Under the KIA NIRO EV
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- čas přidán 31. 08. 2021
- Sandy and and the Munro Live team get the Kia Niro EV up on a hoist to check out the suspension and undercarriage of the vehicle.
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#Kia #NIRO #EV - Zábava
SANDY: "This is a really nice car.... if it was built in the 90's" ME: OOOOOOHHHHHHH!!!!!!
that's what I want to collect, all facts and it's the buyers to decide if they want to have a 90's era car in 2021. Make an informed decision.
And Kia management goes, "Ouch".
Personally I think that cars built in the 90s were built better.
It'ss considered the golden years of imports.
You had a much better blend of simple but durabl manufacturing and durable engines.
Stuff today seems not as well put together quite frankly.
Why not continue to use something that works? And why change it if it still works?
There are advantages to having the shock and spring separate. The shock is going to fail long before the spring gets weak. So rather than having to pull the suspension apart to get a strut out, two bolts and a the shock comes out. Seems like a better design to me.
This car came out in 2017 and as Sandy said it's a compromise between gas hybrid and Electric.
The big thing for me is I don't like how far the battery box hangs below the car for an SUV. Even though it's a small SUV I would worry about getting it high-sided in the middle on something and puncturing the battery box.
But there's no way this car is worth $44,000.
Compared to everything that is out there this Niro and its equivalent Kona still score really well on efficiency. Better in my opinion than the VAG group cars. You have to realize that the model itself is 3 to 4 years old and that Hyundai/kia now came with the Ioniq 5 and the KIA EV6 that can really closely match the Tesla tech
@@jean-paulvandeheijning5088
Exactly. If you spend enough time watching Bjorn in Norway he's done plenty of testing with these cars. And the Kia Hyundai powertrains are very efficient. They're comfortable to drive they have a lot of room in them. My only complaint is that they are overpriced compared to what you can get today. I would never spend $44,000 for this car. At that price point the $39,000 VW id4 is the better car I think. Even though it's slower, and I suspect we'll have lower reliability. Volkswagens are not exactly known for their stellar reliability. Although some of that is powertrain related on their gas powered stuff and maybe the electrics are better.
Don't underestimate the Niro. Despite using very old style suspension made out of mild steel instead of light weight cast aluminum, the Niro is an exceptional handling vehicle. The steering feels extremely responsive and agile. When it comes to the sportiness and and fun factor, the Niro beats the Model 3. And the Niro achieves it with heavy mild steel suspension! This is why I think Tesla needs to fine tune their suspension with motorsports engineers.
I can only agree. We got one of the first batch into France in March 2019 and after 78,000 km it feels as solid as ever. I was surprised at how well it handled compared to the Niro hybrid I test drove and the Nissan Qashqai I had previously owned. The expectation is that these 'crossover/mini SUV' shaped cars will roll a lot but I guess with 435 Kg of battery under the floor the weight distribution is better that ICE powered equivalents. The ride is on the firm side and although I've never been in or driven a Tesla M3 or Y I heard the ride described as a bit harsh. The main roads in France and across most of Europe are flat and smooth so even in a firmly sprung car you are comfy for most of the time. I have recorded the ownership experience with all the costs and stats..with some of our trips in France, to the UK and Switzerland on 'Kia e-Niro Diaries' and Kia e-Niro Diaries Encore' if you're interested and can tolerate amateur camerawork..😊
I agree with the Post and comments. I own a 2019 Niro and its truly a fine machine
I like how a 6 second 0-60 car is now a old people's car. Probably saves a lot of wear by dialing back the performance and it still manages to be faster than many sport models of daily drivers.
Yes, I've driven all manner of German and Swedish 'premium' cars in my working life, now retired I have to say the Kia e-Niro (Niro EV in USA) is as good as any of them and a heck of a lot cheaper to own.
Sandy carries a blade at all times - handy for cutting through BS.
If that is what it is for, he needs a sword !
@@Shadobanned4life Sandy relies on death by 1000 cuts 😜🤣
If you suggest using a screw on fastener , he’ll pull that blade out with the quickness ! 🤣
yesterday had a knife about twice that size to sharpen. Doc said he used it for autopsy. I laughed. When I got it had so many pits along the edge am sure it would not cut a pickle beet in half. He thanked me and said it had never been that sharp in 40+ years. I laughed. Sandy if you need your knife done let me know grins
@@maples328 pop ins work nicely so Sandy says Who knew?
Why I bought an E Niro
Excellent range 300+ miles per charge
Efficiency 4.5 - 5 miles per kW
Fully loaded cabin
7 year warranty
Excellent reliability
10 year power train and battery warranty on it here in the US.
Built on proven tech. No wonder they're so reliable and popular. Still 280 miles and 0-60 in 7s with 450 litres in the trunk and that's just above the load floor. It's a legend here in the UK, where we think the Kia Soul looks like a granny car!
I agree 100%. Most poster here are from the States. We here in Europe have slightly different requirements and opinions - which is ok. We drive a 2020 Niro and are very happy with what we got.
Most BEVs where first based on ICE platforms, except Tesla and BMW i3. But in 2 years nearly all BEVs will be on their own new designed platform.
Thanks Sandy for all your insite you give us.
I like the Soul..
The black sides of of the battery pack are to visually "hide" the pack when viewing the Niro from the side or rear.
Confucius say,
Why fix it , you you can hide it.
Makes sense.
Niro is the best selling EV in Sweden for the last two months and been selling well since launch. It outsold Model 3 like 8 to 1.
👍
TIL: sandy carries a knife, no doubt to cut engineer's egos down to size.
Come on! Everyone know engineers don't have feelings.
@@LewdCustomer feelings no, ego’s yes.
(I say this as an engineer by the way)
Such a terrible thing to say…
Take that, people who say they don't make cars like they used to anymore!
😁😉😍😍😍
That "that's not a knife, this is a knife" thing is hilarious.
I like to bitch about cars and things I don’t like in them but when I got my Nero EV, after a few days I could not find nothing to complain about. Not a modern car like me Tesla but damn SOLID EV. When I get my insurance money back I’ll buy another one right away.
My bitch about them is, you can't set the charge timer unless you set a time for the climate control to turn on automatically.
@@brunohill3229 You certainly can
2:11 What Sandy is trying to say with the knife analogy is that: "Any tool that does more than one job will do none of them well."
The Niro Came out in 2016. The engineering for the car started before that. So it is old. This car wasn't meant to fight the Model 3, ID 4, or Mach-E. Everything about the car is a compromise of packaging. With that said, e-Niro is a is a decent car for the money.
Exactly. Probably the best multiplatform vehicle. Which isnt saying much.
Kia gave him the car he didn't want, to review...
As a first-time EV owner, I'm glad I went with Niro and not the ID.4. This car just works and I love how lowkey & humble it is on the road!
Lowkey and humble. That’s a nice way of saying slow and boring.
@@seantrumble3291 I think you’ll change your opinion once you drive the Niro on sport mode. That 0 torque can easily piss off plenty of “fast” cars at a red light. I’ve turned heads multiple time 😉
humble price of $44,000.
I know someone who has a kia niro (64kwh) here in the UK, not a bad car good range, 0-60 about 7sec, they came out n the UK about the same time as tesla model 3, the kia is a good buy here as it is $43,000 when the model 3 standard range is $52,000
$41 KIA, $39.5K Tesla here (US).
Can you guess which one has a 50% depreciation rate?
Sure the Niro is an ok BEV and would urge anyone to buy that over an equivalent ICE.. but.. you get what you pay for. That model 3 is worth the 10K more, and then some.. IF you can afford it. But.. that’s why many BEVs are needed to fill all the segments
@@fredpinczuk7352 Kia still has a $7500 federal tax credit....and like most dealerships you'll can still get additional discounts. Let's not forget either that KIAs can be serviced at any dealership nationwide. Tesla is riding high with depreciation, but make no mistake...that wont last forever.
@@mustangcrazy77 My local KIA dealers marked up by $5K+. No color choice, no options. "This is what we have on the lot" kind of attitude. The Tesla was still cheaper. and for a lot more standard options and performance. Kia was #1 on our list initially. But the depreciation is just horrible.
@@fredpinczuk7352 You should have expanded your search radius, ours was marked down $7k. As for tech, ours is fully loaded. There is nothing on a Tesla model 3 that we needed….and we HATE the all in one center screen. It’s absurd not to have a center display for your speed…and dedicated buttons for everyday items.
I wonder if Kia sent you this 90’s car to lower expectations so that when they send you their next generation BEV you can compliment them on how far they’ve come.
Should have sent the EV6 or the Hyundai Ioniq5
Exactly
Those cars aren't shipped yet in the USA except for showroom reviews.
@@michaelreyes8670 This was a marketing thing. It increases EV credibility. Just like Ford's rep talking about the Mach E
@@michaelreyes8670 they are practically same 90s design. just different exterior and interior.
Yes this is a compromised design. However, based on this video Kia went above and beyond in its engineering to create a well-built BEV that will likely be reliable and serviceable. No wonder it’s among the most efficient BEV's on the market.
I honestly think they have best chances out of legacy manufacturers to survive the EV transition. They are not asleep at the wheel and replaced their top management with dudes with EV background after Tesla battery day.
I agree. I have one and love it. I’ve had 2 Teslas as well and this car is surprisingly good
@@DTMnoFear
The Legacy brands aren't going anywhere anytime soon.. EVs are still in a niche market. Until electric infrastructure is widespread and massive the masses are buying EVs.
@@DTMnoFear Yeah, I'm not so sure yet. They clearly design and build great EVs, but I think their ambition is way too low. Kia are aiming to sell 880.000 EVs... in 2030. That's what Tesla are selling this year without even having the Berlin and Austin factories online. They should be building capacity and securing battery supply to produce way more EVs; they have great technology to take strategic advantage of the transition, but they seem to be too hesitant. A great car like the Ioniq 5 (same Group) deserves a 500k car per year plant, but they're aiming for just over 100k per year.
@@mamadouaziza2536 EVs are niche in USA but have overtaken Diesel sales in major European nations, change is here
Another lesson in engineering that us common folk can understand, how and why are answered.
I bought this 2020 Niro EV Touring version back in April 2021 and I think it is great. Very well built and has great electronics and options. I was looking at the Tesla Y but was 14 week lead time and a lot more expensive. I picked up the eNiro to get me around for the next several years while the industry figures out the tech, then perhaps buy another EV once the dust settles. Also got it with 0% financing for 84 months and $8,000 government rebate as I live in BC Canada. In the mean time I am super happy with my eNiro.
No Kia is great. They are a very basic car generally with little innovation.
Looks like they put that black vynl on the battery sides to mask the fact that it hangs down below the side rails otherwise it would standout more. You could see the massive gap between the transmission tunnel and the pack. Since this was an adaption they couldn't move the floor height to compensate for the battery thickness even as slim as it was. Reminds me of the upcoming Hummer, thing looks like the pack is like a foot thick, ugly as hell imo, they try to mask it by doing a two tone paint otherwise the side profile of truck would be huge. Mach E and others all do the same thing, try to trick your eye into thinking the body line isn't where it actually is.
Solid observation 👍
gear tunnel? somebody got rivian on the mind! haha great comment I agree
Haha! That’s funny, I had just watched a Rivian thing, good catch I meant transmission tunnel. :-)
yes, if you sight any Kona EV or Niro it's def noticeable. it likely comes from the fact that Kona/Niro chassis also serve as platforms for their ICE versions.
hyundai engineering. dont fix it MASK it
Thank you Sandy. Interesting about the 90s comment. That tech seems to still work well for what it needs to do.
Well KIA is just trying to give you any flavor of Niro that you might want. Whether it's ICE, Hybrid, or BEV. In this case the BEV is just another powertrain choice for the Niro. So I think kudos to KIA for being able to package it into the platform (as a very usable BEV and not a compliance vehicle), and for offering another choice to the consumer.
Yes. I think sandy is 100% right that's its better to have purpose built ev. Which is the next kia ev.
Great job as always !!
Thank you! Cheers!
Love, love my Niro, well designed and so comfortable, I love going to work now😄
Thx again for great video. Nice to learn so much about the different EV’s
The access panel under the battery is in general for fuses replacement.
KIA leaned it in hard way.
Thanks for the much improved bumper sticker!!! You guys are awesome!
Thank you!
01:43 That’s not a knoif...
...this is a knoif 🤣
Well, its a car that came to market 5 years ago and was likely in development for several years before that. Im 100% positive KIA knows this wasnt the best they could do. That said it was the best price value of the time, one of the most efficient EVs, and the first BEV that I actually saw advertisements for in the wild. Just waiting for them to send him an EV6 or Ionic 5.
I agree. The price is the problem with this vehicle. This is a nice little car for a young person or and old person who both have somewhat limited needs. However, it is priced like a Tesla and that's not OK. Frankly, the hybrid is a better offering since it is $15,000 cheaper, gets good gas mileage (about as good as an old Prius) and the base model has all the stuff most people care about.
If the Niro EV was $30,000, that would be a decent offering, but at $39K base, that's just not priced right.
@@TeodorSpiridon ICE manufacturers want their customers to buy ICE or PHEV , they're all pushing those cars.
@Teodor, I agree. I have a 2018 non-plug-in hybrid Niro. It’s a solid little car that gets mileage about as good as a Prius for a reasonable price. I like the form factor and it is very agreeable (if not exciting) to drive.
But as a BEV for almost the price of a Model Y, it’s not a very good deal. I do have a neighbor who bought one on a very cheap lease deal, $298 per month, and she is very happy with it.
Kia et al really do need to find a way to make EVs less expensive. That won’t happen until batteries become much less expensive. The hybrid version has an almost $15K lower sticker price. It seems unlikely the price gap would ever be closed through reduced maintenance costs of the EV. I live in the central US and the EV version is very rare on dealer lots. For now the EV version seems to exist mostly for compliance in costal states and to build corporate experience in matters EV: nothing wrong with that, of course. It is a nice solid car, and I would be happy with it if a used one turned up for an attractive price.
@@wtmayhew It is not just the battery cost though. First people need to understand that the entire automotive industry has already been running on low margins for a very long time. A lot of that has to do with sunken cost. A manufacturer will spend billions developing a new platform, figuring out how to build the platform, and figuring out what vehicles it can put on that platform decades in advance. Then they spread out that cost over the next 20 to 30 years. The longer they can build with the same platform using the same engines, the more they operate in the black. Most manufacturers are barely halfway through the expected life span of their last platform and had hedged against pure EVs at that time. They hedged wrong and are now trying to meet rising market demand and regulatory pressure. That is expensive work.
How we get cheap EVs in the future is expensive EVs today. Period. There is no magic formula to make a super budget car that would meet all of the high tech buyer and regulatory expectations in the US. And there's no good way to shortcut the market processes that create cheaper materials. Except for dramatic government subsidies which most of this new wave of EV investor fanatics is against, even though most of the stalwarts of the financial system have benefitted from dramatic and perhaps excessive government assistance for decades. Oil for over a century. 🤷
It is a superb car, here in the UK you have to wait months to get one, they are very popular, not an old persons car at all. Reliability, quality, cost, 7 year warranty,range,performance,miles/KWh, these are the important features we look for,and the eNiro delivers.
Exactly, owning this car for 5 months now (full options model), coming from a Mercedes C class, I have never regret the trade in. So much fun driving every day, more power, luxury and less costs.
sandy was spot on i didn't even know why i picked it.
its the 90s look
You're the greatest, Sandy! We love you.
90s car input...Rusts around the wheel wells in 3 or less years, has rust "drip stains" down the back hatch where the steel fasteners are used, door panels rusted out after 3 to 4 years, leaks oil after 6 years...love the 90s!
Bad car experience? In some parts of the world one can still see Audi 80 or 100/A6 1st gen still driving in large numbers, despite road salting in winter.. Double sided zinc protection on the entire body does the job. Mechanically also simple '90 cars.
I have a mid 1980s car, no rust.
Had a transmission leak years ago but had it fixed. Surprisingly, the car still has all its original parts including hoses, alternator, sensors etc., everything works.
Got a Toyota from 2000. That car never dies. And never was in a shop unless I wanted. Some old cars are made for life, not profit.
@@mamadouaziza2536 If you are running a mid 80's car with the original hoses and belts you are nuts!
@@michaelholliday100
Not nuts, its just all the hoses including the timing belt are in pristine condition.. I personally check every 3 months. The only sensor every needed to be changed was the one for the idling.. Water pump and fuel pump are all original.
Original fuel injectors and spark plugs. Even the catalytic converter is original. All window motors are working, the same with the air conditioner, not once has it had to be refilled with refrigerant..
The car is built like a tank!
Sandy is right that I've never needed the descaler on my Swiss Army Champ, but I've used all the 8 tools on my Manager more times than I can count. It's no substitute for a Benchmade, but it's easy enough to carry in addition.
The only thing Walker Texas Ranger fears is Sandy with an open blade.
Great summary, A well-built 90's tech EV...
Laughed my ass off at "well designed 90's vehicle."
Packed in a Mazda design.
Like tesla without the batteries and the PlayStation and the IPod ALL
@@nexussymbiosis9270 better than 2021 shit? Its called perspective. Lots of people buy Toyotas for their perceived " reliability". How much of that is old tech? Would you buy a big pickup with rear drum brakes? ( i know Sandy thinks they are ok, but i think my life is more important than saving a few bucks) They are still being sold. Perspective.
Lol
90s electric car😅😂
polite way of saying, don't buy it.
You are amazing Sandy,god bless you. I really enjoy your you tube highly scientifically informative you tube . Best regards.
Thank you so much 😊
Love when Sandy whips out the knife! Don’t mess
Great work thanks
🤗. THANKS SANDY…KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK 👍. And we will keep tipping the cashiers, watching them smile and thank us 🤗😍😍😍
Thanks so much
@@MunroLive 🤗 YOU ARE VERY WELCOME MY FRIEND 🤗😍😍😍
All I have to say is ' 90's Niro or 2021 Bolt, sandy.' Virtually every reviewer that gets asked laughs and say.. oh yeah, the Niro EV. Much better ride.
90s brought us many great things, after all. heh
The access panel under under the battery assembly is an access for the battery management computer to remove it without removing the entire battery pack
Thanks for the constant stream of good info.
Our pleasure!
I get what you're saying about the Swiss knife analogy, but somehow Kia (and Hyundai with the Kona) have succeeded in building very competitive EVs on these mixed energy platforms. These are very efficient and have a pretty good fanbase. However, going forward I'd expect them to introduce models in this class based on the e-GMP platform that is dedicated electric. It would be nice to get your hands on an EV6 or Ioniq 5...
I own a '29 Niro, and I agree, the next big change would b E-GMP based Niro. BUT lets hope they do not ruin the concept, the way VW did with the Beetle
Very interesting, thank you.
Welcome!
Thanks for the review, Sandy. Its was a nice video on the Niro EV. I see it as low end EV, but i am glad it's well built even if the standards may not be cutting edge. I think I'd rather have quality than fancy with no substance.
Glad it was helpful!
As the owner of a Tesla 3 which happens to be a lemon, I’d rather have the Hyundai / Kia I think. Especially given the lack of responsibility shown by Tesla customer service for my rather expensive decidedly imperfect car.
more crowded ev market means more innovation or better prices. maybe they will stock an actual base model instead of the 50k platinum editions
$44,000 low end. or over priced , backward engineering piece of Junk. you decide.
The NiroEV is a bread and butter vehicle to experiment with different drivetrains for KIA. They sent that to Sandy to get feedback.
Hello Sandy, I did see your video and what you where say is so right. I know in the UK we have lost so much just bye management and government look to get think done on the cheep then sending out manufacturing and design to cheep countries. No in the UK we have lost so many skills. I do hope the people that matter here you and your great country just get better and better. Keep well, keep safe and enjoy life.
Making a electric car less complex and more simple makes more sense too the masses. Keep cost down and give it flexility for major maintence at your local shop.
Many thanks Sandy, we missed you the last time 🙂
You’re welcome 😊
Maybe 90's tech but it was a smart way to get your feet wet in the EV market, their later offerings will show lessons learned and reflect Hyundai / Kia constant improvement which they have really demonstrated these days, some very high quality innovate stuff you can almost afford! Thanks as always Sandy for your insight....it means something!
its Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser.
What the market needs, to have BEVs as a more popular choice, it's cheaper options as the Kia Niro or Nissan Leaf.
We need compelling EVs, not mediocre EVs. We want customers to compare EVs to ICE and then choosing EV to be a 'no brainer'. This requires EVs that are safer, more efficient, have better performance, less maintence at equal or less cost. Some current EVs already meet those criteria.
@@davidharris7249 so do you really think the mainstream has plus 40K laying around to buy a new BEV, that suffers a major depreciation in less than five years of usage?
@@RogerM88 No what I believe is the average price for a new car in USA is the same as the price of a Tesla Model 3SR+, and for that price you get the better: safety, efficiency, performance, fuel costs, maintenance, OTA, tech, sound, and charging network, and no pollution, a battery that will last 200,00 miles plus and is recyclable, and best resale value. One doesn't need to pay up front, that is what leases and loans are for. If someone can't afford that price, then they can buy second have like I did for most of my adult life -- and if you are right about depreciation, then they ought to be cheap. BTW, Model 3's sell second-hand for almost as much as new, and in fat sometimes at more than the first owner paid for them. I am sick of people sounding off without actually looking into it. And I also think making mediocre BEVs is to purposely prop up sales of ICE cars.
Kia wants $44,000 for this junk.
someone needs to go jail.
I alway thought that Sandy did not talk about Kia Niro and the Kona was because he had a consulting relationship with them. What he does not see is the price, range, and efficiency trade off's that make this car competitive with the Tesla. The ID-4 is larger but uses 10-15 more juice to go from here to there. sandy does talk about lean design, and the Niro must have a little of that to get the efficiency that it does. Also, the Niro/kona handle regeneration better than anyone
Niro/kona EV are perfectly normal car. And among one of the best in efficiency. Way better than US & German Legacy makers. Excited for ioniq5/ev 6
A big star for innovation*
Enjoy your rants, keep em coming! Cutting through the b.s. helps us all in the long run. Somebody has got to say the truth, sooner or later. Now is a good time.
Look at the EV6!
Your Angry-Sandy video was good.
I expect GM & Co - the old US boys - did that to Tesla. Big & Old doesn't like to change. And they got so much power...
Four HF jack stands as backup in case the lift fails. That’s some serious precautionary measures there.
He's rather his pension payout than insurance...
Major and common issue with the drive motor - makes clacking noise at low speed and droning noise at high speed after about 15k miles, will still drive but the noise is annoying. Will supposedly give out if not eventually replaced. I'm currently on my 3rd motor at 38k miles. Hope 3rd time is the charm. Not having my hopes up too high though, I'll probably go get my 4th motor at about 50k miles.
Another great video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Sandy knows a lot and i learn a lot from him but sometimes the ignorance runs rampant. Gotta sift through the amazing knowledge acquired by him over the years and the get off my lawn with your new fangled machines side he has finely tuned over the years.
i bought my wife a Hyundai Elantra limited a couple years ago. They make damn good cars with a 10 year warranty. Im all about using reliable proven parts if theyre cost effective and durable. Her car has the Atkinson designed engine which is better than any direct injection engine for reliability IMO. Why reinvent the wheel when you dont have to unless its a better yet less expensive part. I respect Hyundai/Kia more than any other car maker( 2nd to Tesla of course). Id buy a HYUNDAI EV over any VW, GM, or FORD
Thanks Sandy for your insights on what we call the e-Niro here in Europe. I got mine in March 2019, one of the first 'off the boat' in France. The car attracts no attention, which is how we like it!...but we do get some strange looks when manoeuvring at low speed in supermarket car parks due to its 'space invader' artificial sound
I kinda got the impression that Sandy was “damning with faint praise”. . . especially a nice 90s car. . .
Car maybe expensive but it offers 7 years warranty in Europa. Others only 2 years. Great video hope to see more in depth of the battery and the electric motor.
Once again Thank you Sandy, sometimes expressing your true views does open the eyes of unbeliever's as to what is really going on in the world. We definitely do need more people that are ready to stand for what the right thing to do are such as yourself.. It gives presence and validity to open the people's mindset that they may have fallen prey to.
I sincerely do hope that your new found successes continue to emblazon you to continue to fight the good fight and to live long and prosper. BRAVO Sir, signed off as a dedicated fan from Canada...
I guess how he pronounces Niro is going to be a hill he wants to die on.
Bruh, they kept calling it N-eye-ro at the dealership. I'm like, Google it, it's N-ear-o. 😮💨
This is what I like to see. Just going through a car and taking about it 🌈
Munro should try out the Comma Three on the Kia vs. the stock ADAS
It’s Knee-Roh. And I’m hardly an old person, sold my Model 3 and picked one of these up as a lease for $314/mo. It is the most underrated EV available out there. Gets many more miles than the advertised range, its super quiet and confortable. No it is not as “cool” as a Tesla, but man it’s very nice if you can get a deal on it.
Sandy explained previously it is effectively a joke to say “nigh row” instead of the sound of “Nero” to avoid invoking the name of the Roman empower who allegedly played his fiddle while Rome burned. It is a not so subtle jab at the problems Kia and gm have been having with their volatile EV batteries. And yes, I drive a 2017 Chevy Bolt.
Damned with faint praise !
Nice
that's a real knife!
How often do you use a knife? I am 63 if i carried one around for 50 years maybe use 50 times, it like using too many screws, not needed.. then again if I lived in Detroit burbs
The hole left from the friction stir tool is where the tool is retracted at the end of the weld, not where the tool plunges in the beginning of the weld. And the other welds look like mig welds too me 🤷. Interseting that the outer fsw holes were mig welded shut but not the inner holes on the battery pack. Maybe dissimilar aluminum where the fsw is performed?
would be interesting to see the impact performance of the BEV vs hybrid vs ICE Niros
Foregone conclusion...
Niros do not have an ICE only configuration in the states the rest of the world I’m not sure. they only come in Hybrid/ plug in / and full EV
good use for Kia.
Спасибо, очень интересно, что внутри и как это сделано. Жду появления электрических машин на наших дорогах, а главное в продаже!
Sandy carries a knife at all times because he's a cut above the rest.
It's to tear engineers a new hole with his videos
sandy for president
0:28 haahaa that's expression!! perfectly old people car 😂
Nissan leaf has AC compressor on the motor too, from 2012 by the way
this thing's a snoozefest, but i see several of them in my neighborhood, seems fairly popular. different strokes i guess
That black vinyl on the sides of the battery pack might be cosmetic. Perhaps the battery can be seen from the side and silver would stand out? Just a guess.
I'm surprised by how little protection there is for the battery cabling at the front of the battery. The little hatch has protection to stop impact damage on the bolt heads, but the cabling seems very open (unless a shield has already been removed?)
I noticed that, too.
There is normally a cover there to protect those
I think Munro removed the shield. I have a kia Sorento the under shield is enormous, I have to remove it every time I change the oil. Super annoying.
There is a plastic cover over the whole underside
That's why this is an "under the cover" footage :)
THANKSGIVING
does the vinyl on the underside that runs along side of battery have any sort of texture? I am wodering if it somehow has groves or pattern to redirect rocks/debris toward the outside of the car so it will drop out and away onto roadway vs flying directly toward the rear
Looking forward examination of new Kia released vehicle EV6 sometime.. comparing with Niro would be interesting.
Maybe it's a 90's car on the way the things are designed, but the Kia eNiro/Hyundai Kona shows really impressive efficiency figures, even if it's not a dedicated pure-EV platform. So their electrical powertrain should be quite good.
They're efficient because they're small. You can see it decrease as you go from to ioniq to the Kona to the Niro.
"A well designed 90's car"... guess you finally nailed the Pony, Hyundai / KIA! 😂😂😂
Great '90's car, says such a lot! Thank you Sandy for giving us this insight, something I would never have been able to know.
Glad you enjoyed it
I have a swiss army knife in my pocket all the time, use it a lot! the most I use it for is to open beer bottles, but the screw driver(s), scissor, knife(s) come in handy now and then too..
But I agree, if you have a swiss army knife that is too thick with too many features, it loses its versatility, because the thick knife prevents you from using the tools properly.
Btw, this whole car starts to turn out to be a perfectly designed 90's car LOL!, old does not always mean bad! often in means better!! (read: more durable!)
Nice review as always :-)
Same here, beer bottle opener gets used the most. Agree with Sandy,mine is just the blade and opener.
Thanks Sandy again for a great video and your continuing design education you are giving us.
Thanks for watching!
Ev motor up front gives more weight and pull for winter and wet conditions like front wheel drive. Hatchback should be more room.
other than, thanks for sharing, I've nothing really to say, but I appreciate that YT likes to 'see' comments. Thanks for sharing
I appreciate that!
thank you for these great analysis. can you please do the Hyundai Kona undercarriage review for comparison?
Sandy is a blade man, he'll cutcha!
looks better than the Tesla Y
I'm glad they're look at the Niro EV. I have this car and I came from a Tesla Model 3 SR+. It's nearly as efficient as the Model 3 SR+ but it's got a bigger battery and a less aerodynamic design. I was hoping for some insight as to how they made such an efficient car.
I see why you'd call in at old person car. Feels like it's got no frills and a softer ride than the Model 3. I'm hauling around both my young daughters most of the time and I'm pretty happy with it.
Might get an Ioniq 5 for a bigger car, the faster charging, AWD, and towing though.
Yup, I agree with all that. And also the Niro has real dials and controls on the dashboard... pretty sweet.
You are saying the Niro has a Bigger battery and less Aerodynamics but that its more efficient then the M3?
@@williambricker5988 I'm not saying that. "Nearly as efficient," is what I wrote. It's less efficient than a Model 3, but it's really close.
I’m confused why the bigger battery is a positive to you. You should want as small of a battery as possible while still getting the longest range. All batteries do are add cost and unnecessary weight. People should be aiming for increasing efficiency and range while keeping batteries small. Maybe in the future when batteries are cheaper, but for now I’d much prefer a car with a small battery then one with a larger battery and the same range.
@@philorgneopolotin8762 I mention the larger heavy battery as something that's works against efficiency. Despite that it is still nearly as efficient as the smaller battery in Model 3 SR+.
Yea a smaller battery in size and weight is desirable to help efficiency. I appreciate that the capacity is 25% greater in the Niro EV than the SR+. 64 kWh vs 50 kWh. I do a 220 mile roundtrip highway drive to my sister's house twice a month. The SR+ requires a charge stop and the Niro EV doesn't. That's 24 less charging stops in a year.
Ask them to give you an Ioniq 5 to tare down! I would love to hear about the 800 volt architecture
A well designed 90’s car?!? I wonder if the EV6 is built like this? The eNiro is a great car 👍