Is It Worth The Money? The NEW Sony 70-200 f/2.8 GM ii Tries To Blow Our Minds!
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- For $2800 USD, the newly updated Sony 70-200 f/2.8 GM ii promises to be the BEST in it's class. But will it live up to the hefty price tag or should you look elsewhere? In this video, we take a practical look at the photo and video capabilities of this lens and talk about my personal experience shooting with it. We'll go over the features and functions as well as show you video and photo examples so that you can see the quality for yourself.
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0:00 - Intro
0:45 - Example Video & Photos
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3:50 - Buttons, Dials, & Features
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7:40 - Size, Weight & Autofocus
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Worth it to me. Image quality is superb and keeping it internal zoom and still able to reduce weight and size is incredible. Love using it on my FX6/FX3 for filming and it handles well on the A7IV for stills.
I found one at a local camera store and snapped it up. I had the 70-200 f4 since it came out. This one feels as comfortable to carry as the f4 and is such a fantastic lens.
Nice snag!
Thank you for this review, very informative, appreciate it very much. Your mention of the 2x converter was an excellent point to note and also having a wider aperture at the long end also is an advantage. Again, very good review and thank you for doing it!
Thanks for watching!
If Dunna can't do it, no one can?
Awesome video. Loved the chill vibes and engaging content. 🙌🏾
Thanks dude haha
Love mine and have been using it for 2 months now without regrets!
Been traveling with this lens for the past week and it's absolutely amazing!
Pretty fantastic experience isn’t it?
Very good review.
I picked one up a few months ago, and it has lived on my a7iv since then.
I mostly shoot at poorly lit arenas (amateur ringette and hockey), and it's been fantastic. Absolutely no problems shooting at F2.8 (and, they're both VERY fast moving sports).
The weight difference is HUGE versus the mark i. My hands would ache on longer shoots. This lens is a pleasure to use.
Glad to hear it!!
@@dunnadidit How would it perform with 2x tele on nikon z9 with sony e mount converter? also for sports without converter? I only like the 14-24 of nikon z glasses... Aand i plan to have both a1 and z9. What do you think?
Another beautiful review!, thank you sir!
Thanks for watching!!
Thanks for the Review! Just got my hands on it! Need to go out and test it more myself.
Always great reviews. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching dude!!
Opted for the 70-200 MK1, saved £1000, still a great lens.
Guessing the show at 2:09 approaching waterfall. was very wide . Great video by the way. Always appreciate your work
Just got it a couple weeks ago.only used twice but I am in love with it.Coming from nikon and could only use sigma or tamron 70-200 due to price for nikon. Love how it feels, zoom, weight and the look on the A7IV is sweet. Now the price was well needless to say I didnt tell my wife! I make a nice living with my gear so its very well worth it to me. Goes nicely with the sigma 24-70 2.8 a and the sony 200-600 and I have the 1.4 converter that makes it very sweet. Great review sir.
Thanks for the info and to show us what can be done with this lens :) just a question, can this lense like the tamron 35-150 to use the buttons to set your focus? thanks in advance.
Been happy with the Tamron so far, and I use all sorts from Sigma to Sony GM lenses.
Thanks for this video.
I wonder if you made the video with this lens and 2x teleconverter. I want to know how those two pieces work together in video mode. Thanks
I have the 70-200 f4 lens and use it with the A6500 couple of years ago. It did really well for me at horse shows but now I have the sony A6600 and I have thought about upgrading to this lens .
I have been loving my 70-200 F4, and will be switching over after I save up! If you are unsure with this focal length, trying out the cheaper version will help
Good call!
Nice review! Thanks man...
my best lens ever, just in love with it.
Traded up to the MK II after owning the MK I version, and I have to say the Lighter weight is almost worth the price alone, but that on top of all the little upgrades they added makes the MK II worth it if you can swing the price tag.
I bought the version 1 second hand for half the price. Superb lens no regrets.
I'm a newbie and definitely not a professional, however, my lens comes in on Tuesday. Can't wait.....now moving forward, I'd like to be able to become a professional with this lens!! :)
eagerly waiting to try this version II
Dunna great video! I'm thinking of getting the 70-200mm F4 for shooting mountain bike photos in the Forrests in Victoria. Mount Work etc. Similar to Goldstream. Low light on an a7iii. Do you think the F4 could keep up, or pale in comparison to this GM V2 F2.8?
As far as focus breathing compensation goes, I've **heard** that the reason it hasn't been introduced on the FX3 and A7Siii (as much as I'd LOVE it on my FX3) is because the sensor resolution isn't high enough. I don't know how much resolution is actually necessary, but apparently the 400 pixels of horizontal width beyond 16:9 4K on the Sony 12 MP sensors (native sensor width on the FX3 is 4240px) isn't sufficient to support that feature. The 4K footage on the A7iv is 7K oversampled and downscaled, and either way the sensor obviously has plenty of extra pixels beyond 4K resolution.
love the review! What are your thoughts on adding this to an A6400?
Just got mine last week and I love it.
Nice!!
Could you please check if your alpha 1 has faded, horizontal lines/bars on its Display? (Turn off the Display and hold it sideways in different light to see them)
Can’t wait for the Sony 200-600 G ii !!
Reminds me of the classic Canon L series 70-200 f/2.8. Actually just sold mine after it sitting on a shelf forever since switching to Sony. It was not as expensive, but still a pretty penny when I bought and was worth it. I still think the Tamron is more than comparable even for pro work, but if you make enough and can afford it, might as well pay for that little better glass and more functions.
What is the screen ratio in your sample video clips in the beginning ? The one that when u zoom in on video it fills your phone perfectly
I just got mine 1 month ago. I hvnt use zoom for many years. This zoom is really something else. The 1kg weight is a god sent. I am a person who goes out shooting for a whole day so every weight saving is good for me. The gm2 is also sharp as if its a prime. I love it. My other go to lenses are the 35gm and 85gm. ( yea the 85 needs some improvement)
Why do you think the 85 needs some improvement? I love my 85 Gm!
Hi! You should try the Sigma 85 dg dn, cheaper and also lighter than the Sony GM!
@@asdre110 Yeah the Sigma lenses are also very good, but I think the GM has the better autofocus.
I bought a Kirk Arca-Swiss foot for my 70200GM and it works with 70200GM2 / 100400GM. That makes working with Arca-Swiss-based tripod a joy to work with (there are other brands, but don't buy cheap ones).
Its beyond me that the tripod mount on this lens doesn’t integrate an arca swiss.
Outstanding lens, i love it
Definitely a great lense but I bought the olde sony 70-200 mm f4 for my FX6 and it is awesome too 👍🏻 my two last uploaded short clips were made with it 🎥 best cinematic greetings from germany
It's an amazing looking and performing lens and I wish I could justify one. For me it was a simple choice, spend that on the lens to go with my A7IV, or use that money for 10 days in NYC including premium seats from the UK at Christmas. I went with the trip. More important to go places and do photography than just keep buying gear to play with at home.
Sounds like a good choice to me!
@@dunnadidit Cheers, I will be bringing the A7IV with a Sigma 24-70 F2.8 and my Fuji X-T3 with some nice glass. Eventually I'll probably get the Tamron 70-180 F2.8 but I'm going to see what Sigma brings to the party. A Sigma 70-200 F2.8 Art will probably be the one if it's good and not crazy expensive.
@@thegeneral123 I was waiting for Sigma but I got the Tamron and it’s great 👍
Use the lens to help finance the trip. You won't ever have that little voice telling..what if.. but that's just my opinion. You do you.
@@michaellim4165 How can I use a lens I don't own to finance the trip?
Went with the Tamron 70 to 180 anyway. Got a great deal.
Great video, great channel, from Victoria so even better.
Maybe one day I'll get this lens. I love wildlife photography. The photo of the eagle through the branches was phenomenal.
70200GM2 is a superb lens, but shooting wildlife you might need a longer reach. You will need 100400GM(2) when it comes out or 200600G for now.
@@wingcreator or tc
@@Donbros 1.4x is fine but little short for what you want to shoot. 2.0x II is badly needed as 2.0x is still not good enough. Rumored 1.4/2.0x II will come out soon?
Thanks for the hint to „MUSICBED“ 👍
Would you compare this 70-200mm ii vs. the older f/4 model? Curious about saving money on a lower f stop than paying the newest and latest.
Miles better. No comparison. 70-200 f4 G is still a fine lens though but perhaps if the new version can be smaller, lighter, and shorter? Hopefully, even be the first 70-200 f4 that can use 1.4 / 2.0x with crazy min focus!
Can I please get your opinion on something? I've seen so many people rave about how amazing the Sony G master 24mm wide angle lens is, but I don't recall seeing anyone talk about the G master 35mm. And I have a feeling a 35mm is going to work better for my needs. I just got my A7IV and want to get a really good lens, but it's going to be my only really good lens for the time being so I want to make sure it's going to be versatile enough for what I need. I get occasional paid gigs doing birthday parties, family photos, etc. but I don't go searching for jobs so it's pretty rare. My main need is to start filming music videos for my own music.
Can I get away with using the 24mm to do all my performance shots and b roll for rap music videos? Or am I right that a 35mm would do way better? And have you heard anything on the 35mm G master? It's just as expensive as the 24mm, so I'm hoping it is just as good.
Thanks!
agreed its time to upgrade the a1 firmware and all the extras of the a74 + more video features like wave form and color scopes its the flag ship camera that is the most expensive compared to Nikon or canon and its about time
I really wish it wasn’t this expensive. I really want this lense but probably end up never using it. Might rent one soon
Great video! 🎉
I hear you! Thanks!
With inflation and 6 years differences with a few great improvements - esp weight, AF / IQ, and extender perfection from v1, 70200GM2 is not expensive at all. I think it has a similar launch price.
I do sports videography, this lens is the best I've ever used. Having that 2.8 shallow depth of field is pivotal and it's so much lighter in weight in comparison to the first version. Love it!
I have the v1 and just use for fun - mostly shooting motocross . Am I really missing anything? Other than weight?
@@oosteveo315 I would say the iris control on the actual lens as well could make it worth it, you can change it quicker on the fly if need be. Weight is definitely the biggest factor, it feels so much lighter than the first model.
@@oosteveo315 also the buttons on the side of the lens offer more versatility than the previous model. I haven’t used every single one but Dunna explained them all well
@@oosteveo315 nearly 1/3 weight loss of that of all the AF 70-200mm of any brands (except RF 70-200 2.8 L which is still around 50g heavier than GM2) which made it possible to use with a gimbal. 0.4m min focus with 70mm (great for those moments needing to shoot close but with a tele zoom). Much faster and more accurate AF. Works perfectly with 1.4 / 2.0x that v1 was just ok with 1.4x and not good at all with 2.0x. Aperture ring for video works.
This lens is ridiculous. Used it at a wedding the other day and not a single missed shot, not even in low light and every single image was tack sharp. I've also paired it with the 2X tele for wildlife and nature shots when I don't feel like lugging the 2-6 around and it does very well. If I need extra reach I simply throw the camera in crop mode.
hey hey, you too are using the 200-600?damn its heavy,i am considering this one, how is your experience till now?I do have the 70-200 G f4 and am about to sell it for this one
@@worldbynath. I still LOVE the 200-600. It’s really not that heavy once you get used to it. When it comes to traveling though, like flying on a plane, it stays home lol. Another example is If I’m doing strictly wildlife, it’s the lens I’m going with. For a mixture of wildlife, macro, landscape etc, I’m going with the 70-200 + 2x. It’s a lot more versatile.
@@Gr33n1872 yeah its a no no for traveling 😅 helpful reply, ill be considering this one, appreciate mate cheers
@@worldbynath. No problem! 😃
How do u think its doing against the 100-400 GM? :)
Own it, love it, worth every penny!
ditto
i couldn't attach the lens hood after throwin Nd fitlter on it, is that normal?
It really depends on the lens filter but yeah, I find a lot of my filters don't fit INSIDE lens hoods... but I just don't usually use lens hoods.
I am stil debating between the sigma 85, 135 gm and the 70-200. I do want to sell my a7IV and get the A7RV because its just not reacting the way I want it to. Its been weird and I think I might have to send it in and maybe there is just something wrong with it? My A7SIII in video just works. It reads my mind on what I want. While the a7IV in video just fights me. It focus hunts and on photos Id see the box on the persons eye but when I pull it up its not sharp (using the 24-70 GMII). Im starting to shoot more events lol
A but out of budget. If I’m doing video and some photo. Would you choose the f4 or the gen 1 f2.8?
Was it the shot at 2:17 that wasn't filmed with the 70-200??
The $3500 + tax is a hard pill to swallow, but I'm going to put in a pre-order for it. It'll be a great investment long term with my trail run sports photography/videography and the odd family photoshoots. Looking a your pics, it definitely has that "WOW" factor, just like my 50mm 1.2 GM. Awesome video bud!
😏
2470GM2 and 70200GM2 are killer zoom upgrades.
I’ve read that Sony will never update the a7s3 and fx3 with breathing compensation because the megapixels are too low. Any thoughts on this?
Bullshit, they did that on fx6 and it does not have a ton too
I bought it just for vacations lmao. Who wouldn’t want pro grade shots? Otherwise it’s an amazing lens, solid and great rendering. I paired it with the 2X converter and it works so well and is very fast at focusing with it.
Just finally ordered my 2x teleconverter. They were out of stock forever!
Which lens did you film this video with? I just got the 70-200 GM ii, it is amazing.
Most of it with the 16-35 GM and then that one segment with the 70-200 of course
Im guessing the wide waterfall shot was not the new lens.. unless the shot of the camera taking shots counts lol.
Wow that looks ALOT like Washington 👍
Have you ever made a video on how you set up your Sony A1?? Would love to see one!
I haven’t! Maybe I’ll do one!
@@dunnadidit that’d be awesome!
A belter as usual, D! This is not a lens for me as I don't shoot scenery or wildlife. That does not detract from this being an top drawer review. My stab at the scene that was not shot on the new Sony 70-200. I think there are 2. Your opening and B-Roll where you cut away to it. Did I win? 🤔😆
Haha not quite!!
@@dunnadidit ...but close?
It’s the shot where I was filming the other camera filming the waterfall.
Hi Dunna, great video as always...just a question: why all photos were shot in f2.8? Is there a specific reason? Am I missing something? Because I understand you want bokeh for birds, or lots of light if you are at dusk or in the woods, but I don't understand why you used that aperture for landscapes (like the one with the white mountains). Thank you for any eventual answer ;)
Hey! I actually shot a bunch at other apertures too, they just didn’t end up being the ones I used for the examples. Mostly it was for light or just for speed. I happened to be on f2.8 already and quickly wanted to snap one haha.
@@dunnadidit ok, phew, so no hidden secret new technique I wasn’t aware of 😅 thank you for your answer, keep up the good work, your content is fantastic and super useful!
Haha nope! The other ones just didn’t make the cut lol.
As a hobbyist photographer who occasionally gets jobs to shoot videos or pics that are paid, I am currently weighing my options. The MK1 is on sale on Amazon for under $2K, and the MKII is still the $2.8K.
So I am wondering if spending the almost $1k extra is worth it to a hobbyist? For reference I shoot on an A7IV that I own since launch. I have a Sigma 24-70 and the 16-28 both at F2.8. I do shoot at night time quite a bit so having a zoom at F2.8 is worth but I do want something longer like this 70-200.
I'd love to test this lens, especially with the OSS. In the meantime, I stick with the Tamron 70-180 and carry a tripod.
i love this lens on gimbal with fx3 is the best
I just saw it on cell for $1900 definitely good price and that was last week
Is it worth to upgrade from version 1?
Wish list for now 🤗
I hear that!
I double for focus breathing comp to come to mentioned cameras. All these three cameras are super video cameras and they didn't include it. A7iv is more photos tbh and it got that
the 70-180 image quality seems just as good imo and the price is insane you can find these all day used for under $900 no tax and its not heavy. Its amazing, shot a graduation with this and it was great. Now if I was a sports photographer taking quick bursts of photos to get the perfect moment I would get the gmaster for the autofocus, but I really dont take action shots. I like it for portraits and cars
No the Tamron 70-180 IQ is not as good, not quite as sharp, less microcontrast, worse bokeh, bad color rendition (skin tones lean towards yellow) and AF is slower than the Sony mkii
@@nrocha2466 Yes, your good breakdown of the differences is bang on. There are obvious reasons for the price difference, not just for the Sony badge alone. Nowadays, people are just comparing lenses more on the performance-price ratio than really saying a lens is amazing without arguing there are not enough differences for price differences! There is nothing that touches 70200GM2, PERIOD. If the budget is tight, YES, the Tamron is the best budget 70-180 (ok, it is not quite 70-200 as Sony, one of its shareholders is making Tamron making funny mm and TC not compatible FE lenses as not direct competition). However, if the price is not a consideration, then 70200GM2 is the new king of 70-200mm in terms of AF, image quality, and min focus 0.4m @ 70mm (at least until now).
I may have missed it, but what camera was the video shot with?
Sony a1
Just got my 70-200mm GM II … and after only a couple dozen photos with my A1… I feel like I’m cheating ha! It’s a joy to use! Love the images coming out of it… still in honeymoon phase though. Also, the price hurt something fierce ha!
That sounds like a dream setup!
@@DavidArmelino I’m loving it! But it was a painful purchase ha
How’d you get it! It’s out of stock almost everywhere all the time
@@xzavierhamilton1131 Plenty in HK.
I bought the Tamron 35-150f2 instead. Razor sharp and better range for what I shoot
I just picked up a used flawless copy of this lens along with the 2x tele. It’s so good, it feels like cheating. Yes, it’s expensive, but it will hold its value over the years and since it’s so light you will use way more than you typically would.
I’m was thinking buy the 400-600mm for wildlife but probably I will not use a lot as if I get this 70-200 with 2x Tc more versatile for many ways . Sure will be lot of extra money 😬
Copy?
I'm going to resist this one as long as I can but I want it with the 2x.
To use the 2.0x properly, 70200GM2 is the only Sony 70200 for the moment. Can't wait for Sony to fix the 2.0x usage with the 100400GM into v2 soon?
The shot showing the A1 is the one taken on a different lens. I mean, it gotta be, right?
😏 maybe
Do you think it’s a good time to get a 100mm-400mm? Do you think there will be an update to it soon?
Super tough to know what else they’ll update next
I hope the 100400GM2 will come out Q4 2022 / Q2 2023?
Electronics gets better and better. If you can wait. Then wait. If you cant and just want to use it now enjoy it now. Then go for it.
Awesome video. I think the shot when you walked out the tunnel wasn’t the 70-200
Thank you!
That one was still the 70-200! That one was particularly fun because I had to walk all over those rocks a bunch of times to set up the camera and head back into the tunnel haha.
@@dunnadidit I can imagine lol.
The production quality of your videos is incredible, especially considering it's a one man job.
Thanks so much Andrei!
That establishing shot with the waterfall at 2:07, looks like a different lense 🤔
Not quite! That one was still the 70-200
@@dunnadidit LoL I only notice that a little after I post when I saw in ur video u had a shot of the back of the camera of that scene.
For me since I made the shift to GM prime lenses 2 years ago, I rarely use my MK1 GM's 16-35, 24-70, 70-200. As my default configuration in my 10Lt Peak design Sling have A7RIII & A7IV and 24, 50 & 135 GM lenses.
Be interesting seeing a test of the MK2 GM's vs GM Primes for sharpness, as my 135GM has became my semi telephoto lense for now.
how well does this work with the A7iii?
It would be great!
Worth every single cent and more! It can't be said about v1 (it was a 90% job).
im love it so much
Does that mean the other version will go down in price? Been meaning to buy one for a while now
It might!
@@dunnadidit fingers crossed it does haha 🤞🏻
I live on the "Wet" Coast of Canada, Gibsons B.C/ Vancouver area. What kind of jacket is that? I could maybe get 9 or 10 of those instead of this lens. lol. No, but really, what kind is it? :)
My random guess is that the shot at 2:07 wasn't shot on the 70-200. You gonna reveal it?
Haha it’s a fjallraven and I’m a bit embarrassed to say you might only get like 6 of these jackets for the price of that lens (why did I spend so much on a jacket haha). Haha you’re about 10 seconds early on the guess.
@@dunnadidit Nothing wrong with having nice gear, tech or wear, you get what you pay for. I have a music rehearsal/event space that has the odd Sample Sale, I wish fjallraven would reach out. ;)
ahhh.. ok, I thought that was the shot at first and someone else commented. I thought you might have been sneaky and shot the camera/lens shot with another lens on your A1 to fool everyone. (good idea for a future, "Guess which shot...")
Haha it’s reverse psychology I guess… you expected me to be tricky, but it was actually more obvious than that lol
Best Lens Ever
my dream
I bought this lens and it hurt my wallet but worth it. I shoot wedding mostly solo so I put this on the camera on my tripod and leave it in the back and zoom it at the couple and officient and the 24-70 on the gimbal and I’m all set for the wedding ceremony.
How much do you get pay for it? I would want to try a wedding shootout
Tried to shoot some dance videos, is it good for it? cheers
You would need to be pretty far away from the camera to get the full body in there. It would give you a cool compression effect that I’ve been seeing on lots of reels/TikTok dance videos though lately.
I want one 🙂 for shooting equestrian sports and wildlife.
Gorgeous ❤️🥰
Thank you!!
cool lens. the one thing I don't like about Nikon lenses is it's hard to do manual focusing. Sony seems to have done a good job balancing all the features with their lenses.
11:08 it appears as if the focal plane at 171mm F2.8 is so narrow that the tip of your nose and the back of your ears are out of focus
unless you had two lenses i think the clip of the camera taking a photo was shot on a different lens
Amazing lense, great functionality but unfortunately I don’t have any more kidneys left to sell💰💰
how would you compare this to the Tamron 35-150? I know it's not apples to apples but 🤷🏾♂️
That’s tough, the range on the 35-150 is super useful, but boy is it heavy.
70200GM2 + 1.4x (98-280mm f4) / 2.0x (140-400mm f5.6) will give longer reaches. I played with my friends' Tamron 35-150 f2 / 2.8 which is fine but not something I would use often. The f2 at the wider ends doesn't make my work easier as I tend to use Samyang AF 50 II, 85 and 135 primes more often + my 1635GM / 70200GM.
Option 1 or 2? (1) Sony 70-200 and 200-600 or (2) the new Sigma 60-600?
I'll never be able to afford that. I'll just drool
I want to get into photography but it’s so expensive
Got mine in Korea for $800
11200 in my country huhuhu
I really wish your reviews on camera related gear are in circulation to purchase otherwise it’s just pointless to show a product that can’t be found anywhere. Can you only do reviews who’s product is well distributed?
It’s not really up to me. I do reviews as I can get ahold of things. But the shipping issues that are happening right now aren’t really under my control. Also, my videos stay up forever so sometimes you might see them when things are available and other times they might not be… 🤷🏻♂️ it’s nearly impossible to predict when products will be available.
I can help with your question, yes its worth it
My guess will be 1:53 was not the sony lens ... =P