The Frontiers of Psychedelics | Michael Pollan | The Tim Ferriss Show
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- "An overactive ego is a tyrant." - Michael Pollan
Michael Pollan (@michaelpollan) is the author of seven previous books, including Cooked, Food Rules, In Defense of Food, The Omnivore's Dilemma, and The Botany of Desire, all of which were New York Times bestsellers. A longtime contributor to The New York Times Magazine, he also teaches writing at Harvard and the University of California, Berkeley where he is the John S. and James L. Knight Professor of Science Journalism. In 2010, TIME magazine named him one of the 100 most influential people in the world.
His newest book is How to Change Your Mind: What the New Science of Psychedelics Teaches Us About Consciousness, Dying, Addiction, Depression, and Transcendence, which will be available as a paperback in May.
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00:00 Start
02:05 What are psychedelics?
04:43 Psychedelic renaissance
27:31 Michael’s psychedelic experiences
41:24 Resistance to the renaissance
52:39 Online resources
54:30 Psychedelic forecast
01:13:06 Investing in psychedelics
01:20:51 Other resources
01:23:12 Finding a guide
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Be your consciousness while on a psychedelic journey, it’s a the game changer. Here is a short video about doing this,. czcams.com/video/nIulqf2nF6Y/video.html What do you think??
Its from the DIY psychedelic guide thefungiant.com/psychedelic-guide/ that guide will be helpful for anyone trying to use psychedelics for healing and growth
Psychedelics completely changed my life for the better. Can’t wait to see these substances become more widely accepted and eventually change the world
Same here. Did them when I was young, high school. Helped me work on negative aspects of myself. Decades ago. What I can remember is looking at myself from an outsiders perspective. They were classic "bad trips". Called by some , challenging trips, now.. which I like the sound of that better. Not fun at the moment, but can be life changing events.
There is still a stigma about them. Did dmt for the first of many times about 6 months ago. Its the opposite of "fight club". Once you do it , its hard not to talk about. Im older , sober guy now for a long time, but mentioned journeys to friends even clients. They all look at you in a strange way. Well not all, the ones that have done psychedelics before can relate a little. But for me that was only one person.
I dont smoke weed anymore, but the stigma on weed is much less than it was in the past. More culturally accepted. Psychedelics is moving in that direction. Will take years and will take the efforts of people who society in general deem as respectable , vs stoner types posting trip reports.
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Microdosing = no more nasty pills, for a lot of people.... 🙂 Or "nano" dosing -- taking a super tiny dose daily, or almost daily, for depression/anxiety/adhd/etc.
Same
40:37 "The opposite of spiritual is not material, the opposite of spiritual is egotistical. It is our ego that keeps us from the connections."
I have yet to hear anyone adequately define what spiritual really means for me..
Consciousness vs. self-consciousness?
material is ego, let go of all illusions
Ego is elf consciousness, as a being.
Spiritual is the realm of having the form of a man without his material “tent”. It is also enlightenment. In that realm is eternal life if you can find Him.
Mushrooms have helped me maintain sobriety for the past 2 years after battling alcoholism all my life. Further, I stopped taking Seroquel for bipolar disorder a year ago and haven't had ANY symptoms whatsoever. Amazing and true.
Very well done and I wish you the very best for a bright future.
I’m getting ready to delve into the psychedelic realm again. It’s been 30 years and I’m both excited and terrified. One thing I’ve done that I didn’t do when I was a “kid” was take ownership of the medicine. No “street vendors” for me. A couple of years ago I started a perfectly legal cactus garden and now after all this time, one of my “babies” is dosage length. I believe the level of commitment and care I’ve put into this plant from the moment she was a seed to now will make a difference in the experience. She will take care of me like I did her…at least that’s how it works with my cannabis. I’ll let y’all know.
My CZcams channel name
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good on you!
I'm in a similar situation, time-wise (30years), but with unexpectedly inherited cacti - so missing out on the special personal connection. Do let us know, please, I for one am v curious!
Very interested!
@@jacquelinesimpson6672 👆 👆look up that handle, he ships swiftly, and he got shrooms, Dmt, lsd, mmda, psilocybin, chocolate bars, he got a lot of it.. 🍄 💊🍄🍫💯🔌....
My experience with magic mushrooms is that it won’t necessarily “cure” depression or addictions but can show you ways to cope and or shed light on the dark corners of your mind. It can be very beneficial if taken with a kind of respect.
They show us the way, but it's up to us to walk the path. 💜
@@mamasmurf7830 Perfectly said!
@@mamasmurf7830 that sounds right. Especially microdosed
I can agree with you in they won't directly cure depression or addictions. They definatly destroyed my psychosis though.
Took magic Mushrooms with my younger brother-in-law 30+ years ago at a campfire in Eastern Washington. Great camping spot by the Teanaway river.
Ended up seeing the Northern lights! I will admit that we were sure that Aliens 👽 were landing! However we ended up waking the wife and Sister and she was not tripping! She then pointed out that there were no aliens and just what the hell were we doing taking drugs!?
Absolutely a great experience and since Roger is no longer with us a great memory of someone I am proud to call little brother!
RIP Roger!
We get the trip we need, not the trip we want
This is so true. I had such a good trip my first time, the second and third was me coming to terms with things I now know I was suppressing.
Thats only true if we dont misuse it.. And often people think they just use it but they actually are big time misusing it.. And then there is no "you got the trip you need".. At that point you can fked up yourself really really bad
Need and DESERVE..
👆 👆look up that handle, he ships swiftly, and he got shrooms, Dmt, lsd, mmda, psilocybin, chocolate bars, he got a lot of it.. 🍄 💊🍄🍫💯🔌....
Either one I'm For it!
Tim doing a great service to humanity, hope Sweden will change but Sweden has become a backward country where nobody takes responsibility and only point to the system. After 15 years of depression, and countless drugs, kkt, training, I had the opportunity to try psilocybin and I did 3 sessions medium dose, exactly like pollan say, it was for me a dialectic terapi and the mushroom or sub self spoke the truth, it was so.....if not for me, the best experience in my life...to experience a glimpse into the history of human development...
I am off all medication. I still have some problems, but my constant worries and anxiety are reduced by 80%.
Hey, do you also where/are addicted to substances (opioids) due to your depression and anxiety?
If yes, did the mushrooms also helped you with that?
@@rolux4853 first I insist on that these substances should be use with a experience guide and health control, dialog with a psycolog therapist. And be ready to open your mind to the experience and then work with it...
i belive that in life, we can't find the solution until we are ready/open. the psylosybin helped me to defrag and syncronis my mind. It helped me look at my self differently and my roll in this world. This new perspective and understanding helped my change my mental addiction and gave my new perspective that help me se the truth and what matters in our life, this made my depression less severe. It helps the mind, not my bodys cravings.
Iboga did remove my cravings for all substances. BUT i had not fixed my mind. So i continue with my addiction mentality but in lesser degree. Not until i did psylosybin i did understand. It's my view if life, my values, my why, that i can choose to suffer for a reason. This was over a period of 2 years.
Iboga did help me to feel happy again. Something i forgot how it was due to depression. BUT it only last for about 3-5 weeks.
But a profound effect.
Psylosybin = mind
Iboga = more physical
Note: this is my experience. And a simplification of both substances and the experience in whole. You must Do the Work, You must still change your life by choosing. I believe that Meditation is absolutely 100% critical to do in order to change your life and mind. Ps. 🤬 The more you hate meditation, the better effect it will give you 🥳😉 after..
This is amazing. I have had lifelong battles with depression. I would like to try the mushrooms in a clinical dosage and in a proper setting, but I am not aware of any opportunities such as a clinical study
I had no intention of watching this whole video until I started listening slowly and carefully to this man Michael pollen and he must be one of our smartest people in the country
His books are good reads. He has a great voice. Focused mainly on food earlier in his career.
@ayy lmao What does he get wrong?
Be your consciousness while on a psychedelic journey, it’s a the game changer. Here is a short video about doing this,. czcams.com/video/nIulqf2nF6Y/video.html What do you think??
Its from the DIY psychedelic guide thefungiant.com/psychedelic-guide/ that guide will be helpful for anyone trying to use psychedelics for healing and growth
Great talk! One correction on what Pollan says at about 1:18:00 : In the Vietnam war, TWO MILLION and fiftythousand people died, not just fifty thousand, those were just the American deaths. For the rest: thanks for the awesome discussion of the subject!
Thanks for sharing. Definitely information that needs to be stated.
Yeah, I was thinking the same. He meant to say "Americans" and he just said "people." I think it was an honest mistake and not dismissive of the tragedies suffered by other peoples. I hate making those super cringe mistakes that almost look like an indicator of deep evil or some such... When it's JUST a slip of the tongue mistatement.
Set and setting, respect for the teacher is paramount. If you approach a psilocybin with serious respect and written goals, you will emerge with answers and insights that were otherwise unavailable to you. You can seriously change your life.
Im older now,, no desire to trip balls for hours anymore.. Used to lsd and shrooms quite a bit as a teen and young adult. Helped me change or work on some negative aspects. Which I think helped pave a better future for the decades that followed.. Being "wiser" now have thought before just what mention.. If I used them with respect, with goals, maybe I would have gotten more out of them,, vs. using them as a party drug. Which psychedelics really are not party drugs. I see that now. Hopefully by opening discussing these things the young and future generations will use these things with purpose vs. doing them just to feel weird and see weird things.
One good thing about the internet is at your fingertips information and even varying opinions.. Back in my day, in high school, home computers were not even a thing.
Can confirm.
The soul always know what to do to heal itself. But the challenge sometimes is to silent the mind! 🎆🎇
Or better yet, line them up together!
It's not the mind you're quieting, it's the ego that you're trying to quiet and defeat.
@@Ty91681 i think its far less about defeating the ego and far more about healing it.
You can't defeat your ego it is part of who you are but you can tame it
@@kieransmyth2283 who would be the one taming it? Something or someone other than the ego? Something behind it? The I or the consciousness or the soul? Or is it the ego taking itself, this sounds like an exercise in futility.
Not every trip is fun but I’ve never regretted a psych experience when done. Always attained something
I always say there’s no such thing as a “bad” trip. A trip may be unpleasant for part or very rarely, most of it, but once you get past the peak you can reflect and unpack what happened and gain something, ending on a positive note
every single time. even the “negatives” that may have came with a trip still contained some true positivity in the end for me
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The wavy wall pattern behind Michael's head on one camera's view suggests 'waves of insight' streaming out of his head as he speaks. Outta sight man!
when i read the book in 2019 (was the last book in the library) really change my mind, my grandmother died by alzheimer and from that time i'd been curious for the brain and the functionality, but I discover M. Pollan by the chapter of psychedelics in Netflix. Later, when i trip the first time, my mind had a complete reboot when i was a dot travelling over the universe, floating, and my mind arrive in a moment when all my thought starts from the beginning haha and i didnt recognize if I really was I - mindblowing-, is the most great experience of my life.
After read the book I went to study the mind so i had to bought a lot of books (huxley, think fast think slow, camus, etc.) so now im a more complete(? person, also i start did meditation that year months before of buying the book.
Thank you both by this interview, i'm from chile and live in the southern patagonia.
Regrets to all.
I feel like psychedelics allowed my soul and humanity to surface when i first took an interest to them. Like i _really_ opened my eyes for the first time.
I still carry massive weight on my shoulders from a really traumatic past (unrelated to psychs) and I've gotten extremely stuck in my life because of it, being a former escapist opioid addict etc..
But I've at least learned to have love, empathy, understanding, and happiness to be my primary feelings and vibes towards others. That's exactly the energy i wanna radiate.
I don't judge others as much, i don't harbor resentment and jealousy that much anymore.
Instead I try to appreciate every single second I'm alive.
Even if I'm a former dope addict who lives in poverty, barely has enough money to eat, no job etc.. at least I'm not one of those judging and ignorant and hateful robot-like people who treat me like a complete failure and not even human.
But I don't really care that much, i don't measure success on the same scale as them.
They're the ones who are missing out on life ✌️❤️
Yet your comment has you judging those who judge you. You're better than that. Good luck to you
@@lastnamefirst4035 that's kinda missing the point. I don't really hate people who wanna live like that, it just.. really doesn't make sense to me at all. Such a waste to live their whole life being intentionally a massive negative influence on others, :|
But meh, live and let live, I hope everyone can find their inner peace some day.
But my original point still stands, I'd rather live my life being exactly what and who I am. For positivity and love, instead of negativity.
And I guess I kinda am judging people who live to drag others down with them, or shamelessly using others as stepping stones for their own happiness/success, and punching down at people like me. It's a basic moral principle. Boils down to: "don't be a dick"
But that doesn't still mean what you're implying. Hope you have a better day :|
Re read your comment and I find nothing to disagree w. ✌
Jeez guy. Very moving. I'm 50 years old and have struggled all my life. I had a difficult childhood (lol), escapism, opioid addiction, prison, etc.
Life is long. You have a lot of time here. Be kind to yourself, and don't try to do too much. We can't really fix much of what's "wrong" but just keep slinging those vibes guy. That's the highest we will ever be able to achieve anyways why sweat over stuff that really doesn't matter when you close your eyes. I never thought, in a million years, that I would be where I'm at "in life" right now. You have time. I hope to see an update someday.
I am same like you,my brother)but i still on dope and think to use iboga....
Greetingsfrom southern Ucraine!
Michael Pollan is such a creative thinking and lucid communicator. Reading his latest book certainly changed my mind :)
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Be your consciousness while on a psychedelic journey, it’s a the game changer. Here is a short video about doing this,. czcams.com/video/nIulqf2nF6Y/video.html What do you think??
Its from the DIY psychedelic guide thefungiant.com/psychedelic-guide/ that guide will be helpful for anyone trying to use psychedelics for healing and growth
Excellent interview. They did not mention a phenomenal book titled Trust Surrender Receive by Ann Other. It's all stories of MDMA experiences, and profoundly moving. It led me on my journey, and I have found an attendant. Doing pre-med therapy right now and will do integration therapy after. Don't give up. Look for psychedelic meetups in your area, where you can find people in the know. Create relationships there. Good luck and peace to all.
I actually learned of Tim Ferriss from my dad, who is big into diet and exercise, and learned of Michael Pollan through JRE, and was ecstatic when I read his name in 4HB by Tim Ferriss.
I never thought that someone my very drug averse dad greatly respected like Tim Ferriss would ever be such a proponent of psychedelics, and I love that fact.
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Be your consciousness while on a psychedelic journey, it’s a the game changer. Here is a short video about doing this,. czcams.com/video/nIulqf2nF6Y/video.html What do you think??
Its from the DIY psychedelic guide thefungiant.com/psychedelic-guide/ that guide will be helpful for anyone trying to use psychedelics for healing and growth
Michael Pollen exudes peace and tranquility and an open mind. Don't know how much of that is him or how much is the drugs but I love it.
perhaps, even on drugs, he's still him
Its him. Now. 😉
From 1968 to 1973 I took psychedelics Approximately 300 times. It was my drug of choice in the 60s/70’s. I believe it’s allowed me to gain much insight. It finally ran it’s course as the last time I took it it just made me cry. It was a sign I had reached the bottom of my psyche and my course this direction was complete. I believe since that time it has given me great insight into myself, other people, society, and spirituality that has been invaluable.
18 yrs old in 68...nonmotivated...traveling...took a tab in Boston Commons...was amazed at the interconnection of everything...could feel things from throughout the world..knew we were all so connected..took off my clothes and started to preach to people about this....police came...I began to realize that the various towers I saw around the rooftops were beaming mind control on everyone...that they had recivers installed..and I did not...but that would change when the police took me to the hospital....ouch!
Can't say this experience helped or hurt...
This was too good. I actually thought Michael had been on the podcast already. Just shows how far and wide his work has gone. Thanks Tim. You are doing an amazing part in realm of understanding these amazing compounds.
I've listened to this 3 times. It's amazing I love hearing this discussed by intelligent, knowledgeable professionals. Break on through
True! More prominent people must dive into this matter!
The only way psychedelics go mainstream, get accepted is through respected professionals
Break on through, to the other side, YEAH!!!
Be your consciousness while on a psychedelic journey, it’s a the game changer. Here is a short video about doing this,. czcams.com/video/nIulqf2nF6Y/video.html What do you think??
Its from the DIY psychedelic guide thefungiant.com/psychedelic-guide/ that guide will be helpful for anyone trying to use psychedelics for healing and growth
I want Michael Pollan. If you have something that you really want in your life, spend lots of time thinking about it. The more you think the more ideas will pop up the more creative your gonna start to get. Your subconscious mind doesn't care if your vision is crazy. It doesnt care if you dont know how to do it.
When you see a thing clearly in your mind, your creative "success mechanism" within you takes over and does the job much better than you could do it by conscious effort or willpower.
A different psychedelic from a different planet every nanosecond.
All sorts of dreams are possible.
The human nervous system cannot tell the difference between an "actual" experience and an experience imagined vividly and in detail.
Synthesize "experience," to literally create experience, and control it, in the laboratory of our minds.
A vision is a very emotional image, the most powerful image that you can come up with for yourself at this time. This vision will become like a hallucination in other peoples mind and this could be the cause of them creating extraordinary things.
Eye shades and music. No, outside in the dark, away from any city, possibly a small fire. When it comes on strong, then you lie back, with your eyes closed. Have a buddy that is experienced or a trusted sitter. Stay away from cults, or "resorts".
So worth a listen - maybe two. The hypothesis that depression, anxiety, and neuroticism are ‘stuck’ syndromes, and contrasting these with the fragmentation of schizophrenia, personality disorders, bipolarity …. this exactly fits my own observations of who psychedelics can and cannot help.
Micheal Pollan’s ability to communicate blows my mind and motivates me
The way Michael explains the psychedelic experience over the first 15-20 min is incredible. Spot on. Great interview!
Don't just take them, I made a lot of researches on shrooms,was really curious to take them,thanks to adam_shrooms on instagram,he came through for me and guided me. I get my mushrooms from him too
I have always loved Tim's speaking style and mannerisms. He's so eloquent and articulate. I'm so glad I found 4HWW at the bookstore of my college in 2009. His book blew me away and I started reading his blog right after, then came his other books, podcasts, the random show lol, etc. What a great learning journey it has been. 😊
What's that book?
@@51MontyPython it was the "Four Hour Work Week" by Tim Ferriss.
How has tim impacted your life from the time you found his book until now?
Just hearing what Michael Pollan said from 19:30 to 22:28 has changed some of my thinking very deeply. Thank you Mr. Pollan.
Just meeting this Mr Michael Pollan.. I'm glad it went to the next video or I never would have seen this. This guy is an absolute genius. A pleasure to listen.
and with an ego to boost!
Michael is a very brilliant speaker and able to put into words what is seemingly ineffable.
I just dropped 3 hits of LSD on the beach in Cancun last month and sat there by myself all day. Thousands of miles away from home. I was in awe of the vastness of the ocean. The turquoise waves spoke to me. The cotton clouds had a message. The Sun was my Lord. I felt the mightiness of nature as I was tossed around in the water. I felt significant and insignificant at the same time. So... back to reality now, if that's what this is.
KingOfKings savage.
Screw that bro go to work and be a productive citizen we need grit not appreciation for existence what are you doing with your life?
I told the story of a single day in my life and from that you assume I’m not productive and that I haven’t done anything with my life? Can I take a day off and go to the beach please? Thank you.
@@JBrooksNYS Friend I was being sarcastic. I'm happy for your experience. I know a friend that has had positive outcomes.
I have done similar trips. But with shrooms, and a tiny Lake in a small forrest. 😊 ... Perfect discription mate 💪. Greetings from Denmark...
Can't help but to reinforce Mr. Pollan's comment, that a meditative practice can get one to the same place and is safe to use everyday.
Yeah, true. But it's nice to meditate with a micro dose sometimes.
Have to earn it?! Aw mannn..
@@cactusmalone if you don't have a life to begin with,they won't give you one . However,going into it for the purpose of gaining insights to be applied later,and for the change of perspective,very helpful. You'd need to be a real adept to get there from meditation.
Listened to Michael Pollan when he was on JRE. Saw that this came up and had to watch it!
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huge advocate of psychedelics as a tool for shifting consciousness- outside of the context of circumstance. i just don’t think we should be calling them drugs ..they don’t seem to carry the same characteristics 💕
I know exactly what you mean. Think about how we call drugs "medicine" and the perception changes. Calling opioids "pain medication" makes them sound much more safe than they are. I typically call them psychedelics and I tell people I think of them as a medicine, not a drug.
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I understand what you mean. But that is the point in a way, that drugs per se are actually good things that humans have known how to use beneficially for millenia. The connotation of abuse needs to be quashed. Problems we associate with drugs are usually socio economic, psychological and systemic. The aggressive policing of drugs that then occurs compounds the problem.
The rat thing reminded me of my uncles dog, used to raid bins- the day that he got the mushrooms discarded after making a tea was the last time he raided any bin. Really blew the dogs mind!
This was amazing. Watched it fully and wasn't bored once. Thank you!
Yeah, Michael is right. You really have brought us so much, Tim🙏
Fantastic interview between two incredible intelligent and articulate people and an absoltuely fascinating topic. Thank-you for posting.
Recently I tripped on low doses of mushrooms a couple times, home alone. Both times my mind zoomed in on two separate traumatic experiences, which I d been trying to process for several years. I hadn't planned that...I was gonna clean house and look at the night sky. But my brain had a different plan. Is that anything to do with suppression of the DMN? Anyhoo, maybe I cleaned house in an entirely different way. I feel a little more free.
You cleaned the upstairs house!
@@LaurenOliviArt in my own language, I had to clear out the lighthouse. It's still a mess, but at least I know what I need to do. I don't know if I can....or maybe I know I can. Thanks.
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@@lisbethbird8268 It's growth. We learn with each experience. It's unbelievably beautiful to me how convoluted this whole Universe is and how we are all connected. It really is an everblooming, evercreating, everchanging, yet always the same flower of life.
May I ask what the traumatic experiences were?
What a fantastic interview! Thanks, Tim! And thanks to Michael Pollan! I’m very interested in the therapeutic benefits of using natural substances to help people better deal with any number of issues inhibiting their abilities to enjoy a fruitful and meaningful life experience. Thank you both for bringing more light to this amazing work being done to help all of humanity! Much love and respect to you both!
It really Works wunders in regards to PTSD. 💪 ... But: read & learn ... Then good preparation. And a quallified guide.
The best discussion is one where you feel you are part of the discussion. Well done.
Trip_bank on IG recommended and guided me for my microdosing journey hit them up they also ship and grow shrooms and avoid being scammed
Huge thanks to both of you.❤👍
This is a very deep, authentic and inspiring interview about this very important topic.
Psychedelics are like a detox for the mind and soul. Hits the reset button and flushes out all the unnecessary bullshit your ego has been clinging on too.
This is the best video, i have ever seen. About psykadellic treatment!! ... And yes. Good preparation, and a good guide. Is so important.... Everything he said is true.
Listening to this on my commute today, 2/3rds of the way in. Great interview, great work... thank you!
Saw this when it aired, Indulge myself every once in a while. My favorite Re-Run :) THANK YOU
So beautiful
the model we need is already in existence, it is the therapeutic community households set up in the 1960s and 1970s. I spent 3-4 zrs living in one of these houses oi London in the mid to late seventies. It worked! It takes time, its about experience, and yes we were already making use of psilocybin in the therapeutic context, one on one and group.
That is the therapeutic communities set up by dr. R.D.Laing.
How has your life been effected, in more recent years? Do you feel the drug experiences put you on a different projective? More conscious than if you had not experimented psychedelics during those younger years?
@@davidgrantgordon are these communities persevering?
@@kirstinstrand6292 yes there are a few in London, and a few simar ones.in the states
Ill.post a link
There are different strains of mushroom and they have different effect on how they react in the body and I can tell you it’s the best natural substance for depression, anxiety, ptsd and more mental illness for real, I get mine delivered from an online vendor that specializes in the trade and growth of psychedelic products, very reliable
It's so cool seeing video with the podcast now!
Thank you Tim for this great convo with MP! Very useful.
Safe travels my friends... Safe travels
Take it easy dude! But take it!
I've heard so many wonderful things about magic mushrooms but I can't easily get some, Is there any realiable source I can purchase from??
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@@freddonovan2978 Yeah, he's got magic mushrooms, LSD, dmt etc
@@joachimlunares4871 alright, I'll reach out to him immediately to get some
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Interesting to hear Michael talk about induced schizophrenia or psychosis froma trip and also mention that there may already be the preconditions for this to happen as before hand there maybe self medication etc...this is exactly what happened with my brother many years ago now back in the 80's.He had been smoking copious amounts of cannabis and had taken acid a few times but this one time he had a bad trip which culiminated in him being hospitalised and diagnosed with schizophrenia and told he would be on life long medication.
Whilst I agree it is true this could have happened anyway as the prerequisites I think were already there in our family dynamic essentially and generational trauma I now believe due to my own expereinces which were not brought about by psychedelics but after a severe depressive episode which opened up a break which could be better described as a spiritual emeregnce or awakening but with psychotic features maybe or what to all intents and purposes could look like psychosis on the outisde but inside feels more like a spiritual awakening and of the qaulities very much described by Michael here and others who take psychedelics.
What I have reason to think now that much of what we call schizoprenia or psychosis also has a healing potential if dealt with and responded to in the right way and not simply diagnosed and medicated and also traumatised by the psychiatric system itself not to mention the stigma of society etc.
I do believe what gets labelled schizoprehnia is again much misunderstood and a psychotic break in itself might be the minds attempt at trying to heal itself and re-organise itself into a more coherent whole just as Stan Groffs work on holotropic breathwork was trying to do and who worked with psychedelics also before they were made illegal.He noticed how intense breathwork could induce similar states to lsd.
I think it is great that such things as micro dosing psychedelics are being researched with possible use eventually in a mental health setting but I also think its important to keep other modalities open to such as breathwrok and meditation and somatic based therapies.
I also think ist really important as he later mentioned that these so called disorders"are indeed not discrete objective entities in themselves but merely DSM fictions which are nothing but the grouping of symptoms and are subject to change depending on who is assessing or making a diagnosis at the time.They are often highly subjective and culturally bound ideas and labels of behaviours considered by an observer who has not other context often for the persons behaviour.Nothing is ever asked about that persons history or trauma or even whether it was a drug induced psychsois or even a sleep deprivations induced or other stress induced psychosis.
Basically under certain conditions anyone of us could become psychotic or schizophrenia given the right conditions.In fact the best way to understand many of these so called disorders in through a trauma informed lense and as Michael says some maybe more biochmiecal in origin but there is not evidence to show this.
Michael should really do a talk with Crazywise director who looked at the overlap between those labelled with schizophrenia and the shamanic experiences he had documented from years of travelling to shamanic cultures who talked about this kind of break down being a call to shamanic initiation.We need to start looking at schizophrenia and psychotic sysmtoms ina different way and not merely as symptoms of pathology in the same way people are reenvisioning depression or anxiety and symptoms trying to tell us something that needs attending to and that something is off balance.
Dosing someone for the first time without their knowledge is very dangerous and people like that are why we can't use responsibly.
Yes,that is a terrible idea! The CIA was toying with doing just that to our enemies to make them think they're going crazy and for brainwashing. John Lennon said that they were trying to control our minds and they ended up freeing them.
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This is the video I needed to watch before fully investing in companies like Mind Medicine.
@Happy Boi To have trust in the foundation of the company. Aka is it a solid basis, does the product work. Still risky with big pharma chasing money and not results.
this is Watts level philosophy here i just found another spiritual mentor to add to my list i love this dude
Not even close but okay
Truly amazing..
Very useful information to take in for moving forward in all the ways discussed.
Scary what he said at 59:00 about the possibility of sexual assault in regulated therapies. It’s horrifying.
Psychedelics saved me.thanks to trip_bank on I G for being genuine.he sells the best psychy products he got shrooms,LSD,dmt,choco bars,mdma &others❤️🍄
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This is great! Keep em coming!!
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The background it literally moving behind, him cover the top half of one of those squiggly lines and see
OMG what he said at 38:00 and forward is so profound and resonates with my experience so much
This is exactly what meditation can teach us, for those who want to go there without drugs.
What a brilliant and beautiful mind...
Psychedelics saved me.thanks to trip_bank on I G for being genuine.he sells the best psychy products he got shrooms,LSD,dmt,choco bars,mdma &others❤️🍄
Thanks for uploading 🙏
Thank you to both of you for bringing this to public. Psychodelics changed my mind. You are making a world a better place. I wish soon all of psychedelics will be decriminalized.
I'm hoping that we just get rid of Government soon
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@@cactusmalone please site reference for your claim that 50% of people who use psychedelic drugs murder their family. Its claims like these that prevent progress.
there is no profit in curing people, there is more profit involved in medicating. companies cant survive without profit....bam. end of story... follow the money and you know why things are as they are. LOVE Michael Pollan, he is much better with words than I am.....cheers!
I will comment after i try it myself and confirm what i already feel in my heart and soul is true that i Believe will be similar to your experience. Maybe even better now that you selflessly dropped your wisdom and providing me extra confident and appreciation. You the man.
Bought mine in an online store where I got my stuff delivered districtly to my location...
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I had a Mantid scan my brain when I was 15. It was mind shattering and enlightening and took me decades to process.
Great interview, thanks !
This is a great interview. Tim had some great questions and the interviewee had even better answers.
Speaking from personal experience I've never done any drugs or any other substance yet I've had many mystical experiences beyond anything I've read in a drug experience. Beyond even the "dissolution of ego". Being sober while being completely "gone" is the most sobering experience a human being can have.
During my experience I had no hallucinations I only saw myself as everything. Which doesn't make any sense to me even now. Unfortunately I wasn't able to integrate these experiences, because if I did I would be considered a self realized or enlightened being. Too bad I missed it.
Only now I'm back on my path working very hard towards knowing what this reality is.
The only way to the truth is to seek it. The only way to seek it is to value the truth over your own life.
The rest of us are part-time seekers. These people on the show are part-time seekers. I'm a part-time seeker looking for a full-time position.
I'll see you on the other side 😉
Were you meditating ?
@@SefriouiAmineballout no I was in the middle of an argument with my wife then I took a bite of Chipotle burrito and I was fucking gone.
This experience happened to me dozens of times over a period of 18 months at completely random times. If I was able to flip on and off like a switch I would keep it on 100% of the time. Haha
It's been 7 years since my last experience and I am only now "picking up the pieces". I don't claim to know what happened to me or why but I do have general sense now. This general sense has helped me get back on path for realizing my ultimate nature (and/or) realizing the nature of reality itself.
It's important to note here that "Self-Realization" does not mean you come to a sudden knowledge (as the term realization might imply). If that was the case I could sit you down on the couch and explain in very plain terms just what there is to "realize". This is not the case. The "Ultimate Truth" cannot be captured in words or understood - it can only be "seen" or "witnessed". The best that any human being can do is to integrate this into their daily life. I am of course proudly speaking of the next step in human evolution: super-conscious.
I hope this helps clear things up :) ... insert mountain of questions here -->
It was beautifull mate 🍻
Psychedelic psychiatry has enormous potential.🤞
We need to overcome certain prejudices and invest more in research.
Excellent choice of Canada in the province of Alberta these days. 👏
I really hope and pray America will let us breathe
Interesting, however there's another level of mystical experience where you meet your spiritual peers and discuss the world, and you enter and exit as you please.
Atheogens is a term I resonate with. In the midst of chaos and angst, the shrooom cools it all down where you dwell with the theos that is true to your happier sense of being when facing others in defence.
You probably meant Entheogens (theos within)? 😊. Atheogen would be closer to its opposite (no theos).
awesome to listen, thank you
Thankful for people like Michael for his passion for humanity and the betterment of everyone unlike
The Pharma Cartel, whom are the sole reason why Nixon banned psychedelics and now that they have a little skin in the game, suddenly it's okay to use for studying because now they are beginning to profit even if the profits are slowly coming in. SMH
highly recommend these ambient artists while on psychedelics: Altus, Bing Satellites, in the branches, Thom Brennan, Robert Rich, Steve Roach,
thank you
Here's one for you to try: wildambience.com - high quality birdsong recordings. I know it's cliche but it's truly something different to music at the peak of a mushroom trip. I think it's because the brain knows that the sounds are made by other conscious agents and not 'dead' things like instruments.
Listen to Tool.
Debussy;Faun,Dances for Harp and Strings,3 Nocturnes
Faure;Pelleas & Milisande suite
Bowie;Low..the 4 Night pieces
Return to Forever; Romantic Warrior
Why not put some of my picks on your playlist..you've got 6 to 12 hours. There's no accounting for personal taste,but I'm a part-time psychonaut and Music Composition major,so I kinda know my stuff. It's all instrumental,and fairly mostly non-threatening,colorful and pleasantly moody.
@@Mandragara great idea!
Good interview. His book loads more dry and juicy fun. I loved it all. History and mystery.💝
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As all is yin/yang, I hope MP truly experience both Aya/ grandmother and San Pedro/grandfather. Together they do clean our Soul so our body may heal as we awaken.
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oh snap . gonna be a good one
Imma go show my family this
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Great interview.
Keep Austin weird. Thank you both for the enlightening dialogue. I learned a lot.
48:20 that's incredible. Brains connected in ways non physical.
I'll probably make my next video on psychedelics. They had such a big impact on me and made my life turn to the better :) One day this will be a common treatment for mental illnesses of all sort.
Agreed
@weenis
And who are you "weenis"?
What exactly is a "mental illness" anyway?? What exactly determines that someone has one?
It is no measure of mental health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society..
@@Snide01 Depends on the severity of the symptom. For example, its normal for everyone has anxiety, but if it inteferes with your day to day activity than its pathological. For depression, its normal to feel depressed after loosing someone, but its pathological if it becomes chronic and inteferes with your life.
@weenis "And who the hell are you?"
Grateful for your channel.
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I have had 8-9 good trips of Magic mushrooms
What I realise now is if we don't abuse them and consume them in limited doses it can be the best thing for your life...
It helped me leave ciggeretes and now I don't even feel like smoking anything or alcohol.
Shrooms are a blessing on earth 🍄
I have synesthesia and felt the part where they talked about listening to music and the ego dissolving as you become the music, is a very common occurrence for me daily, especially when I listen to music prior to sleeping
There are different strains of mushroom and they have different effect on how they react in the body and I can tell you it’s the best natural substance for depression, anxiety, ptsd and more mental illness for real, I get mine delivered from an online vendor that specializes in the trade and growth of psychedelic products, very reliable
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Dark star crashes, pouring its light into ashes
Reason tatters, the forces tear loose from the axis
Searchlight casting for faults in the clouds of delusion
Shall we go, you and I while we can
Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds?
Excellent
Excellent
I am going to shave my head now to reach a higher state of conciousness.
They both have nice hair
I was just thinking “ they are both bald “ … then I saw your comment and laughed my ass off.
I guess psychedelics make you go bald. I was suggested this video after watching Psyched Substance.
@@connectedevolution being bald makes your head a better conducter for Astral projection
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Soon we'll be seeing commercials for psilocybin for depression and the long list of side effects at the end will include "may cause hair loss." 😆
Thought I was tripping when I saw the background artwork of waves move
Lmao and it's subtle like being on a low dose.
Brilliant
1:18:24 Okay Michael Pollan!!! 👏
Sheesh.... I had the same kinda trip with the same kinda thoughts. Its was life changing in a good way. Thank you for this video
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There should be a trial that combines DBT therapy combined with psychedelics. I think that would be a good set up for lasting positive change for individuals with complex mental health issues.
Ketamine is used with some DBT and CBT treatments for suicidal ideation