Good honest review there Dan. I have 2 CW watches and they are fantastic. Good quality for the money and surprised by the lack of QC on this particular piece, perhaps a return for repair they’ve sent you? Anyway my other two are spot on and vfm for me. However, not a lover of this model. I agree with the lume on the bezel and red marking on crown, bizarre! Regarding the 22 lug width. I have a CW 50’s inspired C65 Trident diver handwound but the 41 case also has 22 lug width. Not very vintage I know but trust me, it really works. They do often mix vintage with modern queues like the sizing. Saying that I’m getting their C65 Sandhurst. A nod to the Smiths w10 but is 38m and 20 lug. Almost exactly vintage! And yes their bracelets are the dogs. Trust me.
No you wouldn't buy this you'd buy a new Christopher ward trident, they are lovely watches. It's not CWs fault that the watch that's been passed form pillar to post is damaged
Is it just me, or does it look like Dan is about to sneeze in the thumbnail? 😆 This one is definitely a bit of a mixed bag. I had a similar experience with a Yema I reviewed recently, around the same kind of price.
Not sure I've seen these issues before with CW so hopefully not common. Their warranty is good and you could send it back within 60days if not happy, I'd do that if I'd have bought it with those issues. Agree with styling generally. I think the logo is ok (didn't mind name either), but now you've said it I can see Minecraft lol. I like the case and the white sealander is on my radar! Thanks for the review
Fair point : Supposed to have vintage cues but the 22mm strap gives it a disproportionate heft. An elegant 41mm case shouldn't feel this big and a 20mm strap might alleviate this. Thanks. Yup, a lot of great competition out there.
Love your honesty Dan. I would be so disappointed if I'd paid £900 for a watch with those issues. And I agree that the case size is too big for a retro look. Keep up the great work.
Great review! I agree with everything other than the lug width - Every watch with 40mm+ case should have at least 22mm lug width - Makes for a smooth transition from case to bracelet, aesthetics.
Vintage or not, the curvature of the case/lugs should flow into the bracelet. No transition from case/lugs to bracelet is not a good look. An integrated bracelet is something different altogether, where the end link is as wide as the outer lugs.
My point was that an integrated bracelet gives you the seamless transition from case to bracelet. A 20mm lug width would look better on this watch as it's more in proportion with the overall dimensions. General rule of thumb for most watches is that lug width should be roughly half the case diameter.
I'm a massive fan of CW Watches! I think you got a one off dud... Don't judge the brand on this one watch. CW should be far more careful what they send to reviewers.
At last, an honest review of this brand and their fault-ridden bland watches. Now on their 4th logo in 19 years, they really seem to be just slinging as many variations at the market as possible, which dilutes any individuality in any design. Thank you for being critical and honest about this (refreshing!), and not just sucked in by the Christopher Ward hype machine.
Excellent review Dan. As an Irishman I don't like that particular colour either! Lol! But the watch itself looks fine. I like the logo personally, in previous watches CW have always gone too far with wording all over the dial. Red should not be showing once the crown is screwed in. The flaws are worrying though, if I wanted that misalignment I'd buy a Seiko diver online! I say that as I have quite a few perfectly aligned Seiko's as I don't buy them online and I check them personally in the Seiko boutique before handing over the cash! And even a misaligned Seiko has great lume. Bad lume on a £1,000 watch is inexcusable.
I have bought eight CW watches, and still own four. In my opinion their watches equal luxury brand watches that cost several times more. Disagree, 22mm is the correct lug width for a 41mm watch. However, I agree, don't like the green, and the lume isn't great
I bought a CW “Anthropocene” last year. Great looking dive watch with 600m water resistance and GMT. (Great bracelet btw!) First thing I noticed was a misaligned bezel and in the first couple of months the sellita movement packed up where in the gmt hand stopped functioning! Had to send it back twice before the issue was sorted, Quite disappointing tbh as this was the most id ever spent on a watch at that point. I love the look of Some CW watches especially the bronze blue Aquitaine but would I buy another…??? I don’t think so, such a shame. That said I have kept my CW. Good honest review btw👍
My favorite Christopher Ward to date, shame you had these issues and sure it must be a one off, I'm looking at the blue and bronze. May consider a different model now.
"When i'm good, i'm very good, but when i'm bad, i'm better". Could be the quote of my life, wanna join mate??? 😋😉😎 Oi ! , almost forgot what reviews ment... till this! Cheers Dan, be well mate.
Finally, someone thinking as I am. Don't understand the hype being this specific model. The size, for a vintage inspired watch is too big in my opinion, totally agree with the 22mm, seems this watch has been designed for men with size issues!!! Not a fan of the bezel insert either, would have preferred a mat ceramic or something but not this over bubbly saphir bezel. Sow some lume pics too, and for the price, what??😑😔
@@johnmuthan286 my dad had bigger wrists than me (he was a man likewise) and rarely wore watches, as they were too small and, in his words, were jewellery for women. So, seeing as it was you that made the comment in the first place (seems you're the one with size issues (you obviously have a complex about having small girly wrists)), I'll pass my winners prize over to you. Clearly you can give, but not take 💪
Thank you for the honesty! This watch looks good but nothing special, and CW should offer more if they want to get ahead in this very competitive price segment.
Definitely misaligned, not just your eyes mate. Has some FF vibes for me, very vintage style diver. Looks the part however I think the GMT you picked is a much better looking piece.
You must’ve got a dud…. I’ve just received the same watch last week and I’m impressed with both the quality and finishing. It’s on par with my Longines and Tag Heuer’s, etc, etc….. Movement wise it lags behind my Longines but on every other level it’s more than a match. On my Tag Heuer Aquaracer Professional 300 the bracelet is phenomenal, but other than that not much between them.
@@watchmewithwatches Nothing wrong with that whatsoever.🙂 I think many of us have been there with watches that have bad QC issues, don’t get me started on Seiko.😁
I know! I had to return a gorgeous alpinist because it had dust under the crystal and an imperfection on the dial. Then there was the cement srpe that had a dodgy movement.....
If you have a dud then don’t make a whole video about the watch. Like just return it and get an *UNUSED* one and then do a proper review. I consider your review an outlier
Nice review, thanks. I agree with most of your points about it. I am a fan of the brand but this one doesn’t do it for me either. I heard in an interview that they may be releasing a 39mm version, so fingers crossed. As for the logo, I have a Trident cosc model from back in 2013 and the original logo of ‘ChWard London’ is much nicer, I think. Silly, but as I live away from England, it was one of the things that drew me to the watch in the first place. Cheers!
I think I'd rather have the 40mm Octopus (with SW200) and the best part of £600 still in the bank Dan. Too many faults for this price point and I hate the colour or at least how in looks on screen. I do like the general design but, back to the Octopus, very similar (from memory)
Dan, putting aside the QC issues and although some details are nice, the overall package isn’t much of a head turner and for the price there are many watches out there that I would choose first.
I agree with you completely. This is a complete miss in the looks department for me. I was completely underwhelmed when I first saw it a few weeks ago. The QC matters certainly haven't helped me warm to the watch since then.
@@timeintheuk the colour is part of it and although I’m sure that it is constructed of quality materials, a head on view looks like it’s made of green plastic. My Phoibos Wave Master is only a fraction of the cost of the Aquitaine but looks way better and oozes quality.
Disappointed with this one but I own a diver 38 mm bought a few years ago, orange bezel back dial fantastic watch don’t like the logo but it was a ex demonstration piece came boxed perfectly no wear or tear can’t fault this watch at all but brilliant review all the same would prefer a 39 for a vintage style 👍
Another truthful review Dan… I personally never cared much for Christopher Ward watches. Too expensive and they seem to be a “fashion” watch rather than a great daily watch. Regardless, you nailed all the bad stuff. The crown, the bezel alignment, and lume. All parts of a watch that should always be perfect. As you said, cheaper watches get it right…why can’t a $1,000 watch do so? Keep up the good work Dan. Very entertaining and knowledgeable information on your channel. All the Best, Clark
CW made a major faux pas with the 22mm lug width, it's not in proportion with the case size and just doesn't look right. As a general rule of thumb, the lug width should be roughly half the case diameter.
I'm not a fan on the plastic looking bezel or rounds indices and in this colour it all comes together to look like a v cheap watch - which I know it isn't. I love most of the other CW divers but perhaps it's just my personal tastes on this one.
I've got a C65 Trident GMT Pepsi bezel from a few years ago. It's on a bracelet, and I can confirm that it's a pretty nice bracelet, especially with the on-the-fly adjustment. Only part of it that's disappointing is that it's pin and collar, but really, once you get it sized, who cares!
I have been so hyped for this watch. It was going to be my first and only luxury watch, and other reviews have been stellar. But this issue with the crown not popping out, the Dry Marshall not being visitble, the bezel not aligning and the bezel lume not being equal are all pretty dissapointing. I am pretty concerned about all this if it is to be my only purchase. It is a shame because it really has everything I want, I actually like 22mm lug width lol.
Yes, really want to support British brands and a few CW models really interest me but....not so much this one, the Certina would take it for me, good review, subbed 👍
QC problem with the crown most likely came from the factory like that... I've had 3 different watches from them all sent back for either big bits of dust under crystal or crunchy knackered crowns
This example sure doesn't inspire alot of confidence Although they have outstanding customer service and yes that gmt is a complete winner I've been giving it serious consideration as well Fantastic review nevertheless Always entertaining and appreciated Love your content my friend Keep the videos coming Definitely my favorite channel Honesty is key as always Thanks again 👍
Dude, the bezel alignment issue isn't Christopher Ward's, it's yours. There's enough play in that bezel-as there always is in bezels, to back it up a fraction of a mm and have it align perfectly. It seems quite disingenuous to me to over spin it such that it lines up off-centre and then not even attempt to back it up to its proper position. What's up with that? Sabotage?
I have two CW and they both have problems with the crown/winding and what is more sad is that they still have the same problem after service them with CW Not good at all.
I looked at these when they came out really liked it till I saw the price point I have been looking at Certina’s for less which look really good or a sinn 104.Christoper ward need to be careful they need there QC to be spot on and not end up like Hamilton very hit or miss
I agree, they have a great reputation, and I would say I can only base mine on whatever seen. I have heard great things from fellow watch friends that love theirs and have had zero issues.
Personally I Iike the lettered Christopher Ward branding just under the 12 o clock position over that hideous ambiguous logo, I may be in a minority but so be it. I also preferred the more realistic pricing of the previous gen watches. I have a C65-Darmouth, which I'll keep, not keen on the 'updated' version...... or the price and 'improvements'.
A lot of money for a watch, when the Chinese do them a lot better and cheaper. Not too sure if it matters these days, if it was made in Switzerland or not. Certainly wouldn't pay an extra £900 for it to say Swiss made in the dial, when Japan Movt does a better job.
It's 1k in my mind, it's too generic....I'd be looking elsewhere with that money....fair review, you've go too call it as you see it my friend....🏴⌚🏴⌚
How disappointing, I've been looking at CW releases for a couple of years and there always seem to be one or more issues that put me off. I appreciate the honest review.
I don't know what to think about CW. They look good at first glance but then you notice the foibles starting to stand out. A misplaced design cue, a colour mismatch, disappointing lume. They could be so much _more_ if they built a demo model, stood back, and asked some independent people for feedback on how to go from OK to great in the production models.
Not going to lie I'm struggling to see anything remotely interesting in the design of this watch. CW make some really nice watches but this isn't one of them. Great review though and I'm glad you've alerted any interested parties to its considerable shortcomings, especially given the price!
I'm fed up with Chris Ward. Every watch seems the same one in different clothing! Basically the same ice cream with hundreds of different flavours. And why always the SW200-1 movement? This movement is a workhorse, you don't see it in high end brands. Even the COSC watches they produce are inaccurate in time keeping. Compared to a true quality brand like Longines, Ward is just another micro-brand.
And why do you compare it to high end brands since chr ward is a brand that operates around 1k and slightly above with some exceptions. Oris and meistersinger use the same movement in watches that are 2.5 k. If you want accuracy, get a quartz ;)
@@sebastiannowakowski5084 I know that Oris and Tag Heuer also use the same movement, as does Shinola. Never heard of Meistersinger. When I get a mechanical watch I still expect decent accuracy - quartz is another thing altogether, so comparing the two is like comparing apples and oranges.
CW can’t get their act together consistently… And - am gonna say it - the new logo is fugly. Over a decade that they’ve been tinkering with the logo now and they just keep stumbling. I own a C8 pilot from 2008 and it’s great… they were the good old days. As a brand they’re just too hit n miss now, with an almost exclusive focus on divers. Not fussed. V fair review big man 👍🏻
A dive watch with a leather strap, dubious red crown indicators and a bezel with no minute indicators? Not to mention QC issues, but if I had a grand, I wouldn’t throw it away on this..
Definitely not perfect watches, I noticed what I think is a fault on my limited edition atoll... The bezel seems to have a bit of play in it, definitely not as solid as my previous Tag Heuer. I think the take home their watches is that they have something for everyone at good price BUT not without little faults/quirks.
I pretended I had spent my hard earned on this watch. When you have that figure around £1000 on your mind, nit picky is only fair in my opinion. Its all relative.
Good honest review there Dan.
I have 2 CW watches and they are fantastic. Good quality for the money and surprised by the lack of QC on this particular piece, perhaps a return for repair they’ve sent you?
Anyway my other two are spot on and vfm for me.
However, not a lover of this model. I agree with the lume on the bezel and red marking on crown, bizarre!
Regarding the 22 lug width.
I have a CW 50’s inspired C65 Trident diver handwound but the 41 case also has 22 lug width. Not very vintage I know but trust me, it really works.
They do often mix vintage with modern queues like the sizing.
Saying that I’m getting their C65 Sandhurst. A nod to the Smiths w10 but is 38m and 20 lug. Almost exactly vintage!
And yes their bracelets are the dogs. Trust me.
I have this exact watch and I wear it with my green oakland A's baseball cap to work every day!!
"...maybe it's a dress diver" hahahaha this is English humour at its best
Solid review and valid critics. CW knows what to solve in the next version
No you wouldn't buy this you'd buy a new Christopher ward trident, they are lovely watches.
It's not CWs fault that the watch that's been passed form pillar to post is damaged
Is it just me, or does it look like Dan is about to sneeze in the thumbnail? 😆
This one is definitely a bit of a mixed bag. I had a similar experience with a Yema I reviewed recently, around the same kind of price.
Lol, maybe the green was triggering my hay-fever!
@@watchmewithwatchesThat's some pretty serious hayfever you've got there then 😉
Not sure I've seen these issues before with CW so hopefully not common. Their warranty is good and you could send it back within 60days if not happy, I'd do that if I'd have bought it with those issues. Agree with styling generally. I think the logo is ok (didn't mind name either), but now you've said it I can see Minecraft lol. I like the case and the white sealander is on my radar! Thanks for the review
I have my expert wife help with that opinion about the logo lol!
@@watchmewithwatches they're good at that sort of thing
Fair point : Supposed to have vintage cues but the 22mm strap gives it a disproportionate heft. An elegant 41mm case shouldn't feel this big and a 20mm strap might alleviate this.
Thanks. Yup, a lot of great competition out there.
Gee, you repeated his remarks. Well done.
@@denisdaly1708 Sarcasm? Wow you've used the opportunity to be sarcastic.
Yup, my previous thoughts, on my own CW, concur with his.
Love your honesty Dan. I would be so disappointed if I'd paid £900 for a watch with those issues. And I agree that the case size is too big for a retro look. Keep up the great work.
Even with excellent customer service etc, i wouldn't want to have to experience it in the first place!
Great review! Exactly what a review should be, honest and critical. Nothing worse than fluff by sponsored videos. Keep it up 👍
Great review! I agree with everything other than the lug width - Every watch with 40mm+ case should have at least 22mm lug width - Makes for a smooth transition from case to bracelet, aesthetics.
Thats a very good point actually, as long as there is a strong taper on the strap or bracelet too.
That aesthetic works where you have an integrated bracelet like the Tissot PRX but not on a vintage diver like this.
Vintage or not, the curvature of the case/lugs should flow into the bracelet. No transition from case/lugs to bracelet is not a good look. An integrated bracelet is something different altogether, where the end link is as wide as the outer lugs.
My point was that an integrated bracelet gives you the seamless transition from case to bracelet. A 20mm lug width would look better on this watch as it's more in proportion with the overall dimensions. General rule of thumb for most watches is that lug width should be roughly half the case diameter.
Thankfully, CW have an appreciation for aesthetic proportions and don't follow arbitrary 'rules of thumb'
Agree with everything you’ve said. Over £1k when you add VAT….I’d expect way better QC.
Christopher Ward is a good watch maker. Nice Video Dan!
I'm a massive fan of CW Watches! I think you got a one off dud... Don't judge the brand on this one watch. CW should be far more careful what they send to reviewers.
Bit picky here, the logo is far better than having the tacky name on there.
I agree!
Yes it is but a bit better than a previous shit logo isn't great
At last, an honest review of this brand and their fault-ridden bland watches. Now on their 4th logo in 19 years, they really seem to be just slinging as many variations at the market as possible, which dilutes any individuality in any design. Thank you for being critical and honest about this (refreshing!), and not just sucked in by the Christopher Ward hype machine.
Excellent review Dan. As an Irishman I don't like that particular colour either! Lol! But the watch itself looks fine. I like the logo personally, in previous watches CW have always gone too far with wording all over the dial. Red should not be showing once the crown is screwed in. The flaws are worrying though, if I wanted that misalignment I'd buy a Seiko diver online! I say that as I have quite a few perfectly aligned Seiko's as I don't buy them online and I check them personally in the Seiko boutique before handing over the cash! And even a misaligned Seiko has great lume. Bad lume on a £1,000 watch is inexcusable.
I have bought eight CW watches, and still own four. In my opinion their watches equal luxury brand watches that cost several times more. Disagree, 22mm is the correct lug width for a 41mm watch. However, I agree, don't like the green, and the lume isn't great
I like the green colour
I bought a CW “Anthropocene” last year.
Great looking dive watch with 600m water resistance and GMT. (Great bracelet btw!)
First thing I noticed was a misaligned bezel and in the first couple of months the sellita movement packed up where in the gmt hand stopped functioning! Had to send it back twice before the issue was sorted, Quite disappointing tbh as this was the most id ever spent on a watch at that point.
I love the look of Some CW watches especially the bronze blue Aquitaine but would I buy another…??? I don’t think so, such a shame.
That said I have kept my CW.
Good honest review btw👍
Thank you!
My favorite Christopher Ward to date, shame you had these issues and sure it must be a one off, I'm looking at the blue and bronze. May consider a different model now.
I think if I saw the GMT and it had no issues, it would be on my wish list!
I have determined that I prefer ceramic bezels vs. sapphire. My Helm's bezel lume is not crisp and fades well before the indices.
I agree, I havent yet liked a sapphire insert
I love Christopher Ward but this reminds me of a SKX mod watch. On a positive note they're usually fantastic quality.
"When i'm good, i'm very good, but when i'm bad, i'm better". Could be the quote of my life, wanna join mate??? 😋😉😎
Oi ! , almost forgot what reviews ment... till this! Cheers Dan, be well mate.
Finally, someone thinking as I am.
Don't understand the hype being this specific model.
The size, for a vintage inspired watch is too big in my opinion, totally agree with the 22mm, seems this watch has been designed for men with size issues!!!
Not a fan of the bezel insert either, would have preferred a mat ceramic or something but not this over bubbly saphir bezel.
Sow some lume pics too, and for the price, what??😑😔
Size issues? You mean real men with man sized wrists ... as opposed to wimpy guys with girly wrists that can't wear bigger than 40mm.
@@neli5p 🤣🤣 and you are the winner.
👏🎊🍾
or do you assume that men from the past, you know, your father and grandfather were not "real men".
@@johnmuthan286 my dad had bigger wrists than me (he was a man likewise) and rarely wore watches, as they were too small and, in his words, were jewellery for women. So, seeing as it was you that made the comment in the first place (seems you're the one with size issues (you obviously have a complex about having small girly wrists)), I'll pass my winners prize over to you. Clearly you can give, but not take 💪
I like it very much I got one
Thank you for the honesty! This watch looks good but nothing special, and CW should offer more if they want to get ahead in this very competitive price segment.
i have the cream GMT version with blue bezel
i just hope the size could be 39mm and it will be perfection
Me too. Absolutely love it!
Wow, first view of your channel, love your photography.
Definitely misaligned, not just your eyes mate. Has some FF vibes for me, very vintage style diver. Looks the part however I think the GMT you picked is a much better looking piece.
At last, a truly honest review of this watch
You must’ve got a dud….
I’ve just received the same watch last week and I’m impressed with both the quality and finishing. It’s on par with my Longines and Tag Heuer’s, etc, etc….. Movement wise it lags behind my Longines but on every other level it’s more than a match. On my Tag Heuer Aquaracer Professional 300 the bracelet is phenomenal, but other than that not much between them.
I must have! I would rather be honest about the watch in hand. I have heard nothing but praise over all.
@@watchmewithwatches Nothing wrong with that whatsoever.🙂
I think many of us have been there with watches that have bad QC issues, don’t get me started on Seiko.😁
I know! I had to return a gorgeous alpinist because it had dust under the crystal and an imperfection on the dial. Then there was the cement srpe that had a dodgy movement.....
@@watchmewithwatches The perils of being a watch nerd.😎
If you have a dud then don’t make a whole video about the watch. Like just return it and get an *UNUSED* one and then do a proper review. I consider your review an outlier
Thank God you hate the logo lugs etc. Totally agree with you about the watch
Brilliant review Dan.well done mate.
Nice review, thanks.
I agree with most of your points about it. I am a fan of the brand but this one doesn’t do it for me either.
I heard in an interview that they may be releasing a 39mm version, so fingers crossed. As for the logo, I have a Trident cosc model from back in 2013 and the original logo of ‘ChWard London’ is much nicer, I think. Silly, but as I live away from England, it was one of the things that drew me to the watch in the first place.
Cheers!
Nigles aside its a beautiful watch and design, great honest review. Time to check the Wise Adamascus Dan
I think I'd rather have the 40mm Octopus (with SW200) and the best part of £600 still in the bank Dan. Too many faults for this price point and I hate the colour or at least how in looks on screen. I do like the general design but, back to the Octopus, very similar (from memory)
Dan, putting aside the QC issues and although some details are nice, the overall package isn’t much of a head turner and for the price there are many watches out there that I would choose first.
I agree with you completely. This is a complete miss in the looks department for me. I was completely underwhelmed when I first saw it a few weeks ago. The QC matters certainly haven't helped me warm to the watch since then.
That's probably down in part to the colour
@@timeintheuk the colour is part of it and although I’m sure that it is constructed of quality materials, a head on view looks like it’s made of green plastic. My Phoibos Wave Master is only a fraction of the cost of the Aquitaine but looks way better and oozes quality.
Nice with honesty... many QC problems there, ihave Trident pro 600 and that one is fantastic, i like CWs . Cheers
Thanks 👍
I like the looks, but the proportions are slightly off... But the quality issues are inexcusable.
I agree mate
Thank You for all of your videos that you did.
loved to hear your "hot roasting"!
Disappointed with this one but I own a diver 38 mm bought a few years ago, orange bezel back dial fantastic watch don’t like the logo but it was a ex demonstration piece came boxed perfectly no wear or tear can’t fault this watch at all but brilliant review all the same would prefer a 39 for a vintage style 👍
Another truthful review Dan… I personally never cared much for Christopher Ward watches. Too expensive and they seem to be a “fashion” watch rather than a great daily watch. Regardless, you nailed all the bad stuff. The crown, the bezel alignment, and lume. All parts of a watch that should always be perfect. As you said, cheaper watches get it right…why can’t a $1,000 watch do so? Keep up the good work Dan. Very entertaining and knowledgeable information on your channel. All the Best, Clark
Happy with my c63 Gmt see what I did there.
Yours is a proper beaut mate
CW made a major faux pas with the 22mm lug width, it's not in proportion with the case size and just doesn't look right. As a general rule of thumb, the lug width should be roughly half the case diameter.
I really agree, excellent point
I thought I read that he no longer is with the company that still bears his name....and this could use one of your brown bands. THANKS DAN
I'm not a fan on the plastic looking bezel or rounds indices and in this colour it all comes together to look like a v cheap watch - which I know it isn't. I love most of the other CW divers but perhaps it's just my personal tastes on this one.
I like the logo, actually. Everything else you pointed out: YIKES 😬😬😬😬
This one is a such a miss, Shame as so many other CW look amazing and have a great reputation. 👍
I've got a C65 Trident GMT Pepsi bezel from a few years ago. It's on a bracelet, and I can confirm that it's a pretty nice bracelet, especially with the on-the-fly adjustment. Only part of it that's disappointing is that it's pin and collar, but really, once you get it sized, who cares!
Thanks for the info!
I think it is now screw link....no more pin and collar
Yes now it’s screw pins
Mate, please review the Clemence Photic. I think it would shame this at under half the price. Would like to hear your views.
The website does say it's a retro watch with contemporary sizing.
Thats true, but I Still think a 20mm lug width would help a little with the proportions.
Bit of a let down this one, I would definitely not be happy paying near on 1k for this. Great work with the review
I have been so hyped for this watch. It was going to be my first and only luxury watch, and other reviews have been stellar. But this issue with the crown not popping out, the Dry Marshall not being visitble, the bezel not aligning and the bezel lume not being equal are all pretty dissapointing. I am pretty concerned about all this if it is to be my only purchase. It is a shame because it really has everything I want, I actually like 22mm lug width lol.
Christopher Ward does give you 60 days to return your watch with free shipping so the risk is minimal
Yes, really want to support British brands and a few CW models really interest me but....not so much this one, the Certina would take it for me, good review, subbed 👍
Welcome aboard! Hope you enjoy more of my content, Regards Dan
@@watchmewithwatchesalready am! 😉
Oh no! was thinking of getting one over Zodiac. Now not so much
QC problem with the crown most likely came from the factory like that... I've had 3 different watches from them all sent back for either big bits of dust under crystal or crunchy knackered crowns
Thats alarming!
Never had an issue. I've got 2
@@timeintheuk Lucky you , i think they have run out of chances with me now. It's a shame though as i do like the blue dial c63
This example sure doesn't inspire alot of confidence Although they have outstanding customer service and yes that gmt is a complete winner I've been giving it serious consideration as well Fantastic review nevertheless Always entertaining and appreciated Love your content my friend Keep the videos coming Definitely my favorite channel Honesty is key as always Thanks again 👍
I think I was unlucky with this one, but as this is my first ever example seen of a christopher ward, its not been the best impression!
@@watchmewithwatches completely agree I sure hope they send you many more examples for your honest and unique review approach Best of luck my friend 👍
Dude, the bezel alignment issue isn't Christopher Ward's, it's yours. There's enough play in that bezel-as there always is in bezels, to back it up a fraction of a mm and have it align perfectly. It seems quite disingenuous to me to over spin it such that it lines up off-centre and then not even attempt to back it up to its proper position. What's up with that? Sabotage?
Lol,no sabotage here. I've fiddled with enough bezels to know!
I have two CW and they both have problems with the crown/winding and what is more sad is that they still have the same problem after service them with CW Not good at all.
Such a shame, wouldn't be happy with that!
we miss your reviews 😢
I looked at these when they came out really liked it till I saw the price point I have been looking at Certina’s for less which look really good or a sinn 104.Christoper ward need to be careful they need there QC to be spot on and not end up like Hamilton very hit or miss
I agree, they have a great reputation, and I would say I can only base mine on whatever seen. I have heard great things from fellow watch friends that love theirs and have had zero issues.
The certina is great, had one for a while. Sold it for a small profit!
Personally I Iike the lettered Christopher Ward branding just under the 12 o clock position over that hideous ambiguous logo, I may be in a minority but so be it. I also preferred the more realistic pricing of the previous gen watches. I have a C65-Darmouth, which I'll keep, not keen on the 'updated' version...... or the price and 'improvements'.
Don't like the green either ... from an Irish man. Green Orient Triton, now there's green watch to love.
Lots of time devoted to the alignment of the bezel at 12 o'clock but nothing on the accuracy of the watch. I guess to each his own anality.
I forgot! It's running plus 6 average tested in 4 different positions.
Like the Polo Shirt, very summery 👍
A lot of money for a watch, when the Chinese do them a lot better and cheaper. Not too sure if it matters these days, if it was made in Switzerland or not. Certainly wouldn't pay an extra £900 for it to say Swiss made in the dial, when Japan Movt does a better job.
Good vid!
Love the honesty. Spending a grand doesn’t guarantee a nicer watch than a $200 watch unless you are selling the high dollar
The stem might not be the correct length hence the issue with winding the movement.
Great review as always dan. We love your honesty about stuff
It's 1k in my mind, it's too generic....I'd be looking elsewhere with that money....fair review, you've go too call it as you see it my friend....🏴⌚🏴⌚
How disappointing, I've been looking at CW releases for a couple of years and there always seem to be one or more issues that put me off. I appreciate the honest review.
C. Ward are chucking out too many new watches.
One for the bin
Yep! Considering you could get a Sinn for little more. Or a squale, or a zodiac etc etc. Or the delightful Certina DS PH 200!
I've finally come to the one and only negative CW review.
I usually ignore the anomalies.
Any chance I can take this piece off your hands for a discount? 😅
I cant excuse misaligned bezels at that price or any price for that matter!!!! I would be sending it straight back,
Me too!
Misalignment is a deal breaker for me.
I don't know what to think about CW. They look good at first glance but then you notice the foibles starting to stand out.
A misplaced design cue, a colour mismatch, disappointing lume.
They could be so much _more_ if they built a demo model, stood back, and asked some independent people for feedback on how to go from OK to great in the production models.
Nice looking watch but the issues it has are not good
Such a shame!
It is just getting harder and harder to pay 1k for a watch with a Salita in it after seeing then for 3 and $400.
I agree, Im starting to get tempted with nice quartz pieces that are way less money to buy, but still feel like a lovely watch to own.
if they wanted to go "vintage", this should have been 39mm, not 41.
Not going to lie I'm struggling to see anything remotely interesting in the design of this watch. CW make some really nice watches but this isn't one of them. Great review though and I'm glad you've alerted any interested parties to its considerable shortcomings, especially given the price!
I love the case and crown especially from the side. So the bezel is sapphire I believe
Wait, did you like it or not?
Lol
I'd prefer a logo that just said CW. It looks "scabby"
i liked the W in the ChrWard one they had
lol doood! they shouolda just sent it to me for review lol jk
Sadly lacking in quality control then.....
Nice watch but I am definitely not buying anything with this ugly logo
Unless you love minecraft
I love my CW GMT
I'm fed up with Chris Ward. Every watch seems the same one in different clothing! Basically the same ice cream with hundreds of different flavours. And why always the SW200-1 movement? This movement is a workhorse, you don't see it in high end brands. Even the COSC watches they produce are inaccurate in time keeping. Compared to a true quality brand like Longines, Ward is just another micro-brand.
I agree. but i want to see more to get a fairer gauge of them in general.
And why do you compare it to high end brands since chr ward is a brand that operates around 1k and slightly above with some exceptions. Oris and meistersinger use the same movement in watches that are 2.5 k. If you want accuracy, get a quartz ;)
@@sebastiannowakowski5084 I know that Oris and Tag Heuer also use the same movement, as does Shinola. Never heard of Meistersinger. When I get a mechanical watch I still expect decent accuracy - quartz is another thing altogether, so comparing the two is like comparing apples and oranges.
CW can’t get their act together consistently… And - am gonna say it - the new logo is fugly. Over a decade that they’ve been tinkering with the logo now and they just keep stumbling. I own a C8 pilot from 2008 and it’s great… they were the good old days. As a brand they’re just too hit n miss now, with an almost exclusive focus on divers. Not fussed. V fair review big man 👍🏻
Another good honest review Dan,
Massively overpriced and those faults are unacceptable 🙁
Thanks Michael. Shame it had those faults, especially for the asking price!
A dive watch with a leather strap, dubious red crown indicators and a bezel with no minute indicators? Not to mention QC issues, but if I had a grand, I wouldn’t throw it away on this..
First negative review ive ever seen on a christopher ward
Trouble is, I can only review what I had in hand, and if it's not quite right then that's fair!
Definitely not perfect watches, I noticed what I think is a fault on my limited edition atoll... The bezel seems to have a bit of play in it, definitely not as solid as my previous Tag Heuer. I think the take home their watches is that they have something for everyone at good price BUT not without little faults/quirks.
Fifty fathoms homage. The color is garbage, but it seemed like you harped on that too much. Meh
Extremely nit picky. Then he's in the "positives" section of the video and still complaining.
I pretended I had spent my hard earned on this watch. When you have that figure around £1000 on your mind, nit picky is only fair in my opinion. Its all relative.
@@watchmewithwatches fair enough. Enjoy your videos
@@stuckinchaselandia6427 thanks so much! 😀
You are right the logo stinks
Tissot and Bulova make divers for half the price with twice the quality.
Hell, even an Invicta would at least be aligned correctly.
Thats true!
Bulova has hardly any detail on the divers they make. Generic and flat
Christopher Ward always seem to me to be chasing a clientele that is running away from them.
Awful watch. For that money I'd buy a used TAG, ORIS or such like.
Me too! Or a Longines!