Tesla’s new MATRIX Headlights on 2024 Model 3 Highland HW4 first test review.
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The camera quality isn’t brilliant, I only had a go-pro to hand at the time but it’s good enough to show you how it works and if Tesla Matrix on a new 2024 Model 3 Highland Long Range are any good. This is with Hardware HW4 cameras using Tesla Vision but 2021 and newer Model 3 and Y (standard range or long range and performance) with HW3 should also receive the functionality at some point.
Of course it’s hard to film at night with the contrast and in person you see more than shows in the video but you should get the idea in this demonstration and you know what, I think it’s pretty good!
It may not be quite there with the likes of Audi Mercedes Porsche million pixel digital headlights or BMW’s laser headlights like on the i4 but they are not bad at all really and what’s really good to see is they respond quickly - at last a Tesla that doesn’t blind other drivers!!!!!
Well probably follow this up with more videos about them and see if we can rig a better quality camera to record in more detail but as I say this should give you a feel for their capabilities and explain how Matrix headlight technology works and what it does.
Thanks for watching.
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Maybe record a video with one of your crew members coming from the opposite direction, so we can see both views?
Will try and do that soon as a follow up
@@RSEVlooking forward to it
@@deandawizYes. Blinding
Hands down best demo of Tesla matrix lights so far 🙌
Can we also get some footage of how it looks FROM the perspective an oncoming car? (Obviously would be trickier to organise)
Also, does flashing your headlights override the matrix system? (E.g. would it immediately illuminate all blocks, even whilst actively masking another car?)
This is one of the real improvements I want for my model 3, I had an Id3 for 18 months and absolutely loved their matrix headlights.
Looking good, that Burley road, is always one to watch especially at night!
Love how the New Forest has so much free to roam wildlife :)
Great video! It's very useful to have you explain what is happening while showing it in editing. Good stuff.
🤞 for previous models soon
Thank man I was about to ask.
Indeed. Same here. 🤞🤞🤞 I thought they had different hardware on headlights..?
Only for facelifted models. 😢 I've got 2020 and it blinds everyone. 😅
@@borinvlogs I’ve got 2023 model Y… 🤞
not sure. mine is facelifted (late 2021) but to my knowöedge the matrix has never been homologated before Highland
Great demo Richard!
Awesome test. Thanks. If only the auto wipers worked this well. Perhaps they should have a “learn” mode to set a delay interval.
I wait for the wiper update eagerly
Wiper update comes out soon :)
Now, I don't want to defend Tesla any way, auto wipers should at least work acceptably. But there was an update around christmas time which improved them decently, but still not perfect. Tesla said it's harder than initially thought to get a neural network to correctly detect the amount of rain via a camera, which I, as a software engineer understand completely.
You have to know, the neural network has to work in all light conditions, as well as different "rain" conditions (snow, hail, ice rain), and in foggy weather as well as to filter out any dirt or dust on the windshield in front of the camera.
They will get there sooner or later, with enough training data, I don't doubt it. Does it take a long time? Yes. Are people right when they say it's about time Tesla should get them working correctly? yes. Is it as simple as people think it is? No.
@@IceW4ve Is it difficult only because Tesla chose a stupid solution for a simple problem that has been solved over 25 years ago? Yes.
@@dwergmaster I am 100% sure the engineers know it's not the best solution right now but probably Elon decided otherwise :P
Can't wait for the update to my 2022 y , had enough of flashing drivers
Are they coming to the MY? I also have a 22’ Y
@@tommendoza1812 MY(at least the latest ones) have matrix headlights, but they’re pretty low resolution. Technically they could just do a software update and turn it on, but nobody knows if they will do that.
@@tommendoza1812 2024.8
Excellent review. Do the headlights dim for the road signs too as the Mercedes do? The reflective signs can be quite blinding but the Mercedes system helps a lot
Really useful to see this video and see the difference this makes.
Been waiting for this!!
Got the update on my new Tesla the other day - it's amazing on country roads.
Is that in the UK?
Thank you for all your videos. I’m going with my heart and getting the long range Model 3.
Appreciate all your time and effort.
What I have on order. Mind said RWD. Heart said AWD. 😀
This is an absolute gem of a review , the Matrix headlights tested on every scenario, excellent review Richard many thanks 🙏.
Brilliant information, 30 odd years ago I was a Peugeot salesman in Brockenhurst, all my customers wanted white cars, so my 2nd hand sales section was also white cars from their part exchanges, they wanted to be seen when driving at night, we also got Donkeys and cows wandering into showroom if we had the big doors open, donkeys just wanted carrots
Brilliant video and analysis. Well done xx
Thanks so much!
I have Audi Matrix LED and they really are incredible I agree! Thanks for the video
Nice video, do I need to enable this in the settings on my m3 highland? I going to have to do a drive around the block now😂. I did see an update message yesterday.
this is a great explanation of matrix tech.
Impressive. Better at blanking out oncoming traffic then the matrix lights I had on my Audi RS6 performance
Thanks Richard. Looks amazing, if a little hard to appreciate fully, given the parameters of a CZcams video. As previously mentioned, my "Auto High Beam" is next to useless, so I eagerly await the update....
Great for tesla to finally get matrix lights. Was one of the showstoppers for me and picked enyaq. And a nice video. ❤
Thanks for the detailed explanation, Richard. As you infer, a definite improvement would be to default to dipped beam in well-lit urban areas.
Great work Tesla team
Any estimates as to when this will release for 2022 models
Fantastic and informative video as always Richard.
I bought my 2022 model 3 Performance from you in March last year, my wife now has a 2020 Merc EQC and the matrix headlight are brilliant, so I am looking forward to the Tesla software update. Really enjoying you video's - keep'em coming!!
Great to hear! EQC also has working rain sensors!
Ive watched you videos on the new higland and i dont think you mentioned that you have a touch pad between the sun visors which can be used for the drive controls instead of the screen.
Any chance of looking at the refresh matrix headlights now the software update is rolling out?
It would be nice to know the software version.
I've got a 23 plate M3P - can't wait for the Matrix Headlights... Finally!
Wondering if there is an option to switch the beam to the right hand site when you cross the channel to France ?
What does the high beam do within a city? Where high beam is not allowed?
Do you have a guide on how to use cruise control on the highland? Every time I press it the car just accelerates instead of sticking to the speed I was driving at
I'm really surprised, I think a part of this might be also due to the better cameras that the highland has too, higher quality and able to see other vehicles better, but how fast it reacts especially to cars coming across is really good. I REALLY hope they give the older headlights this function, especially since the Y referesh is still a while away and there's so many 3s and Ys with the older design.
Adaptive headlights activated today on my 2021 Model 3 in the UK, wooop
Cant wait to get this on my 2021 model 3
As you know, we had the active matrix function rolled out to earlier Teslas, as short while ago. And, frankly, it's been amazing, totally, amazing... I just NEVER get flashed anymore, with using the adaptive function. It does exactly what you show. I drive regularly on a mixed route, from Guildford to Epsom, on the back roads around Fetcham & Bookham, Headley, and The Cock Inn, and used to get flashed all the time. It's a regular route for me, and since the update, I don't even seem to be flashed as much using the regular dipped-beam lighting, but maybe that's just my imagination?
It reacts faster than most. To make it better for winding roads, those lights should turn along the bend. Mercedes and VAG-group has also kind of a half dimming for road signs and other shiny surfaces.
They look like a massive improvement on the regular auto dipping. Roll on bringing out the update for the previous model.
Richard can you guys do a test where you drive towards the Tesla to see how effective it actually is for others
When halogen headlights were introduced I believe they had to have washer jets to keep them clean. My audi has matrix LED headlights and has these too. Presumably the Tesla has also even if it was only a software update?
(Reason being, of course, that dirty headlights can dazzle because the dirt scatters the light in all directions.)
No, they don’t have headlight washers.
No - Under a certain lumen, you do not need to have washers. Tesla has always stayed below this threshold to avoid this rule to trigger, hereby saving some $ per vehicle.
But to be honest - I had washers on my previous car. Every third time I used the windshield washers, it also sprayed the headlights. Worst shit function ever! Spraying all of the front of my car, even if it was a clear summer day, and I just wanted to remove some bugs from the windshield
Maybe you broke them somehow. Not sure how that was a bad thing, if you had a reason to wash your windshield then for sure headlights were not any less dirty, plus they donòt turn on in any quality car with only DRL or standing lights, you can switch to that if you are driving at night, but they @@apekatt2007
are these matrix on current Model Y as well but not activated ?
Apparently 2024.8.3 update to the pre HL cars will bring matrix headlights. Will be interesting to compare to the HL matrix lights.
Very clever 👍
Love this ❤
Cheers mate
My 2023 Nissan Ariya has matrix headlights and they’re absolutely brilliant.
I know it’s unlikely to happen, but it would be amazing if they could make the wipers work properly 🤞🏼🤷🏻♂️
Update due
Waiting eagerly for this update
@@RSEV😂😂😂
I had to go into the settings to adjust my 72 plate MY. Took a few tweaks but at least I do t get flashed anymore. The big question is will Tesla update my MY lights or will I end up with a highland first🤷♂️😂
Have had the update now.
Only done a few night miles but hugely impressed so far.
A big upgrade from the original Auto High Beam which (at least in my case) was very unsatisfactory.
Can usually tell when a Tesla 3 or Y is behind you; their lights are often way too bright (or badly adjusted). Same when you pass one on the opposite side.
Indeed, hopefully a thing of the past soon!
Is it these cars blinding me when I’m walking
Cant wait for my 2022 RWD
I can confirm, they are excellent
Hi Richard, An interesting video of the new matrix lights, just a thought…How do the headlights react to cyclists? Cycling at night is a big problem if cars don’t dip. Also led light patterns often still dazzle on low beam. Be interesting to know at what point the car detects oncoming cycles with low power lights. M
In Germany it`s illegal to use high beam in urban areas which may account for the Porche lights.
Interesting…!
Same in Norway
That is not entirely true. You can activate high beams there if there is not sufficient street lighting.
Dafuq is Porche? His name was Ferdinand Porsche
Thank you for your video and your commentary! It is by far the best documentation of Tesla headlights on the internet. You can do a follow-up in rainy conditions to see how the software copes with blinding reflections from wet roads. Additionally, the video quality is more than sufficient for the demonstration. 👉Lastly, I value your work overall. Your recent videos have addressed my two main concerns with my M3H on order-the missing ultrasound sensors and the headlights-leaving me without any second thoughts!
Thank you for understanding the quality is hard to get at night but hopefully served the purpose to demo and explain how work
ultrasound, just like radar for cruise and rain sensor, those two things unfortunately wont be avoidable, never will work properly based on cameras alone. But headlights sure will work well after they combine the camera feed with map data, yaw sensor, some manufacturers did away with high beams using radar data and it works well so far.
I am surprised... the old highbeam function was useless. Now I can leave it on all the time. Its not perfect but so far not a single driver did flash at me 🎉 and the beam of the HL lights in general is so much wider. Its not using mapdata for turning highbeams off in a city - it does turn it off when it recognizes streetlights I guess... It works great in my city but I saw at the end its not working in yours... hmm. Different Streetlights?
also been waiting for this Richard - when do you think the software update will be rolled out to 72 plate model Ys?
Not soon enough…
Probably in the next few months.
@@dronesurge will be keeping my eye out on the forums to gauge when other 72 plate MYs start getting it
Thanks Richard, a great demo. The auto high beams on my '23 Model Y are frankly embarrassing and drivhng down the A34 past Newbury at night is quite stressful. Can't wait for the update to reach the previous cars.
.... "drivhng down the A34 past Newbury at night is quite stressful": - so just turn off auto high beam and dip the lights yourself for now?!
Good video…..my main concern is dazzling pedestrians, cyclists and as you say shining into houses and side on motorists. These automatic headlights are all very nice but I remember when cycling in the dark when oncoming motorists don’t dip their headlights I had to literally stop because I lost orientation it was so bad.
That must be one of the few new features they rolled out as an update that doesn't completely suck upon release. It looks really well refined. Sure, there's always room for improvement, but it's definitely ready to release.
Amazing to think that it's been 11 years since Audi introduced matrix headlights on its R18 Le Mans race car as a "world first" ....
Now we don't give the technology a second thought, it's even available on a VW Polo! 😀
And there with a much better quality
And has never worked. And weird the Richard and many more say Matrix when this is VW adaptive headlights.
In conditions like these sure it works okey but when the road is more complex or frost/ice/dirt in the headlights then it's really dangerous.
I had adaptive headlights on my 2013 BMW, worked really good
@@andreljungberg4255 You might think that 😏
@@Adderrrrr U might think u we’re born before 2013
Will a brand new model y get them, got one coming March ?
Thanks
Eventually but on a later update.
Do any versions know to kust dim the road signs reflecting back at you or does it just blind you with the reflections. My Ariya does this and im sure its not the only car to do this.
The highland does indeed blind me a bit with big sign reflections.
@@realmcerono this may be something Tesla can add to the headlights but it could take 2 months or 2 years the way Tesla do things.
Matrix is a trademark for adaptive headlights from VW the group.
Is highbeam legal when street lights illuminate the road?
This looks okey the issue is when the headlights has water/frost/smuts on the in or outside.
Thank you! Do you know or think if this feature will switch automatically the headlights of a UK market car when crossing /driving in EU as to eliminate the requirement for a headlights defusers when we from UK drive our cars in EU?
Beam deflectors are required on traditional dipped lights that have a higher beam into the kerb and a lower beam into the oncoming lane. Tesla matrix lights have a flat dipped beam so don’t need to be deflected.
@@bluenova1000 The pre-highland model 3s have a noticeable kick up on the left which causes problems abroad for a lot of people. Ours would definitely have been catching people coming the other way if I hadn't have adjusted them down.
I thought [believe that] they did that already, even with the old headlight software.
@@ramblerandy2397 I think they may have done with one of the updates in the second half of last year, but definitely weren't the last time we were over in Easter 23.
@@bluenova1000 Thank you!
Hopefully software update soon on pre Highland model 3 .I miss this feature on my 2023 M3P Coming from an Audi A5 with Matrix LED.
Thanks for a good presentation of the active matrix headlights. In some way i would like to have them on my 2019 model 3, but now when the warranty expires, I’m not sure if i dear to have them. The cost of replacing them might be too high. My comments are based on a friends experience of having an Audi A8, which need to replace both headlights. His Audi dealer are insisting that to replace both headlights will cost nearly £14,000. When his car was new, he paid approach £5000 extra compared with led lights. I hope that Tesla are not tempted to the same level of margins, but I still suspect it will be quite expensive!
All cars after 2021 or so have this tech and hardware - It's just not enabled per software. Which again means that any headlight from a model 202X+ car from the local junkyard will have it, not just random extra expensive cars where the owners did an upgrade
Great video Richard. I have never seen this technology before. I have a 2023 Model Y. Hopefully we will get this technology authorized on our roads in the USA. Not sure if my vehicle is equipped with this technology. Thank you again.
You have the hardware required. Tesla will release the update for your car as well, but the Highland model gets it first
@@apekatt2007 Well, no, that will not happen. Adaptive high beam headlights are not allowed in the U.S. even though legislature has in principle approved their use. The U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration may be years away from defining standards.
i only wished your video had a much better quality. I think the camera you filmed it with was a cheap on? Although i must say that the high beams respond the quickest than any other car to switch to low beams.
I only had a go pro at the time but the idea was to show how they worked and the response time
The quality is hurt by it being dark. Go pros struggle on low light. But it was still decent to see it in action.
use a smartphone, they handle low light much better, especially the iphone on video@@RSEV
Both my electric Mini and my 2023 Defender with matrix headlights drop to dipped beam for street lighted areas and if my speed drops below 30 mph on the open road. The range of the Mini’s matrix headlights on high beam is way longer than the 2023 Defenders too. Defender’s also are slow to react like that Range Rover’s were, Mini’s are much more sensitive - maybe due to better resolution cameras on the Mini?
I wonder if the headlights will use more battery with this enabled?
There will be a smidgeon of extra power needed for the fancy electronics. This will be measurable in milliwatts, but the saving in turning LED segments off will far out way any increase in power for the electronics.
The reaction time looks good way better than automated high beam, I don't think any of the oncoming vehicles flashed their headlights. Do matrix lights mask out pedestrians at all? I'm just wondering how the driver meets the Highway Code requirement 114, MUST not "use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to other road users, including pedestrians, cyclists and horse riders". Is there a manual dipped beam override for the driver or is the system intelligent enough to cope?
Pedestrians and cyclists would be interesting. With cycle paths often being next to country roads (often a bit lower than the road), it really sucks, when drivers decide not to put down their high beams (which they would definitely do for other car drivers).
Definitely much better!! 🤞🤞 for rest models…
And I agree…, a bit more power/shining higher/further would be even better but anyway…, much better.
Same issue with Auto Main Beam on rest of cars… still on at 5mph around houses, street light, etc…
I am super excited on my new model 3 when it will be shipped out. Its still in the port of shanghai waiting for a ship. For god sake I can't wait to drive it
I did not see much difference to my Model Y. I travel along in a Dark Sky area and never had a problem with seeing with my lights. They dip and full beam, and I have never been flashed. This may be useful when I go to France however, as I have to adjust my headlights for left hand drive.
Shame you don't have a stalk you can flick to override the main beam at junctions - can you manually do that without the stalk?
Yes button on steering wheel
@@RSEV ta
Does the standard car get the matrix lights aswell?
Yes. Same hardware
@@apekatt2007 awesome, ive been looking for a reason to get a LR instead of SR but i cant really find one.
@katchaontheflipside It basically sums up to:
- One motor instead of two. Less horsepowers and only rear wheel drive
- Fewer speakers. One less sub
- Some different door panels, but looks almost better than the LR
- Smaller battery/shorter range
@@apekatt2007 Thanks thats what i thought aswell. Nobody buys a Tesla for its interior i think😅
As an audiophile im taking my own amps, sub and speaker from my current car, OEM systems will never beat aftermarket there.
i dont really need the AWD. Think not having the front motor makes a more dynamic car + RWD is fun^^
Also the extra range, its not that much right? Especially everyday use charging to 80% (with LFP to 100% no problem i believe)
@katchaontheflipside I chose the RWD as well. Coming from the 2019 Long Range, the range of a 2024 SR is almost the same as my 2019 LR.
The front motor in the LR is only active when needed for grip or acceleration, so during normal driving, the LR is basically a RWD.
Compared to the 2024 model, SR has about 530km WLTP VS 678km WLTP compared to the Long Range (18" wheels with aero covers on)
For someone who had matrix headlights on a previous Audi before I bought my Tesla. I would say 50% of people were flashing me as they were still too bright for the incoming driver 🤷🏻♂️ even though I could see the beam working by dipping and shutting down where the car was I was still being flashed.
Will this be added to the model Y? They have the matrix hardware (as proven with the light show) so surely just a software update?
Indeed, it’s due to follow
@@RSEV cool. I only take delivery of my model y LR on the 9th March so hopefully not long after. Also curious to see if it will have HW4 out of the Shanghai gigs factory
My first car to have adaptive headlights was a Mercedes C63 in 2016, they were fantastic, even better than the laser lights in my new BMW i4. I’m surprised that the main beam on the Tesla is on where there are street lights and also at low speeds, as you described. The lights also don’t seem to follow bends in the road to ensure the near side kerb is illuminated at all times, this is pretty basic even without adaptive lights. In my experience the best way to see the effects of adaptive headlights is to follow a car on a fairly wide single carriage way, the C63 used to amaze me how far in front of the car in front I could see with the car blanked out…..but all in all adaptive headlights are always a big advantage if you do much night driving on country roads
Facelift i4 has the same sytem as your C63, your i4 has an older version Mercedes used from 2009 to 2013, BMW just kept it until now, althought I would argue it is better as a whole, as it is smarter and better at avoiding blidning other driverrs and lets call it, operators ignorance and stupidity. Although BMW did put a lot of failsafes when it moved away from what you have in your i4.
Rules of adaptive high beams, never in rain, snow or fog, any fall from the sky. Other, never at interscetions, ramps and twisty roads, the low beam is designed well enough. BMWs have been programmed for that now, and Mercedes obviosyl.
What models (year) actually have the matrix hardware?
Mid 2021 and newer. Model 3 and Y
20:30 hope my 2021 model 3 performance gets update soon…🤔
Is the Matrix’s headlights a software upgrade over air, is it free?
Yes. For the cars with the right hardware at least.
Fearing for the update on my 2021 TM3 LR. There has just been so many issues, failed patches and flaws on the assist systems since the "Vision" horror downgrade
finally some good working software as we usually expect it from TESLA!
Main issue I have with my Model 3 Highland is with Trucks on the highway. There's a divider on the highway with some sort of low height obstruction like bushes or some artificial panels, these are fine for normal cars but what I found is that they obstruct oncoming truck headlights so from the Tesla's Cam POV it would only see the high cabin dim presence lights which are NOT enough to trigger the tesla into seeing a truck.
TLDR: Only issue I have is with a vast majority of European truck designs having lower lights which are obstructed by the natural highway divider barrier. So the tesla cams dont think there's a vehicle there and shine the lights onto their cabin. Annoying but not too frequent, usually happens with trucks further away.
Just wish everyone else was as considerate in the New Forest. To many animals getting hit..
the Model Y is one of the worst cars to have behind you, it lights up your whole cabin and cant see anything in the mirrors, so I really hope this is not as bad.
Should all change soon 🤞
Presume this update won’t be available on Model Y (23 months old from China)?
Should be at some point
Great, can't wait to my M3/21. So now they just (still) need to improve on the wipers, they where good a year ago, but now they suck again. Also they need to make the models run with tail lights on full time, and the lights to shut off when leaving the car, weather you selected them on manualy or not. And a long wish is to dim the screen when going into a tunnel, the lights comes on instantly, but the screen stays bright(very right i a tunnel) And last when in high beam, does it still flips up and down with roadsigns and other stuff like small street lights and it must switch to lowbeam when entering urban city areas with streetlights, it doesn't at the moment!! Other carmakes does that without problems!
Thanks for sharing, best example yet. But when approaching a well lit junction, couldn’t you just turn off the highbeam? Seems easier.
Surely the best test as to whether they work is how many people flash you on the way past, so to speak
And none did
Matrix function seems OK except road following function is missing (lights don't turn into the curve).
The power (#lumens) seems to below that of the MB EQE or the Volvo XC40 (or Polestar 2).
My model y w matrix headlights are basically like daylight hours with the brights on. Extremely bright and a very wide spread.
@@cangle37 Model Y headlights (and probably Model 3 pre-highland) are much brighter than the new Highland Matrix lights.
@@thomasegeland1847From a highland owner, and previous owner of a 2021 model 3 and 2022 model y, i can totalt confirm.
Much more even Light on the highland, but not as powerful
@@thomasegeland1847my M3 2020 lights are like half the brightness of my highland and so is the width. Huge difference but the 2020 had no matrix lens. But the highland lights are really good. There is no need whatsoever to have a light that turns into the corner now - the spread is so massive.
The power lumens and spread is weaker than the 2021-2023 Model 3. If those get upgraded to Matrix soon it will be better than the latest models.
Unfortunately ours is identical to your 'Graham', so nothing for us :(
This is really weird but cool. I'm not aware of this technology
Any cars flashing you with this on, or is it really that good?
None!
@RSEV I love to hear that! Now, only the windshield wipers remain 😅
@@apekatt2007 There is a software update for the wipers coming out in the next "month or two" according to a Tesla AI engineer.
I'm sure Richard will report on the improved functionality of the wipers as well. Whilst the matrix headlights are a great addition, from what I've seen and heard the auto wipers setting has been a more noticed deficiency for many Tesla owners. Infact the auto wipers functionality is the number 1 issue Tesla owners complain about. To be fair though auto wipers are never going to be 100% perfect. In our VW Golfs we've had in the past they mostly work reasonably well but were not perfect and like in Tesla's they can and do suddenly wipe a dry windscreen or react a bit slow or spasmodically to certain types of rain and drizzle. In light misty drizzle they can struggle.
I envy all you car owners who have matrix headlights. Mine’s got non-matrix LEDs and while I love how much they help me see, I’m always self-conscious about how they dazzle oncoming traffic despite being properly aimed and in low beam. If we’re all on level ground, it’s okay, but there are so many gentle slopes and curves in my area that it seems like my headlights are pointing straight into their windshields half the time. Localized dimming would be so helpful.
Very Nice Update its a good idea to have good lights for safety where there is no overhead lighting, and where you may come across a parked car with black paint where the owner has a L Plate on the rear LEFT side of the car, what im saying if you don't have good lighting and all you see is the reflection of the L Plate. what are you going to do and think car ? or maybe BIKE there are far 2 Manny cars with L Plates on the wrong side of the back end of the car wee overtake on the Right not on the Left. so if your were thinking that was a bike your going to run smack bang into the back of that car if you have bad lighting your reaction times are slower at night