The Borderlands Iceberg Explained: Total INSANITY
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- After seeing a few Icebergs around, I realised that there really isn't any major Iceberg lists available for the Borderlands series. This video took quite a while to make, and as you can tell; is extremely long. Sit back and grab some popcorn, because it's gonna be a crazy ride! Let me know if I missed anything out in the comment section :)
0:00 - Intro
0:40 - What is an Iceberg List?
1:33 - NVHM
5:41 - TVHM
12:40 - UVHM
26:55 - OP8
38:38 - OP10
50:15 - OP21
57:00 - OP75
1:05:52 - OP100
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The whole "Dying in a cutscene" theory, in BL3 I had died and gotten revived and the New U machine said "Death isn't permanent unless you die in a cut-scene"
Replaying BL2 right now and I've heard this twice recently as well as another statement saying the new u station is not cannon
That bullet hole in Claptrap is probly just the one he got from Jack at the end of Claptastic Voyage
Its in the exact same spot
@@smurph1994 yeah 100%
I’m super confused why he didn’t know that
Half the stuff on this list I had never heard of but I knew this one
“If Kevin hart was playing Roland the bullet would’ve missed” BRO KNEW SOMETHING AND WAS HINTING AT IT THE WHOLE TIME
the casting list was announced a lonnggg time ago
"It has an absorb chance from 1% to go up to 94%" lowest absorb chance on the sham is 77% and is as rare as a 94% sham
I had a 78 and an 89
Every maliwan part is 1/20
@@TreadingtheBorderlands69 is the best
Played for over a decade and only managed an 92%
@@sunsetsunrise207 I read this and went to call BS then I realized it HAS been out for a decade and now I feel old.
White death was the nickname of a famous finish sniper who killed hundreds of Soviets in WW2 while Lyuda represents a Soviet sniper named lyudmila who killed hundreds in WW2. Sniper of the west for Xbox, sniper of the east for PlayStation.
Lyudmila was often called "Lady Death", but most people just think of the marvel character when they hear lady death.
Lmao
This is facts right here. Should have added this to the video. Thanks!🤩
@@chastethompson1086 I instantly thought of the exotic smg from division 2
Idk how he didn't know this, this was such a cool feature to me when I first played bl2
Dying isn't canon unless it is in a Cutscene: " Yesterday I played Borderlands 2 and died and a New U Station said: " We will bring you all the time back, except it is in a Cutscene" I think it is a joke but idk.
Yeah that's because the New U stations aren't canon. So you are right. When you die while playing it isn't canon but when someone dies in a cutscene it is canon.
@@joeshmoe3329 but katagawa jr uses the new u to get the body of zero
@@uncapo7838 doesn't he just get zero's costume? Because when you kill katagawa jr he doesnt have zero's face
@@joeshmoe3329 ya he only got zeros suit design, zero said something like how did he get my suit design, did she tell him? I don't remember everything just look up the video the history of zero here is a link czcams.com/video/asbiO1-T9hc/video.html
@Beckham no. would make an awesome theory, but, no.
27:13 This isn't a "theory", it's part of the lore. Roland practicaly adopted Tina and took care of her. This is why there is so many pictures of them together, Tina's writing on his memorial, and why she is so heartbroken by his death.
Roland is also the person who showed Tina bunkers and badasses and her original GM
@@andrewcraig443 Yeah i realized that after i completed wonderlands
In the game she's actually introduced and then he dies a few hours later.. js
@@MrMatt3046 Introduced to Roland? Because Roland took care of Tina for quite a while, a LOT longer than a few hours.
@@RomiiPringle did you play the game? They found her living in a cave during the game.then a few hours later Ro is killed.
Back when Borderlands 1 was first teased and we got the early early concept arts, where Lilith was Steele and Roland was some white fella, that fella got reused for another character in the game. Prototype Roland is none other than our fan favourite Dr. Zed. Except he wears a mask 24/7.
"Dokter zeeed"
Good bit late on this, but I would like to add that the original model for Mordecai was also different and got turned into the enemy called Reaver. As far as I understand, the only one who never changed was Brick, the prettiest siren.
To Aurelia beeing a siren:
In Jakob's Estate there is an echo where she says to Troy that the stuff she does is based on nano-technology
@@RemingtonSteel eh, is she?
i mean, she's got ice speciality which is cool and all
but athena's got elemental boosting, several different elemental based skils, can absorb elemental damage from enemies and reflect it back, she's essentially got two really good build concepts, being cryo + melee or her shock elemental spam stuff, etc.
aurelia's probably got the best elemental skill tree in the series, admittedly, but athena feels far more like a siren.
@@leeman27534 malestorm Athena is a being that only Salvador himself could clash in a fair fight with
@@PianoEmu1120 Yeah, Maelstrom Athena is a ton of fun. Stormweaving giving you infinite ammo is just icing on the cake. Throw a Storm Front grenade and enjoy those 500 instant stacks.
Oh no, it’s Kojima guest-writing the Borderlands franchise!
She has sex with Troy and survives. Not a siren.
the whole Rhys being CEO of Atlas was explained in Tales from the borderlands, Handsome Jack had the deed to Atlas in his office, Rhys grabbed it before shit went down.
@@timfuller1533 its canon, not a theory
@@JBlade187 oh I didn't play tales
@@timfuller1533 you are missing out. Its really good
Yea i was confused how that was even a theory. Guess they didnt finish the game
I mean how Rhys is the ceo of atlas isn't a mystery but how atlas went from a company worth nothing into a megacorp so quickly is intresting
about the vault hunters being evil, I figure that's kind of a shallow take on it
i think one of the cool things about borderlands is how it subverts classic hero morality. the vault hunters are clearly not supposed to be good people, they are greedy and violent and many side quests have you do pretty shitty stuff to people. zane is literally an assassin and professional thief, for example. borderlands is more about letting you be amoral and not judging the player for doing video gamey stuff, like killing lots of people for money and loot
Kill or be killed
For the past borderlands I'd agree but damn in borderlands 3 it clearly feels like you play as the hero even though Zane and flak are literally a ex assassin and a murderous robot, and I hate it
@@NateTheGreat368 i mean Flak is literally a homicidal maniac, and they try to make them a hero by having this whole "save the universe" generic doomsday plot, not to mention how they steamrolled the siren lore into oblivion, it's such a goddamn mess
Morally questionable characters are always more interesting than Superman Clone 7
@@NateTheGreat368 I noticed this as early as Borderlands 2, in the first game Vault Hunters are just seen as fools hunting a myth, Pierce considers us a bit of a nuisance. Cut to the start of Borderlands 2 when we first get to Sanctuary and meet Reese, suddenly Vault Hunters are treated like Spartans are in the Halo games.
tiny tina's dragon keep 2 is literally just wonderlands - look at the areas described, bottom of the sea, desert.. very interesting to see them bring it into a full game
Dude I was thinking the same thing and started looking for comments of it. Went from big DLC to medium sized game.
And torque finally got to blow up the ocean! I was so happy for him in that moment!
When Maya asks Lilith what happened to her powers Lilith does not explain to her what the Calypsos can do. So I would say Lilith got Maya killed as well as Roland...
That's a very good point
Well lilith is the apitamy of bad writing so yeah i agree
@@voidfields5065 lol so true
Guys. Everyone was at fault in that situation.
Lilith: for not telling maya about what happened.
Maya: for not trying to know more about what happened.
Ava: for not listening to maya.
Moze/Amara /Zane/Fl4k : for not telling maya more, despite witnessing the effects of tyreen's powers first hand.
Krieg: for not being there.
There was nobody innocent at that point in time.
But i'm pretty sure Ava not being there would have been a game changer because maya would've been in the vault with you and have exited the same time as you to witness the vault monster absorption.
Just saying.
@@nancyabsalon9436 True
Lilith in a bikini car skin still exists and is called True Turquoise. Just thought Id mention that. Idk
Only skin i use once I discovered it ages ago
@@montgomeryfitzpatrick473 you didn’t switch to technical spectacle?
@@nbabackcourtmedia for a bit when commander Lilith dropped, but that sparkle ain't got shit on those tatas
I love that skin
NO....
Jack definitely wasn't a "good guy" at the beginning of pre sequel. He was just not nearly as maniacal. He was still a power hungry narcissist at the beginning of the game. What kind of hero has a big alien eye that shoots death star lasers?
The Justice League?
If jack infact had win, the twins were never gonna get power to be villains. also, he did tried to make safe place for people in oppertunity.
@@Bandit-23th tbf thats an extremely dumb part of the dcau
He thought he was good
@@frozi1541 if you mean safe as in creating north korea on pandora, then yeah it was very safe
The pre sequel was the 1st borderlands I played. Which after playing it I knew I had to check out the rest of the borderlands. Now I love all the borderlands.
Yo do you know what gun he’s using
@@deadlife7603the flipper in bl3
"it was confirmed Maya would have died with or without Ava's inclusion" this doesn't really prove anything other than they intended for Maya to die in the plot, though. Ava, in the story as we received it, did influence the scenario and was a likely reason for escalating the encounter that got Maya killed. now, i'm sure there's some nuance you could argue about the story, but my comment here is about how the comment Epic made is kind of irrelevant, seeing as the point of contention is about how things happen within the story we got and not the writer's intent of killing off Maya regardless.
💯
Killing off Maya is what makes kreigs decisions so heartfelt
I don't think its a big deal that Ava got Maya killed or not. It bothers me that Ava comes out of nowhere in that mission. Am I supposed to believe that the girl somehow snuck by that many enemies without being seen fast enough to keep up with the Vault Hunter and Maya AND be in the room with the Rampager during the fight to watch the whole thing in person without getting hurt. That part is what is BS. It would have been better for her to be in the car (regardless of it getting blown up and respawning) and pop out right before the fight that to have her just appear and spout out her stupidity in that moment.
It felt like the writers knew they wrote mighty characters in all the games that lead up to 3, and felt overwhelmed maybe or something like that, a mix of can’t continue on doing justice for the characters and a dislike for the fan base. Not that the fan base matters too too much with games, but when you kill off the characters, change the art style, and provide a lack of depth for the new villains and (likely) new characters who will or won’t be sticking around.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they involve the timekeeper eridian later on. I will be surprised if they don’t retcon the latest bits of plot, or at least time warp patch things up.
@@manniebradley3768fuck Kriegs decision making gimme back my fucking dawg😭
The Lyuda/White Death thing is actually a galaxy brain Easter egg. The names are references to famous snipers Lyudmila Pavlichenko and Simo Hayha who were on opposing sides during WWII.
The 2 snipers being on separate consoles is a reference both to WWII, but also the ongoing console war between Xbox and PlayStation
Isn’t it also named the Lyumida in some versions of the game
@@quinlanyates9530 on PlayStation it drops as Lyuda or sometimes Lyudmila. I’ve seen both
@@quinlanyates9530 Lyuda and Lyudmila are different forms of the same name
I remembered finding it as the lyudmila and wondered why nobody ever seems to talk about it, thank god I'm not crazy
@@steamtasticvagabond474 from what I understand, on Xbox 360 it was the White Death, on the PS3 it was the Lyuda, and in the Handsome Collection on both Xbox One and PS4 it’s the Lyudmila.
I feel like the New-U was canon in the early stages of making Borderlands, as it was a fun, in-universe way to explain why everyone was crazy with little fear of death, and why the psychos and bosses respawned. An interesting way to bridge game design with story. But they probably would have abandoned that quickly as it meant the most simple stake for story writing; death, no longer applied.
I know i am late but to add to this is that a canon new u respawn system would kimda dumb from jack to not shut down. He tried to kill us but if the new u where canom this would mean he'd kill us but we woiöd just respawn until we kill him. So alone from that logic standpoint i'd say it should be only a gameplay mechanic but no canon
41:37 I just got a voice line literally yesterday while farming the handsome sorcerer from the new u station.
“Handsome hack wants to let you know, the New-U stations are not canon”
If there’s anything I learned from Borderlands is that Lilith has got to be the biggest idiot in the crimson raiders
Maybe behind ava
Maybe
Being a siren has to delete brain cells and the only one who tried to study to gain them back was Maya.
“Who is zero?? Is he vinylic puma??” I cracked the fuck upppo🤣🤣
It's masterkiss
what a boatload of AZZ
I think I scoffed like crazy hearing that tbh
no hes tannis
Man I keep rewatching his videos, it'd be nice if he came back one day
There’s something that’s always bugged me about the ending of BL3. Ava asks if Tyreen is dead for real, and Lilith “gives it a hard maybe”. I’m sure this was just a joke, but I don’t like even the slightest hint of ambiguity in a character’s death. It plants the smallest seed of doubt, y’know?
I've always been worried they'll bring jack back and completely ruin his legacy, especially considering people's response to tiny Tina's wonderlands, it seems more likely they might do it to try and gather hype from players
The new u stations are literally stated to be non-canon BY THEMSELVES! It's one of the respawn lines in Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep. Very common line. Anyone can go play it for themselves and hear it.
Ok A: TTAODK isn't cannon either
And B: you can't trust what they say
The Dragon keep new u says "this new u station isn't cannon" which implies the new u stations aren't in bunkers and badasses
In tps concordia has the non cannon museum and new u stations are in there
In tps there's a book titled "non canon things" or something like that and it specifically lists new u
that should be obvious, new u's would make everything and every action worth nothing, roland can return, pierce can return, the entire military structure of atlas, handsome jack, all of those bandits, etc
I saw nothing wrong with the Pain and Terror stuff. It fits the Borderlands recipe perfectly.
With all the insane stuff in the BL universe it makes no sense to get so upset about Penn and Teller having characters in it
One of the better parts of the game fore sure
Pain and Terror was one of the better pop cultural references in 3, but thats not saying much, lol
i enjoyed pain and terror much more than tyreen and troy
when i first played the game i didnt know who Penn and Teller were but i liked the characters
1:06:03 "We can always bring you back, unless you died in a cutscene." is a New-U quote in Bl3, so that could be some evidence for that.
On a brochure in the game New-U stations are is the non cannon museum
U can't trust a thing they say
I feel like the massive wait and buildup of borderlands 3 hurt it when it finally came out. Kinda like the “Astroworld effect” where the buildup completely outshines the product
I completely agree dude. I was so excited for borderlands three initially, and the wait was honestly fun. Two days into the game I finished it and didn't really want to go back.
People complain about how hard Voracidous is, while I think only true challenging raid boss is Grandma Flexington... Even Salvador can’t money shot his way outta this one...
oh hi
I'd say FaceMcShooty is the hardest raid bosses no matter what I just can't beat him 😭
Let's be honest: given the quality of the BL3 story, Penn and Teller's cameo was a nice break.
It's is
Yeah I thought it was kinda funny
It didn't even register until this video, and to just further I thought he was still saying Pain and Terror until he literally said something about Pen Jillette
Only part of the campaign I thought was actually funny
i honestly thing the spin-off coming out is gonna be better than 3
the sham starts in the high 70% chance, a white vladof can have a 1% absorb chance. its down to the parts attached to the shield
Triple bandit gets the worst Absorb chance
77% is the lowest it can roll. That is if key parts are Dahl.
@@TheMorrogoth i thought it was 76% was the lowest with triple bandit parts.
@@notkingofnidoking7229 Nah. The lowest possible roll a Sham can have is 77%.
This is if the body, battery and capacitor are of Dahl.
76% is a myth.
@@TheMorrogoth pretty sure it just rounds to 77% because it's 76.6% as the lowest
I will never understand why you got that upset over a cameo in borderlands 3. It was entertaining and it fit well with the tone of the game if you ask me
I love the game but I don't like randy pitchford I feel like eventually he's just gonna turn the game into Fortnite and pay to win you can see the evolution of marketing throughout the games
Nyriad was the 7th siren. She "severed her cord from the universe", Typhon boinked his wife in the vault she locked herself in and picked up the thread. Tyreen was the 7th siren after that point.
6 sirens can exist at once
That's what I was wondering as well. Jack mentioned only 6 can exist. But Nyriad locked her power up for centuries. So Jack shouldn't know about it. I guess Nyriad is afraid that someone with her power can absorb the other sirens' powers and become too powerful.
@@elsonlamAnd now that power is back in the universe, so I hope that's the power you start with as a Siren in BL4, and that Eva is the first boss. You kill her and add Phase Lock to your powers.
I'm all for the theory that Zero is VinylicPuma.
I mean that would explain why we didn't hear from him in a while now
What if Zero is actually YOTESLAYA
Ok i know yote is gone but would be a nice thing i reckon rip Yote
funny enough, if your paid attention to grandma torgue she clearly states she saw captain scarlet at one point, and it really wouldn't make sense to mention a character by name that we didn't know yet(also wattle gobbler dlc came out after scarlet). therefore she is definitely still alive.
Not only that, but she also says that captain scarlet fought you and said something along the lines of "it was the greatest fight she's ever had" - So it seems to practically guarantee she is alive after your meeting her yes.
---- I double checked and yes, if you go to the "Borderlands 2 Wattle Gobbler DLC Raid Boss Grandma Torgue?" video by 'MorninAfterKill' at 8:48 then you see the exact statment. It says she agreed she fought the vault hunter after grandma asked and she said the vault hunter was really good at fighting and won fair and square.
@@zanakanishi i thourougly hope to see her as new dlc some day, maybe appearing with rose. A notorious pirate captain and a cowboy samurai gangleader vs the vaulthunters would be legendary.
The funny thing about the bee conference call is that is shows that the developers of the game at one point,particularly early on, actually intended to have a balanced game in BL2. But eventually the scope of how broken the game just never set in for them at this point. Weapon merging was discovered as a bug, and then people realized you can perform the bug by just using Salvador's gunzerking, combining rocket launchers with other weapons to apply their huge damage to a higher firerate gun was found, which eventually evolved to its peak of the pimperhab(Later when those weapons were released with dlcs). B0re was discovered to be completely broken and bugged letting Zer0(And later Gaige with a similar skill) one shot bosses like bnk3r and even raid bosses. Gaige can give herself permenant super powerful shield regen. Eventually it become obvious that the game was too broken to fix, and they didn't bother. You can tell they gave up because at one point, nerfing Shield Amp damage(Usually the bee due to no shield charge cost on the amp damage) and multi pellet weapons was patched in the case of the Conference Call, for being too powerful. But you can still combine the bee with other multi-pellet weapons to regain the effect. Like a ricochet fibber. That you use on gaige. With 400 anarchy stacks, and infinite shield regen with the buck up glitch and the Bee shield.
The sad part of this is that in giving up in making a balanced game, they decided OP levels are fine. When really the only viable way to play in OP10 is to abuse the fuck out of bugs. I mean gaige can't even max anarchy stacks hive bomb raid bosses with a bee shield anymore on op10 the resistances are so ridiculous. Good thing she can make herself immune with the buck up glitch i guess.
main issue with bl2 is uvhm is an absolute disaster. forcing people to slag everything is incredibly unfun and repetitive. it's one of the reasons why i think the pre sequel is a more fun game to max out on: it feels way more balanced and doesn't overstay its welcome
This thread is why I think BL2 is a tad overrated when compared to TPS and BL3.
I think 3 is the best as far as gameplay, followed by TPS and then BL2.
To the ClapTrap bullet hole:
I believe that the bullet hole is a reference to when Jack shot Claptrap in the Claptrap DLC in Bl:tps. The bullet hole is in the exact same place as in the DLC.
The reason why the bullet hole isn't in-game is probably just because Gearbox forgot about it
Tiny Tina's LEFT eye and movement is bugged, but they left it in because it's funny
You forgot the story that Gearbox/2K made Supmatto quit CZcams and social media
No one talks about him because he is a moron and got what he deserved. Most of what he talked about was incorrect and speculation, and he profited off it, Robbing people blind. That in itself is shady as fuck and illegal.
Pretty cool to look back on these videos and see things like the "Assault on dragon keep 2" DLC getting scrapped early on, just to realize it's because it got a green light to be turned into its own entire game... They had no idea back then lmao.
The cl4p TP bullet hole is explained in TPS credits, there's a scene where Jack shoots Cl4p TP
I think I remember hearing Axton or Salvador mention new U stations in arms race and the other host quickly hushed them up about it, gave me a laugh when I heard it
Yh it's a running meme there never gonna confirm it and you can't trust what the new u stations say in game
The Pre-Sequel had the most fun vault hunters to play with. If it got the same detailed skill trees as BL3, it would make it even better. Just the skill possibilities for claptrap alone.
TPS characters in bl2 would be godly
@@xexeed1363 pc modders wya
I still prefer Krieg. I know i know, Jack is OP on TPS but krieg gives me so much fun in melee/hellborn. I am unkilable (not on bosses without mobs) and super oppressive. BuzzAxe with dynamite burning everything is super cool to see lol
I still like zer0 and Krieg more than any tps characters but Timothy and claptrap were so fun
Jack was a bit insane before the pre sequel it just made it more apparent how insane he was
I literally froze in place when I heard that tiny Tina was kreigs dad.
There are voice lines in the game talking about how Wilhelm was poisoned. When you are fighting him you can hear him say how something is wrong and someone made a mistake. It is very easy to hear if you just listen during the fight. He does say out loud something is wrong with him and someone made a mistake when getting him ready. I believe Jack also says in game he affected Wilhelm why else do you think you vaulthunters could have killed him if not even the last vault hunters could hurt him
It's all cut dialogue in the files
@@jiubus No what I am referring to is something you can do right now and hear. If you fight Wilhelm and actually listen to what he says you can hear him saying he can feel something is wrong and that someone made a mistake. It isnt cut content you literally just have to go and test it. Dont gun him down in 5 seconds just lower his health by about half and he will talk about it
@@BlackAxon it could have been cut but I thought there was a scene after he barrages sanctuary that he says something along the lines of “did you really think you losers could kill wiheilm when the last four vault hunters had to run away like cowards”
I heard it in game as well
I dont remember hearing the dialouge for this but jack planned for wilhelm to die so that the power core reactor that you steal from wilhelm and bring to sanctuary will bring down sanctuary's sheild
Pen and Teller was soooo well done to be honnest.
Idk why he was so salty about it, these games r way less serious than a lot of shooters. Thats what makes the games so fun to me. They r full of cameos and references and jokes and they r all the better for it :)
@@ianovenden984 That is exactly what I was thinking. He got so hurt over the idea that Pain in Terror existed.
I honestly love when youtubers talk about community moments as much as you did, it reminds us that we're all humans who share a passion and some real drama, sometimes hilariously dumb drama happened, and its not ALL about the games but the greater community.
There are quite a few 'alternate' ways of Maya to die stories out there that coudld fit perfectly in the story. The unlock of the vault monster could initialy be prevented by Maya who sacrifice herself to hold back the planet, then Lillith does her thing. Another is she overdone her body using her powers, she slowely dying, bring Krieg back, give them their moment, she passes as she tells Ava she will be next. The whole problem (just like Roland or Birdie) is not the fact she would die, is the fact HOW she died. Ava first couldve grown into a likeable character (nobody likes her now), before Maya had to pass on. Sure some are mad about Maya dying, but majority is mad about how she had to die.
When you realize borderlands is a grimdark game but hidden under humor.
It does a really good job of hiding all the fucked up lore under the humor honestly
@@SquibLmao honestly is.
Yeah, that's why bl3 feels so weird. Only fard jokes remained
Lyuda and white death are a reference to opposing snipers in WW2. Lyuda being Russian and white death being Finnish in the Finnish soviet war. That reference with white death exclusive to Xbox 360 and lyuda exclusive to PS4 was a reference to the console wars at the time.
Yo do you know what guns he’s using
“who is zer0? is it an edridian? is it vinylicpuma? is it glitching queen?” that took me out 💀😭
Crazy how at 1:14:00 he was literally naming locations in the new game Wonderlands, they definitely saved those locations to make the current game
Yeah I realize that too
In a game a long long ago called "Blood" which Pitchford was involved in the main protagonist killed a train. The boss in The FlusterCluck is likely a nod to that .
Also it's the memory of the train scene where krieg met Maya and how the train literally took her away hence kriegs hate towards the train
I loved the presequel story, watching Jack descend into madness was great. Pickles annoyed the shit out of me though
Also lasers, buttslamming, and cryo was great. The presequel had some good stuff.
His sister's mission " the other pickle"(something like it) where you save pickle's sister from being just like her brother - you get a fairly good shotgun, the boganella. Heads up, it talks smack to everyone. Censored like torgue.
I will say just 1 thing... FR4G TP + BOOMACORN
Only thing I didn't like was EVERY DAMN MISSION had the same layout, go to your objective...oh wait it's actually broken/blocked by a shield, well now you gotta go 3 other places to fix it, at first it's hardly noticeable, but they do it in damn near every mission, towards the end it was just unbearable
@@fartjoker By the end I was surprised I didn't need to go find a maguffin to open all the gates in Eleseer lol
Yeah I played it like 2 years after it came out due to the hate, and then I found out it was an amazing game and I was lost why there was hate.
Githion's heart was constantly mentioned in the DLC..... never anything about Githion, only his/her/it's heart, so I honestly wasnt expecting a giant monster w/ a hole in it's chest, honestly expected a repeat of Hammerlock's BL2 DLC.... where the final boss falls over and kills himself
Yeah, I really can't imagine how we would fight him, considering that his body takes up 90% of some of the dlc's locations
@@Loderyod true, could have been a case of "we invade it's head and shoot at it's brain while it summons minions to defend it" but hey... that would have been the lazy path lol
I choose to believe that jackenstein was the final boss
1:14:26 Post Tiny Tinas Wonderlands Launch: oh yeah its all coming together
Bottom of iceberg: what happened to the people in Concordia and what happened to laser weapons
As far as i know, it was hard to sell them on Pandora or smthing
Concordia guys moved to Pandora if they wanted
Wasn't claptrap shot at the end of the claptastic voyage DLC? Would that explain the bullet hole? Because we know that frag-tp is the claptrap in bl2 from the scene after that DLC.
Funny enough its was always the same Claptrap Unit through all of the games.
Frag-trap IS our claptrap. After the events of the claptastic adventure, he had the frag-trap programming removed as it was part of the h-source. Jack shot him, dumped him in frostbite glacier, and then bl2 starts some time later
1:09:37 this is a reference to when Claptrap got shot during the end cutscene of the Claptrap DLC in the Pre Sequel. If you go back and watch it, the bullet holes are in the same place.
1: What’s about the Cobra Sniper in the Torgue's DLC in Borderlands2 with a 0,3% dropchance? But another thing I wanna mention is that maybe Rose is gonna be a playable character in BL4 because the narrator said at the end before you fight her that people would call him a liar for what happens next and the next thing that he said was that Rose would find her end. So that means that it might be a lie that Rose would die and the vault hunter would just kill the Creature in the end and not Rose and that Rose might be playable in BL4 as siren or like the sniper from BLTPS. Talking about the vault hunters from the pre sequel, everyone except Athena is dead right? And I think she is a playable character because she now has completed her goal which was to complete the things her grandmother worked on, and because this didn’t work out for her maybe she developed feelings of guilt for what she has done to the vault hunters and to the people in general. And because this is now a deep seeded wound of her past she decides to now hunt vaults and their creatures on their own but idk.
Theres a whole thing where Athena and Janey springs are in a relationship and thats why she isnt in borderlands 3 and i beleive this was confirmed by gearbox
"Not one of you who's played BL2 hasn't farmed fleshstick" I've literally never heard of fleshstick and I have about three hundred hours in bl2
How tho. So you have never even had the tea cup pistol before? That thing shreds!
From memory here: Flesh Stick is part of the Cordially Invited quest line from Tina's house. Relevant to the Iceberg video, Im pretty sure audio logs reveal (not going to spoil too hard,) flesh stick captured Tina's parents which led to their death.
@@RBradenG that explains it. I don't like Tina, so involve her as little as possible
the weird thing is, i don't recall farming 'him'.
i'd purposely die to get dozens of waves of killing his allies for a little bit of a level boost, maybe, but not strictly 'him'.
I remember him but didn’t farm him cuz I hate the Tina map
In the arms race DLC, one of the lines that can play from Axton has something to do with new you stations, and then Salvador says that he wasn't supposed to mention that.
Jack’s overall plan of scouring Pandora of raiders and psychos is something I agree with. His methods however, I do not jive with.
How would you have Done it, mass rehabilitation?
@@xexeed1363
You really think a planet full of criminals could function? At all?
Most have to be non-combatants otherwise there wouldn’t be anyone to raid. Jack was just a genocidal maniac
I watched the whole thing and I'm surprised that you did mention the checkered box under the map but not the second terramorphous fight. You fight him initially and when he dies you can still hear him but there's a way to go under the map and kill him a second time
41:34 This entry referes to a pamphlet in the pre sequel that says "The Non-Canon Museum: New-U Stations! Skill Points! Plot inconsictencies!"
Correction: shams lowest absorb chance is 77%, not 1%
1% can only be acquired from a white rarity absorb shields with triple bandit parts
Also, the sham on its own, isnt really rare, due to how easy the bunker farm is, and how it's a dedicated drop
Now, for the dragons keep dlc, yea for now, new game coming out 2022, not a dlc, an entire new game
I lowest is 76.6 but it rounds up to 77 in the file's
Well, we got our Dragons Keep 2. Wonderlands is exactly what you described. So, it's great to know that wonderlands only came to be because of the unused assets from dragons keep.
I'm pretty sure it was just supposed to be a dlc. Then they just kept adding and adding to it making it a game
Captain Scarlett is alive, if you listen to Grandma Flexingtons story, at one point she mentions how she ran into Scarlett after her fight with the Vault Hunter
I cant tell if he's actually being serious or if this is one giant shitpost
Pretty sure he was, mainly in and the deaths arent canon joke op100
No way he could be serious.
New-U isnt canon since every time someone talks with us after we beat a important boss, even if we die numerous times, they act like we killed it at first time. Besides that, all characters once playable and now dead dont return. Even in BL3 New-U jokes that they can bring us back at any time considering that we dont die in a custscene.
About Rose being a Siren, the theory revolves around the fact that she has Core running through her veins and it kinda gives her the ability to strenghten her shots when flowing it into her gun. Her tattos are also marks of Core, as was said in the DLC that the more tattos you have inside the Devil Riders, higher your rank, and those tattos were made of Core. Besides that, she had control over the Ruiner (which, by the way, anyone would have if learned the song that her grandma teached to her mom, that teached to her), but everyone seems to forgive that both Rose and Ruiner were experiments of Jakobs with Core to (apparently) create a Siren and a Vault monster that would work under its control. Clearly she isnt a Siren
And about no Invicibles for "over a year", thats not true. Borderlands 3 launched in september, Maliwan Takedown was launched on november, 2 months later. Of course it would be better to launch the game with a Invincible to fight, but telling that take over a year till we have one is a overstatement
It took me so many attempts to watch this vid. Great content tho love it all!
A good chunk of this iceberg is ranting about some of the content choices rather than not well known info about the game. or stuff like “the endless wait for BL3” ? I think a lot of this stuff could have been completely left out, maybe shortening it by one tier making your video a reasonable length. other than that, good video, touching on some of my favorite theories.
I started playing borderlands when I was 8. I'm 17 and I still love playing both borderlands 1 and 2. Not once did I think bosses could be farmed until I bought the legendary edition. Good times
I've been playing since around that age as well, I feel like a chunk of my brain is dedicated to borderlands by this point lmao. I alternate playing bl1 and bl2 every few months.
im in the same boat but i just decimated borderlands 2 and picked 3 up when in launched never farmed bosses until i went to run back through the map and bewm boom were waiting for me
"The white death", was a Finnish sniper named Simo Hayha. He was a crack shot known for ridiculous accuracy and K/D
You don’t have a K/D in real life.
@@puttputt524 yes you do
@@puttputt524 everyone does have one lmao
K/D hahaha wtf
Red rarity was considered ruby back when I played; I had 2-3 and they were higher than legendary in terms of rarity along with emerald, and “diamond” or a glitched pearl and after that is gold. Haven’t played in years and acct deleted. So if any OG borderlands players can verify ty
1:09:00 - Claptrap was shot in Presequel, however Borderlands 2 claptrap had no bullet wound; so for Borderlands 3, Gearbox updated Claptrap with the bullet wound.
So fan theory to justify voice actor switch, the bullet wound hit claptraps voice components.
Honestly i really like pain and terror in borderlands 3 lol. Also in the end of dlc6, its confirmed lilith is alive.
respect for the Caustic Caverns ost
One of the best if not the best map in Borderlands 2
The vibes were immaculate
Looks like Dragon Keep 2 actually became so big, it became it's own game.
After playing DLC2 for Borderlands 3, I don't know if knowing you fight Gythian's Heart changed it for me, but nothing said in that dlc implied that Gythian would be revived. Anything important about Gythian only refered to it's heart, not the monster itself.
Watching this video after Wonderlands comes out, it's cool hearing about the unreleased Dragon's keep DLC. :D
The Arms Race comment isn't about 'fucking' his turret, but Salvador says he has 'a date' with his turret. I don't have the specifics, but I got the idea in bl2 that Axton had a wife, who Axton now associates with his turret- maybe she engineered the thing. Okok or maybe he's bizarrely pansexual and left his wife for his turret D:
his wife was his commander it is all in the lore of 2 they broke up to keep things professional and she did engineer the turrets
@@madamthulhu7856 thanks, that's even deeper than I found in my playthroughs.
It is also a running joke in BL3 too. Look for the magazines. Axton is there on the cover with only his....turret hanging out.
Yeah. I said that.
Good night!
I imagine it's similar to a man referring to his machine as a female, like a favorite pick up truck or a gun passed down through a family.
43:46 Shots fired. 47:10 Grandma Flexington tells you that she spoke to Captain Scarlet after your encounter.
Ahhh that wasn’t a shot at Eruption. He’s a super cool dude, I was just pointing out that if I tried doing what he does, I’d only fill your mind with more that isn’t true 😂😂
@@EpicNNG It was more for the lulz. I was just playing the raid level for Grandma Flexington with some lower level characters, and I had heard the Scarlet stuff from her.
I feel like iceberg videos are supposed to… explain the iceberg? I thought the idea was to explain it to people who didn’t already know, but the entire first ten minutes is just “you guys already know” and just acknowledging it’s existence. So far it feels like a series of inside jokes we aren’t being let in on. But the gameplay looks dope
Shortly after bitching, things were getting explained… nvm
There was also a LotR easter egg in BL 3. On Konrad's Hold there is a side mission about exploring eridian ruins infested with varkids, third room is a tomb with a chest in the middle of it(similar to Gimli's cousin coffin), and when you pick up echo record, skull falls down the well very soundly, after which you hear the roar and everything starts shaking, proceeding to a fight with "Barlog".
Dude, thank you for this video. It's fantastic. This brought back so many good and pain inducing memories. I miss the hype around the discovery and leaks of the Commander Lilith DLC, and then the rumors about BL3 releasing. You made me relive the pain of wanting Luxy's Space Adventure so badly... I also wanted to comment that Gearbox had copyrighted the name "Borderworlds" at some point before BL3's release. That's why the community thought that BL3 would be called Borderworlds.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Noooo I'm so late but seeing as TPS is hands down my favorite borderlands game, Joltz' video about Luxys space adventure left me crushed because we weren't getting the dlc. RIP 2K Australia :/
@@Entertain.e.d Luxy's Space Adventure seemed to live on in memory! The premise of the DLC was reused a lot throughout other DLCs, it felt like. Most notably the Commander Lilith DLC.
@@5h4de4 that is fair, I haven't touched borderlands 2 since the fight for sanctuary came out so I had totally forgotten about the "spore zombie" enemies (sorry for lack of better term lmao). Even tho it still lived on through the fight for sanctuary my heart continues to ache for TPS :(:
Claptrap is shot by Jack in the end of presequel when he destroys all the cl4pt units and Hyperion dumps claptrap and all the other units into a snowy plain where as a lone survivor he meets sir hammerlock and that's where he meets the vault hunters at the start of bl2
24:00 - I was upset the lancer vehicle didnt come back in B2 or B3 we unlocked it and the Crimson Raiders would have needed that tech .
Anyone else think it's interesting how Marcus is the voice narrating at the beginning of the game....and he always says "want to hear a story?" What if all of these games so far, none of the stories are actually the real borderlands world...they're just bed time stories Marcus is telling? And what if all of the DLCs are just dreams a child is having after Marcus tells the story? This would make sense for how the DLCs are able to exist. Tiny Tina's, psychokrieg, Dr. Neds...they seem very much like a dream. Also....Would allow us to have characters back who have either died or we have killed....Handsome Jack anyone?
In the happy together trailer for bl3, mount jackmore was in the background.
Also, there is dialogue for a cut mission that had mount jackmore as a map.
Also you should have brought up the SupMatto saga, as well as scooper ( the cut son of scooter)
Zane being Jack's Doppelganger is cool. But how about Zane is Wilhelm and the one that the Bl2 Vault Hunters killed was his doppelganger?
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@@lorddeathicasjr.396 I'm as confused as you are friendo
@@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 same
Its possible for the Wilhelm to be a doppelganger because when you see his corpse its just an engineer in a big suit
Hidden in the game code was a line from Jack talking about poisoning Wilhelm so the vault hunters could actually kill him
The Claptrap bullethole is obviously a reference to the Pre-Sequel where he got shot by handsome Jack
If someone hasn't mentioned it already, I remember hearing occasional voicelines from new u stations that say something along the lines of "Careful, this respawn station isn't cannon." although I can't remember for sure where I heard it other than it was in 2 or 3, maybe in the Tina dlc
Evil Smasher glitch was hands down my favorite thing in borderlands history. Was devastated when they patched it.
Lol they told that Wonderlands would have melee weapons, waiting to see if Roses sword is playable there
That canceled Dragons Keep 2 sounded eerily like Wonderlands and the maps described
41:50 - the New-U is a 4th wall joke explained by Axton and Salvador in the Designer's Cut: Arms Race DLC.
The bane is actually a powerful gun, it just has the downsides of the curse
I agree on the lack of conventional raid bosses. I think that no modern Looter Shooter should launch without at least 1 superboss/raid type enemy. And in the case of BL3 they could just have made us play through all the trials once to unlock a new map that holds a royal rumble style raid boss fight against much stronger and tankier versions of the trial bosses with us fighting multiple of them at once. Easy enough to make, good enough to enjoy.
Nice pfp
I like the lazer weapons of presequal I hope they would return in number 3 as they where cool .
The doppelganger melee override glitch might be worth mentioning somewhere on the iceberg. It was a super fun and op glitch where you literally just get electric lasers shooting out of your wrists for as long as you want, and I am pretty sure Gearbox never fixed it.