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  • STS-1 The Launch of Columbia
    The launch countdown from T-7 minutes through SRB separation presented with various views
    Audio is composite PAO and air-to-ground
    All media courtesy NASA
    Some short sequences from Hail Columbia and US network
    With thanks to JFK1963NEWSVIDEOS on CZcams for the two static shots
    If you wish to donate please use paypal.me/lunarmodule5
    Thank you for continuing support
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Komentáře • 167

  • @indianapatsfan
    @indianapatsfan Před 2 lety +224

    Considering that they never did an unmanned launch of the shuttle, this is arguably the most daring mission ever undertaken by astronauts.

    • @dougbadgley6031
      @dougbadgley6031 Před 2 lety +7

      It sure was.

    • @donrichter3523
      @donrichter3523 Před 2 lety +20

      And to be honest, NASA didn’t screw around with crew selection. Young and Crippen were absolutely first rate astronauts and truly among the best we had.

    • @iitzfizz
      @iitzfizz Před 2 lety +4

      Indeed, you'd have to be brave to step aboard that beast. It's easy to see why they seek test pilots.

    • @robadams5799
      @robadams5799 Před 2 lety

      @@iitzfizz they didn't even have the luxury of a few unmanned test flights of the vehicles. Very brave indeed.

    • @heraldshalom2756
      @heraldshalom2756 Před rokem +2

      The moon landing was more daring 😌

  • @aerodynamickerbal
    @aerodynamickerbal Před 2 lety +90

    Fun fact: STS-1's launch was exactly 20 years after Yuri Gagarin's flight!

    • @jimbodeek
      @jimbodeek Před 2 lety +12

      From a tiny one-man capsule to a giant delta-winged spaceplane!

    • @scarecrow108productions7
      @scarecrow108productions7 Před rokem

      ​@@jimbodeekwe've come so far....

    • @scarecrow108productions7
      @scarecrow108productions7 Před rokem +6

      ​@@jimbodeekand from the first launch of STS-1 in 1981 down to the last launch of STS-135 in 2011. 30 years of service of the Space Shuttle.

    • @jeremycox2983
      @jeremycox2983 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Hail Columbia

    • @usmanaga3131
      @usmanaga3131 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@scarecrow108productions7and 14 death

  • @TPIR_Fan_1972
    @TPIR_Fan_1972 Před 5 měsíci +14

    I was 9 years old when this first shuttle launched. My mom gave me permission to get up at 4am to watch all of the "pre-game" commentary. It was exciting to watch then and was great to rewatch it here. Thank you.

    • @DJSHaKa
      @DJSHaKa Před 4 měsíci +1

      Cool story bro

  • @noelroberts8199
    @noelroberts8199 Před měsícem +3

    I can never get enough of these launches, it is amazing what man can achieve when a team like this can get together and dream then make it a reality, awesome🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀

  • @guilldea
    @guilldea Před 3 lety +27

    I was born in 95 so my view on spaceships is those massive lost relics of the past, seeing this machines get developed in your lifetime must've been crazy

    • @KentuckyFriedDoge
      @KentuckyFriedDoge Před 2 lety

      The last shuttle launched in 2011, you should have seen it

    • @robadams5799
      @robadams5799 Před 2 lety +2

      I was born exactly three months before Apollo 11 landed on the moon in 1969. Like many people my age I wanted to be an astronaut. I even had "The Space Shuttle Operator's Manual."

    • @jusnuts1443
      @jusnuts1443 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I was born in '67. The Apollo program was in full swing. I remember watching Apollo 17 land on the moon. But I was just a kid, so I thought it was routine.

  • @Reverend_Harrison86
    @Reverend_Harrison86 Před rokem +11

    This launch was amazing, not even an unmanned test

  • @robb406
    @robb406 Před 10 dny +1

    I can’t watch this and NOT hear Countdown by Rush in my head. I was 10 years old and remember watching this in Ms Bromowski’s classroom.

  • @joestimemachine6454
    @joestimemachine6454 Před 3 lety +43

    I can only imagine the excitement the engineers and scientists had seeing their baby finally shoot for the heavens.

  • @Met-Tech
    @Met-Tech Před rokem +9

    John Young, Bob Crippen, Frank Borman, Jim Lovell, and Bill Anders all have one thing in common: the biggest balls in the history of space travel.

  • @DRUmBEaTTS
    @DRUmBEaTTS Před 2 měsíci +2

    I’d love for Huge Harris’ voice to be used for every rocket launch. He set a standard which no one else has come close to. Somebody needs to develop a Hugh Harris voice simulator.

  • @kellyweingart3692
    @kellyweingart3692 Před 3 lety +10

    Hail Columbia!

  • @ghostrider-be9ek
    @ghostrider-be9ek Před 2 lety +11

    STS1 was very nearly lost as the body flap was pushed WAY past failure point by T-0 ignition of the main engine back blast - had the astronauts known what happened, they would have ejected

  • @walterbatista7594
    @walterbatista7594 Před 3 lety +6

    Amazing video, thank you very much lunarmodule5 👍👨‍🚀
    Hail STS-1 ❤

    • @lunarmodule5
      @lunarmodule5  Před 3 lety +3

      Thanks for all your support this week Walter - you have been working like a champ as John Young would say

    • @walterbatista7594
      @walterbatista7594 Před 3 lety +1

      @@lunarmodule5 👍👨‍🚀

  • @rajnirvan3336
    @rajnirvan3336 Před rokem +2

    I remember here in UK when it was being broadcasted on BBC and ITV news simultaneously. I was 3 years old and got excited by what I saw

  • @SuperFlashDriver
    @SuperFlashDriver Před 2 měsíci +2

    Fun Fact: This was one of the space shuttle launches to be shown on the countdown to Music Television's Launch of the channel on August 1st, 1981.

  • @jorgemartinez9769
    @jorgemartinez9769 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Recuerdo cuando era muy chico, y tiritaba de emoción, gracias.

  • @silversurfer66_
    @silversurfer66_ Před 3 lety +7

    I remember the luanch when i was a young lad and remembering the 2 astronauts could eject out of columbia and thinking this was madness and then realising why it was drop by NASA, the bug on a car window screen came to mind

  • @MrSteamDragon
    @MrSteamDragon Před 3 měsíci +2

    I remember rushing home after a night shift.. cooking (very quickly) some bangers and mash and then plonking myself down on the sofa, right in the middle with my eyes glued to the telly… I still can’t remember how I ate that meal!🤪…. I shall never forget it.

    • @jusnuts1443
      @jusnuts1443 Před 3 měsíci

      Sorry, I'm an American. But what are bangers and mash? I have been to Europe. I was stationed in Germany (West Germany, at the time!). I'm not up to speed on British cuisine. The "telly" thing gave you away!

    • @MrSteamDragon
      @MrSteamDragon Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@jusnuts1443 ha! … sausages and mash potato, a quick tasty meal .. usually served with baked beans 😅

    • @jusnuts1443
      @jusnuts1443 Před 2 měsíci

      What time's dinner? Sounds fine to me! @@MrSteamDragon

    • @SuperFlashDriver
      @SuperFlashDriver Před 2 měsíci

      Sounds like you had some quick mashed potatoes & cooked veggies I would say.

  • @allgood6760
    @allgood6760 Před 3 lety +3

    Awesome.. I have a Kiwi newspaper for STS1.. thanks from NZ 👍🇳🇿

  • @MontegaB
    @MontegaB Před 3 měsíci +2

    Craziest test flight in history. Props to Crippen & Young!

  • @SO_DIGITAL
    @SO_DIGITAL Před 5 měsíci +1

    Picture it. Me just before my 5th birthday, playing outside. My mom calls me inside. Come watch this. TV in South-Africa only started in 1976 so being able to watch something this cool at 14:00 on a Sunday was a novelty in of itself. The daily broadcasts normally only started at 17:30. Pumped in via Hartbeeshoek Earth Station near Johannesburg.

  • @peacethroughstrength172
    @peacethroughstrength172 Před 2 lety +4

    What a majestic time for us and glad to have lived during this era. Crip and Young, what can I say other than they had balls bigger than the universe! Young had done it all at this point, even driving that buggy on the moon rather aggressively lol, yet here he is with Crip putting it all on the line for the USA!

  • @pikasnipe1
    @pikasnipe1 Před rokem +2

    40yrs later, we are getting into fun times!

  • @MaistoHelix
    @MaistoHelix Před dnem

    I'm afraid to watch because there is commercials that ruin my experience...Thanks CZcams

  • @Deploracle
    @Deploracle Před 3 měsíci +2

    I remember every second of this, as well as Apollo. Why can't we do stuff like this anymore? We seem stuck in 'reinvent the wheel" mode. It's a shame Columbia didn't survive the program.

  • @paulguthrie4857
    @paulguthrie4857 Před rokem +7

    This was the most epic thing to happen since Star Wars hit the movie theaters!

  • @chefsanders9151
    @chefsanders9151 Před rokem +1

    I was 11 years old. The brought a TV into the room for us to watch. We were all on a knife's edge

  • @Scrapla1
    @Scrapla1 Před rokem +7

    Didn't the shockwave knock some heat tiles lose on launch? Thank God they made it back safely!

    • @PCCphoenix
      @PCCphoenix Před rokem +3

      Apparently it did, because it led to major improvements in the sound suppression system before STS 2.

    • @Heath-Gallagher
      @Heath-Gallagher Před rokem

      yes and the srb overpressure came very close to rendering the body flay useless,which would have resulted in a bail out at altitude.

    • @c.richardabbate742
      @c.richardabbate742 Před 3 měsíci

      Yes - 16 of them; most located on the OMS pod but also 2 near the nose.

  • @TEMPLE7D
    @TEMPLE7D Před rokem +6

    It’s interesting, you can see how violently the SRB fired. They weren’t supposed to fire so aggressively. Almost blew the orbiter up.
    The orbiter had slight damage. Including a locked flap that moved up and down 6 inches by the blast. Heavy modifications were made after this.

    • @lovetopew9054
      @lovetopew9054 Před rokem +4

      It had nothing to do with how the SRBs fired, it was an overpressure wave. The water sound suppression system was modified and the issue was fixed.

    • @TEMPLE7D
      @TEMPLE7D Před rokem

      @@lovetopew9054 if you say so ☺️

    • @Heath-Gallagher
      @Heath-Gallagher Před rokem +2

      @@TEMPLE7D the SRB over pressure was grossly underestimated by NASA and led to the body flap of the orbiter moving outside its limit of 9 degrees. luckily it still worked upon reentry, if it was rendered unserviceable the first flight of a billion dollar shuttle would have seen both pilots eject from the vehicle at altitude.

    • @timsampson4307
      @timsampson4307 Před 6 měsíci

      Comparing this launch to later one's, it seems the boosters lit, only a second or two after the mains. There was a "quickness" to the process.

  • @youbetcha6880
    @youbetcha6880 Před rokem +3

    I remember watching this as a five year old.

  • @HEXhibitionist
    @HEXhibitionist Před 7 měsíci +1

    I was 11 when I watched this magic moment on TV. For a long while I really thought the commentator was contantly directing his calls to a certain fellow called Mark. 😁

  • @danielgregory3295
    @danielgregory3295 Před rokem +4

    The first time was remarkable for the "sports car" acceleration off the pad--this ain't no Saturn V!!

    • @edwardgiugliano4925
      @edwardgiugliano4925 Před 5 měsíci +1

      A bunch of us played hooky from work and watched this on live TV. To me, the Shuttle's acceleration off the pad (compared to the Saturn's) was the biggest thing I remember from that day. That and the roll after lift off.

    • @danielgregory3295
      @danielgregory3295 Před 5 měsíci

      @@edwardgiugliano4925 Yep..love that roll program!!

  • @robertyates9500
    @robertyates9500 Před 3 lety +2

    Can anyone clarify what John Young said at 55 seconds in his transmission? He mentions "max q bar" but can't make out what he said before that. Did he say "434 max q bar reading?" Also at about 1:40 into the launch Brandenstein says, "Roger Columbia on the nice ride," but didn't hear the crew transmit anything before that which he was apparently replying to?

  • @ti994apc
    @ti994apc Před 12 hodinami

    Shuttle was only a dream, in reality, it never came close to what was promised.

  • @FellowManofAggieland
    @FellowManofAggieland Před 6 měsíci +2

    Where history was made…

  • @yassm
    @yassm Před 3 lety +6

    Muse have been Hella exciting watching it irl

    • @robadams5799
      @robadams5799 Před 2 lety

      It was, and back then nobody said "hella" or "irl."

  • @elhijodelchupacabra
    @elhijodelchupacabra Před 3 lety +6

    President Reagan was watching the Columbia launch from the White House while recovering from the assassination attempt.

    • @MagicAl5F4781
      @MagicAl5F4781 Před 3 lety +2

      The day after he got out of the hospital. Prior to being shot he had been scheduled to visit Houston during STS-1 but that was cancelled.

  • @olivergrumitt2601
    @olivergrumitt2601 Před 11 měsíci +1

    The first flight of the Shuttle was meant to start a new era in spaceflight, an era in which it would become cheaper, safer and routine. Of course,it turned out to be exactly the opposite - more expensive, more dangerous and anything but routine, with so many delays.
    This was the first flight of a crewed space vehicle with astronauts aboard, making it the most dangerous flight ever. This was also the first US spaceflight to end on land and not with a splashdown. The flight went well but tiles were missing, though not in a crucial area of the Shuttle, an early indication of the falling debris problem which would destroy Columbia 22 years later. Commander John Young, the only Moonwalker who flew on the Shuttle, made his 5th flight, the first astronaut to do so and would command the first Spacelab mission on Columbia 2 years later. Pilot Bob Crippen made his first flight and would later command the mission to repair the Solar Maximum Mission satellite.
    42 years later, crewed spaceflight is still not routine with only a few launches every year. Whether Starship will remains to be seen. SpaceX has managed to make launches cheaper and more routine with its Falcon rockets but so far only uncrewed flights. Starship is a much more complicated vehicle with 33 engines and it will be much more difficult to make spaceflight cheaper, safer and routine with people on board. We just have to wait and see.

    • @Deploracle
      @Deploracle Před 3 měsíci

      That simply isn't true. $196 billion dollars for 134 missions to orbit. That includes hauling and building the ISS, the Hubble telescope, various top-secret military loads, and countless communications, weather, geologic satellites.
      We've sent more money to Ukraine in the last 2 years. :(

  • @speedball1919
    @speedball1919 Před 3 lety +4

    John “Mark” McLeaish

  • @imagereader_9
    @imagereader_9 Před rokem +5

    This might seem silly but to this day I find one of the most amazing things about the shuttle from a structures standpoint is that forward strut that secures the orbiter to the external fuel tank. The stresses that little A frame must have been burdened with are beyond my ability to comprehend. There's the initial jolt of engine ignition and liftoff, then the insane shaking and vibration of Max-Q. A wonder the thing just didn't shear off. Then once in orbit it had better detach cleanly and not snag at the point of attachment to the orbiter and the thrusters on the orbiter give it just enough of a nudge at just the precise moment to lift it away from the tank.

    • @lunarmodule5
      @lunarmodule5  Před rokem

      A sobering thought indeed

    • @Deploracle
      @Deploracle Před 3 měsíci

      If it weren't for the shuttle's main engines providing thrust, that forward strut would have failed on the pad when the SRB's lit.

  • @_stardust62
    @_stardust62 Před 3 měsíci

    Floodlit in the hazy distance
    The star of this unearthly show
    Venting vapours, like the breath
    Of a sleeping white dragon
    Rush - countdown

  • @KC2MFCs
    @KC2MFCs Před rokem +2

    Didn't STS-1 have a chase plane following the shuttle through launch?

    • @lunarmodule5
      @lunarmodule5  Před rokem +1

      There were chase planes up ready in case there was a RTLS abort and to take film and pictures of the launch from 30,000 ft+

  • @stevemills7678
    @stevemills7678 Před 2 měsíci

    Have to be brave to get in that deathtrap

  • @2199SPUDMAN
    @2199SPUDMAN Před 4 měsíci

    6,500 ft. /sec at that point in the ascent.... a speed of almost a mile and a quarter per second! That's hauling !! USA USA USA!!

  • @jorgemartinez9769
    @jorgemartinez9769 Před 11 měsíci

  • @khalilhaimour7147
    @khalilhaimour7147 Před 5 měsíci

    9:24 Watching a space shuttle lunch as a kid when your parents shows up suddenly.

  • @salbrunetto9043
    @salbrunetto9043 Před rokem +1

    What did they mean by “your calls will be a little early?”

    • @lunarmodule5
      @lunarmodule5  Před rokem +4

      Because they got more performance from the SRBs and main engines than the simulations predicted pre-launch, they were reaching points in the launch profile earlier than they expected, so the calls by Houston that informed them they had reached certain abort points were going to happen sooner than the crew would have trained for in all the Sims they flew pre-mission. Hope that makes sense! Regards LM5

  • @valeriewagner8455
    @valeriewagner8455 Před 3 měsíci

    Why is it that people / onlookers have to stand that far away from a launch ?

    • @kitcanyon658
      @kitcanyon658 Před 3 měsíci

      So that they don't get injured or killed if the things needs to be destroyed.

  • @bobleece4152
    @bobleece4152 Před rokem +3

    I wish they would have updated the shuttles with Nuclear engines. Then used them as deep space ships.

    • @TEMPLE7D
      @TEMPLE7D Před rokem

      What propulsion are you getting with a nuclear engine?

    • @bobleece4152
      @bobleece4152 Před rokem

      @@TEMPLE7D do you mean Specific impulse or what?

    • @TEMPLE7D
      @TEMPLE7D Před rokem

      @@bobleece4152 Oh that? Ehhhhhhhhh. That technology is still being worked on.

    • @bobleece4152
      @bobleece4152 Před rokem

      @@TEMPLE7D Nuclear propulsion has been around since the 1950's. Here's a link. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_thermal_rocket

    • @TEMPLE7D
      @TEMPLE7D Před rokem

      @@bobleece4152 so why haven’t we used that as a viable fuel instead of these explosive rockets?

  • @justmoonwithamustache
    @justmoonwithamustache Před 2 lety +3

    It's such a shame that the shuttle was expensive and risky.

    • @thomasfx3190
      @thomasfx3190 Před 2 lety

      @$10,000 a pound to LEO it was a bargain! 2 wrecks in 153+ launches was expected, the astronauts knew it.

    • @sieldi.
      @sieldi. Před rokem

      @@thomasfx3190 fun fact: the risk rate was predicted to be less to everyone until after the last launch

    • @Deploracle
      @Deploracle Před 3 měsíci

      It was safe and decidedly inexpensive.

    • @executivesteps
      @executivesteps Před 3 měsíci

      @@thomasfx3190Total nonsense BS. No “wrecks were expected”. Had we somehow known 2 orbiters and 14 astronauts would die after only 135 missions the program would never have been funded.

  • @PCCphoenix
    @PCCphoenix Před 2 měsíci

    6:55--T -10

  • @QuizWriterMark
    @QuizWriterMark Před 4 měsíci

    The main NASA camera feed covering the launch was terrible.

    • @wildlifeonwheels4236
      @wildlifeonwheels4236 Před 3 měsíci

      You do understand this was in 1981? They didn't have 4K cameras back then

  • @faktisletztenendes
    @faktisletztenendes Před 3 lety +4

    Oh, that disappointment when all the 🍊 came in... Let's save some weight & money, they said. Let's spare all the white paintings for the main tank, it also looks great in orange, they said... And the whole Florida State seniors were happily driving their ⛳ carts ever after... 😢

    • @lunarmodule5
      @lunarmodule5  Před 3 lety +1

      I know, right?

    • @faktisletztenendes
      @faktisletztenendes Před 3 lety +1

      @@lunarmodule5 I'm sorry for posting unqualified remarks, sometimes. The main tank of course was called external tank. I started to just call him "Rusty", one bad day 😂

    • @robadams5799
      @robadams5799 Před 2 lety +2

      So I'm guessing by the context that the orange emoji means "orange external tanks"?

    • @paulguthrie4857
      @paulguthrie4857 Před rokem

      Didn't it save a truck in weight, to not paint it?

    • @machirim2805
      @machirim2805 Před rokem

      @@paulguthrie4857 Leaving it unpainted only saved ~660 lb. A pickup truck weighs more.

  • @Number8of10
    @Number8of10 Před rokem

    White paint on the external fuel tank - when NASA was worried about foam degrading and coming off. That's not gonna be a recurring theme at all....

    • @codymoe4986
      @codymoe4986 Před rokem

      Recurring theme? Coold you do a Top 10 list please?

    • @Random-yh9tj
      @Random-yh9tj Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@codymoe4986STS-107

  • @keeganyocum3300
    @keeganyocum3300 Před rokem

    7:05

  • @yassassin6425
    @yassassin6425 Před rokem +1

    "Columbia is now turning towards, its precise window in space for main engine cutoff
    ... 40 seconds"
    "Columbia now 39 nautical miles altitude 42 nautical miles downrange"
    "Columbia you are looking a little hot and all your calls will be a little early"
    "Young and Crippen really moving out now. Velocity now reading 6200 feet per second"
    "What a view, what a view" "Glad you're enjoying it"
    "G800 to LOS"
    "Columbia Houston, we have 40 seconds to LOS"
    "You're looking good burning over the hill"
    "We will see you in Madrid and we enjoyed the music" "Bob thank you"
    "We enjoyed it, just wanted to share some with you."

  • @Austelltrains
    @Austelltrains Před 2 lety

    I bet this space shuttle cost $1 billion

  • @449michael
    @449michael Před 3 měsíci

    Don't watch this. They interrupted the actual launch with a rude commercial for something that nobody will buy.

    • @lunarmodule5
      @lunarmodule5  Před 3 měsíci

      I dont monetise my videos - YT puts ads on whenever and wherever it wants to - I have no control over it - sometimes it is because of a "copyright" issue - but sometimes not -

  • @davidbergenstock1802
    @davidbergenstock1802 Před rokem +1

    To bad it couldn’t do what it was designed to do.

    • @codymoe4986
      @codymoe4986 Před rokem +1

      What was it designed to do? Oh yeah...Deliver crew and cargo to LEO and return to Earth...
      Exactly what it did, well over a 100 times...try again...

    • @g4obb
      @g4obb Před 10 měsíci

      Bit like me then!

    • @Deploracle
      @Deploracle Před 3 měsíci

      It's was the most successful NASA program ever. Most everything large that is in orbit today was put there by the shuttles.

    • @executivesteps
      @executivesteps Před 3 měsíci

      @@codymoe4986Uh you left out 40 flights per year (one month turn around per orbiter), reduce costs, and 400 mission with no loss of vehicle or crew.
      None of of those design criteria were met.
      Turned out way more expensive than ELVs, only 8 missions per year and lost 2 orbiters killing 14 astronauts.

  • @danshearer7627
    @danshearer7627 Před 3 měsíci

    My son and I call the STS acronym the Suicide Launch System - You are riding on rockets that can't be turned off once they ignite. SRBs are great on payloads that are expendable. Humans are not expendable.

    • @Deploracle
      @Deploracle Před 3 měsíci

      The SRBs did pretty well though .. only one failure in 134 flights.

    • @executivesteps
      @executivesteps Před 3 měsíci

      @@DeploracleWhich resulted in loss of crew and vehicle.

    • @TheCosmicGuy0111
      @TheCosmicGuy0111 Před 5 dny

      @@executivestepscould’ve been avoided though if they would’ve listened to engineers.

    • @executivesteps
      @executivesteps Před 5 dny

      @@Deploracle An SRB failure is a guaranteed loss of vehicle and loss of crew.
      One out of 134 (actually 268) is NOT “pretty well” on a crewed vehicle with no provision for escape.

    • @Deploracle
      @Deploracle Před 5 dny

      @@executivesteps As CosmicGuy said above .. had the Morton Thiokol engineer's advice been heeded .. the Shuttle could have had a perfect launch record.
      The SRBs didn't fail .. they were forced into use beyond their design parameters. The humans lit the candle .. the rest is history.

  • @michaelbugliosi735
    @michaelbugliosi735 Před rokem +1

    although the space shuttle program was a massive failure, it's fun to think about what could have been

    • @lovetopew9054
      @lovetopew9054 Před rokem +5

      Far from a failure.

    • @crocodile1313
      @crocodile1313 Před rokem +3

      Give me a break....

    • @crocodile1313
      @crocodile1313 Před rokem +4

      @@lovetopew9054 Yes, very FAR from being a failure. Trolls are everywhere it seems.

    • @lovetopew9054
      @lovetopew9054 Před rokem +3

      @@crocodile1313 probably trolls. Nobody’s that ignorant, then again…..

    • @Deploracle
      @Deploracle Před 3 měsíci

      Lots of SpaceX fans have been programmed to say this. I guess that is part of Elon's selling point. Nothing could be farther from the truth though.