I like the EV tractor and I believe once more of them are out there . And more people see them in action ,in person more will buy them. Lots of people are afraid of change.
@@ThisisMindoMint Cybertruck was 3x cost of Solectrac e25G, and is not even that good of a truck (no hate, I'm positive on what I've seen and heard but it really is only a luxury powersports toy). Rivian is... really nice but equally unattainable for comparison. 100% would buy Aptera 3-wheel vehicle _instead_ of truck or tractor because you could run it for free in energy costs and park in motorcycle parking at a truck rental place and rent a tractor. Neither EV truck nor EV tractor are priced anywhere near close to reasonable. I use the e25G mostly for short length forklift picks and occasionally backblade with the bucket, but the company is defunct and I'm still into the loan for $25k which is ridiculous for how cheaply made and basic as the whole thing is (even if the company wasn't defunct).
I would like to see the runtimes on hilly property we have here in Georgia. I think it great for barns and places where you don't want exhaust fumes. I like the idea of using it for free by charging it with your off grid setup. Tractors are here to help us get things done quicker. Batteries have come a long way just from 5 to 10 years ago.
I have a 24hp Yanmar, which is great. I'd love to have an electric tractor for ease of use, quietness, and low maintenance. We also own a lited Tesla Model Y, which we use to tow stuff to our off grid property. I'm 55 years old and have owned gas, diesel, CNG, and now electric vehicles. Its a good time to be alive with so many options.
it is nice. especially when so many garden tractors barely use their horsepower for longer than a few minutes. maybe a couple hours if doing the mowing style work.
I like it. I hope its an LiFe battery (lithium iron) they are heavier than li ion but more energy dense than lead acid. A heavy tractor isnt a bad thing and the battery is more affordable, a lot of stationary batteries are LiFe. That being said it would be nice if you cauld use the battery on the tractor to power the house or even just tools and chargers away from the house or barn/shop.
I'm actually intrigued by this tractor. I only have about 1.5 acres mostly wooded and want a small tractor for cleanup and maybe some clearing down the road. Can't make myself spend the money right now but this would totally work for my situation! Would like to see more of it in action
That is some hella good lift capacity for the bucket and three-point. That little tractor is a beast. And . . . no hearing protection!! Run time of 3-6 hr is way more than I need, so battery capacity would be a non-issue. That thing is a winner.
@@TKCL Having an undersized loader (among other factors) is what killed Solectrac - the cheap-o not-made-in-USA loader which Solectrac tried to shuffle off onto the dealers was so weak it would not even lift a bucket of dirt. Hopefully the e25G keeps going for me... also hopeful to see some other real options (not prototype hype) on the market.
I'm sure I will forget and CZcams won't give me a timely reminder but I look forward to seeing the video. For my use case an electric tractor would do everything I need. I do most of my mowing with an electric zero turn, and my brush hogging and dirt work with an old Case 430. But the gas is a pain in the butt and I don't use my tractor for more than 2 hours at a time.
This would be perfect for your scenario, it's nice to hear from the people who see value in this. For me for example, diesel makes far more sense with having so much land and working for hours at a time.
It's about time ! I converted a small Kubota tractor to electric about 7 years ago. It was great, more powerful than the diesel version it once was. I would buy one in a heart beat. Thanks for your report.....
The best feature of this is the fast charger. The other electric tractor, Solectrac, that did the rounds on CZcams a year or so ago takes like almost 6 hours on 220 to get from 20 to 80%, and over 11 hours on 110v. According to the press release the Solis takes 3 to 3.5 hours for 0-100% so you could get 9 hours of heavy work done. 6-9am, charged by noon, 12-3, charged by 6 and use the rest of your daylight. And for me, o have brought a solar generator and 250w solar panel on my log cart on occasion when doing something like electric augering. Depending on the workload i think its possible to do something similar on days when you are out doing something where you have breaks to plug it in. Though thats more of a fun proof of concept than a worthwhile endeavor. I'd love to see a runtime or an acreage brush hogging or finish mowing so it could be compared to an electric zero turn. I have an electric zero turn for the tamed parts of my land and inhave an old gas tractor for the rough bits. Like you said, for you who take proper care of all your acreage you need the nonstop ability of diesel.
@@TKCLthat's fine. I don't want to know the charging speed, just the actual operating time for mowing rough or finish. Mowing is one of the things that is easiest to compare operating costs on electric vs diesel.
a battery electric tractor is neat. for the small garden tractor size it fits really well with how most of them get used. and for those that it doesn't fir they are borderline needing a larger 50-100hp tractor for such tasks. a nearby farm to me has a 100hp bev tractor they are trying out to replace the 100hp diesel they have for around the farm stuff. no row cropping or anything like that. but stuff that doesn't really necessitate a 100hp diesel most of the time.
Normally I'm always adamant that it's diesel all the way but what swayed me was when you stated that it has a better lift capacity on the loader and rear linkage. For me that's a winner! As you always find something that your tractor can't lift and it's frustrating at times. So that sways it for me
Hi, Andrew and Tiffany! You two look right at home driving and using this tractor. I can’t tell you how happy I am for both of you. We’ve got to get Tiffany home.
Informative video. Thanks for posting it. I happen to be the perfect customer for this size EV solution. I have a six-acre wooded lot with a half-acre of lawn and a 185-foot driveway with a 10-degree slope through much of it. I average about 60 hours a year cutting lawn, snow blowing, hauling firewood, and a few other tasks where a large garden tractor or SCUT is the right choice. Currently, I have a JD X585 and look forward to being able to move to an electric equivalent or slightly larger.
You've hit the nail on the head, this is an awesome concept I do believe. No it's not for everyone. But I seen you pick up that log which is very impressive, but will it pickup a fully loaded ibc tote. Depending on how dry and what kind of wood it is my 1025 will sometimes pick them up but really maxes out the machine. Looking forward to seeing more of it.
As I fit into the 1-5 acre category and three hours of run time is plenty, I'd take one home with me! Too bad the price I saw elsewhere was about double that of the diesel Solis which makes it a deal breaker. Now if the guv were to throw in a $10k tax rebate, that would tempt me for sure.
Understand that, I don't have pricing yet. Where did you see it? It's quite common in the equipment industry for electric versions to run almost double the diesel or gas counterpart.
Its nice to see technology always evolving. I think electric tractors still have a long road to go before they can face my harsh Canadian winters. Electric batteries don't do well here when it gets cold, especially; when using implements like snow blowers in deep snow and other types of attachments, It's still incredible to see how far these electric machines have gone in a fairly short time span. Hydrogen and ammonia powered vehicles are also showing lots of promise. Different types of energy for different types of climates. Love your content. Great video. Be Well.
Yes, I totally agree. The day we stop innovating or the day we suppress innovation is the day we end our hopes for the future. I guess innovation is part of our hopes and journey for a better tomorrow. Love your show. Be well.@@TKCL
Here is the trick with these things. What would make me interested with my 7 acres? If it was cheaper? If it was something I had the capability to work on. ( I think they should come with modular parts i.e. Tranny, motor, battery pack, both front and rear diffs). If that thing was a 15k tractor with replaceable "modules" that were affordable... they would take over the small tractor market in a week.
Impossible to be in that price range due to the expense of lithium and batteries in general. FYI this tractor has the exact front and rear diffs, hydraulic systems and maintenance of the diesel version. Your just replacing the engine with the electric motor and battery.
If you're going to have solar and you're always looking to store more energy, it makes sense to store it in occasional use equipment. You store diesel and gas all over the place already. Why not store and use electric power the same way. Battery bank or tractor? Who can say? They're one in the same.
We have a 2 acre rural retirement property and I bought a 1961 Ford tractor to maintain it. Love the old beast but this would be perfect and we could charge it off our solar field. A good heavy battery is perfect for a tractor. The only issue I see is service and maintenance, what happens when there is a 'fault' in the system. Nothing I can't fix on the old Ford, but how user fixable is this going to be?
companies need to redesign these from the ground up before they take over. smooth, sleek design? get rid of it - fit more battery and a larger motor. drop (and protect) the battery down low - lowers the tipping force and increases the weight (two great things on a tractor) dedicate a motor to different hydraulics (or don't) but do something unique with that. 1 motor for hydralics, 1 for PTO, 1 for drive etc. we don't need a constant RPM electric motor when it's not required (see hydraulic pumps for trailers etc, all are electric and all have instant activation) that's just wasting energy use regen for braking when possible
Very interesting concept here. I guess it was just a matter of time before companies started producing EV tractors. It’s not a useful solution for me but I can definitely see the potential need/draw for some users. Thanks for the content!
Same here, I need the power and longer operation of a diesel But...... There's no denying ev is becoming more and more popular, for some this will be the perfect solution for them.
Nice review of the tractor. The Fossil Fuel Vs Electric debate sort of reminds me of back when they tried to convert the US to the metric system. The metric system is nice and has its advantages but the US was ingrained in the Imperial measurement system and the initiative failed. I believe in order for the evolution of alternative fuel vehicles and tractors to really take hold and be a viable option will require some technological advances in energy storage which currently are not commercially available at the present time.
The electric versus fuel powered debate. Lol. Here we go. 😅😂 I love Electric and I would love to have this because I don’t use tractors a lot, and it would do fine for me but the idea that they can replace fuel powered tractors isn’t all that accurate either. It’s just like anything else in these tools. An electric weedeater that I use in love from Milwaukee is awesome but I can do my yard with a couple batteries. If I’m a professional and I’m out there, weed eating I’m gonna buy gas because the electrics just not gonna cut it and tractors and cars for that matter are kind of the same. Electric definitely has its limitations, but the technology is to the point where it’s practical for short term use And they can get enough use out of it now and as far as power goes, electric is great power with tons of torque. I can definitely get the job done. It’s just going to be more expensive and limited, but for small homesteads for the most part, a lot of people would do just fine with an electric tractor. There’s still way too expensive And they need to give you a very long warranty with battery replacement for about 15 years if they’re gonna be charging this much because the problem is your gas version of this tractor in 15 years is it gonna be worth almost what it’s worth now, the electric ones gonna need a very expensive battery that’s gonna cost thousands and thousands of dollars to replace and cost wise. It’s just a whole lot more money. I know you’re saving on fuel costs eventually, you’re still spending that money on the batteries and when it comes time to replace it you’re going to be losing big time. But just like solar it’s not as efficient as a grid power but it serves its place and technically you could run that tractor for free until the battery life cycle is exhausted and you don’t have to drive back-and-forth and deal with buying liquid fuel sources. For some, that’s an awesome thing. I would love to have this electric version, though, because of the economic side of it, I would still probably buy the gas version personally but realistically this would be more than I would ever need, the only exception would be the weather, batteries don’t like cold, and this is probably not gonna be very good for a snow blower and a very cold climate, you might be able to push some snow if you keep it in a heated garage, so your battery is functional when you start but long-term in very cold weather electric car is even don’t work well, cars have electronics that shut them down to protect the battery. Meaning they leave you disabled in freezing conditions, and you would kind of hope the tractor would have the same to protect the battery otherwise you could destroy the battery so for northern climates, it’s probably not gonna be a big seller because it would be Fairweather youth only and tractors are great for moving snow, and the fuel works great in the cold. people just have to understand that they’re different types of tools, and have different applications.
For sure no one is saying electric is replacing diesel, the technology is there. But there's no denying people interest in battery powered, equipment, tools and cars. This is for the homeowner looking for equipment that does not get heavy use and still serves a need.
@@TKCL some people are dumb other people in our government who want to mandate everything be switched over to Electric and we get rid of coal and gas and diesel completely and that would destroy this country.
Having been a dealership technician and having worked on many hybrid cars, my big issue the battery. I have "totaled" many cars due to battery failure and the high cost of a new battery. With a tractors normal life being 30+ years , I can't help but think that many would be totaled only because the normal life span of the battery is comparatively short.
The battery and or replacement a decade or so down the road is something I'm curious about myself. A company could make good money rebuilding or offering obsolete batteries.
I can't find the specs for this tractor, but the solectrac competitor uses modern LiFePO4 (lithium Iron Phosphate) batteries that can handle 10 to 15 years of daily charging and still have less than 20% degradation. Yes, it can happen that a battery malfunctions before then, but in 95% of cases, that would happen within warranty. Then again, many tesla's have been running for 200-300K miles (3000+ cycles) while fast charging and using a less robust NMC lithium-ion battery, and they still have 85%+ capacity. Don't forget that battery management and chemistry have seen some major improvements. That being said, someone who would need a daily charge session or who would need more than 1 charge in a day on a regular basis, should probably go for a gas or diesel tractor. The technique for electric tractors is developing but it is not yet suitable for all applications. The biggest advantage for people who could use these light to occasional medium-use electric tractors would be the savings on fuel costs, especially if, like Andrew, they already have a solar system that would lower their charging costs to close to zero.
That seems like an awesome machine. I love my electric zero turn mower, and I bet this tractor would do everything ol' Charles (Branson) does and would do it quieter and with less aggravation.
what's the run time with a mower deck? like could you mow 2 - 2.5 acres on a single charge? what size mower deck(s) will it take? any idea on the expected MSRP?
Mower decks are not here yet, I'm being told a couple of months. This tractor is set to launch in the USA first quarter next year, the price will be announced then. I do believe that the website (in the description) has an option to request a sales price. I'm doing initial testing ahead of the launch and information.
I don't know if the backhoe will be compatible with this model, feel free to reach out to Solis and ask. Their website is in the video description. I will also ask myself.
Not yet, I was told it will be available with pricing in a couple of months. No idea on the backhoe, the hydraulics (other than the loader) appear to not be as strong as the diesel version. I'm not sure how that would impact the backhoe.
@@TKCL Thanks. Based on your other posts, that's what I expected. I don't have the constant runtime need, so an electric compact (preferably SCUT) with a 4 to 6 hour runtime would be perfect for my needs. I fear the upcharge in cost, though. Everything 'green' cost more including any appliance that is Energy Star rated.
I am not opposed to solar, as one of my small properties runs on solar, but I would have little use for this type of machine even in light duty applications. Run time still not enough and a 17K battery needs a lot of solar to charge it. If you are using grid electric to charge it, you ain't doing the environment or your wallet any favors. I would be interested in run time numbers running any attachment. Cost of the electric variant vs diesel, you could put years of diesel in it. On the positive side, if it were to have bi-directional charging, or an external plug for running other equipment, think battery generator, or a back up to home battery pack, then I might be able to make a case for it. If you are a prepper with money, in a worse case grid down, if your solar still works then you could at least charge it. But then again if you have money you probably have a lot of diesel and propane stored. As I see it right now, it is a very niche machine that makes little sense in most applications. Cool video nonetheless, and the pure geek in me will look forward to additional videos of testing it.
I make it very clear in this video it's not replacing my diesel tractors. I have too much property for electric. However its an interesting concept and one of the perks of my job is being able to test stuff like this.
Tires are not filled, your dealer would need to do that. I believe it can lift a smaller round bale, they come in 3 different sizes around here. Hard to say without trying it in real life. A bale has a lot of forward weight in front of the loader pins.
(haven't finished the video yet) Can it do vehicle to load (V2L) or vehicle to home (V2H)? I could sure use the ability to do 240v or even just 120v while "out back."
If you are referring to the chargers, no. You need to use the supplied charger and can feed it 120 or 240v as it automatically senses and changes charging. 240v is rated at 40 amps.
I believe that would be perfect today. Absolutely zero emission environment such as delicate greenhouses, large aviaries and sensitive indoor wildlife habitats
I am not sure if they give this as a spec, but does it have the same angle capabilities of the diesel model? That battery sits pretty high in the frame, i wonder if it would tip over easier than your other tractor.
I have no idea on that one. I can say this tractor has a very wide stance and tires compared to similar models. I have never felt tipsy out on the trails.
Shocking!! 🙂Seems great for a limited (run time on charge) use tractor. You never mentioned charge amperage. How long, at how many amps max, at 240V? (220V) I'm sure 120V charging would be dumb!!
I use 110v charging now because I'm using my solar system. It's plenty to get it charged during the day or overnight. I don't have enough shop batteries to do consistent night charging.
I have a question, what about winter weather, do they have a system to protect the battery from being damaged in the cold? I imagine most people will not use this tractor much in the winter, so the battery could be damaged just sitting there over winter.
If the battery chemistry is Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiPo4) then the batteries should not be stored for prolonged periods (months) of time over 30-50% SOC. Also temps below freezing is a no go with charging or discharing them below freezing and can damage them and many will have a low temp charging cut off in the BMS. So you would need a heat source in that instance of needing to charge or discharge in low temps. Some say you can store them under freezing, some say not to. But that is an expensive piece of machinery and the battery would be a huge cost if you needed to replace it due to your own neglect.
Big concern will replacement batteries be available in 10 years? How hard is it to remove and replace à battery? They are very heavy and would be charged. I would love to see standardization so it would be easy and give more confidence to users. I hate how every hand tool brand has its own battery. I believe you could make money selling adapters for them. .
No need in getting so upset. I'm not trying to sell you one and I clearly talk about the limitations. It's a tool plain and simple. It has its strength and weaknesses just like a diesel, gas, corded tools, battery tools ect.
just like cars and trucks ev tractors are in their infancy there WILL be problems, i think in the future better bigger batteries will help move them into larger scale ag enterprises , i can see feedlots, chicken operations using them right now something like New Holands bidirectional tractor would be a great platform for all electric , as you said NOT for eveyone BUT i would have one on my farm if i had the money bet your wife loves it little to no noise!!!!!! have you tried it on a log splitter or the chipper????
Anything you said anything yes I want to see what's the biggest mower that you can put all the three point realistically I'd be like 16 ft batwing okay I know it's not going to do that what do you handle a 5 ft or a 6-foot Rush hog
Don't know, I'm testing this before it's released in a couple of months. Website is in the video description, they have a quote section and contact form. Maybe they will quote you before the release.
I can remember back when a flying car was what everyone wanted now its been replaced by ev mania! The realistic market for this tractor is so narrow I'm surprised that this company thinks this can succeed. Just curious about if there is a tie in for your phone for this tractor?
It's for sure a very small market, who knows how big it is. I would have never thought electric cars would be as popular as they are. Equipment makes more sense to me. It's not new either, we've been using electric equipment for decades in warehouses and plants all over the world.
im not gonna knock! alot of people are gonna have to get used to it! the only down fall is the power grids in the US are degradeing and line power is gonna take the blunt force! we cant just rely on total electric!
It is listed as a premier now, but it was unlisted and somehow Adam was able to view it. 🤔 I'm going to try a premier on Sunday and interact with everyone.
Everyone jumping on this electric stuff. The production of batteries and the effects on the planet are far worse then the production of diesel fuel. But people will still argue that.
Your trying to make something political here and I'm not. It's a battery powered tool, simple as that. If you truly believe the lithium batteries are that bad, are you getting rid of your cell phones, laptops, tablets, ear buds, battery powered tools, medical equipment etc. The list goes on and on, we all support it whether we realize it or not.
@TKCL i hear ya Bud, not trying to say all batteries are bad, exct. Just the push for ev's and such are going to be a problem in the future as far as environmental issues. But anyway, its a cool little tractor. 👍
Thank you all for watching the Premier and using the live chat feature!
glad i could be a part of it for the second time😊 see you on the live!
I hate that it cut the live off, having never used a premier before I had no idea how long the live chat would stay active.
@@TKCL it does that with the live too! once it done its over in minutes!
I like the EV tractor and I believe once more of them are out there . And more people see them in action ,in person more will buy them. Lots of people are afraid of change.
Yes a lot of people are, there's no denying batter technology is quickly improving.
This is the worst decision to make. Buy an electric tractor or truck. LOL just standby and wait. I cannot wait.
@@ThisisMindoMint Cybertruck was 3x cost of Solectrac e25G, and is not even that good of a truck (no hate, I'm positive on what I've seen and heard but it really is only a luxury powersports toy). Rivian is... really nice but equally unattainable for comparison. 100% would buy Aptera 3-wheel vehicle _instead_ of truck or tractor because you could run it for free in energy costs and park in motorcycle parking at a truck rental place and rent a tractor. Neither EV truck nor EV tractor are priced anywhere near close to reasonable. I use the e25G mostly for short length forklift picks and occasionally backblade with the bucket, but the company is defunct and I'm still into the loan for $25k which is ridiculous for how cheaply made and basic as the whole thing is (even if the company wasn't defunct).
I would like to see the runtimes on hilly property we have here in Georgia. I think it great for barns and places where you don't want exhaust fumes. I like the idea of using it for free by charging it with your off grid setup. Tractors are here to help us get things done quicker. Batteries have come a long way just from 5 to 10 years ago.
I have a 24hp Yanmar, which is great. I'd love to have an electric tractor for ease of use, quietness, and low maintenance. We also own a lited Tesla Model Y, which we use to tow stuff to our off grid property. I'm 55 years old and have owned gas, diesel, CNG, and now electric vehicles. Its a good time to be alive with so many options.
It is, many others hate change. I embrace it whether it is for me or not. It creates improvements across the board.
it is nice. especially when so many garden tractors barely use their horsepower for longer than a few minutes. maybe a couple hours if doing the mowing style work.
Im working this weekend but will check out the replay that evening hopefully! Very cool!
Should be interesting 😬
Mr Doug hope work goes by fast for you. Have blessed Sunday
I like it. I hope its an LiFe battery (lithium iron) they are heavier than li ion but more energy dense than lead acid. A heavy tractor isnt a bad thing and the battery is more affordable, a lot of stationary batteries are LiFe. That being said it would be nice if you cauld use the battery on the tractor to power the house or even just tools and chargers away from the house or barn/shop.
Spec sheet shows ion chemistry. An inverter to use the battery would be interesting.
I'm actually intrigued by this tractor. I only have about 1.5 acres mostly wooded and want a small tractor for cleanup and maybe some clearing down the road. Can't make myself spend the money right now but this would totally work for my situation! Would like to see more of it in action
Videos coming soon
@@TKCL can't wait!
I think that would be ideal for cleaning barn stalls out like you said there is a place for it to be used
Or in a warehouse, shop ect. No emissions is appealing to some.
That is some hella good lift capacity for the bucket and three-point. That little tractor is a beast. And . . . no hearing protection!!
Run time of 3-6 hr is way more than I need, so battery capacity would be a non-issue. That thing is a winner.
The loader was very impressive
@@TKCL Having an undersized loader (among other factors) is what killed Solectrac - the cheap-o not-made-in-USA loader which Solectrac tried to shuffle off onto the dealers was so weak it would not even lift a bucket of dirt. Hopefully the e25G keeps going for me... also hopeful to see some other real options (not prototype hype) on the market.
I'm sure I will forget and CZcams won't give me a timely reminder but I look forward to seeing the video. For my use case an electric tractor would do everything I need. I do most of my mowing with an electric zero turn, and my brush hogging and dirt work with an old Case 430. But the gas is a pain in the butt and I don't use my tractor for more than 2 hours at a time.
This would be perfect for your scenario, it's nice to hear from the people who see value in this. For me for example, diesel makes far more sense with having so much land and working for hours at a time.
Can't wait to see this one.
It's going to be interesting 😬
Our first ever premiere! Looking forward to watching this reveal with you on Sunday and answering your questions live.
Wow I kind of feel special!
@AdamDeal you're very special 😉🤣
@@TKCL I guess so if I was the very first person to view it!
It's about time ! I converted a small Kubota tractor to electric about 7 years ago. It was great, more powerful than the diesel version it once was. I would buy one in a heart beat. Thanks for your report.....
Cool. I could see it working great for a few acres of land. Very versatile.
Great video Andrew! I think you nailed it! Not for everyone but you are currently testing a futuristic tractor, how cool is that!
It is cool!
The best feature of this is the fast charger. The other electric tractor, Solectrac, that did the rounds on CZcams a year or so ago takes like almost 6 hours on 220 to get from 20 to 80%, and over 11 hours on 110v. According to the press release the Solis takes 3 to 3.5 hours for 0-100% so you could get 9 hours of heavy work done. 6-9am, charged by noon, 12-3, charged by 6 and use the rest of your daylight. And for me, o have brought a solar generator and 250w solar panel on my log cart on occasion when doing something like electric augering. Depending on the workload i think its possible to do something similar on days when you are out doing something where you have breaks to plug it in. Though thats more of a fun proof of concept than a worthwhile endeavor.
I'd love to see a runtime or an acreage brush hogging or finish mowing so it could be compared to an electric zero turn. I have an electric zero turn for the tamed parts of my land and inhave an old gas tractor for the rough bits. Like you said, for you who take proper care of all your acreage you need the nonstop ability of diesel.
Sadly I don't have the speed charger to test. I am using it as normal and paying attention to the runtime and abilities of it.
@@TKCLthat's fine. I don't want to know the charging speed, just the actual operating time for mowing rough or finish. Mowing is one of the things that is easiest to compare operating costs on electric vs diesel.
Thanks, it's the future.
Love the electric tractor and making your own fuel!
Thank you for watching
a battery electric tractor is neat. for the small garden tractor size it fits really well with how most of them get used. and for those that it doesn't fir they are borderline needing a larger 50-100hp tractor for such tasks. a nearby farm to me has a 100hp bev tractor they are trying out to replace the 100hp diesel they have for around the farm stuff. no row cropping or anything like that. but stuff that doesn't really necessitate a 100hp diesel most of the time.
Just requested a quote. We'll see how this goes and how much it costs. Thanks for another great video.
I'm curious about final cost myself. More tests and videos coming soon.
Can you share the quote, many would be interested?
@@RPRosen-ki2fk unfortunately, I never received a response.🤷♂️
I want one...no idea what I'd do with it but I'd like one!! See everyone on the live tonight at 5pm EST!
you could move some snow with it!
The idea of charging your tractor off your own solar array one day sounds awesome. Talk about independence and storm preparedness!
It is a neat concept
Normally I'm always adamant that it's diesel all the way but what swayed me was when you stated that it has a better lift capacity on the loader and rear linkage. For me that's a winner! As you always find something that your tractor can't lift and it's frustrating at times. So that sways it for me
The lift capacity of this was by far the most impressive thing.
Hi, Andrew and Tiffany! You two look right at home driving and using this tractor. I can’t tell you how happy I am for both of you. We’ve got to get Tiffany home.
Thank you for watching
having fun with a electric tractor. to enjoy a charge in life. be bless.
Informative video. Thanks for posting it. I happen to be the perfect customer for this size EV solution. I have a six-acre wooded lot with a half-acre of lawn and a 185-foot driveway with a 10-degree slope through much of it. I average about 60 hours a year cutting lawn, snow blowing, hauling firewood, and a few other tasks where a large garden tractor or SCUT is the right choice. Currently, I have a JD X585 and look forward to being able to move to an electric equivalent or slightly larger.
I can't wait to see this video i don't like anything battery and i know if you test it you will almost brake it to see how good it really is
I've already been doing normal daily work from planting food plots, lifting very heavy logs, brush cleanup ect.
You've hit the nail on the head, this is an awesome concept I do believe. No it's not for everyone. But I seen you pick up that log which is very impressive, but will it pickup a fully loaded ibc tote. Depending on how dry and what kind of wood it is my 1025 will sometimes pick them up but really maxes out the machine. Looking forward to seeing more of it.
Technically no it shouldn't be able to lift a tote af green firewood looking at the numbers. But I'll be trying it anyways to see.
I wonder how it compares to a solectrac tractor. It would be cool to see a side by side comparison of those two.
Curious myself, I've never driven one to know the differences.
Great introduction of the tractor. Thanks for making this video!
Glad you liked it!
As I fit into the 1-5 acre category and three hours of run time is plenty, I'd take one home with me! Too bad the price I saw elsewhere was about double that of the diesel Solis which makes it a deal breaker. Now if the guv were to throw in a $10k tax rebate, that would tempt me for sure.
Understand that, I don't have pricing yet. Where did you see it? It's quite common in the equipment industry for electric versions to run almost double the diesel or gas counterpart.
I love it!
Its nice to see technology always evolving. I think electric tractors still have a long road to go before they can face my harsh Canadian winters. Electric batteries don't do well here when it gets cold, especially; when using implements like snow blowers in deep snow and other types of attachments, It's still incredible to see how far these electric machines have gone in a fairly short time span. Hydrogen and ammonia powered vehicles are also showing lots of promise. Different types of energy for different types of climates. Love your content. Great video. Be Well.
I think competition and constant reinventing the wheel so to speak is a good thing. It's what we as humans have done for a long time.
Yes, I totally agree. The day we stop innovating or the day we suppress innovation is the day we end our hopes for the future. I guess innovation is part of our hopes and journey for a better tomorrow. Love your show. Be well.@@TKCL
Here is the trick with these things. What would make me interested with my 7 acres? If it was cheaper? If it was something I had the capability to work on. ( I think they should come with modular parts i.e. Tranny, motor, battery pack, both front and rear diffs). If that thing was a 15k tractor with replaceable "modules" that were affordable... they would take over the small tractor market in a week.
Impossible to be in that price range due to the expense of lithium and batteries in general. FYI this tractor has the exact front and rear diffs, hydraulic systems and maintenance of the diesel version. Your just replacing the engine with the electric motor and battery.
Definitely is a cool machine. Love how quite it is. Has its place for sure. Diesel for me on a tractor though
Diesel for me too, 50 acres requires it.
Cool tractor! I run an oyster farm and would love to have something like this around the shop to move cages and equipment around!!
Nice! This the season for oysters!
Pretty cool.
Interesting to see where technology is going.
I hope that John Deere gets an electric into the market soon. I’d like to see American technology in the lead on this.
They say they will by 2026. Seems they could have been quicker.
Interesting machine, Andrew. Binging your channel a bit tonight 😄
this is a bit big for my needs but if they ever make an electric walk behind tractor, I'm willing to pay for shipping all the way to canada
If you're going to have solar and you're always looking to store more energy, it makes sense to store it in occasional use equipment. You store diesel and gas all over the place already. Why not store and use electric power the same way. Battery bank or tractor? Who can say? They're one in the same.
Very true
Great video. Thanks for sharing. 🤠
We have a 2 acre rural retirement property and I bought a 1961 Ford tractor to maintain it. Love the old beast but this would be perfect and we could charge it off our solar field. A good heavy battery is perfect for a tractor. The only issue I see is service and maintenance, what happens when there is a 'fault' in the system. Nothing I can't fix on the old Ford, but how user fixable is this going to be?
That's tough to say, most likely it will need a trip to the dealership.
companies need to redesign these from the ground up before they take over.
smooth, sleek design? get rid of it - fit more battery and a larger motor.
drop (and protect) the battery down low - lowers the tipping force and increases the weight (two great things on a tractor)
dedicate a motor to different hydraulics (or don't) but do something unique with that. 1 motor for hydralics, 1 for PTO, 1 for drive etc.
we don't need a constant RPM electric motor when it's not required (see hydraulic pumps for trailers etc, all are electric and all have instant activation) that's just wasting energy
use regen for braking when possible
I would actually like a gasoline powered tractor. I know that sounds odd, but it is the only machine i have and likly to have that uses diesel.
Those use to be popular decades ago. I not sure anyone makes them new anymore.
This will be interesting. Looking forward to seeing you do a review.
Interesting for sure!
Very interesting concept here. I guess it was just a matter of time before companies started producing EV tractors. It’s not a useful solution for me but I can definitely see the potential need/draw for some users. Thanks for the content!
Same here, I need the power and longer operation of a diesel
But...... There's no denying ev is becoming more and more popular, for some this will be the perfect solution for them.
Diesel vs electric tractor pull, head to head.
Thank you for the info.
Thank you for watching
I'd be interested to see a snow blower operation.
No snow here in Florida, maybe someone else can test that.
Let's see it run the wood chipper
My guess is that it won't start that beast.
Looks awesome
It does look sharp!
Nice review of the tractor. The Fossil Fuel Vs Electric debate sort of reminds me of back when they tried to convert the US to the metric system. The metric system is nice and has its advantages but the US was ingrained in the Imperial measurement system and the initiative failed. I believe in order for the evolution of alternative fuel vehicles and tractors to really take hold and be a viable option will require some technological advances in energy storage which currently are not commercially available at the present time.
I agree.
You and Tiffany
Diesel versus Electric
Tug of War
Winner must drag or spin out the looses wheels!😂
Don't think the company would appreciate me doing that 🤣
The electric versus fuel powered debate. Lol. Here we go. 😅😂
I love Electric and I would love to have this because I don’t use tractors a lot, and it would do fine for me but the idea that they can replace fuel powered tractors isn’t all that accurate either. It’s just like anything else in these tools. An electric weedeater that I use in love from Milwaukee is awesome but I can do my yard with a couple batteries. If I’m a professional and I’m out there, weed eating I’m gonna buy gas because the electrics just not gonna cut it and tractors and cars for that matter are kind of the same. Electric definitely has its limitations, but the technology is to the point where it’s practical for short term use And they can get enough use out of it now and as far as power goes, electric is great power with tons of torque. I can definitely get the job done. It’s just going to be more expensive and limited, but for small homesteads for the most part, a lot of people would do just fine with an electric tractor. There’s still way too expensive And they need to give you a very long warranty with battery replacement for about 15 years if they’re gonna be charging this much because the problem is your gas version of this tractor in 15 years is it gonna be worth almost what it’s worth now, the electric ones gonna need a very expensive battery that’s gonna cost thousands and thousands of dollars to replace and cost wise. It’s just a whole lot more money. I know you’re saving on fuel costs eventually, you’re still spending that money on the batteries and when it comes time to replace it you’re going to be losing big time. But just like solar it’s not as efficient as a grid power but it serves its place and technically you could run that tractor for free until the battery life cycle is exhausted and you don’t have to drive back-and-forth and deal with buying liquid fuel sources. For some, that’s an awesome thing. I would love to have this electric version, though, because of the economic side of it, I would still probably buy the gas version personally but realistically this would be more than I would ever need, the only exception would be the weather, batteries don’t like cold, and this is probably not gonna be very good for a snow blower and a very cold climate, you might be able to push some snow if you keep it in a heated garage, so your battery is functional when you start but long-term in very cold weather electric car is even don’t work well, cars have electronics that shut them down to protect the battery. Meaning they leave you disabled in freezing conditions, and you would kind of hope the tractor would have the same to protect the battery otherwise you could destroy the battery so for northern climates, it’s probably not gonna be a big seller because it would be Fairweather youth only and tractors are great for moving snow, and the fuel works great in the cold. people just have to understand that they’re different types of tools, and have different applications.
For sure no one is saying electric is replacing diesel, the technology is there. But there's no denying people interest in battery powered, equipment, tools and cars. This is for the homeowner looking for equipment that does not get heavy use and still serves a need.
@@TKCL some people are dumb other people in our government who want to mandate everything be switched over to Electric and we get rid of coal and gas and diesel completely and that would destroy this country.
Would be a great piece of yard art
Nice review...very informative.
It's interesting! Thanks for watching.
Having been a dealership technician and having worked on many hybrid cars, my big issue the battery. I have "totaled" many cars due to battery failure and the high cost of a new battery. With a tractors normal life being 30+ years , I can't help but think that many would be totaled only because the normal life span of the battery is comparatively short.
The battery and or replacement a decade or so down the road is something I'm curious about myself. A company could make good money rebuilding or offering obsolete batteries.
I can't find the specs for this tractor, but the solectrac competitor uses modern LiFePO4 (lithium Iron Phosphate) batteries that can handle 10 to 15 years of daily charging and still have less than 20% degradation. Yes, it can happen that a battery malfunctions before then, but in 95% of cases, that would happen within warranty. Then again, many tesla's have been running for 200-300K miles (3000+ cycles) while fast charging and using a less robust NMC lithium-ion battery, and they still have 85%+ capacity. Don't forget that battery management and chemistry have seen some major improvements.
That being said, someone who would need a daily charge session or who would need more than 1 charge in a day on a regular basis, should probably go for a gas or diesel tractor. The technique for electric tractors is developing but it is not yet suitable for all applications.
The biggest advantage for people who could use these light to occasional medium-use electric tractors would be the savings on fuel costs, especially if, like Andrew, they already have a solar system that would lower their charging costs to close to zero.
So you're keeping the promise:)))
I told you 😉
Andrew put your mower on it and see how well it mows and how long it lasts
I have a flail I'll be trying.
Another 10 years and internal combustion will be in history books. Ugh the maintenance that came with that technology was ridiculous.
Will be far longer than that before they are replaced.
That seems like an awesome machine. I love my electric zero turn mower, and I bet this tractor would do everything ol' Charles (Branson) does and would do it quieter and with less aggravation.
Your the second person to mention owning an electric zero turn. Interesting! Now you need an electric tractor 😉
what's the run time with a mower deck? like could you mow 2 - 2.5 acres on a single charge? what size mower deck(s) will it take? any idea on the expected MSRP?
Mower decks are not here yet, I'm being told a couple of months. This tractor is set to launch in the USA first quarter next year, the price will be announced then. I do believe that the website (in the description) has an option to request a sales price. I'm doing initial testing ahead of the launch and information.
This looks much more well thought out than the Solectrac e25G. Was there an available backhoe option for the 3-point?
I don't know if the backhoe will be compatible with this model, feel free to reach out to Solis and ask. Their website is in the video description. I will also ask myself.
@@TKCL Thanks, it's not in their website or brochure. I think you might get a better answer having an existing promotional relationship.
It would be good to check the power compared to diesel with a wood chipper and the operating time with a rotary mower.
Chipper sounds interesting
I’d like to see that do the skidding winch?
It's been a popular request to run the winch on both tractors.
Great Content!!! Maybe I missed it but did the company give you an estimate on price and will it be able to handle a backhoe attachment?
Not yet, I was told it will be available with pricing in a couple of months. No idea on the backhoe, the hydraulics (other than the loader) appear to not be as strong as the diesel version. I'm not sure how that would impact the backhoe.
So, I'm guessing you've had to return the SV24 by now. What are your final thoughts having had it to run for a while?
It is gone. I personally prefer diesel because I run for hours. If you don't use a tractor much or need no fumes, the SV24 is an interesting choice.
@@TKCL Thanks. Based on your other posts, that's what I expected. I don't have the constant runtime need, so an electric compact (preferably SCUT) with a 4 to 6 hour runtime would be perfect for my needs. I fear the upcharge in cost, though. Everything 'green' cost more including any appliance that is Energy Star rated.
I am not opposed to solar, as one of my small properties runs on solar, but I would have little use for this type of machine even in light duty applications. Run time still not enough and a 17K battery needs a lot of solar to charge it. If you are using grid electric to charge it, you ain't doing the environment or your wallet any favors. I would be interested in run time numbers running any attachment. Cost of the electric variant vs diesel, you could put years of diesel in it. On the positive side, if it were to have bi-directional charging, or an external plug for running other equipment, think battery generator, or a back up to home battery pack, then I might be able to make a case for it. If you are a prepper with money, in a worse case grid down, if your solar still works then you could at least charge it. But then again if you have money you probably have a lot of diesel and propane stored. As I see it right now, it is a very niche machine that makes little sense in most applications. Cool video nonetheless, and the pure geek in me will look forward to additional videos of testing it.
More videos coming with real world tests
Do trust you'll be going back to the diesel tractor!!
I make it very clear in this video it's not replacing my diesel tractors. I have too much property for electric. However its an interesting concept and one of the perks of my job is being able to test stuff like this.
I have a hefty spit over an acre, you are talking to me Andrew!
That loader lift capacity is impressive. I was curious if it could lift a round bale. Does it come with liquid ballast weight in the rear tires?
Tires are not filled, your dealer would need to do that. I believe it can lift a smaller round bale, they come in 3 different sizes around here. Hard to say without trying it in real life. A bale has a lot of forward weight in front of the loader pins.
Interesting, but not for me and my applications. Probably not bad for light use for a homeowner on small parcels.
Agreed, it has it limits and is for certain applications.
(haven't finished the video yet) Can it do vehicle to load (V2L) or vehicle to home (V2H)? I could sure use the ability to do 240v or even just 120v while "out back."
If you are referring to the chargers, no. You need to use the supplied charger and can feed it 120 or 240v as it automatically senses and changes charging. 240v is rated at 40 amps.
I believe that would be perfect today. Absolutely zero emission environment such as delicate greenhouses, large aviaries and sensitive indoor wildlife habitats
Agreed with that point as well. Same for electric fork lifts and manlifts.
Does the pto operate in reverse? The Selectrek doesn't.
Not that I seen
Charging off solar is sweet. Whats that thig cost?
Not sure yet, pricing and availability is supposed to be announced in the next 2-3 months.
I am not sure if they give this as a spec, but does it have the same angle capabilities of the diesel model? That battery sits pretty high in the frame, i wonder if it would tip over easier than your other tractor.
I have no idea on that one. I can say this tractor has a very wide stance and tires compared to similar models. I have never felt tipsy out on the trails.
Shocking!! 🙂Seems great for a limited (run time on charge) use tractor. You never mentioned charge amperage. How long, at how many amps max, at 240V? (220V) I'm sure 120V charging would be dumb!!
110v at 20 amps, 220v up to 40 amps.
I use 110v charging now because I'm using my solar system. It's plenty to get it charged during the day or overnight. I don't have enough shop batteries to do consistent night charging.
I have a question, what about winter weather, do they have a system to protect the battery from being damaged in the cold? I imagine most people will not use this tractor much in the winter, so the battery could be damaged just sitting there over winter.
Yes, the operating ranges/temperatures are very good. You should be able to run and charge this in most circumstances. I asked that same question.
If the battery chemistry is Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiPo4) then the batteries should not be stored for prolonged periods (months) of time over 30-50% SOC. Also temps below freezing is a no go with charging or discharing them below freezing and can damage them and many will have a low temp charging cut off in the BMS. So you would need a heat source in that instance of needing to charge or discharge in low temps. Some say you can store them under freezing, some say not to. But that is an expensive piece of machinery and the battery would be a huge cost if you needed to replace it due to your own neglect.
Are you still using net buddy,,,,,, One of your videos showed they was problems with them
Yes I am, I'm not paying for Starlink with fiber on the way to me next year.
Will the backhoe attachment work with it and if so have you tried it
Not sure, I'd have to remove the full frame mount to test that.
@@TKCL yeah that would be to much
Did they tell you the cost to replace the battery? Cool unit for some uses.
No I don't have any costs yet, it's set to be announced in a couple of months.
Big concern will replacement batteries be available in 10 years? How hard is it to remove and replace à battery? They are very heavy and would be charged. I would love to see standardization so it would be easy and give more confidence to users. I hate how every hand tool brand has its own battery. I believe you could make money selling adapters for them. .
Agreed about the replacement battery, it's some3a big company should consider offering. Obsolete or replacement batteries for equipment, vehicles ect.
Does this tractor have a mowing attachment?
You can add a rear pto mower and it's set up for a mid mount belly mower.
NO NO NOT YOU TOO. DAMN THIS ELECTRIC $HIT!!!
No need in getting so upset. I'm not trying to sell you one and I clearly talk about the limitations. It's a tool plain and simple. It has its strength and weaknesses just like a diesel, gas, corded tools, battery tools ect.
what kind of cell phone holster do you use?
Otterbox
just like cars and trucks ev tractors are in their infancy there WILL be problems, i think in the future better bigger batteries will help move them into larger scale ag enterprises , i can see feedlots, chicken operations using them right now something like New Holands bidirectional tractor would be a great platform for all electric , as you said NOT for eveyone BUT i would have one on my farm if i had the money bet your wife loves it little to no noise!!!!!! have you tried it on a log splitter or the chipper????
The log splitter is the next thing I'll test, it's been a popular request.
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If you were ever on one of our livestreams you probably got gifted a random membership by some of our generous viewers.
Are the batteries Lith/ion or Lith/Iron/Phosphate?
Spec sheets shows ion.
Would also be interested. LiFePo4 is still considered a lithium ion battery, just a variant. But it would make more sense to be a strict lithium ion.
I am a diesel person. I want it to run all day long with a simple fuel fill-up.
I understand, same for me with all the work I do.
Definitely cool but the battery at some point will go bad but a diesel engine will be good for decades
I'm curious about battery replacements myself.
Cost?
I don't have final cost yet, that should be out very soon. Check their website in the description, they have been posting prices for other tractors.
Anything you said anything yes I want to see what's the biggest mower that you can put all the three point realistically I'd be like 16 ft batwing okay I know it's not going to do that what do you handle a 5 ft or a 6-foot Rush hog
I did run a 5ft flail with zero issues while I had this for testing.
I have a few KNEGT electric tractors and would love for you to demo. If you’re interested contact me. I have 45 and 55 HP.
How much?
Don't know, I'm testing this before it's released in a couple of months. Website is in the video description, they have a quote section and contact form. Maybe they will quote you before the release.
Run time 5 hours charge time 12😂😂
That's plenty of time for a lot of people. Not everyone uses a tractor 8 hours a day.
I can remember back when a flying car was what everyone wanted now its been replaced by ev mania! The realistic market for this tractor is so narrow I'm surprised that this company thinks this can succeed. Just curious about if there is a tie in for your phone for this tractor?
It's for sure a very small market, who knows how big it is. I would have never thought electric cars would be as popular as they are. Equipment makes more sense to me. It's not new either, we've been using electric equipment for decades in warehouses and plants all over the world.
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im not gonna knock! alot of people are gonna have to get used to it! the only down fall is the power grids in the US are degradeing and line power is gonna take the blunt force! we cant just rely on total electric!
It is listed as a premier now, but it was unlisted and somehow Adam was able to view it. 🤔 I'm going to try a premier on Sunday and interact with everyone.
@@movingtarget6178lol right!
Congratulations 👏🎉 Adam trophy 🏆 is in the mail 📬
@@TKCL cuz I paid for it lol just kidding! i was just checking out your page and boom there it was lol!
Tgats too bad. Electrik runs 4 hours at full load
Everyone jumping on this electric stuff. The production of batteries and the effects on the planet are far worse then the production of diesel fuel. But people will still argue that.
Your trying to make something political here and I'm not. It's a battery powered tool, simple as that. If you truly believe the lithium batteries are that bad, are you getting rid of your cell phones, laptops, tablets, ear buds, battery powered tools, medical equipment etc. The list goes on and on, we all support it whether we realize it or not.
@TKCL i hear ya Bud, not trying to say all batteries are bad, exct. Just the push for ev's and such are going to be a problem in the future as far as environmental issues. But anyway, its a cool little tractor. 👍
The bigger issue is our outdated grid, no one seems to be focusing on that as our population grows and demands for more electricity grows.
@TKCL you're absolutely right about that! Its definitely in poor condition
Its toy a garden tractor,, not a big fan