Turning paper into plastic

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  • čas přidán 12. 01. 2018
  • NOTE: I made a mistake in the diagrams for cellulose, all of the glucose units are missing an oxygen atom!
    Paper is made of cellulose, and in this video, I'll be converting it into a plastic called cellulose acetate. I'll be making two forms of it, known as cellulose diacetate and cellulose triacetate.
    Procedure from: goo.gl/LnnbK2
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  • @buffal0008
    @buffal0008 Před 5 lety +7703

    I don't know what he's talking about, *but I love watching this*

    • @alyssashih2895
      @alyssashih2895 Před 4 lety +77

      Oml this is me

    • @berriee7848
      @berriee7848 Před 4 lety +60

      I still didn't learn these things yet so same hehe

    • @Daisy_Darkly
      @Daisy_Darkly Před 4 lety +105

      I don't understand a lot either but it's so interesting! Sometimes I Google around but that's frequently a rabbit hole

    • @crystalking2468
      @crystalking2468 Před 4 lety +6

      same

    • @entirelybonkers8832
      @entirelybonkers8832 Před 4 lety +140

      I listen to these to go to sleep because I don’t understand the words but they aren’t like scary words

  • @tekashto
    @tekashto Před 6 lety +5702

    Cashier: Paper or plastic?
    NileRed: Yes.

  • @kittyloveluvkitty7306
    @kittyloveluvkitty7306 Před 2 lety +492

    I love how he does it like a tutorial, even tho most likely none of us have the knowledge or supplies to do this correctly

    • @oliverkibbe860
      @oliverkibbe860 Před 2 lety +29

      you remember how you had to explain the process in lab reports?

    • @oiytd5wugho
      @oiytd5wugho Před rokem +7

      more like lab reports sound like tutorials

    • @cbtillery135
      @cbtillery135 Před rokem +5

      ​@@oliverkibbe860 I'm pretty sure most of NileRed's viewers haven't even gotten to a high school level of chemistry, and I never had to write a single lab report in a chemistry class.

    • @some69person
      @some69person Před 7 měsíci +1

      Supplies lol, its just paper, concentrated vinegar and drain cleaner

    • @EmeraldForester777
      @EmeraldForester777 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@cbtillery135that's why he's the professional chemist and you are not

  • @seanedging6543
    @seanedging6543 Před 3 lety +335

    Grocery store: "Paper or plastic?"
    NileRed: "Hold my 80% acetic acid"

  • @BobbyDukeArts
    @BobbyDukeArts Před 6 lety +5924

    I don't think I've watched a single video of yours that I didn't like, and I've watched almost every single one. So thank you for keeping me entertained with the wonders of chemistry!

  • @sygnet2335
    @sygnet2335 Před 3 lety +1231

    I love how he’s like “if you have any idea on how to solve this problem put it in the comments”. Idk about you but I came here to enjoy a man work science beyond what I can understand

    • @justarandomsadperson
      @justarandomsadperson Před 3 lety +8

      I wonder why don't you have more likes your comment is actually funnier then the rest..😂

    • @lasagnahog7695
      @lasagnahog7695 Před 3 lety +34

      I wandered down here to see if anyone had a suggestion. Nope.

    • @kyon-kyon-
      @kyon-kyon- Před 3 lety +51

      i actually think it’s pretty neat that nile asks for his viewers’ ideas. goes to show he doesn’t think he knows better than everyone

    • @-Solidwater
      @-Solidwater Před 3 lety +8

      @@kyon-kyon- The thing is that he knows better than most of us.

    • @mrgreen3028
      @mrgreen3028 Před 2 lety +1

      @@kyon-kyon- its to generate comment traffic.

  • @craigenguess326
    @craigenguess326 Před 2 lety +99

    this guy makes the best videos to fall asleep too bc his voice is so pleasant and he won’t wake you up with random loud noises

    • @Moritz___
      @Moritz___ Před rokem +6

      *hammer hits*

    • @hakimskikdy
      @hakimskikdy Před 10 měsíci +7

      I thought I was the only one sleeping to chemistry videos

    • @Atetrigrams
      @Atetrigrams Před 7 měsíci

      @@Moritz___But that’s usually Nileblue

    • @redwithblue
      @redwithblue Před 3 měsíci

      And the way he pronounces is kinda cute ngl.

    • @janetmendoza8861
      @janetmendoza8861 Před měsícem

      In high school I used to fall asleep in my chemistry class…now I can relive it…but I enjoy it…love your videos Nigel ❤

  • @andreiato
    @andreiato Před 3 lety +285

    Next video: turning water into wine

  • @snowpikachu4364
    @snowpikachu4364 Před 4 lety +5748

    Great, *now let’s do that backwards*

  • @thechessfish
    @thechessfish Před 4 lety +3883

    “So just to be safe, I transferred it to a much larger container.”
    HE LEARNS!!! 🙌👏🙌👏

  • @feenie4888
    @feenie4888 Před rokem +59

    nilered is always there for me when i get struck w/ periods of insomnia. entertaining, informative, and narrated with a very calm voice. perfect for late night watching

  • @nitishkr6535
    @nitishkr6535 Před rokem +21

    Hey NileRed, while drying out the acetone of cellulose acetate, try adding diluted sodium hydroxide mixture and heat dry (temperature between 30 - 40 degree Celsius) them and you will get great cellulose acetate film and highly flexible too. If you are uptown doing it again and have any results please let me know.
    Reason: Removal of few more acetyl groups and allowing the cellulose polymerise evenly as well as the sodium hydroxide solution would reduce the contraction due to shock drying of acetone.

    • @riskelshadowwalker7042
      @riskelshadowwalker7042 Před 4 měsíci

      @NileRed hope you saw/see this, please do it again and show us if this works 😅

  • @ant0n-yt
    @ant0n-yt Před 4 lety +4434

    *Everyone Else:* we need to be able to break down plastics
    *NileRed:* Turning Paper to Plastic

    • @CarThings
      @CarThings Před 4 lety +12

      AntonMacG 😂

    • @duskycotw8404
      @duskycotw8404 Před 4 lety +33

      you drink water?

    • @ant0n-yt
      @ant0n-yt Před 4 lety +149

      @@duskycotw8404 never have, never will. why?

    • @duskycotw8404
      @duskycotw8404 Před 4 lety +79

      @@ant0n-yt idk its just ive always questioned what water is and if people in the old days had it and if they did how di d they filter it?

    • @ant0n-yt
      @ant0n-yt Před 4 lety +98

      @@duskycotw8404 they probably filtered it through their socks

  • @elburd
    @elburd Před 5 lety +4594

    I just got 10 brain cells by watching this.

    • @capncrunchgaming5613
      @capncrunchgaming5613 Před 5 lety +187

      @@danielliu2382 damn, you really just killed him like that, didn't you?

    • @zhianxu7992
      @zhianxu7992 Před 4 lety +30

      I think I lost ten...

    • @1.4142
      @1.4142 Před 4 lety +60

      ERROR: SYNTAX
      divide by 0
      calculator.exe has stopped working.

    • @sleepyghostisme7558
      @sleepyghostisme7558 Před 4 lety +4

      Wait wait wait. Jesus was just here, where did he go?

    • @stevenwhite3.1415
      @stevenwhite3.1415 Před 4 lety +11

      So now you have 10 total?

  • @flymachine
    @flymachine Před 2 lety +24

    Can’t wait for you to redo this one, probably one of the least gratifying results but we have to appreciate the time and effort you put into showing not just your successes but failures too

  • @SendMeShoes
    @SendMeShoes Před 3 lety +51

    NileRed: I know it isn't the best piece of plastic but I am still very impressed
    Also NileRed: *InStAnTlY BrEaKs It*

    • @SiveenO
      @SiveenO Před rokem

      "I created you, I can destroy you."

  • @Ravenkiko
    @Ravenkiko Před 5 lety +838

    *makes something beautiful*
    *immediately breaks it for science*

  • @jeconiahjoelmichaelsiregar7917

    NileRed 2018: Turning paper into plastic (sounds plausible)
    NileRed 2019: Turning paper into moonshine (???)

    • @superlolgal555
      @superlolgal555 Před 3 lety +121

      I love how this sounds like a meme but it's straight up not

    • @geck2235
      @geck2235 Před 3 lety +86

      021 - JJ - Sc'19
      NileRed 2030: Turning paper into Ur-235
      NileRed 2031: Making nukes

    • @user-ul1wg4zt9p
      @user-ul1wg4zt9p Před 3 lety +47

      NileRed 2020: tuning moonshine into plastic

    • @akio5250
      @akio5250 Před 3 lety +5

      This aged I guess

    • @dylansheaves4743
      @dylansheaves4743 Před 3 lety +18

      Nile red 2020: turning face masks into meat?

  • @johnshelton4753
    @johnshelton4753 Před 3 lety +111

    His videos give iq , in the sameway putting stickers on a racecar give horsepower , its just magic

    • @FruitRooster
      @FruitRooster Před 3 lety +4

      The rock and morty of youtube

    • @mrbappoo7430
      @mrbappoo7430 Před 3 lety +1

      @@FruitRooster or the rick and mirty of CZcams

    • @anishka4207
      @anishka4207 Před 3 lety

      @J Hemphill it was obviously a joke dumbass

    • @TheWorldPillow
      @TheWorldPillow Před 3 lety +1

      @@anishka4207 I think he was joking too, and had a fond memory of that Simpsons clip. People just do really strange things sometimes.

    • @Bananamations
      @Bananamations Před 3 lety

      @@anishka4207 it was obviously a joke dumbass

  • @VintageTechFan
    @VintageTechFan Před 3 lety +10

    10:15 ..
    That shrinking effect is used in covering RC airplanes with paper or silk (and also for real airplanes with cloth covering!). You paint the paper with a laquer made of it, as it dries it sticks to the structure and tightens very well. The forces can be strong enough to BREAK the structure under it, if you use to much of it at once on a very light build. In this case, campher is used as a plasticizer.
    It also works with nitrocellulose and is sometimes still done, because it also greatly improves the flammability if you want to burn your plane after a bad crash.
    So, if you still try to make it again, maybe try campher. Don't have any idea about the relative amount needed, though.

  • @goodvibes4891
    @goodvibes4891 Před 6 lety +3654

    Expected clickbait, actually found an educated man who is a great explainer. Noicee

  • @tarostartic8833
    @tarostartic8833 Před 4 lety +831

    i fail to understand how im failing high school science yet could spend hours binging these videos...

    • @ActuallyRocatex
      @ActuallyRocatex Před 4 lety +4

      ditto

    • @eliannevdlinden6047
      @eliannevdlinden6047 Před 4 lety +139

      the educational system isn't for everyone, don't let it discourage you! My brother is super smart and is always doing this kind of stuff, he didn't finish school either. As for me it is kinda the same, I like this kind of stuff but I'm very bad at math, I went to art school and frankly it's so much more fun! Do what makes you happy, you can learn school subjects you really enjoy via books. And you can filter out the boring stuff too.

    • @kennethstreet7868
      @kennethstreet7868 Před 4 lety +25

      Delivery and setting

    • @LolLol-hk4cv
      @LolLol-hk4cv Před 4 lety +1

      Better not pursue any further

    • @leonardopessanha5128
      @leonardopessanha5128 Před 3 lety +63

      It's because what you have here is just an apresentation, I highly doubt you had learned anything. You didn't see the calculation, didn't really learned how the reaction works and how to predict some reaction. This is why you binge this, is nothing more than this, binge

  • @pkverma581
    @pkverma581 Před 3 lety +82

    Alternative title : *Scientist man uses trees to harm the earth itself.*

    • @TheWorldPillow
      @TheWorldPillow Před 3 lety +13

      Actually, I think this type of plastic might be more easily reversible than most plastics, to get rid of the acetate and again convert it into a biodegradable cellulose product. Besides, the actual point of doing bio-based plastics is not necessarily to deal with the waste product, but to meet the demand for plastics in a more renewably /sourced/ way -- trees can grow again, but most plastics currently are made of petroleum products, which cannot be renewed. So it's a step in the right direction.
      Plus, as plastic recycling grows and becomes more standardized, the dream is that the created plastics can be recycled and reused a lot before going to waste. That required consumer participation though and good collection facilities.
      And I think for handling the end-of-life waste streams of plastic, there's also a lot of research being done into how to convert plastics back into biodegradable materials (i.e. better able to dissolve in water and be eaten by bacteria). Right now, I believe it's just so energy-intensive that it's not economically or environmentally really worth it, but as time goes on, the research will improve. Efforts are already definitely being made in this direction. The creation of plastic itself is not evil; there's a reason why people use it so frequently and unless you can change the demand-side reasons for why plastic is so highly used everywhere, for now we're just trying to deal with how to better deal with renewably sourcing the material and also dealing with the end waste product.
      You can check out Life Cycle Analysis (LCA) techniques for more info on this.

  • @doggo1761
    @doggo1761 Před 3 lety +31

    Anything with Cellulose in it:
    Exists
    NileRed:
    I CAN HARVEST YOU

  • @alexc8992
    @alexc8992 Před 4 lety +1193

    Cashier: We don’t take cash here.
    NileRed: give me a minute

    • @omegagamer1860
      @omegagamer1860 Před 4 lety +19

      Alex C i under stood this and that made my day

    • @solfindus
      @solfindus Před 4 lety +3

      Omega Gamer i didnt what’s the joke?

    • @DavidL-qb8cl
      @DavidL-qb8cl Před 4 lety +49

      @@solfindus the joke is that he would turn his plastic shopping bags into dollar bills to pay

    • @mahirooyama9424
      @mahirooyama9424 Před 4 lety +82

      The joke is he would take his cash and turn it into plastic

    • @mahirooyama9424
      @mahirooyama9424 Před 4 lety +12

      But money isnt made of paper so it doesnt really work out.

  • @rosewinter4818
    @rosewinter4818 Před 6 lety +381

    At first I thought he said acidic acid and I was like "no really?"

  • @clapclapno
    @clapclapno Před 2 lety +6

    To wash out the acid I would wash it with methanol or ethanol instead of water (or maybe a different solvent). You could also just soxhlet extract it overnight with an organic solvent. It might give you a drier polymer to work with and ensure you don’t have any moisture in your films. To extrude it into fiber, you should look up some videos on processing with thermoplastics since that’s the kind of polymer it is. Also, when casting your films you might want to try a different solvent and since you’re able to adjust the viscosity of the liquid before drying, you could try to spread it evenly across a glass plate. Then flow nitrogen over it to slowly dry the film.

  • @stillderpy5048
    @stillderpy5048 Před 3 lety +4

    Checkout lady: paper or plastic
    Nile: yes.

  • @HamrickCE
    @HamrickCE Před 6 lety +780

    Remember talking about photography? The cellulose in wood is 40% while the cellulose in cotton is 90%... which is why cotton is used for wet plate photography. Try again with cotton and see if it changes your impurity problems. When I worked with collodion for wet plate photography the collodion was slightly yellow but was more "plastic" in nature. Hope this helps since I'm not a chemist but experienced in one of these 2 forms of chemistry.

    • @Knasen3
      @Knasen3 Před 6 lety +50

      HamrickCE The cellulose in wood is 40 %, yes. Filter paper is completely ash free and I would guess it's above 96 % cellulose, the rest being hemicellulose.

    • @MrCreeper1O2
      @MrCreeper1O2 Před 6 lety +1

      HamrickCE This is what I was thinking. Impurities in the paper of not being completely cellulose

    • @alllove1754
      @alllove1754 Před 6 lety +3

      I did similar with nitration of cellulose rich paper, but with nitric acid, then acetone, making a putty which would dry into a dirty white plastic, which of course burns w a quickness

    • @h4d266
      @h4d266 Před 4 lety +3

      HamrickCE what the fuck did you say

    • @erickmark2
      @erickmark2 Před 4 lety +3

      @@h4d266 I think its science?

  • @B4WZeR
    @B4WZeR Před 4 lety +333

    i dont know how i always end up here in the middle of the night
    anyways, enjoying my stay, seen most of the vids now

  • @joegru7280
    @joegru7280 Před rokem +3

    nile i need you. chemistry at 1 am is fascinating, your youtube channel is the best keep it up

  • @mpozainno
    @mpozainno Před 2 lety

    Always Refreshing to see you. It's good to know you are alive, knowing you might one time try out something that will blow your mind literally

  • @liettemaccoul162
    @liettemaccoul162 Před 4 lety +655

    Everyone: we need to start using paper straws!
    This guy: cheats the system

    • @berriee7848
      @berriee7848 Před 4 lety +3

      Hehe

    • @athendavis100
      @athendavis100 Před 3 lety +7

      OK BUT THATS SMART I hate paper straws

    • @lil_weasel219
      @lil_weasel219 Před 3 lety +9

      @@athendavis100 buy metal ones.
      plastic cutting into wildlife's noses and organs cus humans "dont like paper ones" is unethical max

    • @n2k970
      @n2k970 Před 3 lety +4

      It's the fox! u rather have the (relatively) small amount of animals dying from plastic (which is a LOT less than the amount hunted/killed from other causes) or kill the earth with the 100x more pollution from paper straws? Personally I’d rather save the planet and save 99.99% of animals as opposed to 0.01%. Not sure about metal straws, though I assume they also cause a lot of pollution.

    • @lil_weasel219
      @lil_weasel219 Před 3 lety +9

      @@n2k970 metal straws dont pollute. they are inert and heavy, and sink to the sea floor. Animals dont eat it.
      Please, for the love of everything start Ecology 101

  • @zeguyy
    @zeguyy Před 4 lety +111

    People: we *need* to ban plastics! It’s killing the world!
    Nilered: *hold my chromyl chloride!*

  • @javiernunez6566
    @javiernunez6566 Před 4 měsíci

    i have watched like 20 videos of you, i still don't understand a single one nor learning nothing but it keeps me entertained so thank you for that! and please keep making videos

  • @robertpowell2225
    @robertpowell2225 Před 3 lety +1

    They don't seem to use much of this kind of plastic anymore. But I remember it on donuts and things like this that were in a box. and I remember it was quite fragile even then very frustrating because your finger would go right through it and then your donuts would dry out. Great job keep up the good work!

  • @-__-_-_--__--_-__-_____--_-___

    I love how you couldn't stop playing with the wet triacetate. I would've done the same, it looks so fun

  • @TigreDemon
    @TigreDemon Před 3 lety +140

    Her : "Can you get me the plastic bag ?"
    *NileRed handing a paper bag*

    • @mariarashid3677
      @mariarashid3677 Před 3 lety +1

      lol

    • @MythMediocre
      @MythMediocre Před rokem +3

      Corporate needs you to find the difference between this picture and this picture.
      Nilered looking at a paper and plastic bag: *they're the same picture.*

  • @alexnik8334
    @alexnik8334 Před 3 lety +1

    You can try to cool it down very fast after melting, so it will polymerize in amorphic form. It will be clear, flexible and will consist less to no cracks.

  • @Blalack77
    @Blalack77 Před 3 lety +2

    Maybe you could do a series called something like "Alchemy" where you do crazy transformations and turn things into other things like in this video or maybe one on chemistry projects/experiments that can be done with readily available household ingredients/equipment.

  • @carlygarris4449
    @carlygarris4449 Před 5 lety +60

    I’m beyond clueless about this, but I feel smart watching this

  • @darkscienceyt
    @darkscienceyt Před 6 lety +460

    This was very cool, I had no idea about this process too.

  • @user-em6hr1nm7j
    @user-em6hr1nm7j Před 8 měsíci

    Hearty congrats... sir... mind blowing.....😃 best wishes for u'r future researches....🤯

  • @notmuchmate658
    @notmuchmate658 Před 3 lety +2

    These videos help so much with my chemistry homework cant thank you enough

  • @randy25rhoads
    @randy25rhoads Před 6 lety +277

    My old celluloid fountain pens are terrified of you and your solvents…

  • @OptimusPhillip
    @OptimusPhillip Před 4 lety +214

    The butterfly broke easily, but the ladybug put up quite a fight.
    The new season of Miraculous is getting pretty intense.

    • @thepathogenicruler1399
      @thepathogenicruler1399 Před 4 lety +4

      I love Miraculous!

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      @sylvie_on Před 4 lety +2

      Ayyyyyyyyy

    • @unoriginalhazard
      @unoriginalhazard Před 4 lety +22

      Jesus christ, never thought I'd see a MLB reference here.

    • @OptimusPhillip
      @OptimusPhillip Před 3 lety +9

      @@jenisdauncle _Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir_ (commonly called _Miraculous_ or _Miraculous Ladybug_ for short) is a French cartoon about two superheroes, Ladybug and Cat Noir, who fight against a butterfly-themed supervillain.

    • @Elijahbanta
      @Elijahbanta Před 3 lety +1

      @@OptimusPhillip i believe its a moth themed guy

  • @JoshP08
    @JoshP08 Před 3 lety

    I'm am fascinated by this! I understand a few of these terms but only by paying extra attention in science and printing out my own materials.

  • @stacyswift191
    @stacyswift191 Před 10 měsíci

    it's wild how interesting his videos are. i have no idea why i've been learning about chemistry, there is 0 chance i will ever need this information.

  • @kptech4028
    @kptech4028 Před 4 lety +44

    "[It] wasn't very strong, and with a bit of force, I was able to crack it into several pieces." - NileRed, the Martial arts master

  • @phaniemarie83
    @phaniemarie83 Před 6 lety +9

    I started college last week for pre-nursing and was thrilled that I could understand the biochemistry portion of A&P a little better because of your videos. Thank you so much!!
    I’ve been subscribed to your channel for well over a year, maybe even two. I’m not a chemist, I’m just genuinely interested in your content- you’re a great teacher to boot.

  • @color4452
    @color4452 Před 2 lety +4

    4:18 is it just me or did the stir bar forget how to swim for a second? The poor thing had a worse panic attack than I have in the past week, and that's saying a lot.

  • @Rederick683
    @Rederick683 Před 3 lety

    I had this idea and did it for my uni project, but was inspired by your paper to moonshine video

  • @kaylynhandley1920
    @kaylynhandley1920 Před 4 lety +259

    Imagine doing this for a 6th grade science fair

    • @asahearts1
      @asahearts1 Před 3 lety +7

      They wouldn't let you use acids or glass lest you accidentally cut yourself or eat it or something.

    • @mystaplays3569
      @mystaplays3569 Před 3 lety

      @@asahearts1 um sixth grade is relatively high enough to know all those I believe

    • @asahearts1
      @asahearts1 Před 3 lety +17

      @@mystaplays3569 That's the point. The education system treats even 17 and 18 year olds like toddlers. They're never made to take responsibility or grow up. Heck, even college students are infantilized. Makes for easier to control sheep.

    • @thebros4907
      @thebros4907 Před 3 lety +1

      It only takes 4 days for you to finish you project

    • @aviralsood8141
      @aviralsood8141 Před 3 lety +3

      @@asahearts1 Someone has an out of control superiority complex.

  • @isathegeat4828
    @isathegeat4828 Před 4 lety +35

    Next video: *Turning lead into gold like an alchemist*

    • @pestilence.and.plague
      @pestilence.and.plague Před 4 lety +2

      Well, theoretically, it can be done, although just a small area will be converted and it will be very costly.

    • @rainbow_angel8225
      @rainbow_angel8225 Před 2 lety +2

      @@pestilence.and.plague sell the gold to make more money

  • @alicemillen4649
    @alicemillen4649 Před 2 lety +1

    I love this channel, its so fascinating

  • @ktrnch2992
    @ktrnch2992 Před 3 lety

    would love to see a video on plasticizers and different cellulose derivatives!

  • @hawks1ish
    @hawks1ish Před 6 lety +191

    If you’re worried about it being opaque go talk to a chemistry professor they’ll clear it right up lol

    • @jakobygames
      @jakobygames Před 6 lety +52

      Boooo get off the stage

    • @hennyblanc01
      @hennyblanc01 Před 6 lety +1

      lmao

    • @m3n4lyf
      @m3n4lyf Před 5 lety +57

      I tried this. Terrible advice. He said that what I was doing was _clearly_ illegal, and that the outlook for my future was _cloudy_ .

    • @corison2058
      @corison2058 Před 4 lety

      Joshua Lansell-Kenny well played.

    • @ravenprincess3243
      @ravenprincess3243 Před 3 lety

      Zed Smith we need a backstory 😭

  • @RepublikSivizien
    @RepublikSivizien Před 6 lety +156

    Try cotton, because the molecules in paper are shorter due to processing. It should be more stable with longer molecules. You could add just a bit of this solution to the mold, wait some minutes and repeat this, so the object does not shrink too much.
    EDIT: I guess this brown-stuff may be because of lignin, which is present in paper (but afaik not in cotton).

    • @HattmannenNilsson
      @HattmannenNilsson Před 6 lety +4

      I was thinking the same thing. Periodically adding plastic to the moulds to compensate for the contraction.
      Another thought that struck me was to put the mould on a vibrating bed to encourage any air bubbles to wander out of the goo. Sort of the same thing you do when pouring concrete - you vibrate the wet concrete to get the air bubbled to migrate to the top so you don't end up with a voids that make the finished product more brittle.
      I might be completely off on this one, though. There's lots of things I know nothing about. Moulding cellulose acetate is just one of them.

    • @RyanDB
      @RyanDB Před 6 lety +1

      I don't imagine that would work very well, You'd end up with structural defects throughout the moulded piece, and it would probably come out very clouded as the defects scattered light

    • @RepublikSivizien
      @RepublikSivizien Před 6 lety

      thats true, but still better than this ugly formed crap.

    • @groupraitodigital9784
      @groupraitodigital9784 Před 5 lety

      In order to mix it properly, u have to break it down. Cotton wont help. U will have to break cotton into paper eventually.

    • @heylee2766
      @heylee2766 Před 3 lety

      thanks rainbow dash

  • @Ashiixz
    @Ashiixz Před rokem

    my dad and i love these videos, thisis like, the one thing we bond over so thankkk youu

  • @robertf1720
    @robertf1720 Před rokem

    Hey friend -- I worked at a cellulose film factory for awhile in Topeka, KS. They used the carbon disulfide route for biodegradable packaging film. Space-age technology developed in the early 1900s, there used to be hundreds of engineers who spent their life on this in the 1950s-1980s, then polyester and polyethylene erased their factories. We had to look at notes from that era to troubleshoot complex chemistry issues on a high-speed production line

  • @ender1242
    @ender1242 Před 4 lety +18

    *Isn't this the opposite of recycling?*

  • @twocvbloke
    @twocvbloke Před 6 lety +28

    Seems you're basically making Tenite plastic, one version of which (Tenite Butyrate) was used for making telephone parts in the US, and today, said telephones smell like rotting cheese due to the plastic slowly breaking down and releasing a foot-odour type smell... :)

    • @NickC_222
      @NickC_222 Před 4 lety +4

      That's interesting as hell. This is the kind of comment we need more of.

  • @clertucky1
    @clertucky1 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Me in 2050 watching this dude turn water into wine because you can be intoxicated by water

  • @Bleachc15
    @Bleachc15 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Chemistry is amazing but I’m convinced this man is an alchemist 😂

  • @SuperBone1392
    @SuperBone1392 Před 5 lety +10

    Hiya! I don't know if you've re-visited this project, but if you did, then i would recommend trying to use Camphor as a plasticiser. That's typically what is used in making celluloid for fountain pens, which is what I was trying to learn by watching your video. Definitely have a good idea of where to begin.

  • @Muonium1
    @Muonium1 Před 6 lety +532

    do a vid on how to turn lead into gold next.

    • @darkscienceyt
      @darkscienceyt Před 6 lety +91

      He's gonna need a reactor.

    • @ericmueller6836
      @ericmueller6836 Před 6 lety +19

      Questions for Science That's for mercury to gold.

    • @darkscienceyt
      @darkscienceyt Před 6 lety +58

      you can convert lead into gold via beta decay. Which is why you'd need a reactor

    • @Muonium1
      @Muonium1 Před 6 lety +22

      you can also do it with lead and bismuth. really pretty much any heavy metal would work, you just have to choose the correct ion beam to bombard it with to get to 79P ~118N.

    • @Nae_Ayy
      @Nae_Ayy Před 6 lety +30

      It's easy. Just take the lead, add or remove the correct amount of protons, then BAM! Au everywhere.

  • @ahmadprogramming1197
    @ahmadprogramming1197 Před 3 lety

    This is actually interesting, not that I know anything, but l like seeing the steps.

  • @alessandrolamarca3127

    Man, hi, love your channel. I'm a chemist too. I've worked with films and gels in my MsC. Can I give you a tip? To get rid of the bubbles when making films and plastics you must use a vacuum pump. This also helps when you're using solvents for casting, because solvents evaporate faster.

  • @cybruswolf9354
    @cybruswolf9354 Před 4 lety +308

    California: ban plastic straws, they’re killing the turtles
    NileRed: I’m a boutta end this states whole career

    • @creeperawman.9399
      @creeperawman.9399 Před 4 lety +3

      Hi other me

    • @m0rtez713
      @m0rtez713 Před 4 lety +2

      Hello green friends!

    • @demoniack81
      @demoniack81 Před 4 lety +5

      He doesn't randomly throw the plastic in the environment, unlike the sort of people who use lots of plastic straws.

    • @Luciel.680
      @Luciel.680 Před 4 lety +2

      demoniack81 Ok so I have to use plastic straws because my family can’t find metal or paper ones anywhere to buy but we recycle them responsibly and in the right way, would it be ok to keep on using them then?

    • @demoniack81
      @demoniack81 Před 4 lety +7

      ​@@Luciel.680 Well I guess mine was an over generalization, but there is definitely an issue with people getting fast food to eat on the go and then just discarding the trash somewhere instead of disposing of it properly.
      What I have to ask you though is: do you really even need the straw? Why not just drink from the glass?

  • @Monjipour
    @Monjipour Před 6 lety +13

    i'm working on actalisation and recognizing this reaction and the anhydrid hydrolysation made me more interested in my chemistry class x)

  • @vinusebastian9875
    @vinusebastian9875 Před 3 lety

    You could have also tried dissolving the solvent moulded remains in acetone a second and final time, and then melting the diacetate part.

  • @TheWorldPillow
    @TheWorldPillow Před 3 lety

    I guess this is a couple of years ago, but I think the most obvious improvement to the end product that I can see is having a more uniform melting system. A lot of the cracking seen in the end products in the video I think were due to the disuniform grains and imperfections already created inside the end product; the strength along those grain planes would be so much weaker than the mass product that it could easily fall there. No doubt the impurities were also involved, preventing stronger internal bonding, but I think the mechanical side for these end products contributed more than the chemical side.
    How to do this in practice: could you put it in boiling water or something? (If the test tube is graded to stand that level of heat) Then, if it's not hot enough, then maybe you can stick in the heat gun. Then at least you have a more uniform heating environment and you can sort of just let it go for a while until the mixture becomes more uniform and the grain boundaries dissolve as it melts, until it resolidifies. Probably time is the key for that again.
    As for spinning plastic at home... maybe just get like a yarn extruder or something? Like a small box with a hole where the entrance region is a large cylinder that tapers into a smaller, thinner nozzle and a motor at the end side pulls the product through and wraps it around itself (you pull it rather than push/extrude it for yarns for better quality, for big things like steel you just push stuff through the extruder). Then, optionally, you could spin it along a couple different motors/cylinders after the pulling motor to keep the shape uniform and store it. Most factories have several iterations of extruder box and motor-pull coils to get a thin fiber width, since there's a limit to how much thinner you can make it on each iteration. If you have a motor I think you could jury rig something that would look sometihng like a mini plastic yarn-spinning factory. Could be pretty fun.
    (Diagrams online can probably explain it better than I can lol, but point is, I think you could definitely due it with a slow-spinning motor and maybe even a hand-made box with a tapered cylinder hole. Just need to make sure that the hole coating doesn't stick to the plastic you're pulling through and your taper isn't too too big.)
    And really, awesome video. Thanks for posting this.

  • @DeeDee-ye5qe
    @DeeDee-ye5qe Před 5 lety +52

    now do it in reverse

  • @noalear
    @noalear Před 3 lety +17

    Please redo this with your current level of skill and experience. I'd love to see the improvement!

  • @ek3l348
    @ek3l348 Před 3 lety

    thanks you
    this helped me on my research paper :)

  • @mikewuerth4218
    @mikewuerth4218 Před 2 lety

    About 30 years ago, I made cellulose nitrate from a cotton ball. I treated the cotton with nitric acid and a small amount of sulfuric acid as a catalyst. By only letting it react for a short time, I nitrified the cellulose on the surface of the cotton fibers, without destroying the structure of the cotton ball. I washed the cotton ball in water and let it dry. Acetone dissolved the cellulose nitrate, but not the remaining unreacted cellulose. I dripped the solution onto a glass plate. Once dry, I easily peeled off a sheet of plastic that was fully transparent. It was flexible, but broke like your acetate. When ignited, it burned up in a quick flash.

  • @pauliefox2077
    @pauliefox2077 Před 6 lety +45

    "Would you like paper or plastic?"
    "Yes."

    • @ilostsomebody4143
      @ilostsomebody4143 Před 4 lety +8

      did you know you can turn plastic into rubber and rubber into tar and tar into acid and the acid into a diy chem bomb and that means paper is just a bomb in the shadows

  • @JACE__111
    @JACE__111 Před 5 lety +34

    drinking game: drink one shot of vodka every time he says cellulose

  • @p1nkfreud
    @p1nkfreud Před 3 lety +1

    You should have added one of the brominated flame retardants to see if you could make your own burn-proof plastic

  • @nataliegutierrez2458
    @nataliegutierrez2458 Před 3 lety

    I don’t think you’ve ever clickbaited me with your thumbnails before and I appreciate that.

  • @U014B
    @U014B Před 5 lety +8

    Maybe try it with wood dust instead of paper? I imagine you'd get a purer sample of cellulose since it doesn't have all the stuff put into paper. (Perhaps even the lignin will help hold everything together and make it stronger?)
    Ooh, even better, make papyrus and use that!

  • @spookyman5ever
    @spookyman5ever Před 4 lety +67

    everyone: * does this*
    environment: am i a joke to you?
    wait no support teamtrees

    • @DimT670
      @DimT670 Před 3 lety +2

      Yea the fun part about bioplastics is that they aren't all biodegradable so it's really not that good for the environment or the waste cycle. Some of them aren't even recyclable!

    • @z9nc982
      @z9nc982 Před 3 lety

      Shadow Gamer its better to have them decompose because if they dont then they will float around indefinitely, slowly leaching/outgassing toxins

    • @TheWorldPillow
      @TheWorldPillow Před 3 lety +1

      @@DimT670 The major point about bioplastics is actually not the end-of-life but instead the sourcing. Currently plastics are largely made via petroleum-sourced products, so they are doubly bad since they are neither renewable sourced nor are the products well biodegradable when they go to landfill. Bioplastics at least are renewably sourced, since trees can be regrown and are a very efficient way of extracting cellulose (and foresting companies, to my understanding, are increasingly trying to manage their land and replanting of trees; it's only in their long-term benefit as well, especially given all the PR about being eco-friendly and the slow death of traditional mass paper products like... paper). Since this doesn't change the demand for plastics at all, it's reasonable to at least try to improve one part of the plastic life cycle to make it more environmentally friendly. There's also been a lot of research into not just using trees for cellulose extraction, but also many other alternate fibers like wheat straw residues (typically a waste product), elephant grass, hemp, sugar cane, bamboo, etc. -- many of which have their own problems and are not typically as convenient as trees, but still also a very renewable resource that grow faster than trees.
      But yeah, it's true that the waste side/end-of-life of these bioplastics needs to be dealt with better. I think there's a ton of research being done into that. For example in this case I think the plastics he was making would be very chemically reversible; you just need to continue the steps he did for turning the triacetate version into the diacetate version, and then it's normal cellulose again that can be dissolved real easy. But a lot of the more effective and in use bioplastics don't have such an easy reversing mechanism. It's a lot of case-by-case analysis and trying to figure out what's both economically and environmentally effective.
      You can learn more about Life Cycle Analysis (LCA) for more info. :)
      (And of course, btw, these aren't the only research efforts being made -- there's a ton of people in universities and even in some companies trying to target specific areas of paper product production or cellulose usage to make them more efficient, which in turn also makes them more environmentally friendly. If you want to listen to me ramble on I can list some of them here too.)

    • @TheWorldPillow
      @TheWorldPillow Před 3 lety +1

      Here's also a good article on the clearing of trees and the different ways its done and why: www.canr.msu.edu/news/timber_harvest_methods
      It's not always done perfectly and there can be a lot of sloppy practices in practice, I think, but generally it's getting better and there are a lot of smart ways to go about it.
      Note: I especially kind of liked the article's point of sort clearcutting (just chopping down all the mature trees in the area to let sapling that require full sunlight to grow) essentially "doing natures work for it" by clearing trees when historically usually forest fires and stuff would take the role of clearing all the trees and renewing the forests. (So this basically allows us to use the trees for our own processes rather than them just being burned -- which ofc might provide good fertilizer but also I think just releases more CO2 in the air probably and we can come up with some replacement fertilizers or see how the ecological system well accounts for it). In practice, it can also just help people's lives by preventing the spread of forest fires when applied in the right areas. You just really have to look at it on a per-regional and ecological basis.

  • @chloehubbell0508
    @chloehubbell0508 Před 2 lety +2

    i always fall asleep to this. better than anything else

  • @aybarsiya
    @aybarsiya Před 3 lety

    Please make a video about the possibilites of deconstructing plastic.

  • @deeboseph
    @deeboseph Před 4 lety +24

    11:15 The doctor when I was born

  • @Nae_Ayy
    @Nae_Ayy Před 6 lety +25

    Excellent video as always, Red. I've recently gotten into chemistry myself; I think it's amazing that we can control the fundamental makeup of our world to bend to our needs. I really, really love your, I guess, experimentation videos, where you really don't know what you're going to end up with, but you try it anyway.
    My grandma had this old bottle from her youth that contained wintergreen and menthol, which you rub on your skin to make pain disappear and to leave a weird "minty fresh" feeling on your skin - and she loved it. She, being old and all, has a lot of random pains. Once I get a lab up and running I plan on using your wintergreen from aspirin guide to make her some pain relieving lotion or oil. I'm already growing mint, so all I need is to distill the menthol from the leaves to make the other ingredient.
    I dont really know why I'm sharing this, but I guess I just wanted to tell someone since I'm keeping it a surprise for my gma.
    I look forward to more videos!

    • @72I32895305634058340
      @72I32895305634058340 Před 6 lety +3

      menthol, not Methanol

    • @Nae_Ayy
      @Nae_Ayy Před 6 lety +2

      HoboSammiches do you know what the difference between methanol and menthol is?

    • @WhoisA__
      @WhoisA__ Před 5 lety

      update?

  • @sulfuricacid1674
    @sulfuricacid1674 Před 3 lety +1

    bro you have 2.1 million subs now i remember back before you had 500k

  • @BroversXproductions
    @BroversXproductions Před 3 lety

    Sorbitol is another plasticiser, which is often used for PLA blends.

  • @googleeatsdicks
    @googleeatsdicks Před 6 lety +187

    Anyone on for an "anyway" drinking game?

  • @grantbeyea8741
    @grantbeyea8741 Před 4 lety +23

    8:22 "when it's done I'm left wwith some nice hard and crunchy powder"

  • @stevenwillis548
    @stevenwillis548 Před 10 měsíci

    If you still have any plastic gloves left from the grape soda, extract some phthalate and try that as a plasticiser. If you can get the diacetate to melt, you might be able to spin threads using the cotton candy machine. Might also be able to grind it and feed it through a 3-d printer head.

  • @max16
    @max16 Před 2 lety

    i think you need to heat the mixture as it dissolves so you can add more of the "plastic" to the mix. that way you can get a super concentrate when you pour.

  • @paigesnowball7491
    @paigesnowball7491 Před 3 lety +3

    I absolutely adore how you say “mills” instead of “milligrams.” I love that I’m not the only one :)

    • @KatieTheDev
      @KatieTheDev Před 3 lety +3

      I thought it was milliliters not milligrams

    • @Zach.O
      @Zach.O Před rokem

      @@KatieTheDev i thought it was millimeters not milliliters

    • @KatieTheDev
      @KatieTheDev Před rokem

      @@Zach.O mm is a measure of distance, not volume.

  • @mortlet5180
    @mortlet5180 Před 6 lety +24

    Would purifying the cellulose source before hand (basically making Rayon) help with the impurities?
    Regarding filtering, maybe you could do a more graduated filtering (with very course silica gel at the top, fining down to a little bigger than your filter pores, to make it more resistant to blocking). Also, maybe it would help to reduce the solution's viscosity, by warming it up and/or adding some dcm, alcohol or a mixture of both, before you go to filter it.
    One last idea, was to dilute the solution a little bit with water, and then try to extract the cellulose triacetate with dcm.

  • @realmannotcow
    @realmannotcow Před 3 lety

    If you got a filament extruder you could make the plastic into a filament that might be able to be used for 3d printing

  • @Southwest_smiley
    @Southwest_smiley Před 3 lety

    For just messing around whit it and not having a formula you did grate

  • @DillonAlderson
    @DillonAlderson Před 6 lety +83

    Can you make a video on trying to get the sulfuric acid out of an onion

    • @theterrarian591
      @theterrarian591 Před 6 lety +3

      I just found out onions release sulfur gas...

    • @cobalt7530
      @cobalt7530 Před 6 lety +2

      It's not practical at all as there is so little sulfur in the onions

    • @thatguy6657
      @thatguy6657 Před 6 lety

      Dragos Merisca Yea it would be better to get a car battery and a hot plate

    • @thatguy6657
      @thatguy6657 Před 6 lety

      BMAN488877 Meh good point

    • @cobalt7530
      @cobalt7530 Před 6 lety

      BMAN488877 ok but I must tell you that most of the sulfur in the onions is in the corn of vitamin b1, of which an onion has 0.046 mg. If this is all converted to sulfuric acid, we'd get 0.016 mg of it. It is impossible to work on such a small scale in a home lab.

  • @SteveMelissaMcAdams
    @SteveMelissaMcAdams Před 4 lety +8

    The last 2 brain cells in my head: Mmm Yes, This will make you very smart

  • @AllTheOthers
    @AllTheOthers Před 3 lety +18

    I wanted to see how durable it was, *So I decided to get my hammer*
    Thats gonna be me when I finally have a child.

  • @swaggestaimee3861
    @swaggestaimee3861 Před rokem

    I watch your vids when I sleep ,your my fave yter!! ❤