Attrition Orbs Is MUCH BETTER Than You Think
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- čas přidán 12. 07. 2024
- In this video I break down 5 advantages of using the perk Attrition Orbs.
TimeStamp:
0:00 Perk Insight
0:17 Advantage 1
1:08 Advantage 2
1:46 Advantage 3
2:14 Advantage 4
2:46 Advantage 5
3:06 Bonus Advantage
3:17 Just To Clarify
MUSIC:
"The Ice Giants" by Kevin Maclead
"Rooftop" by Alex Productions
#destiny2 #attritionorbs #perkguide - Hry
By the way I realized after making this video the Iron Banner SMG can roll with Attrition Orbs & Kinetic Tremors. Could be spicy for PVE.
I will be finding out.
That and under over were the two perks that seemed worthwhile with KT, and that’s what I got first (and slightly preferred). So, that’s what I’ll be going with.
@@Welverin nice! 👍
I got the roll and it is amazing to be especially if you put on kinetic surges for even more damage buff
Attrition Orbs + Kinetic Tremors was my first drop. My eyes kind of bugged out when I saw the perk combo. I was so focused on looking for a good PVP roll that a killer PVE roll totally caught me off guard.
@@VernStarr yeah a lot of people are sleeping on this combo. Very strong for builds.
I got a Parabellum with Rewind/Orbs early in the season and put 2.5k kills on it in pve. It’s actually a crazy fucked up combo, and can be a pseudo anti-barrier weapon with the artifact for Radiant. And then I got a Title with Orbs/Destab Rounds. Orbs is a SUPER slept on perk, but the community will wake up sooner or later, especially with Onslaught coming up 🌚
Oh yeah, that's a Swiss army knife combination right there!! The iron Banner SMG can get kinetic tremors with attrition orbs too which could be nasty.
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People found out how much of the mag it took to make one orb and completely wrote it off.
Most of a magazine doesn’t seem when most everything else requires one or more kills.
@Welverin it procs off hits, too, meaning you can proc it 2x off a single mag if you reload early on the mag before.
@@AceInTheSpade Do you by chance know if hotting multiple enemies from the tremors shockwave would count as multiple hits?
This perk is so fun! Anyone else played like 20 plus Iron Banner matches this week and gotten no new stuff?. I just want that new GL, but only gotten stuff I already have
I've heard control gives more drops. Tribute seems to be less?
I played tribute and got it to drop after like seven games
I totally wrote off attrition orbs as a perk, but after watching this video it seems really useful especially for higher tier PVE content. Thank you for opening my eyes!
Absolutely! That was the goal. 👍
Great gameplay thanks for showcasing
Absolutely. ✌️😎
I guess what it comes down to in general is… do you need more Orbs?
Most of the time the answer is no because you’re getting plenty of Orbs from a Siphon mod, Heavy Handed or Firepower (which if you’re really leaning into the spam of those depending on your build either 2-3 mods of that are going to give you really great rewards) and/or Reaper. Not to mention subclass fragments that can also generate orbs. So if there’s no real issue making Orbs and even with the nerfs it seems like you still have infinite ability spam and fast supers, do you need it?
The next question is what are you giving up on a weapon you’re actually going to use? The weapons you might even use to begin with are limited out of the weapons that have it unless we’re talking the most casual of casual playing (which is completely fine BTW). Just a couple examples…. Breakneck. You giving up Kinetic Tremors or Onslaught? Definitely not. Scatter Signal. You giving up Controlled Burst? Subjunctive. You giving up Voltshot? The answer is pretty well always NO, which is fine.
When you get to end game (doesn’t have to be end game either) each season has something super strong that you’re using which is versatile (like Polaris Lance) and if you’re trying to run something faster you’re spamming rockets to kill big enemies and add clear. The video gameplay is the perfect example of a combination of the issues of something like Attrition Orbs. Parabellum is a fine weapon and all. Are we really going to give up Sunshot, Polaris Lance, Calus Mini-Tool, Abyss Defiant, The Summoner, Heliocentric QSc, Tyranny of Heaven, No Survivors, Zaouli’s Bane, Ammit AR2, Vex Mythoclast, Cartesian Coordinate, Ticcuu Divination, The Eremite, Tarrabah and I’m sure I could name more but I’m only talking about solar weapons in that slot up for something that kills slower and has less general utility (either becoming stronger for single target, clearing groups of adds quicker and such) to get some more Orbs? The answer is going to almost always be no unless it’s a content creator making a video. Which the gameplay also shows that too because the even though you could kind of double dip with Attrition Orbs… the best thing for a solar Hunter with the fan knives is to get the enemy low enough and just kill them with the knives because it’ll get you an Orb for the melee kill (if you got three stacks plenty of energy and can do it every second), they do more damage, and depending on your exotic you might be getting all sorts of bonuses like Shards of Ghalanor. On top of that your melee comes back with every kill.
Unfortunately the answer for most of these things are always no. Which is OK. Really just means something needs to change with the perk to bring it into a more useful territory instead of purposely handicapping yourself in comparison to what you could be running to show the perk has “potential.”
This isn’t a slight or a criticism of Spade either.
The part you're missing is a lot of those things you mentioned require kills. The build I was running just happened to be what I have equipped, and the video was more of an on purpose slow demo so people could see the orbs popping out.
The whole point of videos like this and Permeability is to get people to think outside the box a little more with perks. I even stated at the end that by no means is this an insane perk or an amazing perk. Just wanted to highlight its potential utility.
I also disagree with the sentiment, "Do we need more orbs?" You can never have too many orbs, IMO. And like I highlighted, they can proc fragments without requiring kills, which can come in handy in content where enemies are chunkier or your under leveled and weapons don't hit as hard.
Sure, with the fan of knives build I'm running. You could easily go without but on other builds. It is very useful. I just happened to have this build for an upcoming video.
Also, I'd never use this on special or heavy weapons, only primaries. Something I should of clarified up front.
I think the best example of this perk is on Multimach which can roll attrition orbs and kinetic tremors together. With Kinetic Tremors hits counting towards the hit requirements.
Otherwise, fair points. I just don't completely agree.
Eye of Another world solar warlock build is great with the Parabellum (Attrition Orbs, Heal Clip in the other slot to proc ember of benevolence). Instant abilities on tap. Orb stream tops up the regen on top of the mods and exotic and heat rises.
Oh yeah, that sounds amazing!
I totally agree that this is a great utility perk, but I do find it better on some weapons than others. Because it activates based on hitting a percentage of the magazine, weapons with high fire rates and small magazines can activate faster, which makes it feel more rewarding. So it feels great on a 900 smg like Parabellum, but less great on like a 450 auto. I'm really hoping to get that Attrition/Tremors Multimach this week 🤞if I do it's gonna be my main pve smg.
Oh yeah, absolutely. That's something I should have clarified upfront. Def would only use it on primaries and lower magazine weapons. I'm after the exact same Multimach roll myself lol.
This perk is even better now with prismatic and the new seasonal artifacts that rely on orb pickups
100%
Appetance/ceno lock I’ve used this perk with which is handy.
Dragoncult sickle can get slice/attrition orbs so I could see that tanking stuff with health on orb pick up but haven’t tried this yet.
Yeah, I'm not sure I'd use this on special weapons or large mag weapons. I think the main benefit is using low mag weapons like handcannons, sidearms, or smgs. But hey you could be onto something.
A weapon with this + Shoot to Loot would be a pretty cool combo.
Absolutely. On a scout rifle with such a low mag, you be procing it all the time.
Craft subjunctive from this seasons craftable weapons. It’s a 900rpm smg that can get enhanced shoot to loot/attrition orbs and it’s origin trait allows you to create 2-3 orbs without even reloading. Easily the most slept on PVE weapon in the game imo.
@michaelferrarini1463 good point!
I have this combo on parabellum and it's not as good as I would like. If shooting orbs refunded some ammo, it would be better and more viable.
I've been running it on my appetance trace, then picking up the orb with a shoot to loot primary. It's also funny on swords, I can just hold M1 and get an orb for heal and woven mail in less than 10secs
Oh, nice. Sounds like some fun weapons to try it on.
my cenotaph build uses a stl attrition parabellum and its prob the best build ive made, also got the new strand lmg w triple tap and surrounded so it can add clear while dps with the artifact perks, good until it kills the ones needed for surrounded
Nice!! Sounds like a nasty combo! I really want Parabellum with Rewind Round and Attrition Orbs myself.
I happen to have a interesting Parabellum roll; I'm still unsure how good it is though. Shoot To Loot + Attrition Orbs. It feels like SUCH a good roll in concept, but in practice what's holding back the combo is the fact I have it on a SMG. I mean, those bullets go FLYING.
I wonder if a more precise weapon would be better. Waking Vigil and Breakneck could roll these perks in separate columns, one being an adaptive hand cannon and the other being a precision autorifle.
Yeah that combo is probably better on a acout or handcannon. But on parabellum, if you spawn a bunch of orbs close but out of reach, it would still work pretty well. I myself am going for Rewind Rounds and Attrition Orbs on parabellum.
Seems like it would be a great company to with wave splitter! Can plan you amped wave better.
The one thing I'm really wonderingis if you were to get unraveling roundson a weapon with attrition orbs, can the unravel effect proc attrition orbs? Because unravel spreads like a wildfire very easily and it outputs a lot of continuous damage, could be an orb generating monster if unravel can proc attrition orbs.
The gameplay here I had unraveling rounds procced almost all the time because of the unraveling orbs seasonal mod. It didn't seem to make a difference, but I could be wrong. I did have some moments where more than one orb popped at a time.
Can you give me a timestamp? I tried to go back and skim through, but it looked like you were running solar parabellum for most of the gameplay. Doesn't it have to be strand in order for unraveling rounds to proc?
How does it work with reaper? Can u spawn an orb for hitting an enemy and another on kill?
It's separate from mods and fragments, but it can compliment and work with them. I actually talk about that in relation to advantage #3. And if you watch closely the build, I'm running spawns orbs on knife kills in addition to attrition spawning orbs in the gameplay.
Attrition orbs has always been a strong perk. Its just that the vocal majority wrote it off as trash because they wanted a damage perk and couldn't put 2 and 2 together on what could be done with it.
100% agree. Community tends to get stuck in old God Roll mindset, never branching out.
Im 99% sure the vocal majority dont do harder content or are absolute trash. Attrition orbs ARE a damage perk if you have surge mods on. You literally have 100% uptime on surge or stat mods.
@@CaptainGrapifier BINGO. they likley just follow streamer recommendations.
@@CaptainGrapifier I'd say that the vocal majority's combined knowledge in buildcrafting sums up to: Big gun that make boom + Exotic armour that make boom + 100 on as many stats as possible.
@@VRGUILEhahaha this is too trueeee
I think a key thing you didn't mention is on primary ammo weapons.
True. I did kind of imply that by only mentioning primary weapons.
@@AceInTheSpade yeah I noticed - comment mainly for those that didn't notice.
I still do think that it needs a buff since siphon mods are a bit more efficient
I see it as more of a compliment to those mods or fragments that also generate orbs.
Multimach CCX with Kinetic Tremors and Attrition Orbs, PLEASE GET ONE. I've been using it on Strand Warlock with the Thread of Warding, 100 strength and with the Eye of Another World. Legit unkillable with 15 sec Melee CDs, infinite weavewalk in PvE and PvP, with stupid Damage, please anyone try. Been using this build since Weavewalk came out, too good in legit ANYWHERE in the game.
That's exactly what I'm going for. That build sounds awesome, too!
honestly Multimach feels made for this combo. It really makes the gun 'come together' with field-tested and attrition orbs both stacking even faster from the extra hits with tremors, while 900 rpm SMGs already excel at utilizing all those hit-based perks. It might look like a meme-roll at first, but it's so synergistic that it becomes very powerful in its own niche.
@@krusel1454 100% agree. Devs new what they were doing.
I use the craftable bow with Attrition + Permeability and it works out really well. Yes its a bow but 5 shots = 1 orb. Mixed with being able to change its subclass, it's a really great utility pair if you're using a strand weapon for add clear and only need your primary for cleanup.
Though my Parabellum with Heal clip + Attrition Orbs is my most used weapon this season. Healing off kills and a reload as well as producing orbs to also heal? Its helped carry me in a lot of content.
Nice! Yeah, utility perks are slept on. I love Parabellum it not only has great perks, but it just feels so satisfying to use.
I already have ways to make a ton of orbs. Making an extra orb isn’t worth a perk slot.
Never said it's a must use perk. Simply pointed out, it has more utility than people realize. If it's not for you, then cool. 👍
Got this on indebted and I love it
Oh, nice. 👍
Can you imagine this in combo with thresh
Oh my gosh. That be insane. Especially with enhanced thresh.