Andrew (Andrés in Spanish) It is imposible to explain it better. All the rational on behind starts with WHAT YOU WANT TO DO instead of HOW you want to do. It is totally different to drive to “travel to a remote place and film it or do pictures” than to “drive a huge American truck plenty of electronics, not tropicalized and with immense potential failures. This is not a joke for all adventures (either 4x4 or bikes); first you should define WHAT and after you should adapt the HOW. You are teaching the first lesson of all adventurers. Thank you very much Professor.
Well said Andrew! When i bought my 79 dual cab people would say the same thing. Oh they're overpriced, oh i can't justify spending that much money on a farm truck etc. Those people just don't get it. They never will. They can't justify the price tag because they can't see where the money went. It's all underneath. The engineering. No independent suspension, no rack and pinion steering which breaks all the time in rough off road situations, no sealed bearings which are easy to re-pack and replace on the side of the road, hardly any electronics and decades of proven use in the world's harshest conditions. You're paying for that R&D, that time, that simplicity and reliability. That camper you chose is absolutely awesome, and the rear axle relocation is a great modification for your setup. It will drive beautifully on outback tracks. And remember, the longer the wheelbase, the more comfortable the ride. I'm really looking forward to seeing it in action on your first trip away! Keep it up mate!
It's the badge you're paying for, it can't be the vehicle. If it's simple and remained pretty much unchanged for decades how can it command such a price. People say "you're paying for the Toyota reliability" and I don't dispute that at all. But when does reliability kick in? At what age do you/can you say that reliability begins? I'd say reliability would begin at around 7 years after something was first used or after 200,000kms. If you don't keep the vehicle up to & after that point, then you may be paying for something you won't use, the reliability. Not trying to create tension or argue, just raising a thought.
@@tengallonz I agree with you. Take the td42 GU patrol or 105 series cruiser as an example. They've had the better part of 20+ years of private R&D behind them and we know they work and how tough they are. We know all the short fallings of 79 series and that's just straight from factory not to mention the other issues popping up now (on top of the 70k+ price tag). The older 105s, 80s and patrols are built to last and if you even spent half of what you spent on a 79 on those you've got the most rock solid and simplistic rig going around exactly what a 4wd should be.
@@tengallonz you're not taking into account material costs today compared to 20 to 30 years ago. Forget the engineering for a moment. How much would an 80 series or gq patrol cost brand new today built exactly the same? A lot of people don't realise how much cost cutting manufacturers take to build new vehicles. Less metal, cheaper design etc. This goes for anything you buy not just cars. The only thing that's changed on the 79 series is the engine and slightly thinner panels to meet ANCAP safety requirements. Everything else is exactly the same. Imagine how much a 40 series would cost brand new built like it was back in the day? 70 grand is not a lot of money today, it's just people are used to buying cheaper cars that last half as long. I see the failures in the workshop every day on cheaper 4 wheel drives that people consider comfortable, fuel efficient etc. In reality they're shitheaps. The shortcomings of the 70 series people talk about are actually its strengths. Narrower rear axle purposely left like that for strength in heavy loading in mining use. When I worked in the mines the patrols would rust quickly from the coal dust. Things like metal quality that no one talks about. Not to mention the 70 series was used as a military vehicle. Troop carrier. Haven't seen any patrols or 80's used in the military. I wonder why??
Andrew bare with me on this but you are now looking at having the camper stand alone in relation to power. So what about engineering one of the rear doors into a gull wing or perhaps suicide door and by reducing the battery bank in the back seat you could put a fridge/ freezer in the back seat. Advantages- all the weight is well forward of the rear axle, the fridge will stay cooler due to the cab air conditioning, no need for a slide as it will be lower to the ground and the fridge is also part of the ute when the camper is off for day trips. Depending on the the fridge size you may not even need to change the doors but that’s a matter of choice on your part.
Not many "CZcamsrs" are as honest as Andrew. Such concise points in response to the commentators who don't understand the build. I must say that I'm surprised that there are so many people out there who just don't get it. In terms of drop down fridge slides, I too have considered acquiring one over the years but the weight has always put me off and will continue to do so, it's just not acceptable to take 40kg out of my vehicles GVM for a fridge slide.
Andrew you can never go wrong with a land cruiser I my self have 25 years of experience with toyota in EAST AFRICA TANZANIA and we have some of the harsh condition in the world. I really like your builds cause u remain practical and affordable all the best to your new project.
Simply brilliant Andrew... love watching and listening to every second of your videos. Maybe in my next life I'll be able to do the type of conversions that you are into and travel the world. I am 67 years old from Nepal and what you are doing now is my dream. I currently own a Nissan x trail t30 2004 model and do a lot of travelling within the country with my wife. All the very best and can't wait to see you in your new build out there in the bush.
I'm pretty sure Andrew speaks Afrikaans so maybe you didn't have to translate 'voortschrijdend inzicht' '-) About the second spare tyre: if you put just the tyre inside you can fill it up with, for example, recovery gear or towels etc. That way it hardly takes up any space at all!
Hi Andrew - i have been watching your programs since i was a young boy , used to video tape the shows (back in the day) and play it back ,listening to the amount of info you display in a recording. Over 30 years old now and still a fan . You do know your stuff , and some might disagree with your choices. And that is Fine ! Guys enjoy the hard work he puts in to this . Just my 2C . Durban - RSA
I see a lot of negative comments about the Ram. For my needs it's been a great fit. Plenty of power to tow my tractor, plenty of room for the dog and refrigerator, comfortable enough to drive all day and with a cap or canopy a ton of room for gear and a place to sleep. That being said imo Andrew made the right vehicle choice for his needs. The Ram is very large and heavy, not a good fit for tight trails, sand and in theory not as bullet proof as a 79 series.
I have watched all your videos and many of them several times over. There would never be a question from me of "why did you do this and not that? ( If I did it would only be to truly understand and most likely learn something." Your content is about you and your choices based on your needs. To me you are all about "why I did this" and that's how many of us are learning and why we are addicted to your content .(I am anyway) The very first video I saw I was hooked. If you think about that you gotta think why. Well, for me it's the detailed explaining of why, drawn from an abundant amount of experience. And yes, I love Land Cruisers, especially the ones we can't get in the States. Just wanna say, I greatly appreciate what you are doing along with all the time and effort you put into putting out good stuff. Good luck with the frig.
Really appreciate your content Andrew - and your honest and thoughtful opinions. Thought I would just chime in, as you mentioned the issue with track width, I've got an F250 which has traveled through a fair bit of Australia off road, and I've (touch wood) yet to have a puncture with it, despite doing the Madagan Line, quite a bit of Central Aus and Fraser island on worn out 20" All Terrains. You do have to close your eyes a bit to your paint work though with the extra width, but with the power (mine is a recent model and I've made some improvements to the engine power) and the good Automatic transmission, its a joy in sand, climbing the steepest part of Big Red with ease on its first attempt on a day where 9 vehicles in front of me (various Land Cruisers from a 200 to 79's to 80's and a 105, a Patrol wagon and Ute, and a couple of smaller dual cabs) all failed it. I also find that fuel economy I get is similar to friends that have Land Cruisers, unless you are regularly using all that power that is available (my Simpson desert figures made me blush). That said if you aren't familiar with a vehicle like this, I'm not sure I'd recommend them in Aus, if you factor in the modifications required to a Landcruiser the cost IMO isn't that much of an issue, and you have a much nicer platform (much stouter drivetrain, transmission and engine) that is quiet, comfortable and bloody luxurious. They also hold their value as well as a Landcruiser. I've owned a couple of F250's so I'm familiar with most of the idiosyncrasies, how to easily source parts when needed, and for what I am not comfortable to work on, I've got probably the best F250 mechanic in Aus about 15mins drive from my house... but the problem being is that none of them are built originally with the build quality of a Landcruiser (not talking about the major drivetrain components, I'd actually take the Cummins, Duramax or 6.7 Powerstroke over the 1VD for longevity, its the little things like sensors, switches etc.), and if there is an issue with it, the ability to pull into the closest town in Australia, or even a cattle station with a problem and for them not to look googly eyed at you is a massive plus. As much as I do love my F-Truck, as the more adventurous parts of Australia have begun to hold more appeal to me - I think my next vehicle will probably be a Landcruiser.
lots of people forget, common brands can be serviced in many places and many country towns. Many of the USA trucks don't have the dealer and parts support by comparison
I resonate with "It's okay to change your mind" I have had a bit mental change on my build recently, and it was something that I was prepared to overlook until the problem was literally prepared to punch me in the face. Because I felt so pressured to stick with my initial intention out of fear of changing, however since I have made that decision it has been one of the most liberating things I have done! Andrew, at the end of the day if you went through this entire build, and you decided it didnt work, or that it is fantastic. We would still be here to watch you learn and figure it out. Even someone with as much experience as you and who has built as many vehicles as you, still learns daily. Its a beautiful thing. Someone like me just coming into the industry who has learnt everything he knows from people like you, Ronny, Expedition Overland, etc can rest assure that in the next 30 years we will also continue to learn new things everyday, having the mental flexibility to embrace change and new ideas, is what keeps it all exciting! Either way, I am very excited to see your vision come to reality.
I'm a simple minimalist guy, not usually into over the top, but I'm fascinated by this build. So many ideas on ovffer here that can be adaptable to any kind of build. My mind is going already!!
You dont have to explain yourself to haters that cant afford this level of build. I personally see your videos as a way to see whats possible, not what I can afford and then judge you for choosing things that are too expensive for me. Thank you for opening up the possibilities.
Bravo - it’s your build to your desires and requirements!! U failed to mention - for overseas viewers - Toyota is the main commercial vehicle/brand used by commercial mining companies in Australia. In many remote areas u can get Toyota service, & spares. To have a vehicle towed is $6 to $12,000 - so a big US vehicle is not really a sensible option
Nothing is impossible. I don't want to purchase a ready made roof top tent for my 2004 4JX1 3.0 Diesel Isuzu Trooper because it wouldn't "comfortably" suit my family and I and above all, prices on the market are sky high. So, started thinking, drawing and found the best way - economic way - to build a DIY comfortable and easy to mount and use 4 persons roof top tent. It's a new 1 month old project and about to see light soon, as soon as I get everything I need. I will film and take lots of pictures and once finished and ready, will post on CZcams. The Trooper project was intended for a Morocco road trip from London right to the border of Mauritania, crossing France and Spain. But Morocco decided to leave it's border shut down due to Coronavirus crisis until the end of September. So have plenty of time now to work on my Trooper and get things right and this channel is a gold mine, playing the main role in getting my project on its wheels.
I have also taken out the back seats from my 79 double cab and installing the electrical set up in the cab. I already have the electrical set up in the canopy with roof top tent but I feel for a short trip putting the canopy on and taking it off takes a lot of time. This way fridge fits in the cab and I don’t need to worry about all the extra lights and fridge working of the main battery while canopy is off. And if need to be the fridge can also be mounted on the tray.
You are an artist, your work is excellent! You have many years experience, people's comments are important but not decision makers. Keyboard warriors will always be that, keyboard warriors. Keep up the excellent work!
The way I would solve the fridge problem is to use a good useful foldable single step ladder to access the fridge. no drop-down needed and a small single step ladder is useful for other things too. ( lightweight and handy) Plus it's a form of exercise every time you grab a coke from the fridge, yay.
It surprises me that anyone tries to question what you do. Especially inexperienced people like myself. But I really appreciate the time you take to explain everything in depth.
The RAM truck base suggestion can only come from those not familiar with your work. The axle move on the 79 was critical for all the reasons you state and well executed. @14:40 - the explanation of the concept of space, and its use. Excellent perspective and one worth having in the discernment bag. What are you thoughts on a 24v cabin system? Separate from the factory crank system, which is a 2-battery (dual) 12v. All accessories apart from the crank system run on 24V. Reason being that at 24V, you need half the current to accomplish the same work as 12V at double the current. That means the cost of the entire electrical build can be less due to working with less current - smaller wires, smaller fuses, smaller chance of catastrophic loss in the event of a failure. Current cannot be 'conjured' like voltage can. So efficient use of it is key, and 24v seems to use less of it than 12v does, imo. Would appreciate any insight you can share. Thank you. Love your channel! God bless.
For me, best aspect of your videos is the thought process - working out the details of your ideas. Life is a journey - does not mean you have to use the same ‘vehicle’ the whole way. If I camped the same way and same gear I used 30+ years ago, I would be miserable. Probably would have chucked the idea of going camping 25+ years ago. So, well done Andrew! Get the vehicle right, for you, so you can focus on your journey!
Horses for Courses. Build what suits your lifestyle and what you want. I think I was sold on the Tommy Camper when I saw you stand up in the back and showed how light and airy the bedroom was. What a wonderful place to wake up. You can also get dressed inside easily because you can stand up. Two people could sit and eat inside when it is raining. Loving the build.
I am so glad I'm not the only ones whose mind goes absolutely crazy about a vehicle build. And I am so glad you are also on the weight train. As overlanding in a Suzuki Jimny, weight becomes everything and manufactures donot push the limits here. From fridges, to draws, canopies etc. They can all be be better engineered with modern technology to be lighter and more complex without comprising strength
Your presentation is so good you have me responding to the screen like a mad man. I've said several times "I didn't even think of that." My wife said who are you face timing, Love?". Oh no one I responded. There was a silence . As if she was contemplating long term care insurance for mental incompetence. Then I said it's a 4xoverland. She responded with I understand now. Knowing a bit about overlanding but more about your presentation you saved me from a rubber room in my golden years.... Thank you Sir.
Very nice! That's what makes personal builds amazing...it's all about YOUR preference. And why do it...because you can! Can't wait to see the full build and the maiden trip. Cheers.
The joy of building a truck for your own needs is ending up with something unique to yourself that satisfies your personal requirements. There's no right answer, other than legalities, & as long as you're happy it's the correct vehicle, end of. I'm an automotive design engineer with offroad experience in Oz & have certainly commented on your videos around the camper area design up to the point you decided to go with Tommy. I'm certain it will turn out well for you as you enjoy the whole process of building vehicles, exploring options as you go so I wish you every bit of enjoyment possible with this build & the adventures you have together 👍
Hello Andrew This is just my personal opinion your choices are brilliant, the times I have watched your vehicle builds and every one has been built to your specs which is the only way I think you should build a overland vehicle, as the build has got to be done for the person that is using it, not the person who thinks well I would have done this way. I own a land rover discovery 2 TD5, and just about finished building it for trips around the UK and Europe, it has been eighteen months in the build starting from ground up but I would have purchased a Toyota 79 series if I could have done here in the UK. Any way Andrew and family stay safe and as always enjoy your build and over landing trips
I put my ARB Elements fridge in my rear seat area (seats deleted), and diverted the warm air from the compressor exhaust into the lithium battery box to never have to deal with freezing temps. 2-for-1.
4xoverland Honestly a fantastic fridge, however to be truthful I know you are being weight conscious and due to the fridge being built to withstand being outdoors 24/7, it’s built a tad heavy at 70lbs. If I was watching weight, I’d choose another.
Are freezing temperatures really a problem in the outback? I only ask as I don't know, I live in the Pennines of Yorkshire (where freezing temperatures ARE a problem, but not as much as they used to be).
@@AnthonyIlstonJones the desert areas in mid winter can be just below zero at night, but southern states ie alpine and high country are ski fields in winter
Not my cup of tea,but Andrew has his way of building things and telling his story that makes it interesting. Now he said he is 60 , and I'm getting there in a few years, my muscles started spasming when he got in and up to the camper. Wish I was 30 years younger it would be right up there in the to-buy list. Hopefully soon with the lifting of virus restrictions, he can take it for a bash.
If I understood you correctly, regarding the fridge freezer needing doors along the length of the fridge, ARB makes a dual zone 70L that IS a top loader with the doors hinged along the length. Hope that helps
I have just graduated to a 2019 Toyota Prado GXL with all the trimmings and a full off road Jurgens TuffTrax POP Top Van, because I can and chose to. I worked hard and hey, because I can. Over the top yes but who cares, it’s my choice. 👍🇦🇺
It’s your decision - You could’ve Choose an Abrams tank or a power wheel kids toy... You choose this vehicle because it made the most sense. I like watching your channel and the knowledge you share so please keep it up. Thank you for the show
Have you considered a drawer fridge? Engel do a 30 litre with the ability to mount the compressor separately. You could have two 30 litre drawer fridges mounted like a filing cabinet.
Adrew, this camper is a superb choice. Considering how important a tire is I would keep a full spare-wheel inside protected from UV and dirt. Waiting to see the build now
Andrew gets it. He understands what's important. I respect his passion, his experience and his logic. Great choice, great videos, great advice for all of us.
Those that think this is over the top need to go look at the likes of Patriot vehicle builds and adjust your parameters. ASPW builds are very reasoned.
Peter Phillips patriot builds are shit mate, all for show! Trays are light duty and canopy’s are a complete waste of space. There are so many more people out there marking proper equipment that is more suited for the applications
Patriot is almost typical for the American market. Where an "overland" trip is 100kms from home. Rigs kitted with everything AND 2 kitchen sinks. Their camper trailers are awesome but essentially all their products are for cheque book tourers
Love your videos As for the spare wheel and fridge, my measurements show that (based on my Hilux D4D): - Remove the back seat for long trips needing 2 spare wheels - Place the spare behind the driver's seat, lifting your camera goodies space by 380mm or so. - Place the fridge on the left, 90 degrees to the back door. No slider needed
Andrew I totally get what you have said and your thanking behind it, as it stands with me I've done roof tents, my children love it still but me and my wife struggle to climb up and down so a few years ago I started building Australian style camping trailers which worked very well, but like you you evolve and now I've started building an off road teardrop so we have no set up time for us, as for the future a de-mountable camper like yours will be the way I'm just not there yet, keep up the excellent work and on a foot note really enjoyed talking to you at the German overland show 👍
I get the fridge issue as i had similar with trailers and so on. In the end I tossed the back seat and integrated the fridge as part of the setup. Its on a slide and at the right height plus if I drop the trailer or just take a swag and leave the trailer the fridge goes with me. This also means the fridge is protected.
Another Option for Electrical - Inergy just released TODAY it's FLEX DC POWER STATION... Hopefully this will help simplify certain parts of my Overland build. Anyway another great video Andrew!
I must say when I first saw the camper in the last episode I thought I preferred the troopy. I thought the troopy was physically lighter, appeared far less claustrophobic, less convoluted, retains the classic lines of the original vehicle even with the custom pop top. But I'm sure given time with your infallible knowledge in this field you will be able to explain and rationalise why this vehicle setup is superior 👍🏽 I can't wait for the first overland adventure sir.
I still prefer the Troopy, but given ASPW's experience with it maybe a pop-up top like the one on his new camper would be more appropriate (and less claustrophobic). The Troop Carrier would be more appropriate for ME.
@@AnthonyIlstonJones The make or break will be whether Andrew can live with the inconvenience of not easily being able to access items that may have been left in the cab when tucked up in the camper and vice versa. I'd get bored of that pretty quickly especially in inclement weather. But if this works for Andrew more power to him, I look forward to the journey of discovery.
I like simple campers! Less to go wrong and lighter weight are their biggest advantage. In regards to your fridge issue, I had similar problem and also didn't want a drop down bracket, we solved it by carrying a litte stool, this worked perfectly for us. Also I have ditched the second spare tyre... I have never needed to use my second spare on any of our outback trips, and we're tackling much harder and more technical tracks, these days I don't believe it's necessary if you're diligent enough with tyre pressures, tyres are just so damn good these days! I just carry one good spare tyre and a tyre repair kit, tube and tyre pliers. 👍
Good on you Andrew. Why not, and you give those that can, something to aspire to. And for those that are like me who cannot get out there due to health reasons, you give us real enjoyment and we are with you virtually all the way. So congratulations and keep doing what you are doing. Cheers Peter.
I had to subscribe. Why? Am i an outdoor enthusiasts. Somewhat. But most importantly i do not like to be taken by surprise. When you speak in ur detailed explanation there is a thought process that has taken place and i learn about the current subject something new but ur explanation is not limited to the subject alone it can be applied to certain lifestyle choices in general and i find that interesting because i think, i think quite often and i have no problem being along with my thoughts. Good vid, good insight into ur specific camper needs. Thanks for sharing NJ/🇺🇸👍
I agree with Andrew and everyone on the weight issue. Like all vehicles, less weight is always better. Most people have way over the top vehicles with far too much stuff, I like how sensible and thougtful Andrew is being, although I still think it's a little over the top. Although as he's mentioned he does do filming and photography from his vehicle. I have done several trips in standard pick up trucks. My method is to pack items into Aluboxes and then strap the boxes down in the bed. Keeps everything organized and weatherproof, plus it's cheap. And when you're not away traveling you can just remove the boxes and use the truck as a normal pickup. I don't understand all the rage about trays, canopies and campers. Just seems like a load of excess cost and weight to me.
Great clip Andrew, well explained, watched heaps of your clips and learn something new every time, even after spending 45 plus years in 4wd's and in the bush, Great job.
Andrew I can't wait for you to set sail in the 79 I tell us about your experience. Funny you mention a RAM truck, I would trade you one for a 70 series any day.
Hatuey McFarland Funny how he mentioned “ Dodge” pretty funny since they haven’t made RAM trucks for over a decade. Old mate needs to get his facts straight.
Absolutely, you do what suits you. I consider your choices with you double cab build very interesting and inspired. l have a single cab 79 with a full popup roof Camper, I would have considered a chassis stretched double cab if I thought of it.
Try and ARB fridge they build them the way you need them to open Andrew. You may like to look at them. They even have the elements fridge which is up around the 70L you're looking for.
I love that you are solving these problems as you go. It’s a win, win for both manufacturer and adventurer. I live your passion and enthusiasm. Think big, dream big I say. Keep it up 👍🏻
I get what you say about an open canvas. Every camper I've ever looked at requires a comprimise of the vision you have for your excursion. The fridge is too small, the bathroom (if you have one) is designed for people under 6ft or just plain too small, It dosen't carry enough water, Its too heavy, I can't pull my boat with it if I want, theres not enough or weird storage places.etc. My number one pet peeve though is I like to have a wet bath in my camper. I know other people don't care but bathing outside in Canada can be problematic. If its not too cold its the bloody mosquitos, Anyway most camper bathrooms I've looked at have these terribly narrow doors and too much crap in them. I'm 6'6" and not a small man. I do NOT want to do gymnastics at 3am squeezing into a bathroom. Put a tiolet, a shower and MAYBE a flip down sink. Why the hell do they think we need the equiv of a home bathroom when camping? The kitchen sink is usually 4 ft or less from the bathroom so you don't really need a sink and other than keeping a couple of towels in there what the hell do I need all that cabinetry for? Differant sized towels, cleaning supplies?, robes, more clothing? I want a quick efficient place I'm not giong to spend more than 5 minutes in but has enough room that I don't fel like im trapped in a tin can. Why can't they figure that out?
Oh the joys of 4WDing is their is no right or wrong. But what suits you as the owner operator. You choose what you like and fits your needs. No two are ever the same, This is what makes this sort/hobby/life style so great. So many choices as long as they work for you that is all that matters. Great build Andrew enjoying the content and your thought process for you. I am learning a lot on the way.
I have a 1988 hj75 Troopy, dual battery system, fridge, curtains and a bed made from marine ply and 4X2 pine. It takes me to a lots of places and keeps me dry, especially in the Victorian high country. It is slow but reliable and I can get parts for it anywhere. I will upgrade someday, when funds available, but it is fit for purpose and gets me to a lot of places that the Holden Commodore wagon with a mattress in the back would not.
Andrew, thanks for explaining your reasoning behind the why your building you rig!! The only person that all the details matter to is the person that will be living in it. And the keyboard police, opinion truly doesn't matter as it's not them using it for work and pleasure. Keep up the great work your doing building your channel and giving us the ability to live through your camera lens.
Well said... To be honest I thought you already clarified these questions in other previous videos. Glad to see the build going so splendidly. No doubt there will be things changing here and there. It's to be expected. As you said.. You're experimenting.
Really looking forward to seeing what you do with the rear space in the cab. To be critical, the one thing I wasn't sure about, when you did the camper walk-around, was your little "work space". The idea of working on a fold-out table means you're going to have to pack/unpack all your kit whenever you need to work - and if you don't do that, it means all your work kit is right at the back of the camper, where it's most prone to getting bounced around. Ideally, I'd like to see somebody build an overland camper with a work space in place of the rear seats - a seat with a swivel base on one side, a small desk on the other side, a bunch of places to store things like HDDs securely etc. Do that and you separate your work area and living area, all your work stuff is in a place where you can look after it, it's readily accessible and it means there's a single place where you can always find your stuff. Considered trying to do something like that with my Disco 2 but the rear passenger floor isn't flat so there's no comfortable way to create a side-facing work space. Regarding the spare wheels, did you think about lying them flat on tray, immediately behind the cab, and then having the camper built over them? I guess that would have created a significant step in the internal space inside the canopy but it seems like it might have been possible to keep all the kitchen equipment in the lower part and then turn over the stepped area to storage and the electrical install.
Have a look at what Mulgo in Sydney did with an 80 series where they chopped the rear off & replaced with a composite body like some of the European offroad camper conversions. If I wanted a dedicated 4wd tourer with some comfort & not for tough tracks, I'd go that way on some as yet undecided vehicle as Daniel is a proper engineer who does incredible conversions 👍
G'day Andrew There's a company out of Victoria by the name of Off Road Downunder that manufacturer Australian made 4wd accessories. They happen to do a few fridge slides and they do offer an Alloy 60lt fridge slide, that may be of interest to you. Love the build mate, such insight and experience that you've to offer.
Drop down for the fridge idea. Thin wall sheet metal (with cutouts to save weight) box in which the fridge rests on a thin lightweight slide. The door is attached to a spring load cable system, as you open the door the fridge slides forward and as the door opens to 90 degrees the fridge and door continue to lower gently on tracks, all suspended by the spring load cable system. 2 or 4 spring loaded cable reels. I'm sure you know more than one clever person that will help you build it. Cheers!
"Because I want to" is one of the best reasons to do just about anything in response to those who demand that everyone "need" a "legitimate" reason to do, well, just about anything. Once one realizes this and keeps this handy little justification in their back pocket, and learns to deploy it without guilt, they become a highly liberated person indeed. Well done Andrew. By the way, I'm one of those uninteresting "Good job Andrew you're great!" people. 😀 Nevertheless, I think you've made fine decisions along the way in this build, and they all make perfect sense to my freedom-loving engineering mind.
WOW i love this camper you can stand up inside the tent area and all the other stuff it just works like you said Andrew blank canvas and set it up as you want it
What is the kind of plywood and thickness you are using for your second row seat delete Andrew? Never give up on what you really want to do. A person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all of the facts - A Einstein.
I have a front load 135 liter Isotherm. In a FWC. I know what you said, but save the headaches! Put this huge fridge ac/dc only model inside the happy so that when you open the clamshell door, it’s right there! Just pack smart and use bubble wrap for light loads and gnarly off road trails..
Would love to have a reliable company in south Africa I could count on to have chassis extension ! Understand exactly why you doing it there. The problem is most people comment are people that camp once per year and have no idea. The also fail to realize that camping is very much what fits your needs . There are sime people that buy houses with 3 bedrooms and some that buy houses with 4 bedrooms. Camping is the same .. build or buy what fits your requirements.
Hey mate, have you considered putting the fridge in the cab with you? Quieter while you sleep, accessible while driving, closer to the power source, nice and low to access. I understand you have a setup designed for the rear seat area, however perhaps some of that can occupy the canopy instead. Food for thought. Thanks again for another great vid. Cheers.
You made the right choice. Dodges are very quirky historically. Fantastic trucks to drive, but if you ask fifty American truck owners about dodges from any of the last 4 decades thirty will have had average-low owner experiences, ten will have had extremely terrible times, ten will have made it to 300,000 miles with no maintenance. Fifteen of the owners regardless of their experience will go rabid if you claim dodges are dodgy and point out that no better trucks have ever been made even if theirs is currently aflame in a parking lot.
With regards to the spare wheel location. Those large ali uprights on the front of the tray seem to take up huge amount of space for what purpose? Can you remove or rework the bars to accommodate the spare wheel there without having to slide the tomycamper backwards? That 'wasted' area between the back of the cab and the front of the Tomycamper is weight and balance gold! and at the moment those bars are just using it up!.
I agree with you Andrew. You have done this for a very long time and by this stage you and only you know what will work for you. Is your dream and why the hell not. If it means that is going over the top to achieve your dream in comfort the so be it. The rest that is negative can do it the way they want if it works for them and my personal opinion is that i think they are just a bit jealous. Keep going your way and leave the rest behind because i think it will be very impressive when done and it must suit you and make you happy.
Great explanation Andrew, we all have different needs and budgets and all want something different out of our vehicles so its great to get an explanation behind your thought process, also well done on being honest about who has provided gear for no cost, so many in your position don't and there integrity suffers because of it. Really keen to see if you come up with a solution for the fridge.
Not over the top. Perfect for you. All your decisions and logic fit your intended purpose. Apart from knowing them, the 70's are proven durability and reliability and in the abililty to get parts where you will go.
"Over the top" is a relative term and strongly related to budget, imagined constraints and personal preference. We all want to be "right" even when what is right for one person is not right for another. I'm going down a different route because what is right for you is not right for me. However, I listen intently to you because many ideas, experience and rationale still contributes to what I'm building. After all, we both want to cruise for extended periods in comfort and with the reassurance that what we rely on is rock solid for the application. For example, it never crossed my mind about track widths and punctures. Thank you Andrew for sharing your thoughts, experience and ideas, also thank you for the entertainment. Cheers.
I will keep reminding myself of this “ I choose because I can! Why limit myself? I can dream....I can dream! Why not!?” I can do this..Why the Hell Not!! - ASPW - Thank you Andrew great vid great inspiration great advise. 😊
I like the way you think Andrew. Its easy to live / work with the quality of a product or some one. The most important, can you live/ work with there flaws. And you make your choice in that matter i think.
Totally agree mate. Why the hell not indeed. I personally also can't afford that type of build, however it does give me fantastic ideas for what is possible. We all need a goal in life, something to strive for.
Andrew, Love your films... The David Attenborough of the 4wding world !! After watching yourself, Ronny Dahl & Patriot Campers, I have purchased a 105 Landcruiser to do some camping with my family... Am so excited to learn, equip, modify and get out into the outback.... So a big thank you 😊
Andrew. Looking at your space behind the front seats. Put you fridge freezer on a slide, sliding out your back door. Then you have the fridge freezer with on trips where you not taking you canopy.
Fridge. Very interesting your points. Slider and tilts are just too heavy and space wasting. Obvious would be a vertical access, but you don't like, me too most likely. Solution would be to fix position the fridge and use something so you can stand on and access from above....like a milk crate other other box. looking forward to seeing the camper on the back of the 79.
Andrew (Andrés in Spanish)
It is imposible to explain it better. All the rational on behind starts with WHAT YOU WANT TO DO instead of HOW you want to do. It is totally different to drive to “travel to a remote place and film it or do pictures” than to “drive a huge American truck plenty of electronics, not tropicalized and with immense potential failures. This is not a joke for all adventures (either 4x4 or bikes); first you should define WHAT and after you should adapt the HOW. You are teaching the first lesson of all adventurers. Thank you very much Professor.
Well said Andrew! When i bought my 79 dual cab people would say the same thing. Oh they're overpriced, oh i can't justify spending that much money on a farm truck etc. Those people just don't get it. They never will. They can't justify the price tag because they can't see where the money went. It's all underneath. The engineering. No independent suspension, no rack and pinion steering which breaks all the time in rough off road situations, no sealed bearings which are easy to re-pack and replace on the side of the road, hardly any electronics and decades of proven use in the world's harshest conditions. You're paying for that R&D, that time, that simplicity and reliability. That camper you chose is absolutely awesome, and the rear axle relocation is a great modification for your setup. It will drive beautifully on outback tracks. And remember, the longer the wheelbase, the more comfortable the ride. I'm really looking forward to seeing it in action on your first trip away! Keep it up mate!
First trip away should be to lake Eyre for all the salty yumps
It's the badge you're paying for, it can't be the vehicle. If it's simple and remained pretty much unchanged for decades how can it command such a price. People say "you're paying for the Toyota reliability" and I don't dispute that at all. But when does reliability kick in? At what age do you/can you say that reliability begins? I'd say reliability would begin at around 7 years after something was first used or after 200,000kms. If you don't keep the vehicle up to & after that point, then you may be paying for something you won't use, the reliability.
Not trying to create tension or argue, just raising a thought.
@@tengallonz I agree with you.
Take the td42 GU patrol or 105 series cruiser as an example. They've had the better part of 20+ years of private R&D behind them and we know they work and how tough they are.
We know all the short fallings of 79 series and that's just straight from factory not to mention the other issues popping up now (on top of the 70k+ price tag).
The older 105s, 80s and patrols are built to last and if you even spent half of what you spent on a 79 on those you've got the most rock solid and simplistic rig going around exactly what a 4wd should be.
@@tengallonz you're not taking into account material costs today compared to 20 to 30 years ago. Forget the engineering for a moment. How much would an 80 series or gq patrol cost brand new today built exactly the same? A lot of people don't realise how much cost cutting manufacturers take to build new vehicles. Less metal, cheaper design etc. This goes for anything you buy not just cars. The only thing that's changed on the 79 series is the engine and slightly thinner panels to meet ANCAP safety requirements. Everything else is exactly the same. Imagine how much a 40 series would cost brand new built like it was back in the day? 70 grand is not a lot of money today, it's just people are used to buying cheaper cars that last half as long. I see the failures in the workshop every day on cheaper 4 wheel drives that people consider comfortable, fuel efficient etc. In reality they're shitheaps. The shortcomings of the 70 series people talk about are actually its strengths. Narrower rear axle purposely left like that for strength in heavy loading in mining use. When I worked in the mines the patrols would rust quickly from the coal dust. Things like metal quality that no one talks about. Not to mention the 70 series was used as a military vehicle. Troop carrier. Haven't seen any patrols or 80's used in the military. I wonder why??
Jimbo Jones oh and don’t forget the top quality air filter.
Andrew bare with me on this but you are now looking at having the camper stand alone in relation to power. So what about engineering one of the rear doors into a gull wing or perhaps suicide door and by reducing the battery bank in the back seat you could put a fridge/ freezer in the back seat. Advantages- all the weight is well forward of the rear axle, the fridge will stay cooler due to the cab air conditioning, no need for a slide as it will be lower to the ground and the fridge is also part of the ute when the camper is off for day trips.
Depending on the the fridge size you may not even need to change the doors but that’s a matter of choice on your part.
Good idea. Would solve the access.
40 72 he will only answer questions if you pay him ( patreon)
Put Lamborghini hinges on the rear doors
Denis Vincent just putting an idea forward mate whether he answers or not doesn’t worry me.
@@47Rolling But then the fridge will be further away from the cooking area...
Not many "CZcamsrs" are as honest as Andrew. Such concise points in response to the commentators who don't understand the build. I must say that I'm surprised that there are so many people out there who just don't get it. In terms of drop down fridge slides, I too have considered acquiring one over the years but the weight has always put me off and will continue to do so, it's just not acceptable to take 40kg out of my vehicles GVM for a fridge slide.
It is not over the top. You are a Tinkerer, solving problems for the rest of us. Thank You.
Andrew you can never go wrong with a land cruiser I my self have 25 years of experience with toyota in EAST AFRICA TANZANIA and we have some of the harsh condition in the world. I really like your builds cause u remain practical and affordable all the best to your new project.
Simply brilliant Andrew... love watching and listening to every second of your videos. Maybe in my next life I'll be able to do the type of conversions that you are into and travel the world. I am 67 years old from Nepal and what you are doing now is my dream. I currently own a Nissan x trail t30 2004 model and do a lot of travelling within the country with my wife. All the very best and can't wait to see you in your new build out there in the bush.
"it's okay to change your mind"
In NL we say "progressive insight",
the ability to adapt to a better understanding.
It's called learning :-)
Dutch son, Nick Clegg disproved your theory.
Agree.
I'm pretty sure Andrew speaks Afrikaans so maybe you didn't have to translate 'voortschrijdend inzicht' '-)
About the second spare tyre: if you put just the tyre inside you can fill it up with, for example, recovery gear or towels etc. That way it hardly takes up any space at all!
Hi Andrew - i have been watching your programs since i was a young boy , used to video tape the shows (back in the day) and play it back ,listening to the amount of info you display in a recording. Over 30 years old now and still a fan . You do know your stuff , and some might disagree with your choices. And that is Fine ! Guys enjoy the hard work he puts in to this . Just my 2C . Durban - RSA
I see a lot of negative comments about the Ram. For my needs it's been a great fit. Plenty of power to tow my tractor, plenty of room for the dog and refrigerator, comfortable enough to drive all day and with a cap or canopy a ton of room for gear and a place to sleep. That being said imo Andrew made the right vehicle choice for his needs. The Ram is very large and heavy, not a good fit for tight trails, sand and in theory not as bullet proof as a 79 series.
I have watched all your videos and many of them several times over. There would never be a question from me of "why did you do this and not that? ( If I did it would only be to truly understand and most likely learn something." Your content is about you and your choices based on your needs. To me you are all about "why I did this" and that's how many of us are learning and why we are addicted to your content .(I am anyway) The very first video I saw I was hooked. If you think about that you gotta think why. Well, for me it's the detailed explaining of why, drawn from an abundant amount of experience. And yes, I love Land Cruisers, especially the ones we can't get in the States. Just wanna say, I greatly appreciate what you are doing along with all the time and effort you put into putting out good stuff. Good luck with the frig.
When guys see my build, they say it's way more and it's over kill. Like You, why the Hell not. I'm happy with it.
Really appreciate your content Andrew - and your honest and thoughtful opinions. Thought I would just chime in, as you mentioned the issue with track width, I've got an F250 which has traveled through a fair bit of Australia off road, and I've (touch wood) yet to have a puncture with it, despite doing the Madagan Line, quite a bit of Central Aus and Fraser island on worn out 20" All Terrains. You do have to close your eyes a bit to your paint work though with the extra width, but with the power (mine is a recent model and I've made some improvements to the engine power) and the good Automatic transmission, its a joy in sand, climbing the steepest part of Big Red with ease on its first attempt on a day where 9 vehicles in front of me (various Land Cruisers from a 200 to 79's to 80's and a 105, a Patrol wagon and Ute, and a couple of smaller dual cabs) all failed it. I also find that fuel economy I get is similar to friends that have Land Cruisers, unless you are regularly using all that power that is available (my Simpson desert figures made me blush).
That said if you aren't familiar with a vehicle like this, I'm not sure I'd recommend them in Aus, if you factor in the modifications required to a Landcruiser the cost IMO isn't that much of an issue, and you have a much nicer platform (much stouter drivetrain, transmission and engine) that is quiet, comfortable and bloody luxurious. They also hold their value as well as a Landcruiser. I've owned a couple of F250's so I'm familiar with most of the idiosyncrasies, how to easily source parts when needed, and for what I am not comfortable to work on, I've got probably the best F250 mechanic in Aus about 15mins drive from my house... but the problem being is that none of them are built originally with the build quality of a Landcruiser (not talking about the major drivetrain components, I'd actually take the Cummins, Duramax or 6.7 Powerstroke over the 1VD for longevity, its the little things like sensors, switches etc.), and if there is an issue with it, the ability to pull into the closest town in Australia, or even a cattle station with a problem and for them not to look googly eyed at you is a massive plus. As much as I do love my F-Truck, as the more adventurous parts of Australia have begun to hold more appeal to me - I think my next vehicle will probably be a Landcruiser.
lots of people forget, common brands can be serviced in many places and many country towns. Many of the USA trucks don't have the dealer and parts support by comparison
I resonate with "It's okay to change your mind" I have had a bit mental change on my build recently, and it was something that I was prepared to overlook until the problem was literally prepared to punch me in the face. Because I felt so pressured to stick with my initial intention out of fear of changing, however since I have made that decision it has been one of the most liberating things I have done! Andrew, at the end of the day if you went through this entire build, and you decided it didnt work, or that it is fantastic. We would still be here to watch you learn and figure it out. Even someone with as much experience as you and who has built as many vehicles as you, still learns daily. Its a beautiful thing. Someone like me just coming into the industry who has learnt everything he knows from people like you, Ronny, Expedition Overland, etc can rest assure that in the next 30 years we will also continue to learn new things everyday, having the mental flexibility to embrace change and new ideas, is what keeps it all exciting! Either way, I am very excited to see your vision come to reality.
I'm a simple minimalist guy, not usually into over the top, but I'm fascinated by this build. So many ideas on ovffer here that can be adaptable to any kind of build. My mind is going already!!
You dont have to explain yourself to haters that cant afford this level of build. I personally see your videos as a way to see whats possible, not what I can afford and then judge you for choosing things that are too expensive for me. Thank you for opening up the possibilities.
Bravo - it’s your build to your desires and requirements!!
U failed to mention - for overseas viewers - Toyota is the main commercial vehicle/brand used by commercial mining companies in Australia. In many remote areas u can get Toyota service, & spares. To have a vehicle towed is $6 to $12,000 - so a big US vehicle is not really a sensible option
everist22 You know 👍🏻
Nothing is impossible. I don't want to purchase a ready made roof top tent for my 2004 4JX1 3.0 Diesel Isuzu Trooper because it wouldn't "comfortably" suit my family and I and above all, prices on the market are sky high. So, started thinking, drawing and found the best way - economic way - to build a DIY comfortable and easy to mount and use 4 persons roof top tent. It's a new 1 month old project and about to see light soon, as soon as I get everything I need. I will film and take lots of pictures and once finished and ready, will post on CZcams. The Trooper project was intended for a Morocco road trip from London right to the border of Mauritania, crossing France and Spain. But Morocco decided to leave it's border shut down due to Coronavirus crisis until the end of September. So have plenty of time now to work on my Trooper and get things right and this channel is a gold mine, playing the main role in getting my project on its wheels.
I have also taken out the back seats from my 79 double cab and installing the electrical set up in the cab. I already have the electrical set up in the canopy with roof top tent but I feel for a short trip putting the canopy on and taking it off takes a lot of time. This way fridge fits in the cab and I don’t need to worry about all the extra lights and fridge working of the main battery while canopy is off.
And if need to be the fridge can also be mounted on the tray.
You are an artist, your work is excellent!
You have many years experience, people's comments are important but not decision makers.
Keyboard warriors will always be that, keyboard warriors.
Keep up the excellent work!
As long as you have been doing this, you most certainly deserve to build exactly what you want. Keep up the great work!
The way I would solve the fridge problem is to use a good useful foldable single step ladder to access the fridge. no drop-down needed and a small single step ladder is useful for other things too. ( lightweight and handy) Plus it's a form of exercise every time you grab a coke from the fridge, yay.
Stand up fridge maybe easier
@@rickfranke4886 Not energy efficient. You loose all cold air every time you open it.
It surprises me that anyone tries to question what you do. Especially inexperienced people like myself. But I really appreciate the time you take to explain everything in depth.
The RAM truck base suggestion can only come from those not familiar with your work.
The axle move on the 79 was critical for all the reasons you state and well executed.
@14:40 - the explanation of the concept of space, and its use. Excellent perspective and one worth having in the discernment bag.
What are you thoughts on a 24v cabin system? Separate from the factory crank system, which is a 2-battery (dual) 12v. All accessories apart from the crank system run on 24V. Reason being that at 24V, you need half the current to accomplish the same work as 12V at double the current. That means the cost of the entire electrical build can be less due to working with less current - smaller wires, smaller fuses, smaller chance of catastrophic loss in the event of a failure. Current cannot be 'conjured' like voltage can. So efficient use of it is key, and 24v seems to use less of it than 12v does, imo.
Would appreciate any insight you can share. Thank you. Love your channel! God bless.
For me, best aspect of your videos is the thought process - working out the details of your ideas. Life is a journey - does not mean you have to use the same ‘vehicle’ the whole way. If I camped the same way and same gear I used 30+ years ago, I would be miserable. Probably would have chucked the idea of going camping 25+ years ago. So, well done Andrew! Get the vehicle right, for you, so you can focus on your journey!
I never commented about this great vehicle so well done, Andrew. Marvelous. Thats the category I'm in.
Horses for Courses.
Build what suits your lifestyle and what you want.
I think I was sold on the Tommy Camper when I saw you stand up in the back and showed how light and airy the bedroom was. What a wonderful place to wake up.
You can also get dressed inside easily because you can stand up.
Two people could sit and eat inside when it is raining.
Loving the build.
I am so glad I'm not the only ones whose mind goes absolutely crazy about a vehicle build. And I am so glad you are also on the weight train. As overlanding in a Suzuki Jimny, weight becomes everything and manufactures donot push the limits here. From fridges, to draws, canopies etc. They can all be be better engineered with modern technology to be lighter and more complex without comprising strength
Your presentation is so good you have me responding to the screen like a mad man. I've said several times "I didn't even think of that." My wife said who are you face timing, Love?". Oh no one I responded. There was a silence . As if she was contemplating long term care insurance for mental incompetence. Then I said it's a 4xoverland. She responded with I understand now. Knowing a bit about overlanding but more about your presentation you saved me from a rubber room in my golden years.... Thank you Sir.
Very nice! That's what makes personal builds amazing...it's all about YOUR preference. And why do it...because you can! Can't wait to see the full build and the maiden trip. Cheers.
The joy of building a truck for your own needs is ending up with something unique to yourself that satisfies your personal requirements. There's no right answer, other than legalities, & as long as you're happy it's the correct vehicle, end of.
I'm an automotive design engineer with offroad experience in Oz & have certainly commented on your videos around the camper area design up to the point you decided to go with Tommy. I'm certain it will turn out well for you as you enjoy the whole process of building vehicles, exploring options as you go so I wish you every bit of enjoyment possible with this build & the adventures you have together 👍
Hello Andrew
This is just my personal opinion your choices are brilliant, the times I have watched your vehicle builds and every one has been built to your specs which is the only way I think you should build a overland vehicle, as the build has got to be done for the person that is using it, not the person who thinks well I would have done this way. I own a land rover discovery 2 TD5, and just about finished building it for trips around the UK and Europe, it has been eighteen months in the build starting from ground up but I would have purchased a Toyota 79 series if I could have done here in the UK.
Any way Andrew and family stay safe and as always enjoy your build and over landing trips
The Honesty of these videos is such breath of fresh air. Going where no other are going.
I put my ARB Elements fridge in my rear seat area (seats deleted), and diverted the warm air from the compressor exhaust into the lithium battery box to never have to deal with freezing temps. 2-for-1.
How the ARB Elements fridge? That might work well here.
4xoverland Honestly a fantastic fridge, however to be truthful I know you are being weight conscious and due to the fridge being built to withstand being outdoors 24/7, it’s built a tad heavy at 70lbs. If I was watching weight, I’d choose another.
Are freezing temperatures really a problem in the outback? I only ask as I don't know, I live in the Pennines of Yorkshire (where freezing temperatures ARE a problem, but not as much as they used to be).
@@AnthonyIlstonJones Probably not unless you go to the high country, but in the States it is was a concern for me.
@@AnthonyIlstonJones the desert areas in mid winter can be just below zero at night, but southern states ie alpine and high country are ski fields in winter
Not my cup of tea,but Andrew has his way of building things and telling his story that makes it interesting. Now he said he is 60 , and I'm getting there in a few years, my muscles started spasming when he got in and up to the camper. Wish I was 30 years younger it would be right up there in the to-buy list. Hopefully soon with the lifting of virus restrictions, he can take it for a bash.
If I understood you correctly, regarding the fridge freezer needing doors along the length of the fridge, ARB makes a dual zone 70L that IS a top loader with the doors hinged along the length. Hope that helps
I have just graduated to a 2019 Toyota Prado GXL with all the trimmings and a full off road Jurgens TuffTrax POP Top Van, because I can and chose to. I worked hard and hey, because I can. Over the top yes but who cares, it’s my choice. 👍🇦🇺
It’s your decision - You could’ve Choose an Abrams tank or a power wheel kids toy... You choose this vehicle because it made the most sense. I like watching your channel and the knowledge you share so please keep it up. Thank you for the show
Have you considered a drawer fridge? Engel do a 30 litre with the ability to mount the compressor separately. You could have two 30 litre drawer fridges mounted like a filing cabinet.
Adrew, this camper is a superb choice. Considering how important a tire is I would keep a full spare-wheel inside protected from UV and dirt. Waiting to see the build now
Andrew gets it. He understands what's important. I respect his passion, his experience and his logic. Great choice, great videos, great advice for all of us.
Those that think this is over the top need to go look at the likes of Patriot vehicle builds and adjust your parameters. ASPW builds are very reasoned.
Peter Phillips patriot builds are shit mate, all for show! Trays are light duty and canopy’s are a complete waste of space. There are so many more people out there marking proper equipment that is more suited for the applications
@@goodie1704 So many people get sucked in to their flashy Patriot Games TV show and using their gear to be tough. Its pure marketing Hype.
Patriot is almost typical for the American market. Where an "overland" trip is 100kms from home. Rigs kitted with everything AND 2 kitchen sinks. Their camper trailers are awesome but essentially all their products are for cheque book tourers
Tom Goode shoot me some names please. Thank you.
Love your videos
As for the spare wheel and fridge, my measurements show that (based on my Hilux D4D):
- Remove the back seat for long trips needing 2 spare wheels
- Place the spare behind the driver's seat, lifting your camera goodies space by 380mm or so.
- Place the fridge on the left, 90 degrees to the back door. No slider needed
Andrew I totally get what you have said and your thanking behind it, as it stands with me I've done roof tents, my children love it still but me and my wife struggle to climb up and down so a few years ago I started building Australian style camping trailers which worked very well, but like you you evolve and now I've started building an off road teardrop so we have no set up time for us, as for the future a de-mountable camper like yours will be the way I'm just not there yet, keep up the excellent work and on a foot note really enjoyed talking to you at the German overland show 👍
I get the fridge issue as i had similar with trailers and so on. In the end I tossed the back seat and integrated the fridge as part of the setup. Its on a slide and at the right height plus if I drop the trailer or just take a swag and leave the trailer the fridge goes with me. This also means the fridge is protected.
Another Option for Electrical - Inergy just released TODAY it's FLEX DC POWER STATION... Hopefully this will help simplify certain parts of my Overland build. Anyway another great video Andrew!
I must say when I first saw the camper in the last episode I thought I preferred the troopy. I thought the troopy was physically lighter, appeared far less claustrophobic, less convoluted, retains the classic lines of the original vehicle even with the custom pop top. But I'm sure given time with your infallible knowledge in this field you will be able to explain and rationalise why this vehicle setup is superior 👍🏽 I can't wait for the first overland adventure sir.
I still prefer the Troopy, but given ASPW's experience with it maybe a pop-up top like the one on his new camper would be more appropriate (and less claustrophobic). The Troop Carrier would be more appropriate for ME.
@@AnthonyIlstonJones The make or break will be whether Andrew can live with the inconvenience of not easily being able to access items that may have been left in the cab when tucked up in the camper and vice versa. I'd get bored of that pretty quickly especially in inclement weather. But if this works for Andrew more power to him, I look forward to the journey of discovery.
I like simple campers! Less to go wrong and lighter weight are their biggest advantage.
In regards to your fridge issue, I had similar problem and also didn't want a drop down bracket, we solved it by carrying a litte stool, this worked perfectly for us.
Also I have ditched the second spare tyre... I have never needed to use my second spare on any of our outback trips, and we're tackling much harder and more technical tracks, these days I don't believe it's necessary if you're diligent enough with tyre pressures, tyres are just so damn good these days!
I just carry one good spare tyre and a tyre repair kit, tube and tyre pliers. 👍
Good on you Andrew. Why not, and you give those that can, something to aspire to. And for those that are like me who cannot get out there due to health reasons, you give us real enjoyment and we are with you virtually all the way. So congratulations and keep doing what you are doing. Cheers Peter.
I am pleased you chose another Landcruiser, they are iconic to Australia.
You are a class act Andrew. Never to be underestimated.
I had to subscribe. Why? Am i an outdoor enthusiasts. Somewhat. But most importantly i do not like to be taken by surprise. When you speak in ur detailed explanation there is a thought process that has taken place and i learn about the current subject something new but ur explanation is not limited to the subject alone it can be applied to certain lifestyle choices in general and i find that interesting because i think, i think quite often and i have no problem being along with my thoughts. Good vid, good insight into ur specific camper needs. Thanks for sharing NJ/🇺🇸👍
I agree with Andrew and everyone on the weight issue. Like all vehicles, less weight is always better. Most people have way over the top vehicles with far too much stuff, I like how sensible and thougtful Andrew is being, although I still think it's a little over the top. Although as he's mentioned he does do filming and photography from his vehicle. I have done several trips in standard pick up trucks. My method is to pack items into Aluboxes and then strap the boxes down in the bed. Keeps everything organized and weatherproof, plus it's cheap. And when you're not away traveling you can just remove the boxes and use the truck as a normal pickup. I don't understand all the rage about trays, canopies and campers. Just seems like a load of excess cost and weight to me.
Great clip Andrew, well explained, watched heaps of your clips and learn something new every time, even after spending 45 plus years in 4wd's and in the bush, Great job.
thanks Gary.
Andrew I can't wait for you to set sail in the 79 I tell us about your experience. Funny you mention a RAM truck, I would trade you one for a 70 series any day.
Hatuey McFarland Funny how he mentioned “ Dodge” pretty funny since they haven’t made RAM trucks for over a decade. Old mate needs to get his facts straight.
dazza421970 WTF??? They are the same Chrysler guzzlers, they just removed the letters Dodge but still the same thing.
Hatuey McFarland I’m sure you will do it. You already know what Rams are made of.
Absolutely, you do what suits you. I consider your choices with you double cab build very interesting and inspired.
l have a single cab 79 with a full popup roof Camper, I would have considered a chassis stretched double cab if I thought of it.
Try and ARB fridge they build them the way you need them to open Andrew. You may like to look at them. They even have the elements fridge which is up around the 70L you're looking for.
I love that you are solving these problems as you go. It’s a win, win for both manufacturer and adventurer. I live your passion and enthusiasm. Think big, dream big I say. Keep it up 👍🏻
I get what you say about an open canvas. Every camper I've ever looked at requires a comprimise of the vision you have for your excursion. The fridge is too small, the bathroom (if you have one) is designed for people under 6ft or just plain too small, It dosen't carry enough water, Its too heavy, I can't pull my boat with it if I want, theres not enough or weird storage places.etc.
My number one pet peeve though is I like to have a wet bath in my camper. I know other people don't care but bathing outside in Canada can be problematic. If its not too cold its the bloody mosquitos, Anyway most camper bathrooms I've looked at have these terribly narrow doors and too much crap in them. I'm 6'6" and not a small man. I do NOT want to do gymnastics at 3am squeezing into a bathroom. Put a tiolet, a shower and MAYBE a flip down sink. Why the hell do they think we need the equiv of a home bathroom when camping? The kitchen sink is usually 4 ft or less from the bathroom so you don't really need a sink and other than keeping a couple of towels in there what the hell do I need all that cabinetry for? Differant sized towels, cleaning supplies?, robes, more clothing? I want a quick efficient place I'm not giong to spend more than 5 minutes in but has enough room that I don't fel like im trapped in a tin can. Why can't they figure that out?
Oh the joys of 4WDing is their is no right or wrong. But what suits you as the owner operator.
You choose what you like and fits your needs. No two are ever the same,
This is what makes this sort/hobby/life style so great. So many choices as long as they work for you that is all that matters. Great build Andrew enjoying the content and your thought process for you. I am learning a lot on the way.
I have a 1988 hj75 Troopy, dual battery system, fridge, curtains and a bed made from marine ply and 4X2 pine. It takes me to a lots of places and keeps me dry, especially in the Victorian high country. It is slow but reliable and I can get parts for it anywhere.
I will upgrade someday, when funds available, but it is fit for purpose and gets me to a lot of places that the Holden Commodore wagon with a mattress in the back would not.
Andrew, thanks for explaining your reasoning behind the why your building you rig!! The only person that all the details matter to is the person that will be living in it. And the keyboard police, opinion truly doesn't matter as it's not them using it for work and pleasure. Keep up the great work your doing building your channel and giving us the ability to live through your camera lens.
I like how you reason through things. I also like the point that every choice made effects future decisions. I am really excited about this build.
If the mantra is simple, why not remove those fridge rails in the canopy and pack a folding step for the fridge?
One of your best videos ever. Most valuable. Very informative and entertaining.
I own a Ram power wagon. I’m all about them. BUT, what you have said all makes sense. And I would agree with your decision.
Good on you JD Miller, your response is like a breath of fresh air, sanity prevails, cheers.
Well said... To be honest I thought you already clarified these questions in other previous videos. Glad to see the build going so splendidly. No doubt there will be things changing here and there. It's to be expected. As you said.. You're experimenting.
Really looking forward to seeing what you do with the rear space in the cab.
To be critical, the one thing I wasn't sure about, when you did the camper walk-around, was your little "work space".
The idea of working on a fold-out table means you're going to have to pack/unpack all your kit whenever you need to work - and if you don't do that, it means all your work kit is right at the back of the camper, where it's most prone to getting bounced around.
Ideally, I'd like to see somebody build an overland camper with a work space in place of the rear seats - a seat with a swivel base on one side, a small desk on the other side, a bunch of places to store things like HDDs securely etc.
Do that and you separate your work area and living area, all your work stuff is in a place where you can look after it, it's readily accessible and it means there's a single place where you can always find your stuff.
Considered trying to do something like that with my Disco 2 but the rear passenger floor isn't flat so there's no comfortable way to create a side-facing work space.
Regarding the spare wheels, did you think about lying them flat on tray, immediately behind the cab, and then having the camper built over them?
I guess that would have created a significant step in the internal space inside the canopy but it seems like it might have been possible to keep all the kitchen equipment in the lower part and then turn over the stepped area to storage and the electrical install.
I thought his work space will be one of those 2 drawers under the bed, with a false bottom that lifts up to become the work surface.
Have a look at what Mulgo in Sydney did with an 80 series where they chopped the rear off & replaced with a composite body like some of the European offroad camper conversions. If I wanted a dedicated 4wd tourer with some comfort & not for tough tracks, I'd go that way on some as yet undecided vehicle as Daniel is a proper engineer who does incredible conversions 👍
G'day Andrew
There's a company out of Victoria by the name of Off Road Downunder that manufacturer Australian made 4wd accessories. They happen to do a few fridge slides and they do offer an Alloy 60lt fridge slide, that may be of interest to you.
Love the build mate, such insight and experience that you've to offer.
Drop down for the fridge idea. Thin wall sheet metal (with cutouts to save weight) box in which the fridge rests on a thin lightweight slide. The door is attached to a spring load cable system, as you open the door the fridge slides forward and as the door opens to 90 degrees the fridge and door continue to lower gently on tracks, all suspended by the spring load cable system. 2 or 4 spring loaded cable reels. I'm sure you know more than one clever person that will help you build it. Cheers!
"Because I want to" is one of the best reasons to do just about anything in response to those who demand that everyone "need" a "legitimate" reason to do, well, just about anything. Once one realizes this and keeps this handy little justification in their back pocket, and learns to deploy it without guilt, they become a highly liberated person indeed. Well done Andrew.
By the way, I'm one of those uninteresting "Good job Andrew you're great!" people. 😀 Nevertheless, I think you've made fine decisions along the way in this build, and they all make perfect sense to my freedom-loving engineering mind.
WOW i love this camper you can stand up inside the tent area and all the other stuff it just works like you said Andrew blank canvas and set it up as you want it
What is the kind of plywood and thickness you are using for your second row seat delete Andrew? Never give up on what you really want to do. A person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all of the facts - A Einstein.
I have a front load 135 liter Isotherm. In a FWC. I know what you said, but save the headaches! Put this huge fridge ac/dc only model inside the happy so that when you open the clamshell door, it’s right there! Just pack smart and use bubble wrap for light loads and gnarly off road trails..
Would love to have a reliable company in south Africa I could count on to have chassis extension ! Understand exactly why you doing it there. The problem is most people comment are people that camp once per year and have no idea. The also fail to realize that camping is very much what fits your needs . There are sime people that buy houses with 3 bedrooms and some that buy houses with 4 bedrooms. Camping is the same .. build or buy what fits your requirements.
Loving yours films Andrew and your explanations for the decisions you make about your builds
Hey mate, have you considered putting the fridge in the cab with you?
Quieter while you sleep, accessible while driving, closer to the power source, nice and low to access.
I understand you have a setup designed for the rear seat area, however perhaps some of that can occupy the canopy instead.
Food for thought.
Thanks again for another great vid.
Cheers.
Now it makes sense.. Free Stuff. Will you reveal the Actual Total Retail Cost at Completion? It's a dream for most but I love it.
You made the right choice. Dodges are very quirky historically. Fantastic trucks to drive, but if you ask fifty American truck owners about dodges from any of the last 4 decades thirty will have had average-low owner experiences, ten will have had extremely terrible times, ten will have made it to 300,000 miles with no maintenance. Fifteen of the owners regardless of their experience will go rabid if you claim dodges are dodgy and point out that no better trucks have ever been made even if theirs is currently aflame in a parking lot.
With regards to the spare wheel location. Those large ali uprights on the front of the tray seem to take up huge amount of space for what purpose? Can you remove or rework the bars to accommodate the spare wheel there without having to slide the tomycamper backwards? That 'wasted' area between the back of the cab and the front of the Tomycamper is weight and balance gold! and at the moment those bars are just using it up!.
I agree with you Andrew. You have done this for a very long time and by this stage you and only you know what will work for you. Is your dream and why the hell not. If it means that is going over the top to achieve your dream in comfort the so be it. The rest that is negative can do it the way they want if it works for them and my personal opinion is that i think they are just a bit jealous. Keep going your way and leave the rest behind because i think it will be very impressive when done and it must suit you and make you happy.
"Over the top, and why the hell not!" Quite Right! Totally agree.
One of the most enjoyable channels on CZcams. A pleasure to watch.
I totally agree as we get older our needs change we enjoy a bit more comfort and we have the experience to know exactly what works.
Good on you Andrew! Why the hell not! It’s your money - your hard work that’s got you where you are. Keep it up. Long time fan.
Great explanation Andrew, we all have different needs and budgets and all want something different out of our vehicles so its great to get an explanation behind your thought process, also well done on being honest about who has provided gear for no cost, so many in your position don't and there integrity suffers because of it. Really keen to see if you come up with a solution for the fridge.
Not over the top. Perfect for you. All your decisions and logic fit your intended purpose. Apart from knowing them, the 70's are proven durability and reliability and in the abililty to get parts where you will go.
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I’ve that Tommy Camper, I’d buy one of those today, awesome!
"Over the top" is a relative term and strongly related to budget, imagined constraints and personal preference. We all want to be "right" even when what is right for one person is not right for another. I'm going down a different route because what is right for you is not right for me. However, I listen intently to you because many ideas, experience and rationale still contributes to what I'm building. After all, we both want to cruise for extended periods in comfort and with the reassurance that what we rely on is rock solid for the application. For example, it never crossed my mind about track widths and punctures. Thank you Andrew for sharing your thoughts, experience and ideas, also thank you for the entertainment. Cheers.
I will keep reminding myself of this “ I choose because I can! Why limit myself? I can dream....I can dream! Why not!?” I can do this..Why the Hell Not!! - ASPW - Thank you Andrew great vid great inspiration great advise. 😊
Good comment mate. FYI it's Advice, not Advise
I like the way you think Andrew. Its easy to live / work with the quality of a product or some one. The most important, can you live/ work with there flaws. And you make your choice in that matter i think.
Totally agree mate. Why the hell not indeed. I personally also can't afford that type of build, however it does give me fantastic ideas for what is possible. We all need a goal in life, something to strive for.
love your videos , looking forward to see the finished product out in the bush .
Andrew, Love your films... The David Attenborough of the 4wding world !! After watching yourself, Ronny Dahl & Patriot Campers, I have purchased a 105 Landcruiser to do some camping with my family... Am so excited to learn, equip, modify and get out into the outback.... So a big thank you 😊
Andrew. Looking at your space behind the front seats. Put you fridge freezer on a slide, sliding out your back door. Then you have the fridge freezer with on trips where you not taking you canopy.
Absolutely the Tommy Camper is my favorite! Mainly because..... my name is Tommy..
Fridge. Very interesting your points. Slider and tilts are just too heavy and space wasting. Obvious would be a vertical access, but you don't like, me too most likely. Solution would be to fix position the fridge and use something so you can stand on and access from above....like a milk crate other other box. looking forward to seeing the camper on the back of the 79.
You chose it , you built it and your happy with it , all good mate and have fun with it ! 👍😎🍺🍺
I hope it meets all your explanations and you enjoy it Andrew. Its great work.
Your a gas man.😀