What If WWI Ended In Stalemate? | Alternate History

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  • What if the first World War, rather than ending in a Triple Entente victory as in our timeline, or in a Central Powers victory as others have speculated, instead had no definitive winner, the Great War ending in a stalemate.
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  • @MonsieurDean
    @MonsieurDean  Před 3 lety +254

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    • @user-kt8yp5ho2y
      @user-kt8yp5ho2y Před 3 lety +12

      Please remake what if Italy and USA joined the Central Power!!!!

    • @MonsieurDean
      @MonsieurDean  Před 3 lety +15

      I probably will.

    • @aidenredlin
      @aidenredlin Před 3 lety +1

      If you have ever heard of the Agadir Crisis, I suggest making a video about if the German Empire was granted Agadir. (Agadir is a state/city in Morocco)

    • @cronaalbarn2146
      @cronaalbarn2146 Před 3 lety

      What if the Greater German Confederation was formed in 1849 by a union between the Hapsburg and Hollenzoren houses .

    • @skylerb9594
      @skylerb9594 Před 3 lety +1

      if you have an actual discord account, id love to have a conversation some time

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican Před 3 lety +1522

    What if Australia won the Emu War

    • @MonsieurDean
      @MonsieurDean  Před 3 lety +1213

      The displaced Emus, desperate and broken, establish a fascistic state to reclaim their homeland and forcibly remove the Aussies. Of course, Japan backs the Emus in exchange for a portion of Australia. Germany, recognizing Emu's as the master race of bird, supports them in their goal of establishing legitimate rule in their domain, and annexing the Kiwis.

    • @katrinajarrett4251
      @katrinajarrett4251 Před 3 lety +234

      @@MonsieurDean
      The award for comment of the year is yours

    • @rexmundi3108
      @rexmundi3108 Před 3 lety +68

      @@MonsieurDean You completely fail to take into account the Cassowary Peril.

    • @aircoolguy5218
      @aircoolguy5218 Před 3 lety +10

      I keep seeing you

    • @501ststormtrooper9
      @501ststormtrooper9 Před 3 lety +5

      Seig Bird.

  • @nomnomxddd8157
    @nomnomxddd8157 Před 3 lety +268

    Germany for 7 times (1915): this war is going nowhere, we need to stop this massacre!
    Triple Entente: *no*

    • @georgethompson1460
      @georgethompson1460 Před 3 lety +40

      while germany is in french land and occupying some of frances most industrial land.

    • @juliank6793
      @juliank6793 Před 2 lety +40

      More accurate:
      Germany for 7 times (1915): Let's stop the war, because our plan failed and we want to try again later on without much consequence. Plus, we've occupied several countries and we want to keep those territories.
      Triple Entente: no

    • @SkenderPig
      @SkenderPig Před 2 lety +13

      @@juliank6793 idk seems fair to me

    • @Chosen_Ash
      @Chosen_Ash Před 2 lety +8

      @@juliank6793 incorrect

    • @bonzoluv
      @bonzoluv Před rokem

      @@juliank6793 is this peace treaty in the room with us now?

  • @clydesteele2925
    @clydesteele2925 Před 3 lety +1997

    Here's a dark alternate history: What if Chernobyl wasn't detected in time by other countries and as a result was not stopped, resulting in the radiation spreading across all of Eastern Europe?

    • @MonsieurDean
      @MonsieurDean  Před 3 lety +731

      I'd really need to look into that one.

    • @twojacksandanace3847
      @twojacksandanace3847 Před 3 lety +232

      I'm kinda confused, what do you mean by "detected"? Do you mean if the Russians hadn't told anyone about it and kept that massive fucking explosion that killed thousands secret? Because radiation did spread all over Europe, they sealed it off later on after the brave sacrifice of several Russian teams turned the reactor off. So what your saying is if the reactor wasn't turned off and for some reason they didn't bother to do anything about it? Thats interesting but makes no sense, the Soviets knew what would happen if they didn't stop it so they basically told their guys that if you don't do this were all fucked, even if it means you die so them not bothering to do anything bout Chernoble is just bonkers not to mention the reaction the rest of the world would have if the societs just let that thing sit around and spew radiation into their nations.

    • @jamesmclean478
      @jamesmclean478 Před 3 lety +298

      @@twojacksandanace3847 I think the more interesting version would be if the predicted second explosion had occurred and the 500km dead zone occured (rather than the current 30km exclusion zone). This second explosion was pretty likely and was only averted due to the sheer resources dropped onto the reactor, and the tunnels made to secure its underside. It's interesting as the 500km dead zone would be in the heart of the USSR and would have huge knockon effects across the world

    • @clydesteele2925
      @clydesteele2925 Před 3 lety +33

      @@jamesmclean478 thank you!

    • @skylerb9594
      @skylerb9594 Před 3 lety +33

      considering that the radiation reached the UK id say that is what happened

  • @docreverb
    @docreverb Před 3 lety +434

    >27 minutes
    Ah yea thats hot

  • @felixweinlinger
    @felixweinlinger Před 3 lety +541

    Pope: You're both going to your room.
    Central Powers: But I didn't start it, he started it.
    Entente: I didn't start it, he started it.
    Pope: I don't care who started it, your both going to your room.

    • @proximakirby3088
      @proximakirby3088 Před rokem +5

      Lmao

    • @Isaaac165
      @Isaaac165 Před rokem +9

      You’re*

    • @mhyc22
      @mhyc22 Před rokem +14

      @@Isaaac165 a discord mod

    • @Isaaac165
      @Isaaac165 Před rokem +16

      @@mhyc22 Discord Mods don’t correct people, they simp for girls.

    • @mhyc22
      @mhyc22 Před rokem +9

      @@Isaaac165 fair point you win

  • @wingninjagaming
    @wingninjagaming Před 3 lety +571

    This would be a great hoi4 mod

  • @doom7ish
    @doom7ish Před 3 lety +481

    I love how Japan is minding their Own Business.
    Needs a part two.

    • @Hollows1997
      @Hollows1997 Před 3 lety +15

      Totally agree.

    • @skepticalmagos_101
      @skepticalmagos_101 Před 3 lety +12

      Until you're country is attacked by the fire nation.

    • @guardiadecivil6777
      @guardiadecivil6777 Před 3 lety +19

      last time japan was left alone they resorted to killing each other instead

    • @grantt1589
      @grantt1589 Před 2 lety +6

      They actually where capturing some German colonies in the pacific bit didn't to that much

    • @winterfollowsspring8637
      @winterfollowsspring8637 Před 2 lety +7

      "minding its own business"
      "conquering a third of the world's contemporary population"
      right

  • @AliThaDude
    @AliThaDude Před 3 lety +874

    I have an idea: WHAT IF THE WESTERN ALLIES REACHED BERLIN FIRST?

    • @clydesteele2925
      @clydesteele2925 Před 3 lety +103

      Could this have been achieved with a successful Operation Market Garden, giving the Allies a straight shot to Berlin?

    • @AliThaDude
      @AliThaDude Před 3 lety +100

      Clyde Steele Maybe, we know Patton thought he could have reached Berlin had central command allowed him to push North through Bavaria.

    • @MonsieurDean
      @MonsieurDean  Před 3 lety +296

      Perhaps the Soviets shift their attention eastward instead.

    • @clydesteele2925
      @clydesteele2925 Před 3 lety +63

      @@MonsieurDean rip Korea and Japan

    • @fountainchristain
      @fountainchristain Před 3 lety +17

      @@clydesteele2925 I think mainland Japan would be fine if the US navy doesn't get involved

  • @zionmolina3039
    @zionmolina3039 Před 3 lety +944

    So Kaiserreich but without Syndiclism?

  • @l5p60
    @l5p60 Před 3 lety +119

    This is probably my favorite scenario you've made, a novelization or more extensive lore in general is definitely in order

  • @technine967
    @technine967 Před 3 lety +66

    Jesus... just imagine Great Britain and the German Empire together. I pity every nation that goes against them.

    • @shadowlord1418
      @shadowlord1418 Před 2 lety +20

      Oh god its the seven years war but they are both bigger and stronger

    • @michaelray3865
      @michaelray3865 Před 11 měsíci +6

      Funnily enough, that was exactly the proposal that Germany’s army took to the British leaders in the early 1880s. “Imagine your magnificent Navy and our invincible Army…! Nothing could stand against us!” They did use the Battle of Waterloo as an example.

  • @CharlesOffdensen
    @CharlesOffdensen Před 3 lety +19

    Funny thing, Bulgaria litteraly lost one battle for the whole war and that was it for the entire Central Powers.

  • @user-fu1yt7vb8h
    @user-fu1yt7vb8h Před 3 lety +117

    When Japan seems to do a lot better when the entente doesn't actually win ww1

    • @kanebarton6212
      @kanebarton6212 Před 3 lety +55

      The world in general seems to do a lot better when the entente doesn't win WW1 lol 😅😂

    • @the99throgue25
      @the99throgue25 Před 3 lety +33

      Japanese facism was a result of the western powers treating Japan as inferior after ww1 so it makes sense.

    • @user-fu1yt7vb8h
      @user-fu1yt7vb8h Před 3 lety +18

      @@the99throgue25 same with Germany and Italy when you think about it

    • @the99throgue25
      @the99throgue25 Před 3 lety +7

      @@user-fu1yt7vb8h idk about Italy but Germany was .

    • @user-fu1yt7vb8h
      @user-fu1yt7vb8h Před 3 lety +24

      @@the99throgue25 Italy was denied most of the land they were promised by the greater powers

  • @benwestrick2910
    @benwestrick2910 Před 3 lety +95

    I personally feel the treaty is so heavily favoring the Entente over the Central alliance. Germany loses all overseas colonies, Italy gains land across the Adriatic and Albania, and the Ottomans still get carved up. While the only gain the Central alliance gets is Germany gains a little land in the Baltic’s even though they should have had their separate treaty with Russia.

    • @dertery8724
      @dertery8724 Před 2 lety +18

      This would be essentially a status-quo treaty with all gains during the conflict remaining. The allies had already taken the German colonies in Africa and New Guinea and so would be extremely reluctant to return them.

    • @EndoClaw
      @EndoClaw Před 2 lety +4

      It would essentially be a permanent armistice

    • @frederickoftheartic2209
      @frederickoftheartic2209 Před rokem +6

      ​@@dertery8724 I mean, Lettow-Vorbeck was still a pain in the ass for the Entente throughout the entire war. Also, I doubt Germany would give up their colonies that easily, I see them being reduced but not fully taken.

    • @dertery8724
      @dertery8724 Před rokem +2

      @@frederickoftheartic2209 In real life Germany never gave up their colonies, but lost them in fighting. They would have no choice other than to give them up in any practical sense.

    • @hobomike6935
      @hobomike6935 Před rokem +1

      "What if WWI ended in stalemate?"
      It effectively did. the armistice (which itself was loosely enforced at best) alongside the redrawn borders gave all sides time to re-arm and prepare for the much deadlier *WWII,* which would be the deciding factor. the only difference is some countries changed teams during the interwar period.

  • @frankperez3975
    @frankperez3975 Před 3 lety +147

    All hail the Nation of Z!

  • @jackietang3789
    @jackietang3789 Před 3 lety +114

    "The War to end all Wars", *laughs in World War 2 and 3 possibly now*

    • @funtimefredboi3877
      @funtimefredboi3877 Před 3 lety +7

      @Danzard the memes are depicting the American missile attack one the Persian general (name hear) ass the start of the 3ww

    • @1.3mviews64
      @1.3mviews64 Před 3 lety +6

      @@funtimefredboi3877 don't call them Persian, they're Iranian lol.

    • @Pacbandit13
      @Pacbandit13 Před 3 lety +5

      @@funtimefredboi3877 thought it was China v India timeline

    • @vonmehlau9284
      @vonmehlau9284 Před 3 lety +6

      @@1.3mviews64 Iran is Persia, its the persian Name.

    • @funtimefredboi3877
      @funtimefredboi3877 Před 3 lety +3

      @@1.3mviews64 no they may call themselfs Iranian but just because it Hass Manny Cultures in them Persian being one of them he is Persian and irianien
      Like im being A Rheinländer and German

  • @Benjamin-Franklin
    @Benjamin-Franklin Před 3 lety +78

    Heres an Idea
    What if the Chinese Civil war ended in a stalemate?

    • @MonsieurDean
      @MonsieurDean  Před 3 lety +51

      Two Chinas. I suppose if the divide happens post-WW2 you'd have the Communists concentrated in Manchuria whilst the Nationalists hold out the South.

    • @silverabp
      @silverabp Před 3 lety +41

      @@MonsieurDean Two Chinas? Sounds familiar... *Cough* Taiwan *Cough*

    • @MonsieurDean
      @MonsieurDean  Před 3 lety +37

      This fella gets it. It'd likely be a more prosperous, albeit militaristic state, at least until it's western allies encourage it to reform. Communist Manchuria doesn't seem like a model for success, it may as well be annexed into the USSR or North Korea

    • @gametmane1093
      @gametmane1093 Před 3 lety +3

      Monsieur Z So it would be a bigger version of North Korea

    • @Cybernaut551
      @Cybernaut551 Před 2 lety

      @@gametmane1093 Let's have a Korean Kingdom Reunion.

  • @williamstevenson8454
    @williamstevenson8454 Před 3 lety +28

    At last, the No Anime timeline.

  • @MonsieurDean
    @MonsieurDean  Před 3 lety +37

    *Monsieur Z Wants YOU To Like And Share The Video*

  • @misterwhiteside7195
    @misterwhiteside7195 Před 3 lety +62

    Best alternate history channel

    • @ronjayrose9706
      @ronjayrose9706 Před 3 lety

      Yep😊😊😊

    • @Jake-zk3eb
      @Jake-zk3eb Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah I prefer this channel over thealternatehistoryhub channel.

  • @maximusdecimusmeridious3784

    WWI Alt hist is definitely some of the best. So many scenarios based off who wins and loses or in this case a stalemate

  • @chillaxo9863
    @chillaxo9863 Před 3 lety +108

    Why this is impossible:
    ALSACE LORRAINE

  • @Bluebanana2121_
    @Bluebanana2121_ Před 3 lety +39

    America & Japan Vs Britian and Germany in WW3. A very interesting take

    • @funtimefredboi3877
      @funtimefredboi3877 Před 3 lety +2

      Most of America and East asier against the rest of the world

    • @indominus9867
      @indominus9867 Před 3 lety

      America and japan would win if no one else got involved

    • @lance51542
      @lance51542 Před 3 lety +1

      @@indominus9867 japan would get its ass kicked and i doubt that America would go that far into war with Germany and England i could see England losing the Caribbeans and o Canada

    • @oliverstone6573
      @oliverstone6573 Před 3 lety +5

      @@lance51542 that would surprise me. You gotta remember this a situation where the usa never joins ww1 or sells weapons in ww2. Its industry was a lot weaker than the UK because of this, let alone if we are counting the industry of France too (franco British union) and that of Germany.

    • @the99throgue25
      @the99throgue25 Před 3 lety +3

      @@lance51542 japan has a pretty well trained military and if I'm correct is larger then Germanys.
      There navy is also one of the best in the world.
      Thr UK barely has a navy and its ground forces aside from the SAS is pretty laughable.

  • @zionmolina3039
    @zionmolina3039 Před 3 lety +67

    What if the Carlists won the Spanish civil war?

    • @gareginnzhdehhimself
      @gareginnzhdehhimself Před 3 lety +8

      @Will DeMarco They did. But Franco sidelined the more radical elements of the FET y de las JONS because he wanted to establish good relations with the West, who would tolerate more "moderate" fascism/Francoism because he was very anti-communist

    • @tsarbeaver2351
      @tsarbeaver2351 Před rokem +2

      If the carlists won truly with out the fashie turn the crown of Spain would’ve been back

  • @norcofreerider604
    @norcofreerider604 Před 3 lety +28

    Is it just me, or does this scenario end in a very similar manner to how the geopolitics of George Orwell's 1984 is described?

    • @Fred_Lougee
      @Fred_Lougee Před 4 měsíci +1

      Apparently, based on three years of no replies, it's just you. However, I just found this video and my immediate thought at the end was 1984 so it is now two of us.

    • @norcofreerider604
      @norcofreerider604 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@Fred_Lougee Nice

  • @Alex-nq7vz
    @Alex-nq7vz Před 3 lety +14

    Bulgaria was not defeated by Greece. There was a very strong Anglo-French contingent in nowadays Greek Macedonia. The Bulgarians were repeatedly attacked with overwhelming force in 1916, 1917 and 1918 until the breakthrough in late 1918. Interestingly enough, the collapse of the Bulgarian front was not the final battle there. The British rushed forward through southern Bulgaria but were soundly defeated. The Bulgarians then agreed on conditional surrender. They would allow Entente troops through their territory but Bulgaria proper was not to be occupied.

  • @theoldsaxon6484
    @theoldsaxon6484 Před 3 lety +26

    When you said New German Century, my mind immediately did this...
    *ERIKA!* *bom bom bom*

  • @redbluesandmoons7478
    @redbluesandmoons7478 Před 3 lety +73

    That is a cursed Thumbnail

  • @skylerb9594
    @skylerb9594 Před 3 lety +31

    idea - instead of predicting how the past could have been, what if one predicted how the future can be

    • @bigfish92672
      @bigfish92672 Před 3 lety +8

      The Police State is inevitable

    • @swampdonkey1567
      @swampdonkey1567 Před 3 lety +1

      bigfish92672 not if you fight it.

    • @priesto8010
      @priesto8010 Před 2 lety +1

      @@swampdonkey1567 bruh just become a policeman in police state

  • @garyb2392
    @garyb2392 Před 3 lety +11

    I don’t often wonder “what would life be like” if certain world events happened differently. I stumbled upon your video and decided to listen to what you had to say....which I found intriguing, thoughtful and through! You covered areas that I hadn’t considered, mostly out my own ignorance and motivates me to look into what really happened. ie Germany helping (Imperial) China. TY! Well done !

  • @monarchblue4280
    @monarchblue4280 Před 3 lety +176

    *The Rome saga has ended* 😥.
    *Monsieur Z gives a reboot to your favourite scenario* 😀
    *Hes remaking the moon vids and said that he'll do other ancient nations* 🤩

    • @MonsieurDean
      @MonsieurDean  Před 3 lety +31

      Monsieur Z delivers.

    • @ronjayrose9706
      @ronjayrose9706 Před 3 lety +5

      Yes he sure does

    • @noobzgaming3836
      @noobzgaming3836 Před 3 lety +4

      Finally a good emoji comment

    • @ivokantarski6220
      @ivokantarski6220 Před 3 lety

      Italy would need to pump in good troops to help Greece magically beat Bulgaria. The other Balkan allies of Greece wouldnt be in such borders and the Serbs wont do a thing. Italian soldiers wont do shite to Bulgarian army unless they come in quantity of 600k with Greek army too. Even then its debatable they would win.

    • @aaaphaaap4622
      @aaaphaaap4622 Před 2 lety

      Wtf

  • @Steve-KG5LAA
    @Steve-KG5LAA Před rokem +13

    I love the thought of "what if" with all of these alternate history scenarios. When you change the outcome of a certain event, you can "probably" predict what is likely to happen in the days and weeks afterward. The problem becomes exponentially more difficult to predict what will happen in the months and years to follow. There are just too many possibilities to account for, including outcomes no one has thought of yet. Even with the help of super computers and an artificial intelligence, we would probably be somewhere if the neighborhood of 60% accurate. It is still fun to postulate though, and I will keep watching the videos. Thank you very much for all of the hard work and thought you put into making this particular video possible.

  • @milutinke
    @milutinke Před 3 lety +3

    Southern front was broken by combined forces of Serbia, Greece, France, and Brittan, not just Greece.
    The majority of the soldiers were Serbs and French (150 000 and 180 000)

  • @yoavmor9002
    @yoavmor9002 Před 3 lety +60

    Z: Makes a reasonable plan for Roman restoration
    Me: A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one
    Z: Shuts it down hard
    Me: The ability to speak does not make you intelligent

    • @TheHatersarebad
      @TheHatersarebad Před 3 lety +2

      What does this comment mean?

    • @MrJjppff
      @MrJjppff Před 3 lety +1

      Shuts it's down hard

    • @yoavmor9002
      @yoavmor9002 Před 3 lety +5

      @@TheHatersarebad It's on about how Mister Z teased us with an Italian Roman restoration movement which could actually work, but than killed it

    • @ivokantarski6220
      @ivokantarski6220 Před 3 lety +1

      Italy needs back up from other European powers. Greece wont be doing shite to Bulgaria in this alternative. A 200k Greek army at time could be smoked by 150k Bulgarian army. Bulgaria traditionally raised up far larger army in timeline. With a general win its population could be nearly twice of Greeks population. Other Balkan allies? Yeah nonexistent Yugoslavia and a nobody Romania. Greece becomes great. It magically happens that Bulgaria has no ally anywhere and the Italian peasants get what they want wherever they like.

  • @mistasmilyface5057
    @mistasmilyface5057 Před 3 lety +1

    This is one of my favorite videos that you have posted. I love all your work as well. I enjoyed every bit of it thank yoy

  • @ottavva
    @ottavva Před 2 lety +3

    WW1 was a family-feud war between the three cousins Willie, Nikki and Georgie

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un Před 3 lety +38

    What if Zanzibar didn’t join Tanzania

    • @MonsieurDean
      @MonsieurDean  Před 3 lety +26

      It's always a pleasure to see you in the comments.

    • @PandoraKin564
      @PandoraKin564 Před 3 lety +1

      @@MonsieurDean no it's not, don't support imposters.

    • @limedickandrew6016
      @limedickandrew6016 Před 3 lety

      It would still be a shithole.

    • @eqaruss
      @eqaruss Před 3 lety +2

      Then we would be calling Tanzania it's original name Tanganyika

  • @andrewryan3558
    @andrewryan3558 Před 3 lety +57

    We still doing the #BestAlternateHistorian hashtag?

    • @nootnoot9784
      @nootnoot9784 Před 3 lety

      Thing is when I click on that hashtag there aren't even any Monsieur Z videos there all Whatiffaithlast bokoen 1 and alternate history hub

  • @mrgreen6980
    @mrgreen6980 Před 3 lety +17

    So basically, you've created
    Command & Conquer: Imperial Alert 3
    (Except replace Soviets with Imperials)

    • @guardiadecivil6777
      @guardiadecivil6777 Před 3 lety +1

      red march to imperial march, step aside star wars

    • @knightflyer6593
      @knightflyer6593 Před 2 lety

      You are made of stupid
      George Tekai as Emperor Yoshiro
      Also that would be beautiful

  • @occamsrazor1285
    @occamsrazor1285 Před 3 lety +3

    7:47 BTW, for those interested: this map is orientated NW-SE. Across the Adriatic Sea from San Marino.

  • @Frostmear
    @Frostmear Před 2 lety +5

    This is easily the coolest alternate history scenario ever

  • @AmalekIsComing
    @AmalekIsComing Před 3 lety +3

    one of your best videos, this seriously needs a part 2

  • @justinjernigan5696
    @justinjernigan5696 Před 2 lety +3

    This is probably the most fascinating one that I've seen.

  • @krispyboi2519
    @krispyboi2519 Před 3 lety +8

    Idea: What if Harald Hardrada defeats Harald Godwinson, then William the Conquerer in 1066?

  • @cadengrace5466
    @cadengrace5466 Před 2 lety +4

    I used to run a board set up for geopolitical with members role playing as each nation in this period. The scenario of a stalemated ending to the Great War was the most interesting of the games we ran. Germany stagnated. Austria-Hungarian crumbled piece by piece in the 1920's. Poland became something of a power especially when the War with Russia went even better than in the Historical Timeline. Italy absorbed bits of the Balkans over time until it caused a new Balkan War in the 1930s. Russia in this world went White not Red and fought with the Balkan nations against Italy, while most of the world sat out. The Ottoman Empire was dismembered by Britain and France while no was looking and the Washington naval Treaty never happened. The US stock markets blew up in 1923 instead of 1929. Japan was neck-deep in China 10 years sooner than was normal but got caught short with the 1923 earthquake, stagnating them in every area. Germany retained the Colonies after the war, changing the Pacific dynamic completely.

  • @georgios_5342
    @georgios_5342 Před 8 měsíci +1

    6:42 Greece is always forgotten and underestimated, but its participation played a key role in the course of both World Wars

  • @drunkduck7160
    @drunkduck7160 Před 3 lety +5

    I like how Netherlands and Japan are just chillin' :D

  • @presidentandroid1129
    @presidentandroid1129 Před 3 lety +47

    Are we getting a reboot 👌🏻😁

    • @MonsieurDean
      @MonsieurDean  Před 3 lety +14

      We made it grander and better than ever. I'd really appreciate it if you helped us share the video around to get it some extra attention.

    • @presidentandroid1129
      @presidentandroid1129 Před 3 lety +2

      OK 👍

    • @presidentandroid1129
      @presidentandroid1129 Před 3 lety +4

      And thank you

    • @ivokantarski6220
      @ivokantarski6220 Před 3 lety

      @@MonsieurDean make a reboot where much of A&H remains. Greek empire? It's a joke. It must be a huge Italian army attacking Bulgaria. At such alternative where Bulgaria gets the land it held at the time it would have no neightbour except Turkey being able to match its army size. The Serbs will be dead out of war for next 15 years since they wont be Yugoslavia but half size. Plus stop bullshiting here with these so called Free states. A stalemate in 1916th to 1918th or so means a general win for central powers. They lose overseas colonies but gain territory at expense of Russia and some to France and on Balkans A&H and Bulgaria be sharing a fine cake. The Ottomans would be the only loser there since they were being pushed so much while non other was like that bad from central powers.

  • @vex3488
    @vex3488 Před 3 lety +19

    Alt-Alt history-
    So there’s a browser game where you alter world events and mess with the timeline. One thing you can do is extend ww1 to basically the 1000 year war. Obviously absurd as it’s supposed to be but that gives the idea of what if the war just settled into a less aggressive war and the trenches became the new borders basically. Eventually with the static borders but perpetual fight might either lead to shifts in combat technology or tactics by countries or a shift to espionage or civilian economies to try to make their nation the most self sufficient, efficient, and stable nation on the principle that something is bound to happen with time and your trying to survive the long haul but in terms of lifetimes. I could maybe see different nations evolving down different routes. UK might attempt to make a static defense around the North Sea by building sea platforms to act as sub detection and a defense bastion and well avoiding the inevitable constant loss of life from ship based blockades. France might plan to take control back of their lost territory in the long run so possibly to secretly thwart trenches they would dig underground tunnels below a detectable range, then planning mass explosions below entire lines of trenches. Germany would I suspect invest in civilian industry due to the blockade and try to suffice for their shortages. As Russia would peace out and likely become communist as the other powers are preoccupied, they may make faster advances in increasing the standards of living and general well being as they would interact much less with the war. To round it off for this to happen the US would have to likely not intervene so it may simply sell to the waring powers and maintain great economic growth threw weapon profiting and as they may end up interacting the most with any of the warring factions they may be the hotbed for intelligence and espionage. This is a fairly unrealistic idea but I just liked the concept so wanted to mention it.

  • @npc_combine_s
    @npc_combine_s Před 3 lety

    What a great concept! Great video!

  • @sirwence9949
    @sirwence9949 Před 3 lety +9

    fantastic stuff; and well done. I don't know if you'll have the time but I would love to see this alternative world after its own World war ...2 1/2 ? As how it would look in its Modern form fascinates me. Thanks again

  • @yellow5021
    @yellow5021 Před 3 lety +15

    What if the Monarchist party won 1933 german elections?

  • @Chronicler_
    @Chronicler_ Před 3 lety +95

    Twenty seven minutes twenty six seconds. Oh boy.

    • @MonsieurDean
      @MonsieurDean  Před 3 lety +21

      Howdy, pal. When's the next compilation video?

    • @Chronicler_
      @Chronicler_ Před 3 lety +5

      @@MonsieurDean I'll put one together soon!

  • @ottocooper4256
    @ottocooper4256 Před 3 lety +1

    Fantastic video, you deserve many more subs

  • @Lukdnuke_Narson
    @Lukdnuke_Narson Před 3 lety +9

    Been waiting for this one

  • @joa3815
    @joa3815 Před 3 lety +10

    I don't think that without german and italian support, the nationalist side would have won the civil war in Spain. The Republic had superior resources, manpower, and had the support of the Soviet Union. Also, France and Great Britain were keen on the idea of supporting it, but ultimately they did not to avoid conflict with germany. With this possibility out of the picture, I think that the republic would have gained a lot more of external support, and combined with superior manpower, control of the most important cities, and more resources, the republic would have probably beaten the nationalists. In our timeline, the republic started winning the war at the beginning, and it wasn't until the battle of the ebro (I think) that the tides were changed. So, taking this into account, I believe that the republic would have mostly won under these circumstances

    • @inigogarcia4266
      @inigogarcia4266 Před 2 lety +3

      Thats almost correct except the part you say the repiblic was winning, they were in a stalemate for the most, but with the foreing intervention the war sided to thw natiomalist side

  • @nooneimportant834
    @nooneimportant834 Před 3 lety +5

    Even a 1000 years after Rome fell, a bunch of Germanic bois still defeat a great Latin power

  • @danielpullen7787
    @danielpullen7787 Před 2 lety +4

    What website do you use for your maps?

  • @nathanking5617
    @nathanking5617 Před 3 lety +2

    The US didn't change the tides to the west. The invention of the tank changed the tides to the West, the US troops made little to no difference to the victory in the war, unless the war continued for several years the US troops wouldn't have made a difference. While the threat of American troops were a reason for peace, it wasn't impactful to the war itself

  • @user-kt8yp5ho2y
    @user-kt8yp5ho2y Před 3 lety +16

    What if Japan becomes the colony of the USA and What if Japan won at the battle of Khalkhin Gol? Also, the what-if Korean Empire survives?

  • @samueldavid1621
    @samueldavid1621 Před 3 lety +3

    Again, hilariously, I already made a theory about this months ago. I like alternate history too and I thought I was the only one who thought of it. Yours is an interesting and well thought out theory. If you see this, I can tell you mine if you want to.

  • @alexanderboev
    @alexanderboev Před 3 lety +1

    Bulgarian front was broken by combined forces of France, GB and Greece. And there was fighting on this front even before Greece entered officially the war.

  • @aerolynx33
    @aerolynx33 Před 3 lety +1

    Funny since I’m legit making a victoria 2 mod of this rn except the main difference is that italy was divided between the habsburg and savoyard dynasties in the 1800s and that’s what causes the stalemate

  • @kurlzzfjartson6424
    @kurlzzfjartson6424 Před 3 lety +4

    this is poggers moment the best land army in europe and the best navy in the world together now this is awesome

  • @ivanthegreat2.070
    @ivanthegreat2.070 Před 3 lety +31

    Finnaly, a redux.

  • @derrickwren7878
    @derrickwren7878 Před rokem +1

    This was the most lit I've seen a video ever be.

  • @Earl_of_York
    @Earl_of_York Před 3 lety +1

    “This is where I will leave it For now”
    You utter tease!!!
    A good video nonetheless

  • @stefanivanov3118
    @stefanivanov3118 Před 3 lety +10

    Greece didn't knock Bulgaria out of the war; France, Britain, and their colonies did, Greece (and Serbia) had a minor contribution in that. Whether or not Greece joins the Entente doesn't change history much.

    • @anakin07
      @anakin07 Před 2 lety

      But the entente troops advanced through Greece. Without these ports they can’t reach Bulgaria

  • @heybeter9505
    @heybeter9505 Před 3 lety +13

    What if futurism replaces fascism, aka the red flood timeline

    • @MonsieurDean
      @MonsieurDean  Před 3 lety +2

      Will look into it!

    • @ivanf.482
      @ivanf.482 Před 3 lety

      I like to imagine Filippo Tommaso Marinetti, famous Italian poet and founder of the Futurist Party as leader of Italy in this. Let's say futurists become a big movement and take power in Italy and establish a dictatorship. That would inspire futurist movements in all the world, just like fascism and bolshevism did with their own ideology. It would be a fascism looking forward to the future instead of backward to the past. Its hard to predict a lot, but I'm sure they would do many crazy laws and things

    • @heybeter9505
      @heybeter9505 Před 3 lety

      Ivan F. It’s more crazier, look into the lore, no one won ww1, and France collapsed and some batshit crazy actor control and turned into a futurist state where he faces many rivals and let me not get into russia

  • @EnclaveSoldier2201
    @EnclaveSoldier2201 Před 2 lety +2

    So how did the Red Flood devs get from here to declarations of war against reality, Italian Shogunate, Cyborg Russians, and 34th dynasty of Egypt in Finland?

  • @kadenwarne3476
    @kadenwarne3476 Před 3 lety +1

    Damn would love to see a part 2 of this

  • @IanSpace71
    @IanSpace71 Před 3 lety +6

    Now this is epic

  • @ontasbulent5709
    @ontasbulent5709 Před 3 lety +51

    Greece is the key. The key to everything.

    • @RB725GamingHD
      @RB725GamingHD Před 3 lety +9

      Greece is the funniest character we’ve had so far

    • @theundertaker7435
      @theundertaker7435 Před 3 lety

      Greece did not beat Bulgaria
      French British and some Greek troops
      And we hold strong
      Search for Doiran and u will se
      And Bulgaria was the only central power country which was on the parade for the end of the war

    • @TheHunterOfYharnam
      @TheHunterOfYharnam Před 3 lety

      @@theundertaker7435 that only happened because greece joined the war

    • @cryed0
      @cryed0 Před 3 lety +1

      @Silver Wolf the help you're thinking of is from italy and spain

    • @stateofconstatinopole8316
      @stateofconstatinopole8316 Před 2 lety +1

      @@theundertaker7435 if greece was in the war even galipoli might succeed because Greeks knew the region

  • @hardwing
    @hardwing Před 3 lety

    Looks amazing!

  • @priscillaadams3151
    @priscillaadams3151 Před 8 měsíci

    I like the collaboration between alternate history hub and Monsieur Z

  • @christianbertvillote3265
    @christianbertvillote3265 Před 3 lety +4

    LONG EDIT
    Can you do this for me?
    1. What if South Korea was became a monarchy (not a republic) while North Korea was still communist and reunited as a confederation?
    This was inspired by the Korean TV series called The King 2 Hearts
    2. What if in the alternate timeline, after the dissolution of Soviet Union, Russia established Russian Federation (which, at the time during Boris Yeltsin's presidency, is way more democratic before Putin era) BUT AT THE SAME TIME restoring the monarchy (which sounds totally like a federal parliamentary democracy and semi-constitutional "elective" monarchy because Romanvos are dead so a new generation of Russia royal family will take place "via national election" or some remnants of the Romanvos to rule the nation)?
    3. What if Egypt restore or adapt the Ancient Egypt system (everything from the culture, lifestyle, religion, education, laws, government, warfare, etc.) to the modern world?
    I hope that you notice and read this comment

  • @sircoloniser5454
    @sircoloniser5454 Před 3 lety +7

    Begins softly playing rule Britannia what if France was balkanised after the napoleonic wars? Please like so he can see

  • @Abby_Normal_1969
    @Abby_Normal_1969 Před 3 lety +1

    Interesting speculation. I enjoyed this one a bit more than usual.

  • @lewis123417
    @lewis123417 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Charles de Gaul suggested a union between Britain and France with shared citizenship and currency to the British foreign office after the war. The brits were of course horrified by the suggestion

  • @markusz4447
    @markusz4447 Před 3 lety +5

    I like your work. Honestly a European map instead of a world map would have been the better option most of the time.

  • @thomashoward5878
    @thomashoward5878 Před 3 lety +6

    I honestly really liked this alternate history, I would love a HOI4 mod of this now 😂

  • @luceliorodrigues7504
    @luceliorodrigues7504 Před 3 lety +2

    "They took our lives, and then they didin't usem em!"
    - Translated Viking

  • @krisplanker9640
    @krisplanker9640 Před 3 lety +2

    Did he just slight FDR?
    Good. Subscribed.

  • @colonelgraff9198
    @colonelgraff9198 Před 3 lety +8

    I want to see what if Sykes-Picot never happened

    • @MonsieurDean
      @MonsieurDean  Před 3 lety +3

      I tried this before but I scrapped it because I just found the subject frustrating. I may look into it again in the future.

  • @crownpenguin9180
    @crownpenguin9180 Před 3 lety +6

    That sounds amazing

  • @godlantern6396
    @godlantern6396 Před 3 lety +2

    Legitimately thought this was gonna be a red flood lore video lol

  • @Sn0wjunk1e
    @Sn0wjunk1e Před 3 lety +2

    honestly it would have made more sense for the western front to just remain at the boundaries of where the armies were in such a peace. it makes little sense for large concessions to be made in a "ceasefire" like you suggested this scenario would be like

  • @jamesmmcgill
    @jamesmmcgill Před 3 lety +13

    The circle is now complete....

  • @romi1_
    @romi1_ Před 3 lety +3

    Perfect timeline

  • @ervandrafadhlil403
    @ervandrafadhlil403 Před 3 lety

    I love your remake videos

  • @jacobrowe2704
    @jacobrowe2704 Před 3 lety +2

    For a stalemate/not loss, the central powers sure lost a lot of territory without gaining much themselves

    • @guardiadecivil6777
      @guardiadecivil6777 Před 3 lety +1

      no one's supposed to benefit from a stalemate, also just because they lose territory it doesn't mean much of a victory for the other side. a stalemate that truly ended with both sides not losing any lands would be a status quo ante bellum

  • @throgsneck5770
    @throgsneck5770 Před 3 lety +5

    I think it would be interesting to see a video where Mexico wins the Mexican-American war. I know it seems unrealistic but I think it would be interesting.

  • @tonyvu3235
    @tonyvu3235 Před 3 lety +4

    Damn you youtube, not giving me the notifications for monsieur z’s newest video

  • @datbo1
    @datbo1 Před 3 lety +2

    this would be a great backstory for a kaiserreich-esque HOI4 mod

  • @eliotvishnevsky5019
    @eliotvishnevsky5019 Před rokem

    Hoover didn't even have a chance against FDR before the Bonus Army Incident.

  • @purpledevilr7463
    @purpledevilr7463 Před 3 lety +9

    I like this timeline, that is a beautiful pink crossing the globe, Rule Britannia.

    • @Maritimesgestein
      @Maritimesgestein Před 3 lety +1

      With the help of Germany.

    • @TheHunterOfYharnam
      @TheHunterOfYharnam Před 3 lety

      well if noone won ww1 i find this specific timeline highly unrealistic
      most of the events described here would have taken a different route
      and many small changes would give a fastly different result

  • @KyleABaker12
    @KyleABaker12 Před 3 lety +3

    good sir I am afraid that you have greatly ignored the fact that this was to be a stalemate scenario and by the point in time you have the treaty both sides had been so indoctrinated by the propoganda of their home lands that a lack of victory would lead to civil un rest and likely civil wars in ALL of the participating nations and germany would likely have found movments simillar to the spartacus uprising , and Bavarian Socialist up rising happening earlier , esspecially with the soviets being supported by the germans

  • @redactedredacted4080
    @redactedredacted4080 Před 3 lety +1

    I wish Monsieur Z would expand on some of These scenarios.

  • @helmetguy6495
    @helmetguy6495 Před 3 lety

    You should do a video based on the homefront timeline. While very unrealistic its an interesting idea.