No More Set Plays! A Complete Guide to Basketball 5-out Motion Offense
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- The 5-out motion offense is a fantastic primary offense for basketball teams at any level, but especially for youth basketball teams.
In this video I show a complete 5-out motion offense playbook.
We start with the basic setup with all 5 players outside of the 3 point line. Then we go through the progressions of basic cutting, screen away, on-ball screens, back door cuts and more advanced variations.
I show you all the advantages but also some weaknesses, the essential rules and principles and which coaching points are important.
This offense will help your basketball players to develop and learn the game of Basketball. That's why this is an ideal offense motion not only for beginners.
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00:00 Intro
01:15 Setup
01:35 Basic Cutting
02:23 Main Rules
05:25 Screen Away
06:45 On-Ball Screen
08:33 Back cut and dribble at
09:23 Advanced Variations
10:21 Strengths and Weaknesses
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Thanks man! im a basketball player and i have been trying to prepare for plays my future coach shows me. Now i can understand how to cut, fill spaces so our offense cant collapse, and attack the rim at any cost
Love to hear. Glad I could help.
Been running this offense for years now. Well explained. I think there are a few more disadvantages, that must not be overlooked. Like getting stuck in the motions and not attacking enough. Also at least a reasonable amount of shooting skill is required, otherwise opponents can just fall back a bit and the paint becomes crowded, which will make it very hard to score.
Right. Also, a weakness in this offense is getting the opportunity for offensive rebounds. Especially if the defense is in a zone
That’s why 1. You go 4 out eventually learning this and teach same concepts
2. Learn to drive off the cutter
And bump behind driver
@@tylernicks9992 you don’t run man offenses vs zones. They have great offenses for zones. Look up coach Daniel
@@mattprice302 Any offense can beat zone with some simple zone adjustments. It's not as black and white as many coaches paint it to be. You're just using your actions to attack gaps and defensive exchanges to freeze defenders, force help, or flood a specific defenders zone. Zone is man and man is zone. It's still just the basic, 0,1, or 2 passes away from the ball with switching.
@@allincoachn7281 5 out can easily become 4 out. They are effectively interchangeable when using punch action or PNR.
Very similar to the Read and React offense. I really like the way you describe it and provide some alternatives. I've run this for the past few years with my grade school/middle school players. Kiddos as young as third grade can do this offense. Thank you!
My thoughts exactly
Isn't 5-out pass+cut essentially a read&react offense?
muy buen sistema ofensivo, ideal para que los jugadores comiencen a jugar con una base y puedan desarrollar sus habilidades individuales y en equipo. saludos
Ideally, you want the court to be spaced as best you can, but having 4 out 1 in or even 3 out 2 in is sometimes the way to go, especially if you have great glass cleaners/post scorers that struggle from 3.
I completely agree with not limiting yourself to set plays though, that's why I'm a huge believer in the old school coach Knight motion offense. Impossible to really scout because basketball is being played based off good decisions & instinct, rather than robotic set plays.
Thanks for this! I’ve been trying to enjoy watching basketball on a deeper level and have been looking for a video that explains this since it’s the most commonly used offense in the nba today.
Impresive
Nice channel. You have my sub.
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I’m a newbie coach. Will definitely try this with my team. Another disadvantage I see is less rebounding help. Shooter must rebound their own miss, which is good practice, but it is good to have backup on the boards.
Rebounding in 5-out can look difficult in first glance. Every coach handles it differently, depending on your personal coaching style and the strengths of your players. One option is that the bigs always go to the boards and the guards play safety. Another idea is that the players closest to the board, e.g. everybody below free-throw line rebounds, all others play safety. More important is toughness and the will to crash the boards.
@@basketballorbit absolutely. I’ve seen plenty of videos on rebounding and I really want my team to become a team of rebounders and not just relying on the bigs. So I will try having anyone below the free throw line responsible for boards.
@@basketballorbit your videos are the best I’ve seen so far, I really like the court animation, it makes everything much clearer than other videos I’ve seen.
Rebounding is the same, 1 weak, 1 strong, 1 middle and two long rebounders.
Should have 3 other guys crashing the boards on thr drive.
And if ballhandler picks up dribble the guy who was crashing turns into a slasher for an open layup
thank u
I have run in this offense before included as a 3, during a tournament championship
There are many versions of 5 out . Including one I call wave 🌊 action. But in general the game breaks down into 2 and 3 man micro games . Give and go , pass and screen away, up screen ,down screen, pick and roll , pass and split screen cut, Screener come back to the ball, zipper cut , reverse zipper cut , pick and pop, backdoor . . But you have the basic idea down of maintaining spread spacing ie fill and replace , if a space empties fill it. And don't forget the import of seeing at 3 levels from the triple threat position ( shoot, drive, pass) the object is to score or help a teammate to do so. Without the ball there's always something to do screen, cut , or position for a rebound . Don't just stand around. Ball and man motion are essential to achieving flow.
thats do complicated
@@jayden358 the game may seem 1 on 1 to you , but try playing 1 on 5 because you're teammates will quit on you. As has been said many times before a star is not a constellation, there's no I in TEAM , but there is in WIN. YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO BOTH OR ALL OF THE AFOREMENTIONED .
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I like this video a lot since it's a nice explanation on how you can easily learn the 5-out motion from scratch. I got a question however on minute 9 you speak of a hand off...however this seems to be a "dribble at" since the player clears and the ball doesn't get switched...or am i missing something?
You are right. The video shows a dribble at. But it can be both, a dribble at or a pass to the wing followed by a hand off from the top player.
I coach a 7th/8th grade team and we play M2M defense only. We recently played a team that ran a similar motion offense and we beat them by 20+. The reason - this level of basketball simply does not have enough capable ball handlers and with a well disciplined defense, this offense does exactly what you stated - gets caught up in rotating the ball around the perimeter eventually leading to a bad pass.
My initial thoughts: this is not an offense for a team lower than high school level. Junior high and lower almost always have players who cannot handle the ball especially under pressure. Under no circumstances would I want one of these players, regardless of position, to have the ball 20 feet from the basket looking to make an entry pass to a cutter.
I coach a 1-4 motion offense that allows for cuts, hand-offs, constant movement, with ball reversals and player rotation still keeping my 'bigs' inside where they are most effective at both shooting and second-chance rebounding. The offense described here immediately puts shorter teams at a disadvantage for rebounding, and a well-disciplined zone defense (which I absolutely believe should be banned until high school) will prevent drives and dominate rebounding.
This can work,, but it requires a skill level often not seen until at least high school, and in smaller communities (like mine) likely not until varsity level.
The main reason why we play this offense with all our youth teams is the long-term development of the players, including teaching the bigs how to dribble, shoot and pass from outside. The kids love the freedom in play, but still have enough structure. Unfortunately, it's part of the game that you're struggling with this in the early stages. I totally agree with you on the zone defense point. There are ways to beat a zone with 5-out motion offense. I'll be covering that in another video. 1-4 is not far away from 5-out and can be a better choice especially against a zone. Thank you very much for your comment.
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My dad coached this offense throughout the 90s at the Jr high level primarily, but also down to 3rd grade. He won championship after championship at all levels.
Disagree 100%. I've run a variation of this for years, even against disciplined defenses, it is effective if run correctly. The ball is the fastest thing on the court. If the ball is fluid and moving, even disciplined defenses get distorted. Once they know the basics, they can destroy M2M by reading the defender.
That’s good info, I’m going to borrow some. If the pros on here have improvements? I’m sure I could find them on your respective webpages?
You are welcome! Unfortunately there is no webpage yet. I let you know when there is one.
No "offense" 😂, but in youth sports I think I like Coach (Dean) Smith's pass & cut motion offense - they are very similar, but I find it next to impossible to find one player skilled enough to handle the ball more than a second before passing, shooting or more likely, turning the ball over!
Good stuff tho
I feel the same way. All of these offensive sets require players that can dribble well with both hands, pass well, have good footwork, and can shoot with range. 50% of my players are still learning how to pivot, how to dribble well, etc., let alone make a sharp pass to a cutter, dive the lane, or jack up a shot from anything more than about 8-10 feet. I don’t know where all these coaches are getting players that can execute anything close to this. Now, if I had 3-4 hours a week to coach them, maybe? I het these kids for an hour a week, I’m just hoping that can make 50% of their layups under duress. Feel me?
Nice explanation of the 5 out. 5 out can be ok if your opposition are playing man but as you say if they go to zone you will struggle at the youth level as you have to switch to an outside game for the 3 point shots. Almost all youth teams I have coached do not have that ability. You often find at the lower grade youth levels a grouping of defenders in the key. Not really a zone but it acts like one due to poor skills. Personally I run a 4-1 with the option for the post to come out for a 5. It is easier in a 4-1 to create an overload on one side for the zone. I also like to play a high post leaving space at the ring for cutters. I have found that 5 out keeps defenders lower to the ring.
I totally agree. Screens and cuts can also be helpful against a zone defense. A post player can fill the gaps, but must be integrated well in the offensive motion.
We see zone defenses often and we attack it by running the 4-1 or even 3-2 (I have two post players but no good shooters =/). We work to overload one side of the zone, kind of like a triangle offense. The key is patience, move the ball around. For my older kids, I have the players cut and then post before they fill. It surprises the zone defenders to have the cutters post up. Opens up the lanes as it changes the zones focus.
Just adjust your cuts to hook into the gaps of the zone making sure they flash into the gap after the zone shifts. You make your 5 out into a 4 out and you don't have a stale post player moving from one side to another. Almost every 4 out offense at the college level lifts their single post from the dunker spot to screen the zone on the perimeter. Now you have the benefit of an active post and you are putting pressure on a second defender. In 5 out you can create the same thing with an initial screen away off of a.delay action reversal that will get a much easier post entry than static fighting in the block.
Do you make adjustments vs zones?
I'll cover that in another video soon, but here are some ideas:
One wing can flash into the high post when the ball is at the opposite wing or you can switch to a 4-out 1-in offense and have a big player on the high post. However the key is to attack the gaps and have fast player and ball movement. On-ball screens, backdoor cuts from the weakside players and cuts along the baseline can work as well.
Does this work if you have no 3pt shooters or long-mid-range shooters? Meaning teams stay low too mid range.
If your team lacks 3-point shooters or players with long-mid-range shooting capabilities, it doesn't necessarily mean that the 5-out motion offense won't work for your team. Here are a few considerations:
Adaptability of the Offense:
The 5-out motion offense is adaptable, and its success doesn't solely rely on outside shooting. While having shooters can stretch the defense and create additional scoring opportunities, the offense is designed to emphasize player movement, passing, cutting, and decision-making.
Focus on Player Strengths:
Evaluate your players' strengths and adapt the offense accordingly. If you have players who excel in driving to the basket, finishing in the paint, or creating opportunities in the mid-range, you can tailor the offense to capitalize on these strengths.
Inside Scoring Opportunities:
Without a strong emphasis on outside shooting, the offense can be designed to create scoring opportunities closer to the basket. Utilize cuts, screens, and drives to create openings for layups or short-range shots.
Screening and Cutting:
Emphasize effective screening and cutting. If your team is more comfortable in the mid-range, use screens to free up players for those shots or encourage cutting to the basket for higher-percentage attempts.
The success of any offensive system is often tied to how well it suits the strengths of your players. You can experiment with different strategies in practice, and find a balance that maximizes your team's potential.
Read and React 101
Both Bigs (Center & Power Forward) should not be on the same level at the beginning of possessions. 1 of them should start the possession at the wing spot.
Preferably the left wing.
The idea is to create maximum spacing between players. You don't necessarily have 2 bigs on the court. But your suggestion can be a good alternative at the beginning.👍
@@basketballorbit It's actually good to have 2 Bigs on the court together for interior defense. 👍
Don't put both of them on the bottom level together because both post defenders will clog the paint. Let 1 of your bigs start the offensive possession at the LEFT WING. Your best 3-point shooter should be in the LEFT CORNER because most teams keep the ball on the right side too long.
Speaking as a former basketball head coach.
@@deandrepage1048 Don't the bigs and the defenders shuffle as soon as you make one pass?
I coach 9-11 year old youths. Like all rec/youth/YMCA league ball, I get one hour of practice a week. How can I teach them anything useful that will stick with one hour a week. This just seems too complex for kids that are still learning the fundamentals. Thoughts?
With this limited time, it can make sense to choose one or at most two aspects of the motion offense, everthing else is too complex for this age. I would go into the spacing aspect. The Kids have the best opportunity to develop.
One hour per week? 10 min dribble practice, 10 min passing, 10 min lay ups, 10 min partner shooting/rebounding, 20 minutes 3 v 3 half court rules with possible rules like offense must cut after every pass then find open space, or only can score with layups, or get extra points for offensive rebounds, or extra points for scoring off a pass and cut, or a pick and roll, etc… then a homework practice challenge of dribbling every day, or passing with parents, or one v one siblings…
I ran this offense in high school in the mid 90’s and its great if you have shooters, aggressive cutters and dudes who can crash. Its not great when you are all bricks…
Is a 5 out effective against zone defense ?
Yes, it definitely is effective. Depending on the zone defense and the strengths of your team, a 4-1 is another good option. The key is to create space and movement of ball and players. You can start with a high post and use backdoor cuts as well.
5 out is simply an alignment, not an offense. How you adjust your actions to zone looks is what matters.
Was hälst Du von Dribble Drive Motion?
Ich mag es sehr, weil es die Spieler in die richtige Richtung entwickelt. Viele Freiheiten, viel Verantwortung, viele individuelle Skills. Man braucht aber athletische Spieler und guter Werfer. Das Team muss sich gut kennen und diszipliniert sein. Für die Verteidigung ist es schwer, weil sie viel unter Druck ist.
@@basketballorbit Ich finde es baut sehr gut auf 5-out oder 4-1 motion offense auf. Die Anforderungen an die Spieler in Sachen Athletik und Shooting finde ich gleich. Es wird halt alles was komplexer. Hier wird es ganz gut erklärt czcams.com/video/GEv8Hx0073I/video.html
What's a "if no 1,2 if possible"? A pass, shot?
A 1,2 is a give and go. If a give and go is not possible, the motion offense continues with another pass to the next Player on the perimeter.
What age is this best for?
You can run the 5-out motion offense at every age and level since it allows your players to develop into well-rounded players. At 12 you can start with the basics. Even professional senior teams use it.
You have to have 5 skilled players to be successful with this play. Set plays get the ball to who you want to have it which is the best way to exploit mismatches. The NBA can run this because they have the best players in the world
5-out is not the first choice when you want to have the ball in the hands of your key player. But it's the best offense if you want to develop each of your players into a key player.
Definitely not true. 5 out is merely and initial alignment with maximized spacing to initiate your actions. You can easily set up a two man game on one side of the floor, a 3 man on-ball action, a 3 man off ball action, or a 2 man off ball action. Not everyone needs to be capable of breaking someone down off the dribble. Components of an offensive system are spacing, player movement and ball movement. 5-out alignment can achieve all of that working outside in and penetrating the perimeter, instead of inside out. It also gives a distinct advantage in post positioning and pinch post positioning.
Is this what Bob Knight used?
I don't know if he described the 5-out motion offense that way, but some of his ideas can be found here, for example the concept of spacing, inside cuts or screen away.
5 out actually limits spacing opportunities. It also requires your 5 best players to be perimeter players. Not really practical at high school as you take the best players in the building
Right, in today's Basketball it becomes more and more imprtant to have well-rounded players who can play inside and outside. Imagine Kevin Durant, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Franz Wagner or now Victor Wembanyama were limited to be only inside players.
Spacing in 5-out refers to the space between players but also to an open key. That offers opportunities to drive to the basket as well as for post-up plays.
@@basketballorbit
Most teams do not have a long list of long athletic wings that can score from all three levels. This is especially true in high school where you are lucky to have even 2 or 3 such players with no shot at having 5. When it comes to high school teams you are developing talent to fill out the roster. It just so happens teaching a big strong kid how to drop step and shoot a baby hook is far easier than developing someone to be a do it all wing.
When you say it creates space for post ups you just changed the entire system. Through posting up the system just became a 4 around 1 which ironically is far more practical for 99 percent of teams.
Not necessarily true. It helps to have perimeter capable players but it isn't a necessity. Your actions are what dictates your player skill utilization. 5 out is merely a spacing alignment to initiate actions.
@@whothatswho7756right, but to reply upon this time after time over the course of a game, the defence will be able to read it easily, as most coaches only teach the actions which are ball focussed.
There is very little action taking place weak side and off ball. Unlike in Flex or triangle where there are multiple actions taking place, this read and react bs just skips all of this and shoehorns players into this “system” in a way which makes them purely ball watching. It’s like zombie basketball.
@@jameslborg This comment tells me you have no idea what you are talking about. 5 out isn't the sole domain of the read and react offense. Besides if you really knew the R&R system you would know that it does in fact have iterations in 3 out and 4 out built into the system. Two of those layers are POST-centric. I might also add that the read and react offense foundation layers are present in EVERY SINGLE OFFENSE in basketball. As a whole the foundation layers teach base level team skills, operating in primarily single condition to teach young players how to move without the ball, in relation to both the ball AND the defender(s). From what alignment you run it from is completely up to you. The system also has enhanced layers in the offense that create off-ball conditions. Anyway all that R&R crap aside, I merely made a comment that 5 out is simply a spacing alignment nothing more. If you chose to run it your on-ball and off-ball actions are built around that alignment, it's that simple. Basketball is a component driven architecture, the alignment just sets the initial stage for those component actions to take place, whatever they may be. How you space the floor initially is a lot less important than the CZcams public realizes because eventually you morph into different alignments as you run through your actions. For example if you start in 5 out, run a simple delay with a pass/cut/fill, and you go Empty with punch action, you're now in 4 out as an offense with 3 players on the weak side. One of the major advantages of starting in a 5 out alignment is your bigs can run downhill to establish post. Run an off ball flex action with a screen and seal, guess what, you're now in 3-2. Run Floppy or Diamond, and your initially in the 1 out alignment with 4 posts then morph into whatever. All offensive actions should have counters (REACTIONS) built-in based on the READ anyway. As for FLEX and the Triangle offense, they are essentially dead as primary offenses at the highest level of the sport because of the crappy spacing they create post-defensive hand checking rule changes in the sport. Flex action is still present as a component (usually initiated from 5 out I might add), but the flex continuity died off back in 2002 when Maryland was still relevant under Gary Williams. WHY? shitty spacing. TLDR: People focus way too much on the alignment and confuse it for an actual offense or offensive actions.
Bro I'm running plays. They're much more effective off the inbound.
Amen. And players know where to go and what to do. This Read & React is just a shoehorning fallacy
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The problem with this offense is that it turns into a 1 on 1 game and basketball is a team game
1 on 1 is only one option of the 5-out motion offense. Other options are give and go, pick and roll or drive and kick. You can find all the different options in the video.
I understand that, but an open offense has better players to just go one on one all the time instead of using their teammates
Why would I want a middle school player or a high school player? 22 feet from the basket when his range is 12 feet?
Definitely true. Good shooters can be very helpful. I like teaching how to drive to the basket at this age. Because 5-out creates space in the paint every player has the chance to learn this from a young age, even the "bigs". This doesn't lead necessarily to a 1 on 1 game because of the multiple options the 5-out motion offense has.
In practical application, how does this offense work for youth players who generally have a shooting range limited to 12 feet an in. I coach 9-11 year old girls, and I’ve only come across one player- just one- who has legitimate reliable range outside of about 10-12 feet.
You can’t just run a five out offense !!! You have to run offense that fits your team !!! You Ma actually have to do some coaching !!!
Definetly true. When you start coaching 5-out from a very young age you develop your players into well rounded players so that they can run every offense in the world later on. The key of coaching youth players is to teach players, not plays.
THAT IS STILL A SET PLAY.
So many coaches are falling for this bs. They’re even saying to me “we don’t need set plays now”. 🤦🏻♂️
Am I the only kid here?
No
Why do you pretend? That is not yours, all concepts you are talking about taken from R&R