I have been emailing 5.11 pretty much daily to bring back this line because I need the helmet/shove it AND admin gear sets. But I'm only one voice. You have the followers and viewers. Maybe together we can all get them to bring back one of the best bag lines ever made for pro and every day users!
I did this, too. Was devastated to find out the AMP-line was discontinued. The AMP12 is the best pack, easily fits a 3 l water bladder, one 15" laptop, a cycle lock, changing clothes, power bank plus 45 W plug charger plus 2 13.5 " laptops in the front compartment and additionally tools, batteries, 2 cycle tubes, tube repair kit, small medkit in the admin gear set.
This backpack is actually quite amazing. Use it as my daily pack, and have used it a few times for overnight camping. Enough room for anything you'll need and then some. Very comfortable and stable as well.
I bought this after watching your video to fill a gap in my collection and I've found that in the few areas it's lacking it's very easy to modify. For example the lack of hip belt. a cheap chinese 1.5" cobra knockoff from amazon run through the provided connection points solved that. I had a ferro concepts hearing protection pad I wasn't using and added that to the back of the belt and it's perfect. this makes a great range bag, and I might pick up a second so I can have one set up as a "i don't know what hike I'm going to end up doing or what the weather will be like" bag that I can just grab and go with. There's so much organization and space.
Great Video! I'd like to mention that theres another compartment below the internal pocket shown 11:00 - its a concealed pocket with a smaller zipper pull. Its designed to carry "sensitive items" like a passport or cash or stuff like that. Seems it worked like intended 😂 Cheers🤙🏻
Yeah there's a couple of other little things that I forgot to mention as well. You just sort of stumble upon them as you get more experience with the bag 😁
@@TaivalOutdoors judging from size of Main Compartment in this Pack I'd have 2 say there's enough room on Loop Velcro Panel 4 at least 2 different Hook Backed Pockets/Pouches!
When I was in the United States Marine Corps our standard pack was 35 liters and it was considered a 3 day assault pack. I ordered the 5.11 AMP 24, hopefully it’ll be here within the next few days. I will be ordering other gear set attachments as well the AMP plate carrier in the near future.
Sounds good! "3 day assault pack" as a term always brings a smile on my face - who is going to assault anything for three days straight?! But I agree, 30-35 liters is a good multipurpose pack size, not too big, not too small.
Taival Outdoors I just saw a 5.11 9x9 utility gear set online. I checked the 5.11 website but it might be discontinued. Have you had any experience with it before it became discontinued?
@@BT_Spanky No I don't have that one. Looks like it has a lot of organization options, which I wouldn't really need. One big pocket would suit my needs better.
We use litres for backpack volume also. Litres and meters are almost identical to Quarts and Yards, and so Americans have an idea of those measurements
I've been on 3 or 4 backpacking trips my entire life, and here in America we actually do use liters to describe bag volume capacity. For some reason the rest the world things that were completely imperial and we use no metric, when we actually kinda use a bit of both, so weird.
Oh really, well it's always good to hear from the locals. I was basing my assumption just on what I've seen from for example on KUIU, Stone Glacier and Seek Outside packs, for example. Interesting to hear you're using kind of both, does(n't) that complicate things or?
@@TaivalOutdoors not really, as it is based on what you're doing. Construction, inches/feet, chemistry grams/cubic cm or milliliters, backpacking liters, measuring liquid for consumption ounces, weight for backpacking, or just in general pounds and ounces. It's ultimately up to you what you want to use, but as for most items in the store, it's imperial, on rare occasions like with backpacking bags, it's in metric, and I believe most bottled drinks are labeled with both.
@@lava3218 Thanks for the clarification! Yeah I'd imagine when it comes to hard sciences that they use metric system just to clear out any possible misunderstandings and to be more compatible across the globe.
Yup. If you shop around REI or other outdoor sites all the packs are categorized by Liters. Us Americans grew up drinking 2L bottles of soda so it's a familiar measurement lol
I love this backpack, the only thing that is keeping me from throwing my money here is the lack of side molle and/or bottom attachment points. but the rest is exactly what I am looking for!
Same with me, I have the AMP 12 and I love it but the lack of water bottle holders on the side and the lack of side webbing made me buy a Direct Action Dragon Egg Enlarged instead when I was looking for a 30 L bag. I don't get it. It's so bland and blank on the side. I can definitely hook an extra pouch on the outside if I attach it to a carabiner and then to the grab handle, and I can also then attach the pouch on the bottom side to the lower cinch strap, but leaving the sides blank was a huge miss on 5.11's part.
This is a very good, well presented review and you refrained from smacking the heck out of the bag like most other youtube reviewers! I like the idea of owning a 5.11 product but might start with a rush 12 for the commute and see how it goes. For larger capacity I wonder whether all that organisation within the pack makes it easier or harder to get to the thing you want and therefore why so many people just go for a large bucket bag and then use smaller dry packs inside? In my opinion any bag used for overnighters should give you the option to strap a roll underneath. Is it big enough to take your sleep system inside plus everything else? These 5.11 bags aren't cheap & I'd hate to make a mistake. Thanks for your good work.
Thanks a lot for the comment and feedback. For overnighters I have had my Thermarest Z-lite SOL pad strapped on the outside of the pack, but everything else fits inside. Personally I'd go with AMP over Rush series for everyday pack, as both are still molle compatible but AMP is a bit more "civilian".
1. Is the backpack heavy to wear? Will the hard plastic shell on the back be comfort enough to wear it? 2. Is the backpack suitable for everyday use in city life or is it too clumsy for that purpose?
1. I don't think a small bag like this is ever going to be heavy to wear. Personally I'd prefer a hard plastic shell like in this over formless, sack-like backpack any day. The backing is tough, but it bends/flexes a bit, so it's not like you'd carry a hardcover book against your back. But yeah, it's definitely for structure, not for comfort. 2. I guess this comes down to personal preference, but I'd say it's less "clumsy" than traditional assault packs for EDC use.
@@TaivalOutdoors Thanks for the reply! I forgot to ask if the backpack has space for a hip/waistbelt. If yes - where can I find one for the AMP-series?
The new hexagonal molle pattern is wrong. The shape should have been octagonal to allow attachments from a vertical, horizontal, and angular direction at 45 degrees left or right!!!
By far the best review on the amp24! Great video 😀 i havent found yet any video of a (controversial maybe) comparisson between the new rush24 2.0 and that bag 😉 just an idea
Thanks! That would be a fun comparison to make, but I probably wont do that since I'm only testing and reviewing gear that I will be actually using (beyond just reviewing them for CZcams), and I don't need two same sized backpacks.
Hi! Thanks a lot for this neat review. Just another question about rainy conditions: you said it is ok to place the bag on wet floor but how is the "main" external nylon to keep the gears dry under the rain? Cheers
nowadays bag designers are just putting too much effort in streamlining bags' outlook. 1. no bottom strap to hold tent/sleeping roll. 2. no outside bottle pouch. Putting a tent inside plus a large bottle will probably occupy near half of the space inside! Also, no bottle pouch outside just eliminate the option to put some long shaft shape thing like a camera tripod outside. two compression straps won't be able to hold that. it claims to be a “all mission” pack, however, probably any mission involving a tent/sleeping/long camera tripod will try out its true practical capacity.
far from all mission...lol...this pack dry is a brick....its decent for day hikes at the most...reason why i bought it.......hexacon molles are just novelty ...original molle system so much better
Great review, now subscribed. I have this pack and love it. My only complaint (and it’s small really) is that the rigid back has become rounded at the bottom through use.
Great vid, very informative I enjoy using my AMP 24. Question any recommendations for belts to use on the bag as I haven’t found any good comfortable ones that work with it yet
I have used my rucksack belt, which has the internal belt separate so it can be weaved through this pack as well as the waistbelt's original padding. Another cheap option is to buy some airsoft "battlebelt" and just run any old belt through it and the pack's loops.
Hyvä video ja hyvän valinnan olet tehnyt! Itse hommasin kyseisen repun operaatioon mukaan PV:n oman jakotavara camelbackin tilalle. Tähän mennessä ollu tyytyväinen repun suorituskykyyn ja tilavuuteen jotta tarvittavat kamat saa mukaan kentälle. Itsekkin miettinyt tuota kypärätaskua reppuun lisäksi. Parantaa huomattavasti tuota ulkoisten tavaroiden kiinnittämistä reppuun, pitää tulevaisuudessa hommata settiin mukaan. Odotan innolla että pääsee testaamaan omilla metsäreissuilla repun kykyjä!
Kiitti! Joo ehdottomasti toi Helmet/Shove-It on yleishyödyllisin lisäpalikka. Vaikka ei laittaisi mitään sinne kypäräverkkoon, niin on silti kuitenkin hyvät etutaskut mukana.
En, mutta itse asiassa juuri eilen osui silmääni, että 5.11 on julkaissut ekan rinkkansa ja se tulee nimenomaan tuohon RUSH sarjaan: www.511tactical.com/rush100.html
Cheers Mate, great review! I'm thinking of buying it for daily commute, but i need to fit a 16" Laptop in there, any chance that'll fit in the pocket that you show at 4:40?
@@marvin6225 Alright so for that specific pocket it will be a tight fit, according to my quick measurements it should fit but can't guarantee. As you can see that pocket narrows toward the top, so that might be an issue. That laptop will fit inside the backpack's main compartment, of course.
@@TaivalOutdoors as of 5/11/23 they are sold out just about everywhere. Being discontinued by 5.11. OpticsPlanet had some but now they are all but gone >:^(
@@Cons2911 yeah there are some people that complain about the back panel. But after using this pack for about 5 months, it felt great whenever I carry it. At least for me.
@@yenhan705eh77 that is good to know then, bec that is something that is hard to tell without trying, and trying them on for a few minutes would not give accurate results also. Thank you for the feedback
I have been emailing 5.11 pretty much daily to bring back this line because I need the helmet/shove it AND admin gear sets. But I'm only one voice. You have the followers and viewers. Maybe together we can all get them to bring back one of the best bag lines ever made for pro and every day users!
I did this, too. Was devastated to find out the AMP-line was discontinued. The AMP12 is the best pack, easily fits a 3 l water bladder, one 15" laptop, a cycle lock, changing clothes, power bank plus 45 W plug charger plus 2 13.5 " laptops in the front compartment and additionally tools, batteries, 2 cycle tubes, tube repair kit, small medkit in the admin gear set.
This backpack is actually quite amazing. Use it as my daily pack, and have used it a few times for overnight camping. Enough room for anything you'll need and then some. Very comfortable and stable as well.
Especially the backside is surprisingly firm and makes for a good carry.
How heavy is it?
@@TaivalOutdoorsHey, I was wondering which pants you are wearing?
I've been researching this one for a week or so, and this is the best review I've watched. Well done.
Thanks, that means a lot!
I bought this after watching your video to fill a gap in my collection and I've found that in the few areas it's lacking it's very easy to modify. For example the lack of hip belt. a cheap chinese 1.5" cobra knockoff from amazon run through the provided connection points solved that. I had a ferro concepts hearing protection pad I wasn't using and added that to the back of the belt and it's perfect.
this makes a great range bag, and I might pick up a second so I can have one set up as a "i don't know what hike I'm going to end up doing or what the weather will be like" bag that I can just grab and go with. There's so much organization and space.
Yeah I've done the same with old/cheap belts and pads, it's nice that the pack offers that option.
Thank you for a thorough and unbiased video! I've watched a bunch on the AMP line and I think your video is the most helpful.
Thanks, great to hear! Let me know if you have any additional questions.
Thanks for the unbiased and honest review.
No problem 👍
Great Video! I'd like to mention that theres another compartment below the internal pocket shown 11:00 - its a concealed pocket with a smaller zipper pull. Its designed to carry "sensitive items" like a passport or cash or stuff like that.
Seems it worked like intended 😂
Cheers🤙🏻
Yeah there's a couple of other little things that I forgot to mention as well. You just sort of stumble upon them as you get more experience with the bag 😁
@@TaivalOutdoors judging from size of Main Compartment in this Pack I'd have 2 say there's enough room on Loop Velcro Panel 4 at least 2 different Hook Backed Pockets/Pouches!
When I was in the United States Marine Corps our standard pack was 35 liters and it was considered a 3 day assault pack. I ordered the 5.11 AMP 24, hopefully it’ll be here within the next few days. I will be ordering other gear set attachments as well the AMP plate carrier in the near future.
Sounds good! "3 day assault pack" as a term always brings a smile on my face - who is going to assault anything for three days straight?! But I agree, 30-35 liters is a good multipurpose pack size, not too big, not too small.
Taival Outdoors I just saw a 5.11 9x9 utility gear set online. I checked the 5.11 website but it might be discontinued. Have you had any experience with it before it became discontinued?
@@BT_Spanky No I don't have that one. Looks like it has a lot of organization options, which I wouldn't really need. One big pocket would suit my needs better.
We use litres for backpack volume also.
Litres and meters are almost identical to Quarts and Yards, and so Americans have an idea of those measurements
Badass bag. Unfortunately, the lack of water bottle pouch is a deal-breaker for me
I keep hearing that. You could fit some bottles to the narrow side pockets, but I understand what you mean.
Personally, I got a molle waterbottle pouch. It's alright when the bag is stuffed but it will weigh one side of the bag down.
Great review! Very helpful. Thank you!
I've been on 3 or 4 backpacking trips my entire life, and here in America we actually do use liters to describe bag volume capacity. For some reason the rest the world things that were completely imperial and we use no metric, when we actually kinda use a bit of both, so weird.
Oh really, well it's always good to hear from the locals. I was basing my assumption just on what I've seen from for example on KUIU, Stone Glacier and Seek Outside packs, for example. Interesting to hear you're using kind of both, does(n't) that complicate things or?
@@TaivalOutdoors not really, as it is based on what you're doing. Construction, inches/feet, chemistry grams/cubic cm or milliliters, backpacking liters, measuring liquid for consumption ounces, weight for backpacking, or just in general pounds and ounces. It's ultimately up to you what you want to use, but as for most items in the store, it's imperial, on rare occasions like with backpacking bags, it's in metric, and I believe most bottled drinks are labeled with both.
@@lava3218 Thanks for the clarification! Yeah I'd imagine when it comes to hard sciences that they use metric system just to clear out any possible misunderstandings and to be more compatible across the globe.
@@TaivalOutdoors yea, np. If you need anyone insight, just hmu.
Yup. If you shop around REI or other outdoor sites all the packs are categorized by Liters. Us Americans grew up drinking 2L bottles of soda so it's a familiar measurement lol
Great review👌🏻
You convinced me to buy.
I love this backpack, the only thing that is keeping me from throwing my money here is the lack of side molle and/or bottom attachment points. but the rest is exactly what I am looking for!
That's very true. I think it's a conscious design choice to further distance it from 5.11 Rush backpacks.
Same with me, I have the AMP 12 and I love it but the lack of water bottle holders on the side and the lack of side webbing made me buy a Direct Action Dragon Egg Enlarged instead when I was looking for a 30 L bag. I don't get it. It's so bland and blank on the side. I can definitely hook an extra pouch on the outside if I attach it to a carabiner and then to the grab handle, and I can also then attach the pouch on the bottom side to the lower cinch strap, but leaving the sides blank was a huge miss on 5.11's part.
This is a very good, well presented review and you refrained from smacking the heck out of the bag like most other youtube reviewers! I like the idea of owning a 5.11 product but might start with a rush 12 for the commute and see how it goes. For larger capacity I wonder whether all that organisation within the pack makes it easier or harder to get to the thing you want and therefore why so many people just go for a large bucket bag and then use smaller dry packs inside? In my opinion any bag used for overnighters should give you the option to strap a roll underneath. Is it big enough to take your sleep system inside plus everything else? These 5.11 bags aren't cheap & I'd hate to make a mistake. Thanks for your good work.
Thanks a lot for the comment and feedback. For overnighters I have had my Thermarest Z-lite SOL pad strapped on the outside of the pack, but everything else fits inside. Personally I'd go with AMP over Rush series for everyday pack, as both are still molle compatible but AMP is a bit more "civilian".
Thanks for the content very insightful
Glad it was helpful!
I have the AMP72 in the color Tungsten with a camelbak 3 liter water bladder, no need for water bottles.
Good review, thank you 👍
No problem, glad I could help 👍
Is this pack small enough for carry on size for airplanes?
I think so, yes.
Why the stopped selling that bag in their official site?
1. Is the backpack heavy to wear? Will the hard plastic shell on the back be comfort enough to wear it?
2. Is the backpack suitable for everyday use in city life or is it too clumsy for that purpose?
1. I don't think a small bag like this is ever going to be heavy to wear. Personally I'd prefer a hard plastic shell like in this over formless, sack-like backpack any day. The backing is tough, but it bends/flexes a bit, so it's not like you'd carry a hardcover book against your back. But yeah, it's definitely for structure, not for comfort.
2. I guess this comes down to personal preference, but I'd say it's less "clumsy" than traditional assault packs for EDC use.
@@TaivalOutdoors Thanks for the reply! I forgot to ask if the backpack has space for a hip/waistbelt. If yes - where can I find one for the AMP-series?
The new hexagonal molle pattern is wrong. The shape should have been octagonal to allow attachments from a vertical, horizontal, and angular direction at 45 degrees left or right!!!
There is also a hidden zipper under the first mesh pocket
Quick question: What is the chest pack you are wearing? By the way, your video convinced me to buy this 5.11 pack from their website. Thank you!
He has a video on it. “Hill People Gear” I saw it and wanted to know more too
@@ELDIABLO0913 That's right, it's the Hill People Gear Original Kit Bag. Here's my full review and loadout: czcams.com/video/G1OVAJyChac/video.html
Great review! Looking for review of the 5.11 amp 72 😎
Thanks, more 5.11 reviews coming soon!
By far the best review on the amp24! Great video 😀 i havent found yet any video of a (controversial maybe) comparisson between the new rush24 2.0 and that bag 😉 just an idea
Thanks! That would be a fun comparison to make, but I probably wont do that since I'm only testing and reviewing gear that I will be actually using (beyond just reviewing them for CZcams), and I don't need two same sized backpacks.
@@TaivalOutdoors that makes sense. Thanks Taival for the answer, keep up the good work
Hi!
Thanks a lot for this neat review. Just another question about rainy conditions: you said it is ok to place the bag on wet floor but how is the "main" external nylon to keep the gears dry under the rain?
Cheers
All of the nylon should be water-resistant, but if it's raining hard I'll have my poncho covering the pack as well.
How's the Zippers? YKK Zippers? It does look good n I might get one :) always wanted a 5.11 tactical
Haven't had any issues with the zippers so far 👍
@@TaivalOutdoors cool! Any idea where I can find it? I can't seem to find it on Amazon
@@JC-wj3hx Where are you based? You can always order directly from 5.11 website.
nowadays bag designers are just putting too much effort in streamlining bags' outlook.
1. no bottom strap to hold tent/sleeping roll.
2. no outside bottle pouch.
Putting a tent inside plus a large bottle will probably occupy near half of the space inside!
Also, no bottle pouch outside just eliminate the option to put some long shaft shape thing like a camera tripod outside. two compression straps won't be able to hold that.
it claims to be a “all mission” pack, however, probably any mission involving a tent/sleeping/long camera tripod will try out its true practical capacity.
far from all mission...lol...this pack dry is a brick....its decent for day hikes at the most...reason why i bought it.......hexacon molles are just novelty ...original molle system so much better
Great review, now subscribed. I have this pack and love it. My only complaint (and it’s small really) is that the rigid back has become rounded at the bottom through use.
Thanks for the sub! I haven't had that happened to my pack yet, but good to know. I'll keep an eye out for it.
Great vid, very informative I enjoy using my AMP 24. Question any recommendations for belts to use on the bag as I haven’t found any good comfortable ones that work with it yet
I have used my rucksack belt, which has the internal belt separate so it can be weaved through this pack as well as the waistbelt's original padding. Another cheap option is to buy some airsoft "battlebelt" and just run any old belt through it and the pack's loops.
Hyvä video ja hyvän valinnan olet tehnyt! Itse hommasin kyseisen repun operaatioon mukaan PV:n oman jakotavara camelbackin tilalle. Tähän mennessä ollu tyytyväinen repun suorituskykyyn ja tilavuuteen jotta tarvittavat kamat saa mukaan kentälle. Itsekkin miettinyt tuota kypärätaskua reppuun lisäksi. Parantaa huomattavasti tuota ulkoisten tavaroiden kiinnittämistä reppuun, pitää tulevaisuudessa hommata settiin mukaan. Odotan innolla että pääsee testaamaan omilla metsäreissuilla repun kykyjä!
Kiitti! Joo ehdottomasti toi Helmet/Shove-It on yleishyödyllisin lisäpalikka. Vaikka ei laittaisi mitään sinne kypäräverkkoon, niin on silti kuitenkin hyvät etutaskut mukana.
Hi! What cargo pants are you wearing?
Hi, I think in this video I have Clawgear Enforcer pants, 1st generation.
Oletko käyttänyt 72h rush backpackia vaelluksilla?
En, mutta itse asiassa juuri eilen osui silmääni, että 5.11 on julkaissut ekan rinkkansa ja se tulee nimenomaan tuohon RUSH sarjaan: www.511tactical.com/rush100.html
What is the front pack you got on here ? I like that too
Thanks, it's Hill People Gear Kit Bag. My review and loadout here: czcams.com/video/G1OVAJyChac/video.html
Cheers Mate, great review! I'm thinking of buying it for daily commute, but i need to fit a 16" Laptop in there, any chance that'll fit in the pocket that you show at 4:40?
Thanks! I believe 5.11 promises it fitting only 15" laptops, but if you tell me the true measurements of your laptop I can check if it fits or not.
@@TaivalOutdoors Thanks in advance, it's 24x36x3 (cm)
@@marvin6225 Alright so for that specific pocket it will be a tight fit, according to my quick measurements it should fit but can't guarantee. As you can see that pocket narrows toward the top, so that might be an issue. That laptop will fit inside the backpack's main compartment, of course.
Good sir! Do you know if this bag would fit a basketball?
Sorry I don't have a basketball to test with.
Did you have a video on your LK35?
Where did you get a tan amp24 they don’t have them on the website .
It's probably just sold out. You can see the "Kangaroo" color on other AMP packs as well, so it's a standard colorway.
@@TaivalOutdoors as of 5/11/23 they are sold out just about everywhere. Being discontinued by 5.11. OpticsPlanet had some but now they are all but gone >:^(
Can you use this for edc?
Absolutely.
Would this fit a 12x18 armor plate?
Hi, I don't have one to test with but I doubt it. At least not in the laptop compartment.
Can you please tell me the brand and model of your bibs ? Those look awesome!
Bibs?
Hyvännäköinen LK-35 vilahti myös videolla 😎
Tuomassa vähän kontrastia 😁
I’d buy one if it gets a discount
They usually have a sale on black friday and around Christmas. I got one last year for 120 including tax and free shipping.
@@yenhan705eh77 yeah I’ll wait for a discount. Looks great, not a fan of the back side but overall it looks great
@@Cons2911 yeah there are some people that complain about the back panel. But after using this pack for about 5 months, it felt great whenever I carry it. At least for me.
@@yenhan705eh77 that is good to know then, bec that is something that is hard to tell without trying, and trying them on for a few minutes would not give accurate results also. Thank you for the feedback
They just had them for $99 on 5.11 and Amazon. Might still be on sale.
he forgot to take his camera with him ... oh no
Hugh??