Re:vibration,I have done 500 mile days riding from SE Pennsylvania to Ohio and back and now have 2600 miles on mine total without any noticeable vibration issues. I get 65 miles(US) per gallon so the range is quite good. Ergonomics make standing off-road difficult,but it is good off paved roads. I love the bike.
I think vibration is subject to each individual. I suffer riding parallel twins and have also had issues with 4 cylinder machines, whereby my hands end up in total cramp. Yet riding singles I have no issue whatsoever.
It's a trick I discovered on my first bike in the early 80's, that was a swine to find neutral and especially as a novice. I frustratingly struggled for the first few months of riding!
Wish the Japanese still made mid and large capacity singles, my favourite bikes have been Japanese singles and they are the only people who have ever made truly reliable bike's in my experience
I absolutely love mine. Barely been off it since buying. Great for commuting and longer distance playing. Pretty handy on Green lanes too (far exceeds its riders capabilities). Excited to take it further soon (lockdown permitting). I didn’t like the exhaust either, now has an aftermarket wings exhaust (road legal) sounds beautiful and looks way better.
I really liked that review... although the conclusion was very much from the mindset of an off-road rider it seems - which is fair, it is Ryan after all! But really... how many people are actually buying this type of mini adventure bike to ride much more off-road than unsurfaced roads? It’s good feedback... but I can also see it being largely irrelevant to most of the core market - learners and restricted license holders who just want an adventure styled duke that can stand a bit less tarmac really.
@@jonpram1737 I take mine off road often in the Colorado mountains. It does excellent. You just have to keep speed appropriate for the suspension travel and the trail you are on as with all bikes. Also 40 years experience of riding off and on road on all kind of bikes goes a long way enjoying any bike off road and being able to take it into the rough stuff. Just know it's not a dirt bike and not meant to be.
@@jonpram1737 I brought my KTM 390 adventure for some hard enduro. Just not enough clearance. Well if you are Chris birch you won't have any problems, if you can double blip over the logs, but then again I would just ride my wr250F. This bike is good for commuting and some simple flat track or trail riding. Nothing hardcore. That said, I like this bike
@@jonpram1737 Well, i think the off-road review is important, because this is a bike that begs to be compared to a drz400. the DRZ is of course more offroad oriented (dual sport vs adv bikes), the ktm has more gears, injection, etc. So, it's important to know that it is very road oriented instead of 50/50
@@andrewstambaugh8030 that ithe 390 Adv not a 50/50 bike u can just see on a photo. Just doesn’t have the suspension like a wr250 or crf250l. No review needed to see that. Not hating on the bike I personally think some hardcore enduro guys just shout the hardest on new adventure bike reviews.. I live in Holland so I need to ride to different countries for some proper off-road. For my money it would be the 390 all the way
Got this delivered yesterday ..what a hoot did a 150 miles up and around Kylesku and Ullapool very impressed , I think my 2019 tiger 800 may be staying in the garage.. great review.:)
Tested it in semi busy city. Loved it. Was heating a bit, but it was hot summer day. Vibrations are there, and really shouldn't. They fked up the mounting of rubbers on pegs. They should be sticked into (like in Triumph Street scrambler i.e.), instead of beeing screwed - that literally removed the whole point of these rubbers. Other then that, great bike. Missed some better sound from the pipe, and a bit of more umph would be good outside of the city. But if any1 tells you that this bike isn't big enough for city, i'm 100% they don't know how to ride a bike :) Gr8 deal if you want the plastic fresh, and no buttprint on the saddle. If that doesn't scare you, plenty of bikes on the used market, that are "better" :)
Was going to get the 390 Duke a couple of years ago to commute on. Did lots of research and found too many horror stories on reliability so went for a Ninja 400 and 10,000miles later in all weathers, the Kawasaki hasn’t missed a beat.
I got the duke, 2 years, 20,000km and just normal services, tyres, chain and sprockets to date. And it’s my every day ride to and from work, rain hail and shine. We can lane split and lane filter, and the high seat position makes that a breeze
My dear Flyer, I grew up around these roads you ride through. Being stuck here half-way across the world simply seeing you roll around brings such nostalgia back to me. Keep up the good stuff, be it motorcycles or road selection :)
i started with this one as my very first bike (i upgraded to a moto guzzi v85 by now) and it was a perfect choice decent but not too much power and super light as you mentioned, but what really stands out imo is the security the modern electronics provide for this price with the lean sensitive abs you can grab your brakes in a curve with no problem if you really need to
Owened this bike, LOVED IT! traded it for a 350 dual sport, because I thought I"d be doing more hard core enduro stuff, and ended up buying a dedicated Enduro dirt bike (KTM 250 XC-W TPI) instead, and I now miss having the 390. You get the right mods in there (ergo seat, spoked wheels, bar risers, and dirt bike style pegs... It becomes a capable off-roader, while maintaining the in tow and on road capabilities well.
Some of your comments are not aware that the way you pronounce Himalayan is the correct way. Ask the indigenous population!!! Good review of a good bike BUT not enough range for adventuring, no centre stand, (a must for rear wheel work), Uncomfortable saddle (we don't stand up all the time!!!). I'll stick with my CB500. Range 250miles plus.
CB500x has more aftermarket parts that make the bike amazing (rally raid especially) to what you want. This is more of a wannabe versys x that fails to deliver.
Great review TMF the content just keeps getting better on this channel buy far the best bike reviews out there! The bike looks a fantastic all rounder maybe a good second bike for my 1290 Superduke GT!! Haha
I will take single cylinders over twins any day, Have a DR 650, a Suzuki s40 650 single, and a Versys 300 X twin, thinking to trade the versys in for the KTM 390 Adventure, than I will have all singles. I had a Royal Enfield 500 single and loved it as well. Had to many twins and 4 to list, from 250 cc to over 1000 cc , and now all I want is singles love the sound and feel of them. By the way the KTM 390 Adventure has no competition, nothing in that size comes as equipped as the KTM 390, adjustable front shocks, and rear shocks , ABS for on road and one for off road, traction control you can turn off to name a few. That puts it in a class of its own the others, have a long way to catch up. Not that they are not good bikes they are just in a different class. KTM should of put the Dunlop TrailMax Mission tires on this bike, and I would like a larger gas tank. I can over look the gas tank but will be putting Dunlop TrailMax Mission tires on if I get one as well as the aluminum bash plate, heated grips, and side and top racks that can take the GIVI Trekker 33/46 liter bags. ( have them on my Versys and love them, also can put the 46 liter on top of my DR650.) Liked your review, but don't know why you are putting down single cylinders.
I own a a Honda fmx 650 air cooled single de- corked, flat/slide carb done many 200+mile trip love it. This bike is looking like a good replacement with equal performance better mpg lower tax..
Just got myself one last week here in India. We get it at a take home price of 3500 quid and 15 quid for a service with an oil and filter change and u can thrash it around without a worry.
Andy, I really enjoy your vlogs. Very informative, real world, and upbeat. This particular review is also well-timed, because I test rode one of these little beauties just the other day, and have pretty much decided to pony up for one. My other bike is an air-cooled T100, and while I love it to bits, it's a bit low and has rubbish suspension. With these two bikes in my garage, I'm sorted. Keep up the great work, I'm proud to be a Patreon.
Great first ride review of what could be a practical commuter, solo adventure bike and general fun tool. Looking forward to the forthcoming TMF 'dirty weekender' report. Maybe just repeat the day out that you recently aired (Range Rover to Salisbury Plain then CRF250 byway ride) as that would test both road and off road capabilities and the money you save on fuel by not using the Range Rover will pay for the comfort seat......? Looking forward to your next video on this bike, keep up the good work.
Did almost 2000 miles in 6 days riding around Scotland on my Fireblade, i was in agony by the end, recently bought on of these 390 adventures and i think it's really comfortable and have no issues with vibration
Off KTM Topic- The numbness in the hands is something I've wondered about myself, after a while on my MT-125 I'm having this issue, but it's my own fault for going out for wee cheeky half hour run & appearing home usually 3 hours later!!! 😂
The bike has a few issues, after 6500kms I have... * condensation in the tft display * condensation in the front light * play in the rear sprocket * vibrations in the front brake * ignition can be a bit fiddly to get the key to turn. ...so I'm thinking the build quality is not all that great. However, it is a lot of fun. You can be a real hooligan on the twisties. And I have taken it for a proper Norwegian adventure ride with a hammock and all camping gear, did lots of gravel roads and some light dirt. The bike performed well as long as the dirt was dry, the tires aren't really up for any mud. Can't wait to go riding again this weekend :-)
The play in the rear sprocket is normal as there are rubber inserts in the hub to reduce shock being transmitted from the sprocket to the cast aluminum wheel hub.
@@gpnmoab1 I replaced the rubber inserts on my cbr600, and there was no play after that, so I wasn’t expecting any play in a new bike. Had the dealer check the bike yesterday and like you’re saying a bit of play is normal.
@@Ocean4Life I noticed the play when I adjusted the chain after the first 400 miles. Personally I believe there should be no play, why would you design it that way? But since it was virtually new I have to assume they intended it to have play.
@@gpnmoab1 yeah, beats me too. But it’s been checked and cleared by the dealer. I noticed play in the rear sprocket in one of the shots in this video too, when he went from N to 1st. Guess it’s by design
I thought about getting 390 before I chose a z400.. only because the z was a bit lower and I needed to get my confidence on the bike back .. it worked... these size bikes are very under rated .. good to see this clear review 👌
i've had a 390duke for three years now. yes it's a lot of fun in the twisties, yes it eats traffic for breakfast, it's even a godsend on bumpy roads because of the upright position that allows to stand up on the pegs (i live in Rome and the roads are a pot-hole/pine-tree-root hell) and generally it's always satisfing when i feel a little crazy. where the little thing fails miserably is relaxed cruising. sometimes you just wanna get there you know, no fun, no throwing the fun machine around, just sit and get there... and it really doesn't have the engine. i'm seriously thinking about getting a bigger front sprocket. it'll make it less fun but a bit comfier to cruise on.
It’s great bike and it really surprised me. The first ride was a 3 hour route home largely on country lanes and it was lots of fun. I agree the seat becomes uncomfortable after about an hour and half. But all round its very capable, even on some local green lanes. Great first ride review as usual.
Cheers mate, I'm guessing you're a bit bigger than me so that's good to hear! I really enjoyed this bike, but then I loved the 390 Duke too so no real surprise I guess - thanks for watching and appearing on my channel - love your work!
I think "cutie" sums up the looks really well. Practical fun bike with a good price point. Great little all rounder. Change the can, mirrors, jobs a good un. Even the tail tidy looks alright. Thanks Andy.
I am the owner of a KTM 390 Adventure which I bought in January 2021 as my very first motorcycle. About four weeks ago, while riding on city streets, I noticed something unusual with the damping motion of the rear suspension and stopped immediately. The rear suspension was leaking fluid badly. I was able to ride back home and took the bike to the KTM dealer for a check. The KTM dealer received my bike on December 7, 2021. A month has passed, and they have no idea at all whether the faulty rear suspension is covered by the warranty and that it must be checked with the KTM factory sometime during mid-January. The bike is not in working condition and it is in their workshop since its breakdown. This is a very disappointing and frustrating situation as I bought this bike mainly because of its alleged quality suspensions and its two-year warranty. Needless to say, KTM has not lived up to my expectations as a newbie in motorcycling.
For Australian conditions where we do a lot more off road I would probably go for the Himalayan. KTM would be the better road bike. Put an Akrapovik can on the Enfield, you can play a really nice tune through the hills.
I've just bought one, its got 100 miles on it so far, brilliant little bike. been isolating since getting home so not had the chance to get out on it any more. I agree about the mirrors and exhaust entirely which are easily swapped. built-in sat nav is useful and I found a free app called "Turn by Turn" that uses whatever nav app you happen to have, I'm using TomTom, rather than the £7.99 KTM My ride one. I'm planning a trip to Normandy on mine in the spring conditions permitting.
I've had one of these new, but sold it after 3 months, absolutely terrible quality control. I had stripped threads or things threaded off centre,it burnt oil almost like petrol, no oil leaks though. First service was a joke, dealer never even changed the oil filters. TFT was replaced 3 times for condensation inside after 20 mins, gave up in the end. A common fault on 390 and 790 which KTM refuse to rectify. The quick shifter £215 option never worked properly or stopped altogether. The quick shifter btw is factory fitted to all engines , just disabled in the ECU . the £215 is for the dealer to connect his laptop and add a tick in a box to enable it. In my honest opinion, leave these alone if you don't want endless reliability issues.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thanks for the reply Andy, keep an eye out for condensation in the top corners of the tft, usually after about half an hour or so. They may listen to you as a Moto journalist if these issues raised their heads while you have it on long term review. It may help others who own these bikes. I understand there is a sizable market for a small full spec Adventure bike especially for the riders of advancing years, but no manufacturers want to do it for fear of harming sales higher up the ladder. All that said, ride safe, keep your family safe.
You know what's cute? Honda's CB350 H'Ness for India market but not for EU or US market :\... Cheeky Honda going for R.E sale while H.D leaves India market entirely. But back to the KTM, I'd much prefer the RC 390, better format for the angry single cylinder as a sports bike. It's great bike for the price though. Wish again motorcycle manufacturers use a hybrid gel'd seat from factory for seat comfort.
I'd love for Honda to make a 500 version of the H'ness for Europe. I think I'd prefer a 500 Honda retro to a 650 Enfield. The Honda would be better built with far better dealership and residuals.
@@TheMissendenFlyer I just like the single on the RC390 better. Especially on US roads. The sportier positioning and fairings makes the bike more aero so it goes past 100mphs if you're lighter than 170lb. ALL of KTM line up IMO don't look great. It's probably the weird hornet like headlights that does it for me. And here in the US KTM support and parts are as spotty as Royal Enfield. Unless you live in the West Coast. Looks and support aside the performance for value is pretty good compared to the competition.
Oooooh looking forward to this one! Long termer- lets see if it keeps going and what issues you will undoubtedly come across. Lookin soooo forward to the ktm long termer 👌🏻
Ah Wendover..... takes me back to my days at RAF Halton....I used to glide from the airfield over the Chilterns... lovely part of the world....I have GS800, KTM 950SM and a Piaggio Medley 150. Thinking to get the 390 for a bit of light fun...
@@TheMissendenFlyer When I look back I should also have taken advantage of doing my PPL. There were 2 Cessna 172 on the airfield and it only cost 25 quid an hour to learn to fly.....
Looks like a great bike for the smaller person (me). I'm after a beginner small, big bike with green lane potential. It ticks alot of boxes for me but I hate the KTM front end treatment and I'm not one for orange either!
i was thinking about snagging a little 300cc to have something to commute on and for messing about days, and so its nice to see all the options coming out these days, i really like the g310gs and the duke, but its cool to see the adventure market expanding, still praying for the day triumph releases some low displacement bikes. Great review as always. I know you primarily do 2 wheel reviews but it would be so cool to see you on the can am ryker rally, wanna see one of those beauties rolling around ol blighty
TheMissendenFlyer is that the case? I could have sworn I saw someone cruising around Scotland on one. Maybe they had to import it themselves. I’ll have to look into it, my apologies
Love mine but prefer it in white as I'm not too keen on too much KTM orange. I had to fit an Akrapovic as my lawn mower had a better soundtrack and it looks much better too. For me, it's a really good value, fun to ride second bike to try a few green lanes on etc. although I'd say it's perfectly good enough as an only bike. It's surprisingly punchy for a smaller capacity single cylinder bike. I have the quickshifter which is indeed an option but the jury is out on reliability. Mine has been at the dealers for a week with ECU failure but I'm sure they'll get it sorted.....😯
Oh dear sorry to hear that Steve - which dealer do you use?? The guys at The KTM Centre in Hemel are brilliant....and I'd love to hear your lawn mower!
Great video .👍😊 Looking forward to hear what you think about the bike after spending time on it. I hope you take Mrs Flyer out for a spin, it would be great to get both of your opinions about this bike two up.
RyanF9 commented on the footpegs being angled forward on their review. Said the bike keeps wanting to pitch him over the handlebars when riding stood up. Would like your thoughts on that. I'm really liking this bike to be honest. Thanks for another great video. Can't wait for you to take it offroad. 😄
Hi Andy love your vlogs. very informative and because of you it made me go and try a bike out and i ended up investing in a Triumph Tiger 900 gt pro a red one. You praised it in all ways and i was looking for an adventure bike. i love it. i also have a Harley Davidson fat bob 114 too. 2 bikes for me is enough though :)
Another great video, nice mix of personal views and facts. May I ask your inside leg measurement and if you can easily flat foot it, when you do the more detailed videos. Also fuel gauge and if accurate for the range anxious amongst us.
Thanks for the review. UK expat trying to decide between this and 2021 G310GS as both would be perfect for where I currently live in the Philippines. KTM is edging it I reckon - cheaper than the BMW here too!
I like that bike. Looks good (unusually for a KTM) & nice & light. I was thinking of a Fantic Caballero for my new off-roading machine, but that’s put the cat amongst the pigeons is a bit. It’ll be interesting to see how you go off road. Looking forward to that! You did a few local lanes on your little Honda a few years ago if I remember. Those would be a good test before it gets too wet. Cheers bud!
Range with a 14.5 litre tank - "well over a 100 miles" - Triumph put smaller tanks on some of their 1200cc bikes. I would hope for 60/70 mpg from a small single cylinder, well over 200 miles perhaps.
Surely more people would be likely to take this off road than 20 grands worth of gs, and get a lot further too.. A carnet for a quarter of the price too. Is it image that stops a lot of people riding these 'smaller ' bikes? It shouldn't. Less is more maybe. Nice one. Happy travels
I am 6ft 3 and 15 stone and when my mate persuaded me to let him have my old 1200GS, I bought one of these. I've had it a year now, and it's a real keeper.
I am 6ft 3 and 15.5 stone and find mine comfortable and capable. The CZcamsr "The Lofty Biker" is 6ft 5 and 17stone and his review agrees. I find the VStrom performs the same, but is much heavier.
Coincidence:Mine having its 1st service today:The screen adjusts upwards with screw removal on headlight(add a extender as well).If you are 6' and above you will need bar risers( a must for off rd) + skid plate.I have ordered a soft seat.Actually a great communter as you said and fun for light off rd(I have changed mirrors for off rd and put Akro exhaust on).Cheers
Gday mate good review on this bike ,at least ktm got there switch gear in the right order unlike on my cb500x where the horn is above the indicators wanted to give someone a quick blast the other day and found i was pressing the indicator switch be interesting to see after you have had it a while i had to lower my cb 500x as i didnt feel comfortable on the ball of my foot but all good now might look into those grip puppies as my throttle hand goes numb after about an hour not good ,anyway ride safe .
Brilliant review and completely agree that it’s an excellent little bike. I have done 1000 miles or so on mine now and loved every minute of it. Only negative for me is I am 6ft 6 and on longer rides feel it’s a little cramped for me. For that reason mine is unfortunately up for sale. Anyone interested in a mint condition bike with 1300 miles on it?!
Alway state I'm a old school sports tourer fan, and not so much into adventure bikes, however if I was to go down that route this small light weight that could tackle a bit of light off roading seems the way to go, and well priced too, so look forward to your future Vlogs. Cheers TMF
Blundered into this bike at the dealer a couple weeks back (they also have a killer deal on a 2019 Goldwing that I'm trying real hard to avoid.... :^) ) and dang, I fit it fairly well (lanky fellow with 36" inseam). Started looking into it and was getting really impressed when I found out a 490 Adventure is due in the spring. A bigger machine for eating the Western US roads would be closer to ideal where as the 390 seems ideal for the rides I see you and your mates on. So I'll wait to see how the 490 is. I'd go for the CB500X but the weight gives me pause. When all is said and done; I'd be interested to see if you would be willing to trade in your CRF250 for this 390.
Me too. Desire 490 for California speed and range. Was told at the dealership that US bikes do not have the quick shifter, which was a disappointing surprise upon going in for a look see last week. Btw, does anyone know what fuel it drinks ? Regular or premium octane ?
Well I'm not really into off roading so would personally go for the Duke 390, but that's only a personal preference, this bike shares it's DNA and has a very similar grin factor...
Been looking at the 390 duke, BMW G310 and the Honda CB300R, and cannot decide between them, all look good value for the price point. I have had my share of bigger faster bikes, and now just a little everyday bit of fun bike
@@TheMissendenFlyer my heart says the 390, just think it looks like a young lads bike, and even though I dont think I look my age I am an old git now :), but the KTM does have more tech which I like, decions decisons, as soon as get back to UK, I will book test rides and get one sorted
@@slakk5093 the power is not a problem, had lots of big bikes, but now just fancy a smaller bike, the SV is a nice bike, but is too dated, I honestly cannot stand the look of the old style front forks
Problem with the 390 engine is extreme reliability issue according to most people who owned one. the engine basically needs replacing after 20.000km because its not worth rebuilding it
Thousands of 390 Dukes around the planet with a lot more than 20K on the clock :-). It's pitched for Asian markets and they will sell truckloads of them.
Thanks for the first impressions. It sure is a good looking bike except for all the plastic on the "dash". Ryan at Fortnine reviewed this bike. He mentioned the pegs being slanted forward making it difficult to stand, the low ground clearance and the stubby front tire. Curious to see if those are issues for you. I wonder how it might compare to a Honda CB 500X - that's a bike I have my eye on. Cheers.
The reason is Andy is limited to a 24 hour day he has stuff already filmed a whole year ahead into 2021 but it's a case of getting it edited and uploaded. I think he is already uploading 3 times a week if not more.
Silver Arrow - I only had access to the BMW R18 from a dealer for a single test ride, the bikes you see me doing multiple videos on are those that manufacturers themselves lend me for a period of weeks from their press fleets - sadly I don't yet think the R18 is available to me from BMW UK themselves...hopeful I can bring you more videos on it next year though once it is....
I can’t wait to get back to Blighty (or just Europe) to test ride some adventure bikes. They are unicorn rare in Vietnam. If you can find one they are double the price of Europe.
Enjoyed that -- thanks. Ryan at FortNine described it as a street bike with adventurous plastic! But then his expectations of what an adventure bike should be capable of off-road are likely not the same as yours TMF, or the majority of adventure bike owners for that matter.
People have turned their Duke 390's into an adventure bike. I think it's just the fact this has not much suspension travel still has cast wheels and minimalist ground clearance.
At 29" inseam KTMs are off the menu for me. I wonder why they are so tall? I the front does look a bit like a magnified fly's head! But it looks good value.
Hi @TheMissendenFlyer I’m looking at both KTM 390 adventure and new BMW g310gs 2020 v for long touring, please suggest in terms of performance, ride comfort, reliability, fun factor !! Thanks
Nice review, TMF. The bike's reluctance to get into neutral may be a legacy of KTMs dirt bike heritage: when off road, you never want to find neutral by accident, as it can lead to disasterous consequences. Every KTM, Husaberg, Husqvarna enduro or dirt bike I've ever ridden has been reluctant to find neutral, supposedly for that reason. As for serious off roading, I think the 390 lacks in the suspension and ground clearance department, although for green laning, it will probably excel. Cheers.
Yes as an intro to light off-roading this is great - any hardcore dirt biker would of course look elsewhere. Interesting what you say about the gearbox! Cheers....
Great video again.. I've been trying to find a small adventure bike I like the BMW G310GS but this KTM is quite nice too.. I need a second bike for commuting ect and being able to do some light green lane riding would be great. I've been trying to find a 400 or 450cc twin, but doesn't seem to be anything on the market.. So it might be the baby BM but Ii will have to be a 2021 model because for some silly reason on the 2022 models you can't switch the abs off.. which to me is a bit stupid on a bike made for on and off road.. The suspension is a bit of a let down too on the BM, I will have to spend another £1000 to upgrade and pay someone to do the work as I'm to old and suffer with arthritis, so can't do the work myself these days, and for a ex mechanic it's hard letting someone else work on your vehicle and have to pay them to do so.. Anyway I wish there was more choice for small to mid size adventure bikes.. I think the manufacturers are missing out.. Thanks again for another great video.. always love your content.. Ride Safe.. 🤟😎
Love your channel and enjoy your reviews. Question on the vibes: I don’t recall you mentioning them as an issue with the 390 Duke. Was I mistaken, or are they tamed on the 390 Duke? Thanks!
@@TheMissendenFlyer , thank you so much for taking the time to reply. Returning rider pondering the Duke 390 and the Royal Enfield INT 650. Apples and oranges, I imagine!
Thank you for the first review - was extremely interesting and useful! Looking forward to the next ones! Considering this model as my first bike (commuting plus a bit of greenlaning), and so would love to hear your opinion on this model vs used Street Scrambler.
I'd put it in the same class as Noraly's chosen steed the CB500X. Do you think it can handle luggage as well as it must be missing some low down torque along with its 100cc and piston deficit.
@@splodge5714 More reliable? Most probably. Honda have a great track record......lately. Better bike? Let's see how that pans out. The 390 is a peppy little beast with great character. I don't think Honda have squeezed all the could of out of their engine even though they've been making it in one form or another for over a decade.
Sounds like an ideal Bike for all environments the one thing is the tingles in the fingers that you me mentioned that would be a bit of a worry for me and would put me off buying this bike.
Love your reviews though I do disagree on seats being too hard. I haven't met a soft OEM seat that I don't crash through to the pan after an hour's ride. Sargent and Corbin seats seem like rocks at first but they're perfect if you tend to spend long hours on a bike. Much more comfortable that sitting on an oddly shaped seat pan all day.
Spending your own money would you buy this or your Honda crf 250? In 2008 I brought a Suzuki drz 400sm @£4000 allowing for inflation and equipment this looks like a brilliant package.
If I were buying a new bike for green laning today I'd probably go for the KTM - but that's because I've already owned a CRF!! The CRF I think looks more like a dirt bike and has proven to be 100% bullet proof in the 6 years I've owned it...
Re:vibration,I have done 500 mile days riding from SE Pennsylvania to Ohio and back and now have 2600 miles on mine total without any noticeable vibration issues. I get 65 miles(US) per gallon so the range is quite good. Ergonomics make standing off-road difficult,but it is good off paved roads. I love the bike.
I think vibration is subject to each individual. I suffer riding parallel twins and have also had issues with 4 cylinder machines, whereby my hands end up in total cramp. Yet riding singles I have no issue whatsoever.
Small tip for getting it in neutral: give it a little bit of throttle (just above idle) and it'll go in neutral much easier
Gonna try it out now
Pretty much with all bikes, my yzf doesnt like going in N unless blip the throttle
Ahh! Is that why i can't do it with my little honda cbf!
It's a trick I discovered on my first bike in the early 80's, that was a swine to find neutral and especially as a novice. I frustratingly struggled for the first few months of riding!
Love these little bikes you can throw about, you can’t stop smiling while riding these.
I completely agree - lots to be said for small and light...
Wish the Japanese still made mid and large capacity singles, my favourite bikes have been Japanese singles and they are the only people who have ever made truly reliable bike's in my experience
I own the 2018 Duke and out of all the Honda's, Aprilia's, Moto Guzzi's I've owned the Duke by far has been the most joyful to own and ride.
I absolutely love mine. Barely been off it since buying. Great for commuting and longer distance playing. Pretty handy on Green lanes too (far exceeds its riders capabilities). Excited to take it further soon (lockdown permitting). I didn’t like the exhaust either, now has an aftermarket wings exhaust (road legal) sounds beautiful and looks way better.
aha! Good stuff....
Between you and F9 we have a good understanding of this tiny beast
Thank you Andre - I actually filmed this before Ryan posted his review, I found his take on the bike fascinating!
yea ryan said its shit vs your suck up ”review”
Worth watching Fort Nine’s recent review of this bike.
I really liked that review... although the conclusion was very much from the mindset of an off-road rider it seems - which is fair, it is Ryan after all! But really... how many people are actually buying this type of mini adventure bike to ride much more off-road than unsurfaced roads? It’s good feedback... but I can also see it being largely irrelevant to most of the core market - learners and restricted license holders who just want an adventure styled duke that can stand a bit less tarmac really.
@@jonpram1737 I take mine off road often in the Colorado mountains. It does excellent. You just have to keep speed appropriate for the suspension travel and the trail you are on as with all bikes. Also 40 years experience of riding off and on road on all kind of bikes goes a long way enjoying any bike off road and being able to take it into the rough stuff. Just know it's not a dirt bike and not meant to be.
@@jonpram1737 I brought my KTM 390 adventure for some hard enduro. Just not enough clearance. Well if you are Chris birch you won't have any problems, if you can double blip over the logs, but then again I would just ride my wr250F. This bike is good for commuting and some simple flat track or trail riding. Nothing hardcore. That said, I like this bike
@@jonpram1737 Well, i think the off-road review is important, because this is a bike that begs to be compared to a drz400.
the DRZ is of course more offroad oriented (dual sport vs adv bikes), the ktm has more gears, injection, etc. So, it's important to know that it is very road oriented instead of 50/50
@@andrewstambaugh8030 that ithe 390 Adv not a 50/50 bike u can just see on a photo. Just doesn’t have the suspension like a wr250 or crf250l. No review needed to see that. Not hating on the bike I personally think some hardcore enduro guys just shout the hardest on new adventure bike reviews.. I live in Holland so I need to ride to different countries for some proper off-road. For my money it would be the 390 all the way
Got this delivered yesterday ..what a hoot did a 150 miles up and around Kylesku and Ullapool very impressed , I think my 2019 tiger 800 may be staying in the garage.. great review.:)
Congratulations!
Tested it in semi busy city. Loved it. Was heating a bit, but it was hot summer day. Vibrations are there, and really shouldn't. They fked up the mounting of rubbers on pegs. They should be sticked into (like in Triumph Street scrambler i.e.), instead of beeing screwed - that literally removed the whole point of these rubbers. Other then that, great bike. Missed some better sound from the pipe, and a bit of more umph would be good outside of the city. But if any1 tells you that this bike isn't big enough for city, i'm 100% they don't know how to ride a bike :) Gr8 deal if you want the plastic fresh, and no buttprint on the saddle. If that doesn't scare you, plenty of bikes on the used market, that are "better" :)
Was going to get the 390 Duke a couple of years ago to commute on. Did lots of research and found too many horror stories on reliability so went for a Ninja 400 and 10,000miles later in all weathers, the Kawasaki hasn’t missed a beat.
I got the duke, 2 years, 20,000km and just normal services, tyres, chain and sprockets to date. And it’s my every day ride to and from work, rain hail and shine. We can lane split and lane filter, and the high seat position makes that a breeze
My dear Flyer, I grew up around these roads you ride through. Being stuck here half-way across the world simply seeing you roll around brings such nostalgia back to me. Keep up the good stuff, be it motorcycles or road selection :)
Brilliant - glad to be of service!
No one has a work truck over there, it's all vans.. the nemesis !
i started with this one as my very first bike (i upgraded to a moto guzzi v85 by now) and it was a perfect choice
decent but not too much power and super light as you mentioned, but what really stands out imo is the security the modern electronics provide for this price
with the lean sensitive abs you can grab your brakes in a curve with no problem if you really need to
Yes a lot of bike for the money is't it - I guess you didn't keep it long then??
@@TheMissendenFlyer 7 months, but thanks to quarantine i put 15.000 km on it in that time and i felt like i am ready for something bigger
Owened this bike, LOVED IT! traded it for a 350 dual sport, because I thought I"d be doing more hard core enduro stuff, and ended up buying a dedicated Enduro dirt bike (KTM 250 XC-W TPI) instead, and I now miss having the 390. You get the right mods in there (ergo seat, spoked wheels, bar risers, and dirt bike style pegs... It becomes a capable off-roader, while maintaining the in tow and on road capabilities well.
Some of your comments are not aware that the way you pronounce Himalayan is the correct way. Ask the indigenous population!!! Good review of a good bike BUT not enough range for adventuring, no centre stand, (a must for rear wheel work),
Uncomfortable saddle (we don't stand up all the time!!!). I'll stick with my CB500. Range 250miles plus.
Thank you for noticing my correct pronunciation!
The CB500X will do 500 km per tank and the 390 Adventure will do 430 km per tank. That's calculated using the manufacturer's specs.
CB500x has more aftermarket parts that make the bike amazing (rally raid especially) to what you want.
This is more of a wannabe versys x that fails to deliver.
Great review TMF the content just keeps getting better on this channel buy far the best bike reviews out there! The bike looks a fantastic all rounder maybe a good second bike for my 1290 Superduke GT!! Haha
Much appreciated!
Amazing TMF, I was just searching for reviews of this bike last night. Perfect timing!!
Glad I could help!
Hello, I would like to recommend this video to you, especially from min. 37:00 - 42:00 min.
Regards from Berlin
I will take single cylinders over twins any day, Have a DR 650, a Suzuki s40 650 single, and a Versys 300 X twin, thinking to trade the versys in for the KTM 390 Adventure, than I will have all singles. I had a Royal Enfield 500 single and loved it as well. Had to many twins and 4 to list, from 250 cc to over 1000 cc , and now all I want is singles love the sound and feel of them. By the way the KTM 390 Adventure has no competition, nothing in that size comes as equipped as the KTM 390, adjustable front shocks, and rear shocks , ABS for on road and one for off road, traction control you can turn off to name a few. That puts it in a class of its own the others, have a long way to catch up. Not that they are not good bikes they are just in a different class. KTM should of put the Dunlop TrailMax Mission tires on this bike, and I would like a larger gas tank. I can over look the gas tank but will be putting Dunlop TrailMax Mission tires on if I get one as well as the aluminum bash plate, heated grips, and side and top racks that can take the GIVI Trekker 33/46 liter bags. ( have them on my Versys and love them, also can put the 46 liter on top of my DR650.) Liked your review, but don't know why you are putting down single cylinders.
I own a a Honda fmx 650 air cooled single de- corked, flat/slide carb done many 200+mile trip love it. This bike is looking like a good replacement with equal performance better mpg lower tax..
Just got myself one last week here in India. We get it at a take home price of 3500 quid and 15 quid for a service with an oil and filter change and u can thrash it around without a worry.
Andy, I really enjoy your vlogs. Very informative, real world, and upbeat.
This particular review is also well-timed, because I test rode one of these little beauties just the other day, and have pretty much decided to pony up for one. My other bike is an air-cooled T100, and while I love it to bits, it's a bit low and has rubbish suspension. With these two bikes in my garage, I'm sorted. Keep up the great work, I'm proud to be a Patreon.
Thanks for that Pavan! ....sounds like your collection is coming along very nicely...
Great first ride review of what could be a practical commuter, solo adventure bike and general fun tool. Looking forward to the forthcoming TMF 'dirty weekender' report. Maybe just repeat the day out that you recently aired (Range Rover to Salisbury Plain then CRF250 byway ride) as that would test both road and off road capabilities and the money you save on fuel by not using the Range Rover will pay for the comfort seat......? Looking forward to your next video on this bike, keep up the good work.
Did almost 2000 miles in 6 days riding around Scotland on my Fireblade, i was in agony by the end, recently bought on of these 390 adventures and i think it's really comfortable and have no issues with vibration
Well indeed, it is all relative!
@@TheMissendenFlyer it sure is mate, everyone is different :)
Off KTM Topic- The numbness in the hands is something I've wondered about myself, after a while on my MT-125 I'm having this issue, but it's my own fault for going out for wee cheeky half hour run & appearing home usually 3 hours later!!! 😂
The bike has a few issues, after 6500kms I have...
* condensation in the tft display
* condensation in the front light
* play in the rear sprocket
* vibrations in the front brake
* ignition can be a bit fiddly to get the key to turn.
...so I'm thinking the build quality is not all that great.
However, it is a lot of fun. You can be a real hooligan on the twisties. And I have taken it for a proper Norwegian adventure ride with a hammock and all camping gear, did lots of gravel roads and some light dirt. The bike performed well as long as the dirt was dry, the tires aren't really up for any mud.
Can't wait to go riding again this weekend :-)
Thanks for the real world feedback! Enjoy your ride...
The play in the rear sprocket is normal as there are rubber inserts in the hub to reduce shock being transmitted from the sprocket to the cast aluminum wheel hub.
@@gpnmoab1 I replaced the rubber inserts on my cbr600, and there was no play after that, so I wasn’t expecting any play in a new bike. Had the dealer check the bike yesterday and like you’re saying a bit of play is normal.
@@Ocean4Life I noticed the play when I adjusted the chain after the first 400 miles. Personally I believe there should be no play, why would you design it that way? But since it was virtually new I have to assume they intended it to have play.
@@gpnmoab1 yeah, beats me too. But it’s been checked and cleared by the dealer. I noticed play in the rear sprocket in one of the shots in this video too, when he went from N to 1st. Guess it’s by design
I thought about getting 390 before I chose a z400.. only because the z was a bit lower and I needed to get my confidence on the bike back .. it worked... these size bikes are very under rated .. good to see this clear review 👌
I agree - small capacity bikes have a lot going for them in the fun stakes....
i've had a 390duke for three years now. yes it's a lot of fun in the twisties, yes it eats traffic for breakfast, it's even a godsend on bumpy roads because of the upright position that allows to stand up on the pegs (i live in Rome and the roads are a pot-hole/pine-tree-root hell) and generally it's always satisfing when i feel a little crazy.
where the little thing fails miserably is relaxed cruising. sometimes you just wanna get there you know, no fun, no throwing the fun machine around, just sit and get there... and it really doesn't have the engine. i'm seriously thinking about getting a bigger front sprocket. it'll make it less fun but a bit comfier to cruise on.
It’s great bike and it really surprised me. The first ride was a 3 hour route home largely on country lanes and it was lots of fun. I agree the seat becomes uncomfortable after about an hour and half. But all round its very capable, even on some local green lanes. Great first ride review as usual.
Cheers mate, I'm guessing you're a bit bigger than me so that's good to hear! I really enjoyed this bike, but then I loved the 390 Duke too so no real surprise I guess - thanks for watching and appearing on my channel - love your work!
TheMissendenFlyer I’m 5ft 10 and with some ‘lockdown lard’ weigh over 200lbs. Thanks, good to see some mutual appreciation.
I think "cutie" sums up the looks really well.
Practical fun bike with a good price point.
Great little all rounder. Change the can, mirrors, jobs a good un.
Even the tail tidy looks alright.
Thanks Andy.
You're welcome as ever - always good to hear from you!
Isn't it more expensive than the Duke 390?
I am the owner of a KTM 390 Adventure which I bought in January 2021 as my very first motorcycle.
About four weeks ago, while riding on city streets, I noticed something unusual with the damping motion of the rear suspension and stopped immediately. The rear suspension was leaking fluid badly. I was able to ride back home and took the bike to the KTM dealer for a check. The KTM dealer received my bike on December 7, 2021. A month has passed, and they have no idea at all whether the faulty rear suspension is covered by the warranty and that it must be checked with the KTM factory sometime during mid-January. The bike is not in working condition and it is in their workshop since its breakdown.
This is a very disappointing and frustrating situation as I bought this bike mainly because of its alleged quality suspensions and its two-year warranty. Needless to say, KTM has not lived up to my expectations as a newbie in motorcycling.
Sorry to hear this - hope you get it sorted soon!
For Australian conditions where we do a lot more off road I would probably go for the Himalayan. KTM would be the better road bike. Put an Akrapovik can on the Enfield, you can play a really nice tune through the hills.
KLR or DRZ400e. Old and older, but here in Aus, tried and true.
I've just bought one, its got 100 miles on it so far, brilliant little bike. been isolating since getting home so not had the chance to get out on it any more. I agree about the mirrors and exhaust entirely which are easily swapped. built-in sat nav is useful and I found a free app called "Turn by Turn" that uses whatever nav app you happen to have, I'm using TomTom, rather than the £7.99 KTM My ride one. I'm planning a trip to Normandy on mine in the spring conditions permitting.
Your app is it IOS air droid. Couldn’t seem to find it.
@@kevinjones7732 I use Android, the developer is Marius Wachtler
Cheers buddy should make my KTM test ride that little bit sweeter 😉
I've had one of these new, but sold it after 3 months, absolutely terrible quality control. I had stripped threads or things threaded off centre,it burnt oil almost like petrol, no oil leaks though. First service was a joke, dealer never even changed the oil filters. TFT was replaced 3 times for condensation inside after 20 mins, gave up in the end. A common fault on 390 and 790 which KTM refuse to rectify. The quick shifter £215 option never worked properly or stopped altogether. The quick shifter btw is factory fitted to all engines , just disabled in the ECU . the £215 is for the dealer to connect his laptop and add a tick in a box to enable it. In my honest opinion, leave these alone if you don't want endless reliability issues.
Oh dear, sorry to hear that Rob!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thanks for the reply Andy, keep an eye out for condensation in the top corners of the tft, usually after about half an hour or so. They may listen to you as a Moto journalist if these issues raised their heads while you have it on long term review. It may help others who own these bikes. I understand there is a sizable market for a small full spec Adventure bike especially for the riders of advancing years, but no manufacturers want to do it for fear of harming sales higher up the ladder. All that said, ride safe, keep your family safe.
ive got the 1290 gt but think ill buy one of them as a 2nd bike lovely little machine great review as always
You know what's cute? Honda's CB350 H'Ness for India market but not for EU or US market :\... Cheeky Honda going for R.E sale while H.D leaves India market entirely. But back to the KTM, I'd much prefer the RC 390, better format for the angry single cylinder as a sports bike. It's great bike for the price though. Wish again motorcycle manufacturers use a hybrid gel'd seat from factory for seat comfort.
I'd love for Honda to make a 500 version of the H'ness for Europe. I think I'd prefer a 500 Honda retro to a 650 Enfield. The Honda would be better built with far better dealership and residuals.
Yes I like the look of that new Honda, such a shame we're not getting it in the UK.....unlike the RC390 which I don't like the looks of.....
I LOVE that 350 Honda! Disappointed in its limited availability
@@TheMissendenFlyer I just like the single on the RC390 better. Especially on US roads. The sportier positioning and fairings makes the bike more aero so it goes past 100mphs if you're lighter than 170lb. ALL of KTM line up IMO don't look great. It's probably the weird hornet like headlights that does it for me. And here in the US KTM support and parts are as spotty as Royal Enfield. Unless you live in the West Coast. Looks and support aside the performance for value is pretty good compared to the competition.
Oooooh looking forward to this one! Long termer- lets see if it keeps going and what issues you will undoubtedly come across. Lookin soooo forward to the ktm long termer 👌🏻
Ah Wendover..... takes me back to my days at RAF Halton....I used to glide from the airfield over the Chilterns... lovely part of the world....I have GS800, KTM 950SM and a Piaggio Medley 150. Thinking to get the 390 for a bit of light fun...
Good idea! As was the gliding.......lovely airfield at Halton isn't it....
@@TheMissendenFlyer When I look back I should also have taken advantage of doing my PPL. There were 2 Cessna 172 on the airfield and it only cost 25 quid an hour to learn to fly.....
Great bike & review. Really like the small KTM range & they all seem superb fun & value for money.
Looks like a decent top 10 replacement for my CRF250L. Good initial review and looking forward to hearing more about it.
Lots more to come over the next few weeks on this one Stilldking - good to hear from you again, it's been a while!
Great review I think if your only doing small B roads and tracks the idea of these smaller capacity bikes is very appealing
Totally agree
250 USD for the quick shifter +. It’s a simple software unlock the dealer does. I love mine.
Bought one today 👍👍👍
Congratulations....
Looks like a great bike for the smaller person (me). I'm after a beginner small, big bike with green lane potential.
It ticks alot of boxes for me but I hate the KTM front end treatment and I'm not one for orange either!
Fair enough - great bike this for experienced and beginners alike.....you could do a lot worse!
I got this bike with the seat from the Powerparts and its a lot more comfortable. I could ride rof hours on it. Its a must for this bike
i was thinking about snagging a little 300cc to have something to commute on and for messing about days, and so its nice to see all the options coming out these days, i really like the g310gs and the duke, but its cool to see the adventure market expanding, still praying for the day triumph releases some low displacement bikes. Great review as always. I know you primarily do 2 wheel reviews but it would be so cool to see you on the can am ryker rally, wanna see one of those beauties rolling around ol blighty
I'm not sure you can buy them here can you?
TheMissendenFlyer is that the case? I could have sworn I saw someone cruising around Scotland on one. Maybe they had to import it themselves. I’ll have to look into it, my apologies
Love mine but prefer it in white as I'm not too keen on too much KTM orange. I had to fit an Akrapovic as my lawn mower had a better soundtrack and it looks much better too. For me, it's a really good value, fun to ride second bike to try a few green lanes on etc. although I'd say it's perfectly good enough as an only bike. It's surprisingly punchy for a smaller capacity single cylinder bike. I have the quickshifter which is indeed an option but the jury is out on reliability. Mine has been at the dealers for a week with ECU failure but I'm sure they'll get it sorted.....😯
Oh dear sorry to hear that Steve - which dealer do you use?? The guys at The KTM Centre in Hemel are brilliant....and I'd love to hear your lawn mower!
It’s seems a miss that they didn’t offer cruise control. KTM loves their tech but somehow forgot this necessary bit for touring and motorway commutes.
Great video .👍😊
Looking forward to hear what you think about the bike after spending time on it.
I hope you take Mrs Flyer out for a spin, it would be great to get both of your opinions about this bike two up.
RyanF9 commented on the footpegs being angled forward on their review. Said the bike keeps wanting to pitch him over the handlebars when riding stood up. Would like your thoughts on that. I'm really liking this bike to be honest. Thanks for another great video. Can't wait for you to take it offroad. 😄
The screen can be mounted in a lower or higher position and 2 windshields of caring lengths can be ordered (KTM Aus website)
Hi Andy love your vlogs. very informative and because of you it made me go and try a bike out and i ended up investing in a Triumph Tiger 900 gt pro a red one. You praised it in all ways and i was looking for an adventure bike. i love it. i also have a Harley Davidson fat bob 114 too. 2 bikes for me is enough though :)
Should be enough for anyone! Glad you approve of my efforts - that Tiger 900 is a great bike isn't it...
Another great video, nice mix of personal views and facts. May I ask your inside leg measurement and if you can easily flat foot it, when you do the more detailed videos. Also fuel gauge and if accurate for the range anxious amongst us.
Yes you can! Stay tuned.....
Thanks for the review. UK expat trying to decide between this and 2021 G310GS as both would be perfect for where I currently live in the Philippines. KTM is edging it I reckon - cheaper than the BMW here too!
I like that bike. Looks good (unusually for a KTM) & nice & light. I was thinking of a Fantic Caballero for my new off-roading machine, but that’s put the cat amongst the pigeons is a bit. It’ll be interesting to see how you go off road. Looking forward to that! You did a few local lanes on your little Honda a few years ago if I remember. Those would be a good test before it gets too wet. Cheers bud!
Stay tuned - some green laning on this bike coming up!
Range with a 14.5 litre tank - "well over a 100 miles" - Triumph put smaller tanks on some of their 1200cc bikes. I would hope for 60/70 mpg from a small single cylinder, well over 200 miles perhaps.
Yes apparently it is good for over 200 miles per tank....
Good old honda xr600r is 146kg wet. 158kg is anything but light! If I remember correctly the ktm 640 adventure was 158ish dry.
Well its light compared to the road bikes I normally ride....
Surely more people would be likely to take this off road than 20 grands worth of gs, and get a lot further too..
A carnet for a quarter of the price too.
Is it image that stops a lot of people riding these 'smaller ' bikes? It shouldn't.
Less is more maybe.
Nice one.
Happy travels
Couldn't agree more - whist I had this even I dared to try it off road....way under rated smaller capacity bikes - oodles of fun.
My sort of bike TMF, relatively low cost/ displacement, i now need to look into service intervals & costs here in Thailand, cheers mate.
I'm gonna buy the Duke 390 in LOS, maybe next year. I'm currently riding around on my GSXS 150....plenty fun for my environment ...for now....555.
I just saw a ktm 1190 Adventure review. A real capable bike but a widow maker!
Had the Duke 390 based on your review, loved it but my 6’1” frame was just too big really and I swapped it for an old GS!!
Yes I'm 5.11 and most of the bikes now look too tiddly for me . Being 18 stone doesn't help either. Going to have to be a versys or vstrom for me
I am 6ft 3 and 15 stone and when my mate persuaded me to let him have my old 1200GS, I bought one of these. I've had it a year now, and it's a real keeper.
I am 6ft 3 and 15.5 stone and find mine comfortable and capable. The CZcamsr "The Lofty Biker" is 6ft 5 and 17stone and his review agrees. I find the VStrom performs the same, but is much heavier.
Great Review Andy....Would be interesting to see how well it performs on the green lanes.
Stay tuned Jake - I have a video on that coming...
Coincidence:Mine having its 1st service today:The screen adjusts upwards with screw removal on headlight(add a extender as well).If you are 6' and above you will need bar risers( a must for off rd) + skid plate.I have ordered a soft seat.Actually a great communter as you said and fun for light off rd(I have changed mirrors for off rd and put Akro exhaust on).Cheers
Thanks for the real world feedback Bruce...
@@TheMissendenFlyer Added:Lower your tyre pressures for Off RD.You may even have found your tyres to hard + suspension thats why your hand was buzzy.
Gday mate good review on this bike ,at least ktm got there switch gear in the right order unlike on my cb500x where the horn is above the indicators wanted to give someone a quick blast the other day and found i was pressing the indicator switch be interesting to see after you have had it a while i had to lower my cb 500x as i didnt feel comfortable on the ball of my foot but all good now might look into those grip puppies as my throttle hand goes numb after about an hour not good ,anyway ride safe .
You too mate - and yes what is it about Honda switch gear being the wrong way around??!
Sounds like the ergo seat (+5mm) then the lowering (-20mm) would be a good couple of upgrades for you.
Seen on other neviews that it will top out at 169 KPH, 105 MPH.
The 2022 has some inprovements.
Brilliant review and completely agree that it’s an excellent little bike. I have done 1000 miles or so on mine now and loved every minute of it.
Only negative for me is I am 6ft 6 and on longer rides feel it’s a little cramped for me. For that reason mine is unfortunately up for sale.
Anyone interested in a mint condition bike with 1300 miles on it?!
Did you sell?
This video really picked me up mate - thanks.
Glad to hear it!
Alway state I'm a old school sports tourer fan, and not so much into adventure bikes, however if I was to go down that route this small light weight that could tackle a bit of light off roading seems the way to go, and well priced too, so look forward to your future Vlogs.
Cheers TMF
Blundered into this bike at the dealer a couple weeks back (they also have a killer deal on a 2019 Goldwing that I'm trying real hard to avoid.... :^) ) and dang, I fit it fairly well (lanky fellow with 36" inseam). Started looking into it and was getting really impressed when I found out a 490 Adventure is due in the spring. A bigger machine for eating the Western US roads would be closer to ideal where as the 390 seems ideal for the rides I see you and your mates on. So I'll wait to see how the 490 is. I'd go for the CB500X but the weight gives me pause.
When all is said and done; I'd be interested to see if you would be willing to trade in your CRF250 for this 390.
Me too. Desire 490 for California speed and range.
Was told at the dealership that US bikes do not have the quick shifter, which was a disappointing surprise upon going in for a look see last week. Btw, does anyone know what fuel it drinks ? Regular or premium octane ?
Man, I just traded in my 2017 crf 250l for a 2020 versys x300, I love it so far !
So first impressions, if you could only have 1, the Duke or this????? Love the look of both. Another great video thank you for the upload
Well I'm not really into off roading so would personally go for the Duke 390, but that's only a personal preference, this bike shares it's DNA and has a very similar grin factor...
Thank you. That's my fave choice after looking at your reviews also
Been looking at the 390 duke, BMW G310 and the Honda CB300R, and cannot decide between them, all look good value for the price point. I have had my share of bigger faster bikes, and now just a little everyday bit of fun bike
I'd go for one of the KTM's - either this or the 390 Duke - brilliant little machines.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer my heart says the 390, just think it looks like a young lads bike, and even though I dont think I look my age I am an old git now :), but the KTM does have more tech which I like, decions decisons, as soon as get back to UK, I will book test rides and get one sorted
@@SUFCTERRY what about a sv650x, older styling and an engine that has oomf but not crazy sportbike power. Lovely bike!
@@slakk5093 the power is not a problem, had lots of big bikes, but now just fancy a smaller bike, the SV is a nice bike, but is too dated, I honestly cannot stand the look of the old style front forks
Looks nice but great value? At £1200 more than the 390 Duke???...
I think the bargain 390 derivative is the 2020 Husqvarna Svartpilen currently at £4200otr (which I have)
Svartpilen 401 at £4299 (correction)
Problem with the 390 engine is extreme reliability issue according to most people who owned one. the engine basically needs replacing after 20.000km because its not worth rebuilding it
Thousands of 390 Dukes around the planet with a lot more than 20K on the clock :-). It's pitched for Asian markets and they will sell truckloads of them.
Looks like a great all rounder. Great review.
Thanks for the first impressions. It sure is a good looking bike except for all the plastic on the "dash". Ryan at Fortnine reviewed this bike. He mentioned the pegs being slanted forward making it difficult to stand, the low ground clearance and the stubby front tire. Curious to see if those are issues for you. I wonder how it might compare to a Honda CB 500X - that's a bike I have my eye on. Cheers.
Yes I made this video before Ryan posted his so I can guarantee I wasn't influenced by his film - I liked this bike far more than he did it seems!
Another great review... is there a reason you haven't put out the next videos on the r18
The reason is Andy is limited to a 24 hour day he has stuff already filmed a whole year ahead into 2021 but it's a case of getting it edited and uploaded. I think he is already uploading 3 times a week if not more.
Silver Arrow - I only had access to the BMW R18 from a dealer for a single test ride, the bikes you see me doing multiple videos on are those that manufacturers themselves lend me for a period of weeks from their press fleets - sadly I don't yet think the R18 is available to me from BMW UK themselves...hopeful I can bring you more videos on it next year though once it is....
I will never buy another ktm again. Had nothing but problems with my 690 from parts that should be made to last
Same here, my smcr needed a new rocker arm within 500 miles from new, took most the summer for the dealer to get it in the U.K.!
Nice first take. It looks like the pegs tilt forward a bit which seems awkward for offroad riding while standing.
A great budget bike, as it's built in India the costs can be kept low. The luggage kit makes it a super buy😊👍👍
I've not seen the luggage, I must check it out - great bike this.....
The drivers of signwritten vans probably get sent out to hunt you down for the free advertising☺
Think maybe the Honda CB500X is this bikes main competitor.
I can’t wait to get back to Blighty (or just Europe) to test ride some adventure bikes. They are unicorn rare in Vietnam. If you can find one they are double the price of Europe.
Enjoyed that -- thanks. Ryan at FortNine described it as a street bike with adventurous plastic! But then his expectations of what an adventure bike should be capable of off-road are likely not the same as yours TMF, or the majority of adventure bike owners for that matter.
People have turned their Duke 390's into an adventure bike. I think it's just the fact this has not much suspension travel still has cast wheels and minimalist ground clearance.
Very true!
@@TheMissendenFlyer I would still buy one. I would just call it a Duke with hiking boots
At 29" inseam KTMs are off the menu for me. I wonder why they are so tall? I the front does look a bit like a magnified fly's head! But it looks good value.
Yes shame that...platform boots maybe?
Same for me! 5’7” and 29” Inseam sucks. Takes big boots!
I've a 27" inseam, no problems.
Not a bike that interests me but good video. The switchgear looks superior to some much more expensive bikes.
Yeah I agree
Looks like it would be a great bike to get to the green lanes.
Stay tuned for more on that soon!
Ha ha 'bum trauma' made me laugh. I'm going to use that one! I hope you've got plenty of videos in the locker Andy for lockdown 🙄
I’m pleased to say I do - enough to get me to next Spring if needs be - stay tuned!
Prefer the look of the adventure to the standard 390 , and for the money a go anywhere bike, would make a cracking 2nd bike
Agreed....
Hi @TheMissendenFlyer I’m looking at both KTM 390 adventure and new BMW g310gs 2020 v for long touring, please suggest in terms of performance, ride comfort, reliability, fun factor !! Thanks
Watch my review of both - I prefer the KTM as I said in this video (did you watch it?)
Having the same query, getting inclined more towards the gs310 because of it's plush suspension. Will decide after a decent test ride.
The vibrations are a deal killer for me. Probably get a crf300l rally or a klr 650.
Nice review, TMF. The bike's reluctance to get into neutral may be a legacy of KTMs dirt bike heritage: when off road, you never want to find neutral by accident, as it can lead to disasterous consequences. Every KTM, Husaberg, Husqvarna enduro or dirt bike I've ever ridden has been reluctant to find neutral, supposedly for that reason. As for serious off roading, I think the 390 lacks in the suspension and ground clearance department, although for green laning, it will probably excel. Cheers.
Yes as an intro to light off-roading this is great - any hardcore dirt biker would of course look elsewhere. Interesting what you say about the gearbox! Cheers....
Great video again..
I've been trying to find a small adventure bike I like the BMW G310GS but this KTM is quite nice too..
I need a second bike for commuting ect and being able to do some light green lane riding would be great. I've been trying to find a 400 or 450cc twin, but doesn't seem to be anything on the market..
So it might be the baby BM but Ii will have to be a 2021 model because for some silly reason on the 2022 models you can't switch the abs off.. which to me is a bit stupid on a bike made for on and off road.. The suspension is a bit of a let down too on the BM, I will have to spend another £1000 to upgrade and pay someone to do the work as I'm to old and suffer with arthritis, so can't do the work myself these days, and for a ex mechanic it's hard letting someone else work on your vehicle and have to pay them to do so..
Anyway I wish there was more choice for small to mid size adventure bikes..
I think the manufacturers are missing out..
Thanks again for another great video.. always love your content..
Ride Safe.. 🤟😎
Cheers BB - and good luck finding the right bike!
Love your channel and enjoy your reviews. Question on the vibes: I don’t recall you mentioning them as an issue with the 390 Duke. Was I mistaken, or are they tamed on the 390 Duke?
Thanks!
Long time ago, tbh I can't really remember - couldn't have been bad if I didn't mention it!
@@TheMissendenFlyer , thank you so much for taking the time to reply. Returning rider pondering the Duke 390 and the Royal Enfield INT 650. Apples and oranges, I imagine!
@@davidfoster5030 ....go for the Interceptor!
Thank you for the first review - was extremely interesting and useful! Looking forward to the next ones! Considering this model as my first bike (commuting plus a bit of greenlaning), and so would love to hear your opinion on this model vs used Street Scrambler.
Thanks for watching!
I'd put it in the same class as Noraly's chosen steed the CB500X. Do you think it can handle luggage as well as it must be missing some low down torque along with its 100cc and piston deficit.
I was thinking the same but the CB500X would be the better more reliable bike.
@@splodge5714 More reliable? Most probably. Honda have a great track record......lately. Better bike? Let's see how that pans out. The 390 is a peppy little beast with great character. I don't think Honda have squeezed all the could of out of their engine even though they've been making it in one form or another for over a decade.
It's a big single...prob has more torque than the Honda 500
Sounds like an ideal Bike for all environments the one thing is the tingles in the fingers that you me mentioned that would be a bit of a worry for me and would put me off buying this bike.
Fair enough.....
Love your reviews though I do disagree on seats being too hard. I haven't met a soft OEM seat that I don't crash through to the pan after an hour's ride. Sargent and Corbin seats seem like rocks at first but they're perfect if you tend to spend long hours on a bike. Much more comfortable that sitting on an oddly shaped seat pan all day.
Must be a personal taste thing - I hate hard seats....
Spending your own money would you buy this or your Honda crf 250?
In 2008 I brought a Suzuki drz 400sm @£4000 allowing for inflation and equipment this looks like a brilliant package.
If I were buying a new bike for green laning today I'd probably go for the KTM - but that's because I've already owned a CRF!! The CRF I think looks more like a dirt bike and has proven to be 100% bullet proof in the 6 years I've owned it...
Nice review of a good bike. Unfortunately the design is really not mine.
But as everyone got his own taste 👍 thumb up and enjoy
Fair enough!
An aftermarket seat? Maybe an aftermarket backside would be the better option!
Are they available?
@@TheMissendenFlyer IF not, then there is a gap in the market!