A KTM 390 Adventure - What its like offroad.
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- In this video I talk about my experience riding the the KTM 390 Adventure offroad, but not just any type of offroad riding. I talk about what it was like riding the Colorado Alpine passes and riding part of the Colorado Backcountry Discovery Route. I break the video down into pieces and talk about the engine, suspension, ergonomics and electronics. I have ridden this bike 2200 miles with almost half of those miles coming on dirt. I have actual overland trip experience on this bike above and beyond what you will see from the journalist that have reviewed this bike.
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One of the best purchases I ever made. Great value.
Me too I love this bike. I will ride it anywhere and everywhere. Thanks for commenting.
Thanks a lot Matt. I just bought this bike and your videos are much helpful. Keep them coming.
Excellent review, detailed on the most important points to consider before buying this little KTM
You are handling Ophir like a boss on that thing going up the Telluride side! Nice video, looks like you're having fun on that 390!
Excelent vídeo, thanks for sharing. Best regards from a catalonian 390 owner!
Brilliant. - from a fellow ktm adv 390 owner.
Super nice all yours videos. I have the 1190 adventure 2014. Love it.
Greeting from Patagonia Argentina
Outstanding video! You've sold me on this bike! I'm subbing without even checking out your other stuff! Thanks for sharing. :)
I have several other videos dedicated to the 390 ADV I think you find useful.
Thanks….excited to ride my adv 390 this winter
If I didn’t already own this bike, I’d buy one after watching your videos !! Cheers 🍺
Awesome. I looking into this, the new CRF300L and BMW G310... Leaning towards the KTM ;)
I am appreciating your videos. I have a 390 adventure and love my bike. As you say, it's fantastic if you use it for adventure touring. I use mine for daily commute to work, which makes going to work a pleasure.
same here I just got mine last week and am using it for daily commute to work. It feels like I am always on an adventure ride with less stress from the daily routine of commuting to work. I think I have made the best decision.
Good review on that bike Matt. You channel is growing my man!! As soon as I heal up I'll be doing the CABDR on my Beta. It was your video that changed my mind on taking all that deep sand on my Super Tenere. I very much appreciate you reviews and feedback on ADV riding and camping for us guys who are not "expert riders". I don't believe the average rider realizes the limitations of these machines. It's really a wake up call when I get off my loaded down Super Tenere and jump on my 300lb dual sport. You made a really good choice on a lightweight and very capable machine. Also you can't go wrong with Black Dog products. Thank you Sir!!
Thanks for watching I really appreciate the feedback. Let me know how the CABDR goes. I really want to get back out there. Cheers
Hey, Ollie. Have you ridden the CABDR section 1 miserable sand/gravel part yet. I'm really curious if the little 390 handles it better than Matt's experience.
Thanks for the very thorough evaluation. I just bought one of these and I appreciate all the information. Like you, I would have preferred more enduro-like capability (and I hope KTM comes out with an enduro version) but for 90% of what I do (commuting, weekend backroading) this lightweight bike should do just fine. I ordered the KTM bigger windshield for mine. Plan panniers etc. They're selling lots of these bikes and the aftermarket is going to be big for them.
A 390 Adventure R would be great. I expect the aftermarket parts will be plentiful. Enjoy the bike!
Great video and information ,hi from yaakob 🇸🇬 Singapore
I am from istanbul and i have ktm 390 adv. awsome bike. I found your channel. I follow you.
Thanks!
great clip for 390adv👍🏻
the main thing i like about this is that you went to taylor park and thats where i go quite often
Good insightful video Matt, I do own this wonderful machine and as you mentioned if we use it for what it's really made for, we have smiles all over with this machine 😊😊
#RajRideStories
Good and honest review Matt, thanks man. I took a demo ride on a 390 about three weeks ago and was blown away by it! I have three bikes at the moment, Kwak ZX9R Sports Bike, XT660Z Tenere for Adventure and the new Honda 125 Monkey Bike for Smiles and throwing in the back of my camper van for adventures.
After that demo ride on the 390, I think the ZX9R will be moving on and being replaced by the KTM. I’ve been interested in a smaller capacity adventure bike to sit alongside my beloved Tenere for sometime now and I think I’ve found what I need in the KTM 390. It’s ideal for the shorter, more localised, weekend way type adventures and will make a superb commute bike, being so light and flick-able.
Slightly off topic, but I really like that Tusk tank bag you have mounted up. I’m in the UK and I’ve searched and searched for one here, but it seems there are zero stockists over here? Do you happen to know if it a USA only sold product buddy?
Best regards,
Dazza. 🇬🇧
The Tusk tank bag is a in house brand from Rocky Mountain ATV and Motorcycle. I dont knowing they ship internationally. I am planning to do a review of the bag so I will include what I learn about shipping the bag. Thanks for feedback and comment. Cheers.
@@advmatt - Thanks Matt, I shall look them up. 👍
@@MrDazza64 The TUSK bag looks very similar to the Nelson-Rigg RG1045 (at least what they're known as here in Oz). If that helps.
Great video. Just an FYI, the Powerparts flat seat increased the seat height by about an inch! Still worth it, but it's got me on my tip toes.
Thanks for adding this comment, I knew it was a little taller but wasn't sure if being narrow would offset it.
Looks like a great all round adv bike. Way more appealing that the big heavy 200kg plus lumps like the t7, Africa twin, BMW's etc
You are absolutely right. I rode a big fat lump for a few years before I woke up. This bike is a blast.
also, wheelspan matters for 'effective ground clearance'. A shorter length bike will not need as much ground clearance on many obstacles, depending on shape. So that GS might actually have worse clearance for having the same clearance.
Absolutely correct. I was trying to find a good way and place to demonstrate it.
Really interested to hear how you like that BDCW skidplate, looks like it will be put to use with the adventures you take. I can't justify the cost, mostly ride on-road in Chicago.
Loved it
great video greetings from germany brandenburg :-)
thanks for the vid! as usual very well articulated. Do you mind going over you luggage setup for those long trips. I just got mine 2022 yesterday with 0 miles in it. I'm just getting started with it.
I just want to make sure that whatever luggage setup i do will work with it without burning it with the muffler just like what happen to my buddy on a gs310.
Yeah, I can do video in future on my luggage setup. It's a good topic.
Thxs
Would be nice if they'd come out with an R version of this bike. Just a bit more offroad focused. I did enjoy the test ride I had on one this past summer. Nice little machine.
I agree, an R model with spoked wheels would be incredibly popular.
@@advmatt really surprised there aren’t longer travel suspension upgrades available by now from aftermarket
@@reinhart482 me too. I have been watching some of the companies like Rally Raid. I have been researching replacing the forks on the 390 ADV with the forks from the 790 ADV. Both bikes use the APEX forks but the hub is different. I have some ideas how to make this happen but it won't be cheap. I hope with this bikes popularity aftermarket suspension upgrades are in development.
Much appreciated video’s. When you added the bar risers did you have to change or reroute the clutch cable. Alan
The only thing I had to do to accommodate the bar risers was move the clutch toward the center half an inch. There was just enough cable. I did a video on the risers that has better details. Thanks for watching.
G’day mate
Really enjoyed your review and you have confirmed to me everything I was looking for in a real world application review such as yours.
One thing i would like to know ( well a few things actually 😃)
1) info of the rear luggage racks ie; does it come standard with the Panier and rear box frame thingy ( i don’t know what you call that sorry)
2) which are the best value for money ( secure and tough) side Paniers and top box in your opinion?
3) if loading the bike to the max with a pillion passenger what rear suspension would you recommend to install that is still allowing me to have a soft ride once empty for daily commute in the city?
4) what is the stuff you have mounted at the front ?? Purpose , extra brackets used and did it affect the handling?
5) I think it’s perfect for me and where I go here in the Philippines 🇵🇭 just wanted to find out about these things as the bike isn’t yet available to us here and any info you can provide on what to add in addition to the stock setup would be very much appreciated 🙏🏼
Thanks in advance, ride safe, stay safe and healthy and hope you have a great Christmas 🎄 and a worry free 2021.
Cheers Jim
Ohh i forgot, if you look at my profile picture you see my current setup, it’s a Duke 200, and as you can see of all the gear it is just to small for the two of us, hence why i am thinking of buying the 390 Adventure once it’s on sale here in the Philippines 🇵🇭 hoping I can adjust the 390 for all the extra weight ( i know it’s not designed or recommend for carrying all this 🤷♂️) but hope to stop it from bottoming out once going off road.
Anyway that’s all 🥴😬😂
Hey Jim, there are a lot of questions here, let me see if I can cover all of them. The pannier racks are from a company in India, Zana International. I did a video on the pannier rack and the tail rack. It has all of the details you are looking for.. I dont have a recommendation on saddle bags. There are too many brands at different price points and features. It depends on your needs. As for the rear shock. The stock shock should work for you. You just have to adjust the preload ring for different loads. I would turn the preload ring to the max setting when you are fully loaded. You may also need to adjust the rebound setting to slow down how fast it reacts. The bags mounted to the front are my tools and puncture repair kit. I have a video on this which describes how to make your crash bar bags. Depending the market your bike may or may not come with crash bars. My bike came with them. I really enjoy riding this bike, it should work well for coming off of the Dule 200.
@@advmatt hi Matt, thanks for that, yes i know lots of questions hahah, i have a look at your other videos and for now that info of yours helps 👍
Stay safe and healthy mate, have a nice 🤞 Christmas 🎄
Another great video! I have a F800 GSA and it’s getting too heavy and tall for picking it up riding the trails for a 58 year old. I am seeking for something lighter and still enjoy the long travel. Did you consider the KTM 690 and 790 before decided on the 390? How does the 390 perform on the highway with other speeding traffic, heavy cross wind and comfort? Thanks!
I briefly considered the both the the 690 and 790. I did a video explaining my decision. It was last fall if you want to see all of my decision making. The 690 requires too many after market parts to make a long distance travel bike. The 790 costs more than I wanted to spend and I have seem some videos about these bikes and reliability issues. The 390 Adv can run 80mph if you want, although gas mileage is poor. The bike light so it can blown around more than a heavy bike. I avoid interstates as much as possible but when I do have use them the bike is adequate, nothing more. Overtaking another vehicle takes planning at high speeds. I am getting ready to do a nearly 3000 mile trip on my 390 Adv. It is perfectly suited, well except for the seat is you need something plush.
@@advmatt thank you for your reply! You have pretty much convinced me about the 390. Looking forward to watch your new adventure; especially, with the 390. Thanks again for everything!
Matt, I really like the 390 Adventure and would like to purchase one to do a BDR. But I am super concerned about reliability. How has your MC been -do you trust it? Also, do you have any problems keeping the revs up to go up and over mountain passes?
I totally trust my 390 Adv. I have ridden most of the CABDR on it and some of the Colorado Alpine passes. I have never had an issue with lack of power offroad. If you watch my video, "When everything goes wrong", you will see some pretty challenging terrain where I took the 390 Adv. Only issue I have is a blown rear shock at 10k miles. Those were hard miles. I do long distance travel and lots of offroad travel. It has been a great bike for me.
I too am coming from a 2017 R1200 GSA “big-pig” 600lb behemoth! I’m only 5’9”! 😂 I’m gonna love the lighter weight!
...I’m interested to see what 2021 has to offer in this KTM 390 and the updated BMW G310GS.
Those are the 2 bikes I’m considering. Any thoughts?
I have ridden the G310R, the smaller road version of the BMW. I like the engine of the KTM 390 much more. It has much more power that you can feel. I didnt like the seat of the G310GS when I sat on it. The way the seat pan is configured it feel like I could move around much. I do like that that there is a Rally Raid kit for the G310GS to get added suspension travel. For me it came down to the engine and stock suspension. The KTM is better. Hope this helps.
Superb video, Matt! I recently bought this bike and I haven't finished the break in period so I found this video just in time as I'm gearing up to take it off road soon.
There were some reservations when I first bought it but since I'm new to offroading, I think this will work out very well. I feel the bike definitely not going to be a limitation after watching this video - thank you!
Quick question - have you done anything to help with the lack of bottom end grunt? I'm considering changing the rear sprocket but I'm not fully sold on it just yet. Appreciate your thoughts!
I have not changed the gearing and probably wont. I think it has a good compromise for both onroad and offroad. As long as i kept the RPMs up it did everything I asked of it, which included really steep ascents in Colorado. Maybe ride a bit more and adjust how you ride this bike compared to others.
I did change its front sprocket to 14 teeth, did the trick for me
@@ageless1003 what sprokect did you get?
@@CallsItLikeISeizeIts duke 250, now we also have 48 teeth after market rear sprocket available in India as well.
boosterplug.com there are plenty of install videos and reveiws on YT !
Added to the sprocket change you will definitely notice improved power plus you can add the open type airbox lid plus a more free flow type exhaust if you want ( More hp ) up from 44hp to 46/47hp maybe more but from the research I have been doing it is the cheapest most effective modification for better cooler low end lugging without stalling!
Hi,
When you adjust the forks and reference clicks from open do you mean fully counter clock wise towards the - or fully clock wise towards the + ? Thanks! Great video!
Open is backed out counterclockwise, toward the '-'. This allows the most oil flow in the fork leg.
@@advmatt awesome thanks.
I'm curious as to how you decided on the 390 over other bikes like the CRF 300L or DR650? I'm a novice rider looking at getting back into the sport after 40 years, I rode off road a lot as a teenager. I'm now 58 years old, have a small build 5'7" tall, 32 inch inseam and weigh 140 lbs, so a lower seat height and lighter weight bike is important. I plan on doing about 50% pavement, 40% twin track and 10% single track, a long as some multi day trips. I would love your recommendation on a bike, what's your thoughts on how it compares to the CRF300 Rally and DR650 vs the 390 for me? Thanks in advance.
Hey JC, I did a video discussing all the issues that are of interest to you. Here is the link czcams.com/video/N6K0KmujefE/video.html hope this helps.
Hey matt. I've recently brought a 390 and I'm currently setting it up for gravel/ light trail and adventure riding. I've only ever had enduro bikes before so I wanted to ask if you turn off the traction control when off tarmac or does it work well if you leave it activated?
Great purchase. You have a lot of fun miles ahead of you. I turn TC off everytime I hit dirt.
@@advmatt cheers bro. Looking forward to riding it from the uk to Portugal in June!
Did you have to get new cables with the bar riser or did the stock fit?
Stock cables fit, I had to move the clutch 1/2" toward the center of the bars. That was all that was needed.
I wish it came with the spoked wheels instead of needing to spend another 1k from KTM for the set.
I agree, I dont understand why KTM hasn't released and "R" version.
We ll said about the "proper" application of the bike.
I notice you have added a wind deflector to the GIvi screen - is that something you use in all situations now or just for particular purposes?
I would like to see a link for the deflector,it goes very well with the Givi screen.
@@FrankJCone I also noticed that the MRA Touring screens typically come with a deflector as well. I seem to remember @ADVMatt commenting in his video on the screen that he didn't go for the taller screen at the time as he felt it could get in the way when off road (could be wrong here).
I added the extension to get the wind over my helmet at highway speeds. Because I have a camera on one side and communications on the other the wind noise is really loud. For extended offroad riding I pull off the deflector. I cant recommend this deflector because I had to modify it. The plastic retaining clips did not hold at speed and I had to install bolts and nuts to secure it in place. It is a bit of a hack job. If I didnt have stuff hanging off my helmet I wouldn't have installed it.
@@advmatt thanks for the feedback
svartpilen 401 vs ktm 390 adventure. What’s the difference? From what I can tell they’re very similar same suspension, engine, frame breaking system. So same bike but the less known is 4999$ vs 6199. Only advantage is better info screen wind protection and light crash bars come on ktm plus bigger fuel tank. But if you don’t care about that why not get the 1200$ less svartpilen 401?
The Svartpilen 401 is equivalent to the KTM 390 Duke specs. There are quite a few differences in these two bikes that make them handle differently. As for the cost difference, probably a marketing thing.
Man, nice how are those tkc70 tires on and off road !
I really like the TKC70 front tire and have the TKC70 Rocks on the rear. On the road they are fantastic. Offroad they have performed way better than I expected. The only time the front tries to wash out is when the road has a lot of silt or really deep gravel. Rear is amazing, digs and grabs.
Hi. What is the range with the standard tank. Thanks
It depends on how much gear you carry and how fast you ride. My best has been 200 miles, my worst with bad winds was 160 miles. Lots of offroad will also reduce the mileage some.
What windscreen did you find the best for wind protection?
I found the Puig windscreen yo be the best, but it is tall. Here is the video for it. czcams.com/video/uNAFzH0byrk/video.htmlsi=i3srngf20nu6q78I
Have you experienced any reliability issues with the bike?
I am looking to get a 390 but some of the forums have comments about certain issues like oil pressure. I've never bought a KTM before and was concerned about its reliability.
I haven't experienced any reliability issues with this bike. I have 5500 miles on it now and I am planning a one week 2500 mile ride on it. I haven't had any oil pressure issues but I will take a look. I infrequently experience an engine stall but it seems to be a problem with the 390 Duke as well. I was a bit nervous about buying a KTM too, but so far it has been a great bike, and I have ridden it hard. This bike is so much fun to ride and is really easy to ride. I am not sure there is another bike in the small adventure segment that compares, which is why I bought this one. Hope this helps.
@@advmatt Thanks for the info. I looked up the stalling issue and it appears to be related to the throttle body and having to clean it and the air box. There is a great video that shows how to resolve. Probably 2 hours work using a whole can of throttle cleaner, (if you know your way around). 8 hours for me on a good day.
czcams.com/video/MfozYH8W7sM/video.html
@@simonf.2504 thanks, I will take a look at that video.
Why didn't you go with the bash plate from KTM?
Because it was not available when I did this trip and I was waiting for Black Dog Cycle Works to release there skid plate.
Is the quick-shift really installed on all US 390 ADV? I never tried on my 2021 and thought it was a dealer-installed option. But the slipper clutch is so light that it's just fun to use and blip the throttle and match gear speed... I've heard that the US-spec bike has stronger wheel castings compared to some overseas markets. Have you heard of this or had any concerns with the alloys bending in gravel/rock riding? (thanks for the video on importance of doing oil/filter changes, especially that first oil AND filter swap!) --> czcams.com/video/SrrrEwSCY_k/video.html
I thought all of the U.S. bikes came with the quick shifter as a standard, but with this quick shifter you have to blip the throttle, it is not like more sophisticated shifters. To me it seems the same as clutchless shifting. I dont know about the wheels, but I can say I have pounded mine and they are hanging in there. I still want spoked wheels at some point, and I will convert them to tubeless.
Would you ride your bike on a KTM Adventure Rally?
I havent seen what is involved in KTM adventure rally so I dont know. I will say I have taken this bike places I would never have taken my R1200GS.
Anyone tested the stock crash guards?
I have now. They work as designed.
Hi man, how tall are you? I am scared that I will be to big for this bike
I am 5' 10". The bar risers helped the ergonomics, I need to get new footpegs that come back a little and lower another 1/2" inch. Try to get a test ride in.
How tall are you? Heard some say over 6ft are quite uncomfortable, any thoughts?
I am 5' 10". I am not sure how to answer your question. Bike fit is personal preference. I have an R1200GS and the 390 ADV is just as comfortable for me. With bar risers and new footpegs that are a little lower you can gain some cockpit space. Try to get a test ride if possible.
@@advmattappreciate the response, guess I'll just need to wait for the showroom to open up and I'll find out for myself! Really enjoyed this video though, clearly the issues I've seen in short term and first reaction reviews have not stopped you having plenty of enjoyment on the ktm. Safe riding!
@@uneasyrider5172 thanks. I have pushed this bike beyond it's intended purpose. It is really capable in my mediocre hands. Hopefully you get a chance to try one out soon.
The 390 adventure top speed 167kmph / 105mph
Cruising at 130kmph / 80mph Easily!!
I don't understand why everyone seems to think the 390 Adventure can't or won't maintain highway/ freeway speeds it's just not true !!!
If you need to overtake just kick it down to 5th gear and GO !!!
Totally agree, I am working on the complimentary video to this one talking about what this bike is like on the road. Should post within the next week to address all the questions I get about it on the road. Cheers.
3000 miles. Like the bike more everytime I ride it
Just hit 4500, am continually impressed.
How is it on the hwy?That's my question..
Good question. This bike is a blast to ride on the roads. It is light nimble and flickable. It is not intended for long hours at interstate speeds but can handle short stints without any problems. I have to re-record the road review for this bike. I hope to have it out in the next couple of months.
@@advmatt i think the industry as a whole needs to start dropping weight..Big ADV bikes are great on road and gravel but terrible offroad because their too heavy.If they put out a smaller bike with decent horsepower and a few road comforts i would be all over it in an instant.
Have you changed out the foot pegs?
Not yet. I am planning to order the Black Dog Cycle Works pegs in a few weeks.
Good deal. I Just bought a 390 today. Your videos helped me get a good sense of what is possible. Thank you for all your content and for the quick reply!
@@MyMn2 glad you found the videos useful. I have no doubt you will enjoy this bike. It is so much fun to ride. Cheers.
What panniers did you go with?
I was using the Givi Canyon bags but one came off and was list. I just purchased Tusk Pilot bags. I havent used them yet, but I am packed for a 10 day trip starting next week.
@@advmatt nice, so is that a GIVI rack? Or Tusk rack?
@@advryan1 its neither rack. The rack is from Zana International. I have a couple videos from last fall regarding the tail and pannier racks. Much less expensive solution.
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650 Triumphs were once known for HP…40 HP!
More than enough! Paired with a six speed transmission and now it does it all.
Its not an off road bike. Sure , it will go off road but the suspension and wheels are not designed for enduro.
Yep, not an offroad bike. It's an adventure bike. Not great at any one thing but capable of just about everything, slowly.
Tactical greetings ;)
But I don't wanna ride slower.... lol.
*it's, as in What It Is Like... grammar and spelling: important. Especially important if you want an adult to take your advice seriously.