10 years ago I mentioned using O2 sensors on these engines and everyone laughed. Next I asked why no one used Piezo sensors to monitor PCP and again everyone laughed... Glad to see someone actually catching up to the reality of engineering and development.
@@centraltexasfoxbodies once in awhile people who are educated in these matters will make beneficial suggestions while the whole time not really having any desire to own anything to do with it. Take the Atomic Bomb for example.
It’s absolutely insane the progress that’s been made in automotive and diesel performance over the last 10 to 15 years. The power figures being achieved are unbelievable, got to love advances in technology.
Please get in touch with Cleetus Mcfarland on CZcams he has a Galaxy with a diesel in it that he drag races, You guys should defiantly do a collaboration with them it would be sick!!!!!!!
Wow! What a beast! On that 3200 hp. run, when they showed the exhaust outside the building, I thought sure that thing was starting to dissolve the exhaust valves in the head (or the pistons). The fire and then the sparks at the top of the pull...😱 Scary shit, considering another Cummins making 2500 or so, unloaded the whole top of the block not too long ago!😮
Can’t deny how awesome this build is. Especially since it’s a single turbo hot rod. I can’t say I’ve ever seen a big single make this kind of steam without being a big truck engine.
@@FirepunkDiesel it's like the first time you beat your dad at basketball....you know its gonna happen one day, you just never expect it to be that day.
I saw this at PRI and talked for a few seconds about it with Drew at the booth. Insane craftsmanship, pure beauty. I don't get to work on stuff like this but I get to line bore some girdled 3406 pull truck motors that are supposed to make that much or more. I have yet to see one run in person though, hopefully this year I'll make it to one.
@@nhraandnascarfanatic5907 I think you're referring to patents and those run out, the Cummins name and likeness would be what is copyright not the design that would be a patent... and for 2 companies have been making reman type blocks for years using the basic design of the Cummins engines AND provided they dont stamp Cummins on it to pass it off as a genuine Cummins block(Which they don't, as they are marketed as either a replacement equivalent or performance block) there's nothing to sue over Even if they were to make a copy Cummins block while the patent was still held by Cummins they would only be required to get permission from Cummins and pay a fee per block made called royalties
Does it have a stock Cummins crank? Not really a Cummins if it contains no Cummins parts anymore. Still fun seeing a built from scratch motor flogged on the dyno!!
It's really hard on the engines when you inject the nitro right at the intake rather than before the intercooler, so if you can do that with that much and it holds your doing something right haha ❤❤
I think these trucks have hit their limit on the roller dyno due to the truck, tires and dyno rollers ability. It would be sick to see you guys put up a BIG record breaking number on a hub dyno. Do it and become legends! 3k horsepower on a chassis dyno! Do it and make sure to give me a shout out at the end of the record video j/k :D
I agree. Hub dynos have been out for a long time now, and with the insane power of most cars and trucks now, I don't know why more people aren't using them. They don't take any longer to set up than strapping down a big power car, and they have zero slip.
@@stopglobalswarming not exactly, I mean, for a shop with a chassis dyno already, it's a bit to absorb just for the sake of it, but they're hardly expensive in the grand scheme. And when chassis dynos are struggling with vehicles making 4 figure power, it seems like the next logical step. 10 years ago we couldn't make 700hp from a junkyard ls and $400 worth of eBay turbos, but here we are.
I'm an idiot so simple questions. Why not a second turbo? Also, isn't the black smoke just fuel not getting burned? Why not tune that out? Wouldnt that help free up cylinder space for fresh air as well?
Bet those cam journals are huge. Fully custom block, the potential is huge. FirePunk told me that they haven’t experimented with bigger cam journals yet. That was at UCC 2019. It’s coming. Production blocks won’t keep up now. Beautiful work done on these blocks, intakes and heads.
Wow, I'm so impressed! Showing the actual results of the dyno test ONCE through the entire video. I'll be sure to watch another one to waste more time that I can't get back.
Looks like you aren't using a intercooler....is the water injection for cooling the charge?...second what's the advantage of billet aluminum apart form weight and precision , in my mind aluminum is soft and would flex/warp compared to cast iron.......or did I miss that video?
Iam not trying to ask a stupid question but how does water help to make power. I've heard about it read about it but I've never understood how it works
I'm broke as hell but I still dream of doing an all Billet everything for my gas engine ... doing all Billet all-wheel drive open transfer with an air or magnetic locker, doing an all Billet front and rear differential setup with normally open differentials with Air or magnetic differential lockers both front and rear. I want to do all that for my daily driver. But I live in Minnesota with crappy roads so it makes sense. LOL. Not really but it is just a dream. If I can get the engine to run normally that would make me happy. 5.3 L V8 with displacement on demand and it has a rod knock so it hasn't run in 2 years. Mistakenly I trusted Walmart to do an oil change on my vehicle. I figured you can't scrap a car too bad with an oil change... But they did. They vacuumed the oil out instead of draining it through the drain plug and that stopped up my oil filter and oil pump ... they record my mileage wrong so there's no possible way that they're going to fix what they fucked up. I drove maybe twelve hundred miles after that oil change before it started knocking so loud it was terrifying. They're trying to tell me I drove more than 12,000 miles on that oil change. Here's a lesson... Don't ever trust Walmart to do even an oil change. They wrecked my vehicle they'll wreck yours they don't care.
I under stand the flame coming from the exhaust just from egt's but what were all the sparks?? Isnt that usually Shrapnel from engine internals or turbo?
What was your total running weight? I agree the patents ran out , it is why you see reproduction heads and blocks . Just like when Holley patents ran out everyone jumped on and built their own. Is this Billet block something you are thinking on producing? Not mass but by order only
Question: what system changes allow these race engine to run all the way up to 7,000 RPM and still produce horsepower? Not just stiffer springs and lighter materials, but what allows the diesel combustion even effectively push the piston at such a high piston feet/second?
Faster fuel delivery (large quantity in a shorter period), and a better flowing head allows the fuel plumes to be introduced to oxygen before combustion occurs, giving a more powerful combustion with less fuel being burned late after TDC
Firepunk Diesel Thanks for the reply! Now is there any reason other than cost that product engines in sedans and such don't employ this? Is there a major efficiency loss due to the high piston velocity?
Has anyone ever made a purely nitrous powered motor? It would also be cool to see someone use the bullet bike engine technology to the automotive market.
From Google... "Nitrous oxide is simply an oxidiser, which provides extra oxygen that allows more fuel to be burned, but even this oxygen isn't available until the nitrous has been broken down into its two elements (oxygen and nitrogen), which requires a temperature of 565 degrees F."
10 years ago I mentioned using O2 sensors on these engines and everyone laughed. Next I asked why no one used Piezo sensors to monitor PCP and again everyone laughed... Glad to see someone actually catching up to the reality of engineering and development.
So why didnt you do it?
Hard to deal with people that don't have an IQ over 130 huh?
@@drd1924 yes it would be hard to deal with yourself.
@@centraltexasfoxbodies once in awhile people who are educated in these matters will make beneficial suggestions while the whole time not really having any desire to own anything to do with it. Take the Atomic Bomb for example.
@@rickcooper2750 then why comment about something you thought about 10 years ago?
It’s absolutely insane the progress that’s been made in automotive and diesel performance over the last 10 to 15 years. The power figures being achieved are unbelievable, got to love advances in technology.
This engine would be sweet in my 98 corolla
😂
Bobby b could probably stuff it into my altima lmao
How bout my miata😳
Amen börther 🙏
i think it’ll fit perfectly on my razor scooter😫
I love the “turn it up and see what happens”. It’s the truth but damn scary to.
How does this channel only have 17k subs? Insane build, you guys are gonna have some fun with that thing
Too see the exhaust outside 8:10
Great video.
I want to know egt’s and cylinder pressure at the 3200 HP mark
All of the EGT's and all cylinder pressures.
At least 3
Egt was visable at about 8:30 if you really looked.
@@philipmacduffie7612 It says -74 so I don't think it was hooked up.
@@erikkovacs3097 bottom right bar graph about 860f
Damn, that's the most stable Dyno I've ever seen. That engine didnt move a bit. Cool engine too though.
Please get in touch with Cleetus Mcfarland on CZcams he has a Galaxy with a diesel in it that he drag races, You guys should defiantly do a collaboration with them it would be sick!!!!!!!
dawsy20069 I second this
Wow! What a beast! On that 3200 hp. run, when they showed the exhaust outside the building, I thought sure that thing was starting to dissolve the exhaust valves in the head (or the pistons). The fire and then the sparks at the top of the pull...😱 Scary shit, considering another Cummins making 2500 or so, unloaded the whole top of the block not too long ago!😮
I just wana know if that dudes fingers was painted white or if that's just a natural thing
Finger tip covers
Lavon and some of his brothers were naturally born with white nails.
Austin Miller false
@@devonwienandt nope its true, they were born with it!
Nice Wrench Works hat! Greg A fan here! 🙂
Can’t deny how awesome this build is. Especially since it’s a single turbo hot rod. I can’t say I’ve ever seen a big single make this kind of steam without being a big truck engine.
Awesome work. Exciting seeing the industry moving forward. 🇺🇸💪
Last time I had this quick of a reaction, I beat Lavon in the finals at the practice tree at the ODSS Banquet.
One day, I'll be as good as you Hooker!
@@FirepunkDiesel it's like the first time you beat your dad at basketball....you know its gonna happen one day, you just never expect it to be that day.
wheelie bars .... the truck this goes in is going to need wheelie bars
8:09 yeah!!!!!
freakin single turbo making 3200.
bruh
Run it a while, see how much it glows.
More turbos = more drive pressure.
I get super nervous any time I see these ultra high performance diesel engines running dyno runs because I just feel like they're about to blow up
I just would love to hear 3200 hp in person for the love of god scotty
Important question: Does it meet or exceed California emissions?
on a stock full size first gen body and frame the power to weight would be 2.5 lbs per horsepower. that's about the same as a 1000cc crotch rocket.
I saw this at PRI and talked for a few seconds about it with Drew at the booth. Insane craftsmanship, pure beauty.
I don't get to work on stuff like this but I get to line bore some girdled 3406 pull truck motors that are supposed to make that much or more. I have yet to see one run in person though, hopefully this year I'll make it to one.
Is there a place you can buy a stock aluminum block to run on the street haven't seen one yet
That’s an ingenious water injection setup. Pretty proof too because you can’t have a bad pump.
Why not a compound turbo setup??
What kind of mpgs could I get with this cruising unloaded at 70MPH??
All of it.
Over 6
MPG? More like GPM?
$500 a mile
Half, I think
Cummins doesn’t build a aluminum motor , soooo might as well put your name on it now before someone else does
Dave Sisco it’s a billet copy man... if anything Cummins can sue them
The block is made by D&J machine, no different than the Freedom Racing blocks or the Hamilton blocks.... noone can sue anyone
R&W Diesel if it adheres to the exact design of a Cummins then shit yes they can sue... a little thing called copyright
@@nhraandnascarfanatic5907 I think you're referring to patents and those run out, the Cummins name and likeness would be what is copyright not the design that would be a patent... and for 2 companies have been making reman type blocks for years using the basic design of the Cummins engines AND provided they dont stamp Cummins on it to pass it off as a genuine Cummins block(Which they don't, as they are marketed as either a replacement equivalent or performance block) there's nothing to sue over
Even if they were to make a copy Cummins block while the patent was still held by Cummins they would only be required to get permission from Cummins and pay a fee per block made called royalties
@@robwalters9695 Wrong! Everyone can sue anyone all the time! 'Merica!
What is the race weight & what does it do in the quarter mile @ 3214HP?
Art. Beautiful, pure art.
Bog deep brother!! That engine is insane and I love watching the R&D videos. Keep up the great work guys!
Id be scared of that dyno... same on where a diesel exploded
Does it have a stock Cummins crank? Not really a Cummins if it contains no Cummins parts anymore. Still fun seeing a built from scratch motor flogged on the dyno!!
It still has 6.7L Cummins bore and bore spacing (to fit some rule requirements in pulling) but it has A Winberg billet crank shaft.
Horsetorques -Greg A.
but will it fit in my honda.
It's really hard on the engines when you inject the nitro right at the intake rather than before the intercooler, so if you can do that with that much and it holds your doing something right haha ❤❤
Need that block in my 05, but not quite 3200hp
What compression ratio are you guys running?
That thing wants to come apart so bad!!! Crazy to think it held
Damn, that things lights up and rips. You've created a monster, sir.
Legit question, how much would something like this cost?
Yall gonna add a couple more chargers?
Maybe a dumb question but... I thought you guys make some of the best transmissions available, why not use your own for this?
My engine is 600 hp with almost 2000 fp tourque and it’s stock! I couldn’t imagine if it was built like this monster!
You really need heavier valve springs I can hear the valves just dancing
I think these trucks have hit their limit on the roller dyno due to the truck, tires and dyno rollers ability. It would be sick to see you guys put up a BIG record breaking number on a hub dyno. Do it and become legends! 3k horsepower on a chassis dyno! Do it and make sure to give me a shout out at the end of the record video j/k :D
I agree. Hub dynos have been out for a long time now, and with the insane power of most cars and trucks now, I don't know why more people aren't using them. They don't take any longer to set up than strapping down a big power car, and they have zero slip.
thethePete they cost a lot
@@stopglobalswarming not exactly, I mean, for a shop with a chassis dyno already, it's a bit to absorb just for the sake of it, but they're hardly expensive in the grand scheme. And when chassis dynos are struggling with vehicles making 4 figure power, it seems like the next logical step. 10 years ago we couldn't make 700hp from a junkyard ls and $400 worth of eBay turbos, but here we are.
I'm an idiot so simple questions. Why not a second turbo? Also, isn't the black smoke just fuel not getting burned? Why not tune that out? Wouldnt that help free up cylinder space for fresh air as well?
Bet those cam journals are huge. Fully custom block, the potential is huge. FirePunk told me that they haven’t experimented with bigger cam journals yet. That was at UCC 2019. It’s coming. Production blocks won’t keep up now. Beautiful work done on these blocks, intakes and heads.
Engine sounds like it’s not even breaking a sweat comepared to say a dj enforcer. Fuckin awesome
Gotta love the Wrench Workz Hat
Could this accept any propane in addition to the Nox and turbo? Would compound turbos gain enough power to offset the extra weight?
@ 2:10 i almost shit myself when i seen the boost pipe start moving....... I thought it was going to blow!
Hah hah! Same...🤣 I was half expecting a repeat of that 2500 hp. Cummins that unloaded the top of the block on the dyno a while back.😱
I was expecting way more torque with that amount of hp
What boost psi was it putting out at 3200 hp?
Wow, I'm so impressed! Showing the actual results of the dyno test ONCE through the entire video. I'll be sure to watch another one to waste more time that I can't get back.
How much does this cost
Any torque numbers? just curious.
Bill Wyko
I think he said around 3,400 lb ft
Great work guys, incredible performance!!))
I wonder why they did not pick a compound turbo setup. Or a turbo feeding a supercharger.
Weight, less weight, requires less horsepower
Looks like you aren't using a intercooler....is the water injection for cooling the charge?...second what's the advantage of billet aluminum apart form weight and precision , in my mind aluminum is soft and would flex/warp compared to cast iron.......or did I miss that video?
Iam not trying to ask a stupid question but how does water help to make power. I've heard about it read about it but I've never understood how it works
The water lowers combustion temperatures as well as reducing pre ignition risk. This allows them to continue pushing the engine for higher power.
how much does the entire motor weight? whats the weight difference between cast and aluminum? amazing work !!!!!
752lb long block, 935lbs with fuel, dry sump oil system, manifold, turbo and turbo plumbing
firepunk diesel is that engine being put into a semi truck or a pickup? that's a badass engine also you should show it installed into the truck
Are you injecting water between block and turbo or into the cylinders?
Size of the exhaust manifold compared to the intake manifold?. It's like half the size.. must be a restriction?.
I have your tow master 47re. What temp are they supposed to run at? Mine gets 230-240 towing.
Как называется краска,которой покрасили блок?
I'm broke as hell but I still dream of doing an all Billet everything for my gas engine ... doing all Billet all-wheel drive open transfer with an air or magnetic locker, doing an all Billet front and rear differential setup with normally open differentials with Air or magnetic differential lockers both front and rear.
I want to do all that for my daily driver. But I live in Minnesota with crappy roads so it makes sense. LOL. Not really but it is just a dream. If I can get the engine to run normally that would make me happy. 5.3 L V8 with displacement on demand and it has a rod knock so it hasn't run in 2 years.
Mistakenly I trusted Walmart to do an oil change on my vehicle. I figured you can't scrap a car too bad with an oil change... But they did. They vacuumed the oil out instead of draining it through the drain plug and that stopped up my oil filter and oil pump ... they record my mileage wrong so there's no possible way that they're going to fix what they fucked up. I drove maybe twelve hundred miles after that oil change before it started knocking so loud it was terrifying. They're trying to tell me I drove more than 12,000 miles on that oil change.
Here's a lesson... Don't ever trust Walmart to do even an oil change. They wrecked my vehicle they'll wreck yours they don't care.
Ok.
Did I miss something or why do you guys dont use a intercooler?
Horsepower is nice and all, but what are the torque numbers?
At 4000rpm we could make over 4000ft lbs, but we're trying to keep it out of peak torque to keep cylinder pressure lower and make parts last longer
@@FirepunkDiesel amazing. Thanks for the reply. Looking forward to watching it run.
He said 3300 in the video... pay attention
Kudos on the HP
I want to know the cylinder pressure
I thought 540 for my street truck was fairly respectable... this bat shit crazy Cummins makes that much in one cylinder 🤔
Nice engine block!
That motor would be quite practical on i68 in Maryland.
Fantastic
I under stand the flame coming from the exhaust just from egt's but what were all the sparks?? Isnt that usually Shrapnel from engine internals or turbo?
It was from soot in the pipe we see it all the time at night at the dyno it has about 8 ft of flex pipe that shakes loose soot.
Ahh that makes sense.
Had me a little concerned.
What was your total running weight? I agree the patents ran out , it is why you see reproduction heads and blocks . Just like when Holley patents ran out everyone jumped on and built their own. Is this Billet block something you are thinking on producing? Not mass but by order only
what is this engine even for though?
Connor K making people cry
@@_ohmz_electric oh, for sure.
nuts how you can get that outa that little motor! holy crap man 🇺🇸🤙🏻
I see Aaron Lewis’ stock went way down. You made him a mechanic??
600%s? Good night lmao
Question: what system changes allow these race engine to run all the way up to 7,000 RPM and still produce horsepower? Not just stiffer springs and lighter materials, but what allows the diesel combustion even effectively push the piston at such a high piston feet/second?
Faster fuel delivery (large quantity in a shorter period), and a better flowing head allows the fuel plumes to be introduced to oxygen before combustion occurs, giving a more powerful combustion with less fuel being burned late after TDC
Firepunk Diesel Thanks for the reply! Now is there any reason other than cost that product engines in sedans and such don't employ this? Is there a major efficiency loss due to the high piston velocity?
Its the cowardly lion 8:44
What is the displacement of this engine (how much ccs) plz reply
What happens when that nitrous bottle runs out of water? Surprise nitrous injection?
Wow that flame stack. Super cool
Props to the guy with the wrench works hat
Firepunk Diesel what kind of engine management system do you use on these engines ?
Bosch 15.1 ECM and Bosch PBX90 powerbox
Cylinder #1 EGT 250 deg....theres either a sensor problem or that cylinder wasnt working well.
Hi are the diesel fuel lines the braided hose?
What was the torque on the engine
I bet this is above 150 psi, thsys incredible for a single turbo, how is it possible thst it dont surge ?
It dose surg when he comes off the throttle too fast. It is minimal.
Has anyone ever made a purely nitrous powered motor? It would also be cool to see someone use the bullet bike engine technology to the automotive market.
You would still need fuel Soo the nitrous could burn it
Nitrous isn’t flammable on its own
@@schmbrt96 Haha I love this misconception. Almost sad what movies have turned it in to...
From Google... "Nitrous oxide is simply an oxidiser, which provides extra oxygen that allows more fuel to be burned, but even this oxygen isn't available until the nitrous has been broken down into its two elements (oxygen and nitrogen), which requires a temperature of 565 degrees F."
Will it blend?
Car guy here dont now much of the diesel world is there race diesel or just pump im just curious
How long ago did Bob leave industrial? How come he left just a personal decision?
June 2019 I believe, and yes, just wanted to be involved with new product development in the industry
Wonder what a billet cummins ling block weighs?
What kind of torque can that Dyno take below 2000 rpm, below 1500 rpm and who makes that Dyno?
idk about this dyno but at my work place we have Power Test dyno 15 000 lb/ft at 4000 and less
QUESTION: Can you deliver a Rolls Royce Merlin of power bellow 750kg with a AL block?
752 long block 932lbs(÷2.2 ≡kg)full dress, was stated in a response.