OMEGA / GRAND SEIKO Costly Lesson
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2023
- I sold my Omega Aqua Terra to part fund the purchase of this Grand Seiko SBGA407
It's a costly lesson that I wont forget in a hurry
Have you ever let go of a watch that you regret?..if so feel free to share in the comments...
thanks for watching
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Grand Seiko spring drive automatic move is just on another level
Regular seikos seem to be exactly the same quality
This is why I have 11 watches. I've talked about selling, but I haven't been able to bring myself to do it. I don't mind letting a watch sit for a couple of months and then rediscovering it.
This why I have 36 watches! 😂 My collection dates back to 1974 and consist of affordable watches, apart from my grail (Heuer Autavia). I can sell some of my original purchases at a significant profit as I have kept boxes and papers for all, but it never crosses my mind. I now rarely add new pieces to my collection as I enjoy my oldies. 😊 Having said that, I don’t have anything to match any of Pete’s eight watches!
This is why I have 50 watches
You’re probably going to lose money on most watches so just keep it. I’m at 40 right now. Love all of them
@@ItBetterBeFast Very true; but if you hang on to them long enough, they actually seem to gain some value over the long term. For example, I bought two Seiko 6149 chronos, one in 1972 and another in 1974. They cost me less than a $100, and now probably would sell for $800 as I still have original boxes and papers. The same would go for my LordMatic, King Seiko, 6306 Turtle, etc. This is all hypothetical because, as I said, I won’t sell them as they are magnificent timepieces…. but my kids might one day. 😊
I’ve regretted every watch I’ve sold. I’m at 11 and will sell no more. No matter what.
If you're thinking of parting with a piece, try putting it in the box and storing it out of sight first for at least 1 month. If you have withdrawal symptoms for it, it's a mistake to get rid of it.
Good tip
That GS is so smooth, the way the seconds hand move from 1 second to the next, it just glides and fly instead of ticking and stopping every second
spring drive baby
the omega with the green strap - beautiful
Takes character and strength to admit a mistake and act accordingly. And also to admit it publicly. Omega also grew unto my heart. They make great quality watches.
Great advice, hats off to your openness letting us know your error. We all make mistakes, the secret is to learn from them. Which you quickly rectified, albeit with a financial penalty. Enjoy that great collection.
Excellent story. I love how you are disciplined enough to limit your collection. You are able satisfy your thirst for something new and different but manage the budget. Quite smart, something I could learn from. I think you also are able to manage this by using so many different straps, giving each watch a unique look. Love the options you choose. That brown leather strap looks amazing on the AT. Enjoy the GS and can’t wait to see your reviews on that piece.
I just took the plunge and i am awaiting delivery of a brand new Grand Seiko Shunbun. It took years of quiet deliberation and contemplation. When i put it on my wrist i knew it was the watch for me. My next is the new diver from grand seiko. No other brand speaks to me as much as Grand Seiko.
Don't ever get rid of that Grand Seiko.
Mate. Great story telling. Love the down to earth honesty and life lessons you impart. Like the older friend I never had.
Keep up the good work champ
Made this mistake far too many times! Another lesson I learnt is to slow down the pace, I'm always on the hunt for the next watch, if I don't have enough fund, I'd just get a cheaper alternative. This has wasted so much of my many, and instead of getting what I really want, I end up settling on cheaper alternatives cuz I'm impatient and the instant gratification really gets to me. Now I keep the watches, give every purchase a meaning (so I'm wayyyy less likely to get rid of them on a whim and regret), and slow down my purchases and save up for the one I really like!
Heartfelt honest comments and thanks for this. It has not happened with watches yet, I tend to keep hold of them - I am over-sentimental about them! Two great watches with the GS and Omega by the way - both surefire keepers!
Those are both great. I love how you can see the reflections in the GS as you move. The Omega is looking sharp. Both are definitely keepers.
this video changed my mind about aqua terra. it's on my short list now
Videos like this are what make this channel my favorite watch channel. When I first started out I invested way too heavily into fashion brands. I definitely learned a thing or 2 from how
I want to frame my collection.
Hi Peter, I totally understand your message. It goes with the territory and is part of the joy of this hobby.
I think we all have similar stories to this. Thanks for sharing by the way! I’m having this exact problem right now. I only have 3-5 at one time. I bought a new watch that I thought I would fund with the sale of another. I don’t want to sell it because I love it, but that was the plan. I figure these two are too similar. For now I’m holding off, but I too like having watch collecting rules in place so that I don’t get carried away.
Thank you for this video. Not only you learnt a lesson, which is great, but you also made us think and learn, which I think has infinite value (you can't measure it ❤).
I'm starting my collection, I have like 9 watches, and in the beginning you want so many watches and you get easily influenced by everything, especially with social media...
I guess I have to calm down 😅😅
Great video. I really just started collecting watches this year so its great to learn important lessons as early as I can.
Thank you for this video, Peter. A tip of the hat for your honesty and humility there. I believe you hit the nail on the head by saying you acted intellectually and not emotionally. I've done that myself with the Orient Kamasu Green dial. I sold it at a loss because I "had to move up." Regretted it and bought another. It cost a bit, but the silver lining is I ended up with one running within COSC out of the box. I think the silver lining for you here is you know you have found one of those rare ideal watches that will be with you well into the future.
correct, well said 👍
One of your best and most heartfelt videos yet!
I'm happy you sorted this, Peter. I could feel your turmoil after the decision, which must have been frustrating as there were other options and they might have tainted your experience of the GS. Of course no one knows the exact state of your collection at any one point, but considering you had multiple if the same Sinns in the same small collection, I do think this decision makes more sense. It's a pity you lost some money in the process, but probably you know even better what you value about the pieces you own now. Moreover, as a viewer, I think you've made the case for Omega on so many occasions that it truly must suit you to have a champion watch like this in rotation. Enjoy!
FYI: The Skyflake works great with the Tudor BB58 Blue leather strap and deployant, I know the strap is 20mm v the 19mm GS strap but it fits no problem. I had this combo for the past year and a half and it really stands out.
We watch people are odd. Those watches basically look identical to anybody who isn't a watch nerd. Reminds me of the old Emo Philips comedian joke. He had a red and black jacket on and he says, getting kind of warm, let me take this off. He takes the jacket off and he has a thin sweater underneath with the exact same colors and pattern. It gets a laugh for him. I was basically just laughing at you for the same thing. Don't get me wrong, I love both watches and I get it but Imma watch nerd also. What a group we are... 😅
Appreciate the honest assessment. I think many of us have been there! All part of the journey.
Thanks for sharing, that was deep ! A grand Seiko is my dream watch but in the end it is about what you love
It's such a bad feeling when you come around to realizing you let a watch go that you really loved because you thought you needed to experience something else. I'm living that right now and might re-purchase one of them.
My lesson learnt is..take your time with decisions 👍
The GS movement and dial are stunning.
Costly mistakes are part of life but you've got it back. You can't put a $$$ value on happiness. Great story thanks for sharing
I wear watches for myself. Not for others. However, I will admit that it feels real good to get a compliment on my watch. It sort of gives me confirmation this watch is right for me. There are about 4 watches in my collection that constantly receive good comments from strangers. Congrats on getting your Omega back. I have 5 or 6 Omegas in my collection. I would hate to lose any of them.
Wow, I love the look of the Omega. It seems to tick all the boxes for a dressy sports watch. It does sound like a costly mistake but at least you have the watch you love back again plus a sensational GS. Fortunately my two watch regrets were with much cheaper Seikos. The first with a stunning, discontinued, green-sunburst dial kinetic which I gave to my sister which she adores. I now get watch envy every time I see her. Secondly a metal bracelet version of the ubiquitous Seiko SNK809 which I gave to my friend. Fortunately it was only £90 to buy another one - huge difference to your costly faux pas!
They're both gorgeous
Two gorgeous pieces
I have made the exact same mistake a couple months back by selling my green Willard. I still don't know why I rushed into selling that watch, luckily I had some rational thought left in me by keeping the OEM Seiko steel bracelet that I have been using it with and only sold the watch with the original rubber strap. That watch meant so much to me that it felt like it left a void as soon as I sold it. Long and behold I bought the exact same model when I was in Japan last month and fitted the steel bracelet that I still kept for it.
It was a costly mistake but I now feel whole again - safe to say I have found my forever watch.
I just bought the 75th anniversary Aqua Terra (the 41mm). My first serious watch and I love it! The blue dial does have a bit of a GS vibe, so I won’t suffer the same conflict you did 😂
i got the orient star limited edition and boy does it make me feel privileged by wearing it, i love it
Glad to see you got your AT back, don't knock yourself out mate we all make decisions in life we come to regret some more consequential!. Kudos to you for sticking to the 8 watch rule you have imposed on yourself, shows integrity and willpower. I couldn't do it myself I'm a notorious horder of various collections been that way since childhood and I've accepted that 😂.
Keep enjoying your collections and keep up the excellent contents.
I wish I had been able to quit at 8 watches.
I was shocked when you sold the AT. Glad to see it back. We’ve all been there!
Having a maximum number of watches on your watch collection can be a good thing. However, on a non related topic, I was given the advice that when you want to upgrade your gear, it is a good idea to make sure the upgrade is really an upgrade. Or in this case, buy the new watch and after trying it, decide if is a good substitute for the one you had decided to swap it, or if you'd rather change it for another of your watches, or if you're selling the new one and keeping your old collection.
In hindsight it's easyer to see, but maybe a new rule could be 8 in the collection plus one on "probation" while you decide which are the 8 keepers.
By the way, the aquaterra is a very nice watch, just out of my price league. I'm glad you could manage to keep owning one, as it seems to be a watch you wear and enjoy.
I really like that probation idea!
I have a 2 Year Rule - anything I buy I must keep for 2 years before flipping. It forces me to think about the watch long-term, rather than just the short-term 'that's cool, I need that' hit.
@@duncanhamilton5841 I'll have to add that rule. Very sensible. 👍
Gorgeous watches both, but as an avid bird watcher, the real star of this video for me is those Leica binoculars!🤣🥰🤣It seems like it was your destiny to own both the Omega AND the GS, Peter! You just had to take the "scenic drive" route to eventually getting to your inevitable destination! Great video!!
Hahaha, beautifully said.
PS those binoculars are indeed the star of the show..love the old school look through them 👍
Both of them are great, but the Omega is a thing of beauty, and arguably more practical than the Grand Seiko.
I have nearly 50 watches in my budget collection, and there are probably 3 or 4 pieces that leave me thinking "WHY???".
Thing is, I'm still a struggling videographer, but I've been a teacher for over 30 years, so I know that you have to stuff up occasionally - otherwise you're not learning, and what's the good of that?
Thank you this learning/teaching moment, Peter. Cheers 🍻!
@@PeterKotsa swarovski bins any day !
@@brendanroberts4866 Swarovski are the definition of perfection..Ive got a pair of 8x30 Habicht and just sold my 12x50 SV
@@PeterKotsa yes - I have some high end 10x30 - the name escapes me - but they are lovely.
Great vid, thanks for sharing Pete!
I've tried on that exact white dial AT a few times now, and it's seemingly a perfect watch. My only minor complaint, and one that makes me hesitate on the purchase, is the thickness or even more so the appearance of the thickness on the wrist. I think on paper it's not too much thicker than a Datejust, but the case sides of the Omega wear tall for the 38mm size. I just wish Omega would slim down their watches a bit. Finally, one Omega, the new Speedmaster, is thinner than the predecessor, and for a Chronograph, it actually wears fairly thin, a bit more than the last generation. It's noticeable on the wrist. Other than thickness, I absolutely love the 38mm white AT. It looks so good.
Pete you are killing me here… I want this and every-time I watch your videos on it I want it more!!! I have more than enough watches but I keep thinking about this one and I now must have it :)
I don’t sell watches, not even the ones I don’t wear, probably something wrong with me 😮
Same!
If you don't need the money
Know that feel bro.. Few years ago I sold Seiko Alpinist. Reunion after al these years feeeels good.
Thanks. Haven’t sold any of mine, but considering letting go of my Planet Ocean and Santos.
THANKS FOR THE HONESTY! JUST STAY TRUTHFUL! You will never go wrong with that. Thanks. A few weeks back.... with answering me directly with a watch strap question I had.
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I've been collecting watches for the past 10 years and have watches ranging from Cartiers, Omegas and Rolex to Tissots. My absolute favourite watch is the one that made me fall in love with watches, the 1930s Mickey Mouse Watch from the Chicago World Trade Fair. I finally found it in good working condition and I wear it constantly. Watches are ultimately pointless, a £10 Casio is going to be more accurate than the fancy Cartier but that's the beauty of Watches, they make you feel happy and we can admire their beauty. I'm planning on getting into a Spring Drive Grand Seiko later this year and genuinely cannot wait!
you've given good advice, good video.
totally agree, done it many times! I also do the same with Motorcycles 🤔 😂 Great video as ever!
Two of the best watches ever made ❤ , then the speed master 😅
Honestly, that GS is amazing.
Really good point about emotional vs logical decisions. Hobbies are very emotional - it isn't typically about logic...
I admire your self control, i would have bought A larger watch box.
😊😂
I sold a "grail watch" of mine (solid yellow gold chronoswiss Opus) to fund a 41mm Rolex Wimbledon 2tone rose/jubilee/fluted.
I dont regret the swap, but im pretty sure i will buy another Opus on leather strap not too far down the way. Its BEAUTIFUL. Its the absokute perfect dress watch and conversation piece. Try wearing one to a wedding or formal gala.
That omega is sooo classy. But oh my goodness the GS has a drop dead gorgeous blue dial. I need it 😢
…the Grand Seiko is beautiful! But you should never get rid of anything you love… Maybe you should consider having one watch in your collection?
a very nice macro video, even generic straps but looks fine for me
Everytime I see a video from you with the Omega I am so tempted to buy one for myself … damn 😂
the spring drive is marvelous ! can't blame you for getting it :D the omega is classy and versatile too. the biggest mistake is to get into this watch hobby =))))
😂👍
oh yes, a big interest in watches is fatal, but comes in my side from alone, since a young boy to man
Exact same story here, but mine Aqua Terra has a blue dial. The new owner left my house and I regretted it instantly. 3 months later and a 600 euro surcharge and I had the AT back in the collection. Lessons learnt 😅
That seamaster is my grail. Gorgeous.
This Omega is a very nice watch. Never let it go again. Next time, keep a pre-loved watch for 2 years before you decide I really want to let it go!
That GS is really great !
I did the same thing with a Grand Seiko SBGA493!
Most important, you are happy again and always there is a lesson to learn. Watches are impulsive buys with emotional results. Im still looking for my next purchase if there is one waiting for me......
Two of my dream watches ❤
Did the same mistake 4 times, with a Cocktail Time, a PADI, an I.N.O.X and a Colt and bought them again later!
Did it with other watches, but didn't buy them again.
Now I try to reduce my collection piece after piece, and being really careful about my choices, when I buy but also when I sell.
I’ve got an 8 watch collection. Two of them get all the wrist time. Those two happen to be on another level relative to the other six, but they are good watches that sit. I like the Sinn 556. Those colors are indeed playful, but they’d mostly sit relative to a more versatile dial color of the same model.
That GS is quite beautiful, I love what they represent, there’s a handful of their watches I’ve come very close to owning, there’s typically some hurdle - it could be a chunky case or exclusive model to some other region of the world. That example is a beautiful GS, but the AT truly has its own thing going for it, plenty of virtues.
Those Sinns would have been a no brainer to move along. As much as I like the 556, I don’t think it would warrant much wear with the AT nearby.
I love that GS, the omega is cool.
What a banger. I only wear Nato or Stainless. But mostty Nato especially elastic. But that Skyflake on the sailcloth is so versatile. I can't make up my mind so many incredible options with Grand Seiko. I'm on the fence with the pink Shunbun, the green GMT Hi-Beat with the green ceramic bezel, the insanely eye-mugging blue peacock Hi-Beat, the white Birch, the bamboo GMT, the options are so good it makes deciding a real dilemma. This could easily turn into an addiction. I can't believe people are blowing north of $15k on sterile boring Submariners.
After 6 yesrs of procrastinating, i finally decided to sell off most of my watches. I started in Jan of 2020. It took almost 2.5 years, but i sold 200+ pieces. Now I keep it to 12 watches, no more, no less. One out, one in. Seems to be working! Cheers.
Did the same thing Peter. Sold my Aqua Terra 2503.50.00 and then days later you released that amazing video praising it. I knew that I had made a mistake then.... and two years later, it's back on my wrist. Your white omega would be a great pairing with my black dial. Let me know if you ever decide to sell! (I'm joking)....
But honestly, I really love your white dial and may pick one up some day.
I've learned my lesson. Don't sell what you love just because you want to try another watch.... keep the core pieces of your collection. 100% ❤
Love you Pete ❤ amazing to hear your thoughts on the topic
Love you straight back mate...ENJOY that special piece that's on your wrist, it looks great buddy 🔥
Thats why I own watch shop
the grand seiko second sweep is so much smoother
Pete, watched your last vid in horror. I couldn't believe what you had done. For me, as much as I love Grand Seiko I would never sell an Aqua Terra for one. It may not be quite as good technically as a GS but I do think aesthetically the AT is a bit special. Its such a handsome modern watch that can hold its own in any company. In my view the AT is the unsung hero in the Omega line up. Pure class. Enjoy your new AT. Any monetary pain will soon fade. 😀
Hey Mike, yeah it was a BRAIN fog decision thats for sure.
Technically I think both the GS and AT have amazing strengths.
The GS obviously with the incredible accuracy of spring drive (this one has been running perfect all month)
And the Omega with the George Daniels Co-Axial escapement and Metas..both excellent pieces but also very different and enjoyed in completely different ways for me 👍
i’m just reverse to you :) Omega doesn’t work for me, but Grans Seiko yes!
That Omega is a very nice watch, something I could wear daily too. Especially on the brown strap. It looks great. I'm not into GS much and don't like the power reserve indicator and the hands, but it's still a very nice watch. I would have sold the GS to rebuy the Omega! My biggest mistake was selling a Seiko Kinetic that I bought back in the early 90's, starting my first real job, back when I wore a suit. I realise now it was a bit of a milestone watch, but I flipped it when the job / style changed. Foolish young me. I've been chasing that model for ages on Chrono 24, but can never find one the same, or at least what my memory tells me it looked like. In all its steel and gold two tone glory!
I’ve never had to rebuy a watch, because I don’t let any go. Yes, the collection has exploded in the last year or so, but they’re ones that I like.
Peter, I have the same "buy one sell one policy" as you. I sold an SKX007K2 a while back and regretted it soon after. So, I started searching for a replacement SKX and luckily I found a clean J version for about the same price. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
A few of those for me..
1. I sold my Omega 2254.50 so I could buy the black dial co-axial SMP the year they came out (2008?). Not a fan of the open hands(and blue lume) on the newer ones. In fact, I like the sword hands so much I got a 50th anniversary GMT.
2. Seiko Pogue Chrono. At the time I was in "don't fall in love with your inventory" mode, so I sold it. Wish I had it back.
3. In 1990 a local jeweler friend of mine got me a new Rolex Datejust. He also had a "used" Rolex GMT with the black and red bezel. Asked me if I wanted it for only $700. I said no since I had just bought the Datejust for $3k. Again.. wish I had it now!!! lol
Life is pain. More so with a watch hobby.
Great video 👍 thank you for the heads up
No problem 👍
that white aqua terra is a strap monster !!!!
Springdrive to me is so much more attractive than whatever movement they put in grandcomplications
I love the blue snowflake ❄️
That Grand Seiko is still the better watch.
Both are really nice, and the omega suit you well, i think the white dial is easier to match with different outfits
Hey nice video. Which brown strap do you have on the omega in this vid?
Crazy i bought the ghost alpinist after seeing a video. A try at the airport got me into it 💯% . Thought of letting it go some months back but just can't do it. . It gives me a much more expensive watch ⌚ feel and it's a Seiko I fell in love with like no other yet. And it's a 38mm edc ...
The GS is beautifulllll!!
great lesson all around.
nice and honest. Its ok to own a couple of watches more and break some personal rules.
That's what I did for the VC patriomony, and I may well doing that for the Rolex YM and Kermit..
That's part of the journey. Unless you have an excessive amount of money, a new watch often comes at the cost of having to sell another one.
Both are great pieces! I try to get what speaks to me, but also try to keep to only 8 watches total 😊
The AT is a beautiful beautiful watch - and the FXD are my two grail
Omega IS the movement! Daniels... innovation in design and accuracy (METAS).
Great advise😊
I've put a bunch of watches in the "sell" pile. When I don't want to get them out of their boxes to wear for a month, then I know it was the right decision.
Peter,
I feel the same about my Aqua Terra. I have six watches (two Sinns, two Seiko divers, and fwo Omegas - an AT and a PO). Because I love all these watches, I don’t look at other watches as potential purchases. I have been married for 37 years and I still notice women who are not my wife but I do not look at them like they are potential spouses.
Nice..I like that 👍