The Science of Psychedelics - with Michael Pollan

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  • Is there a role for psychedelics such as LSD and psilocybin in healthcare, and can they uncover things about our consciousness?
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    How could LSD and psilocybin help with mental health, palliative care and addictive behaviours? What was the point of a psilocybin mushroom evolving the way that it did? Michael Pollan explores the “second wave” of international research and discusses what psychedelic drugs may teach us about the mind, human consciousness and their potential effect on our future lives.
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    Michael Pollan is a bestselling author of books on human nature and nutrition, famously the 'Omnvivore's Dilemma'. In mid-life, he turned his attention to one of the most intriguing stories of the 20th century; the scientific promise and cultural burial of psychedelic research and its renaissance today in the public conversation around mental health, palliative care, addictive behaviours and a loss of personal meaning and connection in modern societies.
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  • @aaronv2photography
    @aaronv2photography Před 5 lety +374

    Psychedelics cured my suicide depression and got me focused on my life again.

    • @mokujin29
      @mokujin29 Před 4 lety +5

      It is temporary.

    • @Clearsignalwellness
      @Clearsignalwellness Před 4 lety +50

      Generic Girl really? Cuz I had an amazing psychedelic experience 5 yrs ago and I’m still happy :). Perhaps it depends on the person 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @leyzei7745
      @leyzei7745 Před 4 lety +12

      it dépends on the person, @@Clearsignalwellness when the person has no integrative structures when back home or otherwise cannot change his/her life because personal resources are lacking, the effectiveness is reduced. Still , it definetely helps with death anxiety, to my opinion.

    • @mokujin29
      @mokujin29 Před 4 lety +3

      @@Clearsignalwellness Good on you.

    • @mokujin29
      @mokujin29 Před 4 lety +2

      @@JibberJabJones NO man I am spewing the facts out here.

  • @jmab2502
    @jmab2502 Před 4 lety +24

    "There are times when the poets get there first". That´s amazingly beautiful

  • @a0um
    @a0um Před 5 lety +225

    "The opposite of spiritual is not material, is egotistical". This has been for long overlooked and seems a necessary correction of the mainstream narrative.
    Good lock!

    • @Brascofarian
      @Brascofarian Před 5 lety +10

      spiritual often seems about the ego to me. "I'm getting messages from the devise creator" and "we pass into the afterlife and live for eternity" are two of the most refined, egotistical statements one could make.

    • @rdizzy1
      @rdizzy1 Před 5 lety +3

      They need to come up with a new term for it then, because for millenia, spiritualism has been directly connected to religious dogma. I mean spirits themselves have to do with the wandering souls of dead people (IE-religious bs)

    • @rdizzy1
      @rdizzy1 Před 5 lety +3

      "Concerned with or affecting the spirit or soul" is inherently religious. Almost all atheists do not believe humans possess a "spirit" or a "soul".

    • @rdizzy1
      @rdizzy1 Před 5 lety +2

      I would imagine most agnostics would say there aren't souls or spirits as well. As anyone with a logical mind doesn't believe in things with no evidence. There is no physical evidence of a soul or a spirit existing within the human body. Science is not a form of faith, if you believe it is, then we all know where you fall on the religious spectrum.
      I guess I suppose I should've used the term "hypothetize", rather than believe, but anyone with a speck of intelligence knew what I was talking about. You don't start off believing everything that everyone says until someone proves a negative, you have things backwards. Attempting to shift the burden of truth onto others when they (usually religious individuals) are the ones making the inherent claim that souls do in fact exist.

    • @rdizzy1
      @rdizzy1 Před 5 lety +2

      To be frank, I'm not the one making the definitive claim, the individuals that insist that a soul or spirit exists are, the burden of truth ONLY exists upon them to provide evidence or "proof". See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot for an example of how ridiculous this thought process is. Or the Hitchens quote, "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence".

  • @wethepeople1023
    @wethepeople1023 Před 4 lety +161

    No wonder why they are illegal. They help people

    • @noneofyourbusiness5433
      @noneofyourbusiness5433 Před 3 lety +3

      If top comment still existed, this would be top comment

    • @ems7623
      @ems7623 Před rokem

      That's a silly comment. So cynical. Medical science is frustratingly slow - even more so when the government has a panicky reaction to "drugs" for 50 years. But there are countless medications which we have discovered and invented in the past 140 years which help people, as you should know. Psychedelics were made illegal because they scared enough of the wrong people at the wrong time.

  • @JeanWu
    @JeanWu Před 3 lety +27

    YES. I'm a medical student who recently finished reading this book, and I absolutely LOVED it. Having a history of mental illness, anorexia, binging, depression, the ideas in this book really elucidated the mechanisms of mental illness. As I am training my mind to see it as a "snowy hill" (the analogy described in the book), I am learning to see that where thoughts go, energy flows. I also am trying strategies to reduce blood flow to my DMN, such that I can be more fully conscious, present in the beauty of life.
    Also created a youtube video on this if anyone is interested in a summary! It's called "what psychedelics taught me about mental illness"

  • @Lelabear
    @Lelabear Před 5 lety +38

    Well, my immense respect for Michael Pollan has reached new heights! His curiosity about life is leading him to ask all the right questions and explore truly profound subjects. So impressive.

    • @feYslYa
      @feYslYa Před 3 lety +1

      this should be every individuals goal

  • @steelyman08
    @steelyman08 Před 4 lety +8

    I loved the book. I've read McKenna, Castaneda, Huxley, etc. So when I heard that a man who was famous for his books about food had written a book about his underground experiences with psychedelics, I was intrigued, but skeptical. I think I finished it in 2 days! It's an excellent read. Thank you, Michael Pollan!

    • @blackmamba6046
      @blackmamba6046 Před 4 lety +1

      I have just bought it. I did three ayahuasca ceremonies a few weeks ago and it's been an amazing experience. I'm such a fan of psychedelics and so I can't wait to read his book. I have bought also one of McKenna's books. I'm so fascinated by this subject.

    • @steelyman08
      @steelyman08 Před 4 lety +1

      @@blackmamba6046 True Hallucinations? McKenna? That one is farrrrrrrrr out there! I still enjoyed it a great deal. I hope you enjoy the Pollan book as well. There's also a Graham Hancock book on the topic as well. Take care (wish I was able to be more involved in all of this currently, but life just isn't permitting that right now.
      P.S. Graham Hancock has some decent videos on YT about Ayahuasca. Gabor Mate is another who has really been a pioneer on the topic. I wish I could attend a few ceremonies myself ~ very much. I have been in the realm by taking a homemade variant, but the ceremonies with proper guidance & company would be far superior. I hope your journeys continue to be fruitful (-:

  • @saaniaki
    @saaniaki Před 5 lety +26

    I've watched many many videos and documentaries about psychedelics, but man, this talk was the most enjoyable one.

  • @TooLameToDie
    @TooLameToDie Před 4 lety +1

    Psychedelics helped form the man I am today and I am highly grateful for LSD-25 and psilocybin.

  • @artschannel1359
    @artschannel1359 Před 5 lety +12

    I love this topic! I had just finished my cotton candy flavour Ice Cream when I saw this video. I'm so high.

  • @bgoodfella7413
    @bgoodfella7413 Před 4 lety +14

    I've done acid and mushrooms a few times many years ago. I always loved it and enjoyed doing them. Never had a "bad trip" although felt kinda paranoid at times temporarily but that was in response to any strange "alien" environment. I would do them again in a heartbeat if I could.

    • @quadq6598
      @quadq6598 Před 4 lety

      Well why not just go online & buy some, could not be easier

    • @darfer3740
      @darfer3740 Před 4 lety

      @@quadq6598 so pls give me a hand here, before my doctor convince me to take all sorts of pharma drugs to keep me under control and not actually fix my issues. May I send you my email?

  • @steelyman08
    @steelyman08 Před 4 lety +15

    "Hofmann's Potion" is a really good documentary about the LSD research that was going on before the sixties put an end to it all. It's here on YT for anyone who might be interested (-:

  • @mankutdatdaruni4653
    @mankutdatdaruni4653 Před 2 lety +2

    23 years ago I had a full blown kundalini awakening after taking psilocybin. It dramatically changed the understanding I have of myself, the world and my place in it. I was an atheist up to that point, but afterwards couldn't deny that there is a benevolent entity that at the source of all things. It speaks to us incessantly and its language is love. I no longer fear death, which gives me a totally different perspective on life. The experience changed my life in ways I can not begin to describe.
    I wish there were more education about psychedelics and spirituality, because there is obviously still a lot of misplaced prejudice and ignorance around.

    • @brandinoagnewbus6726
      @brandinoagnewbus6726 Před rokem

      If I may? How could you trust that the internal psychedelic experience you had purports to reality? How can you trust that the experience you had if god was reliable or accurate? I ask because different accounts of different dirties exist and how am I or anyone supposed to be convinced by that?

    • @HarpreetSingh-xg2zm
      @HarpreetSingh-xg2zm Před 6 měsíci

      ⁠@@brandinoagnewbus6726a little late but from my personal experience. It just feels very real, not a dream. No way to communicate that feeling convincingly and it could be argued it was just the brain chemically experiencing something but I still would say it was very real and true. I don’t think anyway to convince you without you having a first person experience.

  • @tensevo
    @tensevo Před 4 lety +13

    This is mind blowing! ....or should I say, Mind Manifesting?

  • @karync.6707
    @karync.6707 Před 4 lety +1

    Mega Kudos to folks like Micheal Pollan, who use their relative celebrity for the greater good!

  • @tensevo
    @tensevo Před 4 lety +10

    I had come to the same conclusion about time being past present and future all at the same time. It is quite apparent that we do not live in a clockwork universe.

  • @ZombieHitler
    @ZombieHitler Před 5 lety +2

    This was published on my birthday, automatic like.

  • @kataklysmdl
    @kataklysmdl Před 5 lety +2

    great book by the way, half way through so far

  • @TechnicFlow
    @TechnicFlow Před 5 lety +5

    Was on the fence about tripping today.. then this autoplayed while I was doing something else so there's my sign.

    • @wave9199
      @wave9199 Před 4 lety

      SySnacc how did it go? Tell us about it

  • @Uiru11
    @Uiru11 Před 5 lety +144

    Here's my two cents, a few shrooms cured my depression in high school.

    • @Mortiis558
      @Mortiis558 Před 5 lety +17

      Histewy Cured mine in college. I still think everyone should do shrooms twice a year.

    • @SausageDynamo
      @SausageDynamo Před 5 lety +14

      I wouldn't say cured, but it definitely drastically reduces symptoms and allows you to process your emotions and situation more easily.
      Yes! It's annual for me

    • @Mortiis558
      @Mortiis558 Před 5 lety +4

      YellowFellow Honestly for a while I would say I was cured. I wasn’t depressed, I was able to accept things better, didn’t have panic attacks, for a few months. I’m just not able to get them as regularly as I’d like.

    • @Uiru11
      @Uiru11 Před 5 lety +4

      YellowFellow Okay I agree with you. Maybe cure is a bit too strong of a word. I would rephrase and say I felt more aware and in control of my emotions.

    • @91722854
      @91722854 Před 5 lety +5

      here's my shrooms, two cents got me another bottle of coca cola, cured my thirst temporarily

  • @jamiewilson2088
    @jamiewilson2088 Před 4 lety +2

    ‘There are times when the poets get there first’ nice quote, il use that👌

  • @topcat2069
    @topcat2069 Před 2 lety +1

    When I was young (16 to 25) I used Psychedelics all the time. My feeling is that they are such a personal experience that making them just a clinical tool, taking them out of the hand of the voyager is, to my mind, an OK thing, but they should be available to everyone. I would never take a Psychedelic with a "guide". I don't recommend that stance for anyone but me but for me it works.

  • @Ag-ry7hi
    @Ag-ry7hi Před 5 lety +2

    Now I know how Carlo Rovelli got his insights on time!

  • @kimfab1973
    @kimfab1973 Před 2 lety

    There are times when poets gets there first 💐 Bath of love! Beautiful quote ❤️

  • @BronxBomber-mf9hl
    @BronxBomber-mf9hl Před 4 lety +25

    Joe Rogan has entered the chat

  • @OpenMind3000
    @OpenMind3000 Před 5 lety +24

    Good talk.

    • @TheSPFPR
      @TheSPFPR Před 5 lety

      Wie kann es eigentlich sein, dass ich bei einem interessanten Video immer ein Kommentar von dir sehe😂

    • @fernandoruiz2719
      @fernandoruiz2719 Před 3 lety +1

      If you are misinformed will be a good talk...
      You should learn more about the origin and cultures that practised healing with SACRED PLANTS and no middle man required just the Shaman or Curandero and the person subject to be healed and SACRED NATURE of this practices.

    • @georgejohn4334
      @georgejohn4334 Před 2 lety

      Pp

    • @PWizz91
      @PWizz91 Před 2 lety

      Good input

  • @thechunkyone7118
    @thechunkyone7118 Před 5 lety

    From watching random videos on various subjects leading onto more,somehow it's lead me to dmt and psychedlics. id never even heard of dmt 3 months ago.is this the universe calling me☺ i find it really fascinating and one love to experience it.

  • @simonelaird846
    @simonelaird846 Před rokem

    This experience he is sharing is so clinical and formulated it's like everything organic and sincere about the mushroom experience was lost and sadly he is totally unable to identify this. It's like he read the textbook on what your end goal is during the trip and then executed it and is holding up the A+ he got for it

    • @simonelaird846
      @simonelaird846 Před rokem

      @Guerrero Stella one of a kind results that can never be repeated

    • @simonelaird846
      @simonelaird846 Před rokem

      @Guerrero Stella a tripping syllabus will be provided for anyone interested

  • @r.b.4611
    @r.b.4611 Před 5 lety +1

    Loved this guy on the Waking Up podcast and JRE.

    • @NyaricusDLZ
      @NyaricusDLZ Před 5 lety +2

      London Real also had Michael Pollan on, likewise a great conversation.

  • @KindOldRaven
    @KindOldRaven Před 4 lety +6

    I think any psychiatrist handling these sessions must have experienced high doses of psychedelics himself at least 5 to 10 times before giving these therapies. There's no way they can ever guide anyone if they don't know what it's like. Anyone willing to argue me on this: don't. I'm right on this one.

    • @jacobdicken6916
      @jacobdicken6916 Před 4 lety +2

      Kind Old Raven I believe that 100% I’ve introduced several people to these experiences and I had to guide more then my share and I know that I could do a better job curing they’re issues then any psychiatrist with a pen and pad who hasn’t been into the inner consciousness themselves

  • @RobbieFrazer
    @RobbieFrazer Před 5 lety +95

    CZcams comment sections would benefit greatly from putting LSD in the water...

    • @Beautifulcoil
      @Beautifulcoil Před 5 lety +6

      Sadly it’s extremely hard to find. Most of the “LSD” that’s being sold today are low-quality analogs that provide some nice visuals but not the same mindset. Look up Hoffman’s trip report or the video of the woman who did acid during the 60s from less than 150ug and compare it to your own experiences. It’s a completely different substance.

    • @metanumia
      @metanumia Před 5 lety +4

      @Beautiful Actually today it's far easier for people in the West to find and purchase extremely pure psychoactive substances, including LSD-25. This is due to the proliferation of deep web drug markets that utilize consumer reports (user reviews), and third-party escrow payment holding services to hold sellers to their word far better than a "street" seller is held accountable, which is basically not at all. In the past, purchasers had no power and dealers on the street could put all sorts of analogues, inactive substances, or even poisons in their products and the user would be unaware until ingestion (unless they had access to GC/MS or HPLC chemical testing equipment or a test kit). Because of these Amazon-like drug markets, the purchasers of drugs are empowered over the sellers, because the marketplace is fundamentally structured to reward honest sellers who ship accurately-labeled, pure substances and punish dishonest sellers who ship laced or inaccurately-labeled substances.

    • @Evan-rl1rn
      @Evan-rl1rn Před 5 lety +2

      @@Beautifulcoil its super easy to find, you can even get similar lysergamides legally online

    • @EssenceOfHermes
      @EssenceOfHermes Před 4 lety +1

      yes definitely

    • @EssenceOfHermes
      @EssenceOfHermes Před 4 lety +1

      @@raptornugget5385 more so there isn't any good acid

  • @mdroeder1
    @mdroeder1 Před 4 lety +2

    I am very glad that pyschoactive substances are being researched again. All these drugs should be legalized so that they can be taken in a safe and legal set and setting, with the proper dosage and guaranteed quality. As the AI machine age is approaching, our biological brains and their capacity to experience consciousness are still the best guarantee against losing our humanity.

  • @williamprice4406
    @williamprice4406 Před 5 lety +3

    If you want to be scientific, then looking at the same problem from multiples ängles or states of consciousness seems like a great idea.

    • @REDPUMPERNICKEL
      @REDPUMPERNICKEL Před 4 lety

      Yep. Ya can't get a good take on a sculpture without looking from more than one angle.

  • @MrRobertito17
    @MrRobertito17 Před 4 lety +1

    I seriously need to find my way to the "underground community" since just like Mr. Pollan, I fell in the "normal" category and therefore not allowed to participate in the research study. One of my bucket list in life is to have this spiritual experience that I have been longing to experience because I know I will be blown away by the idea of seeing myself as part of this great universe. If anyone who is reading this with proper information, please email me. I know the right ones will come along. :-) for the record, I am seeking to be High but rather for spiritual enlightening and awakening...

    • @natureheals2
      @natureheals2 Před 4 lety

      Very simple :look for an ayahuasca retreat

    • @MrRobertito17
      @MrRobertito17 Před 4 lety

      @@natureheals2 I wish there is one that is not so costly. If the intention is for spiritual enlightening, there has to be a community that governs such community.

  • @robby7292
    @robby7292 Před 2 lety +1

    17:05 has someone a link to this "face"?

  • @TerryNails
    @TerryNails Před 4 lety +2

    Good talk, though I find it hard to imagine someone taking psychedelics and not in the very least suspecting the existence of the universal mind. To think of the brain as the source of consciousness as opposed to it being a function of consciousness says to me that these exploratory missions he was undertaking didn't go nearly far enough to completely breakthrough the illusionary subject/object boundaries of ego based perception... As an adventurous writer I give him an A+.. As an explorer into the deeper realms of consciousness I give him a C-

  • @MessiahNerves
    @MessiahNerves Před 4 lety +1

    thats so odd the location of here fear and hopelessness lines up with the asociated chakra interresting

  • @sknt
    @sknt Před 5 lety +17

    Expected more about how psychedelics interact with serotonin or other receptors in the brain and how they modify them. I didn't completely finish the video, but so far it's just a guy talking about things he heard from someone else.

    • @paleopapa8599
      @paleopapa8599 Před 4 lety

      Read Terrance McKenna’s “Food of the Gods” for the shroom and DMT info u seek! Audible has it as an audiobook...loved it

    • @DvitusR
      @DvitusR Před rokem

      Then you need to watch more of the vudeo

  • @jasongrig
    @jasongrig Před 4 lety +1

    the last 20 mins were much more valuable than the rest of the clip.

  • @maddoxbromley6426
    @maddoxbromley6426 Před 5 lety +4

    Man I know what he is saying about not looking in the mirror. Had the exact same experience. Wonder what it is about that?? Same also with looking around just to make sure reality still existed.

    • @Schwing27
      @Schwing27 Před 5 lety +1

      Maddox Bromley 100% agree. Anytime I’ve ever been high, I can’t look into a mirror. It freaks me out if I do.

    • @whatsupbudbud
      @whatsupbudbud Před 4 lety

      Dr. James Fadiman in his book 'The psychedelic explorer's guide' actually recommends the guide to try to use a mirror on the person who's tripping. Emphasis on the word try.
      But really I just think that you're timid about seeing your face melt away, haha.

    • @REDPUMPERNICKEL
      @REDPUMPERNICKEL Před 4 lety

      Recommendation: set up your tents among the trees, not too far from the lake, in a provincial camp ground on the May 24th long with a few hundred of your high school peers and drink a bottle of Old Sailor or two while sitting round the fire in your dozens singing House of the Rising Sun with acoustic guitar accompaniment so that when you wander down the lane to take a pee in the brush, you are in a mood to kiss the pretty girl sitting on the hood of the car in the next campsite and swallow the innocent looking little piece of blotting paper with the picture of a three-eyed-toad impressed upon it which she fetches from the nefarious looking driver of the long, wide, low, grey, Chevy which had been slowly, slowly crawling up the lane through the smokey twilight mist. Later, when your floating upside down buddha shaped self image wrapped in green fog rights itself and slowly extends, one-at-a-time, feet to the ground and the fog lifts, your adventure with the sphinx and the glowing jewel bedecked trees and the noble lions who are your brothers, is about to begin.

  • @GlassDeviant
    @GlassDeviant Před 4 lety +6

    This video has a BIG problem with getting quieter and quieter as it progresses, and it's not the only video from RI that I've noticed sound problems with. Someone at the RI needs to hire a competent audio engineer.

  • @jameskaufmann765
    @jameskaufmann765 Před 2 lety

    I like these guys.

  • @biecoblu
    @biecoblu Před 4 lety +2

    "If people knew, the society would embrace it". Yeah but Big Pharma would never allow such a big market (like antidepressants) to be lost

  • @Acsion42
    @Acsion42 Před 4 lety +3

    It’s definitely true that the use of psychedelics inhibits authoritarian and conservative beliefs, and while that was a problem in the regimented days of the 60’s, i think we’ve come to a place as a society today where we value individuality and originality more than conformity and order.
    Psychedelics have the potential to promote those qualities that we need in an increasingly rapidly changing world, and I think they might be the only way for us as a species to avoid running off the cliff.

  • @stevephillips8083
    @stevephillips8083 Před 5 lety

    What are the evolutionary paths for mushrooms that make psilocybin? People talk about the effects on us, but what does the mushroom do with it? Defence against eating doesn’t seem plausible...

  • @rursus8354
    @rursus8354 Před 4 lety +1

    Now I want a cup of coffee!

  • @rahbeat9785
    @rahbeat9785 Před 4 lety

    i wonder what Thiery David album or song he's talking about

  • @AlvaSudden
    @AlvaSudden Před 3 lety +1

    What good is knowing this if you can't get any mushrooms?

  • @11thstory
    @11thstory Před 5 lety +1

    We appreciate Pollan's contribution and also had the chance to meet Robin at the Science of Consciousness conference in Tucson, AZ. A worthy conference to check out.
    We are interested in altered states of consciousness as our channels deals with the intersection of science and experience. We also like to combine ideas with composition. Our latest experience in music. www.reverbnation.com/11thstory/song/29877029-psychonaut

  • @neilcreamer8207
    @neilcreamer8207 Před 4 lety

    I think it's interesting that people talk about psychedelics changing consciousness. Psychedelics change what, or how, we experience but the consciousness which has the experience is the one thing which remains constant in all of this.

    • @supercoolja7417
      @supercoolja7417 Před 4 lety

      He meant "reality" and not Consciousness. Psychedelics changes your conscious view of reality.

    • @SelcraigClimbs
      @SelcraigClimbs Před 4 lety

      Well is consciousness an extant thing separate from experience? Or is consciousness the totality of individualised experience? If the latter is the case, then psychedelics changing an experience of reality is definitionally changing consciousness.

    • @ems7623
      @ems7623 Před rokem

      I had this thought too. i think I am among the many people who would be more willing to try psychedelics for therapeutic purposes, if there wasn't so much sloppy spiritual and mystical hokum which surrounds it. All that jabber makes it very hard to come to a concrete understanding of how I might respond.

    • @neilcreamer8207
      @neilcreamer8207 Před rokem

      @@SelcraigClimbs I don't think consciousness and experience can realistically be separated.

    • @SelcraigClimbs
      @SelcraigClimbs Před rokem

      @@neilcreamer8207 I agree. thus it would be the case that consciousness is altered in these states.

  • @spek1174
    @spek1174 Před 4 lety +1

    anyone have a link to the chelo music they are referring to?

  • @frost1947
    @frost1947 Před 4 lety +1

    Experiencing eternity or what certainly passes as this regardless of our adapted shortcomings has for me been a very less than enjoyable ride, inside a grinding three-dimensional repetitive turning of the reality endlessly repeating on itself and doing this forever, the term "forever" knowingly happening not as a idea or notion but hard realization gives a Hellishness not leaving me with a desire to ever have this experience again. The cliche' of "time not existing" compounded to a unique permanence I'm not so sure it didn't take me a few lifetimes to escape. I'm left with the question; was it worth it?

  • @beinghumanwithcgjung1002
    @beinghumanwithcgjung1002 Před 4 lety +4

    If considered that CG Jung already described those experiences in much more sophisticated details and in scientific psychological research almost 100 years ago, should make those gentlemen feel rather humble considering that they are leaders of a talk which barely scratches the surface. Terrence McKenna would have a lot to add to their questions, he also took his learnings mostly from CG Jung. The gratitude Jung receives from the world of psychology today is "We have gone beyond those old timers and no longer need them" Modern psychology as it stands is the least informed on matters of the subjective mind and is acting like a bratty child in the sphere of the spiritual experience.
    How they can seriously raise the question of the distinction between the here and now and the "otherworldly" as a supposedly new question is quite sad. When the distinction between the temporal and the non temporal, of the experience that is linked to our life time in relation to the experience of the millions of years of natural development and then the transcendent on top of it, the subjective and the collective etc. , has already been elaborated in such a rich manner throughout time and again in great detail by Jung. Re-ligio ...linking back to the source, means to connect with a collective aspect if existence which did not come to be through our subjective ego but is an aspect of the experience of life which we all share and have shared for millions of years. Yes that collective entity is in fact a "source" tp which we need to connect if we don't want to lose our little minds that have been around for only a few years in relation to the eternal. If you steer a boat across the ocean and decide to ignore the waves that naturally occur on it, you will end up in serious trouble.

    • @bryanl.morrison552
      @bryanl.morrison552 Před 4 lety +1

      I have always wondered why the beings described by trippers are not definitely referred to as Archetype. I suppose it may be more complex than that, because the beings are purported to communicate profound revelations, but perhaps encountering them is not nessecary for a mystical experience.

    • @ems7623
      @ems7623 Před rokem

      You are asserting that Jung's theories perfectly fit and describe psychedelic experience. I don't recall Jung ever making that connection, which (by the way) still remains to be proven.
      Psychology is still young. The behaviorist reaction to psychoanalysis was a strong one, but likely an essential "course correction" If psychological science eventually progresses to establish that Jung's theories were, in fact, accurate, that would be a massive development. It probably won't be that he was 100% correct. (That's always unlikely if you look at the history of science or intellectual history.) But partially with some corrections and clarifications? Why not. Now, go prove it and you'll change the lives of countless people. That's the hard part.

  • @yifatcarmi3380
    @yifatcarmi3380 Před 4 lety +1

    Does spiritualism have to be bound with mysticism? I consider myself spiritualist but I have no microgram of mysticism...

  • @timrooney6333
    @timrooney6333 Před 4 lety

    Having a spiritual experience, (here described if not defined as being "egotistical" rather than material.. This concept was demonstrated if fact to be material. For example, I drove your car right through the intersection while admiring the red color of the traffic signa. We discovered there was a material reality that indeed existed outside of our realm of perception. It was that physical , material reality of which neither the police authorities nor your insurance company, ever held any doubt. I on the other hand would never try to drive MY car when tripping.

    • @ems7623
      @ems7623 Před rokem

      You are mixing up the definitions of perceptual, spiritual and egotistical.

    • @timrooney6333
      @timrooney6333 Před rokem

      @@ems7623 I know...that was a super nice ride you had that got T-boned...on your side...by that poor tempered Chicago bull who was acting like he was needed somewhere else....sorry.. I mean how many times can I keep being sorry? Those blue lights got me confused when I was looking at the red one...really...

  • @lutaayam
    @lutaayam Před 4 lety +2

    People who have had near death experiences describe something similar

  • @shivamaharjan9436
    @shivamaharjan9436 Před 4 lety

    From childhood I have ability to catch the story tellers visual fellings of the kara - tar and even I can visuals the landscape and other things as told by story tellers..
    I have share such felling with my friends and everybody aggress but just like me other friends do same felling only they need to know they can... Is it problems or natural...

    • @ems7623
      @ems7623 Před rokem

      A rule in mental healthcare is that someone only has a "problem" if their behaviors and perceptions are causing significant problems in their life. It sounds like your unusual perceptions do not cause you any such problems.
      What you describe is probably a form of hallucination which, medically-speaking, is part of a psychosis you experience. Many people inaccurately believe that all psychotic experiences are dangerous, but that isn't true. Some people (perhaps you) are not caused any distress by them.
      Do not worry unless your experiences change into something that causes you significant problems living your life. In the meantime, enjoy them.

  • @thomasshirrefs5331
    @thomasshirrefs5331 Před 4 lety +2

    "Everything jeweled with light"

    • @bigsoftgrizzly2149
      @bigsoftgrizzly2149 Před 3 lety

      I understood that on a personal level. My latest 540ug lsd trip, everywhere I looked, especially my copper bird cage was just, like he put it, jeweled with light. It was mesmerizing. All different colors everywhere

  • @SimonSozzi7258
    @SimonSozzi7258 Před 4 lety +1

    17:20 yeah but in person as to apposed to in a screen is different. 😂 anyway

  • @ebtsoby
    @ebtsoby Před 5 lety +11

    I've noticed so many complaints in these RI talks comments sections, I liked this talk, it's not perfect, but these topics are still "taboo" so they can be hard to convey and discuss

    • @artschannel1359
      @artschannel1359 Před 5 lety +4

      well said mate, thanks for that, really. People complain to much when these others are actually trying to do their best.

    • @TheRoyalInstitution
      @TheRoyalInstitution  Před 5 lety +9

      Thank you. We're always looking for new voices and new topics to add to our events programme. Not everyone can like everything we put out, and that's OK.

    • @a.bagasm.7253
      @a.bagasm.7253 Před 3 lety

      @TV you too.besides if you have 100 workers,10 of them do half the work anyways.

  • @patswayze7359
    @patswayze7359 Před 4 lety +12

    The guy who explains psychedelics to yuppies

  • @FreeD00M
    @FreeD00M Před 5 lety +1

    33:52 Insight in 3...2...1...

  • @cpchehaibar
    @cpchehaibar Před 5 lety +2

    Bach's must be the most powerful, soul touching music ever created. And if you want your heart to melt, just look for his Erbarme dich, mein Gott aria, from St. Matthew Passion.

    • @philosopherhobbs
      @philosopherhobbs Před 5 lety +1

      I'll give your recommendation a listen, but the one he referenced during his trip was boring and far too jittery to be emotionally sad. It just seems rambling.

  • @pienmash9376
    @pienmash9376 Před 4 lety +1

    THEIR IS NOTHING BETTER THAN A GOOD TRIP TO CLEAN YOUR SOUL OUT

  • @jasonspunelli3907
    @jasonspunelli3907 Před 5 lety +9

    Where can I meet these underground guides

    • @deadreckoning6288
      @deadreckoning6288 Před 5 lety

      Yes please. How about something to help us in the here & now.

    • @Schwing27
      @Schwing27 Před 5 lety +1

      A little bit of research online and you’ll eventually find the white rabbit to follow. ;)

    • @ironmaidenforlife29
      @ironmaidenforlife29 Před 4 lety +1

      Search for meetup groups. There’s one that I found in Toronto.

    • @bryanl.morrison552
      @bryanl.morrison552 Před 4 lety

      I don't know one, but I will after her residency.

    • @kozykidd9896
      @kozykidd9896 Před 4 lety

      Mojo Jojo Toronto? Where exactly?

  • @tstoneami
    @tstoneami Před 4 lety

    Had to stop this and listen to that Bach piece.

  • @RichardCookerly
    @RichardCookerly Před 4 lety

    Can someone spell out that classical song he mentioned? I want to hear it...

    • @logicNreason2008
      @logicNreason2008 Před 4 lety

      I could be wrong, but i think it was Cello Suite No. 2 in D Minor

  • @humbertocastro1513
    @humbertocastro1513 Před 4 lety

    mind manifested

  • @felipesachs
    @felipesachs Před 4 lety

    Nobody needs to go to deep Amazon forest to have acess to ayuasca. It is a lot cheaper go to Brasília, brazil´s capital, where you can find a lot of religious center that drink ayuasca (Daime tea). You can go to Chapada dos Veadeiros also, one of the most beatiful waterfall in the world are there.

  • @dvessel
    @dvessel Před 3 lety

    45:21 This question is the big scary question. I doubt most governments will be on board with this even though it has great potential in fighting mental health.

  • @skoundrool
    @skoundrool Před 5 lety +7

    Props to Michael for speaking from his perspective and sharing. He is just personally speaking, to non-spiritual scientists as a way to shift and share perspective. Give yourself a chance to lower YOUR ego and be less judge-mental, jeez your acting like this dude is the freaking devil. Hes just sharing information so if you knew it already then move on. There are older people who could use someone like him, maybe more relatable to understand.

  • @tensevo
    @tensevo Před 4 lety

    It is possible to see your life as being both dead and alive simultaneously since time extends back (before you were born) and forward infinitely (beyond your death) you can see it is all the same.

    • @tensevo
      @tensevo Před 4 lety +1

      Just to expand on this as I think it is really key to the clinical therapeutic use, how it dissolves the ego, which is that it is possible to see and reconcile the fact that ......1. You were not yet born, just infinite potential. 2. You are alive in this moment, the present. 3. You are dead, long dead. All happening simultaneously.

  • @cantina2425
    @cantina2425 Před 4 lety +13

    the word “psychedelic” is greek for “soul revealing”

    • @djphineart
      @djphineart Před 4 lety +4

      Strange claim - It was actually a new word coined in 1956 by British psychiatrist Humpry Osmond in correspondence with Aldous Huxley - He noted that it means 'mind manifesting' -
      "To fathom Hell or soar angelic, Just take a pinch of psychedelic" It is actually a incorrect spelling and blend of older greek terms...

    • @djphineart
      @djphineart Před 4 lety

      not even close

    • @tensevo
      @tensevo Před 4 lety

      I doubt it. Though most english words have greek or latin origin. So partial credit.

    • @djphineart
      @djphineart Před 4 lety

      Mark Freeman it’s well documented in the literature

  • @Fren33
    @Fren33 Před 3 lety +1

    Treatment resistant depression here. Where do you even go to find an underground guide?

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      @Skycreator22 Před 2 lety

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  • @shaxeren
    @shaxeren Před 4 lety +4

    Hey everybody!🌈
    You can buy Magic Truffles legally in Amsterdam or online 🐵📡👽

  • @djangoapple8230
    @djangoapple8230 Před 4 lety

    Tripping is not for idiots. Knowing the fact the universe works like a gear box is vital. Having depth, basic understanding and wisdom is the key.
    Example: Edison or Tesla.
    DC Comics or Shakespeare.
    Who had your best interest in mind?

  • @JohnJohn-rh6ib
    @JohnJohn-rh6ib Před 3 lety

    'don't think' then Micheal 'Start Feeling for the change'
    'let it blossom let it flow' - Eric Clapton
    the collective consciousness will revealed
    ✌🏽❤🙏🏽😌

  • @daithiocinnsealach3173

    Who's the young man who keeps talking?

  • @rdizzy1
    @rdizzy1 Před 5 lety

    Would be far more interesting to do human tests with salvinorin rather than LSD.

  • @stuartsteinenheist8077
    @stuartsteinenheist8077 Před 4 lety +2

    All drugs give, and all drugs take. How will you feel when the psychedelic experience normalizes and you find out that life isnt about laying in your sweatpants and feel super-comfortable. Namaste

    • @arkay5697
      @arkay5697 Před 4 lety +3

      After a mushroom trip, you feel absolutely amazing the next day and really great for months after, its not like other drugs that take you away from reality, it connects you to it.

    • @ramseysaiymeh3377
      @ramseysaiymeh3377 Před 4 lety +3

      If you think a psychedelic experience is "super comfortable" you've never had a breakthrough experience

  • @TrapperAaron
    @TrapperAaron Před 2 lety

    Im an immersion journalist. I wrote about the cattle industry, so I bought a single cow. WTF does raising a single cow have to do w industrial beef production?

  • @kenhill5646
    @kenhill5646 Před 4 lety +3

    Take a trip without acid listen to the early Moody Blues Albums.

    • @TerryNails
      @TerryNails Před 4 lety +1

      Take psychedelics and listen to them and you'll never be the same!! Lol!

    • @kenhill5646
      @kenhill5646 Před 4 lety +1

      @@TerryNails I have in the 70s changed my way of thinking forever

  • @FortWhenTea
    @FortWhenTea Před 5 lety +4

    i have done amazing physical triumphs during trips... i am not physically able to do while sober... also ive been to another planet... it was purple, and two men on a mountain, showed me a slide, full of purple cells... anyone make sense of this?

    • @ems7623
      @ems7623 Před rokem

      The only person that can or should make sense of your trips is you.

  • @tonytg9099
    @tonytg9099 Před 5 lety +14

    Another great speaker on this subject is Terence Mckenna....imo nobody really comes close..
    Edited.

    • @QuaterGrind
      @QuaterGrind Před 5 lety +9

      Each speaker gives a unique perspective and provides countless ways of looking at one subject

    • @trevor_corey8037
      @trevor_corey8037 Před 4 lety +2

      yes i politely disagree. Terrence had alot of the psychology talk, experience discussion, but Pollan bridges modern standards of clinical research and trials to close the stigma and allow the FDA to bring these medicines to the public. There is no claims without evidence with him. I respect that. Its not always about talking about experiences. In order to get controversial medicines pushed through, we need scientists and work done by people like Pollan. Gotta appreciate that

    • @bazrin
      @bazrin Před 4 lety +1

      Your comment in itself is one dimensional.

    • @tensevo
      @tensevo Před 4 lety +3

      Your comment is highly egotistical, signalling lack of psycehdelic experience. You are now a coat of paint. Sleep.

    • @quadq6598
      @quadq6598 Před 4 lety +1

      Yeah but him being dead for years is somewhat problematical

  • @Brascofarian
    @Brascofarian Před 5 lety +3

    as someone coming from a 'too late' perspective, do I want to watch this?

    • @bashkillszombies
      @bashkillszombies Před 5 lety +2

      Nope. Just woowoo pseudoscience.

    • @arete7884
      @arete7884 Před 5 lety +2

      bashpr0mpt established theories were pseudoscience before , dumb people every generation that dont understand how progress works

    • @xxmatrix0xx-oldemail697
      @xxmatrix0xx-oldemail697 Před 4 lety +2

      bashpr0mpt if you tried it yourself then your outlook on it will have completely changed.

  • @timtaomathisen
    @timtaomathisen Před 4 lety

    The people that tel you about goods sry for saying dont or met them love humans and to a point

  • @shadowhands3321
    @shadowhands3321 Před 5 lety +6

    the popping out and in of the mask is by will on thc..^^ .....i knew i heard the guy on sams podcast.....its a taboo that deserves a scientific and mainstream in depth discussion................but....... arent thoose old akademic guys and grade a students like sam who took 2 or 3 trips in school just too sweet?^^
    " uh uh..i got something interesting here!"
    yeah dude... so have the underground community and virtually all other cultures besides your own and a few others ( who just thought they knew better and forgot^^) for nearly the last several thousand years..but hey....^^ just details^^ you even mention yourself^^..sry but i feel like my father is trying to sell me this totally new invention that is absolut fantastic and neat and fits in your pocket and if you push that button right there there comes a little flame out of it!!!! can you believe it??? ;) lol,,yeah dad its a miracle.;) ....................also isnt it just a wonder how enough money and the right connections can let you have this experience totally legal where as the normal guy can land in prison for a better part of his life for attempting the same and thinking he has the right to choose over his own body ?

  • @aidanlevy2841
    @aidanlevy2841 Před 5 lety +1

    I think that the opposite of the spiritual you are describing seems more egocentric than egotistical.

  • @aubreyravenl
    @aubreyravenl Před 4 lety

    who is the younger guy?

  • @davomccranko
    @davomccranko Před 4 lety +1

    Those chairs ate terrible for the posture / consciousness.

  • @andyheyes6329
    @andyheyes6329 Před 4 lety

    Perspective. Change addiction disease

  • @paulnielsen3256
    @paulnielsen3256 Před 4 lety +3

    "Revolution is useful when the oppressed become tyrants." - Jenny Holzer

  • @THEEJONESY
    @THEEJONESY Před 4 měsíci

    LOVE AND CHEMISTRY 🧪

  • @dragons10000
    @dragons10000 Před 4 lety +3

    If you watch thias video for the potential benefits of psychedelics, thats for you then. But if you want to learn how and why psychedelics do it;s magic, you wont find much info in the video. It lacks frontier science.

  • @talkingmudcrab718
    @talkingmudcrab718 Před 4 lety +2

    You can't be afraid of the reflection in the mirror.

  • @benjih5820
    @benjih5820 Před 5 lety +2

    Has anyone noticed that the chemical structure for "Psilocybin" looks awfully like the ♀️+♂️ signs combined? Hmm curious.. 🤔

  • @holdmybeer
    @holdmybeer Před 5 lety +4

    I quit drinking for two and a half years until my supply pf psychedelics ran out.

  • @dreamoftheendless7159
    @dreamoftheendless7159 Před 4 lety +1

    Lol if i was part of those experiments i would recommend to listen to pink floyd
    Im a scientist mindwise
    But a poet at heart

    • @bethmarrapodi4206
      @bethmarrapodi4206 Před 4 lety +1

      Which album? I’d have to journey with “Wish you were Here”!

    • @dreamoftheendless7159
      @dreamoftheendless7159 Před 4 lety

      @@bethmarrapodi4206 piper at the gates of dawn or dark side of the moon

    • @joshroberts1450
      @joshroberts1450 Před 4 lety +1

      a wizard that is strange definitely dark side of the moon

  • @timtaomathisen
    @timtaomathisen Před 4 lety

    Been there Doone That Can you SHARE IT PSS MISTER OFFISER

  • @WaterShowsProd
    @WaterShowsProd Před 5 lety +2

    44 minutes in and still haven't heard anything about the science of psychedelics. Time to let this clip melt away.