What Does Sauron Look Like in the Books? Sauron Reveals Himself!

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  • čas přidán 7. 03. 2024
  • Have you ever asked yourself, what does Sauron look like under his armour? Or, what does Sauron look like under his helmet? In this video we will remove his mask and discover the true essence of his terrible countenance.
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  • @BurningGhosts
    @BurningGhosts Před 29 dny +10

    This man should be a narrator, voice artist, or possibly author.

  • @mathijnd
    @mathijnd Před měsícem +20

    Im fine with the idea of The Eye on Barad Dur for the movies. But i do wish we got at least one really short scene with a spiritlike broken human in a dark room with a palantier. The room is so dark that you cant really see him but you know its Sauron.
    So at least he IS there but he is watching from his tower. In the movies it seems like he isnt even there... its just a big fire eye.
    EDIT:
    OR just show a really short quick clip of a pale hand with scars and a missing finger on top of a palantir. Just tease that he is there watching.

    • @snorreproductions
      @snorreproductions Před měsícem

      there was a deleted scene/altered scene at the end where they fight outside the black gate. Aragorn was supposed to be fighting Sauron and not a giant troll

    • @mathijnd
      @mathijnd Před měsícem +1

      @@snorreproductions Yeah i know. I just wish we at least got A confirmation that it’s not JUST a flaming eye.
      The Aragorn fight probably wouldve been too much. 😅

    • @vintagesteel
      @vintagesteel Před měsícem

      This is a good idea 👌 I wish we got a look at him in the PJ films.

  • @Ryan-vl2nn
    @Ryan-vl2nn Před 2 měsíci +132

    Man even Morgoth didn’t incur the wrath of Eru Ilúvatar within the material plane of Middle Earth. Sauron must have really crossed a line.

    • @morgothfromangband6082
      @morgothfromangband6082 Před 2 měsíci +23

      Probably Morgoth would sooner or later also have started a war with Valinor when he thinks his forces could have become powerful enough, if the Valar hadn't intervened in the War of Wrath.

    • @poisonhemlock
      @poisonhemlock Před 2 měsíci +6

      Numenor was Eru's gift to his favourite kids, but it was looking kinda doomed already.

    • @forgettable8300
      @forgettable8300 Před 2 měsíci +2

      He could have xD

    • @Jmaurice82
      @Jmaurice82 Před 2 měsíci +12

      I mean Eru had to tell the Valar to go after Melkor to save the elves. I would say Melkor crossed the line during his time more than Sauron ever did lol

    • @NuisanceMan
      @NuisanceMan Před 2 měsíci +4

      It was the Numenorians who triggered the wrath; Sauron only advised.

  • @Uncle_Fred
    @Uncle_Fred Před 2 měsíci +92

    I think there's even more we can infer from understanding Sauron's nature. As a student of Aulë that preferred order, he probably gravitated to more refined and structured clothing and armor designs. A lot of the imagery we see of the classic "dark lord" design is more suited to Morgoth's vistage rather than Sauron's. Morgoth was nihilistic and wished to mock, warp, destroy and terrorize. We know that Sauron did emulate his old master, but we don't know exactly how much he might have emulated his form and style.
    Another counterpoint is Sauron's desire to hoard Arda's supply of Mithril. He must have known of Mithril's protective properties. We also know that Sauron chiefly fears bodily destruction by the end of the Third Age. What is the likelihood that Sauron crafted a Mithril set of armor? If he were to gain the ring again, a full-body suit of Mithril would all but ensure he would be untouchable. Mithril's dazzling mirror-like properties would also render him an object of worship, something I'm sure he would appreciate.

    • @Uncle_Fred
      @Uncle_Fred Před 2 měsíci +16

      @@olerocker3470 I'd guess that Sauron assumed he'd recover the mithril coat once his forces defeated Aragorn's expedition. The psychological value of returning it was worth the risk. It was a brilliant move. Aragorn's defeat was assured and his forces surrounded. There was no escape.

    • @olerocker3470
      @olerocker3470 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@Uncle_Fred woulda, shoulda, coulda

    • @melizeche
      @melizeche Před 2 měsíci +5

      Do you recall where in the books is described Sauron's desire to hoard all the mithril? It seems I missed that part

    • @DamonNomad82
      @DamonNomad82 Před 2 měsíci +17

      @@melizeche It's in Book 2 of Volume 1, in the chapter "A Journey in the Dark". As the Fellowship travels through Moria, Gandalf tells the others about mithril, and mentions that when the orcs took over Moria, they sent the mithril they plundered from the Dwarves' treasuries there "as tribute to Sauron, who covets it."

    • @melizeche
      @melizeche Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@DamonNomad82 THANK YOU! 🙌🏻

  • @vergil8833
    @vergil8833 Před měsícem +4

    Based on everything I think it's safe to conclude that Sauron did in fact have burning eyes, considering the fear the numenoreans had for the "light in his eyes", and the red description of his serpent eyes in Lord of the Rings, coupled with Tolkiens own painting showing Sauron with orange eyes peering out from his helmet. Burning eyes like that is a striking image, so therefore I really wonder why not more of the artists why draw Sauron include it. It is his most important feature in my opinion, the concept art Peter Jackson had for Saurons face is to this day the best depiction of it.

  • @Egill2011
    @Egill2011 Před měsícem +12

    In books Sauron has material form. He does not appear in the form of that huge lighthouse, as Peter Jackson has shown him in his films. Gollum says that Sauron has only nine fingers on his dark hands, so he is not just a spirit, craving materialization.

    • @fueledbylove
      @fueledbylove Před měsícem +1

      Good Call. Ive never been too fond of Peters Lighthouse as you pointed out.

  • @brocklawer7635
    @brocklawer7635 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Tolkien did do a watercolor illustration of Sauron and it looks a lot like him from the movies.

  • @cerberus6654
    @cerberus6654 Před 2 měsíci +7

    This was a gripping, gorgeous post! Thank you.

  • @TarMody
    @TarMody Před 2 měsíci +6

    As they await the arrival of the Children of Ilúvatar, it seems possible that they look close to an elf because they sense that they have a humanoid form, as far as they perceive from the vision created with music, but it cannot be said that they have an elf or human form in appearance. This also applies to Mairon, who spent some time in Almaren.

    • @neil999ish
      @neil999ish Před 2 měsíci +2

      To me that the Ainur and Mair could take any form they wanted wether Elven, Man or Natural element.
      Sauron 'appeared' in a fair form and decieved the Elves when the Rings were forged. Yet in the Silmarrilion he took form as a Werewolf and Bat (Fingol and Beren's quest for a Silmaril).
      When Sauron corrupted Ar Pharazon and Numenor was drowned he lost his mortal body and could not take a 'fair' form again. When the One ring was destroyed he could not take any form, but remained as spirit gnawing in the darkness.

    • @johns1625
      @johns1625 Před 2 měsíci +2

      "Now the Ainur took to themselves shape and hue; and because they were drawn into the world by their love for the Children of Illuvatar, they took shape after that manner which they had beheld in the vision of Illuvatar, save only in majesty and splendour. Moreover their shape comes from the knowledge of the visible world, rather than that of the world it's self, and they need it not; save only as we need raiment, and yet we may be naked and suffer no loss of our being. Therefore, the Valar may walk, if they would, unclad. And then even the Eldar cannot clearly perceive them, though they may be present, but when they desire to cloth themselves the Valar take upon them forms some as of male and some as of female; for that difference of temper they had even in their beginning, and it is but budded forth in that choice, yet not made by that choice, even as with us male and female may be shown by the raiment but is not made thereby. But the shapes wherein the great ones array themselves are not at all times like to the shapes of the kings and queens of the Children of Illuvatar; for at times they may clothe themselves in their own thought, made visible in forms of majesty and dread."

  • @mjk2588
    @mjk2588 Před 20 dny

    Your videos are my absolute favorites. I lovvve the content and have listened to many similar channels but this is by far the best. The narration and tone, the artwork, the delivery, and everything are so perfect. I have been listening every night for both information and as relaxation during a very stressful time.

  • @whynot1548
    @whynot1548 Před 20 dny

    Great narration bro. Love it! 😎👍🧙‍♂️

  • @sethnaffziger1402
    @sethnaffziger1402 Před 2 měsíci +45

    The most smoothbrained take I have ever heard is that Sauron was a boring villian... Anything but, Lawful evil isn't as immediately as threatening as chaotic, however it is the most sinister, dangerous, and insidious form... the one most likely to succeed in the real world as well

    • @mediocreman6323
      @mediocreman6323 Před 2 měsíci +2

      So he … wears a suit and a tie?

    • @sethnaffziger1402
      @sethnaffziger1402 Před 2 měsíci +9

      @@mediocreman6323 Nah, he just sees a righteous cause for his actions, this justifies whatever ends he must take to achieve his designs and plans because in the end he is right and sees it no other way. Many great evils have been committed through the ages under the assumption that it was for the ultimate good. The other thing that makes it dangerous is how easy it is for otherwise good people to support such a leader. Many men were under Sauron's banner and saw the destruction Men of the West as a necessary end they would help engineer

    • @AJ0223
      @AJ0223 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Yeah he's a just a typical boring dark lord and bad ass aragon is just a typical hetero normative white guy and it's all just typically boring good vs evil and I just like more complex and believable charecters I mean ffs there's hardly any incest or rape or child abuse in LOTR there's almost zero graphic gratititous depictions of gross sexyal activity in the whole text that's why asoif is top tier so what that it will never be finished at leat its not boring

    • @kalebthehistorian5928
      @kalebthehistorian5928 Před 2 měsíci +2

      If THAT is what you think makes a great story, then you clearly can't see what is right in front of your nose. Why does there need to be incest and rape? Tolkien was a man with a vision, his stories hailing back to times long gone, yet given life through his medium. Not every story must be filled with debauchery for it to be good.

    • @AJ0223
      @AJ0223 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@kalebthehistorian5928 sarcasm bro

  • @GlintzKollide
    @GlintzKollide Před měsícem +1

    Excellent video!

  • @Beardblade
    @Beardblade Před 2 měsíci +5

    Thank you for the video it was great

  • @capt.tripps
    @capt.tripps Před 2 měsíci +1

    Wonderful video.

  • @tomwinston6758
    @tomwinston6758 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Very good, enjoyable

  • @chrgans4619
    @chrgans4619 Před 6 dny

    Could you name or credit the artists who created the shown pictures in the video. They are realy good, i would love to see there other work. Realy loved to video, magnificent work!

  • @anthonyintexas
    @anthonyintexas Před 2 měsíci

    I recently subscribed to this channel.. I like it very much, & it is a wonderful companion to Tolkien Untangled.

  • @shannonpincombe8485
    @shannonpincombe8485 Před 2 měsíci

    Brilliant!

  • @angelalewis3645
    @angelalewis3645 Před měsícem

    Very good video!

  • @backgroundnoise9310
    @backgroundnoise9310 Před 2 měsíci

    Great vid.

  • @elizabethtaylor8428
    @elizabethtaylor8428 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Thanks for the video. I've always found Sauron intriguing.

    • @anubusx
      @anubusx Před 2 měsíci

      Him and Morgoth are the greatest villians in Fantasy literature.

  • @whynot1548
    @whynot1548 Před měsícem

    Oh that Sauron, he's always been a caution! ☺

  • @Fossilsaurus1020
    @Fossilsaurus1020 Před 2 měsíci +4

    It’s ironic that his most terrible appearing, and fearful form was his weakest, “most impotent form”!

    • @94462
      @94462 Před měsícem

      He is over-compensating his appearance to hide 🫣 his weaknesses. Sun Tzu art of war, “appear strong 💪 when you are weak”, he knew all of these secrets of war

  • @dimoslaros724
    @dimoslaros724 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Exceptional content. Fantastic work! Congrats to you and the team!

  • @Heartborne7thSeeker
    @Heartborne7thSeeker Před 2 měsíci +1

    personally I have always imagined him looking somewhat like the picture at 5:26 and that was also very similar to what Peter Jackson wanted him to look like in the scene that was sadly cut from The Return of the King movie,but can still be seen here on youtube.I could also see him looking like the picture at 8:05 when he takes the form of the warrior.

  • @sith014
    @sith014 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Please tell me you are also selling digital wallpapers of these artworks. That first wallpaper of Sauron is amazing!

  • @yammt3148
    @yammt3148 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I truly, TRULY wish some of this art was official cannon.

  • @channel.3.
    @channel.3. Před 2 měsíci

    What a great description!
    One question: Did Sauron have the One Ring when he was taken as a prisoner to Numenor? How did he get it back to Mordor if he fled as a spirit?

  • @amfa42
    @amfa42 Před 2 měsíci +1

    what's the background song name?! it's amaIng

  • @anadmirer8789
    @anadmirer8789 Před měsícem

    I wish with all my heart that I could write epic stories as great as this.

    • @Disappointment42
      @Disappointment42 Před měsícem

      Best you get started then

    • @anadmirer8789
      @anadmirer8789 Před měsícem

      I started years ago. My story ideas just don’t match Tolkien’s scope and brilliance.

    • @Disappointment42
      @Disappointment42 Před měsícem

      @@anadmirer8789 Well keep at it, you have your own brilliance :)

  • @josephpercy1558
    @josephpercy1558 Před měsícem

    It is worth mentioning that 'zigûr' simply means 'wizard' in Adûnaic, the language of the Northmen and of Eriador, including many others of close kin affiliation. Mairon was, therefore, "the Great Wizard" for his marked skill in magic amongst the race of Men.

  • @michaelh5720
    @michaelh5720 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Incredible channel 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @Neenerella333
    @Neenerella333 Před dnem

    So in the second age, he looked like Pete Steele?

  • @CybeleCotter
    @CybeleCotter Před 2 měsíci +3

    Myron Maia, Dark Tower Butchers, 666 Mordor Blvd., Brooklyn, NY

  • @Kakaragi
    @Kakaragi Před 2 měsíci +1

    So, would Annatar look like Sephiroth?

  • @kimwilson3863
    @kimwilson3863 Před 2 měsíci

    An interesting and well presented channel with exceptionally beautiful artwork. It is a shame that a bot is used to voice it as it has American pronunciations but that's a minor detail. It would be nice to have more information about the author of this channel and insight into person or team behind it. I have subscribed and shall see how it goes.

    • @dyroth
      @dyroth Před 2 měsíci

      Wtf I couldn’t even tell it was a bot, we’re so fucked

    • @kimwilson3863
      @kimwilson3863 Před 2 měsíci

      @@dyroth lol yeah it's creepy that they're so good now. The new robots are incredible too. Brave new world is here.

  • @ChrisWizzerd
    @ChrisWizzerd Před 2 měsíci +2

    Sauron is a skin walker!? 😳

  • @mikedeck8381
    @mikedeck8381 Před měsícem

    It doesn't matter what he looked like. After he betrayed the elves in the middle of the second age he could never fool them again. However he could still fool dwarves and me. After the whole thing with Numenor he was unable to fool them, they saw him for what he was. He still had human followers but they served out of greed, fear or hatred. He could've been perfectly handsome under that helmet but I think people sort of miss the point.

  • @GCJACK83
    @GCJACK83 Před 2 měsíci

    When I think about the book version of Sauron, for some reason I can't help but think of a shadow-looking creature, roughly humanoid but taller, and it's face has nothing except a massive eye dead center.

  • @Nikanoru
    @Nikanoru Před 2 měsíci

    His two names are related too, with the "thau" in gorthaur being the "sau" in sauron. They're just from different elven languages.

  • @mattharrison2330
    @mattharrison2330 Před 15 dny

    so fucking awesome pleasse doo moooreee!

  • @sartanko
    @sartanko Před 2 měsíci +4

    wtf, a youtube video explaining a book character have no right being this damn good.

  • @CausticLemons7
    @CausticLemons7 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Sauron is a jerk!

  • @Mentallect
    @Mentallect Před 2 měsíci +13

    8 feet tall, long blonde hair, bright blue eyes, thinnish.

    • @howardrisby9621
      @howardrisby9621 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I see Sir .... and does the gentleman in question have any distinguishing marks? 👮

    • @benjammin9471
      @benjammin9471 Před měsícem

      I knew there was something odd about Finland

  • @beerasaurus
    @beerasaurus Před 2 měsíci

    That was some amazing art on display. Just when I thought I was done hearing the same lore over again there's a new way to listen.

  • @Canario_27
    @Canario_27 Před 2 měsíci

    So basically an even more handsomeHerny calvin

  • @forgettable8300
    @forgettable8300 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Imagine thinking you are super op and then getting your ass handed to you by a hound xD

    • @jackolantern147
      @jackolantern147 Před měsícem +1

      In his defense, that hound has written in plot armor.

  • @isthatjackson
    @isthatjackson Před měsícem

    All hail #SexySauron

  • @skytyme7721
    @skytyme7721 Před 2 měsíci

    Melcor was originally called Melco

    • @fueledbylove
      @fueledbylove Před měsícem

      But it was speeled Melkor with a K

  • @uriustosh
    @uriustosh Před 2 měsíci +3

    He looks like Whoopi Goldberg.

    • @odeleon24
      @odeleon24 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Blasphemy!!

    • @MM22966
      @MM22966 Před 2 měsíci +3

      It is Dark LORD, not Dark Lard.

    • @jamesmacleod671
      @jamesmacleod671 Před 2 měsíci

      Amazon's ring's of power agrees 😂

    • @LTPottenger
      @LTPottenger Před měsícem

      The lord who favors the color durple

  • @joefarrow1599
    @joefarrow1599 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Sauron denies black body emission laws. The power to stand against the laws of thermodynamics really is truly terrible

  • @Pub2k4
    @Pub2k4 Před měsícem

    Sauron didn’t look like anything in the book. There were no pictures.

  • @Cross-xm2fr
    @Cross-xm2fr Před 2 měsíci

    Lol dark lord was beaten by a dog

  • @saladinbob
    @saladinbob Před 2 měsíci +21

    You presume Sauron _wore_ Armour. I think it's more likely that the armour was an aspect of the form he sheathed himself in making it far more durable than we mortals might don.

    • @Crafty_Spirit
      @Crafty_Spirit Před 2 měsíci +2

      Turtle Sauron sounds like a very uncomfortable shape to take though, a Smith and Artisan needs to have free mobility in his arms and legs

    • @KjMiller420
      @KjMiller420 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Whu do you presume based on others presumptions?

    • @DigitalSystematic
      @DigitalSystematic Před 2 měsíci +1

      No I think it is you who presume too much

  • @whynottalklikeapirat
    @whynottalklikeapirat Před 2 měsíci

    Sauron was an avid pirate - hence his glowing aye 👌

  • @lordofchaosinc.261
    @lordofchaosinc.261 Před 2 měsíci

    If you read the book it somewhere literally says he's the shape of a tall and terrible man or something like it not unlike his movie apperance at the battle of the last alliance. It is also said he can no longer take a fair shape like Annatar after the demise of his flesh in Numenor. He definitely isn't a goofy disembodied floating eyeball.

  • @justinah7400
    @justinah7400 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Fingolfin would have slew Sauron by himself and likely wouldn't even need to sacrifice himself for the deed

    • @LTPottenger
      @LTPottenger Před měsícem

      But he would not be able to resist the ring.

  • @cally77777
    @cally77777 Před 2 měsíci

    This video is ultimately accurate, in that it reveals we know very few details of Sauron's appearance, but for the most part, we are given a general impression. So we know he had an original fair form which eventually changes to a dark, terrible lord. It unveils Sauron only in this sense. But kudos for strictly sticking to the descriptions in the books, which are almost entirely impressionistic. The only real detail is the missing finger from which the Ring was cut.
    Tolkien has left Sauron's appearance very much to our imagination, and this has inspired a lot of fan art, some of which is nicely reproduced here. Just don't mistake it for Sauron's actual form.

  • @miashinbrot8388
    @miashinbrot8388 Před 2 měsíci

    Note: the pictures of Sauron in which he is red-haired (rather than having black or blond hair) show him with scarlet hair, not crimson. Crimson is the dark, slightly purplish red of burgundy wine; scarlet is bright orange-red.

  • @Smee86
    @Smee86 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Did they have a saur on their ankle or a saur on their leg or did they have a dinosaur?

  • @Crafty_Spirit
    @Crafty_Spirit Před 2 měsíci +2

    7:36 Yeah well Ar-Pharazôn did not participate in the War of Elves and Sauron, you are doing a time condensation here like in Rings of Power xD

  • @know_not_wickedness
    @know_not_wickedness Před měsícem

    So Sauron is a transgender?

  • @rrgale55
    @rrgale55 Před 2 měsíci

    CAN YOU REFERENCE THIS SCENE?
    PRIEST: "We are gathered here today to witness the turning to evil, Myron the Dark Lord of....
    Myron? Your name is Myron?"
    SAURON: "SHUT-UP!! SHUT-UP!! Continue with the ceremony."
    PRIEST (trying to hold back his laughter): "OK, ....Myron."

  • @cycklist
    @cycklist Před 2 měsíci +2

    Why do you say 'lieutenant' the American way?

    • @NickFama
      @NickFama Před 2 měsíci +9

      Because that is the way the artificial intelligence he uses pronounces it. This is not a real person speaking and it seems to have fooled many people.

    • @Patcannistan
      @Patcannistan Před 2 měsíci +4

      Because there’s no F.

    • @ardaea2529
      @ardaea2529 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@Patcannistan The pronunciation of lieutenant predates the existence of your country. Comes from Old French, luef.

  • @greywolf850
    @greywolf850 Před 2 měsíci +1

    So Sauron is Lucifer… that’s understandable… a light being who transforms and turns dark….

    • @grannypunany3114
      @grannypunany3114 Před 2 měsíci +10

      no, melkor is the equivalent to lucifer

    • @Edam-Channel
      @Edam-Channel Před 2 měsíci

      More like Abaddon, Satan, Beelzebub, Asmodeus - one of the traditional demons serving Lucifer. Though modern Christianity (and Hollywood) tends to combine all of these into one entity.

    • @siegfriedc2332
      @siegfriedc2332 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Sauron sounds more like Loki.

    • @blaze_4280
      @blaze_4280 Před 2 měsíci +3

      ​@@grannypunany3114exactly sauron more of the anti Christ a step down from the devil

  • @kyleshurmur-dg3kq
    @kyleshurmur-dg3kq Před 2 měsíci

    Sauron was not inherently evil he wanted order and control he knew the world was unstable chaotic and unpredictable so he wanted to be incharge to control eveything and eventually be worshipped he just went about it wrong 😂😂

    • @Randy.Bobandy
      @Randy.Bobandy Před 2 měsíci +2

      He was intentionally cruel and malicious though.

  • @ToxicGamer86454
    @ToxicGamer86454 Před 2 měsíci

    18 minutes to explain how dude looks? I’m out

  • @DD-zh4by
    @DD-zh4by Před 2 měsíci

    Tolkien is so dry... theres no blood in the veins of this story. Just a dull list of names. Without Peter Jackson we'd just look at it as a stepping stone to better story telling. Sorry for this truth nuke.

    • @howardrisby9621
      @howardrisby9621 Před 2 měsíci

      Of blood and guts, I suspect Tolkein had his fill in the carnage of the trench warfare of WWI in which he served.

    • @Randy.Bobandy
      @Randy.Bobandy Před 2 měsíci +2

      One of the most stupid and ignorant comments I've ever read.

    • @Alexs.2599
      @Alexs.2599 Před měsícem

      That's not a truth that's just your opinion. And I strongly disagree with your statement.

    • @fueledbylove
      @fueledbylove Před měsícem

      @@Alexs.2599 I would think that generally if an author describes something in a sparse manner they are giving the reader an opportunity to piece together a mental image using their own imagination within the context of the narrative.
      And then there is also a certain entertainment that comes from deliberate use of mystery - that very often drives the reader to carry on and finish their book. lol.

    • @Alexs.2599
      @Alexs.2599 Před měsícem

      @@fueledbylove I agree, I think that is a very accurate assessment of his works. That is what I love about Tolkien's legendarium, there is enough unsaid that you can deep dive into your imagination to fill the blanks in the story.

  • @Rubythroatedhummingbird

    You may never know but Sauron is known to take forms that reflects his ideals and values maybe even his feelings. He’s also known to rebuild a new body for himself after one is destroyed. It all depends who he is dealing with. He wouldn’t look the same towards the race of men the way he looked when he was in Eregion during the forging of the rings of power and vice versa. I would say the same with dwarves and wizards. But in the end they all knew him as the shadow. Personally I never quite liked the armoured version he is in Peter Jackson’s movies because he just comes off like a puppet at times.