Excellent video, thanks for sharing this one. I've done my circuits on the 737 1 year 1/2 ago and I can remember every second of them. So many things happen in your head at that moment and you NEED a calm Captain that puts you at ease. You obviously don't get it nice and smooth the first time and if you want to keep your head up you need a collegue that puts you back in the game straight away. Does the DVD include touch-and-go's from the other pilots as well?
I just love how comfortable, understanding and 'cool' the captain is... I mean the guy's climbing into the seat when the gear is coming down, obviously there's a lot going on in this phase of flight and he's switching out pilots on the fly (no pun intended). Very, VERY cool!
"none of that" is a great phrase to use, not just in situations like this but in many other parts of life. The best part about it is it immediately disconnects the emotional side of what's happening and provides a firm prod to drop a person's reaction to whatever's just happened and move on.
love this, reminds me of my base training in the A320 after upgrading from much lighter aircraft. Just takes a few to lock in how much inertia heavy aircraft really have. It was a positive landing but not 'hard,' I think many people don't understand the difference. I think he did a good job here.
same when you are new with anything, it takes time to work it out, I bet when he first started his PPL training he found landing single engine aircraft a bit tough
He just flared it a little to late but that wasn't that bad it was a firm and secure landing. And the minimums call is the height where in bad visibility the runway must be in sight for landing. If not in sight at that point a go around is performed.
yes a very cool captain. the RH pilot switched seats after take off: the captain put the L/G lever to OFF from UP which is part of the after take-off procedure.
Who are these 3 people casting negative votes? I'd say this is one of the best Justplanes videos on CZcams and this DVD is a good candidate for purchasing. The talk the Captain gave about the pilot was interesting. First Officer "Andre" has come from 737s and A340s. The cockpit of the 747 is far higher off the ground than in those planes. Perhaps he was not expecting to make contact with the runway so soon. It does seem like the ground caught him by surprise.
Dam reminds me of my first landing in the C5-B, came in way to fast and way to low, hit the deck hard. Dam near blew the tire on my computer chair. That was 7 years ago. now I ace those tough landings and the wife even brings me a fresh beer once in awhile.
Yes, he seemed to flare a little too late. Also, I think he was going slightly too slow, shortly before touchdown the instructor asked for more power. If he's going slow he'll sink faster and land heavier.
A340's... you know those things tend to fly slower Vref and the A346 tends to have a similar Vref, although... it would fly more slippery in landing configurations, to much throttle and it's an instant overflare with a long long heavy tube full of ppl... and stopping it.... 747's need more n1 and the throttle handling and speedchecks are quite more active then on the ;safe; a.floor protected slipper snake A340... though my favorite aircraft.
I LOVE heavy training pilot videos. Love 'em: gives one a backseater's view, without the emotion there could be a mishap, of what these guys and gals go through in the "base training." I'm not getting the link to what DVD this is. Any info? Instructor to trainee (already qualified in the 737 & A340): "It's just a big 737." Even though he noted the trainee's 340 qualification he wanted to impress on him, I am supposing, there is more similarity to the 2-engined Boeing than to the 747's 4-engined competitor, the 340. Different characteristics altogether, regardless the weight and thrust similarities - somewhat. A good'un. Thank ya.
It is probably the fact that in the 747 the flight deck is higher up than in an A340 or 737. You feel higher so you flare later but the wheels are 40-50ft or so below you in a 747 not like in a 737.
HE DID SOME WHAT POSITIVE /SLIGHTLY HARD LANDING,I DID THAT 30 YEARS AGO IN 747 /SP AND 380 AS I REMEMBER,I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER,ANY WAY IT WAS EXHILARATING,AND A LOT OF HIGH,BUT I LOVED IT
You can call bs! It was a solid touch down but, you can also hear the urgency to flare in the captains voice! Which leads me to believe his rate of decent was higher than it should have been! Take a course in CRM and get back to me!
I think the big bump was because on the 737, you almost don't flare, some pilots say you fly the plane onto the runway. All they do is idle thrust at 10 feet and raise the nose just 1 degree up. The 747 however seems to use a completely different flaring procedure for landing...
That's got to be an expensive day of training! How many hours of seat time would he typically get before he will be behind the controls of a plane full of passengers?
seems like the guy on training as the cap said haves a freaking lot of hours in other planes, he just need to get used a bit on the height of the airplane and he is done !
What an encouraging instructor! I like this pilot and good luck on the 747, Brian!
Excellent video, thanks for sharing this one.
I've done my circuits on the 737 1 year 1/2 ago and I can remember every second of them. So many things happen in your head at that moment and you NEED a calm Captain that puts you at ease. You obviously don't get it nice and smooth the first time and if you want to keep your head up you need a collegue that puts you back in the game straight away.
Does the DVD include touch-and-go's from the other pilots as well?
That wasn't a hard landing, it was a positive runway engagement.
Richard Roel ..
I always say "controlled collision".
im gonna use that from now on
Navy landing.
I think the FO forgot to flare the A/C
@@clai889 He flared but he did too late so the wings did not have time to generate the required lift.
Perfect Training Captain, very calm and very reasuring.
I just love how comfortable, understanding and 'cool' the captain is... I mean the guy's climbing into the seat when the gear is coming down, obviously there's a lot going on in this phase of flight and he's switching out pilots on the fly (no pun intended). Very, VERY cool!
"none of that" is a great phrase to use, not just in situations like this but in many other parts of life. The best part about it is it immediately disconnects the emotional side of what's happening and provides a firm prod to drop a person's reaction to whatever's just happened and move on.
What a great instructor, even made me relaxed and comfortable watching it!
Touch and goes with a 747 holy crap XD
Excellent instructor. Forgiving 747.
Greets R.
Awesome.. looks like an amazing experience / challenge.
Haha the captain checks to see if he blew any tires
love this, reminds me of my base training in the A320 after upgrading from much lighter aircraft. Just takes a few to lock in how much inertia heavy aircraft really have. It was a positive landing but not 'hard,' I think many people don't understand the difference. I think he did a good job here.
Unless you see 3g's on touchdown it's not a "hard" landing. Firm...nothing bent and no paperwork or checks.
Love that remark, just like a 737. What a great instructor pilot!
Very cool captain, exactly the right kind of person you need for that job as a trainer
This was Runway 28 at Manston (Kent International Airport) now closed but was a great airport, I used to fly with TG there on the C152 and P828!!
same when you are new with anything, it takes time to work it out, I bet when he first started his PPL training he found landing single engine aircraft a bit tough
Wonderful instructor. Great job.
That was awesome! Big Smile :)
It's good when your mentors push you .Hopefully nobody was onboard.
Not a bad landing.. Flew it to the ground.. Kind of like landing on a carrier..
LOL! One hell of an arrester cable and hook! If they can land a C-130 on a carrier, why not a seven-four-seven?
Great team guys! have fun and happy landings ;-)
Stay calm, easy, push and pull, good instructor
This Captain is just wonderful !
Great instructor!
He just flared it a little to late but that wasn't that bad it was a firm and secure landing. And the minimums call is the height where in bad visibility the runway must be in sight for landing. If not in sight at that point a go around is performed.
Very good instructor !!!
very nice instructor...calms someone down :)
I like his says : " It's just like a big 737 " :D
nice vid :)
I have seen lots of landing videos but i was really scared to see this video 😂😂
I was gonn buy this DVD on Amazon but they ran out, I really wish I got this Dvd !!!
that was epic!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
yes a very cool captain. the RH pilot switched seats after take off: the captain put the L/G lever to OFF from UP which is part of the after take-off procedure.
Who are these 3 people casting negative votes? I'd say this is one of the best Justplanes videos on CZcams and this DVD is a good candidate for purchasing.
The talk the Captain gave about the pilot was interesting. First Officer "Andre" has come from 737s and A340s. The cockpit of the 747 is far higher off the ground than in those planes. Perhaps he was not expecting to make contact with the runway so soon. It does seem like the ground caught him by surprise.
He's probably used to the low cockpit of the 737 and the floatish/gentle flare character of the 737
Dam reminds me of my first landing in the C5-B, came in way to fast and way to low, hit the deck hard. Dam near blew the tire on my computer chair. That was 7 years ago. now I ace those tough landings and the wife even brings me a fresh beer once in awhile.
He was just doing necessary bounces in the aircraft. I think he did alright. Not bad for a first touch and go. He's just getting the feel of it.
Interesting, I guess it takes time getting used to the very high perspective of a 744 vis a vis when/how much to flare.
I do love this job
Yes, he seemed to flare a little too late. Also, I think he was going slightly too slow, shortly before touchdown the instructor asked for more power. If he's going slow he'll sink faster and land heavier.
Awesome landing ,awesome challenge
A340's... you know those things tend to fly slower Vref and the A346 tends to have a similar Vref, although... it would fly more slippery in landing configurations, to much throttle and it's an instant overflare with a long long heavy tube full of ppl... and stopping it....
747's need more n1 and the throttle handling and speedchecks are quite more active then on the ;safe; a.floor protected slipper snake A340... though my favorite aircraft.
I LOVE heavy training pilot videos. Love 'em: gives one a backseater's view, without the emotion there could be a mishap, of what these guys and gals go through in the "base training."
I'm not getting the link to what DVD this is. Any info?
Instructor to trainee (already qualified in the 737 & A340): "It's just a big 737."
Even though he noted the trainee's 340 qualification he wanted to impress on him, I am supposing, there is more similarity to the 2-engined Boeing than to the 747's 4-engined competitor, the 340. Different characteristics altogether, regardless the weight and thrust similarities - somewhat.
A good'un.
Thank ya.
nice too see manston again from the air used too fly pa 34 sencia from there it looks short from the approch god speed just planes
Flare flare! Oh shit xD nice video
the captain looks so nice.
It is probably the fact that in the 747 the flight deck is higher up than in an A340 or 737. You feel higher so you flare later but the wheels are 40-50ft or so below you in a 747 not like in a 737.
"Flare..." @ 50ft followed by "FLARE!" @ 20ft. Though a heavy landing, but still a landing that everyone can walk out with.
Captain is such a gentleman.
He forgot about flare :P 747 is kinda high cockpit of the ground, strange feeling.
Wow good piloting :)
HE DID SOME WHAT POSITIVE /SLIGHTLY HARD LANDING,I DID THAT 30 YEARS AGO IN 747 /SP AND 380 AS I REMEMBER,I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER,ANY WAY IT WAS EXHILARATING,AND A LOT OF HIGH,BUT I LOVED IT
what a great instructor
Oh I see :] Thank you!
just like learning to fly a piper cub great instructor
everyone needs a good CFI what they teach you stays with you in the good and the OH S situations
looked like a very decent approach and landing for a brand new guy on the seven four; no issues with this one at all
Crash & go!! ha! great upload!
Slightly late flare(might have started st 50ft) and more flare rate input.I see his stick handling similarish to Airbus side stick inputs.
Ouch! Gotta flare that baby at 30 ft. I can visualize what the touch down looked like from an exterior point of view. Those wings were flapping.
yeah I call BS, spend more hours looking closer at touchdowns.
You can call bs! It was a solid touch down but, you can also hear the urgency to flare in the captains voice! Which leads me to believe his rate of decent was higher than it should have been! Take a course in CRM and get back to me!
@@Siggy2404 Agreed... the rate of descent, determined from the RA callouts, was too quick.
That was awesome
youd've thought the capt. or others on flightdeck woulda told him, ahead of the approach, to flare @ 40-30ft!!
Got the #3 wire! We have all had our days like that
That was one hard landing!
50...40...get ready to flare...30...flare...20...10...*boom*...ah siht...*instructor checking if tires blew up*
I think the big bump was because on the 737, you almost don't flare, some pilots say you fly the plane onto the runway. All they do is idle thrust at 10 feet and raise the nose just 1 degree up. The 747 however seems to use a completely different flaring procedure for landing...
I wish all instructors would be like that.
On the 727, if the Flight Engineer started to rise in his seat to stand you knew it was going to be a cruncher.
That landing...Wow!
That's got to be an expensive day of training! How many hours of seat time would he typically get before he will be behind the controls of a plane full of passengers?
+Cian Broderick yes but only as first officer
A firm arrival!
lol i love when the captain said : sh!t after the touchdown xD
yeah its way to cool dude !! thats the way pilots do no freasking out ! !
he must have not been used to the different distance from the ground he is on the upper deck there.
seems like the guy on training as the cap said haves a freaking lot of hours in other planes, he just need to get used a bit on the height of the airplane and he is done !
nice one..
Oh I'm soo respect with the captain... I wish my former instructors as nice as him:((
Captain announced flare much too late. Pilot was also caught by surprise because didn't calculate how high 747's cockpit is compared to 737 or A340
yeah, you could even hear the captain/instructor say "Oh shit" or "Oh Shoot", but it was his first time being in a physical 744!
Congrats to him!
He definitely wasn't used to how high off the ground you are in the cockpit of a 747.
He brought that down heavy! oh well it's only his first flight i am sure he is a lot better now
Im gonna be real undemocratic now...but the 747 is the best, most badass aircraft in the world :D
FLARE FLARE FLARE!!! ...BOOOOMMM
I think that landing jostled my dentures!
he said flare 3 seconds earlier then he actually flared omg this is great
did he flared correctly? it looks like he just smashed on the ground,
before the era of full flight sims
i still don't know how to use the navigation
Probably used to the 737 eye/ground height
The "shit" got me bad. HAHA!
On speed in the touchdown zone ; )
I winced for him on that slam... :)
Yep
Captain: Let me check the gear page to make sure you didn't blow any tires before getting the gear up.
Very important to reset the flaps to the maximum energy configuration when a landing is aborted.
You could tell he was pretty nervous. But i mean who wouldn't be...
It was the first officer himself who said "shit".
JustPlanes can I ask were are you from? Just wondering, you don't have to answer... Have a nice day!
No different than jumping into a new rental car and figuring it all out in the first 5 minutes driving on the fwy.
SOUTH-AFRICAN pilot!
big guys piloting big plane. Logically
What airline is this