2020 KTM 390 Adventure Review | Lessons Learned
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- 2020 KTM 390 Adventure Review | Lessons Learned: Having ridden the long awaited KTM 390 adventure for a couple of weeks it's time to reveal the lessons I've learned.....
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I have now bought one, after watching your review and lots of others. I am not really bothered by appearance or sound - how a bike feels is important to me, so I am quite happy with the mirrors and the exhaust note. At 6ft 3, I find the riding position really comfortable, and haven't yet found the seat to be hard, but I tend to stop for a break every hour or so. I have been riding for 54 years, and am at an age where light weight and nimble handling are more important than the power I used to get from my 1200 and 1300 machines. This little engine is great for the roads that I like to ride on, with the speed limits that are being applied now, and can take me on trunk roads if necessary. I would not only recommend it as a bike for younger riders, but also for older riders who are "winding down".
I'm 6'4 and very lanky. The ktm 390 adv is my first bike, but have ridden a few prior. I have to say it was by far the most comfortable for my body type. Just feels perfect for me. And not overly massive while still being tall.
I keep checking my video isn't playing at 1.25x speed. Amazing
Hahaha! I'm missing Benny Hill's tune in the background too.
Hahahaha
Brilliant pml
Went to .75x
@@BubbaSatori try .5
There is a lot to be said for light bikes that can be flicked around and give confidence. I think we as a culture have bought into the idea that bigger is better. Not always the case. Yah, and I understand the biker butt.
Gotta be the most interesting garage ever. I always try and spot new additions in the background. Great content Andy.
Very accurate review, now done over 3000 clicks on mine with a mixture of tarmac and tough trails. Overall a magnificent machine
I just come back from a 3 Day Ride, 1335 Klms 60%Tar 40%Dirt, i just love this Bike !!!
Cheers JJ!
Thanks Andy yet another great easy listening and very informative vid. Keep up the great work mate :)
Thanks Dave, will do!
Great review! I totally agree with you. I have been riding my 390 Adv now for 1 year and 7000 km. I replaced the silly looking and sounding stock exhaust and the hard seat with a KTM powerparts ergo seat. Also replaced the windscreen with a larger tinted one from Givi. I think is perferct now and hopefully i will keep it for several years.
Does handlebar vibration rear it's head on yours?
Hi Andy, good points pointed out as usual! I find it amazing KTM seems to be the only one doing the backlight on the controls for small capacity bikes...where if you are a learner it makes sense as confidence booster. Plus is just nice like in a laptop. Little things you get used to.
I think the ktm duke 390s are very good value for money as you pointed out but you do need to change the exhausts, the first edition sounded like a vacuum cleaner, so I had an aftermarket exhaust.
The only question I have is can you fit a disk lock under the seat just for popping into town etc?
Speak soon! Tc
Great informative video TMF. I personally haven't ridden one yet but after viewing your videos I think that I'll definitely get one soon. As for the exhaust note, I'm sure you can buy after market slip ons to make the bike sound 'beefier.'
My 1970s Hondas are difficult to find neutral sometimes - you would think forty years on this would no longer be a problem
Damn the man even had an accessory shop!
I love a light bike, says the man who just got a Gold Wing.😋. Love your reviews. Keep up the good work.
Great vid and very accurate in your review. After 3 moths and 2k miles of ownership I agree with everything you mentioned. The only thing I would add is a note about fuel economy. As a thumper it has been great, I have been averaging over 80mpg here in the States on my non highway trips!
As for the seat I also thought it was total crap at the beginning. As a cyclist I was wearing bike shorts with padding to start however as my body figured it out and the seat softening just a bit I find the seat a non issue on 2-3hr rides now. I would recommend people to give it some time then decide to upgrade or swap out. Cheers!
oh, and for any hand vibrations etc nothing that $9 KTM orange alloy bar ends from Aliexpress cant solve!
I really like this bike. I think Bajaj Auto did a great job building this, but i'm more excited to see what they build for Triumph. I have my fingers crossed for a Tiger 400 because i hate how they consider their 800/850 sport "entry level".
Love the C172 pitot cover on the wall👍 Great videos as well, love the content👍
Actually it's from our old TB10
@@TheMissendenFlyer Now that is a beautiful aircraft. Regards fellow pilot and Triumph-driver.
I will say that I’ve watched your thoughts twice already! A great, honest opinion on a bike that is very good for its price! Keep up the great work, I know it will be difficult during the UK stage two Covid situation. Being in AUSTRALIA I know how difficult stage two was, however Melbourne ( where I live) has now had zero cases in 2 weeks. Not bad for a city with 5+ million citizens...
Wow Marcus, great news! Stay safe...
Same to you! I look forward to hearing and seeing you on CZcams again. My advice for all of your subscribers is to follow what the government stipulates, where a mask (even tho they only reduce chances) and just be humble an more importantly, mindful of others. In particular the elderly who are at most risk to Covid-19!
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Great watch. looks like your garage has been burgled ! Used to seeing multiple bikes ! Thanks for sharing keep them coming
Never fear - I just moved ‘em out so I could make this review...
I see what is going on in the background.... just need a little refrigerator (or maybe is already full?) and now that's a proper mancave!
Rumbled me!
@@TheMissendenFlyer you starting to look like Bruce Willis 😎
Great review. I sold my crf 250l and bought this. Perfect to learn on. There are few if any entry level bikes w cornering abs and cornering traction control. Not many mid sized bikes either.
Couldn't agree more!
Another honest & great review.....of a good all round machine for new riders........stay safe......thanks for sharing
My pleasure Ian!
Great review, Andy! I think for similar money, I'm still leaning towards the CB500X or the Interceptor. On a side note, I was hoping to pick up a TMF hoodie from your shop...do you ship to the US? Thanks sir! Ride safe!
We do indeed - knock yourself out!
Excellent review as always Andy.
Thank you....
Have the 390 adv SW here.. almost a yr now, and your review is good. My buddy has one, and I saw it I had to have one! So I bought it, put it trailer from the dealer, I brought it home. I started it., and said I can’t have this!!! Sounds like a washing machine!!! so off, claim the stock muffler, apropovic muffler, and removed 5 pound resonator, with the delete pipe. Now it sounds like a proper motorcycle.! The nuts and bolts are great, but other than that first rate bike, I think, and I’ve owned many… Thanks for your review!
Anther good point that everyone misses is the high Km endurance with a full tank.
Great Review...I love my KTM 390 Duke! Aloha from Maui :)
Aloha!
Superb and comprehensive summary. A bit too much caffeine today?!
In love with your garage
Yes it's my "happy place" :0)
I absolutely love mine!
I put a full Acropovic on mine with a ecu flash by KTM with a richer fuel map it sounds loud now... almost too loud😉
I put it up there with my all my favourite KTM'S owned so far.
It really is a little weapon that handles well in bends.
Cool - thanks for watching!
Correct about the negatives, I've chenged them all. Great bike, I love it!!!
Just picked mine up today, must say coming off a 125 to this it feels bloody brilliant to me 😂
Yes it’s all relative
Exactly the thoughts that resonated in my mind when i took a test ride. I was a returning rider (this year) after many years, wanted to buy something to start again. 390 Adventure was the first one I rode and realised that the biking scene has changed and quite some. The plastic and light bike but great character somehow didnt go well what I had in mind. Next was Interceptor and I ended up booking it soon after the ride. Different genre... yeah indeed but then price point was similar. More like what biking used to be in my mind. But there are times when i think i should have bought this one... but might add this one to the stable some time.
I think the Interceptor was a fine choice too!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Certainly.. no plan on giving it up. No no.
Same situation here; started again after 25 years without a bike and have considered both this one (did a test-ride already) and the Interceptor ( haven’t driven it yet). The Enfield is what a bike looked like in my time, and all the testers seem to like it a lot, but I liked this KTM a lot as well. Important for me is the seating position; I am 193 cm /6 foot 4. Right now I drive an Aprilia Pegaso 650, a cheap bike to find out what I really like in motorcycling. I am looking forward to try the Enfield, and the Yamaha T700, and a secondhand Moto Guzzi Griso, and.......!
Bought my second- it’s a Duke 390 GT, more comfortable, more versatile and it gets me to campsites. Bloody good commuter too.
I am super keen to see all the riding gear have in your garage. Maybe a video idea for sometime in 2021?
It would be quite a long video!!
Another beauty TMF 🙂... not seen the rest of the vid’s on this but does it have cruise control? And what are your thoughts on c/c? Personally I love it cause sometimes I need to use my right hand for other stuff... like slapping and rubbing some sensation back into my right leg on cold days 😂
Cc wise the bike is fine for it’s intended purpose...
I wish it had mx style rims, and hopefully the next version comes with them. Its a baby bike, but I want one so to me that makes it a winner.
Have ridden this bike over 23000kms on and a lot of off road and never jumped out of gear on neutral for me but yes finding neutral is a challenge...foot pegs are angled and not a fan but Black Dog USA make a great set of pegs to cure this...but after all these kms I have owned this bike I love it!
Thanks for the feedback Paul!
47 years old and getting back into MC after a 10 year break! I will be buying one of these.
Welcome back!
Great review. Any thoughts from folks here on reliability?
another great review thanks
Thanks for watching!
Great review Andy but i spent more time checking out the beers in the background. Personally KTM lost it when they went into road bikes I still miss my old 420 mx bike i had in the 90's
Brilliant
This is pretty nice review! Thank you
Thanks for watching!
Great review. I really appreciated the fact that you showed us how your feet touch the ground when sitting on it. The 390 Adventure has made it to my final list but, with a 28" inseam, I am concerned about the seat height. There are none close to me at the moment, so in order to assess the seat height, could you tell me your inseam and height, if you don't mind. Thanks
I’m 5’8” with 32 inseam....
I like the marrows, when riding you should be looking at the road not the front of the bike, and the shifter from first to neutral just give it a slight tap and no problem, I have close to 3,000 on mine and find the seat quite good, You should try the DR650 then the KTM 390 Adventure, I have bough and love the bough.
Enjoyable review, hope your all keeping well, Cheers TMF
Thanks, you too!
How about trying the Zontes T310 or Sinnis Terrain 380 adventure bikes?
Nice review bro, to the point. Valued.
Glad you liked it
What I lovely machine the KTM 390 adventure bike. Thanks for the great review on it, you always makes good videos.
Yours sincerely
The Danish Viking 🇩🇰 ☀️ 😎
You're very kind DV! Thanks for watching as ever - appreciate your support...
Hi TMF ,did you hear about Honda upgrading the CRF250L and CRF Rally to 300cc? Actually available in Thailand.
LOL.. smiling at your 3:10 comment. " I did have a bit of bum trauma".. :-) bless ya my friend.. can we stick with reviewing bikes please sir.. I know i've took it out of context and having rode the bike totally agree BTW.
Great review👍 is it possible for you to review BMW G 310 GS BS6 and compare the two?
Nice review & a great bike imo. Plus pretty much all the negatives you raised can be sorted out relatively easily.
Indeed - excellent little bike...
Have you ever looked at the prices of aftermarket seats ? 🤦♂️
Last bike I had trouble finding neutral on was a 1959 Norton.
Mine was a Piaggio scooter. I put 4 new engines in still couldn't find the problem. I set fire to it in the end. Useless rubbish.
Very informative review. May I ask how tall you are to determine if the seat height is compatible with my leg length. Thanks.
5'8"
Hay, Andy would this bike be a good commuter bike, can you put a bag for groceries and such? price is very good!
Those mirrors would never leave the showroom on my bike .The rest I could live with, where there's fire there's smoke, and with KTM there's a bit of smoke around as regards reliability engine wise .I'll wait and see what shows up from other brands over the next few months ,If the CRF300L makes it to the UK that would be a spanner in the works choice wise, even have a lower seat height op allegedly
But the engine's been out for years and always been reliable?
@@mookyzook yeah so reliable that broken head gasket I a thing with the duke and the rc390. I understand that it only happened to some people but still not as reliable as a crf250
Interesting review, it looks excellent value for money. I’ve always wondered why the selecting neutral problem has never been solved. I’ve owned the S1000R and double RR and both have been hopeless at selecting neutral.
Yes some bikes seem worse than others at it...
I had a Ducati Diavel and it was absolutely impossible to find neutral when stationary...one of several reasons why I sold it. That was followed by an FJR 1300, which had the best manual gearbox on any bike I've owned to date, with finding neutral an absolute breeze.
Never had trouble finding neutral on a Japanese bike. I thought that problem was solved 50 years ago.
Try playing tis video setting at @ 0.75x it’s so much more comfortable to watch. Nonetheless highly comprehensive review
Excellent for young riders starting our or just for commuting.Put akro exhaust on and bar risers if your are a little taller,cheers.
Hi Bruce, I'm 52 and new to bikes , what do you think the ktm for me?
Hello Tmf, have you had any issue with the motorcycle? There are some reports about the tft screen resetting and the engine stalling, but i want to get as many opinions as i can. Thanks and keep up the good work! ☺
Nope - I had no issues.....
Looks the part but the rock hard seat and KTM's legendary electrics would see it scored off my list. Looking forward to the Interceptor reveal.
Yes bit of a setback on that today - no progress (at all) to report...gonna be a wait for that one.
Good review Andy. No quite sure I’m with you on the mirrors or the exhaust. It’s an Adventure bike and when you fall off (coz you’re going to if you take it off road regularly), they look like they will survive a drop. Same with the exhaust, you don’t want to naff the locals off with a RJ type exhaust on trails. The rest of it, totally agree so thanks for sharing it. 👍
Fair enough! Always good to get your constructive feedback Steve - all the best
@@TheMissendenFlyer most people will agree with you I’d think. Im looking at from an off road perspective whereas most of these will never see more than a gravel car park. Anyway, good review as I said. 👍
How about long term rielability of motor, gear box and clutch? How about service intervals and costs? How about long term reliabitity problems with elektronics?
Pretty accurate assessment in my view.
Stills sounds like you're riding a Singer sewing machine,. After a month / 1500km's though I've found either the seat has improved or my butt has become accustomed to it - able to go for about 2.5 hours now with minimal discomfort. I also found that locating neutral improved after it's 1000km service - though still a little tricky some times.
Really enjoy your work. Thanks.
As someone who is interested in getting the 390 adventure I have to ask. Do you regret it, would you have rather saved up for a bigger bike or is it everything you need?
Thats the kind of stuff i could never accept on a new bike. I've had plenty of japanese bikes and now a sv650 from 2005with 35000miles and never han an issue regarding finding neutral...if on a new bike its hard to find neutral, something is wrong with gearboxe design
@@dylanfairhurst469, hi mate. No I do not regret buying the bike at all. IMO all the "problems" could easily be considered personal preference ones and hence easily rectified by changing out some parts (sear, silencer etc.) The bike comes with many features that are not simple "bolt on" improvements and that often don't come on much more expensive/bigger bikes.
I considered quite a few bikes before settling on the ktm and it brings a smile everytime I ride it - which is nearly every day.
@@farmoboy83 a lot of people say / think similarly. I can't recall a bike that I've ridden that could either be fiddley to find neutral or would grab neutral too easily when shifting. Some were better / worse than others of course.
I've seen reviews of the ktm where it's never mentioned as an issue or explicitly "discounted" in the reviewers instance. One reviewer even found that different footwear made a difference.
For me, the issue is a minor one.
Cheers
Your garage looks empty and if I remember correctly you mentioned you had some news coming regarding your Intercepter. Thank you for the review.
Well I had to get my own bikes out so I could film this one - don’t worry, they were only around the corner! ...and yes, Interceptor reveal coming!
CB500X (2019 +) must be due for a review? Considered under 500cc bike of the year by MCN. Itchyboots riding an earlier CB500X on longer tours.
Stay tuned Pete - so many bikes so little time!
I think it's the best budget Adventure bike out there for the money, also easy on fuel.
Have same hooks in my garage but if I hang my motorcycle helmets on them will be full of spiders good review think I’ll stick with the Honda cb500x
Is that a treadmill I see in the garage? At the end of the video you called that KTM the “Duke” and not the “Adventure “. How do you deal with the arthritis in your shoulder? I’m developing the same thing. I played Hooker for 17 years in my younger days and think all those scrums contributed to my shoulder problem.
Looking forward to tomorrow’s launch of the new Triumph 850 T/Sport. You doing a vid like you did for the Trident?
I couldn't possibly comment (embargo'd until 12:00 tomorrow)......
I'd pick this bike over the 390 Duke (even for road only use). maybe stick full road tires? but I like the capability to take it off road on dirt roads and fire trails. . I'd also opt for the Akro exhaust and the Ergo seat, along with the bar raisers that KTM offers, adn the luggage rack. add bar end mirrors, and bike is perfect. Had this bike, LOVED it, traded it for a dual sport, and been regreting that choice for a while now. may pick up another one and set it up for off road (add a set of bar raisers, dirt bike style pegs, aluminium skid plate, and tougher mirros, along with spoked wheels and slightly more off road biased tires than the TKC70s (maybe TKC80s or Dunlop 606), and its a nice bike! Also, fact that for 2022 off road mode doesnt' reset when bikeis power off... I love this bike! will likely trade in dual sport for this bike.
Nice one Flyer
Loving the bottle's of Beck's on the side, is that incase things get tough in the man cave, or Mrs flyer kicks you out the house LoL 😂👍
Both!
I had one recently as a loaner while my DL650 was serviced - to me it felt a bit cheap, vibratory, and the handlebars were too wide. It very much felt like an off road bike which I guess it is. My vstrom felt so plush and planted in comparison
May I ask what you're using to hang you helmets up on please. They look handy
Garage hooks from EBay
I was looking for a light weight bike that I could transport on a rack behind the camper and was eagerly anticipating this 390 Adventure. However during the test ride I found I did not like it at all. It lacked character and of course, like all KTM’s, it excels in ugliness. Then I found a SWM Silvervase 440 with my Ducati dealer, which was lighter and cheaper. I test rode it and loved it. It has really nice classic looks with its nicely sculpted red 14 litre tank (not the original Silvervase with the 21 litre tank) and two analogue clocks (with small LCD for odo- and tripmeter). It is air-cooled, has 30hp, oodles of charactere and the exhaust sounds really nice. Seating position for me at 6.3 ft is really good. Excellent gearbox. No numb hands from vibrations. So far I did 2,000 km on it without any issues. Range is about 380 km till empty. It has become one of my favourite bikes and I own from Vespa through Ducati till Harley.
Well done for finding something different!
What type of insurance do you need to be able to test ride lots of bikes?
Very much enjoying mine as a great 2nd bike and agree on most things you mention. Seat feels fine to me (although I'm carrying a bit more timber than you) and the mirrors/plastic don't bother me either. I do get tingly hands at times but think that's down to the single cylinder vibes and it'll be interesting to see if it's improved with the rubber Oxford hot grips I've just fitted. The hard plastic originals are a bit naff. Just need lockdown to end to try them although might have to go food shopping on it.... Slightly jealous of my mate picking up his new Speed Twin today.
So have you found any local green lanes yet??
@@TheMissendenFlyer No but been watching your old stuff on your CRF. I thought green lanes were closed this time of year?
Bum trauma sounds like something Chops would suffer. I like the KTM for a smaller engine bike, but agree with your comments regarding the plastic and mirror gaiters. Can i ask what hooks you use for your helmet storage. Thanks
Just garage hooks from eBay....
Andy you been on holiday or you rocking a spray tan 😁. Luv your reviews mate
Neither - this was recorded back in the summer - seems a long time ago now!
Hi mate. Nice review. I heard some low end torque issues so far with this model in particular. Could you say a bit more on this.. thank you
Not sure I can!! Sorry…not heard that before
Hey Flyer, do you have any thoughts on the 2022 390 Adventure vs the outgoing model? Love your videos!
Not off the top of my head - need to ride the new one first - sorry about that!
Hey did you get the chance to ride the new model ... I've ordered it last month but the delivery would commence from April end or May .. 2021 is really available ... So I'm confused .. to wait or get the last year model
Hey Andy, hope you're well. Is the TMF branded polo shirt you are wearing in ths video the current version on your website please?
Yes it is!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Great, thanks D
Hi Andy, i've often wondered what your objection to keyless ignition is?
Just one more thing that can crap out on you.
The rubber gaiters are probably there to stop the mirror fastening threads/swivel at each end from rusting. If it was your own bike it would be easy to take them off. The vibration was a much more serious issue and has put me off buying
I am seriously considering this one as my very first motorbike, deciding between this and Himalayan. I really like all the ultra-simplicity and vintage aura of Himalayan. But it seems like for +1000 EUR I'd be getting a far more advanced motorcycle - safer, better handling, a bit more powerful and overall higher quality (I hope, although I know they're both made in India). Also, it appears it's almost 30kg lighter, which sounds like a huge difference for a beginner wanting to do light offroad? What do you folks think, please?
Great first bike - go for it....
Looks great just the front mudguard wasnt so close to the wheel give bit more off-road look.
Good point!
Honda have released the CRF 250 l and Rally in 300 versions in Thailand. Lets hope they bring them to Europe.
Europe and the UK 🧐
Did you really think brexit meant they left europe? Come on man 😅
Might be a good bike but not a fan of the plastic Flash Gordon look.. I prefer the Himi but sadly my 2018 has had all sorts of issues and the local dealer hasn't been able to fix it. 😭
Yet another good video
Thank you John!
You should do a comparison between the ktm and the cb500x.
I’m looking at both of these. Was always a Honda guy!
@@brian-doesnt-know i'm also looking at these both i've had a cb500x and it was a super bike great engine and slightly faster top end. can't help feeling the safe bets with the Honda
I’m looking at getting the Advenrure or the Duke, I think I’m leaning toward the Adventure How tall are you ? I’m 5’9 . Was wondering if I could stand flat foot over the seat.
I’m 5’8”
Hi, Between trk 502x and 390adv ? Bogotá Colombia.
So I have a deposit down on a 2021 Honda CRF300L, but I've been considering the 390. You mentioned you have a CRF250L. I know the 250L is a little more dirt focused, but would you advise the 390 over the 300L?
Tough one - both great - I personally would take the KTM
I loved my test ride of the 390 Adventure. I've not ordered one yet but I think I probably will. I'll get one in black like the one you had rather that white like the one I rode.
Did you order it? How has it been? Any problems encountered?
@@akuskus Yes I got it at the end of 2020. All fine so far... Lots of vids of it on my channel.. A particularly good one coming out on Weds 18 Aug.
@@Screamifyoumeanit Nice, thanks for answering. Definitely checking out your videos. I am also considering the bike while being a bit cautious about reliability (which should be pretty good in reality). Have fun!
@@akuskus I've had no problems with reliability... That's why I use it over my other bikes (though they are a lot older). I just find it a fun , un-intimidating bike that is surprisingly nippy. I find the traction control turns it self back as soon as I start moving for some reason... Personally, I think it's a great bike.
So many better choices, and you grabbed one with your CRF, TMF👍👍
Well I'm not sure I'd completely agree - what makes you say that out of interest Brian?
@@TheMissendenFlyer
First and foremost, I would venture to say that the crf is going to more reliable in the long run.Also, I think a tft screen on a bike of this size and class is unnecessary.Unlike Honda dealers,KTM dealers, at least in my neck of the woods, are few and far between.Obviously an advantage if you must call upon a dealer to sort out a problem.
I’d go for the Suzuki DR 650 👍
@@TheMissendenFlyer
Not sure if I responded to your question Andy,but I think reliability is your ace in the hole with the CRF over the 390 adventure.
Just rest rode one in South Africa 🇿🇦 yesterday. Amazing machine for what is what designed. I wonder reliability long term though. It’s also not very stable at higher highway speeds but for what’s it’s worth, definitely getting one👌🤞🏾
It’s surprisingly stable at high speed, I had mine flat out the other day and it felt stable and not twitchy at all. Wind was quite an issue but it’s like that on any sit up style bike
Man, my new 2020 kawasaki versys X300 has auto neutral finder, no hunting around for neutral !
Had a Versys first, too buzzy at speed. This also leaves the Vesys on equipment for price... I don't have too much trouble finding neutral, it's just practise and I've had a lot of bikes with worse...
What's not to like, apart from the headlight(does n't work for me) as a package at that price fantastic. Cheers TMF.
Thanks for watching John....
What!? You don't want to ride a praying mantis? I guess you're just not into entomology.
Thanks for the honest review and maybe with all the faults the bike isn't for me.
Andy, loft hatch (access panel) needs putting back.
It’s been like that a while 😂👍
Indeed, it’s been like that forever - there is no hatch....