The Complicated Relationship Between NBA Players & The Media | Stephen A. & Paul George Discuss
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- čas přidán 16. 08. 2023
- Paul George and Stephen A. Smith talk about the success of athletes joining sports media and why athletes have to understand their role too. Also, Stephen A. shares a conversation he had with Rich Paul about LeBron's All-Time ranking.
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Stephan A is a very intellectual and well spoken man, and it’s great to hear him give his insight on the media side of the NBA and how some players don’t understand the job that journalist have to ask professional athletes tough questions.
Articulate, yes
SAS is full of shit if your boat was sinking he would throw more water into the boat.
He had some great points
Loud mouth egocentric goof
@@fanmail32u are a clown 🤡 for putting sas name in the same sentence as MLK smh 🤦🏿♂️ media really got u guys fooled
This is why you need long interviews like this, Steven A never convinced me like that, dude made a bunch of good points in a row, PG couldn't even deny and same for me !
Yea couldn’t do anything but respect what he said alot of great points
Absolutely…. First time I was like… he’s 1,000% right
That’s usually what happens when you listen to people with an open heart and mind. Preconceived notions can always fuck with our head
Because you’re racist too??
You lot are so easily fooled by a few “well articulated sentences”. “He tells it like he is”. The mantra of the fool
Little wonder you vote for who you do
Love SAS breaking down the responsibility and incentives of journalists, vs. the egos of players. It's the job of the media to call out players when they play poorly, behave badly, etc. and they're incentivized to do so, especially by their bosses and the company that pays their salaries. Players take it way too personally when journalists come at them, and no matter how much they get scrutinized by the media, they still getting paid millions by the league, their team, and sponsors at the end of the day.
Yea but u gotta understand that these players just got out of the game they’re adrenaline is pumpin and especially when they loose the reporter asks a silly question to get a controversial statement out of them even though they get paid millions but no one like to be look at in a way that’s negative publics eye
he has very interesting takes on it, especially the one where he went "yeah you can say you're a player and a human like everyone else but this isn't what you said when you were negotiating that check"
Criticizing a player is fine but the issue me and a lot of people have are these weird storylines or them completely making up stories for monetary gain.
@@SolaceMcflybut on the flip side my issue with NBA player podcasts is they usually set it up to cry about their lives and suck each other off while getting paid 50 million a year, I swear all of those podcasts are insufferable and PG is the only one I’ve seen who doesn’t do that.
@@SolaceMcfly What stories are made up? give some examples instead of just blindly following someone.
Not a huge Stephen A fan at all. But I love that he brought up the fact that the average journalist and beat writer is just out there doing their job earning their paycheck; answering to editors and investors. I am sure there are some jerks and incompetents out there like any job. But it’s a job and their are expectations. They ain’t all making millions or stealing spotlights. They have families to take care of. But same as the athletes it’s a give and take and it works best with mutual respect not mutual antagonism.
I just wish he wouldn't yell so much.
Sorry. But I’ll never sympathize with corporate media.
And these same people you empathize with will sell an athlete down the river if it meant augmenting their career…whether it is the truth is just a pleasant coincidence
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Steven A is full of 💩!
They media including himself does not want the athletes to have 100% creative control! It’s just like cable TV they have lost millions of subscribers because more people are streaming. Also individuals can get free over the air stations with a $25 dollar antenna! Sports journalist are not “needed” as in years past!
Paul George was right also though. That’s what you signed up for just like us.
Steph A was 100% right to call KD out about the OKC situation and how he went at Stephen A for telling folks he was leaving.
And when he clowned LeBron
He killed that. Love watching him outside of ESPN
Wow this is one of the best podcast clips I’ve ever seen. Stephen A a G.
I now look at the media totally different seeing the perspective of the journalist it’s literally their job regardless if they want to ask the questions or not. Much respect for Stephen A
Everyone think they are a journalist now and thats the problem talking into a mic is not journalism
I like what SAS says about the players not really digging into each other. Also putting into
perspective the difference in job security and pay.
I loved this breakdown. I understand it’s a necessary evil that the reporters have to say that. He just articulates it in a way that can help remember that these are people just trying to survive as well.
He’s a snake. He doesn’t give a toot about anyone else but his career and brand.
@Harvester88
It’s not such thing as a “necessary evil”! I wish more reporters would lose their job for asking stupid ass questions instead of asking questions that have “substance”!
I’m glad athletes are taking ownership so their words aren’t twisted for the main stream media narrative! As Draymond said this is the “new media”!
@@kelj4517gotta throw more blame on producers/editors instead of journalists because these producers, as Stephen A. stated throw the journalists under the bud by forcing them to ask dumb questions
PG for sure has a post nba career. Well spoken, thoughtful and most of all, he listens.
Well spoken? Would you use those words to describe a white guy? Why is it surprising when a black athlete can talk well?
He might as well make this his career now because he doesn’t play basketball 😂
@@mropinatedfromchicago971exactly 😂😂
Stephen A is honestly so brilliant. Can’t even hate once you hear his side
He really got u nerds fooled lol 😂 🤦🏿♂️
@@brooklynblack9015 well said . With that silly shock Jock journalism himself Skip Perkins even Shannon Sharpe wouldnt last 2 minutes if lets say they were from Europe and they were doing punditry on football there BS wouldnt be but up with . Now JJ Reddick, Draymond Green , Chuck Barkley , Shaq and the rest of that crew they would be loved they would lap them up over here u know why there not fake and dont make it about them they make it about the game .
PG13 over goated for creating this Podcast 🔥
wipe your mouth when you done 🔥
@@kanepicturesIt’s so weird how the current trend is to make fun of ppl giving praise and kudos
@@ClassicallyChristionfr this generation gotta get grabbed by there neck
@@ClassicallyChristionbecause everyone is "goated"
@@ClassicallyChristion😂🤦🏾 sad world
3:30 calling out the “cat” Malika Andrew 😂
Cool to see a genuine conversation
Stephen A is really the best in the business! Really fascinating interview!
4 sure his understanding of what's expected of him takes him to the level of number 1
There’s so many hilarious sound bites in this short clip alone. 🤣 God bless, SAS.
The media doesn’t have anything to worry about. These athlete lead podcasts aren’t critiquing games they are interviewing athletes two different lanes. They also have a media obligation through the nba and the teams which keeps them employed regardless
Ikr. The players aren’t sensaltionalizing, making up fake narratives and finding ways to blame the players for what’s wrong with sports/society.That’s media’s job😑
Led*
Modern day journalists are more concerned about getting clicks than journalistic integrity. I dont blame athletes for wanting nothing to do with those people who rather dive into your private life than keeping it professional
do you follow actual journalists and beat writers that cover sports teams? or do you just watch mainstream entertainment shows and expect “journalism?” it’s 2 different things
I think all atlethes venturing into media need to listen to Stephen's message between the lines.
When you work in the media, you have to be prepared for the good, the bad and the ugly.
The new media is good for fans to know more about the player as a person, but you still need a PR team to filter what you say if you want to keep working in the NBA.
The old media is always going to influence sports. The decision makers need a voice when they want to raise or lower a player's value.
It's business, after all.
Huh? Forget corporate media. And their lies and dis/mis info. And shilling for owners & mgt. 👎
PG not hearing the msg Stephen A is trying to say. Wasn’t the biggest SA fan before but he hits some great points in this segment.
Aye that was a great take and you got both perspectives. Well done is an understatement. It was some knowledge dropped on this one
This was quite insightful and informative on the part of Stephen A who I usually don’t pay much attention to.
Big fan of this podcast!
Great insight Stephen A. Stay Real and looking out for black people. A true inspiration.
The problem of the media is not asking tough questions. It’s asking the questions and then cutting a 10 seconds clip from a 10 minutes interview to push an exaggerated narrative.
Yes that's the editor
@@Clee-dv9jzSame
Thing. They work for same corporate conglomerate that owns everything.
Great chat
Wow the best guest yet ❤
Stephan A will never admit it.. Yet he was one of those dude's hating on the "New Media." He's now hoppin on it because he doesn't want to be left out the limelight. He was honest about the taking other potential jobs. Going to be his included. The success, or not.
Yep exactly
Reality is players are not trying to have a full time podcast and network to promote themselves while they play. It's a ton of work.
He never hated on “New Media” it’s just all these athletes just having guys come on just to kiss their ass and not asking them any real questions
STEPHEN A STRAIGHT SMOKED THAT TOPIC! He brought up a lot of things l never really thought about. So happy PG started this podcast. It’s the type of topics and talks I’ve been waiting to hear.
This will be a classic…straight 🔥🔥🔥
Journalists hold people accountable. Well said Stephen A
Black athletes accountable not whites
False. They rarely rarely criticize owners, mgt, or even coaches.
It is weird hearing Stephen A dropping F-bombs constantly. He is like a different guy here.
he gone wild since the whole Disney thing where they started firing people at ESPN.... I think he is kind of done with TV anyway
Listen to his podcast without Disney the man talks about everything from politics to Zion and his porn star tendencies
@@KaiserReb If he is talking about porn stars , then he is trying to get fired. Disney will not tolerate that unfortunately.
@@mursuka80 read again
@@KaiserReb He is still employed by Disney. They are prudes.
Steven A……is a real person, who cares about our people! Class guy
Doing it Big Dogg keep it Poppin
Great persective shift
the white dude - Woj, Shams? 😂
The players won't be overly critical of other players on their podcasts.
Exactly why you need the other side of journalism
Its a good thing they will just give the media more content especially off season 😂
He really talks about REAL TOPICS. 🎯💯
It took PG13 to make me realize it but these type of podcasts filled the void left by Dick Cavett. I think what is happening is that significant. Also this podcast is fantastic.
Real talk Stephen A 💯
When talkin about NBA players podcast no one bring up the best podcast the knuckleheads Quentin Richardson and Darius miles by far the best podcast Paul George still my favorite player
These pod casts are better than the sports talk shows
0:19: 👥 Stephen A. Smith expresses his pride in athletes entering the content space and warns of the competition they may face.
3:00: 🗣 Athletes should take responsibility for their media presence and be mindful of who they support and oppose.
6:11: 😡 Stephen A. Smith expresses frustration with superstar athletes for trying to get journalists fired for asking tough questions.
8:58: 🗞 Athletes and journalists have different roles and responsibilities, but journalists should still ask tough questions.
11:44: 🏀 The speaker criticizes NBA players, including KD and LeBron, for not living up to their claims and not performing as expected.
14:25: 🏀 The conversation is about a basketball player's performance and the Prize Picks app.
Recap by Tammy AI
I like podcast Stephen A. way more than the regular Stephen A.
He took over the whole podcast , let P talk
Also the athletes are breaking stories, if anything the athletes are stepping on each others toes by having multiple athlete lead podcasts
I think the reason why nba players are successfull when podcasting is because they are great at their profession and we the people see them as authentic. I rather hear about the intricacies of their sports career from the horses mouth than rather someone D riding and observing.
So you just want to hear biased opinions?
@@ajjamaal646 no, I would love to hear all options but, some are more valuable than others. Would you love to hear about the works of God or Gods from a follower, non follower or the very God or Gods that actually do the work?
Stephen A broke that down
Yall got Stephen A looking crazy in the thumbnail 😂
NGL Paul George just sounds like you weren't really prepared for what you were signing up for. I honestly want to know what he wants to media to talk about when it comes to basketball, are we not supposed to be dissecting these games?😂
Well to be fair he's still new in the podcast space and he's going against Stephen A Smith. SA is used to this, PG isn't
To be fair A lot of these Players in professional sports stopped going to school once they could join their pro league so they’re kinda slow 🤷🏾♂️
As much as I don't like SAS' takes sometimes but that dude has been in that GAME for a long ass time. He worked his ass off getting to the place where he is now.
We need Akumpo on here please make it happen
Wow. Great discussion. Sounds to me like what Stephen a is saying is journalists envy athletes. Lol. But this does clarify a lot of things I have against sports journalists.
Get rid of them all. Including tv broadcast crews.
SAS just came on this podcast an punkd every last one of them. He just showed them that old media still has the ultimate power. They had no pushback, just agreed with all that was being said by SAS. They was talking big stuff about SAS a week before. SAS got on his pod Cast and systematically broke pg career earnings, and Jackie film credits down, saying pretty much they are not worth what they get. The very first thing they do when SAS sits down is start laughing they(Jackie n pg) even look at each other and subliminally agree we not about that smoke frfr. I might leave this pod cast alone cause that just shows me, pg a player but when real smoke happens in this war and trust me there is a war happening between players n media,old media and new media, he and his guys go fall in line and not really be about that smoke.
Stephen A Smith gonna say something else on his show next week, just watch 😂
We need an ATL 2.
Paul George has a radio voice
Stephen A smith the man, and Stephen A smith the character on first take are two different things.
I am shocked the layed back PG13 has his own podcast ! Paul George is well spoken and insightful. Funny as well!
Athletes don’t want to be criticized. They want the money and the praise without any of the tough questions being asked.
Where is that energy they had when speaking about Stephen a when he wasn’t on the couch?
I think the media and the players can meet a medium by the media for example saying that eventhough the cat did this or that they can follow it up by saying he's human an we all make mistakes something of that fashion I think players would respect there journalism more
The media's job is to help promote the sport and it's personalities, along with providing info on any "Off the field Issues" that impact the game. The players job is to act like egotistical, entitled children who are too sensitive and fragile to accept criticism for $10 million/yr. Hell, the rest of us take criticism from our Supervisor at work every week for far less.
I mess w Stephen A fr fr
He should question Stephen a on his kawhi hate ..
Wanna see Jokic and Kawhi do a podcast show together, let’s see who breaks the silence lol
😂😂😂😂
I respect PG for not falling into that white vs black BS Stephen A was trying to push
So he is saying the system is fucked up without saying it? Because if it's the producers who make the journalists ask mean questions, then the journalists should not work for such people. At the end of the day someone must be the culprit, you can't just excuse bad journalism because of the system. Without trying to do anything.
A system he is well fed into. And who he is a relevant part of.
Stephan A Smith, the true GOAT
At what talking 😭
Y’all hate one day and meat ride the next. I must say, I respect the balance.
Absolutely not 👎👎
Editors Lord It Over The Reporters...
NBA Owners Lord It Over The Players..
I still can't believe that man KD left OKC for GS LOL
SAS is so full of himself lol. He’s a good brotha tho. He’s not perfect but he means well.
Anyone that is a true fan of basketball is not really listening to the media including former players that are now part of the network shows - the core of the issue is that Stephen A and the media are essentially providing biased reporting. If they were just providing facts, stats and information without any dose of bias and opinion, then there will be no issues and one can agree with "they are doing their job" but to have more bias and opinion in your coverage and reporting than facts is not doing "your job"
What bias are you referring to?
Arnt players bias there talking about the league they play in the players they work with that’s the most bias
Sports media is all bias and opinion. Giving terms of a player’s contract is reporting. Spending 30 minutes slandering a player and quantifying what he is “worth” and “how much he should get paid” is not reporting and is purely biased propaganda. These journalists are regular people - they are not subject matter experts. This is why rappers now have sports media shows as they are as credible as the traditional sports journalists given it is purely entertainment. If it is all for entertainment purposes, I rather watch funny rappers talk about sports than journalists on network shows
I agree with like 1000% dude! I been saying all this for a minute. Because the reality is espy views are down and a big part of the reason is the bias reporting, that they try and mask as expertise. its annoying and why espy doesn't get a single moment of viewership from me unless its watching an actual game, which as I get older and try to lvl up in life I have less time for anyway. imo another part of the problem is the 24 hr coverage of sports that exist. its created an over extension of sports talk where because they have so much space to fill in television, its created the "need" for nonsense shows that don't really need to exist. not to mention the redundancy of like 6 ppl chiming in on the same topic almost saying the same thing as the last person. id rather just talk to my friends about sports here an there now and watch games when I can and listen to an occasional podcasts. sports is not that incredibly important in life as a whole to where it needs to be on our minds 24/7@@parthb90
There is bias and opinion in "EVERYTHING"... Politics, Sports, Entertainment, Realtionships, Investing....Literally everything! The real problem is that this generation of men is too sensitive and takes everything personal.
A damn shame people don't want players to succeed smh. Hate is a disease
I agree, but if it was your job/industry and you’re going up against people who already have millions of dollars and connections… idk it might be very easy to become bitter
@@99_Planetbitter because somebody else got more, that sound crazy.
@@juansanders-ck1ol I see what yu saying but idk if it’s all about them having more, I was always told as a young boy. You never EVER fuck with how a man makes a living. To take away a man’s way to provide is ken to killing him.
Best pod in basketball
Of course, race is brought into it.
if players take accountability for their performance there's literally no issue at play. if you play like trash, own it and move on.
GET ANTHONY EDWARDS ON THE PODCAST PLEASE
Players understand what other players go through. So player podcast is more based. Unlike media, mfers jus talking shii to talk shii 😆 🤣
Stephen a looks sick look 👀 at him
Main Street media talks about LBJ winning or losing, it’s like to hear these podcast that don’t mention him
Bcoz nba pushes the script
Everybody sleeps on the knuckle headz podcast 😢
Media should not be opinionated.
Yo PG let me design your set 👀
SAS trying to gate keep and act like he is looking out for multimillionaires is a strange flex, if you can't see or hear it i dont know what to tell you.
I missed the part where they talked about Malika Andrews and her hatred of Black men..
I understand Stephen a bit it goes both ways dey are doing dere jobs the media but at the same time just like he said NBA players make more money but it doesn't give u the right to run with a narrative n stay on it no matter wat like dey did with kyrie and wat dat did he got paid but he didn't get the bag he was supposed to because the media ran with a narrative so dey messed his money up no matter wat n who makes wat it goes both ways just cause u make less n it's your job doesn't give u the right to do certain stuff for periods off time is an example n in general not only Kyrie NBA playersr
Stephen a what about the real brothas working a 9-5 with 3 kids watching y'all talk about how y'all help each other? Y'all just be sharing the money back and forth. Help out the homies paying your bills bro
This is what everyone is scared about in the end in media.
The same people in the comments saying SAS is right are the same ones who hate Malika Andrews.
Stephen A is real , lucky we got him in the media for us ,he always holds African American athletes accountable and that’s all he ask
Mainstream media has become fanboys for certain players and some players have become babies throwing tantrums
did steven a just call shams white? how is this okay?
Everything is based off stories in this world. These peoples soul purpose is to push different narratives and see how long they can profit off each one good or bad. Just don’t play their game and you’ll be ight
IM DISAPPOINTED IN PG N JACK… YALL DIDNT HAVE TJAT ENERGY FROM THE OTHER POD CAST… I LOVE S A BUT DAM CALL IT ALL OUT
I like these podcasts but I honestly dislike seeing these players during off-season.
Sas much more likeable on podcasts
Accountability is the black mans kryptonite.
NBA players are soft. They get paid then fade away from the court and rather be on a podcast. NBA product is really bad currently.
Love when media people bash the shit outta PRO ATHLETES but get butthurt when the athletes come at them
I'm sorry but I would definitely rather hear from the players themselves then from some ppl who never played the game at that level...