The Controversial First Year of Borderlands 3 - Remembering Borderlands (Chapter 4)

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  • čas přidán 17. 07. 2024
  • Leading up to the 1 year anniversary of Borderlands 3, I'll be releasing a mini documentary style review of the previous Borderlands games. In this video we'll be wrapping up the series with the grand finale, taking a look at the first year of Borderlands 3. Thank you guys so much for all of your support on the series,a nd thank you Gearbox for making so many memories not only this year, but for the past 10+ years also.
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  • @EpicNNG
    @EpicNNG  Před 3 lety +181

    Hey guys, I want to once again give my thanks to all of you for your non stop support of this series. I was extremely nervous watching how it would be received, but it's actually become one of the most viewed video series on my channel! I would personally like to end the series here, but I want to know what YOU guys want. Would you like to see the series continue? And if so, what would you like to see us cover next? Let me know!

    • @qsdfghjklm363
      @qsdfghjklm363 Před 3 lety

      Nice video. Could be interesting to have a ''returning players" video for the people who completed the game in first month or 2 and are checking back in now that all 4 dlc are here.
      I am personally looking into coming back, but most videos seem to cover specific patches or are outdated. I finished the main storyline in mayhem 3, got pretty much all good loot there was to get from farming Graveward and the loot tinkers (sue me :)).
      What do I do when I come back? start from 0 on a new class and play through the awful story again before jumping in the dlc? Do I slowly ramp up the mayhem modes 'till 10? Are there heroes/skill lines that are significantly different? (Last I remember the only real 'viable' classes were ricochet Amara, crit-1shot everything Flak, unlimited grenade spam Moze and weak ass Zane)

    • @SAVERIX27
      @SAVERIX27 Před 3 lety +1

      Not know, this is an amazing series, maybe after some more dlc you could do a dlc recap or as suggested some guides for returning players. Keep up the good work regardless 😉

    • @zetworp1
      @zetworp1 Před 3 lety +1

      I feel that the plan you outlined at the end of the video sounds correct. Combine this with theory crafting, and continue with that. Then you can have a final look at Bl3, either after 1 year or all major content has dropped.

    • @domdude491
      @domdude491 Před 3 lety +1

      Maybe plan where you would want Borderlands to go with like DLC and changes

    • @kingpenguin2692
      @kingpenguin2692 Před 3 lety +1

      Could we get some love for Tales from The Borderlands? That would be good.

  • @Scorpion122178
    @Scorpion122178 Před 3 lety +782

    Jack didn't need to come back. The casino DLC was actually a perfect nod to him I think. I also didn't hate the twins as a concept. Evil sirens are a cool idea. But they were so annoying all the time and the writing was so bad that I quickly grew to hate any interaction with them.

    • @lockofmetal8894
      @lockofmetal8894 Před 3 lety +46

      The casino was totally Gearbox attempt to give the game some more positivity.
      Not to jab at fans, but so many ppl jerk off everytime Jack is on the screen. It was so easy to make that DLC any decent, just add something Jack related, easy scores.
      The casino was a way for Gearbox to bring Jack back, without doing a flashback of something Jack did in the past.
      I seriously hope we never see anything Jack related, ever again. So Gearbox can stop relying on him to save their butts and actually do something new.

    • @kijjin9893
      @kijjin9893 Před 3 lety +8

      Wowwww like how did you phase lock the entire moooooooooon

    • @TheCulexus
      @TheCulexus Před 3 lety +10

      I literally ended up skipping every single cutscene in the game. Couldn’t be arsed to waste the time that I could be shooting

    • @tastycookiechip
      @tastycookiechip Před 3 lety +3

      This whole series has been filled with garbage writing

    • @chewee4ever811
      @chewee4ever811 Před 2 lety +9

      agreed about the calypso twins. if you ask me they should've made them opposing characters, like perhaps troy would be the more calm collected one who's only going along with tyreen cause he needs her to live, and tyreen could've been the way she is. but they were just the same characters just with different model

  • @johnathanhodskins5820
    @johnathanhodskins5820 Před 3 lety +614

    When captain traunt was more memorable than the main baddies

  • @STierMortal
    @STierMortal Před 3 lety +978

    Y'know, the Maliwan-Atlas War on Promethea could've been the story. The way I see it, Rhys is the more comedic side of Handsome Jack and Katagawa is the more douchebaggy side of Handsome Jack. Say for example, Maliwan could have landed down on Pandora and started mopping bandits off the floor trying to look for the Vault Key.
    *Just a spitball*

    • @polinttalu7102
      @polinttalu7102 Před 3 lety +8

      Aye

    • @Username_834
      @Username_834 Před 3 lety +157

      The Maliwan-Atlas war was the best part of the game, story-wise, IMO.

    • @STierMortal
      @STierMortal Před 3 lety +29

      @@Username_834 It was a good idea for the main story and in itself, a missed opportunity

    • @STALKER777LK
      @STALKER777LK Před 3 lety +17

      Yes. Katagawa and Aurelia were amazing

    • @belakitu8331
      @belakitu8331 Před 3 lety +51

      People might have criticized it for being too similar to the plots of BL1 and 2. However, it also would fit the running theme of the franchise of large corporations not seeming to let up on Pandora until they suck it completely dry of both resources and its inhabitants

  • @thegreatporhumbo9100
    @thegreatporhumbo9100 Před 3 lety +556

    Yknow how Marcus is the one who tells the story? An easy way to retcon the story of this game would just be for the next game to start with someone calling bullshit on his story.

    • @GreenDinoRanger
      @GreenDinoRanger Před 3 lety +135

      I don't remember which video the comment was from, but someone pitched the idea of BL3's story having been made up by the children that Marcus usually tells the stories because he'd gotten drunk and passed out.

    • @WrathKing47
      @WrathKing47 Před 3 lety +16

      @@GreenDinoRanger That would be awesome.

    • @juanbaltazar9756
      @juanbaltazar9756 Před 3 lety +32

      GreenDinoRanger omg yes, and then have them actually go on with the war that they foreshadowed pretty heavily on pre-sequel and tales from the borderlands

    • @Doople
      @Doople Před 3 lety +18

      It would also explain why Ava was so Ava and made a leader

    • @averyunsuspiciousindividual868
      @averyunsuspiciousindividual868 Před 3 lety +23

      Don't do that... Don't give me hope.

  • @Favk21
    @Favk21 Před 3 lety +619

    The game needs 4 more dlc's centered on left out vault hunters, so we can all forget the main plot.

    • @GreenEyedPsycho
      @GreenEyedPsycho Před 3 lety +11

      Favk21 also the b team

    • @Red_Beard2798
      @Red_Beard2798 Před 3 lety +27

      It needs a complete rewrite or retcon at this point. I had an idea of how to get Maya back and include everyone that was neglected but... there's SO much that needs to be addressed and/or corrected that it's nigh-on impossible to not fuck anything else up. Especially with what they did with Siren lore

    • @evilgeek87
      @evilgeek87 Před 3 lety +9

      They need 4 more dlcs to make up for how short the existing 4 are and what a rip off it is given that they charged us for it.

    • @HolyPetRel
      @HolyPetRel Před 3 lety +19

      ..am i the only one who didn't think the story is as insanely bad as everyone thinks it is? I played through the story mode start to finish and I really don't know what's making everyone shit their pants over it

    • @Favk21
      @Favk21 Před 3 lety +34

      @@HolyPetRel My opinion: mediocre drawn out story, ruined by bland/irritating chracters.
      -Most of the old vault hunters and B-team (=pretty much all of the interesting chracters, the main strength of the series) were swept under a rug and replaced by inferior unfunny chracters.
      -The utilized old vault hunters were given Disney Star Wars-ish treatment.
      -The main villains were unfunny, uncharismatic, irritating and not menacing at all. They also lacked any kind of attitude change like Jack after Where angels fear the tread-mission in BL2.
      -The story pretty much disregarded the stuff teased in previous BL games: "war is coming" and origin of the sirens.

  • @Potatomato12
    @Potatomato12 Před 3 lety +569

    One of the biggest mistakes from bl3 is AVA. Like honestly i would prefer pickle who would at least make me chuckle at times compared to Ava who is just annoying and cringey beyond comprehension and of course was the reason Maya died.

    • @magor628
      @magor628 Před 3 lety +71

      Look at me Maya, I'M PICKLE AVA!

    • @Rosa_0000
      @Rosa_0000 Před 3 lety +59

      yeah she is annoying but i think people "overhate" her. Gearbox is probably not going to kill a child in one of their games, but at least she didnt made an appearance in any of the DLC, so, thanks.

    • @Rosa_0000
      @Rosa_0000 Před 3 lety +24

      @BlastinNick people take the whole Maya thing a little too seriously. I personally don't understand the argument, i think Maya would've died there with or without Ava. But i agree with you.

    • @Raymal100
      @Raymal100 Před 3 lety +74

      @BlastinNick Problem is that she is enabled by everyone else (Lilith). Her character would be forgivable if she learned humility by the end of the story, but that wasn't the case. That and the mistreatment of former vault hunters (Sal and Axton are completely absent)

    • @deathjoker666
      @deathjoker666 Před 3 lety +44

      Ava wouldn't been bad if she wasn't forced into a bigger role right away. I mean, had her built up and put her into the bigger roles in future projects. I just hate Ava because of the way they killed Maya just to force Ava onto the fans instead of just allowing Maya stay alive and Ava remain the sidekick to build up character.

  • @fare-5174
    @fare-5174 Před 3 lety +51

    Tannis: It'll be good to have a Siren on the team again.
    Amara: ...
    Tyreen: Imma go and suck out all Sirens now. Bye, superfan!
    Amara: ...

    • @reddbird8599
      @reddbird8599 Před 3 lety +6

      Maya: dies
      All the vault hunters after getting loot: 0_0

  • @homefront1999
    @homefront1999 Před 3 lety +273

    I'm going to be honest, but I do feel that in some way, the story between Atlas and Maliwan was meant to be the main story, but someone higher up came in and saw what was popular, streamers, so had the entire story reworked around that and the Atlas-Maliwan war is now sideshow to what would've been the main story. I'd honestly love either one giant $50 DLC or a whole new game, that redcons BL3's story and focuses it on the Atlas-Maliwan. Since it has both a better villain and story.

    • @Kantech_exe
      @Kantech_exe Před 3 lety +12

      I'm not sure but I heard that they had planned to make jack come back in bl3 but when they heard that the fans didn't wan't jack to come back, they scrapped up everything.

    • @oRAGAK
      @oRAGAK Před 3 lety +2

      They should make dlc that has multiple storylines effected by our choices

    • @SoulshadeVr101
      @SoulshadeVr101 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Kantech_exe I would be fine with Jack returning but add some kind of twist to his return like he foreseen his own death in pre sequels
      And started hiding out and went completely insane being afraid the vault hunters are gonna kill him and instead of killing him just re descover him and take him prisoner and make a plot so he would have a triall on sanctuary after his capture

    • @SoulshadeVr101
      @SoulshadeVr101 Před 3 lety

      Could be a future dlc I would like it

    • @gamerguy6990
      @gamerguy6990 Před 3 lety +7

      ً jack needs to stay dead and gearbox needs to understand how to move on from dragging him through the mud

  • @mathieuedde1465
    @mathieuedde1465 Před 3 lety +152

    I still find it stupid how hector was in a tiny dlc released 7 years into BL2s life cycle and still managed to be a villain miles better than the Calypso Twins

    • @mariovarela6292
      @mariovarela6292 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Great voice actor but the dlc was over before it even started, I wish we could've gotten more from him, he had good motives, his story was great and he wasn't a cringe inducing streaming

  • @epicman3718
    @epicman3718 Před 3 lety +153

    tyreen: WERE GOING TO KILL THE VAULT HUNTER
    Chat: POGGERS, POG CHAMP, POG

    • @danusio7548
      @danusio7548 Před rokem +2

      this comment captures 89% of all of BL3's jokes
      a 10% of it is screaming stuff
      the remaining 1% is tina

  • @Scorpion122178
    @Scorpion122178 Před 3 lety +93

    bragging about it selling 5 mill copies 5 days after release isn't a flex for BL3 its a flex for BL2.

  • @GageHC
    @GageHC Před 3 lety +105

    You left out the best part of Borderlands 3
    Zane's voice lines

    • @draco4826
      @draco4826 Před 3 lety +6

      At some points fl4ks are pretty funny, but zane definetly has the best voice lines.

    • @thee_morpheus
      @thee_morpheus Před 3 lety

      They have a sep video reserved for this boyo

    • @zestytable2199
      @zestytable2199 Před 3 lety

      TRUEEEE

  • @theme7363
    @theme7363 Před 3 lety +215

    playing the story for the first time HURT, and that’s why so many people were unhappy. it’s like fallout four compared to new vegas. we didn’t get more iconic borderlands, but the gameplay is better

    • @theme7363
      @theme7363 Před 3 lety +8

      @Mick Salo yup. even playing bl2 over and over again it was still a good time, as much as I hate going to the dust over and over again it still isn't so much of a chore

    • @taintedascetic
      @taintedascetic Před 3 lety +8

      Thing is that after I played bl3 I couldn't go back to bl2 cause the gameplay is so much more better like the guns feel way better the movement is way better and personally I have 1k hours on bl2 and i love the game its just I actually like bl3 a lot more than bl2 (my opinion, yours can be different :)

    • @gampie13
      @gampie13 Před 2 lety +3

      @@taintedascetic while i agree on the gameplay, for me it just made me uninstall all versions borderlands, and i have not touched it since the story was so shit to trudge throu, that i could not even get motivated to play, but i wanted the gameplay of 3, so if i tried 2, the gameplay was less, and i just uninstalled bouth.

    • @jimhalpert3409
      @jimhalpert3409 Před 2 lety

      @@gampie13 that’s honestly just stupid lol, I fully agree that the gameplay is amazing but man that doesn’t make any sense bl2 is still incredible and has amazing gameplay

    • @gampie13
      @gampie13 Před 2 lety +2

      @@jimhalpert3409 not realy, the gameplay of 3 (thank god slag is finaly gonne), is so smooth compared to 2, it is a big improvement, but the story and characters are utter trash, so when you have felt the gameplay of 3, going back to 2 feels like a slog, but the story and characters of 2 is good, but due to the imbalance, and that I notice it, i rather just not play any of them

  • @hellfireincubus1721
    @hellfireincubus1721 Před 3 lety +310

    Also Sanctuary should have a fast travel point that takes you to the bridge as well. All the times you have to stop what you're doing just to talk to lillith is just annoying.

    • @gustavonomegrande
      @gustavonomegrande Před 3 lety +21

      I'd rather not have to speak with her, just skip this objective and progress the way it should be.

    • @ice6978
      @ice6978 Před 3 lety +4

      @@gustavonomegrande we all do, but we know that is not going to happen, sadly

    • @jakelawrence1086
      @jakelawrence1086 Před 3 lety +2

      @@gustavonomegrande I'm just glad she's dead

    • @Xxrocknrollgod
      @Xxrocknrollgod Před 3 lety +2

      They already took away picking up ammo, if u don’t wanna do anything in the game don’t play

    • @DragouMC
      @DragouMC Před 3 lety +1

      ⭕️ Talk to Lillith

  • @therealdude707
    @therealdude707 Před 3 lety +160

    For it it's faults, I liked that in the presequel the game acknowledged the vault hunter you chose

    • @WrathKing47
      @WrathKing47 Před 3 lety +5

      That was a nice touch.

    • @brandonuzumaki
      @brandonuzumaki Před 3 lety +23

      Yeah, in BL 3 you are either "Vault Hunter, Killer or Sup", actually the Vault Hunters themselves are the only ones who use thier names sometimes lol.

    • @Brinta3
      @Brinta3 Před 3 lety +10

      I had much more fun with The Pre-Sequel than with 3.

    • @superkdude8D
      @superkdude8D Před 2 lety +9

      I loved the pre sequel hunters cause of that. So much personality. Its a shame they did Aurelia dirty considering her character arc in that game

    • @Br-kc2jy
      @Br-kc2jy Před 2 lety +1

      I haven't played Bl3. Do they not acknowledge Amara as a siren? Do they just call her "Vault-Hunter"?
      This is a genuine question, it would be stupid if they didn't, since the entire story revolves around sirens

  • @Strykerx31
    @Strykerx31 Před 3 lety +42

    My Favorite things in BL3 you didn't mention:
    Weapons brands had a gimmick to them.
    Fast travels, especially to Vehicles.
    Integration to streamers.
    Ice element, Beam attachments Ground slam return from TPS.
    Guardian Ranks additions.
    Multiplayer modes
    Lvl syncing capabilities.
    Side objectives in the world.
    New Vehicle system.

    • @enjoshi-godrez8775
      @enjoshi-godrez8775 Před 3 lety +12

      "Side objectives" you mean the thing that existed in bl1. Also weapon gimmicks were in bl2. You dont praise something that was universally regarded as good for leaving it in.

    • @Strykerx31
      @Strykerx31 Před 3 lety +10

      @@enjoshi-godrez8775 No, the Notorious Monster hunts, Part hunting for Clap Trap and Ellie. Propaganda Towers, and the others in the DLC.

    • @ThyCorruptor
      @ThyCorruptor Před 3 lety +7

      @@enjoshi-godrez8775 There's more side objectives with better rewards in Bl3 though. The weapons gimmicks in Bl3 are little more pronounced and impact the entire gun for almost every manufacturer. They took the systems they had already and improved them. They did that for almost every aspect of Bl3 all the core mechanics of the game are the same and improved slightly. They just really mis-stepped with how their loot pools and balancing worked. Even now It's sort of rough but fuck BL3 is my favorite borderlands game now. Especially because of the level syncing I can play with my friends of any level and not just stomp everything as long as I'm not using some ridiculous OP gun. At first Bl3 was sort of a dissapointment but picking it back up again recently it is really more enjoyable. I felt the same way about bl2 actually. I thought they made the game way worse when bl2 released I bought it the day it came out and I didn't play it again for a few months then tried it again and loved it.

  • @gordo8354
    @gordo8354 Před 3 lety +370

    Borderlands 2 had something that 3 does not: *charm*
    The game oozes charm and personality from every frostbitten crevasse. With 3, it was like Gearbox tried to replicate the charm instead of creating more of it.

    • @jsportsupdates807
      @jsportsupdates807 Před 3 lety +21

      Exactly man and the characters and locations were j not as memorable

    • @jakpote88
      @jakpote88 Před 3 lety +13

      TRUE! borderland 3 feels artificial

    • @knavenformed9436
      @knavenformed9436 Před 3 lety +22

      I don't know if they tried to recreate jack-shit from BL2 or 1
      At the 1 hour mark when I was doing a sidequest about "HAHAHHA XD SUCCC SUCCC SUCCC XD HAHHA SHIT EATING SKAG SUCC SUCC" I had lost my hope on the game.
      Even worse the whole main story was just the same recurgitated year old memes.

    • @gordo8354
      @gordo8354 Před 3 lety +4

      @the super bros gameplay wise, 3 is the best, but it falls flat on its face with every other aspect, mainly the writing

    • @MegaNightmare4
      @MegaNightmare4 Před 3 lety +8

      Classic attempt to recreate lightning in a bottle without understanding what made it so great in the first place.

  • @southerndandy4910
    @southerndandy4910 Před 3 lety +1612

    BL3, the game I looked forward to the most and played the least.

    • @JohnnyEstacado
      @JohnnyEstacado Před 3 lety +28

      Dayum, i feel ya

    • @DominatorElite4
      @DominatorElite4 Před 3 lety +67

      I am still playing bl3

    • @Reeses7501
      @Reeses7501 Před 3 lety +13

      Felt that

    • @nicholassullivan1239
      @nicholassullivan1239 Před 3 lety +97

      Opposite for me, I was burned out after previous titles and wasn't sure that I would have much fun w BL3.
      Damn was I wrong.
      BL3 is the title i have enjoyed and played the most.
      Still having fun with it.

    • @frankw2010
      @frankw2010 Před 3 lety +30

      Yeh not quite borderlands 2

  • @griffinoppenheimer9799
    @griffinoppenheimer9799 Před 3 lety +38

    The one thing that they will never be able to fix in this game that no patching or work will fix is the shitty main story and the lackluster story in the krieg dlc. The abandonment of past vault hunters and the lack of player character interactions with the world voice wise like in the presequel.

  • @mumblerogre2455
    @mumblerogre2455 Před 3 lety +150

    I wish there was an option to turn off everyone’s voice accept Zane and Fl4k

    • @dumpy8312
      @dumpy8312 Před 3 lety +7

      Yeah there should be a separate volume slider for Player Dialogue

    • @NutsorSomethingBerserk
      @NutsorSomethingBerserk Před 3 lety +28

      Their dialogue is honestly top notch. They have some of the best lines in the entire game. Been playing through the dlc’s and Zane and Fl4k have been making me and my friend bust out laughing.

    • @mumblerogre2455
      @mumblerogre2455 Před 3 lety +20

      brev pad
      Zane really nails the fusion of professionalism and insanity
      Fl4k is funny because he tries and fails to fit in with people which makes his constant belittlement of people even better

    • @TheJCghost
      @TheJCghost Před 3 lety +4

      Best boys right there

    • @NutsorSomethingBerserk
      @NutsorSomethingBerserk Před 3 lety +3

      @@mumblerogre2455 Exactly! They are written and performed so well by their voice actors and fit perfectly in the universe. In a game where everyone feels like a over the top or watered down versions of themselves, Zane and Fl4k are standouts for having consistency to their characters dialogue and performance. Both characters would fit seemlessly in Borderlands 2, Pre-Sequel, or Tales From The Borderlands in my personal opinion.

  • @blakebarner
    @blakebarner Před 3 lety +82

    I never minded buying SDUs with eridium. The loot from crazy Earl's machine is worse than world drops anyway, and the only other purchasable items are cosmetic.

    • @shatterhusk6755
      @shatterhusk6755 Před 3 lety +5

      At least now the gun gun can shoot legendaries with eridium, so there's a use for it besides slots, and being 250 eridium per shot means it's not necessarily going to shower you with OP gear or be game-breaking.

  • @JT-rc4ng
    @JT-rc4ng Před 3 lety +37

    The largest addition to BL3 is the ability to fast-travel. I've lost count on how many times I saved and quit in BL2 just to get to the start of the map and not even the map I want to go.

    • @aeperez94
      @aeperez94 Před rokem

      this here, replaying bl2 after bl3 is just a chore

  • @aznpholyfe6693
    @aznpholyfe6693 Před 3 lety +58

    borderlands 1 felt more hardcore nitty gritty. post apocalytic wasteland kind of westerny.
    Borderlands 2 was a masterpiece of a game. variety of environents and enemies also 6 total playable vault hunters. lots of personality in npc and story
    bl3 wasnt the same goodness as previous installmenta

    • @altoid345b
      @altoid345b Před 3 lety +17

      Borderlands 1 had meh story and writing
      Borderlands 2 had good story and writing
      Borderlands 3 actively ruined characters from previous games and had very bad story and writing

  • @sampsunmartenson7818
    @sampsunmartenson7818 Před 3 lety +392

    Honestly this game needs a pre sequel type game, keep the gun play and the engine and just make a new game with a better story and loot system

    • @joshuamuller3621
      @joshuamuller3621 Před 3 lety +10

      I'm thinking the same thing here, I'm hoping by the end of year 2/3 for BL3 a Pre-Sequel type needs to be released.

    • @GanRPG
      @GanRPG Před 3 lety +63

      Borderlands: The Pre-Threequel

    • @rickkcir2151
      @rickkcir2151 Před 3 lety +39

      Fuck yes, I replayed borderlands 2 an unhealthy amount of times because the game was fun and the story was amazing. I couldn’t even max out every character for 3, not because the gameplay was bad, but because the story was so shitty and cringey that playing through it felt more like a chore than a pleasure.

    • @_ANDRE.
      @_ANDRE. Před 3 lety +7

      As much as i loved Pre Sequel i doubt people would like another Pre Sequel (i mean they already hated the first one). Especially because the Calypsos are just horrible even with more backstory.

    • @STALKER777LK
      @STALKER777LK Před 3 lety

      Loot system is optimal for the marketing theyre going for. Guys its 2020 a bnk3r situation does not cut for the genre
      What you personally want may not be ideal for them or for us

  • @bohrokgaming5770
    @bohrokgaming5770 Před 3 lety +33

    what i would love to see added to BL3 is some kind of Adventure mode (much like Diablo) when you beat the story at least once you can start right at the post game with a brand new character and not redo the whole story. I feel that would be a MASSIVE improvement to the game, and also have TVHM be something you turn on and not do the whole story again.

    • @travm5540
      @travm5540 Před 7 měsíci

      Idk tvhm and uvhm was the reason why i enjoyed the game. It made sense and acted like a new game plus to continue your character plus on borderlands 2 specifically you ended up learning a lot by being forced into going through multiple playthroughs. Op levels you had to run something 8 times and was fair challenge whereas mayhem you instantly got bored of because you could just go turn it on/off, that killed mayhem for me because the op levels was the grind back in da day.

  • @majorastorm
    @majorastorm Před 3 lety +38

    My issue with the game is how awful the main story is. For me, it lost much steam and potential to be great after Maya's death.
    I really enjoyed the Atlas vs Maliwan arc, and basically everything leading up to the first vault, but then all the potential left. Katigawa was intresting, but after the atlas vs Maliwan arc, You're stuck with these Stupid obnoxious twins !
    Plus the funeral for Maya's death was a joke, Ava is more hate-able then the actual main antagonist. She treats the leader like crap, then inherits everything, including the ship!
    The DLCs are fun, but short. Krieg's and the Handsome Jack DLCs are easily my favorites.
    The Wedding could of been great if they had more characters returning.
    Zero, Axton, Salvador, B team, and The other former members of the crimson raiders should of been there for the wedding as well, it would of been more impactful and a better experience imo.
    Ghenna had the best weapons add on hands down, but the least interesting story imo

    • @sarasmedberg8203
      @sarasmedberg8203 Před 2 lety +3

      to me it was strange to only have axton and salvador return through some dlc boss raid, since both zer0 and maya (gaige later and with krieg getting his own dlc) was allowed to make a proper apperance. hammerlock is such a staple to the borderlands game and for people not to show up to the most important day of his life? dang.

    • @travm5540
      @travm5540 Před 7 měsíci

      Least memorable DLC for me was hammerlocks, I did not give a fuck about him getting married or tentacle shit. The locations were cool and gaige coming back was amazing but fuck that boring ass story. Should’ve brought scarlet back.

  • @BrentBlueAllen
    @BrentBlueAllen Před 3 lety +11

    I absolutely loved the changes to mobility introduced by 3. Mantling and sliding are so fun and I really miss them when I go back to 1/2/PS.

  • @vholu2818
    @vholu2818 Před 3 lety +91

    The problem isn't that I "disrespect their hard work" by being pissed, it's that they're ruining all the hard work they've put in by implementing unnecessary systems. It doesn't matter how good the gunplay or their loot generator is when all you have to care about are anointments. The gun becomes a vehicle to support the best anointments for your character, nothing more.
    Then, mayhem modifiers are just a non-tested or even thought through mess. If the idea was for it to be random, why can we reroll it on the fly? If we can reroll it on the fly, why can't we pick and choose? Players just pick the least annoying ones (wasting time clicking the reroll button until your optimal rolls show up) and ultimately forget the system even exists, bar some sudden deaths from DEATHs hidden in too many spell effects.
    I'm not mad or unpleasable, I just don't understand why Gearbox ruins a perfectly fine handmade cake by putting too many disgusting store-bought cheap candy cherries on top.

    • @jiopa
      @jiopa Před 3 lety +10

      The simple answer is that they took a big swing and missed. I doubt anointments are going anywhere. Perhaps change is coming when it comes to mayhem modifiers, but man they are taking their time with it. That being said, I personally respect that they wanted to do something new. They just need refinement.

    • @aimannorzahariwod
      @aimannorzahariwod Před 3 lety +2

      I wouldn't say making changes is unnecessary, that's the whole point of game development; to test systems and push boundaries. If they remade Borderlands 2 with B3 gunplay then you'll get idiots that will still complain saying the game is still the same. The mechanics in b3 are hit and miss but for the most part the game stands on its own and is a respectable entry. We're only a year in into the game, just wait and see Gearbox refine the mechanics a bit more, they're fully aware.

    • @vholu2818
      @vholu2818 Před 3 lety +9

      @@aimannorzahariwod I'm developing games myself and theres a huge difference between having a cool sounding idea and trying something new and actually seeing the idea through by crafting a sound game design around it. They didn't think things through or settled on a compromise when seemingly opposite ideas clashed with each other. The question if mayhem modifiers are supposed to be random or player controlled is just one example.
      Is it an action-driven or a story-driven game? The skeleton and focus on gunplay come from the action-driven approach, the frequent interruptions and long winded dialogues and before-patch unskippable cutscenes from the story-driven one. They clash, causing the story-heavy parts to grind the flow to a halt way too frequently.
      Is it loot or character progression based? Obviously loot-based, but the interface doesn't follow that. No loadouts, no filters, harshly limited bagspace.
      The game has two currencies that are ultimately worthless in the endgame - that's an entire resource system dangling there, ready to be picked up by a new endgame-system but ultimately just left ignored.
      The damage formula is all screwed up with non-uniformly declared names for things (gun/weapon damage, splash/aoe damage, etc) and double dippings everywhere. This caused scaling to go so out of hand that the only form of difficulty they can provide are enemies healthgating you immediately, rendering most if not all defensive options except crowd control and life steal pointless - or by creating bullet sponges aka Guardian Takedown.
      I love this game, don't get me wrong, but the mistakes in system design and to some extent fundamental game design are just student level.

    • @ridiculouslyoverpoweredsup4421
      @ridiculouslyoverpoweredsup4421 Před 3 lety

      Annoitments are the biggest problem with this game.

    • @ridiculouslyoverpoweredsup4421
      @ridiculouslyoverpoweredsup4421 Před 3 lety

      @@aimannorzahariwod only out for one year??? Really lol

  • @yuyanli1983
    @yuyanli1983 Před 3 lety +55

    Loved all your previous videos on the borderlands series, definitely deserve way more subscribers

  • @user-vs5nb5uq3e
    @user-vs5nb5uq3e Před 3 lety +83

    I feel like there is too many legendaries, with not enough being usable.

    • @bigcmlg
      @bigcmlg Před 3 lety +11

      Legendaries don’t even feel hard to get no point to farm. I get them all the time

    • @MegaNightmare4
      @MegaNightmare4 Před 3 lety +19

      Once I got my first legendary at level 3, I literally never used a gun lower than orange for the rest of the playthrough. There was no reason to. I was getting more legendary's than I could feasibly use. I was getting two legendary's on average from every named enemy I killed. My level 60 character has over 200 orange weapons stored in the bank.
      What part of that is "legendary?"

    • @geert574
      @geert574 Před 3 lety +1

      Just bin the base game legendaries it's all about paid dlc guns no wonder

    • @Altzar2011
      @Altzar2011 Před 3 lety +5

      They're too common....
      Common Legendaries.
      Something doesn't stick with that.

    • @Pendergast891
      @Pendergast891 Před 3 lety

      @@geert574 the monarch, backburner, plaguebearer, hellwalker, and hellshock are some of the best weapons in the game. Obviously the flipper and lightshow are hilariously overpowered in most builds, but aren't necessary. The only 'necessary' dlc i feel is the handsome jack casino one, just so zane players can get a functional class mod. Seeing dead is/was their only viable class mod, but with the recent buffs to others recently there might be some that come close.

  • @slimmortal213
    @slimmortal213 Před 3 lety +19

    The biggest issue with this game since day 1 through today is the REQUIREMENT of farming for anointments rather than items. It is not fun to see the weapon you're looking for drop only for it to be completely unusable because it doesn't have the anointment that you need
    This completely killed the endgame farming loop that is what made BL2 so much fun for so long

    • @nathanhendrickson790
      @nathanhendrickson790 Před 7 měsíci

      But that’s in bl2 also. Sure almost all legendaries will do work in nvhm maybe even tvhm. But by the time you got to uvhm the amount of weapons that work get cut down extremely quickly. Sure you’re not farming for annointments but by the time you’re at level 80 there’s only a handful of farm locations that are actually worth and even THAT handful gets leasened extremely the further you get in op levels. Once you’re in op 10 there’s like 7 guns legendary or above that arent either bad by endgame, outclassed by the sandhawk or even a blue quad, or just a joke gearbox made for laughs. Like what’s the point in farming for a Dpuh when I can do just fine with a sandhawk? Why would I farm for a chain lightning or magic missile when the lightning bolt or slag transfusion can work fine? What the hell is the rocket pistol you get from wilhelm good for by endgame besides free rocket ammo? Yes annointments and farming for them is pretty tedious but let’s not pretend bl2s loot system doesn’t have any flaws at all

    • @slimmortal213
      @slimmortal213 Před 7 měsíci

      @@nathanhendrickson790 the flaws are in the balancing of the game in op levels, has nothing to do with the loot system. Bl2 has by far the best loot system in any of the games and there is no argument to the contrary

    • @nathanhendrickson790
      @nathanhendrickson790 Před 7 měsíci

      @@slimmortal213 if legendaries drop a lot more in 3 gearbox obviously saw that something was wrong in previous games and I wonder what the source of the problem is? Not bl2 it couldn’t possibly be. I mean legendaries are so rare and a lot of them get useless pretty quickly it’s the most rewarding loot system in history even though it takes 20 runs or more to get anything legendary above in the game. Every improvement is meant to fix a problem and if gearbox saw more loot at better rates as a solution to said problem then that problem had to come from somewhere. I’m sorry I know you love bl2 but it’s loot system had problems no matter how much you dick ride that game

  • @wolfmarine6780
    @wolfmarine6780 Před 3 lety +28

    I think it’s funny how “the door” in ascension bluff was a big mystery and now after the final DLC nothing has been done with it...

    • @brandonuzumaki
      @brandonuzumaki Před 3 lety +3

      People found out there's some sort of arena in there, and in the launch trailer you could see the Vault Hunters fighting a giant Varkid in that same arena, perhaps a Raid Boss, but it was scraped from the game before launch.
      Fast forward a few months, they announced a new paid DLC is coming in october, with the new skills trees and a new game mode, and surprise, they teased that Raid Boss again, meaning they are either finally putting it in the game for free when the new DLC arrives (kinda like the Takedowns and Events), or he will be locked behind said paid DLC, witch is kinda bullshit in my opinion.

    • @grandduelslover3055
      @grandduelslover3055 Před 3 lety +1

      1: it opened with the current dlc. 2: how did you know that phyco krieg was the last dlc? Because it isnt

  • @Snowy_Yuki666
    @Snowy_Yuki666 Před 3 lety +7

    The Problem with Anointed Gear is that your base weapon can be an amazing weapon but if it has the wrong anoitment or even none, the weapons is basicly worse then a blue or purple counterpart with the right anointment. Which is why many people would prefeer the Game without those.

  • @dizzynarutofan100
    @dizzynarutofan100 Před 3 lety +12

    I feel like one of the best things about the QoL that wasn't mentioned is the level 2 action skill. It gets you into the vault hunter you picked RIGHT away.
    Can't think of any bad that you didn't mention.
    Maybe a good topic would be a review of the season pass now that it's over.

  • @chrismarubbio7403
    @chrismarubbio7403 Před 3 lety +8

    I feel it wasnt to replace two, its like... a filler episode. Just to show how things changed after Jack left the scene since there was so much behind him. And thats what i feel like this is, a filler arc to hold you out til the big finale

  • @coreymckee4844
    @coreymckee4844 Před 3 lety +21

    My issues arent with the gameplay and overall game. But with the STORY. Remember when the watcher from BL2 apeared and saves athena and teased a grand war that "your gonna need all the vault hunters you can get".? Remember that? I do. I mean what ever happend to that watcher and Athena to begin with??! I seriously doubt this "war" was the two obnoxious cringeworthy twins we got in BL3... something drastic must have changed during development time.. I wanted the story that was teased in BL2 now the trashfire we got now. The WORST part of BL3 wad Ava. As soon as lilith handed over sanctuary to her despite how Ava was throughout the entire game, I shut the game off mid cutscene. getting one of the most beloved characters killed and blaming lilith for it when it was Ava who wouldn't do as she was told, then somehow is completely worth handing the entirety of sanctuary to at the end, boggles my mind! The only thing BL3 has going for it was the gameplay. The story was dogshit. And the dlc weren't all that great either..🙄
    Now if you'll excuse me, im going back to play the last 3 games again dreaming of a miracle that somehow this game was a bad dream and the real BL3 is still on the way..

    • @yaboi-km2qn
      @yaboi-km2qn Před 2 lety

      they're saying the whole way through that she's going to be a siren and she just gets siren powers at the and having undergone absolutley no character development. And what even is her back story? Is she an orphan? who were her perants? where did she meet maya? WHEN did she meet maya? why is she going to be a siren? you know nothing about her.

  • @awesomesauce5974
    @awesomesauce5974 Před 3 lety +6

    Don't forget the bullshit that happened leading up to release. The epic game store controversy, the silencing of youtubers like SupMatto, the drama with Rys's original voice actor as well...i could go on

  • @xSouthernDiscomfortx
    @xSouthernDiscomfortx Před 3 lety +4

    Upon launch I wasn't so much a fan, but the sheer gameplay diversity brought me back recently. Great build potential and just perfected gameplay feel in this one.

  • @draco4826
    @draco4826 Před 3 lety

    Also great job on the video! I like the way you assesed everything and laid it out to explain.

  • @KaL1806
    @KaL1806 Před 3 lety +4

    In my opinion, the 4th DLC for Borderlands was the best DLC for Borderlands 3...and probably saved the game for me. It was fun, crazy, a total mess but it was emotional. It wasn´t just a crazy guy who does crazy things, Krieg was a character build up in previous games and the DLC showed why he is who he is. It was amazing and no joke, the ending made me cry a little. This is what i want from Borderlands. Borderlands is a crazy game with crazy guns and jokes...but it´s also a game was known for amazing story telling. And it´s weird that the DLC i expected the least to have a good story, actually had the best story since Borderlands 2. I need more and since it got announced that we get more DLC`s, i really hope they continue with DLC`s like this and learn from their mistakes they did at the main storyline in Borderlands 3.

  • @netia2
    @netia2 Před 3 lety +120

    "Gearbox could of given up entirely n left the game to fester in a pool of its own sorrow" STOP IT!! This franchise is too big n too lucrative for them to do that. As gamers we HAVE to stop making excuses for these devs n stop patting them on the head for fixing THEIR broken product. I love this franchise but this launch was nowhere near as smooth technically as BL2. Yes its gotten better but so has a ton of other games that came out broken. That is the problem. Damn near every AAA game releases in a broken state to then be fixed later. When do gamers say enough is enough?

    • @kijjin9893
      @kijjin9893 Před 3 lety +15

      When he said that I was mad because it wasn’t just the borderlands in danger it was their rep and if they abandoned it the company would have essentially committed suicide

    • @netia2
      @netia2 Před 3 lety +1

      @@kijjin9893 exactly, 100% agree.

    • @netia2
      @netia2 Před 3 lety +5

      @@TannerLindberg what u said about the worst reviewed games being the highest sellers is so true. It brings to mind the debacle of madden 21 that just released a few wks ago.

    • @OfficalSketch
      @OfficalSketch Před 3 lety +3

      Tanner Fox God that grammar and “entitled”?

    • @Tcrror
      @Tcrror Před 3 lety +5

      @@TannerLindberg Use punctuation. Become smarter. "Gameing" addiction isn't real, because that isn't a word. And here's an idea... Allow people to be excited about whatever they want. The world is messed up - let people find happiness.

  • @TheGateShallStand
    @TheGateShallStand Před 3 lety +27

    Pain and Terror are the best characters in this damn game, and they're a single use bossfight. Penn and Teller back at it again, with good shenanigans, saving a single Bossfight within BL3. Rest of the sucked though, could have used the son of Face McShooty

  • @vsmyh5152
    @vsmyh5152 Před 3 lety +14

    It would be great to see season pass 2 with 4 or more dlc's including Salvador axton Dr zed and possibly amara's home planet.

  • @FullThrottleTaco
    @FullThrottleTaco Před 3 lety +3

    Well said on everything. Touches on the positives and negatives pretty well. Thanks for making it!

  • @Rosa_0000
    @Rosa_0000 Před 3 lety +83

    about that ending, i really liked what op said. Gearbox could have just left the game and return only to fix some stuff and give us paid DLC, but they keep giving us new hotfixes EVERY SINGLE WEEK since launch. I love to see the progress this game made in one year, it shows they care.
    There are many more things to fix in this game still, specially the endgame. They announced "new gamemodes", so maybe those will have a big impact. Im very hopeful about what is to come with Year 2!

    • @jacklucas2123
      @jacklucas2123 Před 3 lety +19

      I know what you’re describing is typically a good thing but in my personal experience I would’ve preferred if they just admitted they weren’t ready at release, took 6 months to fix the game, did it in a big patch or dlc that has actually been playtested and expertly balanced by the developers to be a good change to the game. The trial and error live service model can definitely be useful for quality of life issues and constantly updating the game does show the developers care and stuff. (Also probably financial lunacy to put your game on redevelopment hiatus for 6 months) Just for me personally it left me feeling like I was playing the beta for borderlands 3 and the “real” game AKA the finished version would just be released on next gen with all of the kinks sorted out. I really hope that I’m just speaking from a place of ignorance though as I’m definitely part of the fan base that has left the game. So it makes me really happy to hear that for those who have stuck with it it seems like the changes have been positive and worth it and you’re looking forward to the future of the game! Any tips on if it’s worth jumping back on now after DLC 4? Are things relatively stable? Should I wait for the “handsome collection” of BL3 on next gen?

    • @Rosa_0000
      @Rosa_0000 Před 3 lety +15

      @@jacklucas2123 about that "beta testing for the game", i understand completely. I have been playing since day 1 and i can safely say that this game was DEFINETIVELY NOT READY at launch. The first 9 or so months really felt like i paid full price for a beta, which is more insulting the more i think about it.
      To your question: it depends. I'll list both the positives and the negatives about the current state of the game.
      The bad stuff: the endgame is still kind of boring, and mayhem levels are kind of weird. By weird i mean that you can just skip all the way to Mayhem 10 as soon as you unlock Mayhem Mode, which is a weird design choice in opinion, because what is the incentive in doing endgame farming? Also mayhem modifiers can get very annoying at times. The game also doesn't run very well, specially on consoles. It has improved since lauch though.
      Now, the good things about the game: the farming had improved MASSIVELY. Pretty much every single unique enemy in the game has a dedicated drop, so you don't have to farm Graveward for every single drop you want anymore. No more rare spawns bullshit, they are all garanteed now. A lot of weapons have been massively buffed, which adds to the weapon and build diversity a lot. We finally have endgame content, being in the form of Maliwan/Guardian Takedowns, both giving the player new and interesting loot. Characters have been improved, specially their action skills, which now deal a lot more damage (specially Iron Bear, that thing is a beast) and action skills are no longer just used to proc annoints, they actually have an impact in the endgame. Speaking about them, we got new annoints to fit more builds, and a lot of useless annoints were removed. All the DLCs are really good too, all of them have a much better story compared to the base game, and all of them have extremely strong pieces of gear that are very useful and very fun at the endgame. Mayhem got revamped, no longer you have to deal with stupid modifiers that reduce your damage (for the most part). Also, Gearbox haven't nerfed a single weapon for like 8 months with the exception of 1 weapon that was bugged and was doing insane damage.
      Overall, the game is in a much better spot. Oh, and yesterday they announced new skill trees for EVERY SINGLE VAULT HUNTER, crossplay between all platforms, and everyone that owns BL3 for the current gen will get a free upgrade for the next gen, maintaining all their saves.

    • @jacklucas2123
      @jacklucas2123 Před 3 lety +8

      Red M&M thanks so much for taking the time to reply so in depth. I’m gonna give it a shot! I had pre ordered the game so have all the dlc, and I’m keen to see what they’ve added and changed. Seems like they really have been listening to players like you who have kept going so credit to you guys as the community for making our thoughts heard. At the end of the day from what you’ve described things are looking up, and im super happy to hear that as a fan of the series. Cheers :)

    • @Rosa_0000
      @Rosa_0000 Před 3 lety +6

      @@jacklucas2123 cheers indeed my friend. Borderlands 3 is only going to get better from here, i believe. I'm happy to see you returning to the game!

    • @chigchum9602
      @chigchum9602 Před 3 lety

      And they said gearbox didn't care...

  • @ChivalrousSnake
    @ChivalrousSnake Před 3 lety

    It will always be important to cover the negatives of any ongoing service game. And this was a really good video man, I'm looking forward to the next.

  • @cat-jm3vu
    @cat-jm3vu Před 3 lety +1

    Im really glad that this Borderlands series has reeled me into a wonderful channel that i didnt know i longed for until i saw it. I subscribed right away because i believe this channel should be the voice of the Borderlands community. But i think other additions to the series would be nice, maybe Tales From the Borderlands?

  • @DietaryCar
    @DietaryCar Před 3 lety +70

    Annointments shoukd have been attatchments you could add to a weapon at a cost.
    I would have also liked to have a base (bare) legendary weapon drop from bosses. And then have bosses drop weapon parts for the weapon. Take the base weapon and parts to sanctuary and build your dream weapon, and add on an annointment attatchment. Make that shit cost alot of eridium too.

    • @Raptchur
      @Raptchur Před 3 lety +4

      That's a good idea. I was thinking before i finished reading your comment, make it cost a huuuge amount of eridium or something. And/or having to dismantle similar weapons.

    • @ridiculouslyoverpoweredsup4421
      @ridiculouslyoverpoweredsup4421 Před 3 lety +11

      Take the power out of annoitments and put them back into the vaulthunters skill tree.

    • @Gaming_Sparky58
      @Gaming_Sparky58 Před 3 lety

      Eridium would have been good here more of a reason to farm it, no new items have been added to the Eridium store since launch you just use it for gun gun or vending machine.

    • @knavenformed9436
      @knavenformed9436 Před 3 lety +2

      I hate anointments so much, note I played during old Mayhem.
      In a game all about guns and loot the biggest power factor is some bullshit space magic giving unbalanced boosts to different classes.

    • @brandonuzumaki
      @brandonuzumaki Před 3 lety +1

      Like King said here, annointments are waaaay to powerfull, they should have been more like Gemstone/Moonstone effects from BL2/TPS.
      But them being an attachment would be cool, kinda like components in Grim Dawn.

  • @radshad0wfox245
    @radshad0wfox245 Před 3 lety +15

    Technically tannis only became a siren around the time when angel dies in bl2

  • @charlesheinrichs7806
    @charlesheinrichs7806 Před 2 lety +1

    Add to that the fact that Ava had a restoration or redemption Arc that was completely cut out and the Calypso twins have this rivalry building that just disappeared. Seems like some corners were cut.

  • @MultiNaruto900
    @MultiNaruto900 Před 2 lety

    Honestly, being able to buy all the ammo with one button is one god tier QoL addition.
    Gearbox add this to all Borderlands games PLEASE

    • @MultiNaruto900
      @MultiNaruto900 Před 2 lety

      @@J90I Maybe not completely because my laptop would literally not be able to run BL2 if it was BL3's stuff.
      Also, _BL:TPS_ deserves so much more love than what it has now. It's an underrated entry in the series.

  • @Neosapien11
    @Neosapien11 Před 3 lety +3

    The reason I stopped playing was the level cap increases. I farmed like crazy, and had almost even weapon, only to have them all become obsolete. Like how hard it was the get something like the recurring ghast call, out the window.

  • @theFOODslayer
    @theFOODslayer Před 3 lety +3

    This game is one of my favourite games ever, i played it from launch and was hooked! (It was my 3rd BL game) although it did have a lot of bad things like the mayhempocalips, i still enjoyed it to this day.

  • @BPD308
    @BPD308 Před 2 lety +2

    I’ve just started playing BL3 recently, for the second time, and love it even more this time for some reason

  • @eva4031
    @eva4031 Před 3 lety

    this series is awesome! keep up the good work mydude

  • @a1goldenrunner
    @a1goldenrunner Před 3 lety +4

    What ruined the experience of Bl3 for me was the fact that around the time DLC 1 launched, a bug deleted all my fast travel points after I already found all of them. I wasn't going to fully explore every single planet again just so I could fast travel again.
    I did play the dlcs however and I liked the 1st and 4th ones more than the middle 2

  • @Lord_necromancer
    @Lord_necromancer Před 2 lety +4

    I had to go into the game files and remove the dialogue to play through the game again. No one EVER SHUTS UP in this game. There are more lines of dialogue than there are guns or bullets in this game and you spend about 80% of the story playing on your phone while you wait for the cutscenes or ECHO conversations to end so you can start playing again. I also hate the fact that your character has no impact on the story whatsoever. You are never once acknowledged or treated as if you exist at any point other than "hey you, go here and do this."

  • @XDealerOfDoomX
    @XDealerOfDoomX Před 2 lety +1

    i never finished the game fully, but now this video is making me want to give it another shot

  • @khalel610
    @khalel610 Před 3 lety

    Leaving BL3 after 9 months then coming back to it right now feels so refreshing knowing i have so much content and improvements to look forward to.

  • @KTW_Monterrattian
    @KTW_Monterrattian Před 3 lety +18

    You should cover tales of the borderlands

  • @belakitu8331
    @belakitu8331 Před 3 lety +10

    When you look at other "Games as a service" style games such as Anthem or Destiny. Anthem has become completely abandoned for the time being, at least until the devs decide to release their "Anthem 2.0" overhaul. While Destiny 2, I felt had similar issues at launch as BL3 did, but it too kept up with its player base and now serves as another great looter shooter.
    And that's the thing, we don't know how long Gearbox is going to keep adding on to BL3, which is also a double-edged sword. I would love it if they allowed for the time-limited events to be purchasable and permanent, that's one of my major complaints with the game currently. I, for one, never got the chance to play the cartels or the valentines events. So hopefully the future DLC's (as mentioned in the recent Gearbox showcase) will be more like the headhunter packs of BL2 and less like these limited-time events. I am excited for the 4th skill trees that will be added to each of the vault hunters, that should really allow for more build diversity and allow for annointments that are unusable on certain characters (like "on Action Skill End" annointments on Zane) to finally be viable.
    I hope that Year 2 for BL3 provides lots of fun and exciting content that fans, and assuredly the newcomers that will arrive with Next-Gen consoles, can play for years on end. I do feel like BL3 has come a long way since launch, while also having some of the best DLC's in the series to date, so here's hoping it can become on par with launch BL2 by the end of its content cycle!

  • @YaaSalty...0_o
    @YaaSalty...0_o Před 2 lety

    Amen bro! AMAZING VIDEO DUDE!

  • @matthewharris3808
    @matthewharris3808 Před 3 lety +2

    The OG pipe bomb was fun but it got nerfed to nothing

  • @DBAeterna92
    @DBAeterna92 Před 3 lety +4

    Might not have the best story, but it definitely has the best gameplay in the series.

    • @biggy9619
      @biggy9619 Před 3 lety +1

      I wish BL3 was just BL2 with BL3's gameplay

  • @DeathRabbit
    @DeathRabbit Před 3 lety +18

    I mean we got to see Axton and Salvador...in a credits picture.
    Honestly DLC4 was hyped the most and the most disappointing DLC I've played with said hype. I enjoyed the Jackpot, I loved the Guns, Love, and Tentacles, and I REALLY loved Bounty of Blood, but Fustercluck feels...barren? I don't know. I can't bring myself to replay the game with how bad the campaign is even with the WAY better drop rates and scaling ever since launch.
    I feel like if Troy betrayed Tryeen and sucked her powers to save himself, there could've been a WAY better outcome. Tryeen is annoying as fuck, but Troy felt different. While not as good as the S Tier Jack, I felt like he could've been explored WAY more. Tryeen, on the other hand, just felt like a basic bitch villain. I dunno man...it's just sad

    • @kijjin9893
      @kijjin9893 Před 3 lety +1

      You enjoyed the first dlc because it had traces of handsome jack in it and guns love and tentacles was good and the the 4th dlc was great but you payed too much attention to the hype and jumped on board with it and if my memory serves me right every time I’ve jumped on board the hype in different games I was disappointed

    • @DeathRabbit
      @DeathRabbit Před 3 lety +3

      @@kijjin9893 I liked DLC1 for the connection between Timothy and Presequel, that and it made sense because of Jack's death. I liked the characters we got and I was sad to have to kill Fanny pack mullet man and the final boss was awesome. DLC4 had such lackluster and rushed sidemissions and no new characters to absorb besides Krieg's sane self. While it did connect to BL2 and Krieg, it feels like it's still missing something. The Final boss is cool, just so annoyingly healthy is all. Even then, Krieg was the first character I played in BL2 and fell in love with the character, if i hear he's getting his own DLC I'm gonna get hyped up, no questions. For a last main DLC, its lackluster.

    • @Kantech_exe
      @Kantech_exe Před 3 lety +4

      @@kijjin9893 to be honest, the dlc 1, 2 and 3 had each new atmospheres, new ennemies and they also had other good crew challenges and actual side missions and they had a good story.
      Dlc 4 had absolutely no new ennemies, the atmosphere of the dlc 4 felt more like recycled areas, for example, the last area of the dlc felt like a kind of skywell 7, the side missions are basically just listening krieg saying non sense and the crew challenges were HORRIBLY annoying and the story... it didn't have much. The dlc was mainly killing shit for hours while listening the non sense that krieg shout.
      So, compared to every other dlc's, the dlc 4 is a big disappointment

    • @DeathRabbit
      @DeathRabbit Před 3 lety

      @@Kantech_exe couldn't agree more, besides the thing with new areas, I felt there were cool new areas but man it was disappointing overall

    • @Kantech_exe
      @Kantech_exe Před 3 lety

      @@DeathRabbit don't get me wrong, I found the areas cool but there just wasn't any area that felt like ''new'' and ''fresh'' like the other dlc's did.

  • @lonelyPorterCH
    @lonelyPorterCH Před 2 lety

    Good Luck I missed that year because I waited for the steam release^^

  • @marcinstangel9277
    @marcinstangel9277 Před 2 lety

    Great video. I agree on the lack of content. Even now, when I tried to play it over the weekend, we struggled to find something to do in the game (I play in split screen coop with my Mrs). We literally sat there, and though - right - we did this, that and that... and after a while we decided to just do some challenges we had missing from the list, but in the end after about 30 - 40 minutes we were bored :(
    And to make it worse, the issues we suffered while we played this game on our PS4 Pro, are also present on our new PS5 - namely: random crashes, when one player in the split screen co-op, opens a map / vendor machine, while the other is busy doing something else.... Very disappointing. We literally went back to playing BL Pre-sequel, at least there, despite of hitting max level, and killing all the bosses there were, we still find something to do (not to mention playing 2 claptraps is actually quite fun).
    I honestly hope that the new game (Tiny Tina's Wonderlands) won't be f**** crashing like that in coop, or I will be seriously p**** off (seeing how it seems to be using an engine similar to BL3 ) ;)

  • @Nonpain
    @Nonpain Před 3 lety +7

    i still think bl 3 would have needed a diablo 3 like adventure mode with random stages and bosses instant of this mayham mode as endgame.

    • @-blank-1176
      @-blank-1176 Před rokem

      Then Wonderland did exactly that and flopped even worse, gearbox has been in some drugs lately

  • @mattmeyer99
    @mattmeyer99 Před 3 lety +7

    EpicNNG dont forget launch
    Day1: regular guns
    Day 2 modded guns
    Day 3 modded guns everywhere

    • @IcyTechNique
      @IcyTechNique Před 3 lety +1

      Omg, i literally laughed so hard...thank u...i needed that 😂

  • @Doople
    @Doople Před 3 lety

    This was a pretty good summary of the game and especially the gameplay changes. Only thing missing is mention of the horrible lag and frame drops during multiplayer that never got fully iron out

  • @hushex5150
    @hushex5150 Před 3 lety +1

    I love every single video you put out, you really care about your channel and put tons of effort in them keep on going and don’t put oil in your pasta

  • @53suzaku
    @53suzaku Před 3 lety +3

    I was so excited for BL3, the mayhem levels were ok day 1. But I was running the crit god flak so I never had trouble killing anything. It hurt when he got nerfed, but I had almost filled my bank with unique legendaries. So I pushed through for a couple more weeks. I was a couple pieces away from completing my masterpiece. Then my bank glitched. Everything was gone. Never touched the game again

  • @twistymcfresh
    @twistymcfresh Před 3 lety +26

    My only complaint?
    The story should have just: not happened

    • @drb0mb
      @drb0mb Před 3 lety

      imagine if the bl1 and bl3 stories swapped. bl1 would be considered a decent game and bl3 would be a mail in storywise.

  • @citizena1495
    @citizena1495 Před 3 lety

    As someone who hasn’t played since the first dlc this is an awesome vid. I can’t bring myself to keep playing this game on console due to bugs, story, etc. with that’s said still loving BL2 so I have that to play

  • @ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos
    @ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos Před 3 lety

    Nailed it with the gunplay analysis. Even white weapons feel super weighty and satisfying. Except snipers.

  • @REW-Music
    @REW-Music Před 3 lety +3

    I definitely like when they add new characters to play as. Krieg was the best character for me.

  • @muse5722
    @muse5722 Před 3 lety +4

    This game series is just a testament to how bad men can make good art only for so long before their nature starts to harm their art.

  • @jaydawggydogg5374
    @jaydawggydogg5374 Před 3 lety +2

    The crazy amount of nerfs to meta weapons gave the impression the devs could not balance the game as well as mayhem lvl being unplayable with certain modifiers were the biggest reason for me personally

  • @justdirt
    @justdirt Před 3 lety

    BL3 was the first Borderlands I've actually finished. All the things that make Borderlands fun was there. Creative and fun guns, a group of wacky characters, a super over the top villain, fun boss fights, and looting.

  • @Pappa958
    @Pappa958 Před 3 lety +3

    My only issue is how the game ran!
    I played plenty of unreal engine games and they never gave me any lag like BL3.
    The menu scrolling was horrendous

  • @mysterspeedo8213
    @mysterspeedo8213 Před 3 lety +4

    Bruh am i the only one who's really enjoying bl3 and who's hyped to see what content they're gonna come out with next

    • @cymonin5549
      @cymonin5549 Před 3 lety +1

      Nah, I think a lot more of us are hyped for Year 2 than how it looks.
      The main thing is just the disappointment & peeves that ppl have with the main story, which they cant easily fix with DLC.
      Imo, it just gets so exhausting if you try to play through the story with each character, twice (cuz of TVHM).
      And, I guess, some people might be think the DlC are too expensive for how short they are. (Though I love all the DLC so far)

    • @mysterspeedo8213
      @mysterspeedo8213 Před 3 lety

      @@cymonin5549 yeah that's true, but i mean personnally i like going through the story, idk i just have fun doing it. But i can see why people have more fun in the endgame content and would wanna skip over the story straight to farming and build making. But im still really hyped for year two ! New skill tree, characters we haven't seen before more lore etc

    • @Cam-ou7br
      @Cam-ou7br Před 3 lety

      They killed my hype for season 2 when they announced that the 4th skill trees that they've been holding up as something to be excited about since early on were going to be paid DLC. I would have gladly given them money for new vault hunters but trying to coerce me to pay to unlock the rest of a VH I already bought is just scummy, the kind of stuff you find in freemium mobile games. It also means that unless the new game mode they teased is entirely end game focused, what we have now is essentially what we get, barring perhaps another takedown being added in somewhere in the next year.

  • @destituodaemonis
    @destituodaemonis Před 2 lety

    "Players just farmed graveward over and over and over, then they just got bored."
    that's exactly what happened to me, didn't realize it at the time. I never even played the dlc...

  • @incog30
    @incog30 Před 2 lety

    I feel you man. I was so hyped for this game and was so let down. But I still grind it to this day.

  • @homefront1999
    @homefront1999 Před 3 lety +10

    I really wish we would get a Borderlands game, that is an alternative path to Borderlands 2. Where you get to be the bad guys and work for handsome Jack. Such as instead of being Vault hunters that have lost it's meaning of the name. You are more mercenaries. I can already see Angel being the Siren and I would love to see how that would work. But you are able to do the evil stuff. If the game were to mirror BL2's story. Then we can be the ones behind causing a lot of the events and going after the VH's from BL2.

  • @PkNess97
    @PkNess97 Před 3 lety +5

    What we need
    At least 2 more story DLCs (for Axton and Sal)
    Different weapon rarities (Pearl, Evervescent, new, ect.)
    Actual Raid Bosses
    And many more.
    I personally would also like at least one DLC character. This game can't just stop after four story DLCs and a 4th skill tree.

  • @stefanbarnett2295
    @stefanbarnett2295 Před 3 lety

    Would like another chapter, on what I don't know I'm just a fan of boarderlands content & Iiked your video keep them coming

  • @OfficalSketch
    @OfficalSketch Před 3 lety +1

    Can’t wait for this!

  • @TLcool4
    @TLcool4 Před 3 lety +21

    8:22 he's friends with joltzdude cool

  • @oof1374
    @oof1374 Před 3 lety +6

    year one might have been bad, but hey at least gearbox took the time to improve it. Most developers probably would have just given up at the hint of failure, but gearbox didn't. they got back to work and made improvements with each update. I have hope that Year two will be the great comeback story of Borderlands 3.

    • @zombiekungfumaster
      @zombiekungfumaster Před 3 lety +2

      It's so weird that people think that giving up on the main title in their biggest series could even be an option for Gearbox.

  • @averageidiot6645
    @averageidiot6645 Před rokem

    I remember people evaluating how effective their build was by how fast they could kill Graveward.
    He was *THAT* easy to farm.

  • @SquidgyPixel
    @SquidgyPixel Před 3 lety +2

    Is it also worth noting the discord created with the 6 month exclusivity?
    Im curious to see how the Steam release in March would've changed sales.

  • @vanity1674
    @vanity1674 Před 3 lety +9

    It's funny I still haven't even finished Borderlands 3 once since it came out yet I have gotten 2 characters to level 80 in the same time period in Borderlands 2.

    • @Raptchur
      @Raptchur Před 3 lety +4

      You must just appreciate a good story and likable characters. Understandable.

    • @vanity1674
      @vanity1674 Před 3 lety +7

      Goodkat I mean not necessarily I love the way Borderlands 3 feels and the general Quality of Life is great but I have always felt there is just something missing from BL3. I can’t explain what it is. It’s kinda like BL3 has the look and feel of a Borderlands game but none of the soul that made the previous special.

    • @Raptchur
      @Raptchur Před 3 lety +3

      @@vanity1674 Yeah i know what you mean. I have 5 Gaiges and 4 Mayas at level 80. Not to mention at least 1 of every other VH. Couldn't stop playing BL2, across 3 platforms. BL3 is just nowhere near finished. And like i said on another comment, MM kills it for me. Just a horrific idea imo. Ruins what i love about borderlands. It most certainly has something missing... CONSISTENCY.

    • @peterlanisch5912
      @peterlanisch5912 Před 3 lety

      @@vanity1674 BL3 removed any kind of skill based gameplay, thus there is no longterm motiviation to play this game. It is just about having the right gear and than everyhting around you explodes. In Bl2 Zero had outstanding offensive capacities but was vulnerable as fuck, therefore you had to master his playstyle (especially to his CA-skill). In Bl3 you just have characters like Amara or Moze, who just dont wanna die. It is just so fucking boring.

    • @vanity1674
      @vanity1674 Před 3 lety

      Peter Lanisch huh funny you mention that I’m currently giving BL3 another shot as Amara. I’m level 20 and can already phasegrasp up to 4 people on one cooldown and can literally make enemies explode in an element. A part of me wonders if character skills are just stronger in BL3 because Maya couldn’t do nearly as much as Amara at the same level. As someone who played a lot of Axton in BL2 I can agree with the point about mastering play styles. Like if you didn’t effectively draw Agro away with his turret you would get ran over by enemies and often die at higher difficulties.

  • @marqusrylander8666
    @marqusrylander8666 Před 3 lety +21

    Say what you want, but I still enjoy playing this game from time to time.

    • @shanecoffing
      @shanecoffing Před 3 lety

      It's a fun game as long as you ignore story (thank God for the addition to skip cutscenes). Has the funniest gameplay loot of any game still (new games need to get on the looter shooter gameplay loop) and has AMAZING gunplay, but man is the endgame grind boring and the balance was God awful.

    • @NateTheGreat368
      @NateTheGreat368 Před rokem

      It is a fun game, but the story is an insult to borderlands fans, and even as a casual borderlands fan who isn't too invested, the dialogue and writing is complete cringe.

  • @randomguy3869
    @randomguy3869 Před 2 lety

    rewatching the history of bl3, i am really glad how it turned out after all

  • @thomasvk99
    @thomasvk99 Před 3 lety +1

    I think my biggest problem with BL3, is the fact that I don't feel a need to farm specific enemies.
    What I loved in BL2 was farming bosses for multiple drops, trying to find that perfect gun (DPUH, here I come)
    In this game, I simply don't feel the same way. A huge thing for me when I first got into Borderlands during 2017, was the community event "The Hunt" - It was extremely fun to take part it, and I even kept going after the event was has officially ended. This was a recurring thing for me in 2018 and 2019. While I know Gearbox would never make their game fit a community event, I can't help but feel dissapointed with how The Hunt is going to work in BL3, since so many things can drop for so many enemies (Also world drops happen like every 10 seconds)

  • @jerules4909
    @jerules4909 Před 3 lety +26

    I love all the borderlands games and they are all really good imo. 2 is my favorite and still the best but idc what people say borderlands 3 is my second favorite and I think the 2nd best. I love the skills and guns. The gameplay is the best in the series and it's fun to play. The story is not the best but I love all the areas and locations we go to. But in the end I love all these games so much. I just think people shit on bl3 because story wise it isnt as good as bl2. Like bl2 is the best one but it has problems especially in the endgame. But still all the games are great

    • @dawsonmuth
      @dawsonmuth Před 3 lety +6

      At least it has an endgame. I love all the games too, but bl3 right now is my least favorite. Bl2s story wasn’t great, but the characters were. That’s what made it good. Bl3 has failed to introduce any new interesting characters besides maybe Maurice and wainwright. It has loads of potential but i just don’t think it will ever become as iconic as bl1 and 2. They weren’t just games, they were culture. Bl3 just doesn’t seem to have the same thing the first two games had. This game also doesn’t have much endgame content at all rn. Hopefully that changes but once addons and updates stop happening lots of people may lose interest. It needs a lot of work and even then the gameplay might be fun but it still won’t be the icon that bl2 was.

    • @seansimmons8897
      @seansimmons8897 Před 3 lety +1

      @@dawsonmuth they r adding 4th skill trees instead of new characters

    • @seansimmons8897
      @seansimmons8897 Před 3 lety +2

      @je rules i realy agree with u bl2 is my first favorite then bl3 I just love bl3 bc idk where they are going next so I just wait

    • @LittleMsJester01
      @LittleMsJester01 Před 3 lety +3

      Actually, BL2 story was incredibly simple. It was the characters that made the game as enjoyable. It was a linear story that had interesting developments. BL3’s problem is that it takes itself too seriously and tried to make some deep and complicated story as well as forgetting about characters and character development.

    • @jerules4909
      @jerules4909 Před 3 lety +3

      @@LittleMsJester01 I agree completely. The characters were what made the story in Bl2. Bl3 was too serious and fell flat in that regard. But I really enjoy the gameplay. It needs more takedowns though. But takedowns are some of imo the best content in the entire series

  • @gedox6523
    @gedox6523 Před 3 lety +9

    I came back to BL3 after i got a Pc that actually was able to run it, so after like half a year pause, i had a ton of fun! But, and this is a big BUT, I felt like everything i experienced was set up for me to experience it exactly that way... Everywhere i went without a Quest, there was nothing to do, nothing to explore in a giant Map full of enemys and full of loot. Without having a side mission active, the game is just empty, You arent alowed to do stuff on your own, the game always wants to hold your hand while you play, and this is my biggest criticism on Bl3, I cant play on my own judgement and way of playing

    • @mrcarsonwhite
      @mrcarsonwhite Před 3 lety +1

      Totally agree the game much like the dialog feels forced and doesn’t give you emotion

  • @jimv8957
    @jimv8957 Před 3 lety

    This is very interesting and insightful for someone who got BL3 on sale about 4 months ago with all the DLC and whatnot and fixes for a cool 60$. The experience I have had is amazing and I freaking LOVEEE BL3. I feel for you homies who had to endure such BS to get us to here.
    Edit: Yo dawg you gotta make a playlist of this so it is easier to binge!

  • @Meinshake12
    @Meinshake12 Před 3 lety +1

    You didnt even mention the nerfing spree
    You really are a nice person