Bowers & Wilkins NEW Formation Audio 800 D3 McIntosh DEMO & REVIEW
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
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In this video I conclude this 3 part video series of my Bowers & Wilkins NEW Formation Wireless Speakers systems Experience Tour at Nintronics the Excellent HiFi and AV Dealership in Hertfordshire UK
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In this video I talk about and demo the Bowers & Wilkins Formation Audio using it as a digital streaming source and DAC into this amazing McIntosh system with 800 D3 speakers, Chord Co. Cabling and Quadraspire X Reference Rack. I am using Roon as a control point for the music and the Formation Audio as the Roon end point.
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Natalie Merchant Paradise is There: The New Tigerlily Recordings - geni.us/kroE2
A-Ha MTV Unplugged - Summer Solstice geni.us/Mz2X
Melody Gardot One and Only Thrill geni.us/TEdml
Stella Di Napoli - Bel Canto Arias geni.us/FHUtF3
Gabriele Aplin Light up the Dark geni.us/h1aJh
Dead Can Dance Spirit Chaser - geni.us/yw9Xf
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Breathtaking performance from an amazing combination of components in a professionally designed listening room. Just awesome, thanks Terry !
This is an awesome sounding system. No we will never be able to hear the correct sound stage and music separation through the internet but you can get an idea what they sound like in person. I'm glad you have the money to buy and enjoy what you love. Nice matching of amps to the speakers. Why work hard in life if you can't buy and enjoy what inspires you. The haters are the ones who are jealous that can't afford it. Beautiful system!
Crazy good system right there. That was definitely some of the best sound I’ve heard as far as music after it’s gone through the CZcams “filter”, so excellent job on your part, Terry. Of course I was pretty impressed with that tiny little B&W box! It obviously had some help from those beautiful B&W spkrs and McIntosh components, but still. I’m sure you’ve got all the possible headroom you’d ever need to.
Great job recording that sound, Terry. Yet another great vid. Thanks so very much!
Great review and beautiful McIntosh electronics in the system. 70 years of hi-fi-building experience right there!
Dan George I agree. McIntosh is not only the best sounding it’s the most beautiful.
Of course you can't judge quality through a video due to too many variables, but I always like these videos for new test track ideas~! I am familiar with these in person though, excellent system!
This is one top notch system!!!! The Mc's are to die for!!! The Melody Gardot album is great! Nice video!
Impressive demonstration!! First time in a while that I don't think that my DIY system in my own room is better. Somehow you managed to do a CZcams demonstration that allowed this system to shine.
I didnt do anything other than record the sound glad you liked the video :)
I agree - I've heard these speakers live on a similar system, and this captured their presentation quite well
those sounded great through my laptop speakers :)
Such a wonderful setup with awesome synergy! I had a chance to listen to 804D3 and 803D3 and it was the best sound experience I've ever had. I want the 804D3 so bad... Paired with Gato DIA-400S amp it sounds like audio heaven to me :)
❤️😌❤️😌❤️no need for introductions B&W will challenge any so called high end systems without a doubt they are the pinochle of absolute sound and design cheers 🥂🤩!!
Yes, I thought that too until I listened to a Paradigm Persona 9H. Currently I own a pair of 803D2. Wish I had the money to trade them in for a pair of the Persona.
Just listened to these at my local Best Buy... absolutely amazing
Nice recording quality Terry, well done.
I really appreciate your selections.
Those blue meters. So glad I get to see that in my listening room. Best money I’ve ever spent.👍🏾😊
Great video as per use. Good detailsalg, and love the love you have for music and hi-fi.
Question: if I have e Turntable, with build-in phono amp. a very modest one though, could I use the B&W as a booster to my existing soundsystem?
You know the phonoamp. on my turntable turned on, and then rca cable from that into B&W and then RCA further on into my existing soundsystem? As a improovement?
Has not been a massive fan of B&W speakers in the hi-end series but this sounds actually musical with this combination 👍
had the pleasure of listening to them at a demo yesterday - amplified by a hegel h590, and i can say - they sound absolutely amazing
when I hear them, it so cool and I guess in real life, it is not what I hear over youtube, but when I know the price, I know I will never have them :)
Listening to this through the earbuds that came in the cereal box
oh man they must snap crackle and pop - I wonder if you are too young for that joke
Bravo phenomenal sound thanks, Sir
Accurate to the point of being dry. I could easily spot a B&W speaker blindfold. You can see why studios love them. You either get the voicing or you don’t. They all have an ultra neutral sound. I prefer something, for want of a better term, more organic. In fairness there are better dacs, and yet I don’t think the sonic signature would change significantly with something more exotic.
They are not ultra neutral lol
What a fantastic setup
There's a Terry Dancing GIF in here somewhere.
Haha Haha
What are your thoughts of the 800 series d3 - d4 series? Are you going to compare?
Very Nice!
First and last songs omg 😲 so good. Thanks for that one mate, splendid sounding system. I just wish I could afford any of these pieces. Where can I purchase the rack?
you can buy it from dealers like Nintronics where I am here their details are in the video description. It's a top level rack I would love one
Pursuit Perfect System Thanks Terry
Great choice on Dead Can Dance. Next time, would love to know how "Ullyses" sounds.
Ive always loved the sound quality of the 800 series. But in this room...too many hard surfaces. Should have used a carpeted room and a room with acoustic treatments on the walls. The sound would have been that much better. Not that it sounded bad. Just no where near to their potential. Helped that you used a good mic to record the sound...
There is acoustuc treatment on every wall but its designed to have a rt60 time that is on the higher side
I don't work out much, but when i do, i put on Dead Can Dance for my cool down Blunt session.
A little after 24:50 when he drops that tablet you realize how much bass the speakers are lacking.
Sensational sound!
Pretty much end game for amplifiers. $150,000 a pair. Insane cone control and totally effortless. :>)
George Zubeck the amps are $25k each. The whole system perhaps will come to 150k.
Love Mcintosh. I'm on my second Mac now and the distinctive sweetness and 'solidity' of the sound keeps me coming back
@@imad1996 This is the problem with the internet, people are always saying shit.
Lovely
Looks like the left channel VU Meter is out of order.
Thank you for playing a good variety of music, I would have gone nuts if you only played jazz or blues.
What I heard is a very very clean system with a bigger than life sound stage and imaging but sounded very electronics. It sounded like the music is coming from the studio with the music chain going thru' tons of electronics in the entire post-production process. The system doesn't emit to the listener a sense of realism that is emotionally engaging! My deepest apology, really wish to give great comments to this amazingly expensive system!
that's using the £400 formation bridge as a dac dont forget that
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Thanks for sharing with me the details of your front end! I am actually contemplating on buying either the BW 800 D3 or the Magico S3, so far, it seems I am more inclining towards the Magico, but might need more hearing to make the final decision! Thanks Mate!
@@cheerfulyc7125 this is not my system this is at a dealers. I have a video coming soon for the Magico If that might be of interest
Fantastic! What are the dimensions of the room? Cheers!
The Eggelston Works Viginti would blow those 800's out of the water ...no contest!
The Eggleston are priced at twice what the Bowers cost give or take
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Agreed..........I had the these speakers and hated them!!!! The Eggelston Andrea 3 was also better.....with a midrage to die for. I could never relax to the 800D3.After my bad experience with B&W's best I will never buy again from them. The Viginti's from EGGELSTON are on order!
Nice Kombination 👍
Give me suggestion . Beat stereo amplifier and a pair of bookshelf speakers under 2000$
What is happen to bass(missing) and mids (over boost) ??? :)
I’ld love to befriend someone with a setup like this since I’ll never have the money to buy one.
Right! Then hopefully when they upgrade, they give you the “old” system lol
@Terry, you think this is good for a standalone streamer? wanna use it with my Stereo amp & B&W towers, don't plan to use Formation wireless speakers at all, is it just good enough as a streamer? Thanks.
I am sorry I dont really know, its hard to say from my short time listening to it on this system. Sorry wouldn't want to guess and get it wrong
@@PursuitPerfectSystem thanks for the heads up but on the video it does sound phenomenal..
How do you like the acoustic panels and traps can you tell me where you purchased them. Thanks 🙏
they are from the company ArtNovian
Sounds brilliant through my Sony.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
Brilliant Sound cant be a bad thing either way you look at it - and for you to hear it sound brilliant back through a recording on CZcams think about A. how it had to sound on the day and B. how good is the man AKA me for being able to record and capture it and then present it - Yes your welcome :)
@@PursuitPerfectSystem noted :)
@@Anik4Life haha :)
How is it I can get a good feel for the comparative quality in these systems and other nice systems over cheaper amplifier's you've reviewed yet I'm listening on a lowly 8000a (connected to my computer with a Dac Magic 100)with Polk Bookshelves from the 90s. Do high end manufacturers do some mojo to the sound that's just very pleasing to our ears and psycho acoustic parts of our brain, and for that reason is the sound really as pure as we are lead for believe? Either way, your videos have me itching to upgrade my system, you have me sold, now I've just got to sell the wife.
You should have played with another DAC as well for comparison. Perhaps an Schiit Yggdrasil or why not a Benchmark DAC3 (two that I am considering purchasing).
I was there for a Bowers & Wilkins event so that would have been a little unfair I am sure you will agree.
In the evening I did swop the source for a 3 component Esoteric Stack and at about 10000x the cost there was an improvement in the sound
@@PursuitPerfectSystem diminishing returns exemplified therefore. A gambler should know how far the bet should rise.
@@salvadorrodenas3071 not really if I did a comparison you would hear where the much better source sounds much better as you should expect. This demo demonstrates what the little Bowers Formation unit can do hence why the system was setup like this
I would love to hear Boléro on that system.
Red Shield - You’re not listening to “that system”. You’re listening to your own system 😀 Only way to listen to it is a dealer or a rich friend...
Super bellooo 😍😍😍😍😍
I’m using my iPhone speakers to listen this B&W demo 😂
Interesting how they don't sound any better than the 30 year old Matrix 2s I'm listening to your demo on. 🤔
Listening to a set of speakers playing through your own speakers is meningless. And via CZcams 😄
CZcams is just a data medium probably the biggest one in the world so there is no issue with CZcams, compression is not ideal but people still listen to Spotify on their hifi right??. If you have a good monitoring system it will tell you a close truth to the original recording the same as your hifi system. I bet there are people standing ther laughing at others for listening to a whole orchestra on a small pair of hifi speakers - see the irony of that and this is no different. Its recorded audio and the play back of it which is what hifi is 100%
Hello, what's the name or brand of the amp-stands please?!
Thanx 👍
Quadraspire X Reference
Sounds great on my ear buds hahaha
Are you using chord company signature speaker cable
I think it was yes
What Opera is that?
Ooo I would love the B&W D3
I had them ....and no you wouldn't!
Fender Man d2 is better imo
@@Pepniti d3's are a big thumbs down!
@@xsamitt I have the 805 d3 and I don't like them so I'm trying to find 800 d2 now
@@Pepniti Good Move!
So, get this setup or a new car...
Yu the nicest
Una lástima el ambiente colorea el sonido. Está demasiado alto para los.micrófonos que usaron
How do the D3's compare to the earlier D2's?
I'd take the D2 over the D3 anyday!
Funny you should ask...I owned the 802D2’s . I listened to the 802D3’s. My heart sank...the D3’s were sooo much better in every way! Inner detail, dynamics, soundstaging, presence, low level resolution and bass definition and extension. They will arrive soon 😁
Couple of questions .How much for this stunning system ? and these speakers vs Harbeth 40.2 ?.Thanks.
One answer about price. You ever heard the say “ If you have to ask.” 😊
@@pf5658 Yes i have.But have you ever heard ,if you dont ask ,you dont get ha ha .
@chicowasp - 😂 You’re right, but my comment was meant to be funny. Those amps are about 25k a pair and those B&Ws are about 30k a pair. That should give you an idea. Not sure what the models are of the other piece in the system, so I can’t tell you price.
@@pf5658 Funny it was .No probs.Same with my comment.Fair wack of cash then.Looks like im sticking with my Harbeth and Croft set up then .
Ihr streamt in 4K und trotzdem macht es keinen Spass das System zu hören.
Mein System: MacMini, Hugo, Lehmann BlackCube Linear, HD800
Wo liegt das Problem,....an Eurem Aufnahmesystem oder Eurem Raum?
I use medium level pro recording gear for this video, its not that
I would like to hear hip hop and edm songs on this speakers, to hear if the bass is enough or will need a separate powered sub woofer😅
😂😂😂😂😂
you'll always want a subwoofer
these should go low enough
That room sounds like the treatment isn't doing it's job. Too much reverberation.
Oneness100 yes !! Anyway they are looking awesome ; what is the brand of the room treatment pieces ? Where to buy’em ?
I want to know how the kef home theater sounds like.
give me a chance please it all takes time to put together I have got a lot of personal stuff going on right now as well to contend with which is making things hard for me to work as usual. it will be coming
@@PursuitPerfectSystem take your time Terry,
Try out some noisia
Show.
?
Really cool sounding, but this is not for my room. :)
👍♥️👍♥️👏👏👏
wasnt really review of these speakers... more like a recap of your day...
It wasnt about the speakers it was about the Bowers Formation Audio being used to stream and as a DAC in such a high end system producing this kind of end result.
No mames, las hubieras probado con la de "la bebé".
Am I supposed to be able to appreciate this amazing installation trough my iPhone speakers ? What is the point of that video ? I truly don’t understand.
Why don't you try watching the video using a good audio playback system - maybe try using some good headphones with your iphone and your experience with this video and a lot of my videos will make a lot more sense as to why I spend the time and the money on some fantastic recording equipment.
Place ear defenders on and watch it for the beauty
You must use headphones. You also have to "imagine" being in the room... Try to do that and if you can you will notice if the sound is good or not. This is obe of the best channels to enjoy hi fi that most of us would never heard. Congrats Perfect Pusrsuit System 🙂👍
If your iPhone speakers are the best you have to listen to music probably there’s no point for you to be watching this
noise floor unfortunately on my meze empyrean, system didnt sound good , perhabs the room was too small
Shame about the room acoustics. It's a very hard and woody sound. Typical McIntosh loud and hard. Otherwise nice demo. :-)
it sounded a bit warm and dark.
oh, the comebacks you have invited....
Опять эта глухомань
И ужасное подгуживание в басе, думаю с помещением прослушивания траблы. Нда...такая аппаратура и такой результат...
All of that costs more than a small house.
Overkill amplification.
there is no such thing as overkill amplification for a 30K pair of speakers, at this point u have to be on mono block, the difference is insane compared with integrated
When I said overkill, it wasn't about coupling these amps with such hungry for amps loudspeakers, it was for the type of music which doesn't overwhelm the system. Price wise they were made to each other TC.
Total shit junk, all of it, why you might ask, because I don't have it!! I am in love
one way to explain it :) haha
If it doesn’t sound like magic with that McIntosh set up behind it, the speakers suck, lol. 1.2kw is the ultimate end game amp
no no that's mismatching mcintosh => vintage sound b&w 800 d3 matching only classe amp
I thought so too but the Levinson Preamp and amp matched much better.
I just listened to a set 800 d3 with macintosh amps, considering how much they cost, I was not impressed. Very little Bass
Don't get me wrong, Music was clear but my ride home in my Audi A6 was better experience. The 804 D3 was better.
more bass does not equal better LOL I have heard these as well as over 70 pairs of speakers from 2,000 to 80,000 in person and they are phenomenal - so either they were set up incorrectly or you have zero taste in what actually sounds good
play 6ix9ine
Not a single song that would require anything from the speakers, put any stress on them
Sorry I don't believe in this theory that only certain music is worthy of testing speakers - all music has factors in it that are test worthy
@@PursuitPerfectSystem sure, but I believe we need to have a short but hard bit of music too. It is like giving your car a full gas to see if the engine is 100% healthy, not just cruising along. Anyway, thanks!
@@alexander_mmm I think that's a fair comment sorry I assume you meant its not classical so it's not good enough. Sorry my bad
@@PursuitPerfectSystem No problem! Thank you!
Are you people seriously testing a setup through some random camera mic recording, through youtube as a medium and listening through random computer speakers or headphones? Is this really happening? Are you having a laugh?
I use studio recording equipment btw
Pursuit Perfect System how marvelous
@@movergaauw not really but if you cant trust the recording of sound to give an good representation of a live audio event then what are we all doing anyway. It's the same no different
@@PursuitPerfectSystem true. so long as the receiving end allows you to hear as close the sound as possible that's all that matters
Not impressed,
Bowers is too lean and flat..
MF out of the overall balance !!! :(