all this videos of people showing their passion for these early 90's PC games, I think that was the golden age of computer gaming...