"So Bad It's Good" Music PART 2 (Florence Foster Jenkins, Wesley Willis, William Shatner, Viper)

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    At long last, the sequel many of you have been waiting for! My video on “so bad it’s good” music and The Room blew up recently, and so many people suggested other artists that I could/should have covered. So here are just a few of the most suggested artists y’all recommended! Including Florence Foster Jenkins, Wesley Willis, William Shatner, Viper, and IceJJFish.
    Again, thanks to all of you who responded so positively to my first “so bad it’s good” video. I hope you enjoy this one!
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    SOURCES:
    First “So Bad It’s Good Music” Video: • Examining "So Bad It's...
    Troll 2
    - Opening: • Troll 2 opening
    - Theme: • TROLL 2 EXTENDED THEME...
    - Oh My GOOOOOOOD: • A Scene From Troll 2
    - Hospitality: • Troll 2 | And you can'...
    - Captain Beefheart: • Video
    - Rebecca Black: • Rebecca Black - Friday
    Florence Foster Jenkins:
    - Historical Films Footage: • THE REAL FLORENCE FOST...
    - Queen of the Night: • Florence Foster Jenkin...
    - Movie Clip: • From Florence Foster J...
    - Diana Damrau: • The Magic Flute - Quee...
    - Regula Mühlemann: • Mein Herr Marquis - Di...
    - Family Lineage: www.wargs.com/other/jenkins.html
    - Cole Porter: web.archive.org/web/201003161...
    - www.gramophone.co.uk/review/f...
    - nypost.com/2016/07/30/how-the...
    - www.npr.org/2014/08/01/337096...
    Wesley Willis
    - “Wesley Willis As Himself”: • Wesley Willis As Himse...
    - “Rock ‘n Roll McDonalds”: • "Rock & Roll McDonald's"
    - Howard Stern: • Video
    - “The Chicken Cow”: • Wesley Willis - The Ch...
    - MTV Interview: • Wesley Willis Interview
    - Nardwuar: • Nardwuar vs. Wesley Wi...
    - Allmusic Review 1: www.allmusic.com/album/feel-t...
    - Allmusic Review 2: www.allmusic.com/album/rock-n...
    William Shatner
    - “Mr. Tambourine Man”: • William Shatner - Mr T...
    - “Spleen / Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds”: • William Shatner- Splee...
    - George Lopez: • William Shatner Sings ...
    - Star Trek Clip 1: • Video
    - Star Trek Clip 2: • Star Trek - Kirk vs. Gorn
    Viper
    - Full Album: • [FULL ALBUM] Viper - Y...
    - Music Video: • Viper - You'll Cowards...
    - Interview with Vice: www.vice.com/en_us/article/rj...
    - Discography: viper.fandom.com/wiki/Viper_D...
    IceJJFish
    - “On the Floor”: • IceJJFish - On The Flo...
    - “Got That”: • IceJJfish - Got That (...
    - Theremin: • Leon Theremin playing ...
    Clam Juice Clip from “Oh Hello! On Broadway” on Netflix
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Komentáře • 589

  • @victoriazed6679
    @victoriazed6679 Před 4 lety +1156

    Also "Rock&Roll McDonald`s was used on on "Super-Size me". I was actually shocked to find out it was a real song

    • @galleryofrogues
      @galleryofrogues Před 4 lety +58

      Victoria Zed Sad that WW was dead by then, and thus got no licensing fees. 😢

    • @victoriazed6679
      @victoriazed6679 Před 4 lety +42

      @@galleryofrogues OMG that is so sad. I hope music helped him to feel better. It`s an awful illnes.

    • @weirdproq
      @weirdproq Před 4 lety +9

      Oh my Goodness. The memories of that just came flooding back! You're right!

    • @QJ89
      @QJ89 Před 4 lety +5

      Oh man, that song made my day!

    • @Andres33AU
      @Andres33AU Před 3 lety +7

      Another song of his ended up on one of the Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law DVDs, during the main menu. It was the suitably named song: Birdman Kicked my Ass.

  • @edwardlayer4259
    @edwardlayer4259 Před 4 lety +169

    When I first heard Rock n Roll McDonalds, without knowing the background of Willis, I just thought it was a really good punk rock song.

  • @TimBitten
    @TimBitten Před 4 lety +481

    As a performer, I feel really sad for Florence Foster Jenkins. However, I absolutely love that final quote from her. It's inspiring.

    • @ameliasv222
      @ameliasv222 Před 3 lety +18

      I completely agree. I feel like she was a wonderful person.

    • @doovstoover9703
      @doovstoover9703 Před 3 lety +10

      That quote made my heart sooooaaarrr!

  • @eyemh8
    @eyemh8 Před 4 lety +231

    When I was young I did laugh at Wesley but when I saw him live and met him I got it. The ritual of meeting him is like nothing else. I think you can empathize with his pain immediately in that moment, then you look around the room and see a hundred people smiling and happy. That’s what he chose to give back to a world that did him wrong. It changed me and I’m a better person because of him. “Say raw, say ro”

  • @Rsgg95
    @Rsgg95 Před 4 lety +524

    And don't forget about the last viper's hit: "I suicided Epstein"

    • @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245
      @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 Před 3 lety +24

      “How y’all doing with self isolation? I stole all tha toilet paper” is actually really good tbh

    • @jonhanson8925
      @jonhanson8925 Před 2 lety +2

      Watching it, it reflects the criticism in the video. The title is hilarious and the music video is pretty funny, but the song itself is completely generic.

    • @inrainbows1829
      @inrainbows1829 Před 2 lety

      Or Joe Biden isn't a pedo

    • @L251125
      @L251125 Před 2 lety +2

      That's kind of a badass title for a song tho

  • @johnmarcdegaard6589
    @johnmarcdegaard6589 Před 4 lety +174

    Omg I’m so glad you put Viper. You’ll Cowards Don’t Even Smoke Crack deadass pioneered cloud rap

    • @ts-wo6pp
      @ts-wo6pp Před 4 lety +17

      My Hops unironically goes like mad

    • @calumbishop7082
      @calumbishop7082 Před 4 lety +1

      Don’t you mean ‘You’ll Cowards Don’t Even Smoke Lamb Juice’

    • @MarviNacho
      @MarviNacho Před 4 lety +3

      "Tha Feel Good" from the album Yo Woman Holdin' Me III is one of the best songs of his I've heard so far. With some cleaner production I could totally see this as a closer on a modern big name hip hop album and being HEAVILY vibed on. The vocal sample is fucking genius.

  • @bingobazingo9565
    @bingobazingo9565 Před 4 lety +321

    WAS THAT NARDWAR WITH WILLIS!? HOW LONG HAS THIS VAMPIRE OF A MAN BEEN ALIVE!?

    • @donnylurch4207
      @donnylurch4207 Před 4 lety +80

      Bruh, you should hear Nardwar's interview with Claude Debussy. You can only find it on wax cylinder!

    • @arturhours
      @arturhours Před 4 lety +33

      he interviewed nirvana, so for a while

    • @versnellingspookie
      @versnellingspookie Před 4 lety +40

      He's been at it since 1985

    • @dragonballs512
      @dragonballs512 Před 4 lety +13

      Nardwar is a god amongst men

    • @Krakkokayne
      @Krakkokayne Před 4 lety +27

      Actually, he's been at it since 1984 when he interviewed Henry Rollins from Black flag when thier album My War came out, you're close enough though.

  • @harrisonkfisher563
    @harrisonkfisher563 Před 4 lety +516

    I absolutely love Wesley willis's music, just because of the brutal honesty and his overall enjoyment of making his music. A good documentary is Wesley Willis by himself (I think that's the name,too lazy to look it up!) which explores his childhood and has an interview with him where he describes his music and his excuse for the same keyboard solos something like " because I'm a rockstar" , Anyways rock over London, rock on Chicago....

    • @stevencoffin328
      @stevencoffin328 Před 4 lety +10

      It's called Joyrides

    • @loopedchopped
      @loopedchopped Před 3 lety +5

      @@stevencoffin328 *Wesley Willis as himself, 1994

    • @jamesslick4790
      @jamesslick4790 Před 3 lety +15

      I have heard significantly WORSE records than his. His stuff is not pretentious, He legit was "doing his own thing" and was sincere about it. There's something to be said for that. Hell, they even renamed the Sears Tower in CHICAGO after him. (Ok, that last part ain't true, LOL).

    • @StrangeMusical
      @StrangeMusical Před měsícem +1

      I went to his shows , I got head-butted , and hung out with a man who was vulnerable & genuine (despite tourette and other battles in the brain).
      I believe 90% the fans were there because they felt compassion for the brave man to face his demons, on stage, in front of an audience. Laughing with the music is proper and welcomed. Laughing at Wesley would have been a grave insult (to both him and the other fans).
      IMHO, seeing Wesley was a camaraderie of accepting our own emotional /mental instability, not a show for "looky loo" shock jockers.

  • @corbingarber7765
    @corbingarber7765 Před 4 lety +364

    So Florence Foster Jenkins basically said, “Hey, I’m rich, might as well make some music!”
    She was the first CZcams singer.

  • @mauruhkatigaming4807
    @mauruhkatigaming4807 Před 4 lety +349

    I can't get behind the notion that listening to Wesley Willis or anyone like him is exploitative. He made music because he wanted to. If some assholes want to laugh at him for the wrong reasons, they can do it if they want. If he weren't releasing music, they'd still be assholes being assholes about something else, but Wesley wouldn't have the music.
    Even if there is merit in the argument that it was exploitative, I don't think that's what animates the discomfort felt by Erlewine and others. I think it's that they're uncomfortable about being reminded that schizophrenic people exist. They'd rather that unpleasantness not happen in front of them - they're "supposed" to be suffering in silence. One of the reasons there really does need to be more art made about and by genuinely mentally ill people, and less of the comic book version we see in too much art nowadays.

    • @longmeaderulez
      @longmeaderulez Před 3 lety +37

      When I discovered Willis as a teenager and budding musician myself, his music made me feel many of the things that any other musical discovery at that age did: joy, excitement, a bit of that "why didn't I think of this?" envy. The more I learned about his struggles and the way he used music as force for good in his and others' lives the more I grew to respect him and his body of work.
      But you hit the nail on the head. Assholes will be assholes, and some music isn't made to be reviewed or critiqued...it is made to be heard, whether by one person or one million.

    • @brucesmith1544
      @brucesmith1544 Před 3 lety +2

      Laughing "for the wrong reasons" seems ambiguously judgmental

    • @ConvincingPeople
      @ConvincingPeople Před 3 lety +14

      @@brucesmith1544 What I think is meant is, not laughing in a good-natured way, but in mockery and contempt. And I think a lot of people do that with art created by people whose existence they'd rather not acknowledge. It's a way of demarcating the Other: "I laugh at this because it is not like me."

    • @brucesmith1544
      @brucesmith1544 Před 3 lety +5

      @@ConvincingPeople
      sure, I guess, but I think these are mostly involuntary reactions.

    • @Malkmusianful
      @Malkmusianful Před 2 lety +3

      yeah, but there's still a lot of people who, for example, don't understand the ways Wesley Willis would mitigate hallucination flare-ups and come in blind to a song where he's screaming at you to perform fellatio on various animals using grocery store condiments
      still with that said, there's a lot of fun to Wesley Willis. I unironically love his stuff - I love how he gets really passionate about every band he sees live and I love how he has nothing but respect for all the cool people he's met while also taking you aside for a minute to tell you about how the CTA can be a lot more knowledgeable about neurodivergence and how it manifests. also, I consider it a game to find out which advertising slogan he's used this time - makes all those "rock over london, rock on chicago" endings worth it.

  • @baggybandtshirt
    @baggybandtshirt Před 4 lety +316

    I love wesley willis and daniel johnston, they use music as a form of therapy and they make music that they love

    • @armandgagne2332
      @armandgagne2332 Před 4 lety +6

      That's the way it should be! That's how I make my music even if nobody cares for it even my friends (at least they're honest with me) I just love to take hours to craft somethings that's me and if someone enjoys it than good for them if not well too bad!

    • @sunnowo
      @sunnowo Před 4 lety +24

      But the kind of surprise to me was though they’re using the format for similar purposes. Daniel Johnston is actually a talented musician. So it felt off that he would even be mentioned here.

    • @aliestercrowley641
      @aliestercrowley641 Před 4 lety +2

      If the devil is six, then god is seven

    • @chzcake44s
      @chzcake44s Před 4 lety +5

      @@sunnowo Felt off for me too. Daniel Johnston is unironically critically acclaimed too.

    • @Gollas4k
      @Gollas4k Před 3 lety

      @@chzcake44s right? he wasn´t a professional performer or musician, some of his songs are goofy and weird but I´ve never met a person who listens to his music ironically

  • @ellielikesthings
    @ellielikesthings Před 3 lety +74

    Wesley seems like the nicest fucking dude. It really makes me sad that he passed away. I wouldn’t even call his music bad to be completely honest. It’s meant to just be fun I think. And it does that. It almost feels like love is baked into it. It feels very sweet and weirdly personal. I get a sense of community listening to him

    • @oarck
      @oarck Před 2 lety +5

      its incredibly personal, from multiple facets. in his more absurd songs (like the superhero fight series), the way he describes scenarios is extremely unique. plus he has really candid, haunting songs about his experience (chronic schizophrenia)
      also as a suburban goober i love how many obscure chicago references he throws out

  • @groovy4451
    @groovy4451 Před 4 lety +181

    I think Daniel Johnston's appeal is how genuine his music is. It reads like a gateway into his mind.

    • @daishoryujin95
      @daishoryujin95 Před 3 lety +13

      He was a pure soul and he shall be missed.

    • @royalninja2823
      @royalninja2823 Před 3 lety +25

      Daniel Johnston is not So Bad It's Good. It was amateur and lo-fi, but the ideas behind the music were strong.

    • @FamousByFriday
      @FamousByFriday Před 3 lety +9

      I completely agree here. Sure his lyrics were sometimes free flow-y and not “classically crafted”?, but he had a few songs that did hit on something. ...and I think he did have talent. Id say if someone had sat down and helped him produce his albums and limit the number of songs he put out, the albums would probably be all considered really good... but I say the same thing about Weezer.

    • @raihidara
      @raihidara Před 3 lety +3

      @@FamousByFriday I feel that Daniel Johnston was a great writer but a poor performer, yet at the same time those imperfections in his recordings add to the atmosphere and themes of his music. In the end he was probably the best fit for his music.

    • @Gollas4k
      @Gollas4k Před 3 lety +11

      daniel johnston isn´t even "so bad it´s good", it´s just good. it´s great. nobody listens to his music ironically, people listen because it´s so incredibly genuine and heartfelt... he obviously wasn´t a professional performer, not even a conventionally good musician but that doesn´t matter because he was an outstanding songwriter and he played and sang his songs in such a pure way that you can feel his pain

  • @DanielTGaming
    @DanielTGaming Před 4 lety +42

    Daniel Johnston just passed away. May he rest in peace.

  • @jacklightyear5869
    @jacklightyear5869 Před rokem +18

    That ending quote from FFJ is actually super inspiring. Do what you love, regardless of what other people think, don’t die with any regrets. Home girl lived her dreams.

  • @thedillybarboy
    @thedillybarboy Před 3 lety +27

    There's something charming about Wesley Wills' music. I love how passionate he is about his work. His songs may not be a masterpieces, and that's okay. It's not all about quality, it's about how you connect with the listener. Rock over London. Rock on, Chicago.

  • @nullifiedbye
    @nullifiedbye Před 3 lety +28

    as someone with schizophrenia and is a musician, Daniel Johnston and Wesley Willis are phenomenal artists 2 me. they're like two sides of a coin i constantly flip in my hand. where they came from, what they experiences. the idea that Willis expresses about music being something that helps him deal with demons, that hits different for me.

  • @hayward325
    @hayward325 Před 4 lety +273

    ya’ll better stay away from my Daniel Johnston

    • @masondoesguitar
      @masondoesguitar Před 4 lety +25

      FlyingYak ________________ Now they really better stay away from Daniel Johnston.

    • @hayward325
      @hayward325 Před 4 lety +18

      😢 RIP Daniel

    • @thunder_heads
      @thunder_heads Před 4 lety

      Poor danny

    • @Giganfan2k1
      @Giganfan2k1 Před 4 lety +16

      Daniel needs to be in more minds and hearts. If he can get recognition by "so bad its good" you still admit it is good.
      True Love will always kill me. Every time.

    • @ambiantproductions2901
      @ambiantproductions2901 Před 3 lety +10

      Alot of daniel Johnston’s music is unironically really good albeit very amateur and hard to get used to for new listeners.

  • @prpldragon64
    @prpldragon64 Před 4 lety +59

    Come for the in-depth music talk, stay for the deep, long-lasting emotional impact that leaves me awake at night.

  • @desperatemohammedantheworl5833

    And now I remember how I discovered your channel.

  • @johnlabrott2835
    @johnlabrott2835 Před 4 lety +44

    I legitimately love listening to Wesley Willis. His music brings on a release whenever I'm in a negative state of mind. A pirate radio station in my high school days introduced me to Wesley as well as GG Allin.

  • @jamietaylor8663
    @jamietaylor8663 Před 4 lety +85

    Nobody:
    My brain: Rock and roll McDonald’s!

  • @randombrokeperson
    @randombrokeperson Před 4 lety +14

    I thought IceJJFish was this brilliant comedian who pulled a prank on all of us... But no. He's serious. He still releases music.

  • @lionelbokeli4018
    @lionelbokeli4018 Před 4 lety +105

    the appeal of viper are his song/album titles and artworks they are so funny i dont even care about the tracks themselves

    • @LukeLeonettiYouTube
      @LukeLeonettiYouTube Před 4 lety +17

      “Fuck tha world it ain’t real I bend tha spoon wit my mind 2” is my favorite of his

  • @MLMenjoyer
    @MLMenjoyer Před 4 lety +90

    WESLEY WILLIS IS A GENIUS AND not bad!!!! I do get that he’s not super talented but Daniel Johnston is almost a normal artist despite his disabilities.

    • @Fish-vs6jf
      @Fish-vs6jf Před 4 lety +1

      What exactly do you like about his music?

  • @hayleynoellebroders8247
    @hayleynoellebroders8247 Před 4 lety +81

    Nick, you're CZcams's Rakim; A brilliant writer and artist who never swears to create emotional brevity and impact.

  • @desperatemohammedantheworl5833

    Shatner's second proper album, 2004's Has Been, is actually pretty fucking good. I've always liked The Transformed Man as while musically it's odd and massively flawed it still hangs together as a conceptual series of songs and is very listenable when listened to as intended.

    • @MicTheSnare
      @MicTheSnare  Před 4 lety +17

      I've heard good things about it! I know he also collaborated with Folds on a song years before Has Been, I think it's called "In Love."

    • @coreycschmidt
      @coreycschmidt Před 3 lety +5

      Yeah, In Love and Still In Love on Ben Folds' Fear Of Pop project. It's a pretty interesting album with a lot of strange stuff but it's a fun listen.

  • @jefferyjones8399
    @jefferyjones8399 Před 4 lety +47

    I genuinely enjoy Daniel Johnston. I wish you would have covered him.

    • @robgronotte1
      @robgronotte1 Před 4 lety +8

      He doesn't have a great voice or a lot of instrumental talent, but many of his songs are excellent. I can enjoy him, but not because he's "so bad it's good". I once saw him play live about 20 years ago and spoke with him a bit after. Told him I thought it was great that Wilco had recently covered his song "True Love Will Find You In The End", which he seemed unaware of at the time. I really prefer the covers of his songs as they can bring out greatness in the composition that Daniel himself can't really do justice.

    • @MinoTheShow
      @MinoTheShow Před 4 lety +13

      I would never consider him “so bad its good”, it’s rough-sounding and sometimes amateur instrumentally but he was definitely a brilliant songwriter and he has plenty of tracks that are polished/restrained enough that they’ve made their way into movies and commercials played totally sincerely/straight

  • @piercethegale6125
    @piercethegale6125 Před 3 lety +9

    Metallica's Invisible Kid off of Saint Anger has brought me more joy than any genuinely good song ever could; the way it sounds like it's being played on a trash can inside of another trash can, and how it drags on longer than the ending of lord of the rings.

  • @EllieLindhorst
    @EllieLindhorst Před 4 lety +14

    Daniel johnston and wesley willis are some of my favorite musicians!

  • @emnigmamachine
    @emnigmamachine Před 3 lety +15

    I un ironically enjoy Viper and think he's an inspiring figure to my creativity.

  • @JNava
    @JNava Před 4 lety +34

    Look up the album “Songs in the Key of Z”
    There’s a ton of outsider musicians on there that sound so bad that it’s good.
    That’s how I discovered Wesley Willis, Daniel Johnston, Tiny Tim, etc...

    • @JNava
      @JNava Před 4 lety +1

      There’s even volumes of these albums.
      I think there’s 4?
      Anyway look them up because they’re really out of this world.
      It made me realize that these artists don’t care how bad they sound, the magic is them actually trying their best, that’s what makes the genuine & considered “outsider”.
      Made me realize that it doesn’t matter how bad your music sounds, there will always be an audience for your kind of music.

    • @KeelyBurnMusic
      @KeelyBurnMusic Před 4 lety +1

      There's a book too! I just wrote a comment about it before seeing this one. I too discovered a lot of these artists via the book/album.

  • @HotStrange
    @HotStrange Před 4 lety +20

    Read The Rolling Stones 500 greatest albums of all time. It’s all Viper albums.

  • @MarkusAudio
    @MarkusAudio Před 3 lety +7

    The Shaggs history showed me how not to judge a disc by its cover. After the first listening, I realised that they inadvertedly ushered techniques yet to be mastered...and that goes for many mocked artists.

  • @tristanschafer1
    @tristanschafer1 Před 4 lety +17

    If you ever do a part three of this series, you have GOT to give Jandek a deep dive. Obviously I don't expect you to listen to all 94 albums, but there's bound to be something in there for you.

    • @ConvincingPeople
      @ConvincingPeople Před 4 lety +4

      Tristan Schafer I don't think Jandek is "bad" at all so much as just deeply strange and defiant of musical convention; he's very upfront about both the influence of the philosophy of '60s free jazz on his work, and the weird ways that he tunes his guitars are actually extremely precise despite bearing very little relationship to conventional tuning. But at the same time, it's that absolute disconnect with typical expectations and the weird angle that he approaches "normal" musical ideas from that makes his work so jarring. He's not a modern classical musician or an out jazz cat or the guitarist for a skronky noise-rock trio, but some guy alone in his house with a guitar (or sometimes a bass or piano) and one or two mics playing what is essentially folk-blues... except the "chords" are microtonal and dissonant, the lyrics are Surrealistic free verse poetry, there are no clear song structures, and everything that does approach expectation just feels kind of wrong in some way that you just can't place. And sometimes there are drums, or synths, or a woman singing, or screams. And sometimes he speak-sings without accompaniment. Or just plays piano and theremin for five hours with no singing or speaking or screaming at all, just because.
      In other words, Jandek is awesome but he is also really, *really* not for everyone.

    • @supersts7628
      @supersts7628 Před 4 lety +1

      this is the only comment thread about Jandek and that makes me sad

  • @frownyclowny6955
    @frownyclowny6955 Před 4 lety +5

    I am so happy that I finally sound who did Rock-and-Roll-McDonalds I think I might cry I immediately love this guy’s work and your own. Just THANK YOU

  • @boomerjohnston494
    @boomerjohnston494 Před 2 lety +4

    I love Wesley's music cause I love Wesley. his songs are so fantastic!

  • @lumiii_-
    @lumiii_- Před 4 lety +11

    That's awesome! I remember hearing the rockin' roll McDonald's line before but I never knew the origin.

  • @alexbird2670
    @alexbird2670 Před 4 lety +5

    No joke the Wesley Willis Fiasco's cover of Girls on Film absolutely kicks ass.

  • @waywardlaser
    @waywardlaser Před 4 lety +10

    Rock & Roll McDonald's came recommended to me in a Spotify playlist and my friend and I started losing our shit. Then we read up on Willis' life and felt sad :(

  • @liamthemusicreviewer
    @liamthemusicreviewer Před 4 lety +11

    Could literally watch twenty entries in this sort of series and never get bored: appreciate ya man❤️

  • @2yoyoyo1Unplugged
    @2yoyoyo1Unplugged Před 4 lety +6

    4:17 _What a transition!_ That was brilliant!

  • @ColeStudiman
    @ColeStudiman Před 4 lety +37

    Daniel Johnston made some bangers

  • @blackphoenix77
    @blackphoenix77 Před 4 lety +10

    Susan Alexander in the film Citizen Kane was based on Florence Foster Jenkins

  • @HectorGonzalez-qx9nk
    @HectorGonzalez-qx9nk Před 4 lety +15

    For one of the last video’s topics, Corey Feldman, I can always say that he can’t sing, but I desperately wish I could say that he didn’t.

  • @HotStrange
    @HotStrange Před 4 lety +5

    Metal Machine Music is a masterpiece because of it’s influence on noise music alone. Also that FFJ quote at the end is one of my favorites.

  • @raihidara
    @raihidara Před 3 lety +7

    I unironically enjoy some of William Shatner's covers. The narrative delivery is what draws me to them. They're unique in a good way, and they give the original songs a dramatic, boozy, lounge feel. Are they better than the originals? Of course not. But a cover like Common People for example actually heightens the emotional impact more than the original.

  • @marcoraap733
    @marcoraap733 Před 4 lety +2

    Florence Foster Jenkins had a few things that all the others very bad singers did not have, Truth, Honesty and Passion. It is a small edge between Joy and Pain listen to her but I got always goosebumps hearing her. And these are the good pleasuring kind of goosebumps. I adore her deep from my heart.

  • @ConfusedNyan
    @ConfusedNyan Před 4 lety +3

    When I saw the part on Wesley Willis, I was wondering, "WTF am I listening to?!" I sorta chuckled to myself for a bit.
    The moment he said that performing that music functioned as therapy for him and it had a positive effect on himself, I stopped laughing.
    I could not think any more thoughts of "WTF?!" about it with a clear conscience. Mental illness is no laughing matter.
    It takes a lot to put yourself out musically. It also takes a lot to face your inner demons head-on. Those two together and to come out the other side triumphant says much that cannot be ignored.

  • @Syfoll
    @Syfoll Před 4 lety +9

    Daniel Johnston is really good though. He's actually talented. I get that his recording at best has a primitive charm, while sometimes it's pretty bad, if he were to work as a session songwriter, I don't think anyone would doubt his abilities. Walking the Cow is fucking amazing

  • @jesse_cole
    @jesse_cole Před 3 lety +1

    A friend of mine saw Wesley Willis in the year 2000. He described his interaction with Wesley after the show thusly:
    "Wesley put his forehead against mine.
    WW: "Say Rock"
    Me: "Rock"
    (Headbutt from Wesley)
    WW: "Say Roll"
    Me: "Roll"
    (another headbutt)
    WW: "Rock"
    Me: "Rock"
    (headbutt)
    WW: "Roll"
    Me: "Roll"
    (headbutt)
    This continued and accelerated, as Wesley got increasingly forceful, until I had to pull away. The bruise on my forehead lasted for the next four days."

  • @carnation254
    @carnation254 Před 4 lety +2

    Meryl Streep saying "a little more allegretto, please, if you don't mind" is everything to me
    Oh, and great video, as always! A willingness to talk about the moral side to all of this is so important and it's clear that you value your musical research. I think your viewpoints will help listeners have a more open-minded approach to listening to this music, and in listening to music in the future.

    • @MicTheSnare
      @MicTheSnare  Před 4 lety +1

      Honestly my life motto now 😂 and thank you!!!

  • @elinamp3
    @elinamp3 Před 4 lety +3

    wesley and viper are both legends and honestly really influential

  • @LynnHermione
    @LynnHermione Před 3 lety +2

    Joking aside, that viper dude has a really interesting voice. He could have made bank on asmr

  • @arvencala6947
    @arvencala6947 Před 4 lety +13

    Bruh great video but who tf would even suggest Daniel Johnston he makes great outsider music

  • @DenpaKei
    @DenpaKei Před 4 lety +1

    I JUST watched that video for the first time last week. Super cool that you made a followup.

  • @McMillanScottish
    @McMillanScottish Před 3 lety

    Anyone who spent any time as a "musical barfly", frequenting music clubs around Chicago in the '90s and early 2000's probably could say they had seen or met Wesley Willis. The dude got around. I was playing a solo acoustic show at the Rockhouse Grill in Rolling Meadows, IL sometime around 2002 when a friend of mine asked Wesley (who at the bar, waiting to see a manager about booking a show there) what he thought of my music. Wes looked over at me, with his trademark scowl, and said, "He's good. Plays good guitar." Of course, I quoted him, and put that remark with other notable quotes on my tour posters. Fond memory. He was a really nice guy, once you got past the initial "impact". He was a 6'5", 300-lb dude in somewhat raggedy attire with a permanent scowl. But he had a penchant for shaking everybody's hand and saying hello. Oh, and head-butting people. But he did so in a "friendly way", despite the concussion which many "head-butt" recipients likely experienced.

  • @k.d.november9234
    @k.d.november9234 Před 4 lety

    BRAVO on this 2nd Video ... Well done!

  • @davidlambardo2974
    @davidlambardo2974 Před 4 lety

    I don't understand why you don't have a lot more subscribers.... These videos are amazing!

  • @homeboy6076
    @homeboy6076 Před 4 lety +8

    i just watched the first video for the first time yesterday! i'm glad you decided to make another :)

  • @victoriazed6679
    @victoriazed6679 Před 4 lety +12

    I`m so happy your channel is blowing up! I was one of your first subscribers and realy just super happy for you.

  • @KeelyBurnMusic
    @KeelyBurnMusic Před 4 lety +1

    Just came here from the first video and I have to say I really enjoyed both. Great analyses, great editing, great examples!
    I recently read a book on outsider musicians, Songs in the Key of Z by Irwin Chusid (I recommend reading it if you haven't and if you're interested in the topic, it profiles so many fascinating musicians I had never heard of), and about a week after finishing it, these videos were recommended to me. Thanks for spying on me, CZcams?
    Anyway, looking forward to seeing more content from this channel!

  • @allynfornow
    @allynfornow Před rokem

    That last quote is amazing!!

  • @lucasbaker4556
    @lucasbaker4556 Před 3 lety +1

    I absolutely love Wesley, his music has brought me legitimate pure joy and I do truly love his work!

  • @ChampippleD
    @ChampippleD Před 3 lety +3

    William Shatner rocked his cover of “Common People”. That whole “Has Been” CD was good.

  • @jobrown95
    @jobrown95 Před 3 lety

    Rock over London, rock on Chicago!
    Also that Oh Hello on Broadway clip was a pleasant surprise, thank you :)

  • @anyway96
    @anyway96 Před 4 lety +1

    Just found your channel and I love it! I noticed in one of your videos you mentioned Ben Fold’s Rockin the Suburbs as one of your favorite albums. It’s one of mine as well and I may be the only one that would want this, but I would LOVE a video of you dissecting the album. Cheers!

  • @SiManRevolution
    @SiManRevolution Před 2 měsíci

    Wesley's drawn art is really good. Super detailed city scenes rendered in countless bright pen lines.

  • @hobobobohobobobo
    @hobobobohobobobo Před 2 měsíci

    the most metal statement i heard was from wesley willis. he said hes doing the music to keep the voices in his head quite. what a legend, suffering from the worst life ever could give you and still making people smile and shine. true hero

  • @tziirkq
    @tziirkq Před 3 lety +2

    Willis and Johnston are legitimately great. There's something hypnotic about Willis, I compare his music to drone metal. It's really repetitive, and when you put it on, sit down and do nothing, it becomes part of your brain. It's like when a sound you didn't realise was there suddenly stops. It's unironically great music to help you relax.
    Johnston was a poet. There's a raw emotionality that you don't get from almost all other music. It's brutally unfair that to give the performances he thought his audience deserved, he would stop taking his meds before a show.
    At any rate, some songs I genuinely consider so bad they're good, "Chill in my vein" by Lori Watt, "FREE LOGAN" by Maxime, "Wilder" by Gnesa (Almost a song by The Residents), and "It's my life what ever I wanna do" by Vennu Mallesh. There's way more, but I don't think anyone really wants a full list.

  • @grahamkristensen9301
    @grahamkristensen9301 Před 4 lety +4

    4:18 That translation was godly.

  • @aenema22
    @aenema22 Před 8 měsíci

    Wes' music has always been therapy to me. Rock over London! Rock on Chicago!

  • @SamAronow
    @SamAronow Před 4 lety

    Like a lot of people, this video was randomly recommended to me in the algorithm a few months ago and that's how I found you, so congratulations on having your CZcams tipping point! But don't feel bad because your clothes in that video look like how I usually dress in mine. :)

  • @petercaporale5318
    @petercaporale5318 Před 7 měsíci

    There's just a joy Wesley Willis gives me.. Like I know he wasn't the best but you can tell he enjoyed making music and had fun with it and it translates into enjoyment

  • @Chesterton7
    @Chesterton7 Před 3 lety +1

    Fantastic.

  • @ThisBirdHasFlown
    @ThisBirdHasFlown Před rokem +1

    I love your attitude and friendly demeanour.

  • @elidisco
    @elidisco Před 4 lety

    Cool video!! Keep it up man, you obviously put a lot of work into these videos and they're great

  • @primrosefilmz6924
    @primrosefilmz6924 Před 4 lety

    I just recently found your channel and yesterday I watched your first video on this topic and I really liked it. I got really excited when I saw this video. I really love this video. I think that you should make a video on the evolution of the "Boy Band" genre of music. (I would really enjoy that} I hope that you read my comment.

  • @montymcgee7087
    @montymcgee7087 Před 3 lety

    I know this is an old video and you barely talked about him, but I wanted to say that I didn't know people listened to Daniel Johnston ironically... I've just really connected to his music, some of it has straight up brought me to tears and I think I just wanted to say that somewhere. His music is part of my most important playlist to me, it's the music I listen to when I want to feel good and when I already do. This didn't get super personal, but I still hope it disappears into the void of the internet. Thanks for the outlet

  • @jayst
    @jayst Před 3 lety +2

    Viper is awesome. My Hops, Hittin VIP Tonight, Feels, the entire Hustlin Thick album, and so many more great songs. His mixing and mastering leaves a lot to be desired but his instrumentals, flow, and lyrics are incredible.

  • @BlueMHart
    @BlueMHart Před rokem

    I'm glad that you decided to cover Wesley Willis and not Daniel Johnston in this video. Although I find both of their music charming, I'd have a harder time being convinced that Daniel Johnston makes "bad" or even "so bad it's good" music. That being said, I'd love to see you cover his music eventually- gotta go look on your channel to see if you've done a video on him.
    Also, love the comment that if Florence Foster Jenkins hadn't been performing such technically challenging music and had instead played folk music or something, she wouldn't have been ridiculed anywhere near as much. I have a soft spot in my heart for her after having been introduced to her story via the movie. It was years ago that I saw it and to this day, remembering the final scene makes me tear up. As does that famous quote from her. It's so much better to put music out in the world, than to be moved to do so and not act on that.

  • @HotFuss-gd9qr
    @HotFuss-gd9qr Před 6 měsíci +5

    As of yesterday, Viper is now arrested for kidnapping a woman and keeping her in his house against her will for 4-5 years. I am not making this up.

  • @wallystearns
    @wallystearns Před 4 lety +1

    I'd love to hear your thoughts on Rush. Keep up the great work!

  • @j.walker6845
    @j.walker6845 Před 4 lety +3

    "Playing rock music is the way to go" That's so badass

  • @Penguin_Tree
    @Penguin_Tree Před 3 lety +1

    I wish I could headbutt with Willis. Seems like a relaxing experience. He seems like a really nice person

  • @jeffoff7795
    @jeffoff7795 Před 4 lety +2

    I saw Wesley Willis live. It was a lot of fun. He was a sweet guy and, yes, he had real issues. His fans really seemed to love him.

  • @nobodyhome3753
    @nobodyhome3753 Před 3 lety +1

    I love how when he says "Oh my GOD!" The music modulates with the tone of his voice halfway through the word "GOD"

  • @mepinxotolporro
    @mepinxotolporro Před 4 lety

    Great vid dud well donde!

  • @ankhor9252
    @ankhor9252 Před 3 lety

    I'm glad you touched on morals and artistic consumption. It is something I have thought a lot about. On a side note, I think that letting "corporations" or "the main-stream" dictate our mental life (or in other words, telling us what we should like), is a moral failure. Your video was a 10 out of 10 by the way!

  • @TheSoulCollector13
    @TheSoulCollector13 Před 4 lety

    In college I worked for our University's art gallery and was luck enough to have seen MANY of Wesley Wilis' art works. We had probably 20 - 30 of his Chicago Drawings. Sad story but a kind soul from the stories our Curator had told me.

  • @MichaelCarbohydrate
    @MichaelCarbohydrate Před 4 lety

    Very cool

  • @destroyernoah
    @destroyernoah Před 4 lety +1

    I love the transition into the Wesley segment.

  • @albertaagency
    @albertaagency Před 4 lety

    Here before you get big 💯

  • @camerondodge2070
    @camerondodge2070 Před 3 lety +1

    4:22 If you want to know more about Wesley, his music, what he was like as a person, stuff like that, I suggest checking out the few documentaries made about him. Also check out Jello Biafra. He is the head (maybe, he might just the founder and spokesperson but not the head) of the label that put out some of the last Wesley's music (and will continue to do so), as well as being a good friend to him. He knew Wesley perhaps better than anyone.

  • @ArloQuilt
    @ArloQuilt Před 4 lety

    The best video on CZcams

  • @musicjax
    @musicjax Před 4 lety +7

    oh wow you actually were making another one haha

  • @skooptywooop1030
    @skooptywooop1030 Před 3 lety

    I love Rock and roll McDonalds I enjoy it because he is so enthusiastic and I love his energy. It gives me confidence I love the guy and his sentiments on creativity. Rest in Power Wesley.

  • @vin-cc9nk
    @vin-cc9nk Před 4 lety +7

    People that laugh or ridicule outsider artists like Willis are cowards. I'd like to see them having the balls to record and release anything with the same level of creative honesty. Being an artist is not easy, putting your work out there for everyone to judge requires a lot courage, and the fact that these artists just do whatever makes them happy without paying much regard to what is considered "acceptable", in terms of quality, is actually very inspiring.

  • @Wabaanimkii
    @Wabaanimkii Před 4 lety +1

    There’s an entire segment of a sublime documentary that talks about touring with the Wesley Willis fiasco band. It’s amazing.

  • @rujo2k
    @rujo2k Před 3 lety +1

    Here's a couple more for the list: Leonard Nimoy's "Ballad of Bilbo Baggins"
    Wing (once featured on South Park), a sort of Chinese version of Florence Foster Jenkins
    Rolf Kuhn's jazzy cover of Black Sabbath's "Paranoid"... on clarinet (it is surreal)