How A Former "Bust" Revived The Center Position
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There's a lot of NBA players who are labeled as busts near the beginning of their career. But very few can actually shed that label and become something more. In this video, we take a look at the incredible journey of Tyson Chandler. Enjoy!
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tyson was never a bust tho, just was never in ideal situations until he got to the hornets. he's always been a solid player, just under/mis-utilized early on
He made De'andre Jordan a star and Clint Capela also
Tyson Chandler was NEVER A BUST!! How do you call a player that was having multiple 18+ rebound games in his 2nd year a bust?? YOUR TITLE IS CRAZY AND MISLEADING!! He was a "baby bull" and matured to a valuable player and unlike some of these 2nd year players we are seeing today, if was obvious he wasn't a bust in his 2nd year once he started getting real minutes... He was young, light in the backside but 7ft. He played PF when he came in the league from high school and grew into the center position after he gain "grown man strength" and more craftiness.
Good job throwing respect on Ben Wallace name
FORGET opinions on CHANDLER, YOU should be concerned about opinions on YOU. And MY opinion is calling TYSON CHANDLER a bust? It's CLEAR You DON'T what you're talking about.
He was absolutely essential to the 2011 Mavs championship. He was so dominant defensively that Dirk's deficiencies in that area didn't matter.
He held down the middle while Kidd, Stephenson, Marion, and Butler did work on the perimeter
Caron Butler was hurt
Completely agree
Stevenson
absolutely yes, loved Tyson's game, and especially sweeping the Lakers was amazing
Tyson Chandler was absolutely essential later in his career when he helped the 2010-2011 Dallas Mavs win that championship against Miami, absolutely dominant on the defensive end and he really did help a ton towards that team in a big way
you’re spot on Bruce, Tyson was a huge piece that the Mavs might not of won without him
Yes!
Lebron chocked lmao 😅
sadly mavs didnt resigned him after that
@@hothous3jo3y32 chocked?? make yourself believe that shit. lmao
It's crazy how many bigs Chris Paul made great
Real talk 💯
Chris Paul is an architect
@@stentor9579 no, chris paul is gone next szn in okc
imagine if Kwame Brown had Chris Paul. nvm he’d prolly still suck
Respect to you for understanding the art of basketball and how a great pass first point guard can improve every player on the court
He turned his career around and won some accolades
Yyyyyyep thx.
Thanks for summarising the video
good to know you watched the video 👍
I remember a decade ago the Chris Paul and Tyson Chandler alley-oop was called the Crescent City Connection.
CP3 was the guy to really unlock Tyson’s potential. As a Bulls fans I immediately started feeling cheated.
Big mistake by the Mavs not to resign him after their championship.
no doubt, insane that they didn’t, that’s a cool “what if” idea on The Mavs if they did resign him
mavs were trying to get Dwight but failed and signed Yi Jianlian from Wizards. As A Chinese fan I was pleased but as a mavs fan I was disappointed.
@@martylei9803 Yi is another player whom was really disappointing. Thought he had potential like Yao... May be if he is 5 years younger and join the league 2010ish he could have been a beast.
@Casdom Domcas stop it,wdym false champions? Literally one of THE toughest runs in history.
@Casdom Domcas No one ever says Dirk did it by himself. People always bring up JJ Barea and Jason Terry 😂😂😂
I love his dunks those rim pulls fist pump kinda like Kenyon Martin it looks so powerful
such a beast
Man Chandler is one of my favorite centers ever. Definitely a defensive juggernaut and a very high percentage shooter
Also they didn't just let Chandler go for a Howard. Dallas was trying for Deron Williams and Howard that summer, so they blew up the team
100% they should’ve let em
They got deron and chandler in a season but they are washed up already
It wasn’t Howard we was after it was deandre Jordan. He agreed to sign with us verbally but then he backed out when doc rivers and Chris Paul got him to resign with the clips.
We went for Dwight when we got chandler.
@@kingofgames2679 in between chandler and DeAndre they tried to go for Howard as well
suprislying he is competing for the nba this guy deserved more then 1 allstar selction.Roy hibbet got selcted over him in 2012 and tyson was much better then him in 2012 and although he did get selected2013
Like the video duos with crooklyn
@@shahsawarkhan1979 ?????????
TyCo is pure ENERGY and such a hard worker. I’m glad he’s got a ring for his efforts💪🏾
Ben Wallace effect. It started with him reviving the center position. More defensive-minded guys who can run the floor and defend and be rim protectors. He let it be known that you don't have to score to be effective. Good video, and point as well, but Ben Wallace should be given the credit for redefining the role of centers.
Wallace is so underrated, definitely deserves to be in HOF, I might make a video on him soon
Idk. Rodman was actually an amazing slasher in his early days. Defend but he was less of a “rim” protector and more like a linebacker lol.
If Ben redefined the role of a center you’d see more undersized bigs but you don’t he’s just redefined it for himself lol
@@TheStefanp10 Please explain the small ball phenomenal that has taken place in the league as of late where you'd have guys 6'7"-6'9" playing the center position. And if you ask me, position should be based on how you play and not size in which I know size really play a huge part in positions. Look at some Jokic, he's a 7 footer and play like a point guard but he's a center. But all of that is the position-less ball that I like. Regardless of his size, Ben Wallace played center and he was defensively gifted and redirected the role of centers regardless of what you say.
@@YardratZ Rodman didn't play the center position though. He may have guarded them from time to time but he didn't play the position .
I have a lot of respect for Tyson. Although, he's not the first in his type. Isn't Marcus Camby and Ben Wallace the same type of player before him?
They were much more prolific of shot blockers and rebounders, but yeah.
Agreed! Camby was insane on blocking shots.
Camby was my guy!! Loved him on the '99-00 Knicks squad.
@@OUrNit03 That was an amazing run for the Knicks
@@crossthewater2002 Yes sir. Camby, Alan Houston, Larry Johnson, Spreewell....Squad!!!
Tyson Chandler has always been one of my favorite centers in the game. How he anchored the paint and brought tough defense to every team he played for was amazing. Everyone talks about Dirk, Jason Terry, and all the players on the Mavericks 2011 run but Chandler was where they really shined.
Fun fact: Tyson Chandler was considered a SF in his early Bulls year. The Bulls sobered up and realized he was better as a BIG.
... WHAT? WTF WERE THE FRONT OFFICE THINKING AT THE TIME?
(And I always thought that Tyson Chandler was playing PF during his Bulls tenure)
@@felixmartinez1100 Thats the bulls great front office for you lol. Your absolutley right though. He did play the PF/C position but if you do some research you can find him as a SF. I believe it was NBA 2k3 at the time had him listed as a SF as well.
www.ign.com/wikis/nba-2k3/Teams:_Eastern_Conference--_Central
@@kkv6124 I watch it, and...
Is still stupid, the could had just putting Donyell Marshall as a SF, then put Chandler as a PF
@@felixmartinez1100 very true.
just like pau gasol and dirk. putting them in a SF position. i think that was the hype that time.
Ryan hollins had a job for being 7 foot tall 😂
basically hahaha
Hollins had bounce tho lol
He’s pretty much Steven Adams but even better defensively
My mind is like clint capela
Steven has developed into such a great player. Great comparison.
Mitchell Robinson is basically a carbon copy of him
Willie Cauley-Stein is very similar to him physically, the way his career started is kinda similar too
@@kevindoherty5999 they are both high IQ players so I drew that comparison. And of course the value of both of them. Lob threats and pick and rolls.
I can’t believe Chandler, Hibert and deandre Jordan were all star/ all nba level players at one point 😢😢the center position was so weak for so long
Chandler,Lin,Novak,Fields,Jr. Smith.
The Bulls used Chandler as a PF behind Eddy Curry at C xD. Bulls did not know what they had!
They were trying to copy the Spurs "twin tower" model
2:20 is where the vid starts
Preciate it bro
🐐
I still watched it all the way through
Chris Paul can literally change his teammates' careers.
Yep
no doubt, he made the entire thunders roster this year better too
It's good to see Tyson Chandler slowly revived his career from New Orleans then becoming a major key in Dallas' title run in 2011 and become the Defensive Player of the Year in 2012 and an All-Star in 2013 with the Knicks. Mark Cuban made a mistake letting him go twice.
Great vid Andy. I appreciate you👏
Your content is some of my favorite Andy, never stop never stopping!
Tyson Chandler its one of my favorite players... Finally someone give him credit! Thanks Andy! Nice work! :)
he deserves much recognition! greta vid! 💪🔥
I always loved his game. It’s good to see a video about him
Chandler is one of my favs, great role player, locker room and on floor leadership and presence. He works hard and pushes the other guys. He provides a lot of energy on both ends of the floor.
I went to middle school at Arrowview with Tyson Chandler! He was already sponsored by Nike and was on "60 Minutes" for his amazing ability to play basketball. I remember how positive and funny he always was. I'm so happy he plays for the Lakers right now. #tysonchandler
This video was amazing loved it 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
Thank you Chandler for your contributions to my Mavs championship run. Best sports memories of my life.
We must give the dude some credit. To come straight from high school into the NBA and then expected to perform at a high level WITHOUT any good veterans to help guide him. That's some serious work to be completed. I liked Tyson when he came to the Knicks. That is when I became a fan of our Knicks here in NY.
Chandler is a great example of someone who always kept trying to get better and develop even when people were trash talking him and saying he would never be anything. He proved those people wrong. Much respect for him!
He was always a center a team wanted
no doubt
Especially in Houston 😂
The best Chandler in NBA history, glad he's on a better position with a happier career filled with success
I love Tyson. When the Bulls practice facility was still in Berto Center, I saw him in the nearby DMV and damn was he tall and started to like him though I began to love another team (Nets and Mavs) even more. He wasn’t as good then, but glad his career went up, won a championship and also won DPOY.
Really Really good peice bro. I didn't even realize it till now how he helped changed the game.
Game changer. He literally makes the other team play offense differently. Pick and roll as well as offensive rebounding are the only skills a center needs if they are good at defense.
not if you want to be a elite superstar!
I love how all of these videos where people are saying this about a guy but in the video it’s showing that person blocking and making shots
Andy Hoops always those trumpets , just dope
As always great video!!!
Really good video Andy and funny too
Tyson Chandler is an excellent rebounder in every 2k🦾 he is so physically gifted
crazy that he kinda “revived” the Center position only for his most recent team being one to kill all their Centers
What about him in the Suns, lakers, and rockets. Also Pau Gasol wasn’t a bust
tyson chandler and chris paul were an underrated duo
Absolutely yes, a classic too
Ima 4ever love Tyson Chandler for what he did and how he contributed to the dallas mavericks championship season legit couldnt have and wouldnt have done it without him
Tyson Chandler is one of those guys who I probably have an irrational love for. He's just the exact kind of guy I'd want on my team. It's too bad that he couldn't have won another chip with LA, this year, even if it were just on the bench. I remember how much life he breathed into the 2018/19 Lakers
As a Mavs fan who watched the 2011 NBA finals, Chandler was one of my favourite players on the floor. Dirk handled the scoring and Chandler did the dirty work: Rim protection, rebounding, setting screens and catching lobs.
Who in their right minds would be expecting a 19 year old top draft pick to overpower Shaq?
Because 19 year old Shaq could dominate anybody
@@christianramirez9303 yeah but not every 19 year old is 7'1 280 with incredible athleticism
@@christianramirez9303 except Hakeem
I love this 2010 Mavs team
Hi Andy Hoops! Was wondering if you can make a video about who the best role players are or eirher the significance / importance of role players understanding their roles in order to win a championship etc? I feel role players, in general, does not get enough credit for embracing / flourishing in their roles that also helped their teams.
When he went to play with CP, he exploded. Then with Felton in Charlotte and then Kidd in Dallas he was already Masterclass on screenroll
I love Tyson Chandler with the bulls it's a shame that he really couldn't develop in their culture but I'm especially happy that he got a ring along with Eddie Curry
3yrs after this video, his torch continues. We see the Mavericks behind the scene where he hand to hand mentored Derick Lively. Lively now has a 74% FG. He told the Mavericks that he is very happy that the Mavericks gave him a project he can work on.
I'm a fan. Totally love his days with Mavs
I'm from Chicago and as usual the BULLS were being cheap, Elton Brand was a solid player but when it came time for him to get a new contract rather than pay him the BULLS traded him.
And Chandler was absolutely heartbroken when he got traded on draft night because dude grew up in Compton and thought he got to play for the local Clippers. Instead he got traded to windy Chicago and it was a tough adjustment for the 18 years old straight outta high school both in terms of friends and weather. Chandler himself said he was lonely and played a lot of video games his rookie year. He also credited Charles Oakley of saving his career. If I remember correctly, Oakley invited him over for Thanksgiving his rookie year.
Chandler is one of the most underrated players of all time.
Kwame brown was the most underrated player of all time.
I Remember when we were kids we block the people we played with we shout tyson chandler name and act like him after the block “😤😤😠😠”
Chandler should have gone to college. Two years at the collegiate level would have been huge to his development.
“How’s going folks” I swear I never hear the “it” at the beginning of your videos 😂
Chandler is a perfect fit during Mavs Championship run (also Dirk stepped up his interior D in the finals)
As a Mavs lifelong fan for 26 years (I’m 29 and started watching when I was 3), I look at the 2011 championship and what happened after differently than most. Chandler was the defensive MVP and was incredible for the Mavs, but at the time Howard was on a different level. When the Mavs played the Magic, Howard would beat Chandler around and Cuban must’ve been thinking, “If we can win with Chandler, imagine the improvement with 3 time DPOY Howard.” Now going for Deron Williams was in hindsight a bad idea, but in the moment we wanted him to come home to the Mavs. Imagine that roster:
Deron Williams, Dwight Howard, Dirk Nowitzki, Jason Terry, Jason Kidd, Shawn Marion, and Deshawn Stevenson, then add pieces around to make a full rotation. At the time this seemed like a near god squad to go up against the Heat and Spurs.
Hi Andy good video! Can you please make a video on “ how good was Tracy Mcgrady?
Wish my team(Knicks) kept him longer. We could definitely use his talent and experience on there now. He was a monster for us!!
The only problem with Tyson Chandler's role in the 2011 run, came in the 1st round against the Trailblazers, where Lamarcus Aldridge was always scoring over him. He was virtually unguardable until Rick Carlisle took Chandler out, replacing him with Brendan Haywood, then things really turned around for the Mavs.
Lamarcus Aldridge was a fucking beast back then man. Good call
Haywood is arguably the best back up center since bill Walton
Chandler was also really good at slapping out offensive boards to the guards to start a new possession
I wish Tyson creates a podcast so that he could tell cool stories with the amount of teams he had been on.
It's amazing what Chandler accomplised when he did't have the pressure of being "the guy". When he went to New Orleans and Dallas he was able to maximize his strengths and minimize his weaknesses when he was surrounded by stars.
Andy! 🐐
Anyone reading this I hope you have a great day today
I hope you have a good day aswell
I Remember when we were kids we block the people we played with we shout tyson chandler name and act like him after the block “😤😤😠😠”
Hi Andy! Why nobody talks about Juwan Howard?
He was a kind of hype player in early 2000’s.
It will be really good to see something about his career.
Love ur videos
Yet again interesting video 👍
Nba ESPN 2k5 they had him listed as a SF lmao I was so confused but loved that a 7 feet was a SF.. that’s probably why I became a fan of KD as soon as I seen him
In the thumbnail, it looks like Tyson's hair transfered to his face
I was watching Tyson chandlers mvp speech and this pop up
11:26 it turned out well for Gasol :D not like he played in HS :D
Krause had good eye when scouting talent and measuring their potential
David West is a bad defender now? 🤔
Right? That surprised me...
I thought he was average
If I remember well he was one of the best defenders in the warriors
Tyson was a crucial part of Linsanity & it may have not totally worked if he wasn't there. So he will also be remembered for being part of that crew by the world, not just NBA & basketball viewers.
How you gonna called the Man "A Bust" when he's a NBA Champion and still playing in the NBA. That's not a bust dude. SMDH!
Andy’s running up a check with all these ads 💰
He helped my boy get a ring 💪🏾‼️
Elton Brand, one of my favorite Clippers players ever.
Straight Outta Dominguez (Compton, CA). Also, The Late Dennis "DJ" Johnson's Alma Mater (Not Mater Dei...Boo😂), also.
He'll always have a spot on my team he was a kid in a grown man's game
Same thing you can say about Stak and Danny Granger even; they were prototypes (somewhat) of what modern day wings are nowadays
i think his career blossomed when he went to new orleans with david west, peja stojakovic, and chris paul.. they were solid that time and his focus was on defense where his strength was.
and the biggest bust that year was the guy picked before him... kwame brown.
A real pointGod can revive so many players’ career shoutout to CP3 🙌
When we got rid of Erick Dampier for Chandler, I thought we Mavs fans were in for more disappointment. He was a bust. Then the season started.
The current rookie Derrick Lively reminds me SO MUCH of Tyson Chandler, circa 2011. When Tyson got here, it's like his light flipped on. The kid Lively seemed to flip that similar switch.
Thank you, Tyson Chandler.
You know what's funny? Even Dwight Howard had to change his game to Tyson's style just to get a job! Tyson is a trend setter!
andy hoops 🔥🔥
great video, he made the best of his career, he is a good example of why you shouldn't always hype up unproven players
No disrespect to Ben Wallace he was a great defensive player and vital to the pistons winning in the early 2000s. If you had put him in the early 90s though his impact would have been much diminished. He’s not half the player Robinson, Hakeem, mourning, Ewing, or Shaq was, but if you got Dikembe in the HOF there is definitely a place for Wallace too. I’m from Philly and thought mutumbo hurt us more than helped us. We needed him in 2001 cause Theo Ratliff went down with an injury, but he really wasn’t suited to the team we had. Theo Ratliff was having his best season and I think we would have gotten 60+ wins that year if he didn’t go down
One of my best players of all time T.C
There was a time in NBA 2k5 that Tyson Chandler was listed at Small Forward
That true. I forgot about that
Let me guess: Antonio Davis was the PF, isn't?
Didn't know about this but Chris Paul is proving to be a great mentor. He helped Chandler he helped Shai and I am sure there are more