Things Seem To Not Be Looking Good For Deshaun Watson | Pat McAfee Reacts
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2022
- The Deshaun Watson situation is so strange. Grand Jury not indicting, but more and more accusations and civil suits coming. Are we going to see Watson get a suspension from the NFL?
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I hope Baker sits out and says "sorry, I'm still getting over the injuries I played through last year"
Lmao sit out for what and not get paid. This ain’t basketball. He’s contracted is not guaranteed
@@deon3133 Baker this year is pretty much fully guaranteed hence why they haven't cut him & if he says he's hurt the Browns would have to prove he isn't in order to fine him
@@deon3133 Browns already said he's excused from the preseason.
Perfect!
@@deon3133 the 5th option is guaranteed money girl lol
I'm going to die laughing when Watson is suspended or banned and then Mayfield refuses to start 😂😂😂😂
I doubt it, I think he tries his best to ball out and get paid somewhere. It would be one big F -U to the browns and fans would want him to stay
Mayfield hold out for Mo Money
@@alexromero7142 I thought that too, what if Watson is suspended, and Mayfield goes out and has an MVP season.
I hope shake n bake refuses to play for them if Watson is suspended
Mayfield won't play. Browns even excused him from mandatory minicamp.
Out of all the bad moments in the history of the Cleveland Browns, trading for Deshaun Watson will go down as the worst moment of all.
Time will still tell…they obviously are planning on hiM getting suspended this year since his contract was negotiated for 1M this season..then they still have him for 3 years right ?..still could work out lol
They didn't waste much time topping that Johnny Football disaster.
Why? Tell me what's he actually accused of? What's the worst thing? You have no idea do ya? The worst claim is while naked he moved and his penis touched on of the girls hands. That's it. Lmao. This is Ll nothing.
Browns doing Browns things.
I don’t understand how you guarantee the whole damn contract when the entire investigation hasn’t concluded.. bonkers… guilty or not, being in a locker room with this guy HAS to be Very weird…
In a few years this will end up being one of the biggest collapses of a franchise in NFL history and of course the team that pulls it off is the Browns.
Collapse? A team would have to you know, be successful for it to collapse.
Collapse? There's nothing to collapse. Our team makes a threat once a decade...07 prior then in juju's terms the Browns bees the Browns and shoots itself in the foot. It's not a collapse when it's expected
I don’t think Huston gets out freely
Detroit Lions...."OH really, hold my beer".
@@mberto25 😂😂😂😂🤣bro so collapse but my man it’s only up from here unless u disappeared
Baker should ask for more money now. Browns are literally an embarrassment …….always have been
More money for what he’s not a good qb
@@deon3133 better than kyler Murray
@@deon3133 ONLY QB the browns have. Baker now has leverage
@@thechuckwagon5403 yea but their also used to losing so maybe they won’t give him more money 😂
How do they all have the same lawyer lol..
Is there no other lawyer in town
So many people have wanted to side with him. It’s good to hear you guys recognizing that there’s clearly something very wrong here.
Nothing wrong here women are lying
@@Kamdaddypurp69 oh good, here’s an example of the kind of person who ignores overwhelming evidence so that he can better support a serial predator.
@@Kamdaddypurp69 there are women that aren't suing him, or asking for money, that have come forward to give the same claims of disgusting behavior. What more does it take for everyone to see that this guy is a sex offender.
I wasn't there and I don't know what happened but I do know that IF you were to try to pull a scam on a wealthy person, this is literally how you do it. It HAS to be lots of accusers because everyone would dismiss it if it was just one or two. As hard as it is for some people to believe, it really is possible to get this many women to lie together for money....we live in a sick world.
THis is why uber wealthy people hire teams of lawyers. The entire goal of some of these scams is to frustrate the rich person so much and have them spend so much time and resources fighting every claim until its not worth it anymore. To put them in a situation where its cheaper and easier to just settle out of court and pay them six figures and send them on their way. With what we just saw with Johnny Depp, I'm surprised more people aren't acknowledging this especially Pat. He’s selling out.
This could really be all false...and what’s gonna happen to all these media talking heads afterwards? Nothing. On to the next trending topic.
@@jemazondo9331 you know that it's a fact that he had scheduled massages with at least 66 masseuse. There were supposedly at least a hundred other non professional women that he hired. There are woman non pressing charges, or asking for money, that claim the same inappropriate things.
There are text messages where he apologized for his behavior. He paid a spa to cover up his behavior. He offered the first 22 women $100k. He had NDAs with most women.
I guess they are all lying?
As a Colts fan, I watched my team play against Watson at least twice every season. He's a good QB, but he isn't worth ANYTHING NEAR the stupid guaranteed money Cleveland paid him even WITHOUT all these off-field risks and concerns. I'm afraid this is going to end up being just another case of the Cleveland front office being the Cleveland front office. I feel for Browns fans.
Yup. Even he does play. It’s a strong possibility they still may not be contenders. DW4 is a sack machine.
I mean as a colts fan if your worried about Cleveland that says a lot about the state of your franchise 🙄
@@ogxstanley9410 Are you high or something? How does my feeling bad for Browns fans say anything about my franchise? I just think it sucks for Browns fans that their team's ownership displays such complete incompetence on such a consistent basis.
Worry abt the colts and that sorry ass AFC South
@@ogxstanley9410 this might be the dopiest comment I've ever come across on CZcams
Something that's also a bad look for the Browns is that they structured Watson's contract to only pay him a few million over the first couple years. Its like they anticipated him being suspended. Which, if you want to maintain your integrity, just looks bad if an organization is knowingly bringing in a guy that has done bad things. I feel terrible for fans of the franchise
Why is it hard to believe there are 24 women willing to lie for millions and millions!....
Bruh they all have the same lawyer and none of them went to the police first.. all went straight for the bag...
Don't forget that 9 of the women bragged about massaging him.......
to be specific, his salary for year 1 is 1 million with a $45M signing bonus and then years 2-5 he makes 46 m per year
Its to the teams benefit though as well. They now have more salary cap space to bring his replacement (or retain Baker). It might look bad but its a win-win for the browns and watson.
To clarify I think it was a dumb move to trade for him in the first place but if you've already set on him that the way to have any suspension impact the team the least.
@@zienawim96 24 people lying about anything is a little bit crazy
@@123chargeit oh I completely agree with you that it makes sense financially for both parties the way the contract is structured. But morally for the Browns its messed up
I truly am sad to be a lifelong Browns fan. Nothing but misery, sucks man. How do you not jump ship? Now this?! 37 yrs as a fan and nothing but sadness.
Not as sad as Deshauns life.
I'm right there with you. I've gotten so used to saying "typical Browns."
Truly enjoy this circus as a Bengals fan, sorry man.
@@mrblaze187 fluke season
I actually feel really bad for Browns fans. Your organization sucks
What always struck me as weird…if this wasn’t about happy endings etc. Deshaun can literally get free massages from the Texans staff every day.
exactly. And if he wanted happy endings.... go to a massage brothel or hire a escort. him going to civilians demanding extras is... a perversion
@@philwill0123 bro doesn’t even need to pay, if he has any sort of game
@@alexromero7142 if he found one of those women who "consented" and "gladly" helped him for free..... why would you need to visit any other? Massage/ happy ending/ non prostitute/ discretion because its consensual, mutual attraction/ free etc. Hell, with the amount he needs massaging, you would date her to get that as fringe benefits. 66+ separate visits? Either he has the worst luck in massage therapists, or there is a reason he only visits once.
How come it never struck you as weird that not a peep was heard until ge wanted out of houston.
@@fracturedsolace145 what strikes me is texans were probably aware ( though not the extent). But when he's their golden boy, they will cover that stuff up. Moment he wanted to leave, they be like " all bets are off, we not covering your ass".
Would be interesting to find out if texans were at any stage "intimidating," witnesses
Never thought I’d be rooting for a Browns QB, but let’s go Baker!!
As a Falcons fan...we dodged a bullet..
it is just too bad that we had to use Matt Ryan as a shield for it.
You sure did.. will be interesting to see how Matty does in Indy. At least you'll always have 28-3.
@@uzi978 😂
@@uzi978 congratulations on making the least original comment of the week.
Why is it hard to believe there are 24 women willing to lie for millions and millions!....
Bruh they all have the same lawyer and none of them went to the police first.. all went straight for the bag...
Don't forget that 9 of the women bragged about massaging him
@@zienawim96 spot on!
Cleveland: we've improved immensely in the last 3 years, finally won a playoff game, we're really trending in the right direction.
Also Cleveland: We've got a great idea..... hear me out...
Hahahahah exactly, I hope Baker gets paid elsewhere.
Yeah we did have something going for us UNTIL they signed Watson !!!!!! Now the browns Are REALLY hitting rock bottom!!!!!!!!
Yeah we did have something going for us UNTIL they signed Watson !!!!!! Now the browns Are REALLY hitting rock bottom!!!!!!!!
Yeah we did have something going for us UNTIL they signed Watson !!!!!! Now the browns Are REALLY hitting rock bottom!!!!!!!!
Yeah we did have something going for us UNTIL they signed Watson !!!!!! Now the browns Are REALLY hitting rock bottom!!!!!!!!
Pat writing down loquacious and putting a line under it is classic 🙌🏾🙌🏾🤣🤣🤣
I’m not mad at Cleveland for making the trade but giving him that contract is the worst thing imo
As a Saints fan I can't thank the Browns enough for swooping in and getting the deal done at the past second. We don't have to deal with this mess and we saved cap room for Mathieu and Landry
Facts, I was thinking the same thing!
WhoDat!
same as a panthers fan. i was getting a little concerned
Ever wonder if Saints were just feigning interest to push up the price? Rumor was ATL and CAR were the teams in the mix. Something I considered at least.
Yea we doged a bullet there, although I wanted to just keep jamies anyways. Who dat…
Some sports fans are sooooo creepy with how hard they justify this stuff.
And there are 10s of thousands ok with it, " jury seen nothing wrong" so its right
Not trying to justify it because he could have forced himself onto them, but if you get a random dm from a celebrity you have 0 contacts with before and they want to fly you out to give them a massage, what do you think they want? Let me change the situation, if you’re at a club and you meet a guy that invites you to their place, what do you think they really want? Again, if he forced himself onto them that’s fucked.
Black people predominately I’ve noticed more than anything and not just in sports but black people try to protect black people at all costs necessary.
@@limitedbom2206 uhm.. of they do it for a living then it's not unusual too happen especially from high profile clients...
@@richardgrace5043 yea im sure they get dms on instagram for business all the time instead of through their actual contacts.
Takes like these is what make me love this show. Also, I feel terrible for browns fans, they put faith into their organization and the browns let their fans down in a major way.
Thank you, I am heartbroken, I love the browns but this I cannot stand for. I don’t know if I’ll ever forgive them for this decision. Great pic by the way, I love ITYSL
I feel bad for only the fans who didn't want Watson, many celebrated the pick up. May Steeler fans were upset Pittsburgh let Cleveland get him. I was thrilled this train wreck went to Ohio
@@tipsyt1909 The browns did too much now you don’t want to be around anymore
As a Falcons fan, I'm glad the Browns won the bid. Arthur Blank, Like everyone else, knew 230 million guaranteed was fukn madness.
@Tipsy T you are lame as hell. Watson has been proven innocent
As an Ohio native.. it’s moments like this that kept me from really ever becoming a Browns fan. They’ve turned being a dumpster fire into an art form.
You could never be a Browns fan. You will never know of that kind of loyalty
I’ve been a Cubs fan since the mid 90’s.. long before they won it all and had the longest current championship drought in professional sports. They’ve pretty much sucked since then as well after dismantling one of the best teams ever.
At least as an A's fan, we make the playoffs occasionally lol
It’s embarrassing how highly Cleveland thinks of the Browns
@@jessecrum9069 That’s like saying it’s embarrassing how highly you think about your wife. We are LOYAL no matter who is on the field. Ups and downs. Sorry I didn’t jump ship to the Steelers cause I couldn’t handle losing, that’s more embarrassing tbh
We saw this coming. When it was 20+ randoms off IG, you KNEW what he was doing. The people defending him were simply naive. These top-level guys have one, maybe two, actual and real masseuses work on them. People they trust. Not sliding into girls DMs on IG for “massages”.
I’m not so sure. I played a little football, and had other injuries from other sports, mostly powerlifting. (You have to train over your max weight powerlifting, all get injured.) I’m sure Watson is banged up worse than I am, he’s a shrimp. Once a week massage just isn’t enough. Bad weeks you’d want once a day, if you can afford it. (And some injuries massage therapy is almost the only thing that helps. Massage and water therapy.)
I’d rather stay with someone good that I like. And getting along with them does matter, right after massage skill. But that’s impossible for a normal guy, availability issues. How it works for a multi-millionaire, though, I can’t say.
I DO know most of the “oooh” and “aaah” over the number of massages is just ignorance. That’s really not a problem. Number of different masseuses, again not sure but could easily be availability. It’s the solicitation. (Even there though, lots of ignorant comments. “He wuz NEKKID!” duh, ya, that’s how it works.)
Agreed. How could the Brahns be this stupid? This was pretty clearly what was going on the entire time. If anyone couldn’t see it, it’s because they didn’t want to.
@@randallturner9094 over 100 masseuse in a short time frame? No athlete does that. None
So know he guilty 😂. Okay
@@randallturner9094 🤣What!? You realize the TEAMS have masseuses on staff for their players... right?
I’ve never seen the public perception of a player change so drastically and rapidly as Deshaun Watson. From great qb and good guy to a straight pervert
There's a very easy way to avoid this problem lol
He was 4-12 his last season, not like he was ever a great QB. Look what Rodgers does with far less
@@gameofstones6560 lmaooooooo less than that 2019 houston team?!?! i get watson is garbage but lets not rewrite history, that team was garbage and no matter the qb they were winning 4-6 games max
@@amapnamedpam there are some years I would argue less yea, Devante left and they are still projected to win 11.5 games this year and win the NFC with a marginal defense. That’s QB impact. But agreed Watson is garbage
@@gameofstones6560 @mark parrilla if you are saying Watson as a person is garbage then okay but as a starting nfl qb the guy is easily a top 5 qb
I'm an MT and worked for a pro soccer team once upon a time. I've had a dozen+ pro-athlete clients and numerous friends in the same professional boat in Houston. I've only heard of NDA's used once or twice.
I love deshaun watson, he was my favorite qb. At first with this situation I was being ignorant and thinking he was being set up. However as time goes on he is definitely guilty no way this many woman are lying. In my opinion he should never be allowed to step on a football field again.
I wasn't there and I don't know what happened but I do know that IF you were trying to pull a scam on a wealthy person, this is literally how you do it. It HAS to be lots of accusers because everyone would dismiss it if it was just one or two. Even if they dont have evidence, the fact that there's so many accusers makes him guilty in people's minds. Thats the point of some of these scams, to get a wealthy person frustrated and using up lots of his resources fighting so many claims until its literally not worth it. When you're uber wealthy, its easier to just settle out of court, give up a 6figure paycheck and send them on their way. This is why the uber rich have teams of lawyers. They literally don't have the time to deal with all the bs thrown their way.
As hard as it is for some people to believe, it really is possible to get this many people to lie together for money....we live in a sick world.
So If that's the case then why haven't ALL the women come out then ? He got not guilty in trial here and then didn't hear anything an now all of a sudden he lands biggest contract and now all of a sudden here comes more women coming out hmmm no coincidence 🤔 whatsoever , something isn't adding up here on the case of all these accusations just looks like a money grabbing situation here
What is he guilty of? Asking for a hand job?
I mean more women probably coming out because he got rewarded with a record contract. I mean if your mom gf or wife was a professional masseuse and their client was pressuring for a "happy ending" honestly how would you feel..with that being said I think some of these are just tryna get a paycheck but not all of them
Why should he not play 🤔,? I bet if each girl became a Millionaire three him it would disappear
This whole saga makes me feel better about being a Jags fan.
It shouldn't
Just until the regular season starts
As someone who lives in Jacksonville. I completely agree with you. I am not a Jaguar fan. But at least Shad Kahn has morals, in his organization. And when someone was toxic like Urban Meyers. He was quick to fire him. Instead of doubling down on a mistake!
Mark Brunel era was legit a million years ago
Wait until Trevor gets MeToo blackmailed by all the desperate greedy women that ever walked within 100 feet of him. That's why the NFL needs to protect their players and employees from these ridiculous MeToo extortion schemes.
Will go down as the worst contract in NFL history. Ever
I'm sure their is some language in the contract that can get them out of the deal .. NFLPA is weak
Lmao not even close. Not once he starts playing. He's a top 5 QB, period.
Albert Haynesworth will be the worst for awhile still.
Lol, he might never play again, and calling him a top 5 QB is laughable. He only had one great year and two mediocre years and you have no idea what he can do anymore. Players lose a lot being out of the game and having personal and mental problems. He could be a complete bust. There are many, MANY, QBs I’d start tomorrow over him
31 of 32 teams, owners, and fans want that to be the case.
@@usernamesrlamo I’d start Baker over him in terms of talent. But Baker probably is too good for the Browns and wouldn’t play for them
You did a great job talking about this. NFL media needs to be speaking out more about this issue
22 accusations at the time Cleveland signed him to $40 million/year. WTF?
66 women in 17 months is HEINOUS bruh. And his attorneys even admitted happy endings were involved and tried to downplay it. Browns just gave that man the largest guaranteed deal in NFL history but he needs to be suspended for a WHILE. Minimum 1 year, hell you could even make the case he could be banned from the NFL.
If he was lgbt and it was 66 men would you say the same thing?
Suspended for what? What law did he break? Please explain to me how this is any worse than players taking strippers home.
Apparently he had consensual sex with 3. And flirted with a few others. I think his initial thought was not to get sex but once it happened with the first one a few times he decided to use them. I don’t believe he forced any of them.
@@justin-credible Yes, that would still be just as bad, Idk what kind of point you were trying to make fam 🤨
@@byronsmith3152 Trying to get 66 women, who are simply there to give you a massage, to suck your dick is WAY different than taking a stripper home. 66 in 17 months is basically 1 new woman every week for almost a year and a half. Stop it.
I’m so happy my team is not in this mess. I’d be so pissed if I was a Browns fan.
Agreed. So grateful the Saints didn’t get him
Me too!
we are.
He almost came to the Saints it'd be a mess!!! We're better now
Pissed doesn’t cut it… Browns fan 🤚🏼
Lifelong Browns fan here, born and raised in Cleveland. It’s very difficult for me to support my team through this. Baker Mayfield has a lot of growing up to do, of course. But the man is good at heart and gives his 100% to his team, family, and community. For the Browns to sign someone with the flawed and awful moral character of Watson is honestly enough for me to not watch this year. The franchise cares much more about wins and losses than it does about character and it’s sad to see. Even more concerning are those in my community who are defending Watson through this, despite him having zero loyalty to Cleveland. Just goes to show how MOST people truly only care about wins and losses. Says a lot about the state of sports in our society and communities.
Immorality has been an issue in the USA over the last 25 years.
@@BobbyBimmer LOL It's been an issue since the founding of the country!
Eli Forbes Hopefully you CAN watch this year, once they suspend Watson.
@@melissah8415 to be fair, I think it’s a human issue. Not really an American issue.
@@leadguitarCA True, true, but for someone to say that the US has only had immorality for the last 25 years is just so untrue I had to comment.
I'm from Houston and I'm very familiar with this hotel...it's a giant fitness and health club with a hotel attached to it. They have all sorts of fitness and spa facilities, and I think they even have physio type rehab training space too. For a player recovering from an injury, it is a perfect place to do light recovery workouts and receive treatment all in the same place. So if you're doing a couple rehab sessions a day with massages and trainer time in between it would be the perfect place to do that sort of thing. Similarly if a star player wants to get a couple days of really focused recovery after a game, it would be a good place to do it. With that in mind, it makes total sense the team would have a standing room order for players wanting to use that facility to rest and recover from injuries/games. That whole side of this latest drama is a non-starter for me, at least on face.
Either he did it or its the greatest conspiracy ever created.
Texans gave him the rooms lol damn right
He definitely did it
He did it.
its simpler if he did it.
I think JFK may have him beat.lol😉
I honestly hope Browns have to pay for this mistake, it's disgusting that they got themselves in this drama.
They are paying. And they will be paying more. And they will pay more after that. No need to hope.
They don't seem to learn from previous mistakes. Off-field behavior affects on-field performance. I never even dated 60 women much less had sexual contact. If he were a woman, he would be labeled.
No the Browns are not on the hook to pay him after these new allegations they will skate
They are paying 230 million to be exact
8:16 it's not that elaborate. Texans owner is friends with the lawyer. Lawyer pays off girls to come forward. Girls make claims. Motivation is to show that even star QBs cannot break contracts in the middle of their contracts. Stop playing dumb. The Texans tried to burying him. That's why the Browns signed him. They'll probably be historically correct. This is actually pretty straight forward.
I always bring NDA's to my massages 🤣
Thank you! Finally, someone is using the word “predator!” I was a huge DW fan! I would love for it all to be untrue…but I know the patterns of a perpetrator and that I cannot deny! People say if he did it why didn’t he victimize all 66 women? Answer is because that’s not how a predator works. They don’t victimize everyone…they groom, they perfect their “skills” to know what to look for in a situation/perspective victim. They “test” the waters to see if someone will be an easy victim that they can control and manipulate before they victimize a person. Did he do this? Only he, God and these women know for sure. But, the pattern of his behaviors speaks volumes.
I respect you guys for not just mentioning this and moving on but actually covering this on your show. Why hasn’t ESPN been all over this story? I know they’ve covered it but just feels like today’s day and age they would be really pushing this. If this was Brady or Rodgers or Mahomes would they be covering it differently?
Edit: with ESPN I’m mostly talking about on their tv programming.
Why should they be over this story.
Potentially deflating footballs is so much more serious than what Watson did. ESPN had to cover DeflateGate 24/7 for weeks, months.
/s
Because he’s black
We know exactly why. It doesn’t fit the narrative in the oppression Olympics. Do you believe the black athlete or the black women involved?
@@D.Wagner2 yep. If Watson was white he would have been banned from the NFL forever.
Would be interesting if someone started digging around his time in Clemson. Can't be his first rodeo....Texans...rodeo...I'll see myself out.
rodeo experience: Cowboys qb potential
6:26 hahahahaha their faces.
As a lifelong Browns fan, I’m taking applications for a new team to root for.
The fact that they signed him is a disgrace, the fact that the contract is bulletproof is completely idiotic.
Be jaguars fan. We got pools 😂
Be a 9ers fan, Trey Lance is the truth
@@Deo5051 big agree ma boi go jags
ill send ya an app to be a hawks fan, we need some loyal ones now that the fairweather fans left with wilson haha
Come to Pittsburgh. We have a bunch of changes at the moment but in the end we will be the same again. Cause we go the long way of winners.
Here's the thing, if it was about massages, he would have gotten a professional that was excellent at the craft in the area to work on him weekly, knows his body and what muscles need to be worked on. Having Instagram masseuse artists, by that many numbers, is a power move, it cannot be anything else.
Asking for handys is a power move😂😂😂
Any team in the NFL has people that can provide legitimate massages but that’s not what DeShawn wanted.
@@justin-credible well technically it’s a sexual assault move
@@zucchinibread7472 Wrong. It’s either sexual assault or it isn’t. And what he was doing CLEARLY was not close to sexual assault. It’s solicitation at worst.
@@justin-credible he allegedly ejaculated on one of the victims yet it’s not sexual assault ? Wow the idiocy
If this is all true, Watson should not be able to play in this league in my opinion. I truly hope it’s not true but if he did it then he doesn’t deserve to be in the NFL.
Notice how none of the 24 women went to the police first.. not... bruh.. that's crazy... and they all magically have the same lawyer.. this dude is setting him up
Bro, it's NOT true otherwise he'd be in jail. After all this is a civil suit, whatever the Verdict is he's not going to jail.
@@dimitri652 right we all know every criminal end should in jail especially the rich and powerful ones. All guilty people go to jail right Dimitri?
@@dimitri652 oj Simpson
@@Clark807 Two grand juries declined to indict him because of a lack of evidences, I guess that's not enough for you and lastly, at the end of the day he's not going to jail however the verdict swings.
Joe Thomas, the perfect example of how life gets better when you leave Cleveland! 🏈
66 massage therapists is nuts. 24 have come forward so far, this mess seems to be growing.
all the while, they craped all over Baker. Dude needs to bounce imo
He's trying to but they won't trade him
He's stuck under contract for another year lol
"Don't burn bridges."
- Confucius
"Pass me that flamethrower"
- Browns
Baker does need to bounce
@@scoutwithoutclout LOL! -no doubt
Lmao remember when he had Mia Khalifa playing basketball in his crib in a maid outfit..now everyone is shocked 😂😂
no shot that was a thing 💀💀💀
Love Pat McAfee the football player the man the myth awesome show brother
Paul Brown back in the 70s had a couple of off duty police officers shadow Ken Anderson (Bengals rookie quarterback) for a year or two...Making sure he stayed away from potentially problematic people and situations...Some thought that overdoing it, but he was probably just ahead of his time...
What I hate most about the entire situation is that this is only a situation because he’s good. If it happened to a regular player or an employee, they would be fired and dealt with. I hate the privilege he gets. Even now people are more interested in his contract and whether he’s going to play than finding out the truth.
Just more proof white privilege isn’t real, but wealthy, celebrity privilege is.
That ending part of your statement is false 😂. And show the proof. Why out of 66 woman nobody report nothing
@@jumpstreet2425 did you miss the part about NDAs?
@@petermoore7796 NDA my butt. You dont get assaulted then sign a NDA
@@jumpstreet2425 you do when you're a woman half the man's size in a room with little to no power. When they have millions of dollars to ruin you however they may deem fit. Your privilege is showing
If this is all true then I don’t even think he should be in the league at all
He must be banned
The problem is very hard to prove for obvious reasons.
But Big Ben was fine raping 2 women and only getting suspended 6 games 😂 you need a nap sir
@@takezoman It would be insane if 66 different people could all tell the same lie without fault. Only time will tell but I don't think it would be hard to prove.
A lot of things are hard to prove, but this would not be one of them...
😂 that’s such a Cleveland Brown Situation. What did they expect….
Lmao 🤣 🤣 🤣 first thing I heard.. "not good, not good"
The fact that the Houston Texans gave him NDAs, hotel rooms and all this didn't break until he wanted out is SUPER suspicious to me.
It's always been sus that none of it came out until he wanted out PLUS the accusers' lawyer is the neighbor of the Texans' owner...
8:16 it's not that elaborate. Texans owner is friends with the lawyer. Lawyer pays off girls to come forward. Girls make claims. Motivation is to show that even star QBs cannot break contracts in the middle of their contracts. Stop playing dumb. The Texans tried to burying him. That's why the Browns signed him. They'll probably be historically correct. This is actually pretty straight forward.
This is what people aren’t talking about . Everything was cool till he wanted out, then all the allegations started.
The “he’s out there preying on people”
Hit me hard. Didn’t think of it like that
Pretty sure any court would throw out an NDA if a crime was committed by one of the parties. NDAs do not cover criminal activity.
Fact this is what they want the public to get mad so the nfl start panicking. Then thats gonna force deshaun to settle so he can play and not lose more money.
Got my popcorn, just watched this twice, it's just getting good. Anyone with common sense saw this coming. Thank God Pittsburgh had enough values to pass on this guy. The fact Cleveland mortgaged their future on him makes it extra sweet 👍
Don't know if I'd say it's a moral issue for the Steelers...
Dude if this somehow ends with the Steelers snagging Mayfield... I will laugh my ass off.
I'm 56 years deep in this team. They've had one season, in that time, to win a Super Bowl. Then Red Right 88 happened. With a solid team around him a healthy Baker could have done it. He's certainly not a top 5. But I'll take a top 15 over a pervert that may not play. Haslam is a greasy stool....and it's no wonder him and Watson share the same attorney.
I never realized how much the AFC West has been a thorn in Browns fans life. Sorry bud, go Broncos! lol
Baker is top 28
Just like how the accusers share the same attorney that lives about 300 feet away from the Texans owner
@@bobmoneybags6075 You're in major denial if you still think its a conspiracy at this point after theres been an FBI investigation. Watson is a sexual predator get used to it.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 bakers horrible.hes 2-14 with the game on the line and like 5 game ending INTS 3 last year he folds in tight games.hes Colt McCoy of this generations.hes 20-32 as far as QBs in the NFL.notbthe worst but nowhere near good enough to win a SB.watsons being extorted by a napoleonic attorney and some money hungry broke massage therapist.the media has made Watson look like an animal but if you read the case it's nowhere close to what their saying.
Well, whatever happens with Watson, they always have Baker--Oh wait a minute
9 of the women literally bragged about massaging him
@@zienawim96 deserves to be locked up
@@zienawim96 You have said the same thing in multiple comments. You are like talking to a brick wall.
@@zienawim96 Great, 24 of them have sued him.
@@zienawim96 What about the other 57? Are they also bragging?
Don't understand how a person do this 66 times and no criminal charges and the victims don't seek justice but a pay day. No matter what is signed if the law is being broken whatever signed is voided.
regardless of everything QB's are supposed to be leaders of men. Hard to respect and be led by a guy who behaves like this
Didn’t the Browns come out and say they did their “due diligence” when they announced that they had signed Deshawn Watson? What a load of crap.
Haslam probably called his attorney......which is the same as Watson's. for advice.
They did "don't dillegence" this time around
Yeah then it came out they didn’t tLk to any of the women. Lol
It's nice to know that at least one of the people talking about the article for 16 minutes actually read it.
Thank you for this
the baby yoda thing honestly made me cry from laughing soo hard. from the image of a grown man naked, holding his legs in the air.
Starting to sound like he belongs in jail for a long time.
Lmao what did he do
Two grand juries basically called these women liars.....
He's fine
@@zienawim96 they didn’t call them liars there is no evidence you can file a lawsuit against anyone
Starting to look like juries think a bunch of the accusers are lying prostitutes.
He flirted with the women and had sex with the ones who went along with the flirtation and or flirted back. I know a few strippers and escorts that do these ‘massages’. Remember Patriots owner got one of these happy endings massages.
I’d just kick him out of the league period. Not just one year, but for life. A regular citizen would have been fired immediately and probably be put in jail or something and this dude gets to go to work everyday like nothing is happening.
If it was a ( regular ) person you would never hear a single word about it.
Not only gets to go back to work but gets immensely rewarded. The NFL is a joke, they're the epitome of a woke corporation virtue signaling but when it comes down to it just look at DW
11:00 pat writing words down to work into promos for wrestling
And Deshaun refused to play for a whole year while getting paid. He screwed his teammates. He’s terrible human being and a terrible player.
The Browns need their own reality show.
I started rooting for Cleveland because of Chubb (as a lifelong Georgia fan) and I didn’t like Baker in college but he grew on me in Cleveland to where I was really rooting for him and all the rest of the guys on that team - for the underdogs to be the ones to finally turn things around for Cleveland after decades of pain for their fans.
But this whole situation has been such a fiasco… I hope that Chubb goes for 10,000 rushing yards this season but I hope the Browns lose every single game until Baker retires from the NFL.
I just can’t believe they actually did their “deep investigation” and didn’t say “ehh… we may not believe in Baker long term but let’s give him the final year of his contract - get him healthy and see if we can get a 2020 level performance… and then chase a guy from this upcoming rookie class”
To sign Watson and screw over Baker who really was a big part of them “turning things around” after two abysmal season… it’s insane.
Baker isn’t the great bambino… but I hope Cleveland gets an 80 year Baker Mayfield curse.
Why is it hard to believe there are 24 women willing to lie for millions and millions!....
Bruh they all have the same lawyer and none of them went to the police first.. all went straight for the bag...
Don't forget that 9 of the women bragged about massaging him
Well put.
Imo Baker is fitzmagic 2.0. can't build a whole franchise around him but I wouldn't be surprised if he became a journeyman who not just bounced around but occasionally put together really good seasons in the right environment.
Watson was getting massages because of his "Chubb..."
@@zienawim96 lmao you just going to reply this same copypasta comment all over this thread?
@@zienawim96 incel
As a Panthers fan, I'm glad Fitterer pulled the plug on the deal.
Texans fan here…thanks for those 1st round picks Brahns. High stepping our way to the podium every year
Davis Mills is a fun QB too, hope he might get some real improvements soon.
Won't be surprised if they suspend him for the whole year
He needs to be banned not suspended.
The guy from that’s good sports suggested put him on the commish exempt list till this is done and suspend him a year for every civil case he loses.
I like that idea.
Dude the Browns and Watson hope to GAWD he's only suspended a year. They planned for him to be suspended for a year in how they structured his contact.
Wouldn’t surprise me if it’s 2 or 3 years
It’s gonna be indefinite
Classic Browns - Alienate the only quarterback that has ever worked out for this guy...
My cousin had to sign an NDA whenever he was hired to paint Jeff Bagwell’s home and barn.
Pat writing down “loquacious” to look up later 👌🏼😂
Well, that's what happens when your defense is "happy endings aren't illegal."
What? Two juries refuse to indict?
@@justin-credible Thats just a matter of having sufficient evidence or not. The problem is DW denied nothing and simply said his actions weren't illegal. Well, maybe that's the case, but that doesn't make him any better a person.
@@4c3fr3h1y and?
@@4c3fr3h1y He’s 100% innocent then. No media lynching
@@4c3fr3h1y He’s a great guy who asks prostitutes for handys
Thank goodness we have a Joe Burrow who would never!!!😂😂😂😂😂
That faint sound you hear is Baker Mayfield laughing
Is that at a calculator in your pocket tee pat? 😂
The browns screwed this up, then on top of that give him that massive amount of money, just plain stupid! And what a slap in the face to Baker. Just a complete clown show up there. He needs to be locked up at this point, crazy predator. Glad my broncos signed good boy Wilson.
Im glad my Steelers signed Trubinsky, who wants that Watson headache
Why didn’t they speak up sooner rather than when he was in contract year? Broads looks a for the bag you know that…
@@GrenadeMan9000 the mistake by the lake wasn't the stadium.
you may not like that wilson deal soon enough...lol...did you see he is wanting over 300 million guaranteed for 5 years...bhaahahahahahaahahhahaah
As a Seahawks fan y'all have a big contract looming over you pretty quick
That being said, Wilson is a good person with morals and would never be in this situation 😂
Until all these allegations get sorted out he should definitely not be playing in the NFL this season or for the foreseeable future.
We can only hope. The nfl is pretty strict on this stuff too.
@@Deo5051 It's honestly a coin flip how the nfl and Goodell react.
@@richfitzgerald833 No it's not. The NFL is not going to let him off the hook. They don't need the heat at all with what's going on today in society.
As someone who works in a general counsel’s office, I would be shocked if that head of security was cleared to give NDAs out. I bet you the Texans GC is freakin’ spinning right now.
thanks Cleveland....An Atlanta Fan😬
If Watson really went to that many different massage therapists, his Kink is out there for the world to see. Like Skip said, the man is, at the VERY LEAST, a serial massage seeker lol
Which is weird, but not illegal.
i think we can all agree he is a creeper for sure
Enjoying sex doesn't make you a creeper,lol.
@@WellnessWizdom this is not about sex tho. If he only want sex he could have arrange for escorts. This is a power move to coerce women to do what he wants.
@@silverdrag4753 This!
Important to mention with the hotel situation that the hotel in question had a team account and that multiple players from the Texans used it as a sort of R&R retreat. I've seen it talked about as if the Texans gave Watson some secret hotel room, but the article even mentions that one of the rooms Watson used wasn't even under his name, it was for Texans training staff.
The circunstances around the NDA definitely warrant further clarification, but the hotel seems pretty above water. Pretty likely Watson took advantage of the hotel team account rather than the Texans wanted to give him a private place to be a degenerate.
After the Baylor and Dan Snyder stuff I wouldn't be surprised if they enabled his degeneracy as a "perk".
Because no one believes these instagram/Craigslist masseuses...masseuse.... bruh they were unlicensed and advertising on instagram which equals prostitutes
Wanting a message with a happy ending is being a degenerate?
@@justin-credible did the masseuse consent? Were they trafficked and coerced into the job? If no to either one of those I personally wouldn't call him a degenerate.
@@ohishwaddup Keep pretending like these innocent little angels were naive little virgins not in an industry with RAMPANT prostitution.
Couple of thoughts / curiosities; (1) We know that the Dolphins wanted all the cases settled before they'd give him a contract. Did the Saint's want the same? If so, that explains why (aside from the money) the Browns were the "team" Watson went with because IMO, I can't see him wanting to go to a cold weather team - dudes from GA and played college ball in SC. (2) Did the Texans tell the Browns that they'd given Watson a blank NDA AFTER they'd been told that a woman had reached out to him via IG and threatened to "out" him for his behavior. (3) Did the Texans tell the Browns that they'd given Watson the use of a hotel room? Thing is, the Texans behavior seems to meet the bar for actual and or constructive knowledge regarding Watson's behavior has been met otherwise, why give him an NDA if your the Texans (unless your don't want to keep your franchise QB out of trouble). If the Texans didn't tell the Browns about the NDA, could that meet the bar for bad faith negotiations considering everyone knew what Watson had been accused of. I think the NFL is going to have to step in at this stage and truly look at undoing the contract and considering how long he'll need to sit out.
I bet they knew about his behavior from these women one by one reporting him to the team. but they couldn't get him to stop. So they gave him an nda to give them
Deshaun Watson making his best impersonation of Magic Johnson
The NFLPA has collectively bargained the "personal conduct policy" which IS NOT the same as being convicted in court and basically the NFL can and does legally and rightfully suspend "in the best interest of the league". Whether or not he is guilty of anything is somewhat arbitrary. Can you imagine the public outrage if he isn't given a substantial suspension after 24 accusers come forward with sexual harassment charges? Further, what if they give him 6-8 games and then a year from now a couple more accusers come up? How foolish would the NFL look then? This also makes no mention of the absolutely dumbfounding move of the Browns to give the guy a $230M fully guaranteed contract which NFL owners are furious about or the way he structured his deal to basically not get fined. To me, all signs point to a hammer coming down on Watson - full year suspension with open ended option for NFL to suspend in 2023 as well if they see fit. The only people that benefit from anything less are one team, the Browns, and Watson whose character is so great he jettisoned the Texans mere months after signing a 4 year/$160M contract extension and has 24 sexual assault accusers. There is simply no incentive for the NFL to do anything other than HAMMER Watson and now by extension the Browns. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets suspended all of 2022 and then as things hopefully "wrap up" by next spring he is given a partial season ban in 2023 like 4-6 more games to get some of that huge 2023 salary back.
And yet none of the 24 women went to police first... none of them... that's amazing
I imagine a stadium full of Watson jerseys with nobody but the ppl who think football shouldn’t be played because of concussions having an issue. Nobody who legitimately watches NFL will care that much. And ratings will GO UP with him on the field.
@@zienawim96 you do realize for a grand jury there has to be a police report correct, or do you not actually have any clue what you are talking about.
You do realize I said "none of the 24 women went to the Police FIRST"
They sued deshaun and then went to the police after public backlash
@@zienawim96 so you didn't do any research as some of those women arn't even suing him. It's ok reading is hard these days and it much easier to just jump on the fanboy train it's ok we get it.
Baker went from having no power to a lot of power right now honestly. As a saints fan, I am beyond happy he chose the Browns lol.
I would’ve loved to see Baker healthy for one more year. As a lifelong Browns fan the fun just never stops.
Baker’s gotta be grinning the hardest grin
Cleveland along with a third of the league looked into getting him and 10% of the league went hard after watson. The browns just ended up getting him so it's easy to say "why browns why" but once the courts said no criminal charges every team got excited and looked at it like only a minor punishment 4-8 games. And we still don't know wtf the NFL is gonna do. They are dragging their feet because it keeps the heat off the email scandal and John gruden
I think the NFL is taking its time because what is the rush?
Why not get as much info as you can especially when more ladies keep appearing.
Courts didn't say anything.... Grand jury didn't indict. Big difference.... now it's coming out about possible collusion between the DA's office and Watsons attorney... so...
They’re taking their time because there’s so much more to this story.
Nah its why browns why because they gave him a fully guaranteed deal. The reason the browns got him was because they were willing to guarantee that much money
4 games should be the limit. Anything more should be appealed in light of the fact that: 1) The evidence that the Texans knew what was going on and provided the NDAs to Watson to have the Plaintiffs sign 2) Robert Kraft, a NFL team owner, was criminally charged for solicitation in a massage parlor for which there was video evidence of his crimes, yet he was not even fined by the NFL 3) Big Ben was accused of sexual assault involving force in a night club bathroom while his body guard stood outside of the bathroom door to prevent someone from entering; settled the cases, was originally suspended for 6 games but an arbitrator reduced it to 4; and most important, DeShaun is contesting these claims.
He should never play another down in the NFL…and for the Browns they will get exactly what they deserved for trading for him.
Yet they aren’t charging him under a criminal trial. Only civil which is about money nothing less.
League will veto the outcome of the trade if he's banned for life
Wait for the facts, but your opinion………oh well
@@jack-o-trades304 because by nature of the claims it's hearsay vs hearsay. It's an untriable case. Unless someone got it on video or there was someone else there, he will never get convicted. He's far too famous.
@@RoccoGuyBoiThing famous dont matter. The law only matters.
I just want to know how Pat spelt loquacious? Lol
Good lord 😂 it just keeps getting better and better
Steeler fan here, I got my popcorn in hand 😂
After this phenomenal segment.. well done boys…I’m not going to look for some genuine reaction from Browns fans.. I’d like to know the type of people fully behind Watson and fully supporting
8:16 it's not that elaborate. Texans owner is friends with the lawyer. Lawyer pays off girls to come forward. Girls make claims. Motivation is to show that even star QBs cannot break contracts in the middle of their contracts. Stop playing dumb. The Texans tried to burying him. That's why the Browns signed him. They'll probably be historically correct. This is actually pretty straight forward.
@@journeytothevoid2899 exactly man all these ignorant people always ready to ruin lives
Sounds like baker bout to get 200m
That's The Browns being The Browns and I love it.
Shoutout Dabo and Urban. Just God fearing men mentoring such quality human beings.