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▬ Contents of this video ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
0:00 - Star Wars Was My Life
1:39 - When Star Wars took a Wrong Turn
4:12 - What is Disney Doing Wrong?
5:40 - Number 1: Disney Lies
8:39 - The Marketing
12:22 - Number 2: The Characters
12:35 - Fin
13:14 - Captain Phasma
14:06 - Cad Bane
14:15 - Sequel Characters
14:50 - Reva
15:24 - Number 3: Poor Writing
15:57 - Stranger Things
16:33 - "First Ideas"
19:02 - Reva's Motivation
20:13 - Reva's Motivation (Fixed)
21:25 - Reva's Arc
22:32 - Number 4: Insulting Our Intelligence
23:24 - THAT Chase Scene
24:16 - Storm Trooper Aim
24:32 - Boba Fett Droids/Kenobi Escape
25:02 - Everybody Lives!
26:47 - Number 5: Our of Character Decisions
27:18 - Vader's Decisions
29:51 - Wouldn't Happen
31:01 - Character Dramas
31:41 - Dear Disney
32:45 - Mr. Lucas, We Miss You
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Remember the scene were Luke jumped out of his speeder only to find Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru's skeletons cooking in doorway? His reaction is how I feel about Star Wars today...
Your analogy is perfect. He was so thoroughly devastated that his spirit was crushed. 'What do I do now?' The real life answer: Become Catholic and go to church. Holy Mother Church has the best 'living story' becoming real history every day. You would simply be trading one story for another one you never knew was yours to inherit the whole time. Come, learn a new story. There's room for you here in the Catholic church. Just take a look at all the famous Catholic converts on YT. There's room for you here.
@@matthewvelazquez2013Gotta hit that quota to be a great great asset to Christianity
@@PhantomGato-v- "I will make you fishers of men." yes, there is an unspoken, essential, unofficial, quota. Our LORD Jesus Christ says to cast your nets deep. St. Paul says Jesus desires that all men be saved. With that, the essential, unofficial, quota grows right along side the population of the earth. There are roughly one billion Catholics on the face of the Earth. This means that, this year the essential, unofficial quota is 7.1 billion people. Next year, the unofficial quota will be slightly higher.
No we turn to warhammer 40k
Well, Disney doesn’t care about making good content, they only want to push the message. Good story and profits be dammed
I honestly feel like the problems with Obi-Wan were more fundamental. The dialogue in New Hope strongly suggests that Obi-Wan and Vader have not met since the battle we saw in Episode III. Why was their meeting on the Death Star a case of the circle now being complete...was it not complete when they met again ten years prior? Leia's message to him also reeks of her unfamiliarity with him...she repeatedly mentions she's contacting him on behalf of her father, with no sense that they've ever met. And why does he let Vader live at the end? The problem is trying to wedge a story into a time frame where the outcome is already known. Obi-Wan can't die, Vader can't die, Luke and Leia can't die; where's the tension? The one thing we knew he did on Tatooine in the intervening years was train with Qui-Gon, which got maybe thirty seconds attention in the final episode. They had no story to tell, just a product to sell.
It honestly could've been done well if he'd been his same sad boy self and learned to overcome that with quigonn, either by overcoming it in a slow way incorporating unseen stuff from the prequels era or by showing him helping out tattooine locals to try and feel better but causing himself to get attention from the empire. It could've been a good show tbh
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"The dialogue in New Hope strongly suggests that Obi-Wan and Vader have not met since the battle we saw in Episode III."
Not only that, but it is outright stated so in the synopsis of one of the bonus story chapters in Revenge of the Sith video game. Which is why I naturally assumed that Obi-Wan and Darth Vader will not see each other in the Obi-Wan Kenobi series. I was flabbergasted when they did.
This is the sort of analysis we need. It backs up my personal headcanon that nothing made after ep3 was finished is canon.
I thought that the idea of rescuing little Leia was a good story idea. So he had something to do, not only to sit and watch little Luke. But then they made a story full of nonsense. They all should have been dead halfway through the show if the empire had done anything right.
Here's one thing about Obi-Wan that I'm still trying to wrap my head around. Reportedly, Kathleen Kennedy put the production on hold in January 2020 because she wasn't happy with the scripts. This begs an interesting question: Was it the subsequent rewrites that ruined the show, or was the original draft so unwatchable that any change was acceptable?
South park the panderverse answers this question. *in cartman voice* Put more chick's in it. Make em black. Make em gay. And there ya go. Star wars sucks because of forced bullshit that isn't needed and is divisive because it's weird and stupid.
Interesting take tbh, did KK actually try to make it good instead do making it bad?
Honestly that could be the case. Everything that had to do with Reva felt forced like it was put in last minute. And while every scene that involved her felt lack luster and shoe horned every scene between Vader and Obi wan was amazing. I feel like Reva and the whole fortress story beats were forced in by Kathleen or her team.
My brilliant theory: It originally focussed on Obi Wan and Vader just like they told us, meaning that there were no female main characters in it. Kathleen didnt like that, so it was rewritten to have young Leia be the main character and created Reva to be the new villain. The imperial side character was probably a male before and they had probably some random inquisitor as the side villain.
I wouldnt be surprised if KK just replaced the old writers and new ones that obviously never saw a single SW product rewrote everything. Then Dave Filoni snuck into the writers room and was like „if you put my Rebels OCs in here, I‘ll tell you how to use chameos and nostalgia for distracting the viewer from how bad the show really is“ and boom, the Kenobi Series as we all hate it was created.
@@GreenNinj4 This exactly... i don't trust KK to making anything good in star wars, as long as she is involved my expectations are at 0.
The best example of what your were talking about with Hayden, which this came from Disney themselves, was Luke in the Mandalorian. Fans went crazy after Luke showed up, and no one knew he was going to be in it
Unfortunately, after that single episode, they don't go anywhere with him, which was criminal.
They should've found a way to give him a satisfying story arc in the next season, even if that meant his departure from the show.
No, I think they did fine with that part. It actually ties in the three last movies well, showing that Luke is a great Jedi but a horrible teacher. This sets up his failure with Ben Solo and his descent into solitude
@@mahande88 🤡
Yeah, because Disney was going to blow that by telling everyone Luke Skywalker is going to show up?
Don't be a moron. Two completely different things.
@@thefilmlodge it doesn’t take a moron to know that they could’ve treated Anakin the same way. Imagine that scene in episode 4 when he shows up, it could have broke the internet. But everyone knew he was going to be in it somewhere so it wasn’t as big as a surprise.
I wrote a letter to a magazine after the release of Episode I in 1999 warning people to stop attacking George Lucas or he may eventually stop caring about Star Wars. I said that without him, it would no longer be Star Wars (my favorite thing ever). They published my letter and the editor mocked me.
Foreshadowing.
Lucas was absolutely washed by the 90s
@@Connor8609nah, he was getting to his prime
It's obvious that GL stopped caring about SW long before even the EP.1
And with prequels he smashed all the logic of the original trilogy.
"Without (George Lucas, Star Wars) would no longer be Star Wars."
You were right about one thing, that we can all agree. For better or worse.
can we round up the writers and make 'em sit down and watch this video?
Seriously!
Fire them and hire new ones. The demand for these jobs exceeds supply. The issue is hiring talent.
They’ll just call you an alt right nazi sexist.
right 🤣🤣🤣
It is clear now - Disney Lucasfilm does not care.
It seems pretty consistent that the current leadership over Star Wars on screen doesn't have a high creative bar. With the exception of Mando, it's all been between medium and embarrassingly bad. Mando should really be the bar, with all things meeting or exceeding it. Star Wars used to be a major event where audiences would see things never seen before. Lucas was bold and always pushed it to the bleeding edge of technology to show audiences the future of filmmaking. I just don't see Star Wars being special until there's a change in the creative leadership to someone with a vision, ambition to leave audiences in awe, and the talent to reach that high bar.
You could argue Star Wars was always "just alright" but in the past there wasn't much competition
Now there are countless serialized stories published as web comic strips or even CZcams videos
Twitch, a dozen streaming services, wattpad fanfiction, audiences have way more choices
Huge companies ran by committee can't compete with creatives doing their own thing
IMO even Mando was pretty mediocre. Had some great moments but most of the episodes were entirely forgettable. As in i’ve literally forgotten them
I don't think creativity is even relevant. They (hollywood at large) are willfully ignoring actual fans and appeasing some minority of selfrighteouss hooligans.
They are ignoring or even downright disrespecting lore. They disrespect characters. They shoehorn in bullshit. They retcon left and right. Politics and sjw's are more important than the product and the fans.
And they know, but they don't care or they're being pressured into it by higher ups or finances.
Wrong, Andor is the high bar.
@@ooooneeeeandor is not even star wars, it's a show that would work better if star wars wasn't in the name
One thing that Disney forgot was that Star Wars' main theme was hope. Hope for survival, Overcoming evil, and freedom. But we've lost that. There's no emotion tied to these stories, it's just a husk of something we once loved.
Rian Johnson didn't ruin Star Wars, he was ALLOWED to ruin Star Wars.
TFA was ruined SW already at that moment
How to fix Star Wars from another lifelong fan: Make movies of Timothy Zahn's books, make it cannon, and go from there! Long live Mara Jade.
This is going to sound controversial but here I go. I recently re-read Heir to the Empire and Mara Jade is just as abrasive and try-hard as Reva is. I do not think she'd be well received by the normies.
absolutely agree that she's abrasive and try-hard. but she has a character arc, at least, where she gets more humble. and she's not painted to be right - Luke is. She is wrong, and in the wrong, a lot, just like all the other characters, not some girl-boss like today@@Azure_Fire
@@PurplePeopleHatter You're right of course. Many people don't realize that even though it's called the Thrawn trilogy, Mara Jade is the main character of those books. She's the one with the character arc and has the most development.
My issue is that with a character like Reva (and I'm talking about her because I brought her up in my first comment) people didn't seem to understand it was the writers' intent to make her unlikeable. She wasn't supposed to be right. And at the end she realizes how empty her pursuit of revenge is. It shouldn't matter if she's a girl-boss, she's the antagonist. Her behavior is supposed to be at odds with the audience so we can root for Obi-wan.
And I'm only talking about Reva. You have someone like Holdo and yes the girl-boss thing ruined her character. But it feels like people are being purposely illiterate when it comes to Reva. Yeah Kenobi's plot was riddled with holes, but Reva's character arc was the one thing in that show that did make sense.
@1:00, bro...
I gotta say, my eyes immediately watered up. I remember, man. Those days...nothing was like it, at the time. We knew the end of the story already. But we never got to see how George imagined that fall. And all of us, all our nerdy friends, talked and waited and talked about all the theories. Good times, man.
Still watching your video. Glad I found it. You are a true Star Wars nerd - the best of us.
All these feelings and you weren't even there for the original trilogy, that epic "I am your Father!' Watching the OG trilogy in the theatre was peak Star Wars...never to be experienced again 😢
100!
Thats not necessarily true. It most likely wouldn't be most people's first time viewing it but you do know that you can rent out a theater and watch what you want. My cousin knew a guy who would rent out a theater room and he would hook his xbox up and would play games on the big screen.
Would it have the same energy as back then not even close but there is still ways to come close to that feeling. But if you do you rented it so invite friends or tell starwars fans about it online because im sure many would show up to get a chance to see them in theaters again or for the first time.
Honestly id rent one out for days to watch them all
here two years after the upload and oh boy did Disney not learn a fucking thing
andor was good but I think that was just an exception
@@henry7486 andor was the only good thing disney made that wasnt written by filoni nor favreau. istfg those two have literally been carrying the whole star wars saga since disney bought the franchise
@@kr_ykoo I don’t what those two wrote, but if it includes Rouge One, I agree with you. That movie was peak imo
Disney is no longer movie company. They are marketing company: they want to sell merchendise, and people will buy and consume anything they throw at them. The same thing is going slowly with new Marvel phase.
They're not a marketing company either, they are a propaganda outlet.
Any defense of a fight scene from Disney Star Wars can only be made in reference to the other fights they've shown. They use the lightsaber like it's a goddamn baseball bat
Disney: you want to watch a bad Star Wars movie.
Fans: “you want to go home and rethink your life”
I feel like they should have just announced a series called “inquisitors” or something like that. Have it all about the inquisitors hunting Jedi and make a main character trying to prove herself - Reva. I feel like as a standalone character she was pretty good, except they decided to throw her in the middle of something where we don’t care about her. Then she had no arc. No direction. If she were in a show all about the inquisitors I feel like that would be a badass show.
Almost cried after I watched this from laughter and just getting everything right also had to send it to all my Star Wars family nailed it.
Finally someone speaks the thoughts many people had, Thank you guys
Finally? people have been saying this whiney shit since the movie came out
@@ThePhillShow quote this right we have loved the show since it started but truth has to be said
There's a film that came out and condensed the series into a 2-hour movie called the Patterson cut. You should review that because it made everything so much better.
There is a similar edit called the Pentex edit which is excellent. I haven't watched the Patterson edit but I hear it is similarly great.
After those edits were released they worked together to edit Book of Boba Fett.
@@DrBdan8 I am extremely interested in this. My favourite Star Wars character is - surprisingly - the Disney version of Boba Fett as seen in "The Mandalorian". I loved what Temuera Morrison did there. After that, he and all of us were only done dirty. If a movie format improves this? Probably. If you cut out the Vespa gang...the BS...you could be on to something with Boba.
Appreciate the shout out 🙌🏼🙌🏼
There is another edit coming out soon from PixelJoe95. Look out for it. It will be good
Star Wars was a damn good story, told in 3 chapters. A father-son redemption arc. Never meant to be a Marvel-style universe.
Dude you nailed this... Perfect. Brilliant. I thought I had some points in my Kenobi review video but your video is just great
There was one really out of place decision for Old Luke. His intention to kill Ben Solo over a dream when he swore up and down that there was good in Vader and wouldn't kill him.
It's not his fault, it's just the Skywalker child-murdering genes coming out.
Star Wars ended in 2005 with Revenge of the Sith... The sooner everyone realizes that, the better. Some stories are better off with a beginning and an end. Star Wars is one of them.
The movies died, sure, but the cartoons (like the novels before them, back when kids read books!) definitely kept the spirit alive. I've had more fun watching Clone Wars and Rebels on Disney+ than I thought I would. And Andor and most of The Mandalorian have kept me hooked as well.
Interesting that in 2005 Star Wars fans used to say that "Star Wars ended in 1983"
I’ll still say that Star Wars ended with Return of the Jedi. The prequels are terrible.
i personally enjoyed the video games, force unleashed was fun and good, felt a bit ret-conned though.
If you go back and read some of what is now called “Star Wars legends” you can see that it didn’t die. There are some really good stories in there.
The Rat (Disney) is what killed it.
“It could have been better” with a clip of Rogue One in insanity 2:31
Best Star Wars movie.
@@Mahbeiserts 😂😂😂
@@Mahbeiserts Revenge of the sith and Empire strikes back: Are we a joke to you?
Rogue One made me exited for Star Wars. Truly. It was mindblowingly good. I was so happy to see where we would go from there.. enter the literal shit.
@@FrobergDKit’s crazy that Disney made rogue one, a masterpiece, and then also made the sequels? Like what ??
Agree to most of what this video claims. If you look at Andor compared to any other series Disney has made, it's like looking at a series for kids and an adult HBO series (Andor).
This is such an incredible breakdown of what Disney did wrong and you did it so respectfully. Thank you for making this.
I was just happy that the inquisitors didn't fly around with their Lightsabers like in Rebels
Speaking of Star Wars Rebels... they already did that helmet-cut-open scene there in the fight against Ashoka... it was so evident that they were going to recycle that tbh. And the rock-throwing contest smh
And killing the Grand Inquisitor was also stupid because he has to be alive for Rebels...
Vader was known for using his surroundings against his opponents
The inquisitors in general are stupid. Old canon literally only had Vader slaughtering Jedi, because by the time of rebels most Jedi were dead and there were only like 10,000 to begin with. Even Padawans would die to stormtroopers, inquisitors were not necessary and were an invention so that the "jedi" in that show could have lightsaber fights without getting insta rocked by Vader. They're a lazy tool that fell for the filonism of "rule of cool" wherein logic or consistency doesn't matter as long as filoni likes it
That helmet-cut-open scene was lifted from the Star Wars: The Force Unleashed video game. They even took the sound effect of Vader breathing with his broken helmet from this game. Same for the force grip of an escaping ship idea, which is taken from one of the games' DLCs. The game is from 2008, btw. Usual disney, looting the EU.
Thank you for your constructive criticisms and intelligent suggestions for improving the Star Wars Universe, from Disney. I agree with all of them! I wish they would learn from their mistakes. I’m so sad we never got the original cast back together the right way. What an incredible opportunity they blew.
You nailed it. Disney Star Wars has a serious writing problem. Indeed, Hollywood does!
However, you forgot to mention the NEGATIVE impact of Disney rushing to launch their own streaming platform (Disney+), which was hastened by the Covid Pandemic, but only compounded the existing writing problems.
Many of the recent disappointing TV shows were originally intended to be movies, so when they were turned into TV shows a lot of poorly written "filler" content was added, budgets were stretched and quality checks lapsed.
when mom says "im not mad.. im just disappointed"
For the record, Jar Jar was actually meant to play a bigger role and grow during his time in the senate but critics roasting the character which was quite literally meant for children (and well liked by them) made Lucas remove some of the focus from JJ
Dude was literally the one that got palpatine the role as Chancellor and was key in TPM
You can make all the valid comments and criticisms that many have made over the years, but it really does just come down to them almost never giving us what we want, seemingly on purpose. Like you said, give us an 8 episode show (1 hour each) focusing almost solely on Vader and Obi. Honestly, it's unreal that they can't understand this.
Agree
Your missing the big picture young child Leah is using her Girl Power to get away from those kidnappers, and earned a Girl Boss Merit badge. She was 'using the Female Force'.
It's simple: take it away from the people who HATE it, and have stated as such, including that they straight-up want it to die.
So long as it is in the hands of these people, it will get worse and worse.
I honestly doubt that Disney want Star Wars (one of their major franchises to die).
@@ninjabourneThey don't care about it. They care FAR more about the woke message than they do about any of their IPs. They've very much proven that.
The answer to all these questions of “why did Disney do this?” can be found in the recent Film Threat exposé on Hollywood writers.
Thanks for referencing that. Just checked out the video and 100% agree. Writers aren’t actually allowed to write anymore.
Yeah Ahsoka didn't really work out.
I agree with all your points, and would like to add something.
Nothing in Star Wars feels threatening anymore. I know that you're gonna tell me about the stormtroopers of the originals and stuff, but that was the 70s and original movies still had a lot of suspenseful moments and the bad guys had real presence.
Nowadays, huge firefights happen and nobody gets shot. Sith lords who force-grab blaster bolts mid-air lose lightsaber duels to coward plumbers who aren't even force users. Huge monsters doing a lot of CGI craziness but just can't touch or harm main characters. The list is endless, open a random episode of any one of these and you'll find a couple stuff that is so childishly easy.
They do have some moments, but they probably produced those without noticing what they did right. The TIE fighter dashing towards our covert-ops team in Andor was genuinely scary, because it was filmed from a very grounded, first person perspective. You feel as if a fighter jet is closing on you and you're on the last moments of your life. Or how difficult getting a simple information through enemy lines, and how even the "good guys" commit atrocities "for the greater good".
Find ways to make it challenging. Don't leave stupid backdoors for heroes to defeat an imperial garrison! Don't put characters into situations they would logically fail to defeat! Have them avoid, evade, get permanently hurt, lose people and barely make it out alive. Raise the stakes, take it seriously.
The funniest thing about Vader being stopped by some fire is that in his canon comics he actually manages to resist being under lava, so there isn't really a reason why he shouldn't be able to resist a few seconds on fire
PTSD I'm guessing is the excuse they went with
maybe - but the idea of Vader swimming around in lava is really dumb.
As another lifelong fan it was disappointing to see what Disney did. We got our hopes built up just to be smashed down and it felt alot like this: it felt like a bully or popular kid taking something the nerd likes and using it to make fun of the nerd. They don’t care about what us as nerds care about they are doing it just to make fun of us and make us look rediculous
Wow, I couldn't agree with you more. I too am a life long fan, work in film and would love to see anyone at Disney watch this video. They should probably hire you on as a part of the creative team. It really does seem like the higher ups at Disney don't want to tell someone they have a bad idea, just in case that triggers the person.
100% true man.
"I’m offended" xD
They don't want to fix it, they just want to use the name to make as much money as possible
As a hard core Trekkie, I feel your pain.
Less than 5 minutes…wow. This video was so informative, we loved it!!
I really dont know, what Disney has become :( I was just seeing Lion King, out of nostalgia... and at the end, when Simba climbs Priderock to claim his kingom... this scene gives me chills after 30years, because of the story and the animators who managed to put sooooooooo much pride in a cartoon lion. I sat infront of the TV and i was like "Is this the same company that gives us shi**y remakes (Lion king, aladin,mulan etc.) the same company that turned the biggest franchise ever existed (Star Wars) and ruined it in just a few years? George Lucas isnt perfect, but there is one difference to Disney, $$$$
Lucas may become a billionare over Star Wars, BUT he wanted to tell his story, he had something in his mind "Space western with wizard samurais" and not one of the studios wanted his idea. Hell he was forced to leave the director guild, because he "dared" to lay the credits after the movie. But he sais "F you all, im doing it anyways" andyou can hate or like his remasters, love or hate the prequels, love or hate the dialouge, BUT one thing stays true. This man and his vison made billions of people watch and unite over his "vision" same with Roddenberry and Star Trek, love or hate him, but he changed the world. Without Star Trek or Star Wars, most of the spaceprogramms we had so far, wouldnt been made
The reason Storm Troopers and Droids can't hit is a) they have low dice pools and skill numbers. b) the heroes have Hero Points and can spend them to avoid hits or effects that otherwise result in their injury or death.
Underrated comment
Nah, the droids have the reason that they were nerfed and compromised by Palpatine to keep the war going. If it werent for him, the war would have been over after a few weeks.
Stormtroopers and the imperial military in general on the other hand are destined to fail. They are essentially 19 year old boys that never held a blaster before their few months of training and then get sent into battles with cheap equipment.
Masterpiece video. Instead of being completely unfair and criticizing everything the writers did, you were fair to them and gave points on how to improve Star Wars with simple changes. Seeing this after the Ahsoka and Andor show released reinforces some of your points as well
Here's a better idea for Reva's character, she hates Obi-Wan because he trained the guy who almost killed her and killed her.
So she hates Kenobi for training him; and she wants to prove herself powerful enough by killing Vader's former master, but that's the secondary motivation. Her primary motivation is to become Darth Vader's apprentice; at least secretly, overthrow him and maybe join the Emperor as his appearance. Don't microwave sudo villain like in the the show, make her an actual like villain, she's dedicated to the dark side. The movie with the soft spot of once she eventually becomes empire she'll allow the Jedi to live in some limited capacity.
When her plan goes south, Vader kills her there's none of that killing Luke stuff she just gets murdered by Vader.
Something doesn't need to have "Star Wars" attached to it unless you're a corporate loyalist
Brands barely matter, they're mismanaged constantly by people who don't care about them
I'm sure there are fanmade projects that capture the "soul" of the originals much better
You should bring attention to those instead of begging a giant company for content
Its sad when your a big star wars fan like me and you're about see the last movie and expect it to be the best star wars ever, and then you watch it and feel like you just got slapped in the face.
The last movie was pretty bad and made me really upset because thats not how star wars should've ended and disney ruined everything.I mean I forced my self to like starwars 8. Its increadble to see how such a huge franchise that ran on its own and made its own corperations like Lucas Arts and then it just falls into the void because they decided to side with disney. Disney had no idea what they were doing and ruined just like EA, Activision, and Ubisoft. It seems disney got us with its sick twisted mind games with kenobi and the last 2 star wars movies I hope you have a great day fellow fans.
Watching this post Ahsoka and Mando season 3, seriously highlights these issues even more. Youve hit the nail on the head with your assessment of the current state of Star Wars and the issues that it is facing. Hopefully one day soon the powers that be do some serious reflection.
Well, at least we have Andor and... Andor
Man it hurts to be a Star Wars fan
With the release of the sequel trilogy and Star Wars: The Force Awakens, the overall consensus from everyone was *not* "Star Wars is back". Up until that point I was also a Star Wars fan, doing practically all the nerd stuff accompanied with it (books, movies, games, tabletop stuff). I loved the universe and idea of it all, growing to understand its complex yet simple storytelling. I did also come to accept the weaknesses, but stand firm in that the strengths and general ideas behind that story was great to build a universe from. It was never about perfect visuals anyway.
Immediately, even during my first and only full watch of The Force Awakens, I saw what would come. There was a tell in the narrative that this wasn't a continuation and building upon what was already there, but that they not only disregarded the idea of Star Wars, they ridiculed and spat on it. It was a movie of the new generation - great visuals, and great audio, but vapid story and regard for the source material.
Apart from Rogue One, that I feel builds fairly well with themes, mood etc. on the founding ideas - I fully agree with the rest. Star Wars has dwindled to another cheap cash-grab with weak identity and a vehicle to impose "modern morals". There's... just no heart left in it. Just roping people in for the money. Chasing young Leia with clown-music. But the real thing lives on. Just not in meatspace.
4:11 just keep in mind, the epic fight scene in Kenobi. They basically stole it from rebels, when Vader fights Asoka.
Right down to having half of his mask removed.
Then, during an interview with McGregor, it turns out that the one really nifty thing they did using the lighting to coincide with the voice was an accident. Apparently, instead of the metal rods they used to use the now basically use the FX light sabers you can buy for 300 bucks with the plastic tube that is lit up so they don’t have to do any special faxed add shadows or lighting and it saves a bunch of money.
But they just randomly noticed that where they move their blades, shifting positions would make his face blue or red, and they decided to go with it.
I think Disney hates Star Wars even MORE than they hate Star Wars fans. I would almost say they were trying to destroy a franchise.
This is fantastic and so good. You touch on the pain points, bring up amazing concepts that should have been workshopped more and give easy measurable changes that could restore not only star wars, but I honestly feel a lot of Hollywood issues, but you do it in a way that is loving and compassionate and doesn't have to destroy or bash others in order to get your point across. You feel empathetic more than offended, and still show love for the art and the genre without having to crap all over it to do so. Proud of you for doing something that came from the heart versus just the bash culture that's so rampant online these days.
Great video, thank you for breaking down the problems in a clean and understandable way. God bless
WOAH WOAH WOAH!!!
My favorite thing to do as a little kid was get star wars action figures and make mini movies with them! That was literally my first time ever trying to use a camera! The only thing I would ever want to buy would be Star Wars action figures so I could record more episodes!
I have a vivid memory of my dad teaching me to use the pause and unpause recording button on a phone, because when I would cut from scene to scene, I would cover the camera with my hand, and start humming a soundtrack for 5 minutes with a black screen to keep the audience entertained while I set up the next scene😂
So much nostalgia from that first clip Justus
Finn and Rey being trained by Luke and then Rey going to the dark side for episode 2 would have been awesome
Hear me out tho, Luke could've still been absent, as for why idk, but Leia being a Jedi and the leader of the order due to Luke's disappearance would fit in plenty of ways. If they wanted to keep the Ben solo thing then Leia and Han splitting could be a bit more complex, with Leia handling it like a more classical Jedi and Han being broken and not receiving support from her, thus he goes back to who he was before he knew her, but they both still love eachother deeply. This would give Finn and Rey a master to teach them rather than just a Mary Sue and her friend. They could even have Leia be the one to die with the whole finding Luke thing ending up pointless because Luke actually shows up but is slightly too late to save her leading into the next film with the same broken Luke that has an arc alongside Rey and Finn but has a genuinely good reason to act and feel the way he does. Idk, there were countless way cooler ways they could've done every aspect of those films, I think that the flaws started with JJ's TFA being uninventive as fuck, the only truly unique part of that film was Finn
And, to cover the base of most fans wanting to see the OT cast together, have Leia explain Luke's disappearance as seeming out of the blue with them eating dinner or something just for him to never return afterwards, still not sure how Luke leaving could make good sense and be in character for him but there def is a good way to do it
Rey should have been Luke and Mara’s daughter from the start
The "first idea" syndrome is what I always suspected about modern Star Wars... A 15 minutes brainstorming session could have solved some issues.
What about when Reva is chasing Leia on the rooftops, and then Obi Wan saves Leia when she falls. Reva is totally going after them and knows where they are. But then, Obi Wan has time to talk to Leia after he saves her AND the Rogue Jedi.
Where did Reva go?
Sorry bro but Disney did not listen to you
Indeed
Good to know I’m not alone with these feeling. Also, the way and respect you had to give us your opinion was amazing.
Scare of upcoming movies and shows being too much kiddo due to the “Disney+” Better move the shows to Hulu and make them much more aggressive.
I recognize the music from the intro being from the "prepare to cry" video for Siegward and Yhorm the Giant.. I love that song, what is it?
Love this video. You hit the nail on the head!
Btw, the sad score music is great. Where is that from?
The best critique I’ve seen of the current state of Star Wars. As a lifelong fan, since the originals, Obi-Wan broke my heart.
Ik this video isn’t completely focused on the sequel movies, but it still blows my mind that Disney would set out with the plan to make a TRILOGY, and not have it planned out even a little bit.
En fait ils avaient les plans de George lucas mais ils ont préféré tout refaire quasiment de 0. C'est trop triste de se dire que Lucas avait déjà tout prévu mais que Disney a préféré faire ce qu'ils ont fait à la place
And that's what they did with Luke in Force Awakens. They hyped up the return of Luke Skywalker, only for Rion Johnson to shit on him. They could have made Luke a reluctant mentor and have Rey convince him to come back with her, had Luke take on the AT-ATs and Kylo just like in the original, only physically there and with Luke's teaching, Rey becomes a full-fledged Jedi. But they didn't.
Nope, Luke should have had his NJO on the planet with him with Rey joining him in training, no disconnect from the Force etc, Luke takes his students out of the war zone to train them
In terms of the surprise factor with Hayden, Disney doesn't have to look that far to see that this works: the Mandalorian Season 2 ending. No one knew Luke was coming at the end and when he was messing up the dark troopers, sure people could guess it's him but it wasn't until he took his hood off where Star Wars was saved (at least for that moment). I don't get emotional watching stuff but seeing Luke like that, the way he was supposed to be, was the moment I had been waiting for. I still have the feeling of tearing up when I see that scene remembering the feeling I had watching it the first time.
Need an updated video
Tbh, TFA was already a sign of the downfall in retrospext
Thanks for putting everything I was thinking about Kenobi into words.
31:35 Boba’s EE-3 not being a three round burst carbine really pissed me off too. The lack of attention that Disney has towards Star Wars is like watching gears grinding to shards.
Nice!
Next maybe try to make "Dear Star Wars Fandom"
Thoughts on Andor?
Great show
@@Tarisaher excellent show
Did something happen between Reva and Vader, that means he literally cannot kill her? Like what happened between (Rey F.N.)FN-2187 and Phasma, so he can't kill her?
I will give Disney props for The Mandalorian and Endor, though. They hit some home runs with those two shows, at least.
SW: Visions wasn't bad.
Well one of the rare times when i am typing first comment. I still in the beginning of the video so i have no idea about what u gonna talk . I want to say that dear star wars please make stories set after sequel trilogy. Creat new narrative, explore new places (you have a whole fukin galaxy) , create new mythologies , introduce new generations and film them with practical effects and love and respect. Not more of "oh look luke Skywalker " , "oh look darth vader" , oh look lando , oh look cantina guys .i am tired of that shit.....
Reva didn't die from the lightsaber because she has Black Girl Magic, it is a special power that is generated from the Female Force that only females with high melanin count have, as the midichlorians and melanin combine like peanut butter and chocolate to make Black Girl Magic, similar to how delcious Reeses Peanut Butter Cup tastes Magically good. The magic happens only when you combine the two.
It brings me joy to know that someone else also enjoyed playing with atactix. And i know the obi wan show isnt good, but that show made me feel like i was a kid again watching the prequels with my dad and it was the most wonderful moment from Disney's Star Wars and i dont know if anything will ever top it
Reva makes peefect sense, shes into the strut because she needs followers on space tik tok, but all she really wants to do is dance fight and make the old school cool again.
Rogue One is top 5 best star wars
Very well said man. Touched on a lot of valid points that I think all of us as die hard fans can agree on. As much as I'm grateful for Disney giving us all this new content, they really need to take a step back, and start putting in more time and effort into all of these projects so that they don't come out looking cheaply made and almost fan film like. Disney is a multi billion dollar company, so lets start seeing more consistency with stuff that actually looks like it 😤
Disney won't fix something that they are obviously intending to break. These bad ideas aren't first ideas. They are woefully bad ideas from a company that is happy to beat it's golden goose like a dead horse.
Kudos to you for watching the Obi-Wan show to the end. I couldn't get past the third episode. Haven't watched Mando Season 3 or the Ahsoka show.
Disney is a bad joke. They pissed and crapped on Star Wars after already burning it down to the ground. The only way to make Star Wars exciting again is by telling an all-new story set thousands of years in the future, with new characters from a really competent writing team of real Star Wars fans, and not hacks.
Superb Essay! Thankyou for that
Star Wars is dead, and it's been dead since Return of the Jedi.
Once Vader died that was it for the series. There is no one as frightening and badass as Vader.
It's time to grow up and move on.
Absolutely. Everything dies.
Some sharing of my opinion of a non star wars fan but looking from a movie critique standpoint.
I found episode 5 if obiwans show 7/10 writing and the finale only a 5/10 (especially with the ending)
Rogue one (absolutely amazing) is my 3rd favorite star wars movie after revenge of the sith and starwars V
I love the mention towards Signs in this video because that movie is awesome and I feel like it doesn’t get talked about too much 💯
What a brilliant essay, thank you!
If Star Wars is bad now, then how come all of you didn't try harder to speak up.
Face it, not only I am disappointed with Disney but I am disappointed with the fans, they were reasons why it was sold to Disney in the first place.
Do you want to know why? The fans bullied Lucas, the cast from the Prequels and finally took pot shots at the movies when they came out.
I am sorry that sound insulting but in the end I am right about them. Think about what I have said.
I can’t believe this channel dislikes The Last Jedi. Surely you can see how strong the story is and how faithful it is to the core message and narrative of the original trilogy.
Strong story? You mean the loose collection of segments each devoted to “subverting expectations”, the complete contempt for everything Star Wars has done in the past and the characters. The dull and tensionless “chase” sequence, the First Order just taking control of the Galaxy by… snapping their fingers…. Who is Snoke and how did he corrupt Ben to the Darkside, well he didn’t and now he’s dead so it doesn’t matter. The fact the films contradicts its self not ten minutes after it’s done something purely because “it subverts expectations”
@@BattlestarZenobia - It had 4 complete arcs, fleshed out the depths of the lore of the force and gave an honest look at the Jedi. Subversion is merely a byproduct of being original rather than C+P what had been done before.
I agree 100% with your opinion that they should have let the Anakin reveal stay a secret, but I also couldn't help but notice another key difference due to your comparison with Spider-man. The closest comparison within Star Wars itself was the Luke scene at the end of Mandalorian Season 2. And it truly was spectacular. That one moment stopped me from abandoning Star Wars all together. I had major chills when he pulled down his hood. And this was all despite the fact I lost internet connection half way through the scene and had to wait about 3 minutes for the show to restart mid way through Luke fighting past the Dark Troopers. I was on the edge of my seat, absolutely desperate to know "Is that Luke Skywalker?" But it was missing one thing. The crowd. The video of the fans jumping up and screaming over Andrew Garfield. That's not generally a thing here in the UK. That sort of thing very rarely happens but when it does, it amps up the love. It happened with Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire. It also happened with the return of Luke, Han and Leia during Force Awakens. And it would most definitely have happened with Luke in Mandalorian, if it was shown in a cinema. And even when it doesn't happen. You still leave the theatre with your partner, your friends, your family, who ever you go with and you say OMG. I think of the Simpsons when Homer leaves the cinema saying "Who'd have thought it. Darth Vader turns out to be Luke Skywalker's Father." Instead, when I watched Mandalorian, I had to wait a week until I saw my best friend who I would have definitely seen it in the cinema with had it been a film, and I said to him, did you see it. And he said no. I'm behind. And so I guess i'm double bummed out about the loss of Star Wars to TV/ Streaming. Because Originally my point was just that you don't get the same atmosphere watching these scene in your front room as you do when you go to a cinema. But also, streaming shows looses it's edge as a must see experience. In the cinema, you have a 3-4 week opening to see it before you have to wait another few months for a physical release. You go when it's those 3-4 weeks, you gather friends and family and you all march into that theatre and you watch it together. On streaming, you can always hold off a week. Not finished that other show? That's fine, finish that and then watch Star Wars, it can wait. Been busy at work and want to wait until your a bit more awake to watch it? Fine , wait a few days, it can wait. Got a choice between watching Star Wars tonight or going to the pub with friends? Go to the pub, Star Wars can wait. Going to watch Star Wars today but then realized you need to go to the shop at some point to buy a new bookshelf for the study. Go to the shop, Star Wars can wait. Want to watch Mandalorian season 3, oh shit, has it really been that long and i've still not watched season 2? Guess it will have to wait. Streaming is just not as fun or exciting. It looses any sense of urgency. And when you finally watch Mandalorian season 2 but your friends have already seen it 4 weeks ago and are now on to Book of Boba Fett, then your excitement is falling on the ears of people trying to remember what happened again. So with that long essay written lol. I would say, for me, the biggest problem and what would help make Star Wars good again, is to stop with Disney + and make Star Wars an experience again. Make it a date to put in your calendars. A date to plan and to gather your friends and get your jedi cape out of the closet and travel to your local cinema to see again. Make it an event. Not some crappy TV show that's overly bloated, and closed off to people who don't want to have to pay Disney money every god damn month. Let the fans experience these stories together.
Honestly, I don't think it's the actual writer's faults. If so many shows can be written by so many different people and be so consistently bad, then obviously it's the people who are there for all of them who have caused this - most notably Kathleen Kennedy (the President of Lucasfilm).
Apparently it was her who suggested to (aka forced) Jon Favreau (who wrote the Mandalorian) to have Mando and Grogu's reunion be in the Book of Boba Fett, leading many fans to be really confused if they then went on to watch Mando season 3 without first watching Mr Fett's show. I also wouldn't be surprised if she was the one responsible for Sabine Wren's sudden and unfortunate aptitude for the Force (in Ahsoka), among other things, and she is most likely looming behind every character who survives a blaster shot or a lightsaber stab (honestly at this point why not just use swords).
But thanks so much for making this, it's really amazing to have everyone's thoughts condensed so effectively, it's just that I feel the writers were not given much choice on their project's directions, so it would be a bit unfair to solely blame them.
Andor is the show that Star Wars needs to emulate in regards to its writing and character development. The production is fantastic, the writing is compelling, and the themes are consistent throughout. The show asks characters to make difficult choices and live with the consequences of those choices. The rest of Star Wars tends to insulate characters from the consequences of their decisions or give them uninteresting or inconsistent choices.
Another thing that Star Wars needs to get away from is the cameo character. Cad Bane is a good example. He’s a cameo who looks cool, makes no impact on the storyline, and only gives a nostalgia bump to fans who watched Rebels(?). As someone who never watched the Star Wars cartoons because I can’t stand the animation style, the character of Cad Bane meant nothing to me. Having pointless characters or characters whose sole purpose is to activate the nostalgia of some of the fan base is a waste of time in new stories. I return to Andor. A lot of criticism I saw about Andor was regarding how he was a minor character in some ancillary story, but he is treated smartly and developed in his own show. A guy like Cad Bane should have been a major antagonist to Boba Fett instead of a cameo.
My last comment is in regards to lore. Star Wars fans crave lore. They get enamored by the history of objects and references made in the programs. I think Disney is more focused on feeding fans lore and nostalgia that the character work is suffering.
Great breakdown and points. I’m going in a different direction as the real reason why it’s all subpar now. Been a Star Wars fan since I saw “ A New Hope” in theaters as a young boy. “Return of the Jedi” being my favorite experience at that time. The affect Disney has had on this series is tremendous and is stoked by the WOKE culture and political philosophy set now by the executives. This insane philosophy has now affected The Marvel universe since Disney got its paws on it. If Disney continues to run its company and productions this way, you will see the decline of what people once held as beautiful. At the end of the day, it’s been a story of good versus evil, light vs darkness. When this line has been blurred and turned into gray… we all lose.
Yeah man, totally agree
Quite insightlful.
100% The woke culture doesn't even like the woke culture. Disney is making content for an audience that doesn't exist.
The fact that we never got Han, Luke, and Leia together one more time is an unforgivable crime! Now it's too late.
There's always cgi 😢
And I feel like this will happen given so many people hating on them for it which is gross
Blame JJ for that one.
When I liked a girl, I told her. If she didn't reciprocate, it hurt. I wept. Listened to some good power ballads, and then moved on to the next pretty girl.
Fast forward to today, I'm married to my beautiful wife of three kids, and I first met her at the airport. We were strangers, and I just started talking to her because she was cute.
Never hide your feelings, and don't be afraid to talk to someone in person instead of trying to hook up through dating apps and text messages.
Okay i enjoy the video, but stop with the sequel hate it’s overdone and most of it is not valid. But there is one thing people don’t talk about.
The format of a majority of the shows now, it’s loner/group of loners watch kid. Think about it
Mando
Bad Batch
Clone Wars
Obi Wan
All damn near the same show with a different coat of paint.
Clone Wars is far more interesting than Obi Wan though.. the Characters are interesting and it adds sth good to the Storyline
@@bnb__lp9711 I actually disagree, I think that it has some good things but over all it’s boring and didn’t understand certain characters… DAVE.
The Last Jedi is still the best thing Disney has put out with Star Wars. But because star wars “fans” are the best bullies of any fan base, Lucasfilm is now terrified of them and doesn’t want to do anything new or risky.
Agreed.
Thank you!!!!
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The sight of Leia force flying through space sparked a deep seated rage in me I haven’t felt since opening day of that movie, the first and last time I watched that movie. Currently going through all the movies with my gf, swore we wouldn’t watch the sequels, changed my mind and now I really wish I hadn’t cuz next up is last jedi…
There is a fan edit of Rise of Skywalker that really helps make it a lot better than the original.
I think I agree with every word that was said in this video...
I believe the battle between Anakin and Obi-Wan was truly peak star wars and some of the best star wars content we've had in years. After watching Ahsoka, I think star wars is heading to a good direction finally and episode 5 was A M A Z I N G. The most important thing I think Disney should focus right now is how to fix Lightsabers and return them to their original state - not a bat (as seen when Kenobi is rescuing Leia) but a source of pure energy that'll cut anyone touching it. PLEASE DISNEY, LISNTEN!!!!