Gas Magazine Guide: Valve Types Explained!
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- čas přidán 4. 04. 2023
- In this video, the differences between single and dual-stage valves will be explained, and also you will find the most common troubleshooting tips when it comes to magazines and how to use them correctly.
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There are also "dual stage" inlet valves, that use extended tubes to stop it from filling past the ideal amount (TM uses these). Once you see liquid gas spewing out the top you know they are full.
he mentioned dual stage around 5:30
my guy this is half of the video
@@cillblinton8181Maybe I wasn't clear, @123456kiste's comment does a better job of explaining. I am talking about the silver extended tube "limitation Tube" that shrouds around the inlet valve and works like a siphon to ensure the mag isn't filled past the ideal point. MWS mags have these and they are great. I have had no issues are overfilling it even in winter with ice-cold mags and a warm bottle.
Really is this true so thas that mean that I don't hafto like do it for for seconds or what
I always love venting valvs ((or 2 stage valves as you call it)
instead of feeling the temperature of the magazine with your mag there is a technical way to get the correct gas/liquid ratio:
LIMITATION TUBE
Especially TM GBBs are known for venting valves. If you fill them until the valve spills liquid gas the magazine will be full without spitting liquid gas if you shoot your gun.
The limitation pipe inside prevents the magazine to get filled 100%. So with a limitation pipe inside you will ALWAYS get the correct amount of liquid/already vaporized gas inside the mag
14 years in Airsoft and still things to learn. thanks :)
Thanks! Very good Info. I've been overfilling all my mags, The see through cylinder really help a lot to visualize it!
I thought this would be another "your pulling the trigger wrong" but this video is definitely warranted
We need spring sales so we can go on shopping spring Novritch,we are counting on you.
The last sale was a rip-off sadly.
It was just for starters and you had to get bundles. I hope the next sale won’t be bundle stuff. Just a little bit off lower prices in general.
Josef, perfect explanation as always👍 thank You👍
Glad you liked it!
According to their website here are all the pistols valves configuration:
SSP1 and SSP5 (same magazine): 1-stage
SSP2: 2-stage
SSX23: 1-stage
SSP18: 1-stage
Does the ssp2 mag has a O ring?
Great video, expecially the transparent tank. Thanks for explanation!
Thank you for all the info, I may have to watch this a few times to get it all.
It is noticeable that the followers do not know anything about airsoft, that has explained what the Marui chargers have before he played, all his life, now they seem to be creating everything haa
damn wish I new about this when I started airsoft thanks for the vid
It is noticeable that the followers do not know anything about airsoft, that has explained what the Marui chargers have before he played, all his life, now they seem to be creating everything haa
Very informative video. Many thanks
It is noticeable that the followers do not know anything about airsoft, that has explained what the Marui chargers have before he played, all his life, now they seem to be creating everything haa
finally some actual information on this topic
I got one mag with my GBB pistol that acts like the 1 stage valve you showed, no matter how long I hold the gas bottle, nothing happens. Then I got two more mags from a different manufacturer but for the same gun (I know, very smart) and both act like the 2 stage valve, and I thought I was just dumb and that maybe there's different types of nozzles or something..
I was also filling them until liquid gas started coming out the top, I will try your method from now on
really good video!
Hello NOVRITSCH.
Very good Info.
It is noticeable that the followers do not know anything about airsoft, that has explained what the Marui chargers have before he played, all his life, now they seem to be creating everything haa
Loving the choice of gas 😎 Next video on types of gas? We've got some new ones that you could test 😏 -JB
Fantastic vídeo, thanks you !
I actually take a portable weight scale with me to the field and I know how much my mags weight when full or empty. I do very little refilling in a game day.
thats interesting, can you tell more about it, what guns are you using and what brand? greetings :)
Very good info thanks guys!
Our pleasure!
Very helpful thank you
I was wondering why my mags were 'leaking' when I tried to fill them, and why they wouldn't fill when i put the maple leaf inlet rings on them. They're dual stage, just tried filling one without the o ring and it worked amazingly. Thank you so much omg!
Thank you so much for this video it covers so many of the problems I’ve been experiencing.
This is a very well presented video without being to complex, and now I understand the difference between the two.
Danke schön
Good to know! Thanks!
THANK YOU 🙏
would you be able to do a similar style video for exit valves? My co2 mags are leaking out the top but i keep them lubricated.
Konečne mi to niekto vysvetlil! 🙂
thank you.
Oh my oh my how wrong was I thank you for making this vid I actually thought something was wrong with my ssp2
couple of questions if I have a single stage valve could I valve swap or should I look at a new mag? Are there any tips for the release valve? Maybe a vid on mag maintenance? Thanks for the tips
Im pretty sure ur fine just swapping the valve
you can swap valves easily, you just need the correct thread on the new valve.
if you are using VFC/WE/KJW magazines you can change the filling valves for ICS REVO valves which have the 2-stage feature
@@123456kiste Thank you, was looking for that :D
when if there is a plastic outer shell, will i feel it just as eazy or do i have to time it withc experience?
@novritsch ...why u dont insert a lcd thermometer on the magazine ...may you see the change of temperature and so charging correctly ?
I enjoy learning about airsoft stuff but I have cold hands so this is a matter of using a different strategy?
Any idea if WE glock 17 mag is Single or Dual stage guys? tks
Just a thought on the 2 stage valves
Couldn't you solve the overfilling issue by moving that hole 5-10mm lower, so then when liquid gas shoots out that's the signal to stop filling
@@TheUnamedPerson I think ICS has made one the Revo system if I remember correctly
It's not that easy when we talk mass production but we are working on it.
In the meantime, this video is meant to educate overall, no matter the brand or replica so I hope it helped!
@@airsoft-explained-novritsch ye it did I've definitely been overfilling my 2 stage valves
all you need is a limitation pipe inside of the magazine which covers the valve.
TM magazines have them so they will always get the correct vaporized/liquid gas ratio if you fill the mag until liquid gas comnes through the venting valve… ALWAYS
All my TM mags spit gas whenever I try to fill them. Don't know what I'm doing wrong any advice on how to fill TM mags please?
Real rifles should have a second module where you can put cold gas in a cool down the barell
Hi, I live in a hot climate, which type of magazine is best, Co2 or Green Gas.
green gas.
CO2 will f*ck up your GBB cuz of much higher pressure
josef where did you get these 2 stage valves?
It is noticeable that the followers do not know anything about airsoft, that has explained what the Marui chargers have before he played, all his life, now they seem to be creating everything haa
Why are there no V2 mags for the SSP18 ?
People that have problem 1 might also need to purge their mags or is this incorrect?
what type of valve has ssp 1?
We own valves they are to my go no overfill and is single but i get amlost 3 maggs out of it with that exact gas in 1,1j cqb on 0.30 runs great. i live in sub arctic enviorment so like 2-3 moutht max i can run anything gas then after is to cold. rest of year spring or aeg most of winter is -15 to almost -40 and then is to cold even for aeg XD
I have issues with propane. When fill in propane I get instant cool downs. Even with single stage valve
do you use a refillable propane setup?
@@123456kiste
Yes I do. I use normal liquid propane I fill myself, but I think I found the problem. I didn’t quite fill it right. I just figured it out when my propane bottle ran out. I can give an update next week
Mám úplne novú SSP2, po 5 výstreloch, vysyčal plyn zo zásobníka. Pri pokuse o naplnenie, vychádza plyn cez výpustný ventil von. Výpustný ventil sa nedá zatlačiť (pravdepodobne sa zaseok). Mal som zbraň od WE, ako aj KWC a chcel som konečne niečo čo vydrží dlhšie ako 2 roky, preto som fakt sklamaný z toho čo sa stalo s mojou SSP2. Otázka je, či bude výstupný ventil pasovať aj od iných výrobcov. Ale asi bude lepšie reklamovať.
Its a two minutes video you made into 13:51 🎉
soooo i suppose a side feeding sten mag is just doomed to always shoot liquid haha
The ammount of miss information in the video is quite staggering 😢
Hey novritsch
Yikes imagine not knowing you can use propane by just putting a little bit of lubricant in it and save tons of money 😬
Bullshit.
The reason why the magazine with the "2 stage valve" fills to the top is the limiter tube. The length of the limiter tube prevents overfilling.
The Marui M4 MWS have a LONG limiter tube with a 2 stage valve and the magazines only ever fill to half way. This is why if you want to hold more gas you cut the limiter tube.
Slyšim tu českou angličtinu
Damn i hate gas, hpa is the way
Hpa is Litteraly gaz