I play competitive games at high level on a 32 inch, 1440p, 1800 curved monitor (85 cm eye distance) and I have to say that when you adapt on 32 inches, it is even better in competitive games. I play WoW pvp arenas (rank 17 world last season) Overwatch (GM) and WZ (2 K/D). In WoW it's all about tracking the UI/add-ons, you can have that UI much bigger at 32 inches and it's easier to see it. In OW/WZ targets are bigger so you can see them much better which is very useful at longer ranges. You also don't have to be glued to the monitor, which is good for eyes and your posture. I know people say you have to move your eyes, but if you play 24-27 inches, you can see all.. but check out any pro gamer, they moves their eyes all the time also. I will definitely buy the AW3225QF.
Ive been searching for a few days if getting that monitor would be good for esports (valorant and such) because i also play a lot of red dead redemption and wanted to know if it was worth it lol. Thanks for this comment that gave me more answers than any of the subreddits i read.
This video was phenomenally thoughtful and well organized, I will definitely refer anyone I know who’s looking to purchase a new monitor here as a starting point. I’ve been following your monitor reviews for years (was an early adopter of G Sync) and appreciate all you guys have done to raise the bar for monitor related content.
In my country there is a 25 inch 1440p monitor called thunderobot lq25f165. It is the cheapest 1440p 165hz ips monitor sold here but there are no global reviews on it. But I saw some chinese reviews and it seems like its a very good panel from BOE and it is pretty color accurate. Would love to see some international review some day
- Native 3840 x 2160 resolution - Flat Screen - "Woled with MLA" or "Quantum Dot Oled" panel - Glossy Finish - DisplayPort 2.1a with UHBR20 (80 Gbit/second) - HDMI2.1a - USB Type C and/or USB 4 - Dolby Vision - HDR10+ - At least 240 Mhz refresh rate (preferably 480 Mhz) - 1 mili second response time (max) - At least 4 years burn in warranty - Good Gamut - Future Proof Firmware - At least 270 nits full screen Brightness - Text Clarity - Reasonable retail price ... - No speaker - No remote - No smart tv software - No netflix/disney/hulu software bloat - No voice-ip - No satellite receiver - No sound decoder - No nothing
The forthcoming 32" 4K 240Hz QD-OLED monitors coming in Q1 this year are very close to these requirements - well, semi glossy coating as opposed to fully glossy. MSI, Asus and Gigabyte for instance have flat format models coming. Gigabyte's model has DP 2.1 with apparently UHB20 speeds, although I expect that will cause delays to its release. DP 2.1 isn't needed though for these specs, so I wouldn't let that requirement put you off the others: tftcentral.co.uk/articles/when-is-displayport-2-1-going-to-be-used-on-monitors Info on those new models in this round up: czcams.com/video/NTHv_CVeiFU/video.html
It would have been nice to have some more specific guidelines for sitting distance and corresponding ideal screen size (e.g. "4-6' away, 32 inch screen" or something like that).
Unfortunately my dream panel was not released this year, but Alienware did release it in a 27 inch body. I'm talking about a 32 inch 1440p 360hz OLED. 32 inch is more immersive than 27. 1440p is also comfortable for productivity and with VRR you can still downscale to 4K with the same quality of a 1:1 pixel 4K monitor. 2025 will be a crescendo year.
@@rouensk 4K you need to squint your eyes for productivity. I use 1440p 32inch now and unless your really up close you cant notice any lower PPI but its a non issue with QDOled which has PPI boost technology. In 1440 games run much smoother.
Been using a 1080p 27 inch as a 1440p with nvidia and amd super resolution. I want a IPS, 27-32 inch, 175hz+. 1080p or 1440p. Honestly for productivity, radeon super resolution is better than nvidia dynamic super resolution. Text readable even higher than 1440p(on my 1080p monitor) at 100% windows scaling. For that reason alone 4k is worthless. 1440p is nice, but I'd prioritize refresh rate, contrast and color over it.
I am waiting for either the lg or asus dual mode 4k @ 240hz that also runs 1080p @ 480hz oled I don't need qd oled especially now after seeing all the post people are making on the dell 4k 240hz qd oled that just released this month over on reddit
I want 31.5", but am not sure if 240 Hz OLED will be enough for FPS games on mouse and keyboard, especially when flicking. Also, I am afraid that 480 Hz OLED will still be a slideshow when flicking and I am trading size for little benefit. Also, I will not be able to test these before buying. Any tips please?
are you worried about the frame rates / end to end system latency then with a 240Hz compared with say, a 540Hz TN Film esports screen. I'm not sure i follow the point about a 480Hz OLED though, that should offer the best of both worlds really,
@@tftcentral I'm worried about motion clarity on fast mouse / camera movements. 240 Hz OLED i'm sure is fine for racing games. but what about first person shooters? especially tracking enemies when flicking. i want everything to look fluid. 27" is a bit small, but I guess I can live with it if I have to
@MrRolandla visually a 240Hz OLED is very similar to a 360Hz but that means if you’re super competitive there are some faster options out there. Eg the 540Hz Asus PG248QP. But there’s big trade offs then in size, resolution, PQ, HDR support etc. really depends on your level of gaming and priorities. The forthcoming 360Hz and 480hz OLEDs should look even better and clearer though so are maybe worth hanging on for
Dont get an oled if u use dark mode in windows, the dark gray shades will look dirty, ie will display horizontal darker lines all over the dark gray shades, like when u have an folder open and the empty space will look very "dirty". Loved my oled in gaming but for desktop use forget it if u are heavy desktop user in dark mode.
@@tftcentral I strongly disagree, I had Dell UP3218K for several years and I played in 8K with 2080 Ti SLI. 4090 is way more powerful and if the game is very demanding e.g. Alan Wake 2 there is always a DLSS/FSR option.
For some games it will be ok but that’s a super demanding resolution. And it will also severely limit your refresh rate options. I should have qualified it further by saying “not ideal for some genres and types of gaming”
This helped but choosing is still tough with all the competition and pricing. Thank you, looking for 34 inch curved but you swayed me to 32 inch and thinking Samsung. Any help would be good and yes for gaming but not competitive.
The Odyssey G7 is a popular option from Samsung in that size. The Odyssey Neo G8 is also an option Although higher end and more expensive with 4K and Mini LED backlight. Reviews of both here tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/samsung_odyssey_g7_c32g75t tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/samsung-odyssey-neo-g8
You are a hidden gen on CZcams. I have a 27" 2560x1440 IPS panel that is pretty darn good, but i play a lot of modern AA and retro (late 90s to early 2000) games. These few dual mode 4k and 1080p monitors coming out. Do you have thoughts on them? Some of my older games look better in 1080p than 1440p. Oh and i play almost exclusively single player RPG, RTS, point-and-click plus a few 3rd person shooters. Stellaris and CK3 are the only online games i play
I think those could suit you very well tbh, assuming you’re primarily using your display for gaming and dynamic content. Would give you all the benefits of OLED, an upgrade in res to 4K when you want higher detail, and then also support 1080p at insanely high refresh rates. The models coming from LG and Asus should be well worth a look! (Covered in our CES round up video if you need more)
@@tftcentral yep I saw those and am looking forward to you and/or Monitors Unboxed to cover them. I still use my computer for productivity tasks, but it's not very much so I think it would be grand. I use to be afraid of the GPU power need for 4k (I have a 6950XT), but honestly think 4k 60hz/fps locked will be grand...I can always turn settings down or use FSR as needed. Do you plan to cover those screens?
Would you say the Samsung Neo G9 49inch is still a good monitor for gaming and productivity in 2024? I think it came out in 2021…but it’s mini LED which should work well for work from home people.
@Junga1234 only for gaming monitors by size, but you might find something in there that’s suitable tftcentral.co.uk/recommendations/tftcentral-recommendations-list-gaming-monitors
If a panel claims 1000 nits at a 3% window, does that mean it’s capable of showing that 1000 nits on multiple areas at once? For instance, sparks flying through the air. Would each spark be able to hit that peak brightness?
No, although the 3% window is a fairly large size actually relative to things like sparks. Basically it's a proxy for the overall APL (average picture level), so the equivalent of if 3% of the screen was white, and the rest was black. it's obviously an unrealistic real-world use case, and just uses as an indication. So it will really depend in your scenario how bright the overall image is, what else is on the screen (it won't be black) and things like that
@@tftcentral I see. The PG32UQX really blew my mind whenever I saw sparks from an explosion. The haloing was too much for me though. I really hope these new 32” OLEDs coming this year will be bright enough for me to upgrade from my 27Uq
Gonna be honest 1080p at 24 inches is nowhere close to what I'd consider diminishing returns in terms of pixel density, even 1440p isn't. Having used 27 inch 4k and 24 inch 1440p office displays, I'd be happy to have 4k in the 24 or 25 inch format, especially for a high end gaming setup. Pixel density matters.
If the 39” 5120x2160 240Hz OLED variants have good text clarity, I’ll be grabbing one when they launch. It’ll be about time some decent PPI high refresh ultra wide monitors become available. I would have already gotten a 57” Neo G9, but the only GPU capable of that resolution at a reasonable fps is limited to using it at 120Hz.
this one? innocn.com/products/innocn-32-oled-4k-computer-monitor-32q1u If so, that will have DP 1.4, it doesn't need 2.1 at all. It's only 60Hz refresh rate!
@@tftcentrali think he refers to this video that surfaced apparently at ces 2024 of a "super glossy" innocn (titan?) 32 inch qd oled with a similar curve to the aw3225qf. There is no other information than this video when I last checked. Can try finding the link if you would want it, but as there is no release date, it would not matter.
Do you reckon now is a good time to buy the ASUS PG27AQN? I'm a bit reluctant to get one at the moment, as the recent news about an upcoming ASUS PG27 monitor with G-Sync Pulsar has really caught my attention. Seems like a close to perfect solution for someone who would use the monitor for both gaming (comp fps and AAA titles) and office work. The cynic in me just doesn't see ASUS releasing a firmware update to bring Pulsar to 'older' monitors, like they did for ULMB 2. Thoughts on whether I should bite the bullet on a PG27AQN now, or if I should wait for at least more news/details on the upcoming PG27?
The G-sync Pulsar tech definitely won't be coming to any existing/older models I'm afraid, as NVIDIA have confirmed that it requires a hardware addition to the G-sync module. I expect the forthcoming "PG27 series" screen to basically be an update to the existing PG27AQN, 27" IPS with 1440p and 360Hz so maybe worth hanging on to see more about that. unless you can find the PG27AQN at a great price in the meantime
I would ask you, since I have 2 screens now (new PC user one year), if you would rather wait for the 34 or 39 inch LG or Asus monitor or go with one if the 32 inch models in 4k. I am really curious about the immersiveness of the curved monitors, but am a little afraid of motion sickness (if that's a thing) and somehow i do still want to use at least 1 of the two for writing and reading (work). Was first waiting for the 32 inch QD-OLEDs and use 3 monitors, but I then realized that I want more immersion and preferably on an OLED, whichever one that does the job. But it could be "too small" but 42 inch seems unreasonable on a desk.
@@tftcentral yeah exactly as you wrote, I was planning on having one or both vertically and/or one horizontally with the new screen in the middle. Got real good hardware available, but never tried curved and kind of avoided it and waited for something really good in the 32 inch range. But there has to be a reason they still sell the bigger curved ones and the recently introduced Asus 34 inch woke my interest. It's a range of titles, AAA but also pixelart (sometimes revisiting real old titles too).. I guess a little patience for the 32 inch LG and Asus this summer would be good and for comparison with the 32 inch QD-OLED monitors. By then my mind is perhaps made up about 32, 34 and 38-39 inch sizes. Glad to see new content as always and thanks for trying to help!
@nathanaelniklaus2981 I think the ultrawide models might serve you nicely here and they’re a really good format for something a bit different. Do the games you play support the 21:9 aspect ratio? If so, they can be really good. In my opinion curved is better and appropriate for an ultrawide although the new Asus 34” is a particularly steep curve at 800R so that’s quite extreme. The first gen 34” OLED monitors are much more subtle. Maybe worth hanging on for a bit this year to see how the new 34” and 39” models fare, and it looks like there may be a couple of new ones released with less of a curve too (eg a model from Gigabyte). Panel info pending
Im really struggling to pick a monitor. I havent had a new desktop monitor sonce the early 2000s and it of course wasn't a "gaming" monitor. Looking for a great gaming monitor that still has decent text clarity as it will likely be my only monitor. I dont do a lot of work from home, but when i do it is text based. While I'd love an oled, i feel my use case may make it impractical. Games are mostly single player RPG, but I have an eclectic taste in games. I dont want to buy more than my computer will handle. Size wise thinking 32" curved, though could be persuaded to 27 or 34. Desk sits right next to a window. Screen will be perpendicular to it. However there are blinds and a curtain with decent ability to block light if needed. Comp specs: i7 13700k 3060Ti w/ 8gb vram 32gb ram I'd really appreciate recommendations that aren't overkill for my computer. Thanks!
I would personally recommend getting a flat format if you're going to go with 27" or 32", or curved if it's an ultrawide (not TOO curved though). Curved on a 32" 16:9 is a bit overkill in my opinion and makes it more problematic for the text work you'd be doing. You could maybe look at the 1440p resolution 32" or 27" models as those would be easier to drive from your system than a 4K resolution, and i imagine would still be a nice upgrade compared with your old monitor. What screen/resolution/size do you have at the moment?
@tftcentral I'm currently using my 55in 4k TV or my 15in 1080p laptop screen. But the TV is not a gaming TV, nor is it really set up well for what I have. Previously, I was using I believe a 17-inch monitor, but not with this pc, which I built in Japan. Didn't have room for a monitor there, so I started using my TV and recently moved back to the States where I have a good desk space and just need a monitor. So, really, anything is an upgrade. Thanks for your recommendations!
The new Alienware (Samsung) OLED versus the new Dell Thunderbolt IPS screens… which would you choose for 50/50 MS Office and sim gaming? The screen stays on for most of the day, so burn-in is an issue… but the OLED has double the refresh rate and is much cheaper (and is presumably better technology). A very confusing choice…
@@tftcentral The Alienware AW3225QF (i.e. Samsung 3rd gen QD-OLED) versus the Dell Ultrasharp 34 Curved Thunderbolt Hub IPS Monitor (U3425WE). A good gaming vs productivity shootout?
Currently have 24'' 1440p 165hz TN (bought 2016) from Aoc, I just need the same size and resolution with an updated panel because of the pixel density. 4k is overkill for me unless its on a bigger monitor which i don't need.
I really like the new asus 34 ultra wide oled monitor with 800r curve ( PG34WCDM) but still on the fence because there are games that do not support ultrawide and I want a monitor for general usage.
Yo aun no entiendo como hay tanta gente que se niega a ver las ventajas de pasar a un monitor de 21:9. Es otro mundo y encima con toda la gama de monitores que están por salir en ese aspecto con el máximo de prestaciones. A ver si abrís los ojos de una vez.
Their pixel density is low so they tend to be better for gaming from a more distant viewing position, but they’re certainly nice for immersion. We reviewed the Corsair Xeneon Flex which was interesting as you could have the best of both worlds with a curve for some situations, and a flat format for others
Hello! hoping you can help, just bought an LG oled 27GR95QE monitor, watched your vid on them and it was very helpful however I can't get into care settings despite tapping the monitor button on the remote, any ideas?
@@tftcentral gotcha yeah when I tap that button it says 'that function is not available now' so maybe I have an issue there...all good thank you for responding and heck you ain't LG tech support I'll go bug them. Great vids thank you!
An A-TW polarizer can help with the off-angle glow on IPS panels, although it's pretty rare to find it on modern monitors. A few being released by LG themselves with it though which is a positive sign
Holding out for a 'unicorn' glossy WOLED. There must be one coming. Some day. Somewhere. Somehow. Either that or I really need LG to release a C3/C2 'Mini.'
Dough have a 27" 1440p 240Hz model going in to mass production at the moment which should be available soon that has a glossy glass coating: tftcentral.co.uk/news/doughs-27-glossy-oled-monitor-is-now-the-spectrum-black-with-glass-coating-in-partnership-with-corning Also planning a 32" 4K 240Hz model further down the line but not sure on timescales: tftcentral.co.uk/news/dough-announce-the-worlds-first-31-5-4k-240hz-oled-monitor-with-glossy-and-matte-coating-options If these grab your interest, you can also buy their screens from major retailers nowadays like Amazon, B&H etc so that gives more reassurance around purchasing. I'd also suggest checking latest views and user reports from Reddit, as (I'm sure someone will chip in soon in reply to this very post) they have a....questionable past
I think it was just fairly niche in popularity. I like it too, in fact that’s one of my common daily monitor choices. Those new OLED look great though don’t they?
@@tftcentral Not seeing *any* 1600p OLED mentioned in that video.. I'd love a (non-UW) 16:10 (1600p) display, but they just don't exist excepting some laptop screens.
I will NEVER understand why there is a gap in the market for 1440p 25'' for competitive with an insane ppi/inch ratio and sharpness/resolution almost 4k-like but not as heavy for the GPU while having the benefit of smaller screen with perfect peripheral vision. Just Imagine a 25'' 1440p 300hz Oled panel with instant pixel responce, 0 video input lag, 0% motion overshoot/ ghostin , perfect peripheral vision, insane sharpness and a more realistic 300hz being maxed out by an rtx4090 literally for every single game in the market. THESE SPECS ^ ARE A GOLD MINE WAITING FOR THE 2ST COMPANY TO MAKE SHTLOADS OF MONEY OVER NIGHT.
What I'm looking forward to with OLED is pixel response time. I heard a 120Hz OLED looks as smooth as a 360Hz LCD. That suggests a 60fps game on an OLED could look as smooth as if it were 180fps on an LCD.
It's a 1.5 ratio, so a 120Hz OLED would be equivalent to a 180Hz LCD. A 240Hz OLED would be equivalent to a 360Hz LCD and so on. But the good thing is that there's no worry about overshoot at all, or changing response time performance during VRR or at lower refresh rates.
Yo tengo el Predator X35 desde que salió a la venta y nunca he podido ser más feliz que con esa compra. He podido aprovechar desde muy temprano las últimas prestaciones del mercado, como esos 200 hz en un monitor panorámico, un HDR de casi 1100 nits reales y un FALD de 512 zonas independientes, unos negros casi perfectos... Ahora estoy pensando en cambiarlo por el nuevo Asus PG39 o el Predator X39. Encima hoy en día ya suelen ser más baratos. En su momento, el Predator X35, al igual que el Asus PG35 fueron una novedad mundial muy bestia y te lo hicieron pagar.
The "best" entirely depends on your requirements and uses. The guidance in this video should at least help you narrow down the size, res, refresh rate and panel tech most suited to your needs hopefully :)
As of now I think I might want to go with 32 inches oleds since pg42uq still feel big for my usage. I have not decide if I should wait for the current quantum dots offering or wait for the high refresh models coming later this year. I got a 540hz monitor already so maybe 480hz mode 1080p is not that important? (Also, 1080p at 32 inch probably looks really bad..)
Can u please recommend some gaming monitors which go “really” low in brightness? I recently bought an IPS 100 Hz monitor from MSI, & it’s too bright even on 0% brightness level 🫣 Is 27 inch Odyssey G5 from Samsung any better for me?😭
I play competitive games at high level on a 32 inch, 1440p, 1800 curved monitor (85 cm eye distance) and I have to say that when you adapt on 32 inches, it is even better in competitive games. I play WoW pvp arenas (rank 17 world last season) Overwatch (GM) and WZ (2 K/D). In WoW it's all about tracking the UI/add-ons, you can have that UI much bigger at 32 inches and it's easier to see it. In OW/WZ targets are bigger so you can see them much better which is very useful at longer ranges. You also don't have to be glued to the monitor, which is good for eyes and your posture. I know people say you have to move your eyes, but if you play 24-27 inches, you can see all.. but check out any pro gamer, they moves their eyes all the time also. I will definitely buy the AW3225QF.
Thanks for the input and sharing your experience 👍
Ive been searching for a few days if getting that monitor would be good for esports (valorant and such) because i also play a lot of red dead redemption and wanted to know if it was worth it lol. Thanks for this comment that gave me more answers than any of the subreddits i read.
This video was phenomenally thoughtful and well organized, I will definitely refer anyone I know who’s looking to purchase a new monitor here as a starting point. I’ve been following your monitor reviews for years (was an early adopter of G Sync) and appreciate all you guys have done to raise the bar for monitor related content.
Really glad it was helpful and thank you for the feedback and kind words 😀
In my country there is a 25 inch 1440p monitor called thunderobot lq25f165. It is the cheapest 1440p 165hz ips monitor sold here but there are no global reviews on it. But I saw some chinese reviews and it seems like its a very good panel from BOE and it is pretty color accurate. Would love to see some international review some day
Dude!! 1440p 25" !! Too bad it's only 165hz, but if it were 360hz or 480hz, that would be the dream FPS monitor.
This was really helpful dude.
- Native 3840 x 2160 resolution
- Flat Screen
- "Woled with MLA" or "Quantum Dot Oled" panel
- Glossy Finish
- DisplayPort 2.1a with UHBR20 (80 Gbit/second)
- HDMI2.1a
- USB Type C and/or USB 4
- Dolby Vision
- HDR10+
- At least 240 Mhz refresh rate (preferably 480 Mhz)
- 1 mili second response time (max)
- At least 4 years burn in warranty
- Good Gamut
- Future Proof Firmware
- At least 270 nits full screen Brightness
- Text Clarity
- Reasonable retail price
...
- No speaker
- No remote
- No smart tv software
- No netflix/disney/hulu software bloat
- No voice-ip
- No satellite receiver
- No sound decoder
- No nothing
The forthcoming 32" 4K 240Hz QD-OLED monitors coming in Q1 this year are very close to these requirements - well, semi glossy coating as opposed to fully glossy. MSI, Asus and Gigabyte for instance have flat format models coming. Gigabyte's model has DP 2.1 with apparently UHB20 speeds, although I expect that will cause delays to its release. DP 2.1 isn't needed though for these specs, so I wouldn't let that requirement put you off the others:
tftcentral.co.uk/articles/when-is-displayport-2-1-going-to-be-used-on-monitors
Info on those new models in this round up: czcams.com/video/NTHv_CVeiFU/video.html
Thank you friend.
After (at least 3,5 years of waiting) good times are approaching us.
Hopefully, everybody can be happy with their new monitor.
It would have been nice to have some more specific guidelines for sitting distance and corresponding ideal screen size (e.g. "4-6' away, 32 inch screen" or something like that).
Burn in can come from static content in gaming too like the health bar for oled
Unfortunately my dream panel was not released this year, but Alienware did release it in a 27 inch body. I'm talking about a 32 inch 1440p 360hz OLED. 32 inch is more immersive than 27. 1440p is also comfortable for productivity and with VRR you can still downscale to 4K with the same quality of a 1:1 pixel 4K monitor. 2025 will be a crescendo year.
1440p on 32" with OLED subpixel layout will NOT be comfortable for productivity. With low PPI, text and border fringing will be very noticable.
@@rouensk 4K you need to squint your eyes for productivity. I use 1440p 32inch now and unless your really up close you cant notice any lower PPI but its a non issue with QDOled which has PPI boost technology. In 1440 games run much smoother.
Been using a 1080p 27 inch as a 1440p with nvidia and amd super resolution.
I want a IPS, 27-32 inch, 175hz+.
1080p or 1440p.
Honestly for productivity, radeon super resolution is better than nvidia dynamic super resolution.
Text readable even higher than 1440p(on my 1080p monitor) at 100% windows scaling.
For that reason alone 4k is worthless.
1440p is nice, but I'd prioritize refresh rate, contrast and color over it.
hi. can you review the 27 qd msi va rapid? how different is from the g7? or the same gtg?
Gonna buy my first ever qd OLED just not sure which one
lots coming out of CES that are worth looking at! czcams.com/video/NTHv_CVeiFU/video.html
I am waiting for either the lg or asus dual mode 4k @ 240hz that also runs 1080p @ 480hz oled I don't need qd oled especially now after seeing all the post people are making on the dell 4k 240hz qd oled that just released this month over on reddit
Yeah that look very tasty!
I want 31.5", but am not sure if 240 Hz OLED will be enough for FPS games on mouse and keyboard, especially when flicking. Also, I am afraid that 480 Hz OLED will still be a slideshow when flicking and I am trading size for little benefit. Also, I will not be able to test these before buying. Any tips please?
are you worried about the frame rates / end to end system latency then with a 240Hz compared with say, a 540Hz TN Film esports screen. I'm not sure i follow the point about a 480Hz OLED though, that should offer the best of both worlds really,
@@tftcentral I'm worried about motion clarity on fast mouse / camera movements. 240 Hz OLED i'm sure is fine for racing games. but what about first person shooters? especially tracking enemies when flicking. i want everything to look fluid. 27" is a bit small, but I guess I can live with it if I have to
@MrRolandla visually a 240Hz OLED is very similar to a 360Hz but that means if you’re super competitive there are some faster options out there. Eg the 540Hz Asus PG248QP. But there’s big trade offs then in size, resolution, PQ, HDR support etc. really depends on your level of gaming and priorities. The forthcoming 360Hz and 480hz OLEDs should look even better and clearer though so are maybe worth hanging on for
@@tftcentral do you think there will be a big difference in motion clarity between 240 Hz and 480 Hz OLEDs?
@MrRolandla it will be noticeable yes, especially for competitive gamers and those with a keen eye/ high sensitivity
Dont get an oled if u use dark mode in windows, the dark gray shades will look dirty, ie will display horizontal darker lines all over the dark gray shades, like when u have an folder open and the empty space will look very "dirty". Loved my oled in gaming but for desktop use forget it if u are heavy desktop user in dark mode.
Very well done video thanks a ton!
All I want is 8K 32" monitor, 7680x4320 is 4 times more sharp as 4K.
True, but not ideal for gaming :)
@@tftcentral I strongly disagree, I had Dell UP3218K for several years and I played in 8K with 2080 Ti SLI. 4090 is way more powerful and if the game is very demanding e.g. Alan Wake 2 there is always a DLSS/FSR option.
For some games it will be ok but that’s a super demanding resolution. And it will also severely limit your refresh rate options. I should have qualified it further by saying “not ideal for some genres and types of gaming”
This helped but choosing is still tough with all the competition and pricing. Thank you, looking for 34 inch curved but you swayed me to 32 inch and thinking Samsung. Any help would be good and yes for gaming but not competitive.
The Odyssey G7 is a popular option from Samsung in that size. The Odyssey Neo G8 is also an option Although higher end and more expensive with 4K and Mini LED backlight. Reviews of both here
tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/samsung_odyssey_g7_c32g75t
tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/samsung-odyssey-neo-g8
Question do you leave yor MSI 342C in long run and do you love the monitor im thinking about buying it.
Great info as always, thank you!!!
You are a hidden gen on CZcams. I have a 27" 2560x1440 IPS panel that is pretty darn good, but i play a lot of modern AA and retro (late 90s to early 2000) games. These few dual mode 4k and 1080p monitors coming out. Do you have thoughts on them? Some of my older games look better in 1080p than 1440p. Oh and i play almost exclusively single player RPG, RTS, point-and-click plus a few 3rd person shooters. Stellaris and CK3 are the only online games i play
I think those could suit you very well tbh, assuming you’re primarily using your display for gaming and dynamic content. Would give you all the benefits of OLED, an upgrade in res to 4K when you want higher detail, and then also support 1080p at insanely high refresh rates. The models coming from LG and Asus should be well worth a look! (Covered in our CES round up video if you need more)
@@tftcentral yep I saw those and am looking forward to you and/or Monitors Unboxed to cover them. I still use my computer for productivity tasks, but it's not very much so I think it would be grand. I use to be afraid of the GPU power need for 4k (I have a 6950XT), but honestly think 4k 60hz/fps locked will be grand...I can always turn settings down or use FSR as needed. Do you plan to cover those screens?
Yes definitely hope to review them when launched
@@tftcentral I am so glad to hear that! I'm sure I might be in a niche, butt they really seem to serve more than competitive gamers
Would you say the Samsung Neo G9 49inch is still a good monitor for gaming and productivity in 2024? I think it came out in 2021…but it’s mini LED which should work well for work from home people.
Yeah still a very good monitor. Not really been much newer in that Mini LED space as all the investment has been in oled really.
@Junga1234 only for gaming monitors by size, but you might find something in there that’s suitable
tftcentral.co.uk/recommendations/tftcentral-recommendations-list-gaming-monitors
If a panel claims 1000 nits at a 3% window, does that mean it’s capable of showing that 1000 nits on multiple areas at once? For instance, sparks flying through the air. Would each spark be able to hit that peak brightness?
No, although the 3% window is a fairly large size actually relative to things like sparks. Basically it's a proxy for the overall APL (average picture level), so the equivalent of if 3% of the screen was white, and the rest was black. it's obviously an unrealistic real-world use case, and just uses as an indication. So it will really depend in your scenario how bright the overall image is, what else is on the screen (it won't be black) and things like that
@@tftcentral I see. The PG32UQX really blew my mind whenever I saw sparks from an explosion. The haloing was too much for me though. I really hope these new 32” OLEDs coming this year will be bright enough for me to upgrade from my 27Uq
Great, as usual. Thank you!
Planning on one of the 32" QD-OLED displays, just waiting for the reviews to start rolling in. The MSI and Samsung are of the most interest so far.
Yeah they do look interesting! Hoping to review the MSI models when available 😀
@@tftcentralthe new alienware 324k oled a good option??
Looks to be good although we’ve not reviewed it yet as Europe release isn’t until early Feb 😞
Thank you
Gonna be honest 1080p at 24 inches is nowhere close to what I'd consider diminishing returns in terms of pixel density, even 1440p isn't. Having used 27 inch 4k and 24 inch 1440p office displays, I'd be happy to have 4k in the 24 or 25 inch format, especially for a high end gaming setup. Pixel density matters.
If the 39” 5120x2160 240Hz OLED variants have good text clarity, I’ll be grabbing one when they launch. It’ll be about time some decent PPI high refresh ultra wide monitors become available. I would have already gotten a 57” Neo G9, but the only GPU capable of that resolution at a reasonable fps is limited to using it at 120Hz.
Can you present us the innocn 32" 4k oled monitor pls ? I would like to know if it has dp 2.1 or 1.4
this one? innocn.com/products/innocn-32-oled-4k-computer-monitor-32q1u
If so, that will have DP 1.4, it doesn't need 2.1 at all. It's only 60Hz refresh rate!
@@tftcentrali think he refers to this video that surfaced apparently at ces 2024 of a "super glossy" innocn (titan?) 32 inch qd oled with a similar curve to the aw3225qf. There is no other information than this video when I last checked. Can try finding the link if you would want it, but as there is no release date, it would not matter.
@nathanaelniklaus2981 ah yes I saw a bit about that. Not heard anything firmer on that one yet. I wouldn’t expect it to have DP 2.1 though tbh
Do you reckon now is a good time to buy the ASUS PG27AQN? I'm a bit reluctant to get one at the moment, as the recent news about an upcoming ASUS PG27 monitor with G-Sync Pulsar has really caught my attention. Seems like a close to perfect solution for someone who would use the monitor for both gaming (comp fps and AAA titles) and office work. The cynic in me just doesn't see ASUS releasing a firmware update to bring Pulsar to 'older' monitors, like they did for ULMB 2. Thoughts on whether I should bite the bullet on a PG27AQN now, or if I should wait for at least more news/details on the upcoming PG27?
The G-sync Pulsar tech definitely won't be coming to any existing/older models I'm afraid, as NVIDIA have confirmed that it requires a hardware addition to the G-sync module. I expect the forthcoming "PG27 series" screen to basically be an update to the existing PG27AQN, 27" IPS with 1440p and 360Hz so maybe worth hanging on to see more about that. unless you can find the PG27AQN at a great price in the meantime
Why are there no 1080p 24-25 inch OLED's? 🤔
that size is a very small segment nowadays really. Neither LG.Display nor Samsung Display have any panels planned in that size sadly
I would ask you, since I have 2 screens now (new PC user one year), if you would rather wait for the 34 or 39 inch LG or Asus monitor or go with one if the 32 inch models in 4k.
I am really curious about the immersiveness of the curved monitors, but am a little afraid of motion sickness (if that's a thing) and somehow i do still want to use at least 1 of the two for writing and reading (work).
Was first waiting for the 32 inch QD-OLEDs and use 3 monitors, but I then realized that I want more immersion and preferably on an OLED, whichever one that does the job. But it could be "too small" but 42 inch seems unreasonable on a desk.
So you mean keep one of the current LCDs for work, and then use a new oled for gaming? What kind of gaming do you play?
@@tftcentral yeah exactly as you wrote, I was planning on having one or both vertically and/or one horizontally with the new screen in the middle. Got real good hardware available, but never tried curved and kind of avoided it and waited for something really good in the 32 inch range. But there has to be a reason they still sell the bigger curved ones and the recently introduced Asus 34 inch woke my interest. It's a range of titles, AAA but also pixelart (sometimes revisiting real old titles too).. I guess a little patience for the 32 inch LG and Asus this summer would be good and for comparison with the 32 inch QD-OLED monitors. By then my mind is perhaps made up about 32, 34 and 38-39 inch sizes.
Glad to see new content as always and thanks for trying to help!
@nathanaelniklaus2981 I think the ultrawide models might serve you nicely here and they’re a really good format for something a bit different. Do the games you play support the 21:9 aspect ratio? If so, they can be really good. In my opinion curved is better and appropriate for an ultrawide although the new Asus 34” is a particularly steep curve at 800R so that’s quite extreme. The first gen 34” OLED monitors are much more subtle. Maybe worth hanging on for a bit this year to see how the new 34” and 39” models fare, and it looks like there may be a couple of new ones released with less of a curve too (eg a model from Gigabyte). Panel info pending
AW 32 OLED has been a mess so far. needs FW update asap, and idk if todays Nvidia driver update, was the updated it listed as "upcoming"
I play competitively on a 15 inch monitor with 360hz at a 720p
Im really struggling to pick a monitor. I havent had a new desktop monitor sonce the early 2000s and it of course wasn't a "gaming" monitor.
Looking for a great gaming monitor that still has decent text clarity as it will likely be my only monitor. I dont do a lot of work from home, but when i do it is text based. While I'd love an oled, i feel my use case may make it impractical.
Games are mostly single player RPG, but I have an eclectic taste in games.
I dont want to buy more than my computer will handle.
Size wise thinking 32" curved, though could be persuaded to 27 or 34.
Desk sits right next to a window. Screen will be perpendicular to it. However there are blinds and a curtain with decent ability to block light if needed.
Comp specs:
i7 13700k
3060Ti w/ 8gb vram
32gb ram
I'd really appreciate recommendations that aren't overkill for my computer. Thanks!
I would personally recommend getting a flat format if you're going to go with 27" or 32", or curved if it's an ultrawide (not TOO curved though). Curved on a 32" 16:9 is a bit overkill in my opinion and makes it more problematic for the text work you'd be doing. You could maybe look at the 1440p resolution 32" or 27" models as those would be easier to drive from your system than a 4K resolution, and i imagine would still be a nice upgrade compared with your old monitor. What screen/resolution/size do you have at the moment?
@tftcentral I'm currently using my 55in 4k TV or my 15in 1080p laptop screen. But the TV is not a gaming TV, nor is it really set up well for what I have. Previously, I was using I believe a 17-inch monitor, but not with this pc, which I built in Japan. Didn't have room for a monitor there, so I started using my TV and recently moved back to the States where I have a good desk space and just need a monitor. So, really, anything is an upgrade.
Thanks for your recommendations!
The new Alienware (Samsung) OLED versus the new Dell Thunderbolt IPS screens… which would you choose for 50/50 MS Office and sim gaming? The screen stays on for most of the day, so burn-in is an issue… but the OLED has double the refresh rate and is much cheaper (and is presumably better technology). A very confusing choice…
Which models specifically?
@@tftcentral The Alienware AW3225QF (i.e. Samsung 3rd gen QD-OLED) versus the Dell Ultrasharp 34 Curved Thunderbolt Hub IPS Monitor (U3425WE). A good gaming vs productivity shootout?
Currently have 24'' 1440p 165hz TN (bought 2016) from Aoc, I just need the same size and resolution with an updated panel because of the pixel density. 4k is overkill for me unless its on a bigger monitor which i don't need.
The AOC Q24G2A might be worth looking at and seems decent locally.link/3UXC
I really like the new asus 34 ultra wide oled monitor with 800r curve ( PG34WCDM) but still on the fence because there are games that do not support ultrawide and I want a monitor for general usage.
Using any OLED for general/office type uses isn't ideal unfortunately. It's a solid OLED screen though if you decide it will suit your needs
Yo aun no entiendo como hay tanta gente que se niega a ver las ventajas de pasar a un monitor de 21:9. Es otro mundo y encima con toda la gama de monitores que están por salir en ese aspecto con el máximo de prestaciones. A ver si abrís los ojos de una vez.
What are your thought to the 45Inch panels?
Their pixel density is low so they tend to be better for gaming from a more distant viewing position, but they’re certainly nice for immersion. We reviewed the Corsair Xeneon Flex which was interesting as you could have the best of both worlds with a curve for some situations, and a flat format for others
Hello! hoping you can help, just bought an LG oled 27GR95QE monitor, watched your vid on them and it was very helpful however I can't get into care settings despite tapping the monitor button on the remote, any ideas?
It’s one of the buttons at the bottom of the remote, that’s the only way to get in that menu iirc
@@tftcentral gotcha yeah when I tap that button it says 'that function is not available now' so maybe I have an issue there...all good thank you for responding and heck you ain't LG tech support I'll go bug them. Great vids thank you!
The ideal gaming monitor would be a 32 inch 1440p OLED, which does not exist
last but not least. Price consideration 😅
Haha well yes. Followed closely by how much you think you can get past the Mrs 🤣
ATW Polarizer ? Tell him about whether you should take it
An A-TW polarizer can help with the off-angle glow on IPS panels, although it's pretty rare to find it on modern monitors. A few being released by LG themselves with it though which is a positive sign
Holding out for a 'unicorn' glossy WOLED.
There must be one coming. Some day. Somewhere. Somehow. Either that or I really need LG to release a C3/C2 'Mini.'
Dough have a 27" 1440p 240Hz model going in to mass production at the moment which should be available soon that has a glossy glass coating: tftcentral.co.uk/news/doughs-27-glossy-oled-monitor-is-now-the-spectrum-black-with-glass-coating-in-partnership-with-corning
Also planning a 32" 4K 240Hz model further down the line but not sure on timescales: tftcentral.co.uk/news/dough-announce-the-worlds-first-31-5-4k-240hz-oled-monitor-with-glossy-and-matte-coating-options
If these grab your interest, you can also buy their screens from major retailers nowadays like Amazon, B&H etc so that gives more reassurance around purchasing. I'd also suggest checking latest views and user reports from Reddit, as (I'm sure someone will chip in soon in reply to this very post) they have a....questionable past
Yeah but I trust the legitimacy of Dough's business about as much as I trust Dr Dre's medical degree..........@@tftcentral
No, the more important question is why are there NO 1600p 21:9 OLED Ultrawides?! 😡
....yet! czcams.com/video/2L_OtIQEXOk/video.html
@@tftcentral 👀
@@tftcentral 4k OLED UW coming is very exciting. However, why does it seem the industry is abandoning the 1600p res in UWs?
I think it was just fairly niche in popularity. I like it too, in fact that’s one of my common daily monitor choices. Those new OLED look great though don’t they?
@@tftcentral Not seeing *any* 1600p OLED mentioned in that video.. I'd love a (non-UW) 16:10 (1600p) display, but they just don't exist excepting some laptop screens.
I will NEVER understand why there is a gap in the market for 1440p 25'' for competitive with an insane ppi/inch ratio and sharpness/resolution almost 4k-like but not as heavy for the GPU while having the benefit of smaller screen with perfect peripheral vision. Just Imagine a 25'' 1440p 300hz Oled panel with instant pixel responce, 0 video input lag, 0% motion overshoot/ ghostin , perfect peripheral vision, insane sharpness and a more realistic 300hz being maxed out by an rtx4090 literally for every single game in the market. THESE SPECS ^ ARE A GOLD MINE WAITING FOR THE 2ST COMPANY TO MAKE SHTLOADS OF MONEY OVER NIGHT.
What I'm looking forward to with OLED is pixel response time. I heard a 120Hz OLED looks as smooth as a 360Hz LCD. That suggests a 60fps game on an OLED could look as smooth as if it were 180fps on an LCD.
It's a 1.5 ratio, so a 120Hz OLED would be equivalent to a 180Hz LCD. A 240Hz OLED would be equivalent to a 360Hz LCD and so on. But the good thing is that there's no worry about overshoot at all, or changing response time performance during VRR or at lower refresh rates.
Yo tengo el Predator X35 desde que salió a la venta y nunca he podido ser más feliz que con esa compra. He podido aprovechar desde muy temprano las últimas prestaciones del mercado, como esos 200 hz en un monitor panorámico, un HDR de casi 1100 nits reales y un FALD de 512 zonas independientes, unos negros casi perfectos... Ahora estoy pensando en cambiarlo por el nuevo Asus PG39 o el Predator X39. Encima hoy en día ya suelen ser más baratos. En su momento, el Predator X35, al igual que el Asus PG35 fueron una novedad mundial muy bestia y te lo hicieron pagar.
I want the best, money is no objection.
The "best" entirely depends on your requirements and uses. The guidance in this video should at least help you narrow down the size, res, refresh rate and panel tech most suited to your needs hopefully :)
As of now I think I might want to go with 32 inches oleds since pg42uq still feel big for my usage. I have not decide if I should wait for the current quantum dots offering or wait for the high refresh models coming later this year. I got a 540hz monitor already so maybe 480hz mode 1080p is not that important? (Also, 1080p at 32 inch probably looks really bad..)
Can u please recommend some gaming monitors which go “really” low in brightness?
I recently bought an IPS 100 Hz monitor from MSI, & it’s too bright even on 0% brightness level 🫣
Is 27 inch Odyssey G5 from Samsung any better for me?😭
I can’t find any 2k gaming monitor with low enough brightness 🫣
You want high, not low brightness.