WHICH 4x4 WAGON IS BETTER!? Nissan Patrol Vs Toyota Landcruiser + New 80 Series Mod!
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- Today I've got a new mod to install on the 80 but first. Lets talk about which 4WD is better.
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Let us know! TAILGATE or BARN DOOR or ONE BIG DOOR! 👇👇👇
Barn door
One big door is kinda annoying when a trailer is attached because it can hit parts or the trailer, and barn door and tail gate are Both equal with pros and cons each to their own ig
barn door every time
Big door. I've had them on 2 outta 3 of my forby's. Spare on it and drop down table. They just work. Cheers guys
One big door that lifts up...like on the WK2 Jeep Grand cherokee.
Is it just me or did Patrick get way too excited about talking about doors
Was expecting a more thorough 80vsgu comparison. Was more about the 80 at the end very little mentioned about both vehicles capability, weakness, pros, history etc and liability. Otherwise the video is still good with both nice rigs
Love a tailgate. It's a bench, it's a table, a storage compartment and can serve as a rain shade/sun blocker. I remember as a kid, just sitting at the back on the tail gate and just watching the beach or the view whenever we went on camping trips. Just that nostalgia that makes me love a tailgate.
I love my GU, but I've always been jealous of the 80-style tailgate. Now with those couple of cons you mentioned I'm not as jealous anymore! I had a pajero and I was fine with the single door a lot of the time, but with my camper trailer on I couldn't open it and that was frustrating.
Loving the videos guys. Unfortunately I have low vision so just can’t see enough to get my license but love going wheeling with Dad and my mates. Your videos have been giving me great ideas for mods to do on Dad’s 90 Series Prado. Keep up the good work.
The single big rear door is a real pain if you tow anything, the can swing with real force if you are on a slope and as mentioned earlier, can sag. I’ve had all 3 alternatives and they all have pros. I love the tailgate most but the stretch into the back is hard work.
Loving the Tuesday uploads keep it up lads👌
I like Nissan patrol y61 tailgate doors due to ;
1-The small door give you fast access and easy to open
2-The small door when open it give the car cool looking , the Toyota is more like family car doors ( the feeling)
3- The side Nissan door give you some privacy and windshield
4-The one door system is large for tight spaces (e.g small home garage) , Nissan much more practical of all 3 cars
5- Actually you can open the Nissan small door while the car is driving at ANY SPEED and throw nails under or use the gun if you at mafia business or at wars ( kidding , but true you can open the door and do things)
Honestly like both door styles. I've got GQ rear door and love it, setup a fold down table on one side and water dispenser on other and also love the land cruiser barn door because tail flap to work and put shit on. Great vids guys keen for more!!
Each door has their pros and cons I wouldn’t really say one is better than the other. Did you consider using a sheet of stainless or aluminium instead? It would give you the same outcome but able to put hot stuff on? Cool upgrade regardless
It also wouldn't scratch as easily, thus trapping less dirt
At least half to have something hot and stand on that wouldn't be a preparation area as such would be 👌
Barn doors are awesome & I upgraded mine to put a spare wheel on the door & put a table on the inside doors .. FJ75 75 series Landcruiser troopy 1985
Tbh I like the barn door because u can put a table the fold out when u open the door
Dang, your forby's are gunna have all the good bits on them by the time your allowed out to play! Great thinking. Cheers guys
I like split tailgates, having a seat is awesome but they are fiddely to adjust, more likely to leak, let noise in etc. one big door works the best imo
ive been waiting for this for a loooong time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😁😁
Don’t forget to vacuum out the metal shavings after drilling :)
Cough.
The 80s & 105s also came with barn doors.
Every now and then you see one of those Aussie Grey imports where I live.
Heck my Dad even had a Aussie spec 105 with barn doors.
Edit: In my opinion there is no winner, all of the options have pros and cons.
Some UN spec 200s came with barn doors also!
It was the base model that came with barn doors.
its called poverty pack 105
80 & 105 with barn doors were the povo pak
GXL and up got the tailgate
povo pack got barn doors and vinyl floors with out the good diesel engine now i wish i had barn doors and vinyl floors in my 31yr old 80 my old 3fe engine is better than the good diesel for reliability and the price ive saved on oil changes after 450,000kms makes up for the cost off fuel and piss weak mileage on the 3fe
As a 90 series Prado lover 8ve never really thought about the barn door being so much better . . . And I've always thought the 80 series style tailgate is awesome for the protection above and the instant table . . . And your mod has been a massive improvement for the chopping table! 👌👍😎
A coupla years ago if modded my barn door . . . Bought a kaon 150 Prado rear table and then dot a metal fab shop to cut a 3mm sheeting ally to the same size as the door card. . . . Enlarged some door holes and installed rivnuts like you did and then screwed in the door ally card with the stainless table attached to it . . . Worked an absolute treat and makes amw awesome camp table!! 👌👍😎
One of The best mods I've done on my rig so far!
Besides the frifta Stockton 270 awning which nicely covers the whole rear barn door which is next level and just makes the whole barn door table soooo much more useable at anytime
my suzuki soft top has a half height full door, i really like it but can see the benefit of a tailgate too. barn doors seem to make the rear of the car feel smaller and often they don't handle the weight of the spare tire very well so you need a rear bar anyway.
My 85’ Nissan Patrol MK has a tailgate with factory spare tyre/ jerry swing away 🤷🏽♂️ best of both worlds? Leaf springs….lol
Great job mate, glad you like it.
I've got series 4 gu patrol do they make a lock like the one in the vid for the right big barn door?
I have option four on my Jeep. A full lift up hatch, keeps rain off your head but let's you get fully in. I am fitting a swing away spare from a Merc ML also, once I get the trans replaced. No time for making snacks 😉.
love the bud boys keep it up
Do you notice any noise difference without the carpet.
I have a swb soft top vitara, with a fibreglass “hard top”, which I believe is the best of all worlds - it’s got the half height swing door, which gives u the upside of the table, accessiblity etc, and then the top opening fibreglass roof door acts as the top door cover etc
Patrick Tail gates RULE hands down. Owned from new 1990 80series. Have got factory diff-locks ,a game changer in the Bush.
Not sure i like that mod… after a few cuts on the board, the scratches and cut marks will fill with dirt and dust whilst driving the trails. Plus got to think twice about standing on the tailgate, let alone sit your’s or even worse, someone else’s arse where you prep your food lol…
My tailgate is a prep bench, a seat, step for roof access, and more importantly the hot bench to place the pots and billy’s straight off the fire…
@@-Awareness i would’ve used stainless steel
My favourite door style is the pajero, being able to put a large drop down stainless steel table there is a luxury
Jeep Wrangler, I’ve got barn door with tailgate top, so fold down table on the door with a glass awning 👍🏼
how do you like the xtm drawer?
If it's got a 1HD, I don't really mind what doors it's got.
Isnt the drawer/little lid thing the same but you just dont have the storage in the chopping board
Liam: " I like the way the carpet looks" american accent has me absolutely rolling on the floor. 😂😂 sounded pretty genuine. Kinda impressed not gonna lie. And that's coming from an american😂😂
Patrol guy here, but I prefer the 80’s tailgate 🔥
Both are fantastic rigs and Legends in their own way. But my vote always goes to the 80 series. It holds a place in my heart that no other truck can replace,
You forgot the fourth, and I think best option, which is the system on the Jeep Wrangler Hardtop which has the best of both worlds. The upper section of the tailgate and full width door
Barn door for me, good access to reach far in, planning to fit a fold down table in the future and i like having the spare there to make roof access easier. But the downside is the swinging shut on a hill, defs gonna have to get some struts
Both are excellent machines, 2 of the best 4x4 SUV's ever made.
love the videos boys yewww
More practical than those Christmas lights you put on em.
Each door has it benefits. Will say the cruiser barn doors do open up more than the gu patrols. N that make a massive difference alone 👌🏼
A tip for drilling when you don't want to dent, put some electrical tape about 1cm down from the drill tip to stop it going through 👍
Or another idea is to add a length of pipe (copper/aluminium etc) of a close inside diameter, cut to the length of the drill bit less the depth of the hole you want to drill. This will make it impossible for the drill bit to accidently "catch" and pull through to dent/hole the outer skin etc. So if the drill bit is 100mm exposed from the chuck and you wanted to drill a 4mm thick hole, then a length of pipe around 95mm would be added over the bit before drilling commences.
One big door! For all the reasons you quoted. Saying that I don't mind the Wranglers set up.
Nice. I made up a piece of stainless which has worked well
Anyone mention smashing your shins on the towbar with a barn door?
How do you find the XTM drawers?
I went stainless steel on the tail gate put anything on it and no marks. Also Cary bar for wheel on the back. Does make opening up much longer.
horse's for courser's, my crusier had barn doors my dads had the tail gate. tail gate you can pull up sit down and have some cover, roof top camper top of tail gate closed with a ladder bottom open as a step and work space. barn door's great for spare wheels jerry can water can etc and easier to reach in. maybe they got it right on the pag with 1 big door.
Good little mod🤙Me personaly, I'd chuck some locktight on those bolts. Dont want it coming loose and rattle
you dont want to locktite them otherwise when it comes to removing them later, then nutserts may just spin with the bolt. if he is using alloy nutserts, he souldn't have any issue with them coming loose. more so when the load in plastic.
barn door is the best👌 try opening your big door in a small garage
I have a Pajero and hate the one big door, it's really hard to open and swing if you're leaning the wrong way especially.
Be honest I've got patrol, used to own a prado, a surf and got a mate that owns a 80. So I've had the pleasure of trying all 4 and in my view the surf tail gate comes in first, 80s double tail gate second, one big swinging door third and the barn door fourth.
Reason for the surf tail gate comes first is that 9 of ten I just had to put the windows down throw my rods, tackle bag, shopping or anything in even when with tyre the in the way and the well the tail gate awesome.
mates 80 second is because the top window is up to take or put something in is still pretty practical like the surf. The story can change a bit with having a tyre in the way.
the big swinging thrid door is good for a big table like the patrol (an idea I've thought of one day) and a awesome wind breaker as Patrick said but it can be a heavy to open car facing down hill or close if the car is facing a up hill and can just swing open really fast if your not exspecting it and can't open it when parked at the shops because car is behind you or towing a trailer (the winch bar, tow hitch handle or the stone guard is in the way).
Barn door are good but fourth still have too open both door if I want to put my tackle bag in, anything els or even to open the fridge. Even if I want to add the table it stills feel small a bit claustrophobic and have to move out of the way to pull the fridge out even if I have the table open i can avoid it by having the table the flip under which makes it wider there's company that sells that but depends how you would set it up the fridge and draw.
This is view in it and I know its long but I don't could think I could make it a 10 word sentence.
ya cant win all have pros and cons i loved my 4runner/surf rear window till it stopped working loved my gu barn doors but also love my 80 series tail gate n not a fan of the one big door ya put a bigger tyre on it and the hinges fuck up pretty quickly and cant get in the back if ya towing
Easily the one single door that goes straight up on the y62 patrols. Good access Good vision and a lil shelter
My R50 pathfinder is a hatch back style rear door, which I find pretty good
Biggest fail for the Pajero is the hinges always fail due to the weight and good luck on opening it open in an average car park. Other 2 option are pretty much 50/50 for me I’ve got a patrol so I’m used to the barn door and my wife’s had Volvo XC90’s for the last 10 years or so excluding an Audi Q7 and both work really well.
You just made me subscribe because of your opinion on the single swing door as in the prado 🤙 such a under rated 4x4 due to the over compensating v8s 😉
As a Nissan man I got barn door but I'm jealous of 80 series tailgates
I think tailgate is more practical for weekly grocery shopping from wooly or coles!
Me personally would have put the storage unit in tailgate then cut/shape and mount the chopping board on top and have the best of both worlds. I own a y61 and love the barn doors, but you are restricted when putting gear in. I would love a tailgate as you can use for a seat, the back window can wind down for animals where as my nissan cant do that.
Tailgate because as u said u have a roof, a bench, a seat and no worries about swinging doors in windy conditions and also it definitely looks the best and also yea you need a rear bar to carry a spare tire but it’s a good sacrifice to make to have a bench seat whenever u get to camp
😂😂😂the door might fall on ur head if fails
Who uses ear protection when using a drill? Stf
You missed the worst one the y62. Big door folds up. When you open it it hits the carport roof. It also hits the roller door when its up. The struts dont last that long because of the weight always pushing down on them. When the fence or the roller door is closed you cant squeeze in and open the door a crack and get inside like you can on the gq, gu its a pitta. I miss my barn doors and gullwing windows.
patrol barn doors id prefer... i have the big mono on my zuk and they are far worse when it comes to being parked on a slope. with the patrol ones, you could just lock it, and both doors would act as a great wind break when cooking. Also you can still open the slim side if you have a trailer on where-as i cant with the mono.
3:00 There is third option: A Full size tailgate with no lower part, what about this?
Barn door and lift up jeep has both in one and still carries rear tyre and many more. Jeep has a drop down bench and also a roof over your head.
By the way 80 series came out with a barn door the 1hz model
Swing door is no good, purely cos if you park facing out and someone parks behind you, you cant access the back. Small issue but ultimately the most frustrating.
Ps: ive got a patrol with a gas strut installed.
You've gotta but anti corrosion goop on the rivnuts before you install them. Those freshly drilled holes are bare metal.
the problem with 1 big door is if you hang to big of tire off them they can start doing damge to the hinge and get hard to open
Patty if possibly put the tail gate storage in then put the chop board on stainless piano hinges with 2 latches either end, best of both acc.
You can put a tyre on the tailgate and even a jerry can holder you just need to get the right rear bumper
On the 80 series there are factory spare wheel carrier which swings open and aftermarket on-bumper types. Heck don't get me started the rant on Hilux Surf rear door with the key-turn power window ones.
You can just sleeve the drill bit with a bit of steel tube so you don’t go too far through Just cut tube to sizeany done it the other day putting a roof rack on Hilux so I don’t drill through the headlining
Btw you need to have your car mod plated in qld if you change your front seats
Same here in VIC
80 series detail video please
You simply can't beat the extra table and sitting space on the rear of the 80, not to mention the benefit of overhead protection, and aftermarket rear wheel carriers are easy enough to fit.
Orrr 4th contender to the door situation. The Surf/4Runner tailgate, electric window you can wind down whilst driving as well as having a swing away wheel carrier!
dont wind down that window whilst driving might be cool but ya filling the car with gasses that will make you crooker than a dogs hind leg
Prado single barn door is the best!
Put the chopping board on a hinge and still have the storage insert under it,
hell dude my JK Jeep has both single bottom half folds out and top flips up like your cruiser so have my tyre on bottom and rain cover from top section
I think you’ll find Land Rover Discovery had the one big swing door long before anyone else…
Why not a sheet of stainless steel?
Hey Patrick, sorry to spoil your excitement but the tailgate chopping board and the little white chopping board are two completely different materials. The white chopping board is made from HDPE while the tailgate one is polycarb. Just make sure that you really the polycarb clean if you chop meats.
swing door on a disco. their roof is so high you've got storage for days as well.
You can put a tyre on the back of the land cruiser if you really wanted to
Big rear door. For the win. I had a patrol and hated the barn doors. Tail gate are also not great for the reasons you have stated.
Both are extremely capable vehicles. Personally I'd say patrol since land cruisers chug fuel and cost an arm and a leg (at least in the UK they do).
If you tow, a single swing rear door is no good
Can agree
Know someone who had to take the trailer off every time they wanted to open to door. Terrible design.
Love my Pajero 👌🏽
Tailgate for sure mate!!
Prado 90 series ... Id love a tailgate but then id have to find somewhere to put my spare..
What about the 300 series tailgate
Downside of the patrol doors is they sag when you put a big tyre on it and don't close properly
Maybe the gu but I've had a gq for 15 years now that's always had a big tyre on it and I can open both doors with my little finger.
prefer lift up single door like on MUX or forester etc you can shelter under them in the rain.
$200 for a piece of plastic is robbery hahah
Essentially
Where’s the bloke with the black gq
Got to slow down or post the names of the products and companies you reference.. I had to search and listen a few times over to get who supplied the bench top