How to Love Your LGBTQ Family & Friends: Caleb Kaltenbach Interview - The Becket Cook Show Ep. 38
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- In today's episode, Becket interviews Caleb Kaltenbach about his new book, "Messy Truth: How to Foster Community Without Sacrificing Conviction." We learn how to best engage with the LGBTQ community.
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ABOUT BECKET:
Becket Cook was born and raised in Dallas, Texas. He attended Jesuit College Preparatory
School of Dallas.
After graduating from Austin College in Texas, Becket moved to Los Angeles to pursue his
dream of writing and acting, finding success in both. He eventually went on to become a
production designer working with the top photographers and directors in the world on fashion
shoots for magazines such as Vogue and Harper’s Bazaar, and for ad campaigns such as Gap,
L'Oréal Paris, and Nike.
Finding a new sense of freedom in L.A., Becket also fully engaged in his new life as a gay man.
He had a series of many relationships with men throughout the next fifteen years.
In September of 2009, Becket met a stranger at a coffee shop in Silver Lake who invited him to
his church in Hollywood called Reality L.A. Becket reluctantly agreed to attend the service.
After hearing the sermon that Sunday, Becket was utterly transformed by the gospel and gave his
life to Christ. He also knew on that day when God revealed Himself to him that homosexuality
was a sin and that he could no longer live that life. Becket was more than happy to count
everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus his Lord.
Becket spends much of his time in ministry speaking at churches, universities, and conferences
helping believers (and non-believers) understand this issue biblically, theologically, culturally,
and personally. Balancing grace and truth when teaching on this subject is of primary
importance. His goal is to challenge the current cultural narrative about sexuality in general and
homosexuality in particular by demonstrating through his personal testimony and biblical truths
that, yes, homosexuality is still a sin, and that following Christ is infinitely more satisfying and
joyous.
He has lived all over the world in major cities such as Rome, Vienna, and Tokyo.
Becket graduated from Talbot School of Theology at Biola University in 2017 with a Master of
Arts in Theology.
Becket’s book, A Change of Affection: A Gay Man’s Incredible Story of Redemption, with a
foreword by Francis Chan, published by Thomas Nelson, released July 30, 2019.
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When I became a believer my entire family rejected me. Sometimes we have to take a stand. God will honor it. They are all believers now.
@MarybSimmons: agreed! I have several friends who are Jewish believers in the Messiah! They do not call themselves Christian, but Messianic Jews. Their families had a funeral ceremony for them (called stting Shiva). They won’t have anything to do with them because they are followers of the Messiah. Did these individuals collapse? No, they stayed strong to their commitment to the Messiah, even when their hearts are breaking! The same is true for us if we have non-Christian family members who reject us! Remember, Yeshua said we are not truly worthy of Him until we have had family members reject us!
Praise God! Wish I could say the same for my family. 😞
That is incredible, Praise God 🙌🙏❤️
Amen you will be blessed.🙏🇺🇸🌎is dealing with this needs to leave the children out of i until they get of age 🙏
"And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields, for my name's sake, will receive a hundredfold, and will inherit eternal life" (Matthew 19:29)
Take a stand and let God heal families and friends. We will feel rejected some days. Christ said we all will for his name sake. Still, God moves mountains inside and outside for us to see. Stand firm. All praises to the Son. Peace and love everyone.
How amazing is God that we may normally have nothing in common, yet we are brought together through Christ as the body. Amen 🙏🙏
This is amazing. I am a straight Christian but I feel that the church at large has dropped the ball on LGBTQ. God loves them so do I and I believe that we can speak truth with love at the right time and be empathetic and listen. Too many times I have seen the LGBTQ be attacked, ridiculed, judged instead of loved. We have got to do better than this.
Amen!!
🙌 🙌 🙌 Jesus came to save the sinners. ALL sinners. Shouldn’t Churches, and Christians, be continuing that mission? How can they do that when they are alienating a huge group of people?
Amen. Christ died for them too
@@janellepatch3735 that's what I saying. You hit the nail on the head!
God loves his children, including gay people… the devil does not
Becket, most every time I share with someone of your testimony of how you came to Christ, I shed tears. They are tears of being touched and tears of joy for you and for the CHRIStian community. God obviously has gifted you with His plan that he has graciously invited you to join Him with.
I have been a believer about 50 years and am so blessed by your needed podcasts. May God continue to bless you!
Also, Caleb thank you for being a guest on Becket’s podcast to shed light on this issue!
Thank you
Amen!
Although I now disagree with some things he's written, I love this Phillip Yancy quote.. "I rejected the church for a time because I found so little grace there. I returned because I found grace nowhere else."
That quote is amazing
Going to a wedding is not just a show of support for the people getting married, but for the union itself. It means you are cheering for them to succeed and will uphold the marriage in prayerful support. In other words, I believe as a Christian it would be wrong to attend a gay wedding.
Sad you feel that way.
@@kennymccormick3299 It's not sad at all. It's glorifying God's name and being loyal to him and that's a reason to celebrate and be joyful.
@@eoinbrennan3949 Amen true God bless you,true believers always stand with what the scripture says,not feelings or your wish
When a believer of Jesus goes to an event that believer carries the Holy Spirit! So who is bigger and mightier? the Holy Spirit or the sinner? It is our responsibility to show love and compassion to those who don’t know Christ. If these folks are in our lives it’s to give introduction to who Jesus is!. John Bevere said, a person has to be stronger in their faith than the sinner is in their sin. so who’s stronger? That should be the answer to the question whether to attend an event or not. A person can love and not agree with choices.
You can still show love, grace and compassion to the person in some other ways.
Caleb's story, upbringing and conversion to Christianity and then converting his parents... JUST WOW!! 🙌🏽❤🙌🏽
No. I was with a friend when a lesbian couple came up and showed us their "wedding" rings, and my friend gushed with congratulations. Then all three of them looked at me. I said nothing. I won't be pressured to state approval of something I think is morally wrong. If this makes me unpopular, okay.
Are you looking for a pat on the back? I guess if you couldn't come up with a single kind remark- like, "Your rings are beautiful!" or "You both look so happy!"- it was best you remained silent, rather than give them a blow-by-blow of your moral objections to their relationship.
LOL, sounds like me at work😂 Co-workers all females believe they are married to another female, when they try to relate in conversation, I smile, kinda laugh because I was a confused person before ( Male Whore)😒 then in my mind throughout the day I'm praying for The Lord to open a door they can walk through and escape the deception.. A journey most of us have traveled..👏😎💪🙏☝👍
@@ga6589
"I just stabbed someone!"
"😳 ... 🤔... What a lovely knife!" 🤪
@@creepylittlegirl4622 Comparing stabbing someone to same-sex marriage? You are creepy... and sick!
@@ga6589- I'm not perky ♥️
(PS: Can't you find something nice to say about that?)
Hi Becket, as a Christian Marriage and Family therapist who is a clinical member / supervisor in the AAMFT and who has been practicing for over 30 years, working and daily struggling with families and individuals who have the issues you are highlighting and addressing, I just want to say how grateful I am for your ministry and the helpful insights you bring out through your videos. I just sent this video to two people who are wrestling with the very issues you are addressing. Thank you so much and may God richly bless you in your ministry.
Thank you
Ur voice is SO NEEDED! I was married to a beautiful Christian man (we had 4 children together) who struggled daily w/ his sexuality mainly b/c of being sexually abused at 11 yrs old by an 18 yr old lifeguard; this led to early drug & alcohol abuse & self-loathing & confusion when being just tossed aside by the abuser. When we moved to California in 1980, that sin was celebrated & to hear “My grace is sufficient “ when ur feeling so alone(in the church ) in ur struggle is near impossible. So, THANK YOU, Bro, for your voice of understanding and hope in Christ!💋✝️💟
@Mary Owen: Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. (Matthew 11:28 NKJV).
I’ve prayed to the Lord for you, your husband and your whole family.
The Devil used the traumatic past to haunt your husband. In the name of Jesus Christ, say No to the Adversary. Your husband is a child of God. Remember that nothing can separate him/you/us from the love of Christ.
Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. (James4:7 NKJV)
I hope this blesses some... 🙏
I was 5 years of chronic illness! I was Semi Housebound, lost my health, job, finances and my fiance left me. I couldn't even look at electronic screen for 5 minutes, or hold a 10-minute conversation.
But God did an amazing work.
I now have a Christian Channel where I encourage people and show them what God did in my life and that there is hope for you also. ✝️🔥😊🙌🏼
*Keep believing even when it's hard* 🙏❤️🔥
*All things are possible with God*
Man says: I was born this way
God says: you must be BORN AGAIN!
(I got hate for my video on should a Christian attend a gay wedding?
But I’m sticking with God’s Word over man’s word)
✝️📖🔥🔥🔥
Amen!
I agree with you Lion of Fire Ministries! My daughter recently came out as gay and I would never go to her wedding if she, in fact, does that. It’s time Christians stand for God’s word! And we should have push back from the world! If not, are we even doing anything?
God is pro gay.
@@carolbradley4845 yes! Unless we love Jesus more than family, we cannot be his disciple.
But from him love flows in and through us to others!!
But of course true love is biblical love!
@@kennymccormick3299 what scripture supports this? You're obviously a lgbtq troll right?
Caleb is precious, such grace and wisdom
Thank you for a thoughtful discussion on a timely topic. I’m a Christian with three adult LGBTQ family members who I love so much. Sooner or later a wedding is going to come up, and I feel like my relationship with these loved ones depends on how I handle this. I talked to an elder at church who urged me to pray on it and listen to the Holy Spirit. I love God and absolutely must make him #1. What would He have me do? I think of the loving Christian people who didn’t reject me when I was living crazy in the world. I think of my own many sins, and the grace that God has shown me. I pray for wisdom in this rapidly changing world I hardly recognize anymore.
I do not believe Jesus would show up to a gay wedding. He didn’t allow gambling in the church. Similar vein. I feel like attending the wedding is showing either you agree or you concede. And why would anyone want someone at their wedding who doesn’t believe they should be getting married? It just doesn’t make sense all around.
Pedophilia and incest are lesser sexual sin than homosexuality. It’s the only one described as an abomination because it involves two bio identical people. We would not go to an incest wedding, or a pedo one… that made it easier for me to decide
I would decline to attend. If they know you, they'll understand. I'm sure I'll have to do the same some day.
I really enjoy these videos. It's nice to be part of a community. It reminds me why I am on this path and it motivates me to remain focused on God.
:)
Love your "Christmas miracle" example.😆 Many times, I have said to all 3 of my kids (now 20, 20, & 17), "just because you stare at someone's legs or face or hair etc doesn't mean you are sexually attracted to them." We live in a very physique & beauty & selfie obsessed culture. Girls, especially, can suffer huge insecurities around physical appearance and spend too much time staring at females & images. I think it's gotta be confusing in these times, for teens. They could easily think they're gay when it could really be self-esteem issues.
The people who I know who are gay didn't get that way by staring at images. They knew it from a young age that they were different, but didn't have the maturity or experience to know how to express it or tell anyone. They were afraid to talk about it, because of the stigma associated with being GLBT. (That stigma is evident on this forum!) As a young female teen, I had insecurities about my appearance and would pour over magazine photos of slender female models, wishing I had all the attractive attributes I thought were important at the time. However, I never thought I might be gay or bi.
That’s because you didn’t have to accept or lob onto another identity to achieve that outcome or to even hold that outcome as a goal to obtain. You are a female, the model is a female, you didn’t have to change your gender to obtain the idea of beauty or being skinny or slender. When one looks at the idea of homosexuality and all the different things that go on within that lifestyle, there is no, I can be me and aspire to what you have (like being thin) without changing ones self and ones identity to match that of the person being idolized. It is the opposite, if I am agreeing and relating to you, I must be like you, therefore I must be gay (in order to relate and in turn become like that example) totally different psychological process. And not all instances will fit this example, obviously, but it’s a way to understand the topic.
And I’m sorry you felt less than beautiful. I believe that positive parenting and healthy role models can play a large roll in keeping girls from feeling this way. I am so thankful my parents showed me Jesus and loved me and told me I was beautiful. I’m so sorry for those who didn’t have that.
@amandazplace my thoughts exactly. I think most kids feel awkward especially in their pre teens. And with all the emphasis on gender identity coming at them even in school it’s not surprising kids are thinking they really do have a choice to switch genders😧
My Niece is Gay and married her girlfriend. They invited me to their Wedding. I did not go because I don’t feel God supports that lifestyle. I Love her.
They want you to accept they and and say their lifestyle is ok. But I visit them and try to show her I Love her. Still don’t know how to talk to her about it. I think she saw her Father go out on her Mom when they were married. So she doesn’t trust men. And went in the opposite direction. Glad to see this program on this issue -
The answer is prayer, prayer and more prayer.
I believe it’s more important to maintain “influence” or integrity with God than people, even those we deeply love. Our priority is to please Christ and not the world system, while having faith that God will change their hearts. How do you celebrate, with good conscience, what God calls an abomination? This is “ strange fire” and Christians must show love while heeding to the instructions of the Good Book. Yes it makes us unpopular but so was Jesus. He was so unpopular they nailed Him to the cross.
I completely agree with you. I’m able to have a loving relationship with my lesbian daughter but I care more about my relationship with Jesus.. I would err on the side a caution. I would most definitely NOT allow her and her girlfriend to spend the night in our home. And I will never attend a gay wedding. I really do appreciate this video though. It has helped me a great deal.
God didnt say that. A book does.
@@kennymccormick3299 and what book might you be referring to Sir?
Exactly ken McCormick take note.
@@kennymccormick3299 what book are you reading because the bible last I checked says this and also last I heard it is the word of God. Ummm when u are not saved there are things a person can't see or comprehend.
I disagree with his wedding answer because it's actually not a gray area. And you showing up at a "wedding" IS showing support for the lifestyle, regardless of how you justify it. If my child rejects me for standing on the truth of God's Word, that is her choice. It isn't my job to maintain my influence in her life. It is my job to pray for her salvation and her eyes to be opened. Jesus said that you aren't worthy of Him if you put these relationships before Him. I love my children by telling them the truth. I was asked this question, "would you attend my wedding?" I prayed before I answered and felt convicted in my spirit to simply say "No." She already knows what I believe. She knows she can come to my house, but not sleep over. If she asks me questions, I answer lovingly, calmly, truthfully. So I was disappointed by his answer that it's a gray area. God designed and defined marriage and He doesn't change. I am very solid on this answer. It's grievous. I have told my child that because I love her I am worried for the damage with which she is hurting herself that she may wake up and realize down the road, then wonder why no one warned her. I warned her lovingly up front but everyone else around her is affirming and celebrating her delusion and sin. Surprisingly, she hasn't rejected me. I truly think she is listening to me, the ONE person in her life willing to speak the truth in love while still not compromising.
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Did you know that being gay was never mentioned in the Bible ? What was mentioned is -not sleeping with young boys,
Meaning pediphilia is a sin,
the church revised this as a “gay” issue ,
Why? There were many revisions that were not original, what is the point of saying this is a sin??? It s sad & disheartening…
@@speechgirl9647 MEN WHO LIE WITH MEN WILL NOT INHERIT GODS KINGDOM! Period.
@@WampanoagNative because you want to interpret the Bible in an inaccurate way?
Why? Just because YOU are uncomfortable with someone being gay?
Do the research, see what the original Bible REALLY says & not what the changed version is, otherwise it s just
Not the truth & btw , Love is Love
@@speechgirl9647 you need to research more from well knowledgeable theologian or apologetics teachers like MIKE WINGER or MICHAEL BRIWN or GARY HABERMAS Frank Turek. Check on them please. God bless you ✝️🙂👍
I think that the increase in young females saying there are "bi" can be partly due to the LGBT influence and their own misperceptions. Can two same sex friends hang out together without someone thinking, "Are they bi?" It feels like we've lost that sense of heterosexual friendship... Also, we have to have earlier conversations with our kids about sexuality because all of over North America LGBT dogma is being introduced in elementary schools in grade 1.
They teach lgbtq+ to preschoolers
I agree with your assessment! The kids are being indoctrinated through movies, the culture, the lax sex agenda taught in school. My grandson at 12 was told in his class to commit sodomy rather then get a girl pregnant in their sex education class! He was traumatized!
@@lindaortega6000 The world is going to be the world. Teach the children the word of God through action and speech. Learn spiritual warfare
@@lindaortega6000 Not a bad option.
Yes! Innocence is now gone!
Thank you Becket - this was a brave and challenging interview, for you both to be involved in, but also for your viewers to listen to. I was in agreement with so much of what was said, but I would just like to make a general point, which hasn’t been discussed (as yet). I haven’t watched the whole interview.
My son wanted to bring a girl home with him when he was in his early twenties, but he knew we weren’t happy for them to sleep in the same room. Obviously, we could not dictate to them (as adults) what they should do outside our home, but they knew our feelings re our own premises. The same would have applied if my son had been gay; he would have known that this was something we did not have to allow in our own home. If he chose to disregard our views, then I certainly would not have tried to be some sort of inspector. The most important aspect would have been that he knew where we stood. I understand that not all young people would have appreciated our point of view, but that is not our issue. The bible is there for everyone to access if they want to know what God wants for them. I hope this is not too wordy. God bless you both.
In one of Becket's shows he said that after he became a Christian he was asked to attend a gay union. He went, but he said he felt uncomfortable the entire time. He also said in this show that he would not attend another gay union and he gave his reason. I would not attend a gay union because it is not in God's design for mankind when God created marriage between a man and a woman.
Thank you guys for another great show! I am a big fan of personal testimonies so I loved hearing Caleb's story & a little bit of his parents' stories too. Oh, P.S. Yes, media is influencing kids but I hear the biggest is kids binging youtube, where anyone and everyone can have a channel & there are a ton out there about LGBT identities. I think parents really need to be aware of what their kids are consuming on CZcams!
Straight out of the gate I knew this was a powerful one. I go through my day wondering how I’m supposed to love the way Jesus has called us to love in this tough and mixed up world. The emphasis on Grace and Truth resonated with me. And John chapter 4 should be revisited over and over. Thank you Becket. You always speak to my heart.
Excellent! Thank you Becket. These are difficult times and finding our way thru this labyrinth of confusion is hard for parents, Christians and churches. God certainly allowed you to go into the Gay lifestyle so that you could come out once again and give the rest of us eyes to see and ears to hear. I was happy to hear your guest answer your questions so closely to what I have also come to believe over the years.
Wow, just when I thought there may be some cases that may be out of reach for God (silly, I know!!), I hear Caleb’s amazing testimony. Not because he wasn’t ‘saveable’ but because sometimes we have a lack of faith that is so huge that we think ‘no way that person will want to give up their lifestyle for Christ’. Lord, please forgive me for not always seeing your immeasurable worth and believing that with God all things are possible, no matter how hard our hearts may be!!!
This show is my highlight on Thurdays.
I look forward to it, too!
Same here!
Thursdays are Becket Cook days :D ...Catherine, we got a double dose today, I hope you found his show with Eric Metaxas too
I love you Becket ❤️ another wonderful interview 🙏🏻❤️
God bless you Becket❤
I struggled with his statement "How far would you be willing to go short of sinning, short of denying your theological views."
That does not agree with what they've been asking of me.
I was asked to completely deny my beliefs and completely agree with all LGBT or there would be no family relationship. I choose to keep loving unconditionally as Jesus would. I will let God deal with the broken relationships. Keep praying for them and demonstrating the love of Christ, but do not give up speaking the truth in love.
Only Jesus' transforming power can save. Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Let's not be afraid to share the Truth that leads to eternal life!
Family always comes first.
God first
@@levans3447 Well no family always come first before anything.
@@kennymccormick3299 not according to scripture
What conditions did you lay out for your family in order for you to continue a relationship with them? Within my own extended family, there are a range of religious and political views. In order to maintain any kind of relationships, I've simply made those topics off-limits in my home. If there are conflicts of these sorts when we're in someone else's home, we leave. There is a gay couple in our family- we include them both in family gatherings. We simply don't make an issue of it, because IMO their sexuality doesn't define them as human beings. If anyone objects to their presence, that's their problem. I do avoid being around a neice and her husband, because they're toxic evangelicals and enjoy bringing up devisive topics and Bible thumping.
I really appreciate this topic because it is a topic many of us Christians struggle with. We want to extend the love and truth of Christ without people being left out but also not compromising our faith.
Thank you so much for this video and helping foster a deeper sense of empathy. Praying for all of us.
"Well, in Whoville they say - that the Grinch's small heart grew three sizes that day." (Dr Seuss)
Today mine did too 😂
So many gems in this interview! Becket & Caleb, you're pure gold 💖💖
I'm curious what he might suggest when being asked to attend a "christian" gay wedding. To many, such a union is holy and sacred. As a Christian, I struggle to know how to respond to such an invitation. Asking questions is a great first step, but I'm inclined to not attend ever in this situation, as I don't want to give the impression to others (and the couple) present that such a marriage is indeed a sacrament and that the church as a whole is in favour of this. Sadly, the church has become incredibly divided on this and some evangelical churches are affirming the idea of "christian gay marriage".
Hi there! Scripture addresses this in 1 Corinthians 5:9-11
@@Yooperchic Thanks!
There is no such thing as a “Christian “ gay wedding….
You're overthinking this. If you're not comfortable with such a wedding, simply RSVP not attending. I've yet to see a couple, gay or straight, ask for a reason why an invitation is declined. You do not need to explain yourself, although it sounds a bit like that's what you want to do. Anyway, no one needs your affirmation to get married and it's likely a gay couple is not interested in hearing your moral objections.
Love you Becket ! Very interesting and Christ centered conversations
Thank you! The first gay man we got to know as kids was attending my dads ministry. I was a nonbeliever in Christ but a false prophet of the false dichotomy that no one would choose that lifestyle of being so rejected so they must be born that way. I wondered why most Christians would reject people born like this or for my dad believe they were living in sin. This man was different to the gay men who would hang at the local toilets growing up. Or maybe I saw him differently because I allowed myself to connect with him. He contracted AIDS and was rejected by his gay community. He eventually came to die at the end of his life downstairs at the ministry because it was the only place he felt loved. My dad apparently cleaned up the biological results of someone dying. Messy love indeed! Dad never told us that story but mum eventually told me when I was trying to understand the church position. The world has done a good job in telling people who are different that Christianity hates them and that there is a LGBTQ community who will love and celebrate them just as they are and as Christians we’ve found it hard to demonstrate love to people who live a life inconsistent with our beliefs. These discussions can help us do so. Thank you.
Caleb, I truly question if attending a gay wedding is a "good example ". Just sharing my heart.
God Bless!
It does not help people when we compromise the truth
I left the life myself and I used to think I would go to one until a friend of mine who also left the life shared his beliefs on it and when you go to a wedding you are celebrating that marriage, therefore when you know it's wrong, we should not
Is not helpfull
@@lecoeur1231 it's amazing how our journey in Christ is a growing process and how "Once I was blind but now I see...". And then you can't unsee.
Its fine.
I think we need to talk about the connection between childhood sexual abuse and same sex attraction, and also how abortion can impact a woman to never want sex with a man again. I know 2 women in this situation.
My grandmother had an abortion during the Great Depression. She went to her grave at the age of 85, truly believing she was going to hell for it because that's what her crazy church taught. I know 3 other women who had abortions. They went on to get married and have kids and have said they had no regrets.
Same I know women in same sex relationships who have had an abortion in the past. They should do a study over this.
That part about childhood sexual abuse and same-sex attraction. Mmm. Definitely hit a mark right there.
There is a massive connection between same sex attraction and childhood sexual abuse. I remember seeing a study that was carried out(A university in New Zealand I think) on this issue and the results were shocking. 90% of those they studied, who identified as being gay, had suffered childhood sexual abuse. That study was attacked and buried because it spoke a truth the world didn't want to confront. Its not widely publicised but you can find that study online with a bit if digging.
@@eoinbrennan3949 Strange how some people get offended by that research. They have bad memories they want to suppress, perhaps?
So thankful for your channel!
I'm sure my schedule will be booked that day
Becket, thank you for inviting Caleb. God’s wisdom pours out of Him. His honesty and transparency is so needed. I pray God continues to bless you both as God’s mouthpieces.
Amen
Thank you! God Bless
"what conversation???" Yes, it's the Holy Spirit's job to bring conviction. Ours is to love enough to pray for revelation to those in confusion; stay convicted to the Truth of scripture while being led by love to point others to that light, without compromise. Thank you for such an insightful interview!
You continue to be such a great example Beckett of all those things. As are the great guests you bring on!❣️
Caleb definitely comes from an out of the box mindset in comparison to most Christians. I kind of really appreciated his thought processing. Especially, because it comes from a place of his life experiences.
What I agree with is Caleb’s desire to meet this culture with the gospel. The culture is evolving constantly, but the truth, unchanging. God needs His genuine ambassadors to hold the banner of love and truth up high, so those living in darkness can permanently walk towards the light of Christ.
I know that the gospel is unwavering. But how it’s truth is shared, changes with the individual and their unique life. Wisdom is necessary at all points.
Love all your comments. Learning all the time.
Thanks.
Such an important body of reference material your show is becoming for people with questions about loving and reaching out to the LGBTQ community...this episode has great questions and thoughtful answers!
This was hard- challenging. I had to listen twice. Read. Pray. Dream. Think. Thank you... again.
Thank you Becket and Caleb for this amazing chat! It’s really helped me trying to navigate my son and daughter’s gay relationships. Thank You precious Lord!
Thank you so much for discussing this issue. I think when it comes to gay wedding is definitely something you pray about before going. Pray about every situation whether it’s big or small is essential in a Christian walk x
Thank you for all the practical advice! I appreciate it when it comes from people like you two that have so much experience in these things. Very helpful.
I'm so grateful for the grace of Christ to save us , know matter what sin or sins we have come out of ! Praise the Lord for both of you coming to Christ !
Great interview! Like the fact that Caleb is honest about not always having every issue worked out in his mind. I bet he was a handful in that first Bible study he attended.
I love his definition of empathy.
I disagree about when someone tells you they are gay. What would Jesus do? I think he would tell them the spiritual truth. That God Loves them and that I love you too, but that it is not God’s plan for them. What if they die before you get to tell them? What if you never see them again? What if you were the only person that would have told them?
Real good talk, I plan on sharing with family and friends. Thanks for the video! :) 👍🏼
Just listened. Great listen. Hallelujah Jesus Christ 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻✝️✝️✝️
Thank you guys so much for tackling these questions! I so value hearing your perspectives!! I have a close friend (and there are more kids that my are my daughter's friends) whose daughter has just become a "they", and my heart for my friend and her family (I have known them for ages!) was about parents being anchors for their kids. When we were talking about what she should do, I said to her something like, "You could say, 'Out of respect for you, I will call you ____, but I want you to know, it's not what I believe about you. I believe God made you in His image as a wonderful female, etc., etc." And of course the timing of what we can say depends on the daughter/son and what they can hear. I just feel so much that Christian parents don't realize how they may be their kids "drift" into whatever is out there and we are not affirming for our kids and anchoring them in what God has already done in them and made in them.
Thank you for your ministry, Becket. My wife is not a believer and I really love your perspective, so I can better understand her post-modern worldview, and love her more.
Thanks Becket for this interview. It is so informative. It answers a lot of questions and the wisdom of what you both shared is amazing. I really appreciate your interviews! God bless you both.
Thank you so much for this, I really needed to hear this right now. I feel a bit better about this social contagion going in right now.
Beckett, you are a phenomenal interviewer. Thank you for asking good questions and allowing your guests to answer them.
Thank you for your support! I appreciate it!!
So good! Thank you, both.
Learned this: allow your kids to voice what they doubt because doubt implies a seed of faith. So helpful! Thank you both! I'm a relatively new subscriber and I'm backtracking, listening to the "oldies but goodies"! Thank you Lord for your love and grace that redeems the work of your hands!
This was super informative. I've watched it twice now, and taken notes. Becket, you're a really good interviewer; you ask great questions and you let the person talk. Thank you.
Thank you. Blessings
Thanks for this discussion. So necessary. Well done.
Thank you Becket for your wonderful broadcast. It is most helpful during these very challenging times.
Caleb Kaltenbach brings up an excellent point about churches now becoming political organizations with absolutely no biblical references or knowledge. The church I once attended calls it "social justice." One of the priests actually stated from the pulpit that he is not a shepherd.
Great informative video. Thank you. My kids and I have had enough conversations, they know where I stand on issues, but that I will always love them whatever choice they make. It's ultimately between them and their Creator.
Thank you so much, Becket and Caleb, for this interview...so much wisdom, grace and challenge in your discussion that I want to apply in my life. Blessings!
Great discussion! Iron sharpens iron! Much love to you, Becket, and my brothers and sisters in Christ.
We should Never agree with Satan! Don’t call what God made by another name! This is what’s gone terribly wrong in America’s culture! We are allowing the “children” to leverage us through fear of ending a relationship or being shamed or shouted down or worse! Stand your ground. Stand firm! Love requires the truth! If my adult “child” wants to be actively in a homosexual relationship, I can’t tell them what to do. I can, however, require them to respect my home and my values and not even think to ask. It would be no different than my child bringing home a friend and wanting to shoot up heroin under my roof. Not happening. Love must be tough.
Thank you so much for this video, I believe we all need to see this, I most certainly did. I learned a lot and will be putting what I learned into practice, not just with this topic in particular but with many topics that make me uncomfortable
I have enjoyed this video SO MUCH!
Thank you for this!!
You are a blessing Becket Cook. Interview with Caleb is very educational. A blessing from both- thanks!
It is indeed “messy”, because you don’t want to promote homosexuality, at all, yet you do love the people, as Christ does. In heaven “we shall know as we are known”, meanwhile we fumble through but must follow our consciences as He enables
Nothing wrong with homosexuality though.
@@kennymccormick3299 ?
It only gets "messy" if you want it to be. As with any wedding, if you can't or don't want to attend, simply decline the invitation. No one is ever asked to give the reasons why. As the old adage goes, "Never complain, never explain."
@@ga6589 I'm pretty old and have never heard that "adage".....
@@faithburns8379 "Never complain, never explain." -Benjamin Disraeli (British Prime Minister in the 1870's) The phrase has also been associated with British Royalty and Winston Churchill. It means: sometimes it's best to stay quiet. I'm not British, but my mother said it all the time.
Attending a wedding IS by default affirming the union. It was unbelievably painful, but I could not attend my straight sister’s secular wedding ceremony. To this day she still says (regarding me), “you may not like what she says, but she’s the real deal and willing to be hated by others so as not to displease Christ.” Praise God, she renewed her vows in the Church, in front of God. Truly LOVING someone sometimes means being very unpopular, but if we really have their salvation in mind, God uses our sacrifices and sufferings to bless them in His time.
So you didn’t attend just because she doesn’t share your religion?
So good! 🥰 thank you!
I don't agree with parents allowing their adult kid to bring his boyfriend for Christmas. We have brought up our kids to respect us as their parents and that means respect for our Christian beliefs. We don't have gay kids, thank God for His grace, but we would have loved them the sane, but would never have gone to the wedding, that would, in our minds, just affirm their choices that they would know go against what we've taught them. It would be their choice to reject the gospel and they would have to bear the consequences thereof. We would still love them and welcome them, but not as a married couple, they'd have to sleep somewhere else, not in our home.
Beckett i agree about the culture thing being the influence . Remember "they are coming for the children " as sung so well by the SF Gay Men Choir . Kids these days are completely confused .
Thanks so much Caleb and Becket 🤗 that's really helpful ❤
Great conversation. The questions are challenging but important to work through.
This man was kicked out of the house by his parents for coming out (as a Christian). Pure irony.
Goes to show that nobody is really 'open minded', no matter how much someone claims to be. Nobody likes to make concessions to his/her fundamental beliefs.
Very true!
EXACTLY
I thought the same thing… esp when his mother use to believe Christians all hated gays and then she in turn “hated” that her son became a Christian and may even hated him at the time… very hypocritical lol
Oh bless this marvelous man!!!
This is such a informative and thoughtful conversation. I really appreciate this
Thank you both so much for this.
"What would you do to keep influence?" What kind of influence could you possibly have once you have lent credence to a same-sex "wedding" by attending it? I think the idea of attending to support the person but not the union is absurd. I'm not familiar with this gentleman, but I must say I'm disappointed in several of his statements. It is imperative to love and respect the person, but never acceptable to send mixed messages about the Truth.
Those mixed messages may be your truth, but it's not what's true for many others. If your conscience doesn't permit you to attend a same-sex wedding, oh well. I doubt any same-sex couple would be heartbroken not having you present or not having your blessing.
@@ga6589 "My truth" and "your truth" are the problem. There can be "my opinion" and "your opinion," "my experience" and "your experience," but two conflicting, even mutually exclusive premises cannot both be called "truth." Truth is objective, and our job is to seek it out tirelessly throughout our lives.
@@byzyt6931 There are no objective truths about the validity of any religion. That's why there are thousands of faiths being practiced around the globe and why they're called faiths. Trying to find the one-and-only "true" religion or belief system is just chasing your tail. There simply isn't one. "Believe those who are seeking truth; doubt those who find it." -Andre' Gide
@@ga6589 You'll notice I said that, in reference to truth, "our job is to seek it out tirelessly throughout our lives." And my comment made no mention of religion.
Thank You For The Insight! Much Food For Thought 🙏
Hey Caleb!! I feel like I know you and Beckett since I follow you both and share your materials 😅. You have spoken a few times at my church Westside Family Church. I have been hoping you would be on Becket’s show 😁!
Thank you both for helping us navigate these things as a church body!
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Hooray its my mate Becket 🥰 my relationship with Jesus is messy lol. Hi Caleb 😀
Look at the individual. Great advice.
I loved everything he said (except the part about The Last Jedi. That movie was fantastic). Glad you had him on
I went to Catholic school my whole life... my parents never gave me the birds and the bees talk 🤣
I tried to be fair to, encourage, and love the homosexual in my family. In return I got abuse and meanness.
To love people is to tell them the Truth as Jesus did , not what they want to here so you can go along to get along!
Great guest. I've seen a couple of his interviews including his story on CBN.
Love u tackle the tough issues!!!
Thank you!
Lesson learned.
Thank you for sharing your story.
I can walk a mile with someone....very true.
❤ watching & listening to this. Just 👍🏻. This podcast show is one of my favourites on CZcams. God bless
Wow! What an amazing story and interview! I love to see God’s work.
What ever happened to his friend in the hospital? The one whose friend stopped Becket from visiting because he's Christian? Anybody know if he gave an update?
Praise update coming soon!
I've been wondering about that!
I have been wondering too.
@@BecketCook HI Becker I have a question, my friend just recently went back home to pick up his adopted baby that he and his husband will raise, he will be coming back by the end of this month, when he backs back he will probably expect me to congratulate him, I don't know what to do, because I sure don't agree with this decision, neither did I agree or attend his wedding with his now husband, we're still friends and I really care and love him, but I don't know how to react when he comes backs or what to say?! Do you have any suggestion as how to go about this or how do I answer in a Chrhris and loving centered response? Thanks you 🙏
He posted an update on that ❤️
A great and very helpful video! Thank you so much again! Peace of Christ! ❤️
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