AARON GWIN Talks the PROTOTYPE Intense DH Bike
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- čas přidán 21. 03. 2022
- We caught up with Aaron Gwin at the Tennessee National downhill mountain bike race to discuss the new Intense prototype DH bike he and the IFR team just started running. It's a high-pivot alloy suspension design with 29-inch front wheel and 27.5-inch rear. Aaron talks about the past few years and his struggles with the previous prototype and how they came to develop this new bike. At this point, he was not discussing specifics about suspension kinematics or geometry. #MTB #DH #downhill
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With Aaron you always get an honest detailed interview, it would be nice to see him back in the fight, after all, he's still got it.
I was impressed with the length and detail he put into his answers. Probably an indication that the questions were on point as well.
Because M29 wasn’t a friendly bike. Aaron lost his mojo after switching to intense. Even jack moir was vocal about not being comfortable with bike and set up. Look at neko now, he won local races and comfortable with his new design frame. Hope this design works for gwin
@@veronicaisl Yeah, I hope you are right.
Love this raw aluminum look. Hope that thing works well again, we wanna see you battling the frenchies 😁👍👌
What an awesome genuine guy Gwin is! Struggling with results but still willing to give motivated underdogs like VEE Tires a chance. He is so down to earth. Really have a heart and a lot of respect for this dude.
Gwin is looking like he's in good shape too. Hopefully luck stays on his side and he can put down some solid race runs. Would love to see him Qualify 1 at Lourdes.
If his chain breaks hes probably gonna win
@@merijn639 LOL
This is great! Really digging this deeper dive into the behind the scenes stuff. This season should be great and I’m really looking forward to more of this. Should be fun watching you and Neko continue to develop bikes over the race season.
Nice interview. Gotta love this guy always authentic.
Love watching Gwin race! He always puts on a show.
Bike looks awesome. Def looking forward to being able to ride one.
What a project, the man's a winner anyway hopefully he'll get a trouble-free season and results will come
I'm sensing a deja vu moment happening this wknd, Frenchy's in trouble and i don't think they'll even see it comin,can't wait!The Gwinner is back!
Man this is so exciting. Can't wait to watch Gwin perform this season. I also feel like Intense kinda faded into the background lately and I feel like this will put them back on the spotlight.
I for one cannot wait to find out how he gets on with this bike in the weeks to come.
Wow, this is an exciting time for the Intense brand, Jeff, Aaron and the rest of the team. It makes me nervous as a fan that they are going into the season on a brand new bike and unproven tires but it sounds like they've got it all figured out. I've been on Intense bikes for a long time so GO team INTENSE!!! So stoked for the new DH season...
@Trisquelo I’m really getting sick of hearing people say that, if you are at World Cup level a different tire brand isn’t going to make you lose.
@Trisquelo Relax man. Unproven for this team and rider. I've not heard much about this tire.
@@Gehajjs62727 Really? Are you riding at a WC level? Tires are all different from tread design, side wall protection, compound, grip, all sorts of things are different and can make for a better or worse tire. If they are comfortable on them then it's all good. I wasn't saying anything bad about the brand. The more brands out there for us all to choose from the better, I welcome it.
@@RickyDownhillRDH The only reason Gwin is slow is because he is well out of his prime and has more to live for than a few years ago. A WC rider will be fast on anything, it’s about skill not the bike.
@@Gehajjs62727 That may be true, or not. Look at Greg Minnaar, still fast after all these years. 👍🏼 I think it'll be interesting this year to see what Gwin can do.
great interview
Aaron really knows what he wants from a bike, so good to see that he is now happy with bike they developed?
Is definitely an interesting design, not so good looking, but how it works is the main goal !
Kind of a dark horse for this seasson then.. looking for it. GL Aaron, everything seems to be on the right track for you..
Can't wait to see their new Enduro bikes. Been refreshing that page for what feels like months
Yeah me too man. I wanted to buy one, got tired of waiting since I was still on my 2016 Tracer, so I bought a GG Gnarvana. I wanted to stay on Intense, but they just couldn't put that enduro out. Bummer.
Kudos to Jeff and Aaron and Intense 🤙
Wish they would get a gearbox on a bike like this these days. Like the new Effigear Mimic 9-speed. Looking at the shock position and mounting points it looks like it would work where you could actually match up the bottom shock mount and the bolt spacing of the gearbox and worst case they make custom plates for the frame to allow that.
You can used a fixed and centred rear hub which means better and stronger wheels also.
I would also love to see this. No more snapped chains on dh runs, no more broken derailleurs, and less unsprung weight. As far as I can tell, it is a win win win for a dh race bike.
Absolute legend. Don't think he's fast enough for the Frenchies but would love to see it
New bike. New tires. Two huge variables. Good luck Gwin and Intense this season.
Vee HAS to be better than Kenda right? Vee is a big company and has the facilities and resources to produce real DH tires I'd think.
That bike reminds me my old Kona stab deluxe and the rear geometry looks really similar. Rear shock also. That bike was smooth and quick. Hope this one's feel right for you
I’m digging it !
Still on my older Tracer 2 and it gets a ton of attention. Love I tense bikes and what they stand for…gonna be a great season for him
I loved my tracer 2s, cracked both of them at the seat tube though. Now on a recluse for the past 2 years and it’s a blast to rip!
@@whothat4684 I’ve been lucky enough not to crack it yet which is surprising since I practically DH the thing but yeah, badass bikes 🤙🏻
Super glad Jeff took an open mind with these bikes, and started from scratch. Seems like it was definitely an equipment issue. Aaron sounds a lot more positive. Neko got his new bike and is doing way better. Jack Moir is on a new bike and is No. 1 in EWS... That's all bad news for Intense, but good news, like Aaron said, is now hopefully they found the answer.
@Trisquelo LMAO!! What are you referring oh wise one?
@@Windband1 This Trisquelo is a TROLL man. Ignore him.
@@randomsmusicvideos1987 LOL. Oh, thanks mate.
@@randomsmusicvideos1987 LOL. that's funny.
Watch intense find out horst link is the answer and totally move on from dual link haha. I've always liked the way intense bikes looked, no personal experience though. Not sure why everyone seems to shit on them, they were revolutionary back in the day. For a downhill bike, I could see horst being the better option.
Windrock eh? I knew it as soon as I saw the opening clip of AAron riding the rock hip. Great in depth view of what was going on. Maybe because they trust the engineers who designed the bike? I'm not sure. But after talking to a lot of people they rarely blame the equipment, they always blame themselves first. This video makes me wonder about my own equipment but I've been making some changes that have made me more confident in my riding. I've never felt right in with the cockpit I had set up. I finally got bars and grips that work and feel right to me, now maybe just the stem length needs to be increased because I still feel cramped. I had to change pedals too because I didnt feel planted, now I do. I've been looking at Intense, but I never really considered them because of cost. Just outside of my budget and its more of a dream bike for me. I love the design and the look of the bikes. Some of the most gorgeous bikes out there.
I hope Gwin returns this year with a bang. He seems like a real cool and down to earth guy.
Still cant believe that rocker is apparently abled to withstand the forces 🤯
That thing is sick. Good story too
It is AMAZING.....!
STAY. HEALTHY.
respect to JEFF for putting ego or what ever aside
aluminum bikes making a comeback
Mules are generally alloy, easier to change while developing
@@maverick2242
I know but aluminum is stronger longer lasting. Look at commencal and few others .
Anyone know what cranks are on the bike? Thanks :)
Nice!
I saw a Intense van driving by today in Missouri. I cot up to it, thinking it was Aaron; but no. That’s probably why I was able to catch up to the van in my small car. Haha
Finally intense listening to their riders.
Haven't really been into intense or downhill that much, but after watching this video and seeing how humble and hungry they are,...I will be watching and rooting for them.
Aaron saying the m29 sucks with out saying it’s sucks
He’s also the 1% of 1%…doesn’t mean the bike sucks at all.
Windrock is such a gnarly park.
This is nice
I guess with so much information shared spy shots and speculation. It is pleasant to hear how the inside process looks like. Very much appreciated 🙌. The look of the bike is unique, but primarily it is a race bike. Good luck ⚙️
We weren't really sure if it was the bike so we tried some other bikes. Turns out it was the bike.
Gwin is the best
That setup looks like it would be fighting itself with compression forces. Like almost to the point where it would almost want to extend the shock initially or put the forces through the bearings and seat stay instead of the shock. I'm not a suspension engineer though so perhaps completely wrong. I wonder what small bump is like and what pressure is required.
yeah, I thought the same when I saw that bike. Maybe it acts differently because of the high pivot but just looking at it seems like the linkage pivot should be higher up on the seat tube so it doesnt bind. I'm guessing the design is to prevent excess pedal-bob but like you said, the angles look weird compared to other good bike designs.
Great interview, but please, dial the audio! Wireless Lapel for the win!
The leverage on that link is crazy.
Wow that’s pretty tough on your confidence. Development aye… I really like the raw alloy finish though. Just polish and lacquer maybe. The paint seems to hide all that lovely engineering
will we actually see this make its way into production that's the question
The new tire company's name, please? Great work Aaron and Jeff.
*Please say maxxis. Please say maxxis!*
He’s got his sh!t together
So many pre season videos and training tips etc, lets hope the results are going to come. To me a great rider never blames his bike. All bikes take some getting used to... The fast frenchies have really upped the pace the last couple of years and even the greats such as Minnaar are struggling to keep up the pace consistently. But all the best for the seaso, would be good to see you at the sharp end of things again.
Definitely agreed with the idea of not blaming the bike. People these days are always looking for the slightest marginal gains, paying $1000 thinking the next upgrade will change everything. In blind tests, I don't think most could even tell differences between many things. But with a pro at Aaron's level I do think he can tell. It may not even be anything wrong with the bike. But if the m29 coincided with other bad things, he may have lost his confidence with that platform. Once you lose your confidence on something it can really mess with your head and pushing it doesn't really help. I think it's a smart approach with just starting fresh with something new. Maybe in the future he goes back to the old bike and suddenly finds its working great. Sometimes it's worth just moving on.
@@dylan-5287 The Hunger, thats what we look for in DH, letting it all hang out and finding that maximum margine and pushing just beyond it. Will be good to see if the beloved old timers like Greg and Aaron can find the pace at Fort Bill. Amoury is on a heater so far and looks so powerful on the bike.
@@donczns Greg sure came through with world Champs last year. I think mindset is more important than age, but there sure is a strong trend there lol. Definitely agree on mindset. The French riders are legit crazy. Half of them get air lifted off the mountains at least once per season. Daprela biting through his tongue, being on a liquid diet, and still winning a world cup less than a week later last year was insane. Fingers crossed for Aaron.
What the heck is the seat for?
the complete pro
How come I don’t see people using the new revolutionary oval wheel more?
Go get there ass ! Can't wait
I cant say for all you guys, but after the new Commencal Supreme DH launch, the looks was very strange... Very thin, very open, looks strange to me...
I think this one have a great shape, looks a bit old school... Really like the looks of this new Intense.
Sweeet ! But that derailleur looks interesting, SRAM's new kid ?
Ya know what this bike needs? a gearbox. the shape and arrangement of the bb area is 99% of the way there already. this thing with an Effigear 9spd would be just next level.
watching this after Neko's Video 3 on his bike was like watching Neil deGrasse Tyson explain particle physics and then watching someone tell you "yes there is a thing called physics"....in other words...i got nothin other than more "stoke talk"
For me, from both suspension kinematics as well as the actual tubing designs, Neko's bike is pretty primitive comparatively ( basically a garage version of the Trek split-pivot ). The I-Track program that Intense is using is much more sophisticated allowing for a suspension design that reflects the progress in understanding over the past few years.
💯👍😯
Always follow proto
Intense back on FSR suspension? But Hi Pivot.
Sepeda nya bagus👍
Next evolution of this design - the M1
Will Intense be producing this in carbon fiber?
high pivot ..remembrer the bb7 from balfa early 2000 ..they had something these guys ...
Yeah there have been several attempts at the high-pivots over the years. Looks like the engineering finally figured it out with so many of them out there.
I look at Gwin on the YT Tues like Jordan on the Bulls not the Wizards
Intense was a mistake for Gwin. Still is. I get the allure for a southern Californian. But Intense is best for the weekend warrior, not a racer. Hoping for the best for Gwinny and Dakota but not holding my breath.
You mean the brand in general or more the suspension design? Interesting he's back with a horst link which he's seemed to do very well with in the past. Dual link seems great for xc/trail bikes where you care a lot about pedaling efficiency but horst link seems a lot more solid for just tracking the ground and not being affected by braking. Hope this makes a big difference. I'd love to see Gwin killing it once again. Seems like a good change. But can't deny that move over to intense, and kenda tires, messed with something.
Se le veia mas rapido y comodo con el 27,5
Intense been slacking on releasing any DH bike.
he should try make it in steel because heavier bikes can go faster or add some weight around the crank
So to new apust for new #MTB guy rider #DH good intense in. Tennessee National series of the mountainbike so to discuss the new prototype in to. IFR teams of the #downill a so perforarmaces bike 🤟🏻🗣️🤟🏻yyaaSicke Saluds of Chile 🇨🇱 enjoy video
That's the name of the Intense DH mountain Bike call the finished model the 'DH Franken Bike'.
I thought all intenses were prototypes?
That’s FSR.
He likes to say “kinda”
fer sure
Speaks like a true socal brahhh
The Franken high pivot link is too siiick 😷🤢
Looks like a Session….
The tyres feel like a good excuse for lack of results, but I wish the man the best, Id love to see arron back in the top 5
Nah, tires are one place where brand absolutely matters. Maxxis is on a different level, although schwalbe seems to be up there too. Just look at all the racers with other tire sponsors. In promo pics they have their sponsor brand. On race day their tires are blacked out with sharpie lol..
Tolles Bike, damit kann er ja nicht schneller als 40 treten.!
Wow. Thats huge… Intense with an fsr suspension…… not vvp
Vpp/dual link is awesome for cross country or trail riders who want great pedal efficiency. But horst link for ultimate grip and ground tracking. For a dh bike I think this will really help him out.
maybe thats just me but in the last years gwin looks a bit too stiff on the bike. i think he just needs a good mindset and move the bike more
@Trisquelo i know
Call me old fashioned, blaming bikes /tools etc is it maybe possible that the pace just goes after a while? Youngsters getting faster etc etc . I guess the mentality between fun and racing always gets blurred with the pressures of racing.
Correct. I enjoy more riding my bike rather than racing and putting pressure to myself every time i compete.
Age is catching up. That's the factor that most can't handle well or tolerate.
Apparently no one told Greg minaar lol.
@@dylan-5287 each case is different..Greg is still winning, Aaron, not so much. Now apparently it's the bike that was slow... I mean, couldn't they have found that out by having him ride bikes from other brands for starters instead of waiting years to make this discovery? He should have a few YTs left from those days to instantly tell if the times are off due to the bike and not himself as a rider.
Also, crashes can change how a person rides. It varies from person to person but in F1 Nelson Piquet himself said after his crash he couldn't judge braking points as well and lost speed.
@@airhogglider definitely agree with what you're saying here. I think everyone has had a crash that took their confidence away. I usually feel off for at least a week or so, but I've seen guys who never get it back. From the video, it sounds like testing other bikes is exactly what they did. I think a horst link design vs dual link could definitely help him out. Sometimes you just need to start with something fresh. I could see how Intense and Jeff were probably telling him to stick with it and keep trying with the m29. I've got to imagine as a brand, completely changing away from a suspension design you worked hard on is a tough pill to swallow for one's pride. I wouldn't be surprised if Aaron gave them an ultimatum that either they try something fresh or he needs to go somewhere else. Fingers crossed!
@@dylan-5287 especially if things break like someone's leg (ie Anderson Silva). Gwin's ex team mate went privateer and made his own frame. There's not an infinite runway to race and as a person gets closer to 40 or beyond in any sport they need to think or have planned for retirement. You see this in F1 as well where the field has plenty of ex-Champions in crappier cars and not being on the podium anymore for seasons like Better or Alonso. Kimi retired. After a while, it's just a job and a paycheck. Max Verstappen is the defending Champion but he has no chance this year against Ferrari and he's got what he came here to get so he's content. Regardless, it's a good paying job. Hope Gwin got paid well for his contributions to Intense regardless of how it turns out in terms of results.
@@airhogglider he's definitely getting paid well but I'm sure it's less these days. From an article two or maybe three years ago, gwin was making over a million a year. Absolutely insane compared to how little most racers are making. I think that was mostly redbull though. I think he'd like to get at least a few more podium results or gold before he considers retiring. He seems to still have that drive. But you've got guys like gee Atherton or Brandon fairclough who still get out and consistently race even knowing they're pretty unlikely to win. Just out there having fun at this point. Biggest thing is staying away from life changing injuries.
How many prototypes does Gwinny need. Come on just no brake balls out buddy 😜🤠
Just focus on riding every bike is similar
For a weekend warrior you’re mostly right. But not at the elite level, having a good bike is a must.
frame looks heavy AF
20 minutes of Gwin excusing himself out of poor results, let’s hope intense can finally decide themselves on design
Looks like a Mullaly!
Mmmmm....not really
Yeah its raw aluminium, so it's identical....
The I shaped downtube and partially hidden shock looks a lot like Mulally's, I agree. Would like some detailed shots to compare side by side. I'm sure as friends and former teammates they've shared ideas which may coincide with their individual bike designs.
uh....when does he talk the prototype? Long ass vid with no much focus on the bike
How bout stop making carbon in Asia and bring jobs back here so we can be proud to have an American bike again?
Dh, dosent need carbon frames. It’s been proven over and over and over.
Carbon is about marketing, sells to old guys with Porsches and BMWs
There are a few brands building in the US still. Definitely support homemade if possible.
No more vpp...
Gwin isn't winning anything since he left YT. Maybe he should reconsider his partnership choices.
Dude acts like there’s no explanation for failing. It’s called getting old. It happens.
Greg minaar at world Champs last year..
*Yawn.*
AAron Gwin 👍
Intense Bike 👎
Must be a rider and not engineer..( i dont care who or how famous he is...). a lot of useless bla bla. No details about the bike
It's stupid how much bikes are now people like me can't go out for descent bike ride because there just to expensive I'm not riding a cheap bike last cheap one I had broke and even if I did save up probably take 3 years and how bike company send people on CZcams bikes for free try this for us then you can keep it I mean how much will they be in 5 years time like £30,000 for one bike