The Fate of the Ringwraiths: What Happened to the Nazgûl after the Witch King Fell in Battle?

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  • Dive deep into the shadowy realms of Middle-earth with our latest exploration: "The Fate of the Ringwraiths: What Happened to the Nazgûl after the Witch King Fell in Battle?"
    Let me be your guide through the J.R.R. Tolkien's universe, as we unravel the aftermath of the epic Battle of the Pelennor Fields. Beyond the climactic moment when the Witch-King met his fate, what transpired with the remaining Nazgûl?
    Be sure to join the discussion in the comments as I always enjoy hearing your opinions and theories. Just be careful not to mention anything about Balrogs having wings otherwise you may be in for some trouble with some other viewers!
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  • @RealmsUnravelled
    @RealmsUnravelled  Před 5 měsíci +247

    Hello all! I have received a number of comments stating that, as the Nazgul were once living men, they would have passed to the Halls of Mandos for judgement and not into The Void. The following is an excerpt from the Return of the King: ‘You cannot enter here,’ said Gandalf, and the huge shadow halted. ‘Go back to the abyss prepared for you! Go back! Fall into the nothingness that awaits you and your Master. Go!’ This piece of dialogue led me to the conclusion in this video. I now realise that I should have included this in the video but as this was only my 2nd upload I am still learning! Thanks for all of your comments, I am already putting a lot of constructive criticism to good use in the future videos that I am currently working on!

    • @MOColumbia
      @MOColumbia Před 5 měsíci +9

      "They crackled, withered and went out" their souls/spirits were released from the fire that had sustained their manifested form, and they passed to judgement, and they went where the souls/spirits of men go according to their judgment. What Gandalf referred to was the expected judgement of the souls/spirits of men whom covet power and whose lust for power wholly corrupted them. To an Abyss, a Nothingness, you could say unmade.

    • @Mr.LaughingDuck
      @Mr.LaughingDuck Před 5 měsíci

      This guy is a total fake and a joke. As noted before, Tolkien clearly states without ambiguity that they got caught up Mt. Doom's explosions and burnt up into nothingness. Nothing about how they felt or even their individual names. This video is basically one pulled out of his ass.

    • @theeffete3396
      @theeffete3396 Před 4 měsíci +13

      The caveat here is that the Balrog is a Maia. It's erroneous to attribute Gandalf's speech as also applying to Men (however corrupted they may have become). Additionally, the "Master" being referred to here is more than likely Morgoth, as the Balrog never served Sauron. There is also some ambiguity about what is meant by "the nothingness that awaits," since Morgoth had already been cast through the Door of Night; he's not awaiting that fate. It's possible that Gandalf is referring to the aftermath of Dagor Dagorath (The Battle to end all Battles), where a Second Song would be made and Arda completely reformed, without Melkor and his minions.
      Also, it's worth examining Tolkien's own beliefs. He sincerely believed that no being was beyond redemption, and even struggled with the notion that orcs were irreparably evil. It's why he never actually settled on an origin story for them, going from corrupted elves to corrupted Men, to "uplifted" beasts. It was entirely an editorial decision for Christopher to use the elf-origin in the Silmarilion since that was the most completed work (though not the latest chronologically). Point being, the Nazgul were unquestionably Men, and thus undoubtedly not beyond redemption in Tolkien's eyes. They would almost surely be given a chance to repent in the halls of Mandos before getting wisked away to wherever the féa of Men go.

    • @Stormbringer2012
      @Stormbringer2012 Před 4 měsíci +1

      What would happen if a ring wraith fought one those ghosts in the Return of the King?

    • @MOColumbia
      @MOColumbia Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@Stormbringer2012 Interesting question. The Nazgul were virtually the same thing, spirits/ghosts trapped in this world whose mortal bodies had perished long ago. the only real difference is that the Nazgul were 9 kings who possessed the Nine rings of men.
      But it is understood that Aragorn did not take the Army of the Dead to Mordor because of possible corruption of the dead by Sauron, i.e. he may have been able to turn them against the forces of Gondor.

  • @andrewwilliams2353
    @andrewwilliams2353 Před 6 měsíci +561

    Tolkien specifically states that, caught up in the ruin of Orodruin, the Nazgul "crackled, withered and went out" like lights ! Where does a candle flame go when it is blown out ? Well that's where the Nazgul went !

    • @Shauma_llama
      @Shauma_llama Před 6 měsíci +41

      That's what I thought, they went down in flames when the mountain blew up.

    • @ReffaDay
      @ReffaDay Před 5 měsíci +28

      I'm by no means knowledgeable in this lore, but if the candle was lit in the darkness then into the darkness it will return waiting to be lit again.

    • @jacobfreeman5444
      @jacobfreeman5444 Před 5 měsíci +7

      They went to the same fate as their master. But unlike him they are unlikely to return. Why spend power on failed servants?

    • @Valdagast
      @Valdagast Před 5 měsíci +27

      They went to the halls of Mandos for further travel outside the circles of the World. We don't know what happens to men after their death.

    • @theeffete3396
      @theeffete3396 Před 5 měsíci +58

      @jacobfreeman5444 No, they did not share Sauron's fate. Sauron was doomed to wander the world, a spirit of malice and hate, but utterly powerless. The Nazgul were men, kept undead by the power of the rings. When the rings failed, the Nazgul finally died and went where all men go when they they die, which only Eru Iluvatar knows for certain.

  • @tedetienne7639
    @tedetienne7639 Před 5 měsíci +148

    Tolkien spoke of the gift of death given to men. I think no one ever saw that gift so inviting and releasing as the Nazgul did.

    • @brissygirl4997
      @brissygirl4997 Před 4 měsíci +28

      I think the undead men that worked with Aragorn against the Corsairs might have felt relief and pretty free once they were released from finally fulfilling the oath they'd sworn to Isildur.

  • @michaelmcleary8566
    @michaelmcleary8566 Před 6 měsíci +381

    They bummed around for a few millennia then got hired by Warner Bros to act as the Dementors in Harry Potter!

  • @ejd53
    @ejd53 Před 6 měsíci +111

    "They crackled, withered and went out". I think that pretty much says it all.

    • @jakening6144
      @jakening6144 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Could cut 8 minutes off the video with that.

    • @sir_cahstic3637
      @sir_cahstic3637 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I believe you dropped this, King 💍

  • @franciscopena5808
    @franciscopena5808 Před 4 měsíci +34

    You got me thinking. If the Valar once forgave Sauron for his alliance with Melkor, why not also extend the mercy to the ringwraiths, whose transgressions where minor compared to Sauron's. Also considering that Sauron's allegiance to Melkor was willing, but the Nazgul were decieved and bound unwillingly to Sauron.Very nice channel BTW.

    • @HolyNickTheHobbit
      @HolyNickTheHobbit Před měsícem +5

      I remember them being willing to forgive him but he still had to serve judgement for his crimes and then sauron decided that since he would have to be punished for his crimes, similar to how melkor was the first time, he didn't want this and he ran away

  • @alexstewart9747
    @alexstewart9747 Před 4 měsíci +15

    I think Tolkien left an air of mystery about the Nazgûl to fire the imagination in readers.
    Reading The Fall of Gondolin left me in awe of his writing.

  • @henrya3530
    @henrya3530 Před 5 měsíci +106

    I heard one of them opened a successful chain of ethnic fast food outlets for orcs. Surprisingly popular with rich human and elf kids who are 'slumming it' while backpacking in Mordor during their gap year.

  • @NickysVibe
    @NickysVibe Před 4 měsíci +20

    This is fantastic. Not just your theory, but the eloquence with which you expressed it. Beautiful writing and orating. Thank you.

    • @unOrigiNik
      @unOrigiNik Před 4 měsíci +7

      I'm 50/50 on whether this is high quality AI generated content, or just a well spoken gentleman

    • @Paisly_
      @Paisly_ Před 4 měsíci +7

      @@unOrigiNikIts AI as are the Images

  • @michaelfisher7170
    @michaelfisher7170 Před 6 měsíci +78

    They were unnaturally bound to the world through the Ring's power...but they were men. When the ring went into the fire that power ended..they were freed from it and would have done as any other human..their spirits would have sought the halls of Mandos and from there would have passed beyond the circles of the world. What happened then?

    • @RealmsUnravelled
      @RealmsUnravelled  Před 6 měsíci +56

      Thank you for your comment! Your point of view is the logical conclusion for those well versed in LOTR lore however, the following quote from the Return of the King is the reason I believe that the Ringwraiths would be sent to the void and not to the halls of Mandos:
      “You can not enter here,” said Gandalf, and the huge shadow halted. “Go back to the abyss prepared for you! Go back! Fall into the nothingness that awaits you and your Master. Go!”
      I believe this was Gandalf telling the Witch King that he would not be granted the gift of men upon his demise. This could have course been a clever tactic utilised by Gandalf in order to demoralise the Witch King but I found it convincing enough to base this video around the wraiths being sent into the expanse of the void. Thanks again for contributing to this fascinating discussion!

    • @therealfakeAlphabet
      @therealfakeAlphabet Před 6 měsíci +18

      @@RealmsUnravelled in their present forms yes, but once released from the thrall of Sauron, I think their souls would pass into the halls of Mandos for judgement. Tolkien did not seem like someone who thought that people were irredeemably evil with no chance of salvation.

    • @brucetucker4847
      @brucetucker4847 Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@RealmsUnravelled I think the abyss prepared for them was Hell. Neither Morgoth nor Sauron could take the Gift of Men from them (only put it off), but they are still subject to judgment when they leave the world.

    • @jacobfreeman5444
      @jacobfreeman5444 Před 5 měsíci

      Their fates were tied to Sauron. So I can only imagine they fell into the wraith realm with him. Seems the gift of man was not denied them but even so they could not survive the destruction of the one ring. Too much of what they were was taken by its power. The only mercy they could recieve was to not haunt the world as a powerless shade like their former master unto the end of the world.

    • @stefaniebraun3319
      @stefaniebraun3319 Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@@RealmsUnravelledChanging the final destination of the Ringwraiths would open a way for Sauron (or Melkor) to nullify the gift of men, but we are specifically told by Tolkien, that they could not do that. Maybe it was the nothingness of the void, as long, as they were bound to Middle Earth due to the ring, and true death afterwards.

  • @robertblackmore703
    @robertblackmore703 Před 5 měsíci +16

    You’ve got a great voice for narration. Thank you.

  • @KevDaly
    @KevDaly Před 6 měsíci +63

    It doesn't seem all that mysterious if you read the Return of the King: "And into the heart of the storm, with a cry that pierced all other sounds, tearing the clouds asunder, the Nazgûl came, shooting like flaming bolts, as caught in the fiery ruin of hill and sky they crackled, withered, and went out." I don't think they had a lot of time for reflection before going to the fate prepared for them.

    • @jimmyboy131
      @jimmyboy131 Před 5 měsíci +9

      So in other words, they finally died, and left this world.

    • @theeffete3396
      @theeffete3396 Před 5 měsíci

      Well, they'll have plenty of time for reflection as they await judgment in the Halls of Mandos, before finally being claimed by Eru Iluvatar.

    • @surferbeto
      @surferbeto Před 5 měsíci +8

      I am.surprised that the author of this video did not make any reference at all to what is written in Canon about what happens to the Nazgul. Not sure where he got the specific info he presents- like the original names of wraiths other than the Witch King. Maybe from some other apocryphal Tolkien texts? But this would have been a pretty short video if he had simply referenced the passage you quoted from the end of Book 6, Chapter 3 (Mount Doom) in Return Of The King. They "crackled, withered and went out." After reading that I had no further questions.

    • @ArawnOfAnnwn
      @ArawnOfAnnwn Před 4 měsíci

      @@jimmyboy131 Left for where is the question. They were men, and that would mean they should be bound for the Hall of Mandos. There is another place they could go - that of the Void - that this video is suggesting they went to. It isn't clear which of those they went to.

    • @gojewla
      @gojewla Před 4 měsíci

      Yes. I don’t know where all these fan theories came from. Just read the book!

  • @nicholasmaude6906
    @nicholasmaude6906 Před 6 měsíci +40

    I really wish that Tolkien had gone into detail about the Ringwraiths, who they were before they got their rings, their changes after receiving their rings and afterwards. Not all of the men who received their rings were good either.

    • @matthewfors114
      @matthewfors114 Před 5 měsíci +9

      it adds to the mystique though, makes them scarier that we can only imagine who they were

    • @TorianTammas
      @TorianTammas Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@matthewfors114 After being unable to find the ring as they were 5 meter away and thrn beaten by Hobbits and a single man and thrn beaten again by water. They are as scary as toast.

    • @umitencho
      @umitencho Před 5 měsíci +1

      There are hints that there are notes left behind by Tolkien, that his son Christopher, that put to a book. The biggest hint being the description of Morgoth's Ring and how he bound himself to middle earth. There could be manuscripts complete or incomplete about the ring wraith's history that are still locked away. I think the mystique and the speculation of who they were is what keeps these papers from ever being released if they exist.

    • @matthewfors114
      @matthewfors114 Před 5 měsíci +11

      @@TorianTammas it wasn't just any man, it was Aragorn. You know, a man who has already lived close to 100 years and is smarter, stronger ,faster and more skilled with a sword than any living man at that time and also used the fire to get rid of them. The Ringwraiths primary weapon is that they put fear into people, they are usually commanders and have orcs do their dirty work. I'm sorry if the book is a little to detailed and not super simple and just making every bad guy over powered and comically defeated illogically

    • @matthewfors114
      @matthewfors114 Před 5 měsíci +9

      @@TorianTammas a giant flood going at the speed of a freight train isnt supposed to dismount them? it also didnt kill them, thta is pretty scary. if i encountered creatures that cant be killed by a racing flash flood i would be terrified. Do you think you would survive a flash flood if you were standing in a riverbed?

  • @carlbernard7615
    @carlbernard7615 Před 4 měsíci +17

    For once I have to praise the algorithm for bringing me here. Excellent videos and presentation, instant sub here.

  • @goshlike76
    @goshlike76 Před 5 měsíci +29

    What a phenomenal presentation. I dare say that this is quite an underrated video, if not one of the most underrated videos regarding Tolkien's work.
    From the illustrations to the eloquent presentation and the comprehensive content, I enjoyed every single bit of it.
    An absolute masterpiece overall.

    • @theeffete3396
      @theeffete3396 Před 5 měsíci +1

    • @Red1Green2Blue3
      @Red1Green2Blue3 Před 5 měsíci

      It's 12 days old with almost 100k views, hardly underrated lol

    • @Shermmy
      @Shermmy Před 5 měsíci +2

      Although I found the content interesting, it was also unnecessarily repetitive.

    • @NickysVibe
      @NickysVibe Před 4 měsíci

      I couldn't agree more. Really great stuff.

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      @pierrebourgaud7799 Před 4 měsíci

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  • @eternalnighthorrorstories2297
    @eternalnighthorrorstories2297 Před 6 měsíci +24

    I sense that your channel will be big pretty fast. Amazing content so far, and very well illustrated! I'll be coming back for more

    • @JJ180
      @JJ180 Před 6 měsíci

      Its AI you fool

  • @savage1370
    @savage1370 Před 6 měsíci +14

    Wouldnt the oldest living Elves have know who they where as human kings?

  • @tinag7971
    @tinag7971 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Another great video! And again such beautiful artwork! The details in these pictures are such a fantastic talent!

  • @YourOldUncleNoongah
    @YourOldUncleNoongah Před 6 měsíci +2

    Excellent video, questions, theories. I have subscribed! Brilliant!

  • @dimitris470
    @dimitris470 Před 6 měsíci +15

    It's hard to imagine such tormented, ruthless and probably in some ways dependent and addicted beings feeling joy in the redemptive way you are describing. Maybe perhaps they felt some sense of relief from the release of Sauron's oppressive influence

    • @hebercluff1665
      @hebercluff1665 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Even though it's doubtful they actually chose redemption, it was very in character for the Valar to at least offer their enemies the chance to turn themselves in and earn redemption. I wouldn't put it past them to offer this chance to the Nazgul.

    • @stefaniebraun3319
      @stefaniebraun3319 Před 5 měsíci +5

      ​@@hebercluff1665There was nothing to offer for the Valar. The nine were once men, bound by being men and would still receive the gift of men. The Valar have no Power over their fate. They would die and their souls would go to the unknown place, dead humans go to in Tolkiens World. They would just be a few thousand years late.

  • @roboslug7582
    @roboslug7582 Před 5 měsíci +5

    From what I've heard, one of the Nazgul became an Uber driver and another one opened a small bakery in the East Village. I've tried the bakery. They make really good croissants.

    • @elm7469
      @elm7469 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Excellent story!!

    • @Mark-rb9zt
      @Mark-rb9zt Před 18 dny

      No no no,they're all delivering takeaway in Nottingham

  • @AndyAdventuring
    @AndyAdventuring Před 5 měsíci +8

    Sauron still exists, permanently weakened, blown to the east by Iluvatar to wander powerless as a shadow with no ability to affect the world. I'd like to think the Nazgul, now released from Sauron's grasp, continued to hunt, but this time they hunted their former master.

    • @theeffete3396
      @theeffete3396 Před 5 měsíci +1

      The Nazgul's unlife was tied to the rings. When the One was destroyed, ALL the rings lost their power. With nothing left to bind theor spirits to the world, it's very likely they died and went to the Halls of Mandos to await judgment.

    • @trjngd
      @trjngd Před 5 měsíci

      The rings didnt lose all of their power I think it was described as the other rings of power elf human and dwarf all last 98% of their power that they once had most of which was the dominating power they once had

    • @Hegemol900
      @Hegemol900 Před 24 dny

      @@theeffete3396 Spirits dont have to be tied to the world to not leave. Wraiths are just beings that dont move on. Maybe if they wished it so, they could have lingerd in the world. I dont think they hunted Sauron tho. That would have been pointless. Sauron cant die, and is inevitably going to regather his strengh and might later return, or influence the world in other ways. Like manipulation. he has done that quite often actually. Point is, there is no point in hunting Sauron, bechause you cant get rid of him.

  • @mcjohngd3583
    @mcjohngd3583 Před 6 měsíci +14

    Very well done and interesting, keep up the good work!

  • @JS-mh9uu
    @JS-mh9uu Před 5 měsíci +11

    Once the One ring was destroyed the other rings became little more than decorations. So the rings power that was keeping the wraiths corporeal ended immediately. The wraiths would have faded away rapidly after that going on to the after life in short order.

  • @KazgarothUsher
    @KazgarothUsher Před 6 měsíci +1

    really enjoyed this :)

  • @sylvanaire
    @sylvanaire Před 6 měsíci +62

    The illustrations are amazing, kudos to whoever generated them! I also doubt that any redemption was sought or received. If Saruman’s spirit was wafted away by a West wind, the Ring Wraiths stand little chance of forgiveness. Being so completely dependant on Sauron’s will for every action, it makes sense to me that they dissipated into nothingness just as he did.

    • @Krfification101
      @Krfification101 Před 5 měsíci +14

      But Saruman's spirit was that of a Maia, not of a man. Mankind are under the dominion of Eru Illuvatar, and once Sauron's chains were broken, I could easily see him claiming these long lost spirits as his own once again.
      Granted, everything is under the dominion of Eru, and we only have the examples of Sauron, Saruman, and Gandalf for what happens to Maiar who "die." Gandalf, who was valiant in his mission, was given greater discretion in the use of his own powers and sent back as a reward for his faithfulness, to finish his work. Saruman, who actively rejected his mission was likewise rejected by Eru, or so it seems. And Sauron tied so much of his own spirit into the physical integrity of the Ring that it was destroyed when the Ring was.

    • @sylvanaire
      @sylvanaire Před 5 měsíci +6

      Thank you Krfification101. I had forgotten to weigh in the balance that the wraiths were once men.

    • @blasterofmuppets4754
      @blasterofmuppets4754 Před 5 měsíci +3

      well, there's probably quite the big change that the illustrator wasn't a person.

    • @kevinclement1533
      @kevinclement1533 Před 4 měsíci

      But didn't Saruman turn evil out of his own free will? The 9 kings who end up as ringwraiths were basically enslaved against their own will.

  • @mythatsabigone2500
    @mythatsabigone2500 Před 6 měsíci

    Awesome video dude 😎 subbed

  • @colindunnigan8621
    @colindunnigan8621 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Thank you for pointing out that the Nazgul may have been tempted by Sauron through a desire to do good.

  • @nathanbennett9999
    @nathanbennett9999 Před 6 měsíci +5

    That was a surprisingly positive view of their end.

  • @iambiggus
    @iambiggus Před 3 měsíci

    Love the way the 'history' is delivered. Cheers ❤

  • @user-ki9ly1uy1w
    @user-ki9ly1uy1w Před 6 měsíci

    Beautifully done. Great voice ! Congratulations.

  • @markp6062
    @markp6062 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I had a similar thought. With the power that kept them 'alive' and enslaved removed, There would be a sense of relief/release and then... the end and on to whatever eternity awaits all men.

  • @tscarb
    @tscarb Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you! I enjoyed this

  • @nicholasmaude6906
    @nicholasmaude6906 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Since the Ringwraiths Fea's were bound to the Ruling Ring once it was destroyed along with their bodies (Hroa) their fears would gone to the Halls of Mandos for a brief stay before on to wherever a fea of a man went to.

  • @Sam_Smith1987
    @Sam_Smith1987 Před 3 měsíci

    Great stuff ❤

  • @shep9231
    @shep9231 Před 2 měsíci +1

    In their lives, their deeds were legendary. In my life, they were nothing more then my enemies. But now that they have gone. I find I pity them. They were once great kings of men.

  • @neilh9442
    @neilh9442 Před 4 měsíci

    Art & presentation are brilliant!

  • @bobsbigboy_
    @bobsbigboy_ Před 5 měsíci +1

    Amazing video. Beautiful images, very nice to listen to narration. Subbed

  • @boogieondown5824
    @boogieondown5824 Před 4 měsíci +3

    They would have been given the gift of men as promised. They desired power and likely acted unscrupulously, but their complete turn to evil was designed by Sauron. Like a master that beats his dogs into killers, they had no other option, they know of no other choice to survive. Sauron who repented briefly, once freed of Morgoth, yet then went back to serving evil is the one that faces the final destruction. The wraiths had no option to repent once tricked into addiction by Sauron.

  • @grillodofus
    @grillodofus Před 4 měsíci +1

    When Meriadoc and Eowyn slays the Witch King, i distintively remember that is writen "And no more was he seen in that age of the world" i think is implied that HE indeed returned at one point.

  • @augustinep6193
    @augustinep6193 Před 2 měsíci

    Good video. Thanks.

  • @ficialintelligence1869
    @ficialintelligence1869 Před 4 měsíci

    Stunningly beautiful artwork.

  • @diegogamba7825
    @diegogamba7825 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Loved the video, great work!
    Some images are increadible, could you please share the credits?

    • @MrMyers758
      @MrMyers758 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Script: AI
      Narration: AI
      Art: AI (or just stolen content)

    • @jamesrendell7355
      @jamesrendell7355 Před 5 měsíci

      @@MrMyers758 Really excellent designs. I'd love to know which AI tools you use for this please. I might have a go myself.

  • @bcfb21
    @bcfb21 Před 5 měsíci +7

    I know it isn’t canon. But I love the ending that talion eventually got. From man to wraith to Nazgûl. Finally getting peace in the end.

  • @fred20097
    @fred20097 Před 2 měsíci

    A cool video, thanks

  • @fjccommish
    @fjccommish Před 3 měsíci

    So glad you do this without bad background music. It ruins so many videos.

  • @Axgoodofdunemaul
    @Axgoodofdunemaul Před 4 měsíci

    Well done!

  • @TFOLLT
    @TFOLLT Před 23 dny

    Very interesting, and I loved to watch and hear this.
    That being said; not all the ring wraiths were kings during their human lives, nor where they all noble men.

  • @matthewking1980
    @matthewking1980 Před 4 měsíci

    Your voice is fantastic. Very soothing.

  • @realneighborhoodP
    @realneighborhoodP Před 5 měsíci +1

    This was a wonderfully made video.

  • @mikepette4422
    @mikepette4422 Před 4 měsíci

    you do a great job.

  • @cernunnos100
    @cernunnos100 Před 6 měsíci

    Well written. Good sound.

  • @57badarse
    @57badarse Před 28 dny

    2 of my favorite fantasy series, the Executioners Apprentice, and the Shannara chronicles, both feature many a character inspired by the Nazgul. Tolkien is just the father of most fantasy.

  • @jonathonfrazier6622
    @jonathonfrazier6622 Před 6 měsíci +2

    With the Ring gone and a good blast from Orodruin, they finally bit the dust.

  • @awendigowithinternetaccess4400

    Honestly, I hope their end is as you described. That is the best one can hope for those poor men.
    Merry Christmas and lots of love for everyone. ❤

  • @autobotjazz1972
    @autobotjazz1972 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Your Thoughts on the fate of the Ringwraiths line up with what i have considered. They were once mortal men but i feel what was left of them after being freed from the yoke of the One Ring, would have been judged to be beyond redemption and thus at least sent to some place, perhaps the void to spend eternity far from the souls of those they once tormented.

  • @LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989
    @LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989 Před 4 měsíci

    My favourite new LOTR channel, bravo sir.

  • @teashea1
    @teashea1 Před 5 měsíci

    very well done

  • @davidtatro7457
    @davidtatro7457 Před 5 měsíci +1

    The remaining Nazgul were all flying for Mount Doom as fast they could on their winged steeds. At the moment the ring was destroyed, they all burst into flame and were consumed in midair. I'm not sure where all of this poetry about them standing around having all these emotional epiphanies comes from, but it doesn't come from Tolkien.

  • @dayzeofclarity
    @dayzeofclarity Před 4 měsíci

    Excellent video... and speaking voice

  • @mattgraham2835
    @mattgraham2835 Před 3 dny

    its quite interesting to know what and how much tolkien had to say about everything in that universe

  • @jacksonbrooks404
    @jacksonbrooks404 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I like how you talk, scholar

  • @Mysterytour7
    @Mysterytour7 Před 4 měsíci

    The story in the second half is really rather sweet.

  • @RiMajol8081
    @RiMajol8081 Před měsícem

    Somebody in the near future may be able to make this become like the Conjuring Universe. I'll watch for sure.

  • @user-th3ll8rl7i
    @user-th3ll8rl7i Před 2 měsíci +1

    I would have thought they just kind of evaporated and blew away. That's what happened to Saruman.

  • @d5kenn
    @d5kenn Před 5 měsíci +1

    At 4:20 - that's a lot of fingers!

  • @SandNebula232
    @SandNebula232 Před 5 měsíci

    Subbed!

  • @catrandy7957
    @catrandy7957 Před 5 měsíci +8

    What happened to the Ringwraiths was sad. I saw one just the other day - "would you like fries with that burger?"

  • @FerretJohn
    @FerretJohn Před 5 měsíci +1

    I would have imagined that the Nine, being more connected to the One than the others, were broken when the One Ring was destroyed.

  • @SI00000
    @SI00000 Před 5 měsíci

    Well said.
    Who did the artwork?

  • @Theomite
    @Theomite Před 5 měsíci

    Damn, where'd you find these paintings? They're fantastic.

  • @user-uu1bu3vk9n
    @user-uu1bu3vk9n Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you for sharing this information about this Movie's back ground though I seen all the Movie's.
    Lord of The Rings and The Hobbit. I Dig It 🤙🌋🏖️

  • @vtmuseum
    @vtmuseum Před 5 měsíci +2

    Angmar was able to think and make decisions on his own. The Nazgul were slaves to the ring, so they had to do, what the ring-bearer told them. But they still had the ability to think and act (remember that part in the Appendices about the movements of the Nazgul? It clearly states that Angmar had to make plans and decide what to do). Like Sauron said: "Get me the ring" and the Nazgul planned and acted by themselves how to achieve that goal.
    Another point: Angmar was the leader of Sauron's army. How would he be able to do that, if he wasn't able to think, plan and act/give orders on his own. A mere puppet wouldn't have been able to do that.
    So, I'd say that after the Sauron's death and the destruction of the ring, they weren't disorientated and they surely weren't left without a purpose. The real question is: When the One Ring was destroyed, all other rings lost their power. How strong were the Nazgul bound to their ring? Did it gave them life and powers or did it just make sure that they did what Sauron asked them? If it gave them their powers and life, they would have just vanished/died. If it was just a means of controling them, they now would be free.
    But, as we all know just from reading LotR, they were destroyed/died from the explosion of Mount Doom.

  • @jamesjacobs4209
    @jamesjacobs4209 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Your description of their fate is a symphony of words! It flowed like the river Anduin.

  • @pupfish1966
    @pupfish1966 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The power that sustained them was gone, thus they just passed away just like their master.

  • @TarMody
    @TarMody Před 5 měsíci

    A speculative approach can be taken to this situation, since the status of their spiritual structure and destiny is uncertain at the end of the metaphysical transformation process into the ring-wraith. If it is assumed that the rings of power were made to prevent the elves from fading (due to their main purpose), the transformation into a wraith can be read as a side effect of these rings on humans. Depending on whether the soul is connected to Arda or not, if the soul-body (fëa-hröa) relationship is inherently opposite between elves and humans, the factor (rings of power) that prevents elves from fading may cause humans to fade. The fading of the human being as an incarnated being can be considered as the wraith form of existence. Since the factor causing this is a ring of power, the ring-wraith description seems appropriate. This is a theory. If this is the case, how can the phenomenon of death be defined for a ring-wraith? What will be their fate? When the One Ring is destroyed, do their souls go to the Halls of Mandos? These types of questions still remain unclear. Despite this uncertainty, my thoughts are as follows: It is out of the question for the soul of a being whose soul is created from the Secret Fire to perish. At best, they can continue their existence as an ineffective spiritual being like Sauron. Since the soul-body bond did not end (they did not die), it is possible that their souls did not go to the Halls of Mandos. It is possible that they fell into a psychological void when Sauron's influence on their will disappeared. I don't think they will remember their memories due to their mental deterioration.

  • @CedarCoveTigerPark
    @CedarCoveTigerPark Před 5 měsíci +1

    Topic question: what would Sauron (or Morgoth) have DONE with middle earth? What would either of their victories have looked like to Middle Earth and to what purpose would they drive it?

  • @user-vj2wt7jh7j
    @user-vj2wt7jh7j Před 5 měsíci +1

    The Ringwraiths were destroyed when Sauron was killed. The rings "Forged" (actually cast- one forges blades not rings) by Sauron lost there power and were unable to keep the undead Ringwraiths undead. Tolkien mentioned that they flickered out of existence.

  • @danielphillips6825
    @danielphillips6825 Před 4 měsíci

    Honestly the witch kings passing leaves the possibility of his return he is set out to let out a cry that is not heard again in that age. It would have been fun to see him trying to survive in the theoretical sequel by devouring the lesser rings witch likely retained their power.

  • @ericdoberstein8872
    @ericdoberstein8872 Před 5 měsíci +5

    The end of the Ringwraiths is described near the end of the chapter "mount doom" in the Return of the King. Sam watches the end of all of Sauron's works created with aid of the one ring, Mt. Doom reels and splits open, the Dark Tower collapses, and the last sentence says "And into the heart of the storm, with a cry that pierced all other sounds, tearing the clouds asunder, the Nazgul came, shooting like flaming bolts, as caught in the fiery ruin of hill and sky they crackled, withered, and went out". As for the Witch King who died at the hands of a hobbit and a woman, ( and thus the prophesy of Glorfindel came true because no man's hand had brought about his end), it was a blade that was crafted by the Dunedain to deal him "a wound so bitter, cleaving the undead flesh, breaking the spell that knit his unseen sinews to his will" that caused him to release a cry that "went up into the shuddering air, and faded to a to a shrill wailing, passing with the wind, a voice bodiless and thin, that died, and was swallowed up, and was never heard again in that age of this world". I think if their spirits somehow survived they ended up in the void with Morgoth.

    • @vincenthammons-kd9du
      @vincenthammons-kd9du Před 2 měsíci

      Doubt they got the morgoth treatment that would be unfair since they had no control over their actions

  • @dimmo696
    @dimmo696 Před 11 dny

    They became the Auditors of the Disk World

  • @jeremygreenwood1021
    @jeremygreenwood1021 Před 3 měsíci

    I don't understand the references to the Halls of Mandos. I thought they were the preserve of elves. It is stated that without the sustenance of their rings they flickered and went out. It had never occurred to me that that might have been a blessed relief. Thank you for that. I would have liked to have known more of them before they faded into wraiths. I should imagine their ultimate fate was the same as that of other men, whatever that is.

  • @DarthAchilles88
    @DarthAchilles88 Před 4 měsíci

    Here is a question potentially worth looking into; what happened to the Nine Rings after Sauron's defeat and the passing of the Nazgul? I could see the eight remaining in Mordor falling into the ruins of Mount Doom and being destroyed, but what happened to the Witch King's ring after he was defeated? Was it taken into Mordor and destroyed as well, or did someone take it as a prize and also become corrupted?

  • @Sodalis_
    @Sodalis_ Před 4 měsíci

    You have a truly wonderful voice

  • @metalmadness5851
    @metalmadness5851 Před 5 měsíci

    I will note the the game Elden Ring has the Night's Cavalry; a group of nine black cloaked and armored warriors that hunt the players at night. In the game files they are apparently labeled "ringwraiths." One of the many references to them in other fantasy q9rks

  • @laercioeso
    @laercioeso Před 3 měsíci

    It's ironic the Ring poem says the Nine were doomed to die, thought actually dying was the very thing they were never able to do...

  • @Draegn
    @Draegn Před 6 měsíci

    Great art for Eowyn. Your work?

  • @LordMerji
    @LordMerji Před 6 měsíci

    Kind of reminds me of Darth Vader after he died...his spirit was able to live and he was able to become a Force Ghost. I tad different than the Wraiths, but still reminded me of that.

  • @earlahmer5528
    @earlahmer5528 Před 5 měsíci

    Given the duration from the time of issuance of the rings and the time of of the one rings destruction likely meant that as quickly as they felt freedom they shortly dissipated due to it's destruction.

  • @jamesbee3087
    @jamesbee3087 Před 4 měsíci +1

    When Sauron was at his weakest, therefore, the Nazgûl became inactive, but when Sauron's power began to gather again, the Nazgûl rise with him. Naturally, this means that after the One Ring is finally destroyed by Frodo and Sam, the Nazgûl are no more. There is nothing to bind their wraith-like souls to the mortal realm - the magic is broken.

  • @devonsharkey414
    @devonsharkey414 Před 5 měsíci +1

    One can only delay, but not thwart the will of Eru Illuvitar. They share the Gift of Men.

  • @armandowillem
    @armandowillem Před 4 měsíci

    I know it's not considered "canon", but I like to think that at least one of the Nazgul aka the fallen ranger Talion from the Shadow of Mordor/War videogames finally got to pass into the afterlife and see his wife and son.

  • @jadefalconmk1
    @jadefalconmk1 Před 5 měsíci

    The names quoted outide of the Witch King and Khamul the Easterling were in the Iron Crown Enterprises Rpg

  • @MarkMoore-xk2rn
    @MarkMoore-xk2rn Před 6 měsíci

    Hola, subscribed and enjoyed, however, what is your source for your assertions, Take Care and Good luck

    • @RealmsUnravelled
      @RealmsUnravelled  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thank you for subscribing and enjoying the content! When crafting my explorations and interpretations of Middle-earth, I draw from J.R.R. Tolkien's original works along with various other writings and notes by the author. Additionally, I also consider insights and theories shared by the Tolkien community over the years. These interpretations aim to offer fresh perspectives and thought-provoking discussions while staying true to the spirit of Tolkien's world. The assertions regarding the fate of the ringwraiths in particular that were the topic of this video were largely based on a quote from Gandalf the White in the ROTK as he faces down the Witch King and reads as follows:
      “You can not enter here,” said Gandalf, and the huge shadow halted. “Go back to the abyss prepared for you! Go back! Fall into the nothingness that awaits you and your Master. Go!”

    • @MarkMoore-xk2rn
      @MarkMoore-xk2rn Před 5 měsíci

      Fair comment. All the best with your adventure@@RealmsUnravelled

  • @craigpetroskey8934
    @craigpetroskey8934 Před 2 měsíci

    I think the physical bodies of the Ringwraiths were returned to be entombed once more in the high Fells of Rhudaur. However, their ability to take physical forms was dependent on the power of the One Ring; once the One Ring was unmade, their re-entombment was permanent, as nobody except Gandalf the White knew where and how they were buried, and that secret went back to the Undying Lands with him.

  • @alanpennie8013
    @alanpennie8013 Před 4 měsíci

    I love a happy ending!
    At the end of their torturously extended lives these shadow figures recovered their humanity.

  • @Tomahawk588
    @Tomahawk588 Před 5 měsíci

    I always wondered what happened to the Wraiths after the one ring was destroyed.

  • @John.S92
    @John.S92 Před 4 měsíci

    Only one being is ever said to have been completely "perished", and that is from the second prophecy of Mandos, Where Eru Illuvatar once and for all steps in and removes Melkor completely, then sing anew with all the ainur and elves an unbroken, healed Arda. In short; the ring-wraiths where not gone, their souls would have lingered, perhaps finally ended up in the Halls of Mandos as would any elven soul after death, even the souls of mortal men did go to the halls of Mandos before passing on.

  • @yurikendal4868
    @yurikendal4868 Před 5 měsíci

    I think this is the best interpatation of the ringwraiths fate. They couldnt have lived on as men. Their age would have ended them if they were mortal. It sounds as if being in Sauron's power like they were was a hideous fate. I,m not sure why they held onto the rings that were sapping their vitalithy but thehy did. It seems a hallow exchange they went through and Im glad they found an end to their torment and experienced a relief at the end of their existence. They made horrible choices that lead them to enslavemeant but they were released from bondage. This is a positive video about some really dark figures of the tolkein universe who are not soley eveil simply made horrid choices that lead them to this. Im glad they found a good ending.

  • @CT-pi2gl
    @CT-pi2gl Před 5 měsíci +1

    Sorry but this is way off, at least as regards to the fan theories. Return of the King text clearly states right after the Ring's destruction, "... tearing the clouds asunder the Nazgûl came, shooting like flaming bolts, as caught in the fiery ruin of hill and sky they crackled, withered, and went out." Crackled and went out evokes the image of a candle flame sputtering out at the end of its fuel. Withered can also evoke rapid shriveling and disintegration, perhaps like the Indiana Jones guy when he drinks the wrong chalice. As a young reader of the books, the final complete destruction of these Riders felt like an immense relief and vindication, after they had cast a terrifying pall over the whole story, always hunting, from whom the characters were never safe.
    Additionally, on the slopes of the Mountain Gollum predicts, probably truly, that when the Ring is destroyed he will perish into dust. The Nazgûl most likely suffered a similar though perhaps more dramatic fate.