Brother, your video is awesome. The first K130 I got was great in the first hover flight in my garage. Second day I crashed twice, second crash needed a total rebuild. Then after that rebuild, I piled drived it from 3 feet up....BOOM. Then, I watched many videos, but yours was the most help.... I ended up getting a second one and followed your settings: perfect for a beginner. The rebuilt one was slightly more aggressive, and it worked!!! Many thanks and much love to you and your very awesome wife!
AWESOME Eric! Glad you found some useful things in there. I don't fancy myself a Heli aficionado, and most of the guys flying heli's have LONG since forgotten how hard it can be to fly them. I have special needs, as a non-heli-expert, so I want to share what I do to get the small handicap I need. We have SAFE on the BNF planes we review, but I almost never use it anymore...but with helis, I need every bit of help I can get.
Please never say that you are explaining too much (45;55). You can never explain too much. I have been searching for a video on the setup of the K130. Lots of videos showing flying and unboxing (not much help) but not setup, especially for a novice pilot. Your videos are so in depth and you never miss a detail that other people would just skip over. And you even go on to show how to fix it. Exceptional videos. Your videos can never be too long or have too much information, and they are also entertaining (your little innuendo's) . Great job to you and your wife. By the way do you know how lucky you are to have a wife that shares your hobby with you and appears to really enjoy helping you? Thank You Brian's wife (sorry I don't know your name) Merry Christmas to you and yours. Stay warm and safe. Again you two make a great pair. Love your vids!!!!
So glad to hear you say this. We get trouble from some for making exceedingly long videos, but we KNOW that so many just need some help getting their feet wet! It's like some of these manufacturers just assume everyone knows everything about these surprisingly complex systems with almost no "ENGLISH" explanation - LOL ;) I'm very blessed to have such a supportive and helpful wife (Megan AKA the camera crew - an inside joke about how we obviously only have one person), and she is increasingly pivotal in the success of our channel! P.S. What is T & B IOWA stand for? We're in central Iowa, as you may have heard.
Parts for XK Helis all have to be ordered online. If I wreck one of my blade helis or Align helis I can hit up a local hobby shop for replacement parts and get back in the air faster. If you really want a great helicopter get a used Blade 180 CFX, you can get them for about $100 bucks BNF and they fly like a much larger heli. Lots of fun. Very stable in the air but no safe or training mode so you gotta fly it the whole time. I fly my little 180CFX more than I do my 360 and my 3 500 size helis.
Every (most) modern tail gyro has two settings rate and heading lock. Rate will keep your tail locked on the ground and then require constant attention while in flight. Heading lock or just lock gyro will give you a ground spin on spin up as it requires a moving direction to lock to but a simple counter rudder input ends that. Heading lock is the best setting and what most if not all ready to fly RC helis gyros are set to as they are easier to fly for new pilots as the tail stays locked behind the nose. When it comes to crashes main gears, landing gear, tail booms, main shafts and feather spindles are the parts that get destroyed the most. No glueing will save your in the heli hobby. Also for wrenching on these micro helis you may want to invest in small magnets or magnetic screwdrivers and Allen drivers. Put a small magnet on your screw driver or needle nose pliers and you’ll never lose another metal bit again.
Brian Phillips well once you can master flying around level right side up with 6G hand holding turned off you’ll be ready to start practicing hovering inverted and doing inverted orientations in a hover with one side pointed at you such as hovering the heli with the left side facing you for a full battery and then the right side and then the tail and then the nose on. After you master doing orientations right side up so it’s second hand you can move on to circuit flying like doing figure eights. Then you start doing inverted hovering orientations the same way and then once mastered moving on to inverted figure eights. This can take months and a good simulator is vital.
There’s no suspense like ‘Brian is flying helicopters in the house again’ suspense. Love your technical / repair vids. Anyway, I know you have a TON of free time ;-) so maybe one day you would consider doing an expo / mixing tutorial... I mean besides the quick one you do in nearly every new plane video. Seriously, nobody on CZcams explains transmitter setups the way you do. Thanks again, you two.
I'm so glad you feel my plight - it is REAL! ;) LOL As for the detailed overview on Expo and Mixing...I feel like I'm already really "riding the line" with my explanations, OR possibly jumping the fence and running half way down the street... It's tough since I don't really "know" what audience will be watching. Will it be the "new" rc pilot or the experienced rc pilot, thus the challenge is keeping an audience while I explain things they might already know or not have a clue - this is tough. As for helping YOU with your questions, can you ask a specific one, and I can try to address it here? I know it's always helpful to have a better general understanding of these things in order to apply these to your overall RC experience, which is why I push so hard to share loads of details in my videos, but I know you must have a specific question or three. I want to help. P.S. When you ask, ask a "new" comment...CZcams kinda buries reply chains anymore (which is SOOOOO annoying!) making it hard to tell when I get a reply to a reply, unless I stumble onto it.
So the k130 was my first RC helicopter after watching reviews and seeing that it was great of course I didn't find this video until after I crashed it. Of course they didn't calibrate the gyros right, this has been the best video I found on the k130 very informative and truly appreciated. Will be back flying after I replace two servos. Your very knowledgeable and it would be great if you can put out more instructional videos especially for us beginners.
Thanks Eric! We try, but with details comes long videos...which is a double edged sward. Some hate it, but I try to make time stamps on the REALLY long ones ;)
Brian keep flying your helicopters, as you fly more and more you'll get more and more confident. It is a great feeling mastering the helicopter. They are a lot of fun and rewarding. Anyone can fly a plane but helicopters take patience and a lot of practice and learning. Good luck and before you know it you'll be bit by the helicopter bug.
thank you thank you THANK YOU. This is EXACTLY the info I have been looking for. I can't wait to try these techniques out to make flying in acro mode so much easier to learn. That gyro calibration stuff is essentially automatic trimming. I should not have to use manual trim with that feature.
Brian; There is a new large heli coming out with GPS, just like my DJI Mavic Air 2 drone. Can fly it manually, has gyro I think, and GPS!. I just sent you a private message on your Facebook page with the model & description and a link to this new heli and can see a couple amazing video's showing all that it does. Can hardly wait until I get one. Was waiting for a Blade 330s RTF to come back in stock, but now I want this new one with GPS feature, can relax and enjoying flying it. While practicing heli flight, get mixed up, maybe crash into something with heli with gyro, but with GPS lock heli, get mixed up or disorientated, just let go of Tx sticks and stops dead and hovers in one place just like my DJI Mavic Air 2, also has, well I put that all in my FB message to you, hope you see it and get as excited as me, and hope your get one a do another great video on it! Always love your RC video's, and wanted to help you with info about this new heli with GPS.
There's been a few out over the years, but I haven't been a huge believer in GPS for flight controls of RC, but I know it's a thing, I'm just not a fan of it....notwithstanding a strictly filming drone, but I suppose it would be very cool on a heli too, if it were actually going to work, and not try to lop my head off ;)
GA Good review, Brian. This one has to be my next one & only because a new k120 bnf showed up @ the door. XK brand is top notch ,@ an affordable price. 👍
Yeah. this is a cool aircraft, and I know I don't do all the crazy tricks, but think how much better this heli is than the Blade CP One that I had 10-ish years ago...not even in the same class!!!
Yes brian that was a very difficult heli to get off the ground still have my blade cp and dont forget the honeybee king 2 which i also fly now and then but really great video of the review of xk130 👍
Hello Brian I have the same heli make sure you buy more main gears they are easily strip when you crash , I thank you for the information that you gave it helps so i'll set mind the same so it will fly better , i don't fly heli as much
Awesome! I blew out the servos ;( BUT, lucky for me, I have hundreds and hundreds of "donors" willing to give up their lives to save whatever I'm flying today ;) LOL
S means series, P is parallel, which is how the cells are wired. Cells in series increase voltage, cells in parallel increase current. So a 2S2P battery would have 4 cells - 7.4 volts total, and if the cells are, for example 200mah each, total current (amps) would be 400mah, which would be its 1C value. Multiples of C are what the battery can produce for short spurts (this isn't necessarily reality, some companies exaggerate the C value) 1C also is a safe rate of charging the battery - check the information included with the battery. Hope that helps.
I'm assuming I can use the XK K123 transmitter for this copter. Or do I have to buy the whole set? I would have to add a new model to the radio. Also thankyou for the info on pitch curve. I can hover the K123 like a drone and move it around, but I'm learning.
I think the Tx is interchangeable, but you'll have to press the bind button on the Rx PCB....possibly each time you go back and forth. This is speaking to the ones that I have, sometimes XK or WLToys or whatever brand is offering the item, will sometimes change up their package offerings from time to time.
Brian after watching your video a few times i had won its flying like dream thanx once again was the calibration of the gyro done it twice and was sorted
Hi Brian great little helicopter the quality of these micro helis just keeps getting better thank you both For the video..nice try on the new sofa camera crew 😂best wishes Chris
LOL - I know , I should have just taken that thing out!!! This heli is just so strong, I was genuinely nervous about hitting stuff, something I'm not typically concerned about when I fly inside the house.
You gotta fly that disk off the ground so even while it’s on the ground you gotta keep the disk level. I’ve got several helis that you have to fly the heli from spin up to hover. It’s easy.
I was thinking I might be fighting the ground effect a bit, but then after (repeatedly) re calibrating the gyros, I realized she'll calm down quite a bit.
Brian Phillips my little Blade 230S has to be flown off the ground as the gyro for no good reason has a notorious tilt to the left on spin up so you have to control it on the ground. I’m so used to it I don’t notice it anymore but yeah. I’m glad you were able to get rid of it on your bird.
Try even higher expos. For rate 1 have set to 15%, rate 2 at 25% and rate 3 set it to something like 45-50%. For your throttle curve leave it factory settings as some helis just won’t fly until 60% or higher throttle with any amount of pitch depending on the motor esc set up with these micro helis.
I considered this, but I get so freaked out by the speed of the main rotor (out of idle up mode)....BUT you're right that the factory setting might be better left default
Brian Phillips ha! Try 425mm rotor blades spinning at 100% throttle in idle up mode. It’s a lot of fun. Expo is your friend, gives your inputs a little mushy feel so your heli flies smoother. 50% expo with helis is not unheard of in RC heli hobby.
Brian Phillips you don’t have to fly in idle up, you can enjoy flying in 6G mode. Idle up just gives you the ability to fly inverted, at least that’s what it means these days in the days of Flybarless controllers. You can reduce your throttle speed but set your pitch curve so in normal mode you have more pitch closer to the bottom of the stick in Normal mode and closer to center stick in 3D Mode (idle up). A good way to learn is through experimentation. First take pictures of your throttle and pitch curves and then mess around. The K130 will lose a lot of its twitchiness by lowering the throttle aka head speed, increasing pitch and increasing exponential rates so your stick inputs will be softer. If you don’t have more pitch early on you’ll run out of stick quick before you can get airborne.
Brian Phillips so a good start might be to set your N1 Throttle curve to 1=0% 2=20% 3=60% 4=60% 5=60% and the. For N1 pitch curve let’s go with 1=50% 2=65% 3=75% 4=90% 5=100% THE percentages equal the percent of positive pitch from full negative pitch so in normal mode you start at 50% meaning you are at zero degrees pitch and 60% is 10% mor positive pitch and 100% is full positive pitch. Just play with the numbers and see how low you can get the head speed down by using lower throttle curve percentages.. the lower the head speed the easier it will be to fly.
When I fly my copters here in Tucson altitude 2400 feet they fly fine but at the cabin at 7000feet they only fly about two feet off the ground. Density altitude.
i wish i would have seen your channel and reviews because i would have bought this instead of the xk124. as my first heli. just ordered one of these but not the kit
Thanks Drew. I hope you'll check in often. We do a LOT of reviews. They're long, but you'll be making a very informed decision...even if you come to a different conclusion than I.
Hi Brian - What’s your Go-to All-purpose thicker gap-filling type of Adhesive? I am glueing plastic and wood to EPO foam. I think in the past I have heard you mention Musslage - is that still what you like to use - or!? Thanks! Eric
Mucilage is great for foam to foam, but if you're doing unlike materials, I'd seriously consider epoxy, if you can tolerate the weight, and time...if not, I'd go for BSI CA that's either foam safe or not, depending on my needs and what happens to be dried up at the timer ;)
There should be a way to put your flybarless unit into servo centering mode that electrically centers your servos and turns off the gyro functionality. When working on servos like this you need to use the servo centering mode.
Brian Phillips there may not be a way. I did a check in helifreak and found a little info about the X6 that can help with the K130 when it comes to some of the calibrations and curves. www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=788189
Did you like this heli? I ended up actually shortening the tail boom cause it crashed ,like I think they all did on people . I really like the heli now .when I took a inch off the boom and put it all back together ,I descovered it flew way better with a shorter tail ..so maybee all those stretch ideas wasn't so great after all ....if you look at pro high dollar helicopters like sab ,there main blades almost touch the gyro blade . I don't know if that's it or not
I was scared of it...but it's a nice heli! As for shortening the boom - that's crazy that it was BETTER - I assumed the motor would have to work a lot harder...but might look cool too!
On the upside you can buy these cheep servos in a 6 pack for around 5$. Might be good to include when you order it because of the long wait time from China. You could also buy a full pack with metal gears fairly cheap. The servos wont break but the connectors will if you have a bad crash. The great thing with these tiny helicopters is that you can usually crash them with no damage at all if you cut power before it hits the ground and your flying over a softer flat surface like grass. With a "regular sized" RC helicopter you can destroy basically the entire helicopter from just flipping over in a strong wind gust when taking off. Also mastering your stunts in a simulator before usually helps out allot. 😎
Banggood sell the upgraded metal-gear servos - not much more expensive than the plastic ones. Compulsory upgrade i think - have just ordered 3 after a fairly minor crash.. Nice heli tho :)
Howsit Brian im having trouble with my xk130 im from South Africa had crashed it and the horizontal shaft had bent but main shaft still ok the only problem i have is that when a take off the left servo intends to move down before moving up please could you explain in regards to that thanx
And changed servos around but still the same only on the left which doesnt make any sense and had calibrated it but still no luck getting frustrated with it had bought the gear kits and put them in properly with alignment but still no go please help🙈
So you move the right stick (mode 2) and the blades tip as expected? You can test this without any throttle. Did you possibly reverse the channel, by accident?
Possibly. Does the tail motor spin when you d/c the main brushless motor and throttle up? You can test this a number of ways, but be super careful. I don't want you to cut yourself up!!!
Hi! Do you have any idea if xk k130 transmitter is the same transmitter that comes with xk k110, 120, 123, 124? Will it bind to the other xk helis? Thank you!
I think it is, and I think you can, but you have to press the button on the front of the Rx. Pull the front off the heli, and look for the button, then you can bind it really easily.
Have you tried to re calibrate the gyro? I'd start there. I did it about 10 times before I had the guts to take off in the kitchen. Then I proceeded to crash almost immediately - LOL :)
Thank you Reginal Pradia... This is what you were talking about, right... Replacement Metal Gear Servos - usa.banggood.com/custlink/mKGDzHbISu - They look nice!
@@BrianPhillipsRC yes both the gear and the servos after a crash and the landing isn't very good don't hold them while running up the main motor i got hit by the blades wasn't good on the knuckles , the landing gear came off .
I fully concur, metal gear upgrade sets are the best upgrades for plastic gear servos. Important to use a good greese on the metal gears or you will suffer a seized servo and thats no good at all. I'd rather replace plastic rotor pitch arms than tear into a servo even though metal gears die as well.
On a RTF there isn't that much to setup, but if you wish, we have explained MORE about some of these heli's on the BNF styles. Have you watched one of them? Might help answer some of your questions.
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Hi Brian, I've recently bought an K130 and I would like to bind it with my Frsky X-lite pro. Is it possible? if so, what protocol shall I use? thank you
Don't think you can, since this heli is Futaba FHSS compatible, BUT there seems to be a Satellite input, you might be able to use one of your choice....but totally a guess on my part. Sorry, I'm not super familiar with Fr Sky.
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Brother, your video is awesome. The first K130 I got was great in the first hover flight in my garage. Second day I crashed twice, second crash needed a total rebuild. Then after that rebuild, I piled drived it from 3 feet up....BOOM. Then, I watched many videos, but yours was the most help....
I ended up getting a second one and followed your settings: perfect for a beginner. The rebuilt one was slightly more aggressive, and it worked!!! Many thanks and much love to you and your very awesome wife!
AWESOME Eric! Glad you found some useful things in there. I don't fancy myself a Heli aficionado, and most of the guys flying heli's have LONG since forgotten how hard it can be to fly them. I have special needs, as a non-heli-expert, so I want to share what I do to get the small handicap I need. We have SAFE on the BNF planes we review, but I almost never use it anymore...but with helis, I need every bit of help I can get.
Please never say that you are explaining too much (45;55). You can never explain too much. I have been searching for a video on the setup of the K130. Lots of videos showing flying and unboxing (not much help) but not setup, especially for a novice pilot. Your videos are so in depth and you never miss a detail that other people would just skip over. And you even go on to show how to fix it. Exceptional videos. Your videos can never be too long or have too much information, and they are also entertaining (your little innuendo's) . Great job to you and your wife. By the way do you know how lucky you are to have a wife that shares your hobby with you and appears to really enjoy helping you? Thank You Brian's wife (sorry I don't know your name) Merry Christmas to you and yours. Stay warm and safe. Again you two make a great pair. Love your vids!!!!
So glad to hear you say this. We get trouble from some for making exceedingly long videos, but we KNOW that so many just need some help getting their feet wet! It's like some of these manufacturers just assume everyone knows everything about these surprisingly complex systems with almost no "ENGLISH" explanation - LOL ;)
I'm very blessed to have such a supportive and helpful wife (Megan AKA the camera crew - an inside joke about how we obviously only have one person), and she is increasingly pivotal in the success of our channel!
P.S. What is T & B IOWA stand for? We're in central Iowa, as you may have heard.
You have a very patient wife!! That vid was LOTS of help thanks alot :)
Great! Thanks Scott!
Parts for XK Helis all have to be ordered online. If I wreck one of my blade helis or Align helis I can hit up a local hobby shop for replacement parts and get back in the air faster.
If you really want a great helicopter get a used Blade 180 CFX, you can get them for about $100 bucks BNF and they fly like a much larger heli. Lots of fun. Very stable in the air but no safe or training mode so you gotta fly it the whole time. I fly my little 180CFX more than I do my 360 and my 3 500 size helis.
I trust you're a better Heli pilot than I :)
I ordered one and waited a month for parts and broke something else in 10 minutes. I did the crush dance on that bitch!
Every (most) modern tail gyro has two settings rate and heading lock. Rate will keep your tail locked on the ground and then require constant attention while in flight. Heading lock or just lock gyro will give you a ground spin on spin up as it requires a moving direction to lock to but a simple counter rudder input ends that. Heading lock is the best setting and what most if not all ready to fly RC helis gyros are set to as they are easier to fly for new pilots as the tail stays locked behind the nose.
When it comes to crashes main gears, landing gear, tail booms, main shafts and feather spindles are the parts that get destroyed the most. No glueing will save your in the heli hobby.
Also for wrenching on these micro helis you may want to invest in small magnets or magnetic screwdrivers and Allen drivers. Put a small magnet on your screw driver or needle nose pliers and you’ll never lose another metal bit again.
Yeah, I used to have to CA everything together on my old Blade CP One, but thank God, XK has used screws and clamps for stuff on this little beauty!
Brian Phillips well once you can master flying around level right side up with 6G hand holding turned off you’ll be ready to start practicing hovering inverted and doing inverted orientations in a hover with one side pointed at you such as hovering the heli with the left side facing you for a full battery and then the right side and then the tail and then the nose on. After you master doing orientations right side up so it’s second hand you can move on to circuit flying like doing figure eights. Then you start doing inverted hovering orientations the same way and then once mastered moving on to inverted figure eights. This can take months and a good simulator is vital.
it took a moment to stop laughing after I heard you and your can of crew talk about the packaging of helicopter..........now Brian that was funny!
Glad you enjoyed it Michael - Thanks!
Good morning Brian,
with your help i managed to setup my xk k130 thanks a lot !!!
Fantastic! Thanks! I hope you didn't have to crash yours ;)
There’s no suspense like ‘Brian is flying helicopters in the house again’ suspense. Love your technical / repair vids. Anyway, I know you have a TON of free time ;-) so maybe one day you would consider doing an expo / mixing tutorial... I mean besides the quick one you do in nearly every new plane video. Seriously, nobody on CZcams explains transmitter setups the way you do. Thanks again, you two.
I'm so glad you feel my plight - it is REAL! ;) LOL
As for the detailed overview on Expo and Mixing...I feel like I'm already really "riding the line" with my explanations, OR possibly jumping the fence and running half way down the street... It's tough since I don't really "know" what audience will be watching. Will it be the "new" rc pilot or the experienced rc pilot, thus the challenge is keeping an audience while I explain things they might already know or not have a clue - this is tough.
As for helping YOU with your questions, can you ask a specific one, and I can try to address it here? I know it's always helpful to have a better general understanding of these things in order to apply these to your overall RC experience, which is why I push so hard to share loads of details in my videos, but I know you must have a specific question or three. I want to help.
P.S. When you ask, ask a "new" comment...CZcams kinda buries reply chains anymore (which is SOOOOO annoying!) making it hard to tell when I get a reply to a reply, unless I stumble onto it.
So the k130 was my first RC helicopter after watching reviews and seeing that it was great of course I didn't find this video until after I crashed it. Of course they didn't calibrate the gyros right, this has been the best video I found on the k130 very informative and truly appreciated. Will be back flying after I replace two servos. Your very knowledgeable and it would be great if you can put out more instructional videos especially for us beginners.
Thanks Eric! We try, but with details comes long videos...which is a double edged sward. Some hate it, but I try to make time stamps on the REALLY long ones ;)
Thank you guys, stay safe.
Thanks; You too G Bro!
Thanks for a thorough review
Thank you Terry! (Deleted a duplicate comment - not sure why this happens from time to time - I think it's a google issue)
Brian keep flying your helicopters, as you fly more and more you'll get more and more confident. It is a great feeling mastering the helicopter. They are a lot of fun and rewarding. Anyone can fly a plane but helicopters take patience and a lot of practice and learning. Good luck and before you know it you'll be bit by the helicopter bug.
I have a buddy who flips them around like rag dolls, - beautiful, but it scares the crap out of me!!!
Brian Phillips by the way no body is born with mad heli flying skills, they are all learned and you can too.
I agree helicopters are more mind blowing alot of concentration very rewarding 👍
thank you thank you THANK YOU. This is EXACTLY the info I have been looking for. I can't wait to try these techniques out to make flying in acro mode so much easier to learn. That gyro calibration stuff is essentially automatic trimming. I should not have to use manual trim with that feature.
Glad it was helpful! I'm still learning so much in the heli arena, so glad we could be of some assistance!
Brian; There is a new large heli coming out with GPS, just like my DJI Mavic Air 2 drone. Can fly it manually, has gyro I think, and GPS!. I just sent you a private message on your Facebook page with the model & description and a link to this new heli and can see a couple amazing video's showing all that it does. Can hardly wait until I get one. Was waiting for a Blade 330s RTF to come back in stock, but now I want this new one with GPS feature, can relax and enjoying flying it. While practicing heli flight, get mixed up, maybe crash into something with heli with gyro, but with GPS lock heli, get mixed up or disorientated, just let go of Tx sticks and stops dead and hovers in one place just like my DJI Mavic Air 2, also has, well I put that all in my FB message to you, hope you see it and get as excited as me, and hope your get one a do another great video on it! Always love your RC video's, and wanted to help you with info about this new heli with GPS.
There's been a few out over the years, but I haven't been a huge believer in GPS for flight controls of RC, but I know it's a thing, I'm just not a fan of it....notwithstanding a strictly filming drone, but I suppose it would be very cool on a heli too, if it were actually going to work, and not try to lop my head off ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC With the GPS heli, can also put it in free fly mode like any other heli with just a gyro.
nice to see the "pain" of setting up a heli is universal, and not just my inexperience! This should be required viewing to new heli owners!
I don't like when you see a review, and they leave out all the difficult, or annoying parts - unfortunately, that means I DO share all that stuff ;)
Well done Brian and Megan.
Thanks ;)
GA Good review, Brian. This one has to be my next one & only because a new k120 bnf showed up @ the door. XK brand is top notch ,@ an affordable price. 👍
Totally agree! I just wish I could have done a better flight for you all...BUT, what a heli!
I Got 2-Horizon 120S BNF Helis For About $20 Each... Now I Got Some Extra Parts Also! I Haven't Messed With Nor Flown Them Yet... LOL
John, get them out and fly them!!!
Great unbox, fly and repair video! Not really into helicopters yet but that may change!
Yeah. this is a cool aircraft, and I know I don't do all the crazy tricks, but think how much better this heli is than the Blade CP One that I had 10-ish years ago...not even in the same class!!!
Yes brian that was a very difficult heli to get off the ground still have my blade cp and dont forget the honeybee king 2 which i also fly now and then but really great video of the review of xk130 👍
Hello Brian I have the same heli make sure you buy more main gears they are easily strip when you crash , I thank you for the information that you gave it helps so i'll set mind the same so it will fly better , i don't fly heli as much
Yeah, me too...I can do it, but not super confident, and flying airplanes is just enough different that I make so many more mistakes.
Boy you guys sure have a nice home.
Thanks Tim! We worked really hard to put this place together, and will be working very hard for at least another 20-30 years :)
yes they are durable! i crashed mine from 50 feet up and all that was broken was the left half of the landing gear
Awesome! I blew out the servos ;( BUT, lucky for me, I have hundreds and hundreds of "donors" willing to give up their lives to save whatever I'm flying today ;) LOL
nice little helicopter :)
It's better than I deserve ;)
At least you know your limits and admit it good job Brian.
My limits become somewhat evident sometimes - LOL ;)
Got mine today the k123 and the servos are wrong lol when I go forward pitch it banks left and same with opposing sides gotta love it
That's annoying! Have you figured out how to swap leads from the servos to make it work right?
Brian Phillips yea did it today it’s surprisingly a good flying Heli
S means series, P is parallel, which is how the cells are wired. Cells in series increase voltage, cells in parallel increase current. So a 2S2P battery would have 4 cells - 7.4 volts total, and if the cells are, for example 200mah each, total current (amps) would be 400mah, which would be its 1C value. Multiples of C are what the battery can produce for short spurts (this isn't necessarily reality, some companies exaggerate the C value) 1C also is a safe rate of charging the battery - check the information included with the battery. Hope that helps.
Margot, were you answering a question?
I'm assuming I can use the XK K123 transmitter for this copter. Or do I have to buy the whole set? I would have to add a new model to the radio. Also thankyou for the info on pitch curve. I can hover the K123 like a drone and move it around, but I'm learning.
I think the Tx is interchangeable, but you'll have to press the bind button on the Rx PCB....possibly each time you go back and forth. This is speaking to the ones that I have, sometimes XK or WLToys or whatever brand is offering the item, will sometimes change up their package offerings from time to time.
Brian after watching your video a few times i had won its flying like dream thanx once again was the calibration of the gyro done it twice and was sorted
I've done it like 20 times, if this makes you feel better :)
Hi Brian great little helicopter the quality of these micro helis just keeps getting better thank you both
For the video..nice try on the new sofa camera crew 😂best wishes Chris
LOL - I know , I should have just taken that thing out!!!
This heli is just so strong, I was genuinely nervous about hitting stuff, something I'm not typically concerned about when I fly inside the house.
You gotta fly that disk off the ground so even while it’s on the ground you gotta keep the disk level. I’ve got several helis that you have to fly the heli from spin up to hover. It’s easy.
I was thinking I might be fighting the ground effect a bit, but then after (repeatedly) re calibrating the gyros, I realized she'll calm down quite a bit.
Brian Phillips my little Blade 230S has to be flown off the ground as the gyro for no good reason has a notorious tilt to the left on spin up so you have to control it on the ground. I’m so used to it I don’t notice it anymore but yeah. I’m glad you were able to get rid of it on your bird.
Lmao you know you have talked to long when you confuse your self 😂 long video but informative 👍 keep up the great videos
LOL
Great video nice helicopter.Bad Chicken 🐓 lol
LOL - Very nice Mike!
Try even higher expos. For rate 1 have set to 15%, rate 2 at 25% and rate 3 set it to something like 45-50%. For your throttle curve leave it factory settings as some helis just won’t fly until 60% or higher throttle with any amount of pitch depending on the motor esc set up with these micro helis.
I considered this, but I get so freaked out by the speed of the main rotor (out of idle up mode)....BUT you're right that the factory setting might be better left default
Brian Phillips ha! Try 425mm rotor blades spinning at 100% throttle in idle up mode. It’s a lot of fun. Expo is your friend, gives your inputs a little mushy feel so your heli flies smoother. 50% expo with helis is not unheard of in RC heli hobby.
Idle up mode makes me nervous, but I know it's better for the flight performance.
Brian Phillips you don’t have to fly in idle up, you can enjoy flying in 6G mode. Idle up just gives you the ability to fly inverted, at least that’s what it means these days in the days of Flybarless controllers. You can reduce your throttle speed but set your pitch curve so in normal mode you have more pitch closer to the bottom of the stick in Normal mode and closer to center stick in 3D Mode (idle up). A good way to learn is through experimentation. First take pictures of your throttle and pitch curves and then mess around. The K130 will lose a lot of its twitchiness by lowering the throttle aka head speed, increasing pitch and increasing exponential rates so your stick inputs will be softer. If you don’t have more pitch early on you’ll run out of stick quick before you can get airborne.
Brian Phillips so a good start might be to set your N1 Throttle curve to 1=0% 2=20% 3=60% 4=60% 5=60% and the. For N1 pitch curve let’s go with 1=50% 2=65% 3=75% 4=90% 5=100% THE percentages equal the percent of positive pitch from full negative pitch so in normal mode you start at 50% meaning you are at zero degrees pitch and 60% is 10% mor positive pitch and 100% is full positive pitch. Just play with the numbers and see how low you can get the head speed down by using lower throttle curve percentages.. the lower the head speed the easier it will be to fly.
When I fly my copters here in Tucson altitude 2400 feet they fly fine but at the cabin at 7000feet they only fly about two feet off the ground. Density altitude.
Really! That's crazy! Can you change the pitch setting and get some more altitude?
@@BrianPhillipsRC aa
i wish i would have seen your channel and reviews because i would have bought this instead of the xk124. as my first heli. just ordered one of these but not the kit
Thanks Drew. I hope you'll check in often. We do a LOT of reviews. They're long, but you'll be making a very informed decision...even if you come to a different conclusion than I.
Xk 127 is thé best but very simple
very cool
Do you know what’s really funny, some people make $150 in five minutes - you gonna lose it by crashing the sucker.
I'm not sure what you're saying. $1,800/hr would be pretty good pay ;)
and
I DID crash this heli?
Can you clarify? What's you point?
I still have trouble flying my Blade CX from about five years ago.
Does it have any gyros?
@@BrianPhillipsRC Nope they were not popular then. Gyros are relatively new in the models.
Gyros Went In Them On S-Models...
Brian Phillips
Good morning, can you explain to me why pulling the sticks down and on the sides after the set up?
To calibrate the gyro.
@@BrianPhillipsRC OK Thank´s . can I do this for the K123 and K124 ??
i have the same problems of the k130 gear already repair it but still have the sound can you let’s me know what that the happen
Sounds like you didn't get the gears fixed????
Hi, just wanted to confirm that the Futaba protocol the expo is positive or negative expo, please advise.
Thank you in advance!
Hi Brian had factory reset my control as well so not sure 🙈wish i could send a video to show you what its doing
Just upload a video and post the link...you have a CZcams account ;) Make it short and it will be a quick project,.
Hi Brian - What’s your Go-to All-purpose thicker gap-filling type of Adhesive? I am glueing plastic and wood to EPO foam. I think in the past I have heard you mention Musslage - is that still what you like to use - or!? Thanks! Eric
Mucilage is great for foam to foam, but if you're doing unlike materials, I'd seriously consider epoxy, if you can tolerate the weight, and time...if not, I'd go for BSI CA that's either foam safe or not, depending on my needs and what happens to be dried up at the timer ;)
Should i get this as my first heli?
No, I wouldn't recommend it... there's easier and less powerful. BUT if you want too, you could.
There should be a way to put your flybarless unit into servo centering mode that electrically centers your servos and turns off the gyro functionality. When working on servos like this you need to use the servo centering mode.
I think if you turn off 6G mode, then they're centered while laying flat, with Gyro Calibrated...or am I missing something Keith?
Brian Phillips no because the gyro is still acting like a gyro. There is a servo centering mode, there has to be to set up the flybarless unit.
Brian Phillips there may not be a way. I did a check in helifreak and found a little info about the X6 that can help with the K130 when it comes to some of the calibrations and curves. www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=788189
Did you like this heli? I ended up actually shortening the tail boom cause it crashed ,like I think they all did on people . I really like the heli now .when I took a inch off the boom and put it all back together ,I descovered it flew way better with a shorter tail ..so maybee all those stretch ideas wasn't so great after all ....if you look at pro high dollar helicopters like sab ,there main blades almost touch the gyro blade . I don't know if that's it or not
I was scared of it...but it's a nice heli!
As for shortening the boom - that's crazy that it was BETTER - I assumed the motor would have to work a lot harder...but might look cool too!
On the upside you can buy these cheep servos in a 6 pack for around 5$. Might be good to include when you order it because of the long wait time from China. You could also buy a full pack with metal gears fairly cheap. The servos wont break but the connectors will if you have a bad crash.
The great thing with these tiny helicopters is that you can usually crash them with no damage at all if you cut power before it hits the ground and your flying over a softer flat surface like grass.
With a "regular sized" RC helicopter you can destroy basically the entire helicopter from just flipping over in a strong wind gust when taking off.
Also mastering your stunts in a simulator before usually helps out allot. 😎
yep...got some sitting on my counter now ;) ready to use in my Boeing 737 Max 9 for flaps ;)
Banggood sell the upgraded metal-gear servos - not much more expensive than the plastic ones. Compulsory upgrade i think - have just ordered 3 after a fairly minor crash.. Nice heli tho :)
Howsit Brian im having trouble with my xk130 im from South Africa had crashed it and the horizontal shaft had bent but main shaft still ok the only problem i have is that when a take off the left servo intends to move down before moving up please could you explain in regards to that thanx
And changed servos around but still the same only on the left which doesnt make any sense and had calibrated it but still no luck getting frustrated with it had bought the gear kits and put them in properly with alignment but still no go please help🙈
So you move the right stick (mode 2) and the blades tip as expected? You can test this without any throttle. Did you possibly reverse the channel, by accident?
hello sirr...can u give me solution?how about my xk k110...my helicopter took off spin when my heli fly huhu.....its tail motor have problem??
Possibly. Does the tail motor spin when you d/c the main brushless motor and throttle up? You can test this a number of ways, but be super careful. I don't want you to cut yourself up!!!
Hi! Do you have any idea if xk k130 transmitter is the same transmitter that comes with xk k110, 120, 123, 124? Will it bind to the other xk helis? Thank you!
I think it is, and I think you can, but you have to press the button on the front of the Rx. Pull the front off the heli, and look for the button, then you can bind it really easily.
@@BrianPhillipsRC OK! Thank you!
Do more helicopters.
I will do some soon, but we're kinda loaded for bear on planes right at the moment. I want to do a BIG heli soon...1m or more???
Ayeee rc helicopter
I knew you'd be excited!
Hey Brian, good to see that your flying Helis now. Should check out the Eachine E160. Far surperior than the K130.
I've been flying helis for a while...actually, I technically had a heli before my planes ;)
Is there a bigger Helicopter with S-FHSS compatibility on the market ??
I just did a review ;) czcams.com/video/yAMvgUOaYYU/video.html
Brian I just got mine but mine tilts forward which is scary any suggestions?
Have you tried to re calibrate the gyro? I'd start there. I did it about 10 times before I had the guts to take off in the kitchen. Then I proceeded to crash almost immediately - LOL :)
The servos will strip try these they work great for this Heli Blue Arrow Metal Gear AF-D43S-6.0-MG at Banggood
Thank you Reginal Pradia...
This is what you were talking about, right...
Replacement Metal Gear Servos - usa.banggood.com/custlink/mKGDzHbISu - They look nice!
@@BrianPhillipsRC yes both the gear and the servos after a crash and the landing isn't very good don't hold them while running up the main motor i got hit by the blades wasn't good on the knuckles , the landing gear came off .
I fully concur, metal gear upgrade sets are the best upgrades for plastic gear servos. Important to use a good greese on the metal gears or you will suffer a seized servo and thats no good at all. I'd rather replace plastic rotor pitch arms than tear into a servo even though metal gears die as well.
Brian please spend more time explaining setup of controller.
On a RTF there isn't that much to setup, but if you wish, we have explained MORE about some of these heli's on the BNF styles. Have you watched one of them? Might help answer some of your questions.
Where do you get those chargers and the boards
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Then I have new SMART chargers now...
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Do the parallel board work for EC5 connecter
Isn't the expo reversed on these? So minus is more docile at centre stick?
Possible. If it is, I'm not 100% sure. It's possible someone made a comment about it. I'm sorry I can't answer for you Mark.
@@BrianPhillipsRC I believe it is. So +30 is really sensitive at centre stick and -30 is really mushy.
I was hoping it was only the main gear, damn. 😔
Thanks, but it wasn't 20 minutes to fix
Great mi.fovorite elivopter😉😉😉😉😁😁😁😁😁
Do you have it?
Hi Brian, I've recently bought an K130 and I would like to bind it with my Frsky X-lite pro. Is it possible? if so, what protocol shall I use? thank you
Don't think you can, since this heli is Futaba FHSS compatible, BUT there seems to be a Satellite input, you might be able to use one of your choice....but totally a guess on my part. Sorry, I'm not super familiar with Fr Sky.
@@BrianPhillipsRC there is also a module for futaba fhss sytem . just like general link module for nine eagles ;)
Is there a way I can buy the remote only
Not sure...but I'm pretty sure you can use the Jumper for this heli.
@@BrianPhillipsRC do you know any cool full scale helis I cant find any
FULL SCALE?!?!?! You mean, bigger?
@@BrianPhillipsRC yes
You are hilarious
Thanks Sean ;) Glad you stopped in!
lol.. dude, yours lasted longer than mine did... im a drone guy, then a plane guy (if it has smart flight mode :O) and IM NOT A CHOPPER GUY!
I fixed it :) but this one is just a BIT past my skill set ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC it's a great first helicopter with its 6G Normal mode. Just fly it and let it teach you.
Hmmm... For Beginners, K130 is too much powerful and breaks the servo too much easily...
So... I ordered XK K110 for helicopter training video~ ^^
I agree ;) This is a very capable heli!!!
how i can change the mode?
I'm sorry, but not sure how to do it. I do believe you CAN do it, but I never tried.
bro that part is call the feathering shaft
cool, thanks
Hello Brian😉😉😉😁😁😁😁😉😁🍻🍻🍻
🍻🍻🍻 - I'd shake your hand, but the CDC says I can only elbow bump ;) LOL
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Can you say "shaft" some more? Haha
LOL - IF you just ram the shaft in, to penetrate JUST right, you will have installed the canopy correctly. (Missed opportunity!!!)
@@BrianPhillipsRC if you should continue to encounter resistance, liberally lubricate the shaft and ram it in
LOL - always a good rule of thumb..........
Like the hair streak man!
Thanks Nick!
Soo You Didn't Know That He Was Eddie Munster As A Child Star Back In Black & White TV Days!? LMAO
Don't let my secret out!!!
@@BrianPhillipsRC Ohhh I'm Sorry! Do You Want Me To Send You Naked Stripper Photos Of Your Stage Munster Mommy? LMAO
Wow, I think I was 1,234 view.. ha
Nice! Too bad you weren't the 1,234,567,890'th view ;)
Thanks for stopping in Brad!
W@@W Brian, You Got More Big Black Rubbers w/Holes In Them!!! At 7:08 That Was A 50 Shades of Grey Request Son, You Best Pay Attention To The Mistress Camera Lady! 8:50+ Don't Pinch My Stick, Awww Come On, Tell Us How You Really Feel... Nice Adapter , Use Both Holes At Same Time! LOL 28:35 *Quote - Stickin It In From The Rear, That's How It Usally Works! Plus 58:15+ She Loves A Keyed Shaft w/Full Pentatrations Before You Pull Out... "Priceless! Thanks Y'alls
Grumpy - you just pulled them right out!!! Very nice. You get an A+!!!!!
I'm Very Detecting & Sensitive Of Your "Inside" Jokes... LOL Thanks
lmaoo i love the 3d modes you should fly more 3d you seem experianced enough
I don't fly Heli's 3D...but I DO crash them 3D ;) LOL!!!
would have loved to have watched the whole vid...but an hour and a half is just too long.....LOL
That's why I try to time stamp events for people. Not sure if I did it on this video though.
Your videos are superb for people who need a bit of technical support ..the detail is what you need !!
Bottom line, don’t buy it it’s not for beginners, I crashed it on maiden and the repairs where very time consuming. It’s never flew right, junk!!!
Helicopters are junk. Fly quads.
They're all cool!
@@BrianPhillipsRC The helicopters are cool to watch, but two high of a learning curve I watched a rich guy destroy a $5000 one in minutes.