Super Bowl 58 Postgame: How the Chiefs pulled it off AGAIN
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- The Kansas City Chiefs have done it again, they are the Super Bowl Champions, and Patrick Mahomes is the MVP. Robert Mays and Nate Tice go LIVE from Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas to bring you every nook and cranny of the Chiefs victory, and dive into what could be an interesting offseason for the 49ers.
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It reminds me of a fifteen round championship boxing match.
After ten or eleven rounds of body punches, they finally take their toll late.
Mahomes presence puts so much pressure on the defense all game because you have to expend the effort to protect against of the so many facets of what Mahomes can do to you, that at the end of the game the pressure and the extended extra effort all game exhausts the defense.
Defenses just wilt against Mahomes late in games. Things that they were able to defend all game, but at a cost of extra expended effort, they no longer have gas in the tank to defend at the end of games.
I’m a 49ers fan, and Greenlaw’s injury makes this loss even worse. My heart goes out to him. I’m praying that he will be okay by next season.
I feel that. Charles Omenihu injured the game prior. Just hope those guys are ready close to the start of next year
He hulk smashed McKinnon when he was already down. He can kick rocks
Injuries are a part of the game that's at least partly beyond a team's control. Still, some teams are more top-heavy than others. Some teams are deeper than others. Something I've noticed about the Chiefs is every year, for several years running, they were deeper than the year before. SB LIV was on a shoestring. They have so much better players, now, and so much better depth, but they don't have as much star power.
Hill, Watkins and Hardman were pretty elite in SB LIV. But they didn't have much of an interior offensive line. Now they've got a good interior offensive line, but they don't really have a star-studded WR group.
After this SB, KC still looks like it has room to grow, without losing a whole heck of a lot, if they can lure back some key FAs.
As a lifelong Chiefs I hope the 49ers don’t give up on Purdy. Hes got what it takes to win it all.
It hurt to see him go down especially like that. Hope he recovers quickly and fully
Chiefs had to fight all game, 49ers where a formidable opponent. Was a good game
That was the most accurate postgame I've heard this year. Very well done.
Y'all do a fantastic job, always love listening to your in-depth and passionate dissection. Keep it up!
You two are the best, always my first listen. See you next year!
Wow you guys really are the best at your analysis! Great Job
Great way for this kinda mid season to end
Great show all season long. Thanks Robert and Nate!
Amazing work, like always. You guys are always my first watch. Keep up the great work.
I am not surprised at all by the outcome, SF couldn't put up points when they needed to and honestly were lucky to even be in the SB.
LOL at the guy who kept coming into and out of the background during the show who was randomly scavenging stuff from seats.
You can bet there is lots of clutter in that guys house! Those type never throw anything away and always bring in more.
Great job Nate and Robert.
The Mahomes factor was the difference.
Another great season guys!
I believe it's the first time I put the podcast to play in the youtube and is VERY strange (jn a good way) to see your faces, even already recorded a show with Robert. Another amazing episode and love to see Robert got emotional in the end.
Kyle Shanahan didn’t know the overtime rules and that cost them the game.
I'm gonna get heat for saying this, but I think the reputation of the trio of Reid, Mahomes, and Kelce is so deeply entrenched that we won't even consider this Chiefs defense to be on the same level as the 1985 Bears or 2000 Ravens even though they were statistically pretty similar and dominated nearly every game they played.
They’re the only reason the chiefs won today and in 5 years it’ll be “Mahomes did it with a bunch of accountants” like he’s a Big Ten QB
Because it’s not. Come back to earth. Those defenses were on another level.
Put the whiskey down, b4 your IQ drops below 25!
The 200 Ravens were t even as good as the 85 Bears (and are only 3rd best in franchise history), going by some analytics. Part of that, is from not getting many turnovers.
But, I will say, they’ve had the best Def of any team in the playoffs.
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Truly hard to compare teams of different eras, but anecdotally, no one will be referencing KC’s D in 40 years the way the ‘85 Bears still are. KC’s defense was excellent this year, but those teams of yesteryear gave up almost no points in the playoffs, all games, so I’d leave it at that.
Love
Had a great season guys can’t wait for free agency and the draft 🙏
You Can DOUBT the CHIEFS,
You Can DISLIKE the Chiefs,
You Can DISRESPECT the CHIEFS,
But in the End You're Gonna Have To
DEAL with the B2B SB LVIII CHAMPIONS
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS!
Can we please retire this one? I like Mitch as much as the next guy but its too long
But it's epic
What a game
If you are playing for a third possession possibility, you have to go for it on 4th down inside red zone and then go for two after a TD.
There is no situation where there will be a third possession because Andy Reed will never be playing for a FOURTH possession. He will win or lose going for it on every 4th down and he will go for 2 after any TD.
Know your opponent.
Watching a team you root for lose three straight Super Bowls in brutal ways is emotionally gutting but hope remains eternal.
What you said is accurate this is a league of QB1 and QB2 tiers. If you want to win a SB you need one of those guys.
Great job as always lads.
I'd say the 49ers have won more than their share of superbowls during the Montana and Steve Young years how many was it 5 times between the both of them? Purdy will never be the reason SF ever wins a superbowl he will have to be a game manager that isn't asked to carry the team the way a mahomes has to do game after game in the playoffs. Put mahomes on that talent filled offense of San Fran to go along with its star studded defense and he might not of lost a game all season!
I like Pacheco but they need another RB, draft one this year- with the division and AFC getting better, you need to have a consistent run game and keep your defense top 10
The 49ers need to recognize the need to keep Purdy's pocket clean and invest picks on the O-line. They also need to add a third LB (they're missing Azeez Al-Shaair this year) and a few new corners. Also, Jake Moody sucks.
49ers had the game won in the 4th quarter. They needed 4 yards to win. 4 Yards!! And they had 2 downs to get it. Give it to CMC, get the 4 yards (even if it takes 2 downs) , milk the clock down to 3 seconds, kick the game winning field goal, win the Superbowl. Once they decided to give the ball back to Mahomes with 2 minutes left, they might as well have handed Mahomes the Lombardi 🏆 . Shanahan is a tool.
Why do y’all ignore the fact that the chiefs run defense got better throughout the game? It wasn’t the same as the 6 ypc at the start
Boom, there were other bad defensive play-calls aside from the ones you pointed out. While it was good overall, that's the effing point with Wilks. He thinks that if he mixes them in with overall okay to great plays, it's okay to have some crappy ones & he's _wrong!!!_
The crappy ones allowed the other team to make it on Big Downs. It's as if Wilks is just calling them in some predetermined order & if that means they give up 1st downs on 3rd or 4th, he just can't help it when actually, he _can!_ It's *his decision!*
You got your wish. You won't have Wilks to kick around anymore. At least he won't be the excuse if you don't win it all next year.
@@jim040558When Kyle loses next year he’ll find someone else to blame!
Why did Kyle stop running the ball?
@@bonym371 Because Steve Spagnola stopped the run using different fronts and run blitzes. There's also the Mahmes Effect, where you sense that he's going to score on you and it gets you out of your game plan. Same thing happened in the chiefs previous playoff game with Baltimore.
@@bonym371 Could be true. Andy is an all-time great coach. He's made an awful lot of great coaches look less than.We ascribe it to the the team playing well, but it's him and Patrick often. The Chiefs shouldn't have been in the Super Bowl this year based on the regular season's games. Andy's pretty good.
Great analysis! Makes me hopeful someone will beat Reid and Mahomes one day
Why not just appreciate greatness? This was their weakest year
Was Reid or Nagy calling plays? (Just got off work)
Reid calls the plays. He'll take input, but Reid calls all plays.
They scored more points than the 49ers.
There, i saved you 46minutes.
That is the bottom line of all competitive sports.
The Chiefs had injuries too stop all that bs!😂😂😂
Thee chiefs had MORE injuries at start of the game
I don’t think Shanahan’s OT theory makes any sense. You want to go first because you get first possession of sudden death after both teams trade TDs? No! Go second and go for 2.
Anything to keep Shanahan from taking heat
Nah, the real reason was to give his defense rest. They just went through a long, grueling drive. Give them a chance to rest and make a stop imo.
Shannahan didn’t prepare the team for overtime. Meanwhile the Chiefs had prepared. So much for Kyle, the see called genius!
What if kickoff team onside kicks and recovers?
@@marks984this is a fascinating thought. If the kicking team who recovered could then win with any score, you’d be incentivized to always onside to open OT. Worst case you give the other team a short field, but you still get the ball back no matter what.
I listened to you two ramble on for 32 minutes and enjoyed your show until you said Shanahan receiving fist in OT was a 50-50 proposition. That decision cost SF the game.
As a Bengals fan, we have a winning record against Mahommes. Feels good!
But Zero superbowls. Needless to say, the Bengals need to get off to a good start next season.
3-3 is a winning record?
Bengals fans just as delusional as bears fans
That’s sad
Always have a delusional Bengals fan in the mix! 😂
Sorry bit Andy reid has won with multiple lesser qbs. Maybe not superbowls but he went to the NFC conference championship game with McNabb how many times? 5. McNabb looked horrible as soon as he lost Andy when Donavon went to Washington. How many conference championship games has billicheat made it to w/o Brady? 0 that's how many. Reid has proven he can win with or w/o mahomes. Billicheat can't win w/o Brady that's been proven before and now after Brady. Reid is a far better coach than billicheat and he doesn't have to cheat like billicheat either. Just wonder how much cheating billicheat has gotten away with. I imagine spygate was just the tip of the iceberg we will never know the full extent of his cheating ways!
Agree along with Shady Brady!
Kyle Shanahan is a all time great Xs & Os coach. And it seems like a great leader of men coach. But his "analytics" game, meaning his ability to use math and game theory for in-game decisions, is not top of the league. With that edge missing it's going to be hard to rise to the best in the league.
DVOA is clearly insanely flawed if the Chiefs had the hardest ever path to a Super Bowl win
Ok, well don't leave us hanging. Name every team that had a tougher path please...
They had a damn tough path man. You think it was easy?
😂
@@oroceo50I apparently can’t by math, but by math the ravens are like the 6th best NFL team ever on both sides of the ball and I’m not sure anyone would say they’re the 6th best team of all time
@@poorbob1122very easy! The 9ers lose to the Packers if the refs spot a ball correctly in the 1st quarter of that game. The math also has the ravens as the 6th best team ever on both sides of the ball, and you’d never say this ravens team was that good
Was a really boring game. Two tough teams, but people saying mahomes is the best quarterback ever is really just a die hard chiefs fan looking for more attention. If mahomes can go on and win more Superbowls than Brady I will say that, but until then swiftits. Calm down
Even Teddy Bruski said Brady did very little in early SB's plus all the chronic cheating,Mahomes is already the greatest QB i ever saw,Montana second.Plus even Cheating Shady Brady went 10 yrs without a SB win
@@davidsoria7701 Brady comeback at Superbowl LI was the most impressive comeback in Superbowl history and the first Superbowl game to be decided in overtime. Falcons 28 to Brady's 3 . Made a comeback to tie the game and then winning it in overtime was more impressive than any of mahomes Superbowl performances including his overtime win at this year's Superbowl.
@@davidsoria7701 And don't forget Superbowl LV Buccaneers vs chiefs. Brady smoked Mahomes 31 to 9.
People pay good money to listen to or read this crap? 20 minutes in and they haven't said anything remotely interesting.
Im bored and will be sad if this keeps happening
Enough Chiefs
Makes the NFL less fun :/
“You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”
Silly, they earned it.
You’re bored of Mahomes talk. Chiefs D won the last 2 super bowls but no one will talk about that unit
Best to just embrace the sadness.
PLM 15 is just getting started.
@@oroceo50 Well, that's what Brady did, cheating other better QBs out of victories. But he's so much prettier than those guys no one cared.
Imagine being Andrew Luck, giving yourself possibly life-long injuries trying to be what the NFL wants you to be, only to watch them hand a victory to a Known Cheater after getting caught cheating in a playoff game.
I'll always think this was a factor in deciding to retire early. I mean, "wtf am I trying _FOR_ if they're just gonna take a ginormous dump on me for it?"
For an1 who says stats are just meaningless data, here’s proof you’re wrong.
Pre-game, DVOA showed they were pretty equal, when you compared both offenses & defenses, but KC had a slight advantage on special teams.
The missed xtra pt made a diff, in how each team called plays. Then, the muffed punt put KC ahead, which took SF out of thinking ‘control the clock’ mode, & needing to score
Still quite meaningless. It's one game where a million things could happen. Statistically speaking, it's just irrelevant to base anything on a one game data set.
Dvoa also said the ravens had a top five team of all time when we all knew that was bs
San Fran had stars out the ass compared to the chiefs. No way were they equal! It was determined that the chiefs postseason run was the hardest any team ever had to win it all.