Fitting the NEW Wunderlich Toolbox to a BMW R1250GS Adventure
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- čas přidán 3. 08. 2024
- 00:00 Intro
02:32 Unboxing - The Box
07:58 Unboxing - The Bracket
12:29 Unboxing - The Tool Bag
15:33 Coding the lock
25:53 Fitting to the bike
31:41 Outro and Stills
Welcome back everyone
Been sent this toolbox by Nippy Normans to fit to my BMW R1250GS Adventure. I'm looking forward to the 4.5 litre size versus my current 2.25 litre Bumot one and to having a tailor-fitted tool bag to go with it using all it's cavernous space!
Here is a link to the two box versions and the fitted tool bag on the Nippy Norman Site
Code-able lock Toolbox (uses BMW key): tinyurl.com/279bwk3p
Toolbox with 2 keys: tinyurl.com/4axyz6vm
Tool bag to fit above two boxes: tinyurl.com/2mp5jc2r
All comments are welcome and I try to answer them all, a thumbs-up if you liked the video helps and if you wanted to subscribe, it'd be great to have you along
Ride safe and stay safe
Nick
Below are various links to kit I use or items referenced in this video.
These are amazon.co.uk (United Kingdom) links and clicking through and purchasing does earn me a small commission and costs you nothing extra.
I'd be really grateful if you are buying any of these if you used the links and help support the channel.
Thank you
Nick
Accessories on (or used for) My BMW R1250GS Adventure
Horn
Denali Soundbomb Horn - amzn.to/3fnTd0B
Lights
Denali D4 (single unit - Ideal if fitting CanSmart Unit) - amzn.to/2TQJKra
Denali D4 KIT (pair of lights with loom - Ideal if fitting with EzyCan or normal cabling) - amzn.to/2WKYQQ5
Battery Charger (Dual Standard Connect and Canbus - Fits Din Socket to charge)
Optimate 4 - BMW Canbus Edition - amzn.to/3rORg2r
Protection
ACF50 Rust Protector (with buddy bottle, aerosols are poor) - amzn.to/2NKL5tJ
Compressor
Airman Compact Compressor - amzn.to/3fm3WZj
Clothing I wear
Waterproof Jacket (Over Rukka Textile)
Tucano Urbano Nano Rain Jackket - amzn.to/3jhxPLP
Waterproof Trousers (Over Rukka Textile)
Tucano Urbano Nano Rain Trousers - amzn.to/3C6k8b3
Equipment I use to film videos
Main Helmet Camera
Go Pro Hero 8 Black - amzn.to/3C6k8b3
Mirror Mounted (rear-facing) Camera
GoPro Hero 7 Black - amzn.to/2Vcuw0h
Fixed Front and Rear Cameras (supplementary footage)
Innovv K3 Dual Camera Kit - amzn.to/3folILM
Adapter needed to add supplimentary mics to GoPro Hero 5/6/7/8
GoPro Microphone Adapter - amzn.to/378aSU8
GoPro Media Mod - Now used on main camera
amzn.to/2Vicbie
Case for mounting GoPro and Mic Adapter
Ulanzi Multi-purpose GoPro Case - amzn.to/32JIkgA
BOTH MICS below have leads for Mobile Phone (to use GoPro Adapter with these you need a TRS to TRRS Adapter)
Rode Phone Accessory (TRS to TRRS Adapter) - amzn.to/2CHKJh1
Helmet Microphone (needs GoPro Adapter) and Tie-pin mic Indoors
Aufgeld Lavalier Microphone - amzn.to/375WVpX
Indoor Microphone (GoPro and Phone Cameras)
Rode Micro Compact - amzn.to/2KlXUZn - Auta a dopravní prostředky
IMPORTANT: Since the making of this video, Wunderlich now advise removal of the Splashguard from the rear of the GSA. This is because the toolbox can contact the guard. I used this for about 6,000km+ without issue but this was road use with suspension on auto. Certainly if you are using the suspension on Minimum and likely to be pushing it to the limit (say off-road) or have a lowered bike you should take extra notice of this warning
Thanks for the extra info, do you think the box could touch the Splashguard with the passenger on and the suspension on auto?
I also can't understand if it could touch the Splashguard itself or its support...
Thanks again for the helpful video!
@@argalord it is the support it hits. In my experience I’m. It sure what the splash guard does anyhow. I shouldn’t answer the likelihood with passenger as I don’t know. Sorry 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK When did they make this advisement? Because I have the toolbox since November 2021 But only recently I started doing offroad and actually broke the splashguard from the top two attachment points... it's only held by the bottom one. 😢
@DikiciMotovlog pretty soon after it was launched it became part of the instructions, but wasn’t in mine. I successfully rode 12k kms without issue with suspension on auto, some with pillion. It seems it was only off road with different damping settings and riding modes
@@nickhodgeUK I understand, thank you for your swift reply!
Nick, Just got round to watching this presentation. Your clarity and attention to detail are second to none. Thank You for taking the time and effort, it's really appreciated.
Thanks Martin 👍🏻
Hey Nick, another great Video on the Wunderlich toolbox keyed for the GS/A. Just to let you know in case anybody was interested. The springs that come in with striker plate are of a heavier gauge (compression ) than the 1 to 3 keyed springs. I noted that there was 2 heavier duty springs within the bag of the striker plate whereas the other springs we're with the 1 - 3 code pegs. The reason that I say this as I used one of the heavier springs by mistake when keying up the lock and like you in the video i found that the key was indeed, difficult to remove/insert. having removed the offending spring and replacing with the correct one, all was good. I know it doesn't give you much info on the documentation. Hope this may be helpful to all your followers. Many thanks Pete Harvey
Thanks Peter for correcting the record. I’ll take a look at mine 👍🏻
I know is over a year ago, but thanks Pete, it was exactly that, I got the springs wrong. Perfectly smooth now.
Great video Nick. This is the best lock assembly tutorial I have seen on you tube. Please publish as a separate video. I’m inspired to try and do my top box lock again. Thanks.
Thanks Ivor. Is it the BMW box or Givi or something that you want to get keyed alike??
@@nickhodgeUK BMW top box. Did try it before but never managed to do it.
Thank you for your video! I have just spent the afternoon in my garage doing a bit of head scratching with a tape measure to check if the mudguard/waterguard that bolts to the swing arm would actually come into contact with the tool box (22 reg gsa1250). After reading the Wunderlich small print I was concerned I had bought the wrong box! When I saw you mudguard in situ I actually wiped the sweat from my forehead. Thanks again for a very informative and reassuring video
Hi Rob. They added the warning after I had filmed it so I guess there is a small chance of an issue. I rode for weeks with no issue at all. Maybe if you have suspension on ‘min’ and off-road I guess it may but no issue here 👍🏻
Coding the keys was explained very well. Good video.
Thanks Danny. I hoped for that as it can be tricky 👍🏻
Most complete and succinct video ever. Thanks
Hi Doug thanks. It’s a balance between complete and too long. I always struggle with that but the key coding lengthened this one and that’s a difficult thing to explain quickly 👍🏻
As usual, great didactic video. Very well done Nick!!!
Thanks Eric and good word (didactic) 🤣👍🏻
No open questions! Wonderful presentation, thank you!
Would close the unused mounting holes on the oposite site with a short screw or some sort of plastic plug so that it doesn't get clogged up with dirt.
You indeed could but they are non-ferrous so won’t corrode 👍🏻
Good day Nick!
You haven’t made any posts in a while.
I remember vividly, following your instructions for the installation of the Denali lights as well as the step-by-step description of how to remove the fairings.
Anyways, I hope all’s well…
We (I) know you for your immense attention to detail and on that note, we expect to see more from you.
Thanks for everything 🙏🏽
Ogye such a lovely comment thank you and glad it all helped. I’ve posted my first video in a while this very evening. Ride safe 👍🏻
I’ll go and watch it as soon as I’m done with my current chore. Remain safe 🙏🏽
@@nickhodgeUK I’m currently watching the new video. I’ll respond to your observations afterwards
Nicely done, Nick. Excellent video which will make fitting mine easier. Thanks. 👍
Thanks Dave. If you’ve the codeable one then hopefully I’ve helped there as the Wunderlich ‘mime artist’ video may leave a bit to be desired? 🤣👍🏻
Excellent video nick, very easy to follow and informative. Found this a great help. 🏍🏍
Cheers Andrew. Glad you liked it and found it useful 👍🏻
Fantastic video Nick, thank you. Learning such a lot from your content. I am new to GS family, will be picking up my new GSA from dealer within next couple weeks, so excited. All the best.
Be excited John. Be very excited. 1,000’s of miles await. Ride safe 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK cheers mate, have a great weekend 👍🏻
Thank you again for your very detailed review. Thank you Sir.
Cheers Glenn. Glad you liked it 👍🏻
Really helpful thanks
Great video, I just fitted the box same bike as you but I have Lonerider panniers with the same latch as Bumot, I had to adjust one of the side blocks to fit correctly but fits great now. Keep up the great vids.
Thanks for the comment. It’s sureva useful addition for me anyhow
Nick,
Back in the day every bike had a toolbox properly integrated into the frame! What I need is a toolbox for use with the vario panniers.
TTFN
Nick
It’s not a great solution but I had mine Velcro’d into the back of the right one as it has a void above the exhaust that’s not allowed for in the liner bags so you lose nothing. It’s inky a tool roll size but ok for a few bits, zip ties and a roll of tape 🤣👍🏻
Nick, thanks for the great video. My wife says every time I watch your videos; she hears a cash register sound! 🤣
Hi William. Thanks for watching. Remember this video May get you home to the wife on time if you need roadside maintenance. So it’s a service really 🤣🤣 Ride safe 👍🏻
Miss your content Nick! Hope you are well, and riding a ton! Cheers fro Canada!
Hi I’m still here although lacking content. Just back from a week and 2,100 miles in Germany and France so maybe see if I can mash something up. Thanks for watching though 👍🏻
hmmmm... I have owned BMW bikes for more than 30 years, riding a R1250 GSA these days. Fogive my ignorance, THis is the first time I have ever heard of Nippy Normans. That being said, great video covering all the details. Thanks,
In a way that’s good to know 🤣. Glad you liked the vid though and ride safe 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK may be it's more on UK side, I am in USA.
@@laddiegill ah that would explain it for sure 👍🏻
Hi Nick. Waiting for mine to arrive from NN, so your timing is impeccable 👍 I believe, from Wunderlich’s description, the bracket is powder-coated stainless steel rather than aluminium.
I think you may be right. Sometimes I ‘trip’ during waffle. The bracket shown on the NN site are different and I think pre-production so the video should help 👍🏻
I fitted this toolbox a few weeks ago after watching this vid.
The rear spray guard has to be removed!
I've just smashed mine of my new 1250gsa!
Hi Paul. They’ve added this to the instructions relatively recently I understand. I’m not sure the conditions of yours but I’ve ridden 3,000 road miles with mine (UK, France, Andorra, Spain) and had no issue. It must be right at the end of the suspensions travel that it can touch?
perfect presentation . am always happy to see your stunning bike . and you offcourse .🏍️
Thanks for the comment as always 👍🏻
I had a spare key cut nick by bmw when I purchased the bike just makes things easier for seat lock and sat nav lock 😁
Hi Jim. Just a blank without the electronics? There’s a guy down the road who says he can straighten it so just time but good idea if you have a ‘plain’ one for non-tech purposes 👍🏻
Looking forward to getting this box.
Doug. Be aware if used off-road or with suspension on minimum you will be advised now to remove the GS splash guard to avoid possible contact
@@nickhodgeUK I noticed that in the description of the box on Wunderlich site but didn’t see it in your video so thanks for the warning. There are a lot of boxes out there but the ability to use the BMW key is what’s driving me to this one.
The Touratech one (BMW) is also now advising. The rear suspension has a lot of travel but it takes a lot to bottom it out. I’m on auto and normally single rider and it’s been fine. The other thing is I’m not sure the splash guard does anything anyhow!! 👍🏻
Great install Nick. Looks like a better than the Touratech knock-off I fitted, but they're all expensive Tupperware IMHO. Ride safe mate and keep smashing the tour videos; they're keeping me sane here in Melbourne lockdown. Cheers, Nick TBB
Thanks. I actually didn’t think it was too bad for the code-able lock version although I agree it’s an injection moulding and stamped plate. I love the size though after my Bumot. Whether I get on with the bag or not is debatable as I my put my airman pump in there. I forget you’re locked down now. The vaccine has done a job here and although we have high case rates we are needing to live with it as it isn’t going away and there’s so many of us crammed on this small island!!! UK tour from 11th for a week so see if I can make anything from that. Keep smiling 👍🏻
Thank you! This was quite helpful
Hi Jim. I’ve had no trouble but some tell me due to the depth of this box and most of its size there is a danger if you are really working the suspension (off road) that these can contact the rear splash guard so just be aware 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Agreed. I'll remove that when I ride the Mid-Atlantic BDR in June. Doesn't look hard to swap on and off. Note that locking the door for the 1st time was quite the challenge. I was worried that I would break something. Glad I had a sturdy key.
@@jimfoster9155 spray it with WD40 it’ll free but I agree it’s stiff. Ride safe👍🏻
Hi Nick! Great video! I just got my shipment notification from Wunderlich USA . I placed my order last January. I should have the box and bag by next week. I’m curious to see if they sent the same bracket in this video. I’ve noticed that they have pictures of three different versions or prototypes. Anyways, I’m excited to replace my Touratech one with it. The bag and coded key options got me to bring my wallet (BMW). Thanks again for sharing! 🍺😎👍
Yes I questioned the different bracket I had but think mine is the production one. It’s a fine box and very large. The bag is a great addition 👍🏻
As always Nick a great video well done 👍👍
Thank you Dale. Have you tickets to watch the ‘UK bow’ at Silverstone this weekend? 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK what’s the Uk bo ? I’m going for the Sunday MotoGP with a friend ( usually go all weekend but he’s been un well so just going for the day ) 👍
@@dalehawkes1698 ‘bow’. Rossi?
@@nickhodgeUK yes definitely wee haven’t missed one for over 20 years I’ve got a weekend tickets but looks like we are only going Sunday 😞may ride up for qualifying Saturday as well if I can get off work ,are you going ??
@@dalehawkes1698 no although I’ll watch it on TV. Football is my stadium sport
Nick, great video. Will be useful for when I can't sleep....... :)
Glad to be of use 👍🏻
Thanks for the video Nick. Noticing your number plate at the end of the footage; just to let you know I've just purchased a sticker (cost £1.59) from Amazon that is a Union Flag over UK to cover the EU and GB symbols. The regulation for the required UnionFlag/UK display comes into effect on 28 September if you're touring in Europe. You may already be aware of this. Cheers and ride safe, Andy.
Didn’t know that. I was hoping to get to France too before it gets too cold 👍🏻
That looks nice Nick. Ive got the Lone-Rider semi rigid panniers, I’d be interested to find out if they fit with that box.
Hi Michael. The key is whether the base plate holding the lone riders either sit slightly off the rack or will flex enough. The Bumot panniers flex enough although they do sit flat on the rack 👍🏻
Hi Nick ,Great video and you have made up my mind on which box to buy . One question ,i have the Airman pump Tour will this fit okay
Yep my airman fits in for sure
Great video, your didactic skills are top notch. Unfortunately I’ve got SW Motech panniers and no proper toolbox seems to fit on the rack. Not that I do not like my panniers 😄
Glad you liked the video though. Surprised Motech don’t do a toolbox for their rack 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK They do some sort of tool’pipe’ but it’s small and you can’t lock it with a key.
That’s poor. There are some clever people about though. Get on you like and someone will be able to make some stainless or aluminium brackets 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Been thinking that myself 😊 Thanks!
Hi Nick, Wonderful video and love your channel! I am a late comer as you can see. I have a 23' GSA and am considering going the Wunderlich way, as there are no other players in the market that can do this much all-round job. After your an year plus use - any updates - positive or negative for potential riders like me. BTW, someone below asked about the offset of the LoneRider side panniers - I just checked and they do have this black Delrin pads that would provide the necessary gaps for the 'pipe clamps' to remain clear. So, in my opinion they should be fine. Thanks.
Hi Anil. I had no problem with mine but since the video Wunderlich suggest removing the splash guard as it can contact it. I rode for over 8,000km without issue but I expect if you do a lot of off-road riding with minimum suspension pre-load it may contact. So you’ll just need to evaluate if that’s you 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Thank you Nick! and very much appreciate your swift reply. I am not yet an off-road rider - but have some desire to explore non-paved roads. Will certainly monitor the rear suspension travel and alter the mounts as necessary. Your multi country > 2000 km trips are certainly on my bucket list goals. In the US though we have limited borders to cross - but is a huge country and am looking forward to explore it as much as possible. Like the rest of the viewers - I will be with you - enjoying vicariously all the highs and lows of your journey! Please keep at it! Cheers!
Hi Nick, great video enjoy your info drops on BMW add on etc.- Just got one of these from Nippy Normans. Did you have to remove the rear wheel splash guard following installation or have you found there is enough clearance when the bike is loaded. Cheers
I never removed mine and travelled 2300 miles around the Pyrenees with it on. I also met a channel subscriber at North Oxford Garages last week and he’s had no trouble. I make note however this was loaded with luggage, no pillion and on roads not off-road. I also generally have suspension on ‘auto’. Never ‘min’. I notice now that all these ‘deep’ ones say the same including Touratech who make the BMW cases 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Thanks Nick. Luggage and setting for me the same so this is really good to know thanks
Nice video and interesting product also. What does it say in regards to the rear mudguard? Some boxes need it to be removed to clear the full movement of the wheel. I can't see it mentioned on the website.
Hi Magnus. I checked as much as I could bounce it and everything clears. I’ve also ridden over 500 miles in the week since I fitted it and all is good. Standard bike with Mudsling and Bridgestone Battlax Adventure A41 tyre (standard) 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Thanks! I have just got myself a 2021 GSA ready to spend too much money on. This will likely be on the list.
Where have you gone, miss you mate.
Thanks. Still here. Just winter, a touch of covid and lack of space to fit much more holding me back. There’ll be something soon I’m sure 👍🏻
Great video, very thorough and informative as always. However, there's one thing that caught my eye. it looks like you have mounted the plate differently than pictured on the item page on NippyNormans. in their picture the plate and the brackets are reversed making for a cleaner finish. Was this to aid fitment of the Bumots or?
Hi Jon. No if you look carefully the bracket is different (maybe pre-production?) as it also only has 3 screw holes for the box to affix to the plate. In theory you are correct but the production plate is different. I questioned it with them too 🤣👍🏻
Yes, I noticed the plate was a different design. In your fitment, it looks like the box is mounted a centimeter or more closer to the wheel. I assume the clearance to the tyre is still ok under full compression?
@@jongeoffrey5544 yes all good. I tried in on min preload and also rode it for a few days in Wales and no issue. I alsways point out though I have Bridgestone Battlax Adventure A41 (standard tyres) in case anyone has issues as I think there’s maybe only about a centimetre clearance
Nice bit of kit Nick, but very very expensive!!
Hi Matt. It’s top end for sure but the size is far more useable than my £100 Bumot one for sure 👍🏻
Nick hi, i recently saw a video of your introducing the Bumot side cases. You also presented the GIVI 58l outback top-box in the same video. Question: can you open the Bumot cases freely when you have the huge GIVI top-box mounted on the bike? And what about weight distribution? I guess you would only use the top-box for the helmets. fully loaded it would be too heavy. Or what are your experiences with it?
Hi Thomas. No the side cases won’t open with the Givi box on but it’s marginal. About 5mm!!! 2 choices. Raise the top box about 10mm on spacers or tip the cases (unlock and hinge on bottom mount). That Givi box is huge though a d I’ve not yet used it! 👍🏻
Nick another informative video. I know you had a 1200GS with Vario panniers previously, that’s my set-up, do you know of a toolbox that works with Vario panniers, obviously that set-up means you don’t have the pannier frames to which a box can be mounted. I’d appreciate your knowledge on this.
Hi Nigel. Unfortunately not. What I did was got a small tool roll and in the exhaust side pannier there’s a cavity at the back that bags don’t fill. I got some high quality 3M Velcro and after wiping the pannier with spirit to remove grease and plastic sheen applied one side to that and the other to the tool roll. Certainly allowed a reasonable tool kit 👍🏻
Good suggestion, thanks Nick.
Hi Nick, brilliant video, I've subscribed and bought a few other things due to your channel. Watching this gave me the confidence I needed to buy the box I really wanted (with the codeable lock). One question if I may; I have a 1250 GSA too, did you remove the rear OEM BMW splash guard? By splash guard, I assume the instructions and blurb on NN website are referring to the rear wheel hugger/mud flap with GS written on it. It looks like it could catch, if the suspension really compressed, have you found that?
Hi. This was added after the video but I rode over 6,000 miles after with no issue. Yes they are referring to the piece you describe but I suspect it would only contact if extreme cases (min suspension and off-road maybe). Certainly I had no issues 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Thanks for the reply! Everything I was reading about keeping it and removing it was from US Forum users, so to hear your feedback has helped me with my decision to keep it on! Thank you! Keep up the great work with the channel! After watching your other videos, I am now beginning to come round on the idea of the K1600! Perhaps my next second bike!
Also, did you sort out the clearance with the Bumot panniers? I have Bumot soft panniers that use the same mounting system.
I never changed the mounting. But still use the Bumot and toolbox. It’s a tight fit but it works
Thanks for this video Nick. As an engineer by background, your structured and fastidious approach to sharing experience and views resonates well with me! You should take some comfort that as a result of your content, I yesterday went to my BMW dealer and ordered an R1250 GS Adventure, which in my market has all the bells and whistles as a ‘standard’ order. It should be here in about two weeks as the model and spec I wanted was already on its way for the showroom! I can’t tell you how excited I am as this is an upgrade from my existing XR to coincide with much more touring. I had a question on this Wunderlich toolbox installation….on the website, it mentions only being able to be installed with removal of the original splash guard - did you have to remove this to install yours? Also, as it is comparable to the Touratech box in price, do you have any views as to whether one is superior to the other? Many thanks, keep the content coming and ride safe!
Hi Gordon. No I didn’t need to remove anything. Bear in mind mines a 2020 bike but I don’t think the 2021 machine is different in that regard. I’ve never had the Touratech box but the quality of this one is very good and it’s 1/2 litre bigger too. Enjoy your new bike. For long distance work it is so accomplished. Just back from 2,500 miles to the Pyrenees and back for the last week. Everything like clockwork!! Ride safe 👍🏻
I like the codeable key of the Wunderlich so expect I shall go that route. Glad you had a great trip to the Pyrenees. I’m currently going through your thought process on luggage etc but have the benefit of your insights ahead of any purchase. Stay well 👍🏼
Just on that point Gordon. The Bumot luggage and Wunderlich toolbox are a squeeze. The BMW side cases (Touratech) sit off the frame by about 5mm. The Bumot ones fit flush so the brackets of the Wunderlich toolbox make it an interference fit. It works but is quite a push. The Bumot toolbox attaches to the cross-members of the pannier frame because of this. Just so you’re aware 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Hi Nick, going back to the question of removing the splash guard. It's clear that it wasn't necessary to remove it in order to install the Toolbox. But Wunderlich clearly say on their site "Fits only with original case holders and BMW aluminium cases, without original splash guard", so could it be because of the risk of the splash guard touching/hitting the toolbox under heavy rear suspension compression? Can you please comment?
Hi Ventsislav. I’m not sure what splash guard you refer too. Without question the BMW (Touratech) panniers sit a few mm off the mounting frame, touching only at a few points. This allows the ‘pipe’ brackets supplied with the toolbox some clearance. The Bumot boxes fit all around the frame so it is more of an interference fit for sure 👍🏻
Thank you very much for the video, after using this box for a while, what can you say about it? greetings from spain
I don’t have that bike now but Wunderlich added a warning that you should remove rear splash guard as it can contact that. I did 6,000km with it on with no issue so I expect it would maybe be an issue with suspension on minimum and off-road. Good box but if you work your suspension hard maybe something smaller?? 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK thanks a lot for the info ,, regards
@@nickhodgeUK Thank you very much for the information, I like this box but I think I'll keep looking, a smaller one would be better, I also think to avoid problems with the suspension, thanks, regards
Hi Nick, I think I have missed something. I saw your video on new Bumot panniers and top box unboxing and you also bought their toolbox? You refer to it in this video. Did you do a video of the actual fitting of the Bumot panniers and toolbox? I haven’t seen it in the CZcams list.
Hi Eric. Certainly not separately although the Bumot panniers sit on the standard frames so it’s drop the bottom on the frame, tilt them up upright and shut and lock the catch so there’s no real fitting as such. The toolbox again has a couple of u-brackets so pretty easy really. The top box has a plate but again, no gotchas. Never really saw it as a technical fit I guess. Sorry 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK thanks Nick.
Without the pannier on, looks like it could be nicked by unscrewing a couple of bolts?
Steve. So can anything can’t it! 🤣
Hi Nick, yet another excellent video. My Bumot suite of Panniers, Top Box and fitted inside bags are going strong. That said the Bumot Tool box is pretty well useless, its far two small even for the tool roll that Bumot supplies and I bought. Then to make matters worse the 'mickey mouse' lock to which you referred on your Bumot video broke after less than half a dozen uses. Thankfully the lock broke and fell out of its housing as I was opening it and not when on the move losing the lid into the spokes and or losing the contents of the box. Bumot have insisted on replacing the lid and lock, which frankly I won't be using. Anything that breaks like this and could have me off the bike or jettison tools gets consigned to the bin. The Wunderlich box looks to be a high quality item with a robust lock, any issues with it and any issues with the fitting of the Bumot Panniers alongside it?
The Wunderlich toolbox is certainly good and cavernous at 4.5L it’s huge. The only issue is that the Bumot panniers fit tight to the rack all around. If you look at BMW cases (Touratech) you’ll notice they sit proud in most places. This allows toolboxes to attach with ‘u’ clamps. As Wunderlich. So it’s a tight push. I’m concerned it may ‘pop’ the top mount of the Bumot. I’m exploring two options 1) brackets for the Wunderlich to use same mounting points as Bumot. 2) small panel ‘knocks’ in the RH Bumot case to allow clamps room. I had it attached for 2,500 miles around France and Spain with no issue but I was concerned of the top mount so never removed panniers. (I often do to use as a seat at food stops 🤣) I’d love to find a happy solution as I love my Bumots and the Wunderlich toolbox 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Funny enough I'm off to Spain in 3 weeks :-) Thanks for the heads up regarding the brackets. I'll take a closer look. The Bumot tool box has to go, its next to useless size wise and I simply do not trust the very poor quality lock. Let us know if you find a solution to the bracket issue. Stay safe and well. Regards, Tony
Hi Nick… very good video. Had you considered the Bumot or Cymarc tool boxes and if so, why did you not purchase one of those.
I have the Bumot one and actually back with that now after downscaling my kit with tools I’ve actually used. Only means my airman pump has to go in a pannier or top box. Although I don’t use my suspension hard they are abiding with many (not just this one), to remove the rear ‘splash guard’ (with GS on) as this can contact these deeper ones. As I say rode France, Andorra and Spain with this without issue (2,400 miles) but happy with the shorter Bumot 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Ah right, so the Bumot is better because safer perhaps.
I think it is and whilst it’s nice to have tools and pump all in one place, with careful packing you can do two weeks in too box and panniers with all the other paraphernalia
Hi Nick,
From an earlier post about Top Boxes, how did you go with fitment for the Givi 58lt Topbox.
Were you able to open the Bumont Panier lids either side?
I couldn't find any info from your posts at all on it.
Thanks.
Good morning. They don’t open by a few millimetres. You have two choices. Unlock the Bumot and just tip it off it’s top mount to open or raise the plate for the Givi with washers/spacers by the few millimetres to give you the clearance 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Thanks Nick. Hope you have a good day, its night here in Australia.
The link doesn't work any more, but I was looking at this on the Wunderlich site. But, it clearly states - "Does not fit with original splash guard, this must be removed." From your video, it looks like you still have the original stash guard (mud guard) installed. Any issues??
Hi Paul. Yes they are now warning that (after the video post). I no longer have that bike but I travelled 2,100 miles around The Pyrenees with it on without incident. I think if the suspension were to be on ‘min’ and used say off-road then there’s a chance. I tried getting two men to bounce the back of mine but it wasn’t near. The same apparently applies to the Touratech now too. Best be cautious but I had no issue 👍🏻
HI, I have a 2022 GSA low frame bike. On NN website it states DOES NOT FIT WITH THE ORIGINAL BMW SPLASH GUARD. Is this correct for both standard and low frame models? Many thanks and fantastic video by the way...
That’s was added a few months after the video. Here’s my take. I rode (standard frame) on roads for 10,000 kms with it on and had no issue. I suspect if you had suspension on minimum off-road then you may in extreme situations contact the splash guard. However I guess that may become more likely with the lowered frame??
@@nickhodgeUK Hi Nick, many thanks for your reply, I suspected the same for the low frame model but wanted to make sure, many thanks again...
I bought such a box, the manual says that the fender needs to be removed, is it necessary if I don't drive off-road?
I rode 6,000 miles with no issue. Standard height bike with suspension on auto, no off road 👍🏻
Nice product but I unmounted mine: you have to remove the mudguard for safety reason. And despite this the rear wheel rubs the toolbox! Wunderlich does not want to admit that this box can dangerous :(
Hi. Not my experience but I guess it will be dependent on tyre fitted (I’ve had standard Battlax AND Continental TA3) and how it’s mounted and the bike used. I’ve had no issue in 3,000 miles of road use so far 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK I maybe need to loose some weight :p > I've installed Dunlop Mutants, quite typical width
Doesn’t work with Mosko 35L bags or the same bags from BMW (Atacama)
Thanks for the update 👍🏻
Hi Nick, getting a new R1250 GS Adventure TE and stating to kit it out. Is there a list of items that you would recommend eg specific toolkit, tyre kits, air pump etc. Will get the wunderlich toolbox to keep them all in.
Hi Phil. Consider all the larger toolboxes have been marked with a warning now to remove the splash guard on the rear. I never did and had no issue but I suspect if you have suspension on minimum and are off-road it technically could happen. Regarding pump. I use an airman unit. It is small, fast acting and the gauge is pretty accurate. On tools that’s a toughie. I may do a video but when I’m fitting accessories or doing anything on the bike and I need it I add that to the toolkit if I feel it’s likely to be something to remove in the road. Certainly I have torx 10 - 45 in a mixture of bits to go in a handle and keys for the larger sizes. I have to carry some hex keys for accessories. You’ll see it’s a hate of mine that they supply hex instead of torx. I then carry Phillips and pozi bits. I have a small torch and adjustable wrench. I have wrenches 10-14 and the same in sockets with a small 1/4dr ratchet as nothing is really tight. Then most important a reel of duct tape and cable ties!!! 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Thank Nick, much appreciated. I look forward to any tools videos you might do. All the best, Phil
The screw on the back of the lock - is the temporary one the Philips one of the stainless torx one?
I fitted mine with the torx screw not sure which is meant to be the temporary one?
Thanks
I’m not sure now but I’m not remembering a torx one 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK thanks I used the Philips in the end with a dab of loctite. Mine came with a torx and Philips but doesn’t say which is the temporary one. I doubt it would make much difference to be honest.
New to the channel and loving it. Great content. But very jealous that you get stuff for free....will you adopt me. I'm 63 and own a 2021 GSA 1250. DAD......LOL
Don’t get that much free to be fair. Certainly bought a fair bit as we all do. Take it easy son 🤣👍🏻
Hi Nick
Just wondered if you have any info on the Black Box Embedded LINQ version 2.0
Hi Richard. No I don’t although NIppy Norman’s seem happy to let me have stuff so may ask as it’s something I’ve wanted to try 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK nic where have I been . We miss you in the US
@@sdecarteret ha ha. I’m still here just been hibernating the wet winter. Watch this space 👍🏻
Are the Toolbox and BUMOT pannier can fit together without any modification ?
Done, I got my answer in the commnets below :)
Great. Glad you found it 👍🏻
Wunderlich site states "Fits only with original BMW Racks & Aluminum Panniers, without original Splash Guard"... I don't understand the splash guard reference. In your demo I see your splash guard on rear wheel or, am I misunderstanding what a splash guard is? (I have 2021 GSA)
Hi Rainer. I noticed the reference to BMW panniers (Touratech) only and that is because they only ‘spot’ touch the arch and where the brackets are there is a gap. My Bumot ones touch all round but still fit although tight. With regard to the splash guard I would agree it’s the small ‘mudgard’ secured to the final drive case with GS on it. It’s new on me but maybe in extreme situations the box contacts it??? I’ve ridden a few thousand miles with it in without issue however 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Yes... if you ride 2-up off-road (luggage or no luggage) or even solo off-road or on-road into a well designed crater in the road, you run the risk of fully compressing your rear suspension in which case the toolbox may shear the mudguard arm or itself and either the mudguard arm or the toolbox may go into your wheel spokes thereby either damaging your spokes and/or locking your wheel at speed. This is also true of the Touratech toolbox (and all the knock-offs) and that's why finding a decent sized toolbox for the 1200's/1250's without removing the mudguard has been until now futile. The only manufacturer I have found so far that will confirm in writing that their toolbox can be installed without removing the mudguard is Givi (S250) but I suppose that's why their box is installed at an angle and has an angled bottom.... and also why probably it's so small. I have not checked with Bumot and as for the other "Cylinder" (Pipe) toolboxes... well, I just can't stand them... messy looking install and usually unlock able. So my tools are still in my panniers which is driving me nuts. I suppose if there was a "legally sound" solution BMW would have sold one for a few ounces of gold.
... love your Vid... clear and meticulous 👌
@@albishtino6245 thanks Al. Interesting. Looks like I don’t extend my bike too much as so far it’s been fine. I’ve swapped it out now for the Bumot which is much shorter in height so hangs higher. It’s no where near as big but I’ve shrunk my toolkit as I fit accessories to the bike I mark the tools I’ve used and most of the rest I just leave in my shed toolkit. The Airman pump has to go in the top box but generally I’m a light packer on trips for a week so have space. Thanks for taking the time and ride safe 👍🏻
Hi Nick did you remove the mud gaurd thingy?
I didn’t and it was fine. The advice now is to remove the splash guard but I think it’d have to be quite extreme circumstances for them to contact 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK thanks Nick
Nick, haven't seen any new videos.....you doing good?
Hi Glenn. Yes doing fine thanks for asking. I do have a couple of rides and trips to edit but been winter. Had covid, etc. all the usual UK stuff but hoping to come out fighting soon 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK 👍 yep same here in the US, covid, unusually cold in Tennessee but did get a chance to go to Florida to visit and ride with my friends at AMEN MOTO.
Next ride is in March to Southwest Texas hill country..
Hi nick where are you ,I loved your content are you ok mate 👍
I am great thank you Anthony. Most of my content is fitting and you can only fit so much on one bike and most I have to buy as well. That said I find the editing laborious if there is lots of footage. If I can motivate I have a Pyrenees tour and also one just completed through Germany. Thanks for the compliment though. Watch this space 👍🏻
Hi Nick, would be great if you could upload your tour videos. Your commentary style is very thorough and enjoyable to watch.
I’m sure I’ll get there at some point as my buddies moan about it 🤣. It’s just a lot of work and as it’s only for fun, it’s sometimes too tough to find time. Thanks for the compliment though. I’ll try 👍🏻