How to Install Upgraded Rocker Arms on a Jeep, Dodge 3.7 & 4.7
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- čas přidán 16. 04. 2020
- In this video, I'll explain the benefits of the 05 and later rocker arm and show how to install these upgraded rocker arms. This also a great time to replace the lash adjusters (lifters) if there is any lifter tick. Also, show you how they operate with the engine running. With an epic fail but funny.
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Finally somebody that knows what they're doing with the 4.7 and the 3.7 great videos thank you for the information 👍
Thank you appreciate it
Incredible Value, Amazing Video, You have no Idea how much we appreciate your videos Martin. Keep well Sir and thank you again for sharing your knowledge.
Thank you, I appreciate that. Stay safe.
Thanks Martin, I've learned so much about my 2004 4.7 HO engine watching your videos! I look forward watching them all. Interesting to know about letting the commercials play out. I'll won't skip them from now on.
You are most welcome Gary and thank you for watching those commercials I do appreciate that, have a great New Year
I have had an 02 Durango for the past 8 years and now it is time to take care of many of these common problems. With your help I think it will go pretty good. Thank you for the videos and all the great info.
Glad to help
Best thing about your videos is how in depth you go..like telling us the correct size socket to rotate the crankshaft..don't have to try 7 different sockets to get the job done..
Thank you I'm glad you liked it and found it helpful.🙂👍
Wow very informative.love all the different angles in the video as well as very informative commentary. Gives me the confidence to overtake this kind of maintenance myself.
Glad you enjoyed it, you can do it!
I really enjoy watching the videos you create for the 4.7 and 3.7 Chrysler Dodge engines. Iv been working on a set of valve covers myself, polishing them up like you have done in a previous video. I believe in my ram 4.7 as it's been in my family since 80k and I'm soon to hit 207k. No engine issues ever, knock on wood, so it's time to show love and replace lifters and the rockers. Thanks for the tips.
Thank you!
hi Martin,and as always first class work..all the best my friend.
Thanks, you too!
Man That’s so cool ,Thanks for taking the time to show us the oil pressure on the rockers and lifters 👌🏻👍🏻✌🏻
Thank you. I'm glad you found it helpful. ☺️
Wow! Glad now that I bagged and tagged those rocker arms off that 08 Durango that I got the cams and intake off of yesterday at the Pull A Part! Excellent demo on the rocker arm to cam lobe oiling. This whole set up will find its way onto my 03 Durango! Thanks for the heads up Martin!
That is awesome! you scored big at Pull a Part
Wow, just found this page and an instant subscribe! My 2000 WJ has 640,000 miles but I'm always looking for 'new' info to keep it going. As a Detroiter. 'lifter,' 'valve adjuster,' whatever, depends on which side of town you're from - Ford, GM or Chrysler. I call them tappets!
Man it was so cool watching that camshaft spin. I’m rebuilding my 2004 4.7 after watching all your videos when I get home I need to see what kind a roller rockers I have. Probably the old style I don’t know that I’ll replace them now but I am putting in new melling lifters. It sounds like have a good lifters is the most important thing.
Thanks for putting in the time!
I do have the newer style! I had 315,000 miles and I’m glad I checked them because all the squirted holes were clogged. Will need to clean and I guess start using a senthetic oil more regularly. Thank you!
Thank you, Rich
Thank You for this video you saved me a ton of work I thought I was going to have to remove the engine head. You videos are so simple to follow.
Great to hear!
Thank you, I appreciate that.
Great video. Well explained and thorough. Things explained at decent pace with good camera views.
I'm glad you liked it and found it helpful thank you for watching.
Absolutely amazing content I wish I had found this channel before I started working on my Jeep
Welcome aboard!
Nice work love how you showed the motor running and the oil circulating
Thank you, glad you found it helpful.
Nice job Martin.The oil bath was priceless.....I wish I would have known about this last Nov. when I changed my head's,I would have used the upgraded rocker arms.
Thanks Dan, I'm glad you it enjoyed it.
Thank you for making easy to follow videos sir you are a great teacher also
Glad you like them!
Greetings Martin, I have a 2003 Jeep Liberty 3.7 and I'm in the process of changing hydraulic lifters as most of them are Not plunging. The Jeep overheated about 6 years ago. I managed to run it once in a while. Anyway, I went to our part store here O'Reilly's ordered some lifters and he told me that they don't stock engine internal parts now a days because, "no one do engine overhaul anymore, they just buy rebuilt engine". I told him that's bs. There are still people who rebuild their engines. So the bottom line, I'm not going back there to buy the rest of lifters and rockers in that store. Thanks for the great tips and videos.
15:30 you start to school us on pro mod if your engine is working better you can gain 10 HP love it!
I have had a noisy lifter on my 06 Mitsubishi Raider for over a year. One mechanic said "Oh, that's normal". What he didn't tell me was that it may be "a normal failure" on that vehicle but it still needs replacement. THANK YOU for an excellent classroom education. I'll be back. I wish you were in my town.
You are very welcome.
Since I just found you, I'm not letting go. I already feel as though I owe you money. Great instructor. Funny, I kinda look forward to doing it except doing what I have to do to do it.
I'm glad you liked it and found it helpful.😎👍
This such a good one Martin. Thanks for this, I’ve learned so much from you. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us!
Thank you. I appreciate that, and I'm glad you found it helped.
Great video, my 04 ram 4.7 with almost 400k miles definitely needs a set of lash adjusters, seemed like a daunting task but it looks like the hardest part is going to be getting the valve covers off...thanks for posting this!
Wow...400K you must be taking great care it, I don't think I would change a thing.
@@martinbuilt My pops bought the truck new in 2004, been all over the west coast and all around California for his contracting business. I got it from him about 5 years ago when he got his new GMC - he still misses it every time his Denali is in the shop...lol. Just a testament to regular maintenance and taking care of your vehicle!
awesome job explaining how to remove and putting rockers back on,
Thanks for watching!
Great as always Martin!
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi I know this is an old video .. but I’m rebuilding the 4.7 in my 2002 ram ... since many parts needed replacement I bought new 2009-2013 cams and I saved some money by buying the upgraded rockers from 2 2012 Jeep’s I found at the junkyard .. they were the 3.7 so I hade to take 2 apart I just gotta say thank you for having this info for you I much appreciate it .. now I’m looking forward to finish my engine and see for myself if all this upgrades add up . I’m also gonna do the injector upgrade .
Just out of curiosity, where did you get the 09 -13 Cam shafts from you have a link to the product?
Good luck with the build 👍
@@martinbuilt oh I’m sorry I meant newer cams from the 2009-2013 ... I actually was able to buy them off a dismantler in my town I just checked to make sure the numbers were correct .
Great video!!! One question, I changed the Cloyes timing kit and I feel the same tensioner knock noise I had before. Disappears within 2 to 5 minutes of turning on. the oil pressure measured it and it is at 70 cold and at 18 hot idle. I put liqui moly for botadores and I do not improve. What can be?
Super tip! Great video Martin!
Glad you liked it!
I've begun work on my 2000 4.7 WJ. So far every nut and bolt has been rusted solid. So should I call it my Rusty Nut Project, which I have or the Rust Bolt Project. I enjoy your videos very much and I am holding you responsible for encouraging me to rebuild my loved jeep. Truly the best vehicle I ever owned. When my mechanic said Junk it cause it needs new control arms, shocks and an exhausted, I thought time for a lift kit. It just turned over 100,000 miles. So, I have begun.
Wow only 100k that's nothing, to bad about the rust
That was something else never seen them snap on like that
I'm use to the 70 up to I guess late 90 thank you for sharing I'm still scratching my head wow
love watching your videos keep up good work buddy. i have a ram 1500 4.7 very helpful vids
Thank you I appreciate that. I'm glad you like them and find them helpful.
Respect from Bulgaria 🇧🇬 now I will start project wit my new 4.7 wj but is broken for now ✌
Nice to hear from you 🙂
Good luck with the repairs.
Thank you for watching 👀
Awesome information. Love the bloopers, That's my favorite part! I hope your looking into the roller timing chain set-up?? Stay safe out there..
What roller timing chain?
Chris took a late model 4.7 timing chain (that is a single roller) and modified to fit the older 4.7's
I did remove the cam timing wheel from one of the older cam gears but, that is as far as I got.
Hi Chris, where did you get the chainset you used and what hardware will I need from the newer engine to complete the conversion?
Okay, Rockauto has a Cloyes set #90393SF listed under 2008 dodge Dakota 4.7 for $270.00. This will have everything you will need, except the toner wheel from a 2002 4.7. Grind the rivets from the back side and punch then out enough the remove the toner wheel, Swap the 02 onto the 08 sprocket and weld up the rivets. I spoke with Cloyes about what I was doing and he agreed it would work. And mine is working great. Cloyes has a video on youtube with both applications if you need to watch and see what they did differently. Best of luck.
Thank you so much I’m gonna use this upgrade on my 2001 dodge Dakota 4.7. It has a slight lifter sound and gasket leak on the driver side although it is a crate jasper engine about two years old.
I have a 2005 Liberty Sport 3.7. From the list of affiliates you provide I am not sure which rocker arms and lifters will fit my 3.7. And, again, excellent video. I taught auto body repair for over 25 years. You would make a good instructor. Thanks, Jim
Thank you Jim I really appreciate that here's a couple links below that should help you out.
Lifters
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Rocker arms
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Amazing video! You explained it so clearly. Hoping to do this in the 2008 Jeep Liberty 3.7!! Happy wrenching!
Thank you. I really appreciate that. Your 08 Jeep already has the upgraded rocker arms. From 05 and later all 3.7 and 4.7 have the upgraded rockers.
@@martinbuilt understood-I knew from your video I had the upgraded rockers. The LASH Adjusters/lifters is what I am thinking need to be replaced (lifter tick). Wonder if with 130k I ought to replace rockers as well.
@@swatscorner I doubt if the rockers need to be replaced. They are pretty much bulletproof.
@@martinbuilt good to know! Thanks!!
Thanks Martin. My wallet is thinking you're not a nice man, but your content is golden. I'll tell the wallet to quit thinking. Keep that content coming!
Jeep Chrystler, AND JEEP!? Thanks to you Martin and this video I was able to do this project on my jeep. I used a tool for interior / trim clips to get them out that happened to be 10mm. It gets real hairy on the back passenger side but it can be done! I used the new rockers from the 2005 like you said and I also confirm THEY DO FIT!!!! Thanks for putting this together. All of my youtube advice will come from you from now on! (And scotty kilmer lol)
PS I popped the rockers in with my tire iron LOL
Also to anyone else reading this, probably the rocker kicked off due to poor oil delivery. My suggestion is to replace the worn lifter but also pop off the oil pan and clean the suction filter.
Excellent video. A lot of help!!
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it and found it helpful 👍 😊
Great analysis
Thank you 😊
Thanks for the info , greatly appreciated !!
Glad it was helpful!
Buenas .excelente explicación y a su vez la mejora para que no salpique .gracias .Saludos desde Venezuela
Translated comment: Good. Excellent explanation and in turn the improvement so that it does not splash. Thank you. Greetings from Venezuela
Thank you, stay safe.
I hear about it but now I seen it thanks Martin I'll use them in my next build. 👍
I'm glad you found it helpful thank you for watching.😊
Great Information Martin thanks keep my HO Jeep overland WJ 4.7 going 👍
Thank you, Glad you liked it and found it helpful.🙂
@@martinbuilt Gday Martin, I was amazed how hard it is to Locate Camshafts for HO . Look forward to chatting again . The information on Jeep WJ is fantastic I watch them regularly. I like air craft hanger heaps of room 👍. Cheers mate
Gday Martin,
How are you going Martin? Mate you ever re- grind the camshafts if not available for the HO WJ Jeep 4.7 V8? Or is it not recommended?
Regards Mike
nice video. Very informative
I'm glad it was helpful!
Great video👌
Thank you, much appreciated 🙏😊
Hey Martin. Thanks for the video. You have a lot of really good info. Was wondering if I put 08 cams in my 04 4.7 HO if I’ll need to replace the valve springs.
Your the best Mr. Martin,
Don’t forget your cam lube people
Thank you, just added them!
Awesome video. Thank you!
Glad you liked it
thanks for the rocker arm uppgrade notice
Any time!
Very nice job!
Thank you. Glad you like it.👍🙂
Siempre veo los PATROSINADORES. GRACIAS compartire tus videos en mi pagina.
Thank you, I appreciate that, glad you liked it.
Liked and subscribed, just brought home a 2004 Rengade, 150K, hope I don’t need but great info, thanks!
Awesome 👌 congratulations.
Thank you for subscribing and watching 👀
@@martinbuilt ☕️💪
God bless you finally someone explains it to me . thanks
Thank you I really appreciate that I'm glad you liked it.
The way you explaining and showing is amazing . You love your shiny valve covers:) I just ordered ones from scrap yard,will do the same project,thank you Martin
Glad you like them!
Ty i have 4.7 in dodge pick up other day barley got to my friends shop. No 2 cylinder missing like crazy violent really. I bet lifter failed. Hope rocker did not cause to much damage to engine. I subscribed
Nice work thanks
I'm glad you liked it. Thank you for watching.🙂
Thanks for your video. After doing the rocker arms and lifters on the passenger side, my check engine light came back on and I can’t get engine to rev above 2200 rpm. Could it be related to hand turning the crankshaft ?
Very nice video! I sense a lot of knowledge from Martinbuilt. I see headers installed, curious as to what other performance parts are available for the 3.7? 350000 km on my Liberty, glad I found this video
Best video yet
Glad you like it!
Ok I got some of these upgraded rockers from a 4.7, I see your point and the issue with the original rockers, but I also see that the new rockers created another issue, lack of oil to rocker bearings, I have seen a few videos and the majority of rockers that come off are from the exhaust valves so I’m thinking of installing the upgraded rockers on exhaust valves and leaving the originals for the intake valve as they put out a lot more oil.
Man I Love You,you Just literally put $600 In My Savings I've completed the job client satisfied 😊❤
I'm glad I could help and thank you for watching.😎🤑
Always great
Thank you
Would you use these if you already have solid lash adjusters? I would think they are not needed in that case.
Thanks for mentioning what year they were redesigned and what was changed
THANK YOU!!! EXCELLENT VIDEO!!!
Thank you I'm glad you liked it and found it helpful.😊
ive got a 3.7 im gonna rebuild, i pulled it because it wouldnt idle,blown head gaskets, and higher miles, and i droped 4 and 6 exhaust rockers what woulda caused that??
Спасибо, Мартин! Очень полезное видео. 👍
I'm glad you liked it and found it helpful thank you for watching.
What an amazing tutorial about the rockers and lifters... Really really helpful. I will do my lifters myself on my Jeep 3.7 2006 cause they make sometimes noise for a coupe of seconds at startup. I wonder where can I get those chrome shinny valve covers for my 3.7 ??
You may want to try some Marvel Mystery oil that could cure your lifter noise. On your next oil change use half a quart. Then if that doesn't fix it then I would replace the lifters.
If you want your valve covers to look like those look up how to Polish magnesium.
Will nick the cam doing that.A special tool is needed.Another cause of the rocker arms coming out is a dropped valve seat,have seen this before
Good evening, excellent video and explanation, I just wanted to ask you, I have a 3.7 jeep liberty, can I put a 4.7 rock arm and lifter on it without problems?
You are absolutely a genius
Thank you. I really appreciate that. I'm glad you liked it and found it helpful.
Thanks for the info it helps...
No problem, thank for watching!
Hello Martin, I hope you are well. I have a 2007 Jeep Commander with a 3.7 engine. I am going to change the engine crankcase seal and I want to change the connecting rod metals. Are they in standard? I have a doubt if giving torque will bind the crankshaft?
Mr. Martin thank you so much for what you do and sharing your vast knowledge about the 4.7. Because of you I am no longer scared to do these modifications to my vehicle. I am currently in the middle of a 4.7 to 4.7 swap for my 04 ram 1500 4.7 SLT 4X4 because of a blown head gasket and milky oil. I bought another donor 04 ram 1500 4x4 because it currently has a strong 4.7 with no issues. I do have a question if you have time. Both trucks have the 8th digit N in the VIN. The donor is an automatic tranny while the recipient is a 5spd. Watching your video on replacing the stock cams with the earlier HO cams you scared the daylights out of me. You made mention about the PCM plugs. The donor (automatic tranny) has a 4 plug PCM while my truck has a 3 plug PCM. Is this due to the difference in the auto vs 5spd or am i going to run into the tone ring issue? Also my new to me cams are marked 1414AB and 1413C. Did I do good on the pick and will they work? Again thank you so much for your time and devotion to this channel. Sending you some educational funding as soon as i post this !!
Thank you Bradley for the kind words and generous donation I really appreciate that.
Yes the camshafts you got the 1414 and the 1413 are HO Cam shafts.
Now the situation with the number of plugs on the ECM on your donor 04 seems a bit odd that it only has 3 and this could be because of the manual transmission the 4th plug is for automatic transmission control.
To verify that both of them have the same tone ring on the crank shaft or reluctor gear I would verify that they have the same camshaft gear on the passenger side compare the rectangle holes and if they are in the same location then you are good to go.
I would remove the Cam gear from the engine that has the blown head gasket lay that Cam gear up against the donor vehicle engine and compare carefully to verify that they are the same or not.
Let me know what you find you can always contact me on my Facebook Messenger there is a link in the description of all my videos.
Always always turn the motor kn the direction of running rotation...
Love those shiny Valve covers...I'm still working on mine...Amazon screwed up my orders
I didnt know you get commission through Amazon...you got double from me because I had to order those Dremel polishing wheels twice XD
Thank you, I appreciate that, Yes as long as you go through the amazon link in the description the channel receives a commission.
I know this is at least 3 years ago. The links (20.05.23) are all out of stock for the new type of rockers as well. I was just wondering if you have used the rocker locks that are made for the 3.7 & 4.7L as well and if you think they would be of value and last the distance?
So, if I go to amazon and order a kit for my 2003 jeep liberty 3.7 engine, I would need to order a 2005 kit? and even though it says it's not compatible.
Hi Martin, thanks for high quality video, question can I put new valve stem seals on without removing camshaft, and just remove rocker arms. Thanks a million!
Yes you can, They do make a special tool to compress the spring. You will also need to use compressed air to the cylinder to keep the valve from falling into the cylinder.
I am getting too much negative camber on my right front wheel. Any videos on tigjtening up front of vehicle.
Where do I get the upgraded rocker arms and valves for my 2003 Dodge ram 1500 4.7
I have a 01 Dodge Dakota it dropped #8 rocker and I don't have compression so It probably dropped the valve. I haven't looked down the plug hole to see how bad. Than you for the video.
I bet you dropped a valve seat and the valve is hung open and that's why the rocker came off unfortunately you probably gonna have to replace the cylinder head or a machine shop should be able to repair the head.
Can you update the links for the 'improved' rocker ? (Current links are dead). I want to be sure I get the small hole version , as I expect it may improve my hot oil pressure.
Hey Martin! Love all your 4.7 videos! You have no idea how much I have learned from your videos!! Thank you. Wondering what rocker arm brand you put in with the new design? Huge price difference and origin of manufacture. My rockers seem all right, but have old style you mention in video (2001 dodge dakota 4.7). Swapping all lifters and seems like good time to change to new style. Received DNJ (made in china). Got the similar priced EngineTech rockers you mentioned above coming this week. I am torn if I should just leave the old ones or not. Just don't want to put in low quality arms, but think the new design makes sense. Also everything says the Melling MR-1345 rocker doesn't fit 2001 but fits 2002, do you think that is a screw up or is there something to it.
Thank you, I really appreciate that. I like the OEM rockers and I just get them from the local Pick-a-Part and them just clean them up with some Totally Awesome and reoil before installing them.
The Melling MR-1345 will fit all 99-13 3.7 and 4.7 engines.
Great video! I’m rebuilding a 4.7 for my Ram. The donor motor came from an 05. I shouldn’t have any problems cleaning up the rockers in the 05 donor for the rebuild right? Im trying just to spend money where it benefits the most. I’m doing the 08+ upgrades on the build so I found an intake and I need to buy the adapter for the TB. Also doing the ATI under pulley. Mainly my question is if I clean them up the used 05 rockers should be fine on my rebuild right?
Yes those rockers from your 05 will work perfectly like you said just clean up and install them also a good thing to blow some compressed air through that smaller hole of the rocker.
Still not sure what to get. Your links no longer work. There are several rocker links. Can you update them please?
the driver side valve cover is a very tight fit on a dakota pickup.
Yes, it is. On the 00-04 Jeep Grand Cherokee it's the passenger side that's really tight. The battery, battery tray, A/C compressor, and more need to be removed.
Hello Martin I clicked the link for the B-2271 lifters and they are out of stock do you know anywhere else I can get these lifters I've been and will continue to keep looking, you have been very helpful and I greatly appreciate it and the time you take to explain to in your videos
They changed the lash adjuster in 05 or 06 as well. The 2271 adjuster is part 53021077 and the new one is part 53021894AA or Sealed Power HT-2308.
Hello, thanks for the video, very informative,
Can you apply this method on 3.6 pentestar
Thank you. I appreciate that I'm glad you like it. Unfortunately, the 3.6 is not as easy as the 4.7 or the 3.7.
Martin please tell us what do you think about the rocker locks
Hello Mr Martin, my 99 wj 4.7 rockers came loose and messed up both heads. I decided to install another engine. And found a 4.7 HO. Question can this swap be done. Thanks for all the great videos.
As long as that is a 04 or older HO engine that will swap right into your 99 with no problem.
You are very welcome and thank you for watching.
Olá! Sou Brasileiro e comprei minha Liberty 3.7 2012 de apenas 01 dono e com 80.000 km , de o me preocupar com essa falha nos balancins?
No Brasil a temperatura é alta o ano inteiro, seria melhor usar óleo 5w40 ao invés de 5w20?
Awesome instructional Martin! Do you ever see the roller of the rocker go bad? If someone already has an 05-07 would replacing the rocker arms as maintenance with the lash adjusters make sense?
Thank you, I personally have never seen one go bad, I wouldn't replace them.
Man you made dat easy nice video
Glad you liked it
@@martinbuilt I dnt have to set da timing or anything like dat
Hey bud i got a 2004 malibu 2.2 reset my timing and still no start wat u think is wrong wit it eco pack or wat
My 04 dakita has the upgraded arms, im currently taking out the lifters, they are all in very bad condition
I see that you also linked the aftermarket Melling rocker arms. Which is better, the Melling rockers or the factory 05+ rockers? I'm about to do these on my 108k mile 4.7 HO and only want to do it once :-)
I like the factory ones best just because I get them from Pic-a-Part for cheap and have never seen one fail before. Mellings is a good name and you can't go wrong with them.
Great video. We have a 2002 Jeep Liberty with lifter tick starting in new engine. Off warranty because of time. Only 20.000 miles. Can provide part number for upgraded rocker?
Thank you. I'm glad you liked it. One of these links should work for you.
16 x Rocker Arm 53020742AC 4.7L amzn.to/3prhzt8
Rocker Arm For 99-13 3.7L, 4.7L amzn.to/3rwiM3S
Mellings Rocker Arms amzn.to/3pzqpEC
Hi Martin, I am interested in doing a top end overhaul and and timing chains, guides and water pump but I don't have ability to build my own spanner wrench, valve spring compression tool and wedges like you did. I was wondering if you sell those online somewhere somewhere? I can probably find the wedges but I cannot find the spanner wrench and valve spring compression tool
I do have the valve spring compressor available. You can contact me at Facebook facebook.com/Martinbuilt-2351766611763181
Would you recommend replacing all the lifters if 1 is bad? My thoughts is you already have the valve cover off. Cheaper (time wise) to just knock them all out, no?
Yes I would recommend at least the one valve cover you have off to change them all out especially if you're doing this on your grand Cherokee on the passenger side valve cover very hard to get out because of air conditioning heater hoses and wiring that are all in the way.