Relaxed flight in DCS Hornet with Quest3 Hand Tracking (No comment)
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- čas přidán 4. 03. 2024
- Tutorial on how to enable hand tracking is out now: • DCS Meta Quest3 Hand T...
Demo of fully functional VR hand tracking in DCS, using Quest3
Quick preparation, cat launch, air-to-air refuelling, cloud surfing and not one of my best recoveries back to the boat.
With newest Quest3 update v63 and DCS 2.9, it is now possible to provide hand tracking via Quest Link into OpenXR applications, like DCS World.
In DCS, in VR options enable "Trackers". Currently this feature seems to work only with ED modules (I tried with F/A-18, AH-64).
I use HOTAS and rudder pedals, and have assigned on-the-fly toggle of hands and pilot body on free buttons. When hands are disabled, mouse works as usual. Most of the key switches and buttons are mapped to the HOTAS, but hand tracking is very useable to operate MFDs and UFC.
Recording is done on Quest3 onboard.
Video cropped from VR field of view to fit 16:9, black bar on the left during fast head motion is image stabilisation artefact. - Hry
It's just Amazing how thoses company work hard to brings us all this realism... After trackir..after VR helmet...now we've got this hand and fingers tracking 😮😮😮
Totally, we're living in such a cool times for home-use flight simulation advancements
@@MnemonicFliesDCSI just wish we had this tech 20+ years ago when I had all the time in the world for simming. Now with my job, family and even space constraint (small apt.) it's just wishful thinking. 🥲
Just give us the plane, already! 😂
Dude this is sick! As a hornet driver myself being disappointed with the quest 2 and going back to 3d, after watching this I think I’ll go this route as the tech matures.
Great footage!
Thank you! Hope to put new video soon, once figure out issues with new Oculus software.
@@MnemonicFliesDCS VR quest issues with OpenXR will be fixed with the next update. 😅
The tech is definitely getting better and better.
Awesome I'm ready to get into VR mode myself. Great job.
No way! That's amazing? Props to the devs
My first "Flight Sim" was Tomahawk on Atari XL with an Competition Pro Stick!
The Second was Flight Simulator on Atari ST and F18 Interceptor on Commodore Amiga! (No Avionics)
The third was Longbow 2 (Jane's) on Pentium 200MMX with 3Dfx Voodoo 1.
Logitech Wingman Extreme
And Others!
TFX, Flanker 1.3 and so on ....
It's amazing in all Times of Computer-History!
Haha, remember Tomahawk loading for half an hour.
Progress for home flight simming has been tremendous, and it accelerated within last few years
@@MnemonicFliesDCSYes especially the graphics are amazing. I think physics was already quite good since "Falcon 4.0" era. But graphics are on completely different level. When I first played Lock-on Modern Air Combat, I thought the technology already reached to the peak level but it wasn't at all...😂
Wingman AI in janes's longobow 2 is better than dcs
This was amazing, thank you 🙏
You welcome! Come back for more vids from time to time :)
Awesome how far the Quest 3 technology has come!! With the Quest 2 I had to touch all these buttons with my mouse. :)
been trying to get my quest 3 to run anywhere this smooth feels all jittery
@@coates1329 Could be from non-flicker free LEDs or simliar pulsating ambient light, IR light pollution when using the controllers or all of that and not enough ambient light when doing handtracking.
Beautiful.
VR and gloves has to be so much better than the typical airliner simulator building. Vastly cheaper too
Probably both combined would be the best. That way you can see your hand in game, but also actually feel each button press too.
I had a quest Pro delivered today.. not turned it on yet..
Really hoping it's going to perform with DCS man..
Cant wait if it does work!
Please keep us updated, would be sick to have it working on Quest Pro too!
Awesome test! How did you set up a toggle of hand tracking on and off?!
Nice flying! And thanks for showcasing my MFD mod. I'm releasing a new one in a couple of days so keep an eye out!
Link?
@@Procxlite Google F/A-18C Modern MPD/SuperHornet MPD Mod. It's out today :)
@@capngrimcoke127 cool! I looked for it but not quite certain I found yours, only one on the DCS files for DCS 2.7, do you have a GitHub repo I can find or a specific username I could search for?
Nvm found it from another comment! Thanks :)
Haha, thanks for the mod @capngrimcoke127! I'm looking forward to the new one! ;)
I love hand tracking in games. I got the surprise of my life in half Life Alyx, when I found it.
It'll be great in the near future
I borrowed a quest 2 and a quest 3, the 3 is miles better than the 2 (obviously). It's so friggin' immersive! Way better clarity throughout the lens etc and just overall, its so nice!
What kind of visual mod r u using for the cockpit, like the text on the ddi is white and a lot more readable than the typical green.
I use this mod for color text on DDIs: www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3331688/
We are waiting for tutorial video)
Wainting!!!!!😅😅😅
Tutorial is out, check it up!
Can't wait 'til this stuff actually works smoothly, accurately and consistently with the different headsets out there... will be the next game-changer.
It has to start somewhere, and I think we are finally somewhere from where it can improve.
Is it possible to use the stick and throttle like in VTOL VR? Or you need a HOTAS?
Love my Quest 3 for DCS, how do you record? I always end up cutting half the video out?
I record onboard of Quest3, with Medium or High setting on image stabilization, 20Mbps bitrate, Full-HD resolution, highest quality preset
Does this work for the quest 2? That's all I have currently and was hopeful hand tracking would be usable in DCS for my beloved blackhawk
It should
Omg, what setup is this, this is amazing
My carrier landings are different. They must put on fireworks or something because as soon as I touchdown I see fire and explosions and everything goes black.
Can you do a video on how to set up the hands tracking via quest link
Will try to put together one soon!
@@MnemonicFliesDCSWould definitely watch that. i just cant get my q3 hand tracking working for some reason
I would also be very interested in getting it to work. I tried a while back and it just wouldn’t do the hand tracking.
Great!! Any third party software or only enabling it in DCS with the last quest 3/pro update?
Thanks, just DCS running in OpenXR mode, and Quest3 via link. I'll make explanation vide soon
@@MnemonicFliesDCS , Yes, I tried it yesterday, but I can't get it to always detect button presses, the mouse still seems much faster to me.
For me it's not only about speed, it's just ability to reach out and click, I have small wheel on TM F/A-18 grip mapped to Left/Right VR Arm toggle (Up/Down), and Body Toggle (Press), so I can always enable or disable it, and with VR arms disabled mouse works as is, so this is not really limiting, just adding to experience. Also I noticed with a bit of practice "clicking" works much better. Also try to light up your hands that seems to improve tracking to me.
@@gonvise
Good timing on this video for me. I finally have the settings on the Q3 for DCS and I’m running it through VR desktop without any issues. I did manage to get the hands to display but nothing like what you’re doing. I admit I’m VR newcomer, it’s starting to make sense. Run in stand alone version, a screenshot of your VR and special page would clarify a lot for this guy, always getting splashed in DCS pilot.
Great stuff! You say quest link. Are you using a cable or wireless link?
what mod gives you the bi-color mfd?
Nice! PC specs? FPS?
did you cut the video down? why is your fov so small?
Nice Video.. THX.. My Meta 3 comes next Week.. What kind of Flying Hardware did you use? Stick, throttle etc:?
says in desc that he uses hotas. meaning joystick and throttle., and rudder pedals. a pretty standard set up.
Virpil WarBRD + Thrustmaster F/A-18 grip, Virpil Throttle CM3, Thrustmaster pendular rudder pedals
@mnemonic, you mentioned that you use a mod so you have white text on your DDI's, but can you provide a link to this mod? Of information on how to find it? Thanks!
This is the one I use: www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3331688/
i thought V63 was borked on DCS ? but... we can usse hand tracking in Q3 with it u say ?
I wasn't aware of V63 link update as it wasn't rolled out for me at the moment when I recorded a video, and was using V63 of Quest software ,but V62 Link. Now It is borked for me as well, I just figured how I can bypass issues by using Virtual Desktop, so hope to post an update soon(ish)
first how did u get colored dispaly in your f18 ?
second how did u configer the settings i cant get it work like that with valve index controllers
This is hand tracking (without controllers) on Quest3, I'm making video on how to setup. Colored displays are from this mod: www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3331688/
Ok… what kind of equipment do I need for that??
why were you waved off when you were that close in ?
I also wonder why :)
Usually it goes differently
2nd attempt he was coming in too high, had to force the nose down to catch the wire.
Was waiting for the index finger and thumb circle lol
Can I do this with the meta quest 2?
EDIT (Will this work for a Quest Pro?) Looks like a no. I also use the wired connection which virtual desktop doesn't want to work with at all, from what I can see
Of course virtual desktop doesn't work with a wired connection. It's sole purpose is to connect your quest wirelessly to your pc.
can we have some tutorial? i tried everything but never got this to work :/ i dont see my hands and its super laggy
Tutorial is on this very channel
How hard is it to hit those buttons on fly? I mean are they how accurate / any "wobblyness"? anytime hit wrong buttons for example..?
It's acceptable, I tried various hand tracking in the past, but this one is actually something I can use. Problem is not in the wobbliness, but more in that you don't touch physical surface, and have to learn to "press air", but it's the first time tech like this is actually playable in my book. Especially for the buttons, not so much for switches or dials.
@@MnemonicFliesDCS I wonder how the rock-solid steam vr system could aid with this? the sensors being 10x more reliable than any other VR system....
Hello!, I’ve got the question 3 also, and know the potential of this VR set, how do you make it work?. Is there another app to tell DCS to identify your hands? Can you make another video explaining how do you configured.?… I remember using for a while the LEAP MOTION, and it was amazing for me. Thanks in advance..
@@Perre320 tutorial is already on this channel, link in the description to this video :)
Wait a minute he actually has control of the flight stick?
This does not work for me, when I enable trackers, DCS crashes. Currently, Quest 3 hand tracking is useless both in DCS and MSFS.
Crash to Desktop issue should be fixed with latest DCS update according to dev logs
@@MnemonicFliesDCS Thanks, glad to hear that.
im not entirely sure about the FOV, like i think in real life you see wider that the FOV you have in the game so even with quest3 you kinda had a zoommed version that doesnt reflect what you would see in real life
This is a portion of recorded screen in the video, it's about 1/3 of what I actually see in Quest3. This caused by image stabilisation, that cuts parts of the screen to smoothen VR head shaking, and also it was cut to 19:9 aspect ratio. FOV in the headset is very good, and not a problem at all.
how do you turn the dials, just got mine set up ?
1. Buttons work well, 2. Switches work ok, but less reliable, 3. Turning knobs doesn't work well at all, basically these controls were designed by ED team for controllers, and not really for actual hands, I hope they see that more people are interested in the topic and will improve this aspect.
wave off means go around and make a better landing
My bad I kept it in the video :D
What happened I pushed throttles, and pulled up but at the same moment grabbed hook. I owe LSO a beer.
Since my quest 3 updated to V63 I cannot play DCS in VR and lord knows how long it will take to get patched in the next update.
roll i tback and turn off auto updates
I tried, it won't let me.
Yep, I concur, had problems recording new video because of this. Search for V62 install files, and re-install oculus software, unfortunately this seems to be the only fix now.
Looks really fun.. but u cant dogfight or shoot ground targets ? i play with quest3 touch controllers feels good an u can dogfight also..
No, I use HOTAS + Rudder Pedals to actually fly and fight the plane. Hands for UFC / MFD
@@MnemonicFliesDCS u can do with touch controllers using you're hands in the plane
How do you use rudder to turn left or right in vr?
I use rudder pedals, and I use HOTAS for flying. Ability to finally reach-out and use hands for cockpit interactions in VR is a nice new feature in DCS.
why MFDs look different? no reflections?
I used mod for color MFDs, but also they are less reflective when flying in the shadow below clouds.
@@MnemonicFliesDCS Oooo what kind mod
what pc specs do you have?
My main flight rig is i9-9900KS, RTX 3090Ti, 64GB RAM. There are guides out there to help you tweak the settings just right, but I might make mine as well.
glitchy :( many times you need to click 2 or 3 times to make it work.
I actually have tried to used it on daily basis.
Many times. Forget about quick actions.
This is DCS problem as does have very narrow trigger zone. The end of the finger need to be in exact depth from button face to trigger.
Simply they forgot about switch model collisions and have texture deep trigger zone (means 1 pixel) xD
If you try to push button to fast, your finger simply fall through trigger zone and nothing happens.
This has been my concern too. I've been keeping an eye out for it, but it needs to be reliable for sure.
@@cptmrcalmYeah, looking on comments under this video seems people has no common sense. Do not trust any of those advertisement and hype around hand tracking for DCS. It's clunky and not worth to spend $ and time on it in current shape.
I use it to complement mouse, it gives additional feeling of presence, just like pilot body. It works good enough for all the upfront stuff. I also bind enabling/disabling hands on joystick, so that I can instantly switch between hands / mouse. Good thing that it's not "vr controllers" anymore, just hands, you can grab flight stick at any moment, proceed clicking on UFC, no extra effort involved.
f18 with color mfd's? Did I miss something?
😂 no bro...this MFD show Map in color
It's a mod
@@MnemonicFliesDCS I know this is unrelated but do you have a link? Assuming it doesn't pass integrity check? I have seen a ton of MFD clarity mods but having trouble finding this one.
@@Sanuske4 www.reddit.com/r/dcsworld/comments/1bnspf6/recent_oculus_vr_bug_fix/?onetap_auto=true&one_tap=true
@@MnemonicFliesDCS Thanks!
Well of course... they provide this functionality and at the same time break DCS running in the Quest Link software. For me, when I try to start up DCS while using the Quest Link software, DCS crashes before it gets to the menu (known bug, ED says it needs to figure out what Meta changed and Meta says it's ED's problem -- even though it was Meta that updated and caused the issue). If anyone has a solution to that bug, I would love to try this out. Until then, I am stuck using Virtual Desktop or Steam Link (neither of which give me the performance that Quest Link did).
I use virtual desktop it cost a few $ but worth it.
Link on a cable works fine to me
@@rocketcityastro I do use Virtual Desktop, but it's not as smooth as a cabled Quest Link connection. Unfortunately, Virtual Desktop isn't just a few $. To take full advantage, you really ought to get a good WiFi 6 router and dedicate it for only the Virtual Desktop connection. Virtual Desktop really should allow a cabled connection.
@@MnemonicFliesDCS That's good! I wish I could say the same. The bug seems to have to do with higher-end graphics cards (I'm running a 4090). As it is, this bug has pretty much halted my DCS flying. I hope they get it fixed soon.
@@MikeSwanbergthere is a fix out there, involves copying some older Oculus folders/files on the DCS forums.
i have a 3070 and a ryzen 3800x ... and i can hardly get 30 fps in vr
You should be able to tweak it, I was able to setup DCS to run VR Okayish on 4770k and 2080-Super
why do the upper screens have color? superhornet mod
It’s a color MFD mod, not Superhornet
Даже не знал, что такие технологии вообще существуют в продаже!
It's mass produced VR headset from Meta, not the most expensive even, but I love it!
no matter what i do i can not get this to work on my quest 3 :/
- Has at least 5 or 6 ghz wifi router (802.11 ac/ax/az/be) with no or few other devices in the network and line of sight?
- System specs to run DCS at 4k@72fps+
- PC with Oculus app, Virtual desktop or Steam (with Steam Link enabled on PC and also installed on Quest 3) installed?
- Hand tracking settings in Quest 3 settings fiddled with?
- Enough ambient light so Quest can see hands well, flicker free LEDs help.
😭 somebody help I am not finding this game anywhere on the Oculus Quest 2
It's a PC game: www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/
@@MnemonicFliesDCS 😔 Thank you
Just need gloves with pressure sensation now.
That would be really cool!
Hand tracking needs a lot of work. It looks like you’re tapping multiple times with nothing happening.
It seriously depends on the lighting conditions in the room unfortunately. And contact meshes of the buttons in DCS are way too shallow, needs some practice. But it's okay as a drop-in extra feature, to all the hardware and software solutions we already have.
Even so, technologie hás improved so much... I never thought as a kid to see this happend as it is today... Nice video
Poor pilot with Parkinson
"My hands are shaking, my heart beating, but I still getting those frags, BOOM HEADSHOT!" :)
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