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@@thatonestormtrooper2760 exactly their point. "Shin Megami Tensei" can be translated to "Rebirth of the goddess", after all. Hence the demon race, "Megami" or, goddess. I know I'm 2 years late with this reply.
@@applejuicemessiah4590 the other guy knows, he's saying that smt iv is not the first megaten game that actually have a goddess being revived/rebirthed
*everyone circles around Flynn* Isabeau: Congratulations on completing the Quest Fugiwara: Congratulations on completing the Quest Skins: Congratulations on completing the Quest Hugo: Congratulations on completing the Quest K: Congratulations on completing the Quest Burroughs: Congratulations on completing the Quest Masakado: Congratulations on completing the Quest Izanami: Congratulations on completing the Quest Flynn: Thank you all... See you soon, Johnathan. See you Soon, Walter. And to all the Samurai and Hunters: Congratulations on completing the Quest (I'm sorry, I had to)
Spirit of Johnathan: Congratulations on completing the quest Spirit of Walter: Congratulations on completing the quest. Spirit of Johnathan: May we see each other again... Spirit of Walter: ...Some other time. *Sometimes later* Flynn: Oyie Akira! You sure about this? ???: Yeah...I'm sure everything will be alright. (To Be Continued)
@@BiggusWeeabus That's not the case with Devil Survivor. In those games the best outcome is chaos (Naoya good) imo. Not only do you restore the status quo you also eliminate the demons and get rid of god's influence over humanity for good. It's basically a neutral ending but better.
This is probably the most cathartic ending in SMT history: -Masakado's last warning. -The way the Firmament shatters. -Everybody in Tokyo staring at the sky again in awe.
The girl that turns into a woman at 9:00 looks and sounds a lot like Burroughs, doesn¡t she? She was the Goddess of Tokyo, according to STEPHEN. Thanks to Omega's efforts in reuniting Mikado and Tokyo, she has revived and returned to her true form. Also, STEPHEN said she created Burroughs based on a dead person, and since you were trying to revive a dead deaity in the Neutral route, then I assume Burroughs was a Goddess (THE Goddess) all along.
Honestly, when the rocks started falling I legit thought the Firmament was going to crumble and crush absolutely everyone, turning the Neutral Ending into just another Bad End in disguise. Given how SMT works, I wouldn't put that past it.
Burroughs was the spirit of the gauntlet. The goddess of tokyo was a child for most of the game. Burroughs was not. Therefore Burroughs could not be the goddess.
the ending is aweome...i hoped it was longer though i mean.....after all the hell we been through to revive her we only get *thanks* real bummer man...
He becomes the final boss for the DLC, still pretty disappointing that they didn't make him the final boss of the neutral route. I was so hyped after seeing masakado's true form and going "WAIT, IS HE THE FINAL BOSS?! FUCK YEA" then the credits rolled passed and I'm like "wait wha-"
Yeah, I felt the same. I like to think it's because we see that his interest in Tokyo was born from his own fascination for the culture; he never really hated the Unclean Ones, and the defeat of Merkabah made him realise that his authority meant nothing for his worth as a human being over the citizens of Mikado, or even Tokyo.
@@TheDavyStarAnimatons I think it has to do with that he was a sincere believer and his hatred for the unclean ones came from his belief. When his God was no more there was no reason for him to keep the zealous act and his likable side became apparent
Absolutely! I liked his development a lot, I really thought HE was the suspicious one the whole time. The NPCs in Mikado even tell you later on that he was just the messenger for Gabby
No she isnt, i got the law ending by about two points i didnt count and during her fight she killed my babyboy jack frost in one hit so i melted her face of with megidolaon
So let me get this straight... 4 endings, 3 partners, each representing a pathway for the main character to choose from... Law, Neutral, and Chaos. The 4th ending, the Bad Ending, need not require one... Jonathan = Law, Walter = Chaos, Isabeau = Neutral.
*on the way to congratulating Flynn and Isabae* Fujiwara: They really returned the sun to Tokyo, I dont think ill be able to thank them enough. Skins: Yeah thats all well and good but how about THAT ABYSSAL TERROR LOOMIN OVER TOKYO
Yup. It's implied that Stephen designed Burroghs as a copy of the Goddess and then programmed her into the Demonica Gauntlets to gather data. 25 years ago a man sided with neither the Angels or Demons and defended Tokyo from utter destruction. Then the man was reincarnated as Flynn and Burroughs watched him make the same choices, and stand neutral. So Stephen chose him to be the one to revive the Goddess.
Researching wine, nice to see you've got priorities figured out Hugo. And Masakado is truly huge. Love that. XD The developers of SMT favor the neutral ending in all their games. That's why they make players work hard to earn it. The message I got here is tear down the wall that separates one another lest we wish to live isolated in the dark and close off our fellow man from the light. Thanks for yet another great run of a great 3DS RPG, Omega. I can't wait to start Xillia next week myself.
2) The Chaos and Law endings have the angels or the demons under their will, but in the neutral route, Omega defies them both to create his world, a world where both believers of Heaven and Hell will merge so that the sky barriers that enforced them in will be shattered like the Britain Wall, where in the other endings, the barrier remains untouched, therefore is not the "true" ending, even though he is hailed as hero in killing Lucifer or live in a chaotic world with Merkerbah's death.
Thank you very much omega, I had lots of problems trying to take the neutral way because I played with my heart... But I realized this is a good ending too, ;D
i always like getting the neutral ending when playing megaten games bec it always makes me feel i'm choosing my own path or belief instead of choosing obvious paths given by others( i.e lucifer's chaos,yhvh's order, which have both negative outcomes for me, anarchy or slavery ), and besides you get to pawn both demons and angels at the same time, now that's awesome..
Except in Nocturne's TDE... The characters were complete pricks.. Besides, Getting to fight a planet-sized Lucifer as the final superboss(with 65535hp, the peak value of the int number system) is fun(tedious/mind breaking on higher diff)
Never got into the tedious work of getting the Neutral ending, but I'd like to thank you for doing all these videos, so I could see them for myself, even though I didn't get to experience it firsthand... And I'm not the only one who thinks the endgame credit music seems somehow extremely fitting and loves it, right?
Many years after doing that ending and I realize that not even this ending is 100% happy. Flynn still had to destroy his entire 1500 years old culture and homeland, part of Tokyo (you saw those huge rocks falling, don't tell me nobody or nothing got hurt with that shit) and move his people to an entirely foreign country bringing up problems this kind of mass migration. The fact that they brought their people to Tokyo might help preserving a bit of their culture, but almost all of the landmarks, places and documents are completely destroyed now. And all that not considering the fact that, once again in the series, you had to kill your friends. They sorta killed themselves before that, sure, but you would still feel bad for killing those eldritch abominations knowing that part of them used to be your friends. Also you're reminded by both of the eldritch abominations that no matter what you do they will come back regardless due to how that universe works.There will always those yearning for the things those demons and angels wanted and they will come back to answer to those desires. This ending maybe fulfilling, but when you start looking at what was lost to achieve this and the other caveats you start realize the true nature of this pyrrhic victory. This ending is kind of fucked up.
yeah, I agree, personally this ending is better than both apocalypse's endings because they were either too sweet, because all your friends and Mikado survive or too ambiguous when it's not being dry like killing all your friends and every named human and reducing everything the player worked for in IV to ash leaving nothing behind of the old universe to make a new one that is largely ambiguous this ending has clear ups and downs downs because of what you said and ups because now humanity is free from demons for the time being
Thank you for releasing this. My cartridge is fucked up and just… won’t play the two cutscenes where Masakado takes off the roof… ;-; it crashes EVERY TIME.
Well, after beating the Chaos route is nice to see a happy ending for Isabeau, the most heartbreaking part of any of the paths is seeing how basically only Flynn remains of the 4 friends, 2 of the msacrifice themselves for their goals and Isabeau kills herself to prevent getting killed by one of her friends.
Actually due to the actions of the MC and Issabeau, the people do indeed learn, thus they live in peace together. Plus, what's an SMT game without Lucifer.
Down the line most likely as she is impressed with Flynn very early in the game and drops many hints that she has fallen for him. Her words on Chaos/Law merely cement that she wanted to walk the same path as Flynn. Luckily she can on Neutral and gets her happy ending with him.
I love this game I have beaten this game like 10 times the story to me is wonderful and it made me feel connections :) but now I don't have my 3ds anymore I can't play it :(
I feel that. Luckily I completed SMT IV neutral path before my 3ds got killed by my kids' bubble mixture bath. Probs going to emulate apocalypse to check it out but I'll miss how the game 'feels' on its original hardware.
They are. Burroughs is based off the Goddess of Tokyo and was sent out to find the reincarnated Hero, who followed the same path as the past Hero(Past Flynn), to revive the Goddess of Tokyo and to return balance.
There's a few methods to encounter the fiends semi-quickly... I've run into four of them so far myself. But yeah, it takes a lot of reloading, and a little bit of luck. Will you get a video of the other NG+ bosses such as Azazel and Mastema? I do believe Mother Harlot is one as well, but I've yet to do NG+ Chaos to find her.
Chaos by nature will incite a world of war. But if you watch the law ending, not only does Jonathan show you what DOES happen in the future, but the very last text says that all evil was ousted, that peace will last for eternity with a world full of innocents, and as it says, the world "God yearned to see". Besides, the last quest in the law route is called " the peace that lasts unto eternity".
Hope? Yes, because having to, as you say, defend yourself is a very hopeful future indeed. Yes, I bet they cant wait for the another armageddon war in the future between the armies of law and chaos. See, here is what I like about characters of law and even chaos. They have ALREADY confronted the world for what it is and CHOOSE to do SOMETHING about it. Instead of ignoring the issue, they want to conclude it. Eventually, either Law or Chaos will reign supreme.
In Devil Survivor yes the Law faction is okay with neutral but Metatron still says in the neutral endings that if the main character misuses his power that God and the angels will smite him down.
I love Lilith and her Ring of Gaea (I even like their beliefs), so I hope people are still given the option to join the Ring of Gaea if they want. However their philosophy is pretty much the chaotic faction.
I think it's the little girl you encounter before you meet Stephen. they explain it throughout the game but I think she's supposed to be like a goddess or something.. I just got to Tokyo in my game..
They only exist as long as at least one person believes in them. SO if no one existed to believe in them, they'd cease to be. Or at the very least be drained of all their power, and be the only two beings left in existence.
Neutral really could be seen as the best ending. Why? Because humanity has hope. In the Law and Chaos endings Humanity lacks an actual driving force, being controlled by either God or Lucifer. In the Neutral Ending humanity is forced to stand on it's own feet and confront the world for what it is. And the people of Mikado aren't insects, they'll be able to defend themselves.
Yeah.... definitely like this ending a lot more. Isabeau is alive, Hope is restored, and everything good with the world (for now) Now, I'm curious what the Protag and Isabeau will do now after all this craziness. Have a family perhaps? Would be nice.
Yes, because destroying Lucifer and Merkebah, becoming an Icon the people in Tokyo can rally behind, and uniting two peoples as one is "ignoring the issue". Masakado flat out says that Flynn only won a temporary peace, however seeing as Flynn was resurrected once already to reestablish peace it's safe to assume that during the next conflict he'll return anew. The world is not absolute, one force cannot rule over another.
Isabeau got everyone in Mikado to move to Tokyo knowing it'll be destroyed once Masakado awakens so they'll no longer live under the absolute order of the angels and YHVH
That's why its cool in the Law route, because all of the 4 friends die in the end, sacrificing themselves for his/hers beliefs. It's definitely more climatic.
Well, in Devil Survivor, Remiel and the angels seem much more bro like and will even help you in neutral routes. Lucifer in this game seems less charismatic then in previous titles and doesn't seem to like you unless you go with him. But you are right in aspect of previous games, he usually is a bit more forgiving for neutral paths and characters than God does.
It's not wrong really, personally I too think that the endings could have showed us more stuff... but maybe it's for the best, since that leaves open room for my fantasies of my character marrying Isabeau you know? and other stuff like that xD anyways, like you said, it was a great ride. One I hopefully will experience soon too lol :P
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"...Anyway, congratulations on completing the quest" - this Burroughs quote was more rewarding than I expected.
And so, for the first time in the series, the game actually has a goddess BEING REVIVED. Thanks Atlus. For EVERYTHING.
Xalsunwolf not really. The original megami tensei games were all about the reincarnation of a goddess
@@thatonestormtrooper2760 exactly their point.
"Shin Megami Tensei" can be translated to "Rebirth of the goddess", after all.
Hence the demon race, "Megami" or, goddess.
I know I'm 2 years late with this reply.
Congratulations Atlus on completing the Quest
@@applejuicemessiah4590 the other guy knows, he's saying that smt iv is not the first megaten game that actually have a goddess being revived/rebirthed
you need to play more games in this series if you think this shit ain't happen before
*everyone circles around Flynn*
Isabeau: Congratulations on completing the Quest
Fugiwara: Congratulations on completing the Quest
Skins: Congratulations on completing the Quest
Hugo: Congratulations on completing the Quest
K: Congratulations on completing the Quest
Burroughs: Congratulations on completing the Quest
Masakado: Congratulations on completing the Quest
Izanami: Congratulations on completing the Quest
Flynn: Thank you all...
See you soon, Johnathan.
See you Soon, Walter.
And to all the Samurai and Hunters: Congratulations on completing the Quest (I'm sorry, I had to)
Spirit of Johnathan: Congratulations on completing the quest
Spirit of Walter: Congratulations on completing the quest.
Spirit of Johnathan: May we see each other again...
Spirit of Walter: ...Some other time.
*Sometimes later*
Flynn: Oyie Akira! You sure about this?
???: Yeah...I'm sure everything will be alright.
(To Be Continued)
Is this a motherf*ing Evangelion reference?
Omedeto
(ClappingEvangelion.mp4 go here)
Is this a Evangelion reference?
The game even treats neutral as if it's the best ending.
Too bad it is so damn hard to get. :/
Cpt Sackboy it’s not THAT hard
Neutral endings always had the best outcomes in every SMT
All you do in neutral is postpone the conflict between law and chaos. The game was quite clear about that.
@@BiggusWeeabus That's not the case with Devil Survivor. In those games the best outcome is chaos (Naoya good) imo. Not only do you restore the status quo you also eliminate the demons and get rid of god's influence over humanity for good. It's basically a neutral ending but better.
@@rohandatta7111 postpoining the judgment day is a great deal tho
This is probably the most cathartic ending in SMT history:
-Masakado's last warning.
-The way the Firmament shatters.
-Everybody in Tokyo staring at the sky again in awe.
I like how they actually showed one of the demons in the cutscenes (Kelpies).
The Kelpies were homies. I'm glad they popped up in the cutscene.
I bet they were doing Formation B at that moment
The girl that turns into a woman at 9:00 looks and sounds a lot like Burroughs, doesn¡t she?
She was the Goddess of Tokyo, according to STEPHEN. Thanks to Omega's efforts in reuniting Mikado and Tokyo, she has revived and returned to her true form. Also, STEPHEN said she created Burroughs based on a dead person, and since you were trying to revive a dead deaity in the Neutral route, then I assume Burroughs was a Goddess (THE Goddess) all along.
I cried manly tears for this ending.
nearly one year later and ppl are still liking this comment, lol
shows how much power that comment had
elijah gradel Or how powerful that ending and that route was.
Have another, because the ending is both happy and sad for the main character.
[Vitz!] I’m still liking
Honestly, when the rocks started falling I legit thought the Firmament was going to crumble and crush absolutely everyone, turning the Neutral Ending into just another Bad End in disguise. Given how SMT works, I wouldn't put that past it.
At least it's better than destroying the existence, Mikado or Tokyo
Guess you can say Flynn and Isabeau... RAISED THE ROOF
I just spent 50 hours of my life trying to get this path... and I failed by just two or so alignment points. Oof...
The most relatable comment.
so borroughs is the true rebirthed goddess if im not wrong ....
maybe the true rebirthed goddess was the friends we made along the way
this
that is izanami...
Burroughs was the spirit of the gauntlet. The goddess of tokyo was a child for most of the game. Burroughs was not. Therefore Burroughs could not be the goddess.
More like the True Rebirthed Goddess IV™
2:57 But Masakado is right here with us.
Just got this ending. I absolutely love this game. And the fact apocalypse is announced to be released in under 3 months from now excites me.
the ending is aweome...i hoped it was longer though i mean.....after all the hell we been through to revive her we only get *thanks* real bummer man...
helios555 classical videogame for you
@@isekaitruck-kun8230 No, just... "Thank you, Flynn" or "Thank you, Samurai" would've been MILES better to read than just "thanc"
@@Yomiell idk, the casual thanks felt pretty good and fitting i felt.
Lmao lul thanks
Revive who?
Ah, neutrality. The ending I will always strive to get because to me its the right thing to do. Such a sweet ending, and well deserved.
same tbh, neutral endings almost always resonate with my personal beliefs the most.
I am always conflicted on neutrality. As while it is the best outcome of this game its in my opinion the worst outcome of strange journey.
Something I always wondered WHERE DOES MASAKADO GO AFTER THAT!?! IS HE JUST STANDING THERE WATCHING EVERYONE FOR THE REST OF ETERNITY
+shinjiro Hitsuguya He is guardian of tokyo.... so i guess so :p
What?
Oh my god I just looked it up and I'm already in love
Shinjiro Hitsuguya yep he is
He becomes the final boss for the DLC, still pretty disappointing that they didn't make him the final boss of the neutral route.
I was so hyped after seeing masakado's true form and going "WAIT, IS HE THE FINAL BOSS?! FUCK YEA" then the credits rolled passed and I'm like "wait wha-"
The ONLY game of the main series that ACTUALLY lives up to it's title! A first for once!
Is it just me, or did the neutral ending make Hugo suddenly likable?
Yeah, I felt the same. I like to think it's because we see that his interest in Tokyo was born from his own fascination for the culture; he never really hated the Unclean Ones, and the defeat of Merkabah made him realise that his authority meant nothing for his worth as a human being over the citizens of Mikado, or even Tokyo.
@@TheDavyStarAnimatons I think it has to do with that he was a sincere believer and his hatred for the unclean ones came from his belief. When his God was no more there was no reason for him to keep the zealous act and his likable side became apparent
Absolutely! I liked his development a lot, I really thought HE was the suspicious one the whole time. The NPCs in Mikado even tell you later on that he was just the messenger for Gabby
Masakado did not destroy the Firmament. Masakado destroys himself. He is the Firmament.
To me, the Neutral ending seems to be the best. I tried real hard to go neutral but ended up getting Law and that ending kind of sucked.
Isabeau is love~
Isabeau is life...
Isabeau is neutrality
No she isnt, i got the law ending by about two points i didnt count and during her fight she killed my babyboy jack frost in one hit so i melted her face of with megidolaon
Anyone who had a house in Mikado:
YO WTF
So let me get this straight... 4 endings, 3 partners, each representing a pathway for the main character to choose from... Law, Neutral, and Chaos. The 4th ending, the Bad Ending, need not require one...
Jonathan = Law, Walter = Chaos, Isabeau = Neutral.
FLYNN way of white
You could say that flynn would be the white seeing how he is more of a blanket for you to insert yourself into in this game
Isn't Issachar the one representing the white?
The white= bad ending \ Nothingness
*on the way to congratulating Flynn and Isabae*
Fujiwara: They really returned the sun to Tokyo, I dont think ill be able to thank them enough.
Skins: Yeah thats all well and good but how about THAT ABYSSAL TERROR LOOMIN OVER TOKYO
That's Masakado, he's chill.
Masakado vibin
Yup. It's implied that Stephen designed Burroghs as a copy of the Goddess and then programmed her into the Demonica Gauntlets to gather data. 25 years ago a man sided with neither the Angels or Demons and defended Tokyo from utter destruction. Then the man was reincarnated as Flynn and Burroughs watched him make the same choices, and stand neutral. So Stephen chose him to be the one to revive the Goddess.
And on this day, Cthulu saved the world.
Great ending. Omega gets the girl, people are united what can possibly go....
*see what spawns in the middle of tokyo*
Ah F....
Neutral route is so awesome. So many great moments, and Isabeau's alive!
How wonderful :)
One of the most hope-inspiring video game endings I've seen in a long time.
Researching wine, nice to see you've got priorities figured out Hugo. And Masakado is truly huge. Love that. XD
The developers of SMT favor the neutral ending in all their games. That's why they make players work hard to earn it. The message I got here is tear down the wall that separates one another lest we wish to live isolated in the dark and close off our fellow man from the light.
Thanks for yet another great run of a great 3DS RPG, Omega. I can't wait to start Xillia next week myself.
>And then, after saving the world and giving new hope to mankind, you spent a looong time doing Isabeau, while it was dawning on a reborned Tokyo...
I can see Isabeau initiating this...
Nice.
And suddenly SMT IV became Persona
@@Windermed smt4a
I got this Ending!
On First try!
Now I'll go for Chaos, on Hard Difficulty.
2) The Chaos and Law endings have the angels or the demons under their will, but in the neutral route, Omega defies them both to create his world, a world where both believers of Heaven and Hell will merge so that the sky barriers that enforced them in will be shattered like the Britain Wall, where in the other endings, the barrier remains untouched, therefore is not the "true" ending, even though he is hailed as hero in killing Lucifer or live in a chaotic world with Merkerbah's death.
Flynn on Neutral also seemed to be reviving and helping Gods/Goddesses left and right as well too on top of the reviving the Goddess of Tokyo.
Magic 450, and I thought my 250 strength was exaggerated.
Thank you very much omega, I had lots of problems trying to take the neutral way because I played with my heart... But I realized this is a good ending too, ;D
i always like getting the neutral ending when playing megaten games bec it always makes me feel i'm choosing my own path or belief instead of choosing obvious paths given by others( i.e lucifer's chaos,yhvh's order, which have both negative outcomes for me, anarchy or slavery ), and besides you get to pawn both demons and angels at the same time, now that's awesome..
Except in Nocturne's TDE... The characters were complete pricks..
Besides, Getting to fight a planet-sized Lucifer as the final superboss(with 65535hp, the peak value of the int number system) is fun(tedious/mind breaking on higher diff)
Thanks again, Omega, for blazing through this in your spare time. Take care.
Never got into the tedious work of getting the Neutral ending, but I'd like to thank you for doing all these videos, so I could see them for myself, even though I didn't get to experience it firsthand...
And I'm not the only one who thinks the endgame credit music seems somehow extremely fitting and loves it, right?
Certainly seems like the best ending. I completed the Law ending...kinda bittersweet XD
Many years after doing that ending and I realize that not even this ending is 100% happy.
Flynn still had to destroy his entire 1500 years old culture and homeland, part of Tokyo (you saw those huge rocks falling, don't tell me nobody or nothing got hurt with that shit) and move his people to an entirely foreign country bringing up problems this kind of mass migration. The fact that they brought their people to Tokyo might help preserving a bit of their culture, but almost all of the landmarks, places and documents are completely destroyed now.
And all that not considering the fact that, once again in the series, you had to kill your friends. They sorta killed themselves before that, sure, but you would still feel bad for killing those eldritch abominations knowing that part of them used to be your friends.
Also you're reminded by both of the eldritch abominations that no matter what you do they will come back regardless due to how that universe works.There will always those yearning for the things those demons and angels wanted and they will come back to answer to those desires.
This ending maybe fulfilling, but when you start looking at what was lost to achieve this and the other caveats you start realize the true nature of this pyrrhic victory. This ending is kind of fucked up.
yeah, I agree, personally this ending is better than both apocalypse's endings because they were either too sweet, because all your friends and Mikado survive
or too ambiguous when it's not being dry
like killing all your friends and every named human and reducing everything the player worked for in IV to ash leaving nothing behind of the old universe to make a new one that is largely ambiguous
this ending has clear ups and downs
downs because of what you said and ups because now humanity is free from demons for the time being
[Vitz!] also was it ever explained what happens to all the demons in Tokyo?
Smt has always ludicrous endings, I'll take this over lawshit anyday
I was thinking Mikado was just like 25 years old
tbh i like the anarchy ending in apocalypse than this
That's because she IS the Goddess of Tokyo. Or rather, they have a similar connection like Cortana and Doctor Halsey.
Heh. Hugo's not so bad in this ending.
Right, now to continue my blaspheming.
Thank you for releasing this. My cartridge is fucked up and just… won’t play the two cutscenes where Masakado takes off the roof… ;-; it crashes EVERY TIME.
I got this ending on my second try (first was law) . Great game and nice ending .
Thanks for the videos again Omega :) Now i just have to wait for the UK release like i did with Fire Emblem Awakening D:
True Demon Ending was a reset of sorts. Like in SMT2's chaos ending. You've tore it all down so it can start anew.
Well, after beating the Chaos route is nice to see a happy ending for Isabeau, the most heartbreaking part of any of the paths is seeing how basically only Flynn remains of the 4 friends, 2 of the msacrifice themselves for their goals and Isabeau kills herself to prevent getting killed by one of her friends.
I think so too, as Burroughs is most likely modeled in her image (by Stephen perhaps?).
Amazing!
That hypotheses runs into trouble with the True Demon Ending, since that end sees the complete destruction of all creation.
Nobody Asks about all the people who died crushed by the remains of masakado?
Actually due to the actions of the MC and Issabeau, the people do indeed learn, thus they live in peace together. Plus, what's an SMT game without Lucifer.
When the goddess revives
Down the line most likely as she is impressed with Flynn very early in the game and drops many hints that she has fallen for him. Her words on Chaos/Law merely cement that she wanted to walk the same path as Flynn. Luckily she can on Neutral and gets her happy ending with him.
I love this game I have beaten this game like 10 times the story to me is wonderful and it made me feel connections :) but now I don't have my 3ds anymore I can't play it :(
Same :(
I feel that. Luckily I completed SMT IV neutral path before my 3ds got killed by my kids' bubble mixture bath. Probs going to emulate apocalypse to check it out but I'll miss how the game 'feels' on its original hardware.
Thanks Omega.
lol yeah Hugo. I loved his sudden interest to wine thought He made me smile so it can't be that bad(I guess).
They are. Burroughs is based off the Goddess of Tokyo and was sent out to find the reincarnated Hero, who followed the same path as the past Hero(Past Flynn), to revive the Goddess of Tokyo and to return balance.
That goddess
Good work my little human.
Thanks for your hardwork, Omega! ... I wonder why the goddess didn't tell you your grand quest was complete?
While the thing covering the world is being removed, did everybody else in the world went wtf is going on?
Everybody else got nuked
There's a few methods to encounter the fiends semi-quickly... I've run into four of them so far myself. But yeah, it takes a lot of reloading, and a little bit of luck.
Will you get a video of the other NG+ bosses such as Azazel and Mastema? I do believe Mother Harlot is one as well, but I've yet to do NG+ Chaos to find her.
That too. We can all choose to interpret the neutral ending's in many ways. : )
You've defeated both demons and angels alike, and have restored Tokyo to it's former splendor.....k thx!
its hard to get the ending i screwed because i was to strong i like this ending the best i spent 100 hours on this game so im gladthis was uploaded
just in time. i finished the neutral final boss video
I/m guessing the lesson is the best thing to is never the easy thing and the dangers of absolutes
Chaos by nature will incite a world of war. But if you watch the law ending, not only does Jonathan show you what DOES happen in the future, but the very last text says that all evil was ousted, that peace will last for eternity with a world full of innocents, and as it says, the world "God yearned to see". Besides, the last quest in the law route is called " the peace that lasts unto eternity".
Hope? Yes, because having to, as you say, defend yourself is a very hopeful future indeed. Yes, I bet they cant wait for the another armageddon war in the future between the armies of law and chaos. See, here is what I like about characters of law and even chaos. They have ALREADY confronted the world for what it is and CHOOSE to do SOMETHING about it. Instead of ignoring the issue, they want to conclude it. Eventually, either Law or Chaos will reign supreme.
Nah, that's just how big Masakado really is. :D
are you gonna do a full walkthrough like graces or only bosses and important stuff?
In Devil Survivor yes the Law faction is okay with neutral but Metatron still says in the neutral endings that if the main character misuses his power that God and the angels will smite him down.
I got the neutral ending but the girl didn't appear, why is that? Are there more conditions?
I love Lilith and her Ring of Gaea (I even like their beliefs), so I hope people are still given the option to join the Ring of Gaea if they want. However their philosophy is pretty much the chaotic faction.
I think it's the little girl you encounter before you meet Stephen.
they explain it throughout the game but I think she's supposed to be like a goddess or something.. I just got to Tokyo in my game..
They only exist as long as at least one person believes in them. SO if no one existed to believe in them, they'd cease to be. Or at the very least be drained of all their power, and be the only two beings left in existence.
If you ever do another Law playthrough I'd certainly love to see you punch Mastema in the face.
I'm at the choice between the law and chaos path if I choose any of those can I go back to the normal path in the future?
Neutral really could be seen as the best ending. Why? Because humanity has hope. In the Law and Chaos endings Humanity lacks an actual driving force, being controlled by either God or Lucifer. In the Neutral Ending humanity is forced to stand on it's own feet and confront the world for what it is. And the people of Mikado aren't insects, they'll be able to defend themselves.
Hugo? Being Good and Enthusiastic? About something OTHER than God? MADNESS!
Yeah.... definitely like this ending a lot more. Isabeau is alive, Hope is restored, and everything good with the world (for now)
Now, I'm curious what the Protag and Isabeau will do now after all this craziness. Have a family perhaps? Would be nice.
"hey uh you sure you good on magic you got 445 points"
"hmmm, you're right burroughs, thanks"
*increases to 450 at the end of the game*
But those falling rocks surely killed people right?
The Goddess of Tokyo.
Anyone here think that K resembles Jeff Bridges? I do. ':D
Closer to Kurt Russell as Snake Plissken, i think. ^^
Yeah. They didn't know it was happening or that it could ever happen.
To be fair you kinda revive Black Maria and you help in the making of the next Lady Danu.
Yes, because destroying Lucifer and Merkebah, becoming an Icon the people in Tokyo can rally behind, and uniting two peoples as one is "ignoring the issue". Masakado flat out says that Flynn only won a temporary peace, however seeing as Flynn was resurrected once already to reestablish peace it's safe to assume that during the next conflict he'll return anew. The world is not absolute, one force cannot rule over another.
Maybe a dumb question but what happened to everyone in Mikado, living atop the bedrock?
Isabeau got everyone in Mikado to move to Tokyo knowing it'll be destroyed once Masakado awakens so they'll no longer live under the absolute order of the angels and YHVH
That's why its cool in the Law route, because all of the 4 friends die in the end, sacrificing themselves for his/hers beliefs. It's definitely more climatic.
Well, in Devil Survivor, Remiel and the angels seem much more bro like and will even help you in neutral routes. Lucifer in this game seems less charismatic then in previous titles and doesn't seem to like you unless you go with him. But you are right in aspect of previous games, he usually is a bit more forgiving for neutral paths and characters than God does.
Gendo Ikari: "I approve of this."
Even though the neutral ending is cannon, in the next game your MC wil be a chaos hero. I wonder how he will appear in the next game.
It's not wrong really, personally I too think that the endings could have showed us more stuff... but maybe it's for the best, since that leaves open room for my fantasies of my character marrying Isabeau you know? and other stuff like that xD anyways, like you said, it was a great ride. One I hopefully will experience soon too lol :P
Then you should know my "hypotheses" was based off the actual lore. SMT IV supports the multiverse concept.
It's good in that everything is stable for now. But humanity repeats itself and they'll all be in another terrible position later.
at 1st i thought wtf he is gonna fuck everyone up HOLY SHIT
@venus thus making the next installment to be great because it a contuation of this one