Grand Seiko DESTROYED Rolex
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With Spring Drive, Grand Seiko stands alone as the only watchmaker capable of showing the moments between the moments.
Cute
Bulova has a similar movement as well, although those watches don’t look that classy.
Moments between the moments! I love that!
@@sushivision lol what ? Bulovas runs on battery right ?
@@trumptookthevaccine1679 oooh snarky, say something useful instead of spewing sounds
You buy a Rolex to impress others. I buy a Grand Seiko to impress myself.
100% I smile when I see people with the bought to impress Rolexes, Panerai, etc.
As someone who owns an Omega, Rolex, Cartier, and Grand Seiko, I can confirm that GS is a notch above the rest in terms of overall quality and value.
They can also be water resistant as well
Except for their bracelets. Those look like shit
@@jez443 Never heard someone say the bracelets look like shit, I love mine. The lack of micro adjust is valid complaint but looks? Idk
@@yamkaw346 They look good. But they are cheaper when compared to other bracelets. I almost immediately replaced my bracelet with a good quality gator strap.
Thanks to this channel, I bought a Grand Seiko to add to my collection. For reference, I started with Casios and then Seikos. Few years ago I went and got an Oyster Perpetual 36. Great looking bit of kit. Had the opportunity to buy an Explorer 1 and did so and I love them both. I had the opportunity to get a GS SBGR073. Modest 9S65 movement, no spring drive or high beat. One at beats at the same rate as the calibres in my Rolexes. I got it for less than £2K. A bargain in a sense. It's my favourite watch. The finishing on the hands, indices and case is just sublime. The decoration on the movement is impeccable. Buying it made me feel I got ripped off when buying the Rolexes and in essence, I was. Because the GS just beats Rolex in everything but brand recognition. You buy a Rolex to impress others but you buy an Grand Seiko to impress yourself.
now just affix one of your Rolex bracelets to your Seiko and you have a proper wristwatch with out the tinny bracelet
@@misterpsych3804 Well said that man.
Although you forgot to say it might actually fit one’s wrist too!
@sdaafasfad So you are saying you bought two Rolex’s to impress people, and have never tried to impress anyone with your GS …… except here of course 🙄
Omega and now GS fanboys cannot stop droning on about how great they think they and their watches are, but the reality is they just have a huge chip on their shoulders.
@@alfieakaronaldog come on man. I've got omegas in the collection, an aqua terra. I've got tudors. Variety is the spice of life of course. I'm merely stating that the finishing on the GS's are far superior to watches that cost me substantially more. Not saying I don't like Rolexes, I've actually got my OP36 on today, I love it. Merely stating that the finishing on the GS is far superior to that on my rolex. It sounds as though you're the one with the chip on your shoulder. Relax a bit. No need to get so upset 😂
@@sdaafasfadI love all of my 20 Casio’s!🤣👍🏼 But I do have a few upmarket watches too.😉🤫
As a Rolex owner, I was DESTROYED by this video.
*_Hardly...._*
Only if you paid attention
Thank you Andrew for this video, highlighting what special about GS. Sorry, bit of a long story here, but I purchased the GS SBGR 309 last year as a way to remember a friend who had passed in 2021. He was an ultra hard core Japanese guy who was incredibly proud of Japanese products (and heritage),and always talked about buying a GS someday. Not knowing anything about the brand (or watches), I listened to him ramble on about the GS quality of movement and the finish. When he passed, I promised his wife I’ll buy one someday as a way to remember him. So, two years after his death and had saved up enough money to buy one, I decided to go with the 309 in 42mm…large, I know. I was not expecting the watch to be this amazing! Good Lord, the mirrored finish of the case, the razor-like hands & indices were like freaking diamonds when light reflected off it! The ink-like finish of the black dial was like the finish on a grand piano. Let me not forget the glorious auto movement under that see through caseback! Everything was absolutely done to perfection! The photos online and CZcams videos I studied prior to the purchase gives Grand Seiko no justice! It’s a completely different watch in person! My friend wasn’t kidding about the quality of GS. Rest in peace my friend❤👏🏼
Sorry you lost your friend, but glad you have something as special as asGS to remember him by,.
I agree totally with the narrator comment that you buy a Rolex to impress someone else but a GS to impress yourself...and the memory of a good friend
@@ChrisJones-ki2bx Brilliant comment 👏
may your friend rest in peace and may you wear your gs in good health!
great story, thanks for sharing
With a piece of jewelry, which is a luxury watch, it is not about
the 'best', but it's about which one you like best.
Happened to purchase my first GS today (413) and it certainly wont be my last. I'm relatively new to the world of watches and this was my first big purchase, my reasons are pretty straight forward:
1. It looks wonderful
2. I'm a sucker for a smooth sweep
3. I love titanium
4. I think the Spring Drive is a mechanical marvel bordering on witchcraft
Congrats on the purchase and enjoy the journey.
I love how that watch changes how it looks in different lights without drawing other people's attention to it.
I own one too. It was my grail and it's a stunning watch
same as you!
Evolution 9
I'm always mesmerized by macro shots of that spring drive sweep. You guys should have an Oscar for pioneering that cinematography.
The second hand sweep powered by Spring Drive is pure sex.
lmfao get an oscar righto
Rolex movements are that good they hide them.
Nice to see this the day i just bought my first grand seiko, the omiwatari.
Congrats
Nice that is one beautiful timepiece
I wanted a Rolex for my first luxury watch, but they wouldn’t sell me one. I walked into the GS Boutique across the road and walked out with an SBGJ249. I love it. I love the fact that I know it’s superior in almost every way, and no one else does. It’s like a secret no one else is in on. And best of all, it’s beautiful. I catch myself just staring at it. GS for me.
I completely agree with the "secret no one else is on" part. I have the SBGM221 and nobody knows what it's worth, in terms of money but more so in terms of horology and attention to detail. I live in a rather small city in France and I think we might be only 2 people here wearing one in secret. We know each other and we like being in such a small vip group ! The conversations around a GS (for those who can spot one) are far more interesting than small talk over Rolexes. Plus, no one asks you if it's a real one.
Same here....
You have a way better watch now as a Rolly
Keep telling yourself that….
@@swingger9674 jealous?
I stopped in a Rolex AD to buy the new Air king. I left with my name on a list. Then I stopped in the closet Grand Seiko AD and walk out with a new SBGA415 "Winter" Spring Drive. I had choices between the SBGA 211"Snowflake", the 413 "Shunbun" and the 415. All 3 were in inventory. The Titanium case and the Blue second hand of the 415 won me over.
I own a GS Omiwatari and quarts 37m SBGX261 and love them both. Recently I saw the SBGY009 in person and was blown away. The indices actually scattered the light like a rainbow! I am in the process of trying to save up for a Toge version of the GMT... you really could buy a complete collection of GS and have an awesome variety to choose from... spring drive, quartz, hi-beat, and more... truly a unique company.
Each time I wear my SBGE257, I spend an inordinate amount of time just LOOKING at it. The perfection of design and execution makes my Datejust look almost primitive. I'm SO glad that I went for my GS. Spring drive? The icing on the cake...
Mind blowing. I have one Grand Seiko with an exquisite dial.But the ones you selected are just the finest pieces of art.
I was at a jeweler last week and there was a display case full of GS: the details are mindblowingly eye watering and were putting IWC and Rolex on the other display cases at a shame!
I must say that the Grand Seiko is an exemplar of perfection that truly captivates my senses. The intricate movements, the artistry of its craftsmanship, and the delicate yet dazzling snow dial that emulates the ethereal beauty of ice and snow are a testament to the expertise of its makers. The impressive 8 day power reserve and the understated elegance of its minimalistic design further enhance its allure. As a connoisseur of fine timepieces, I cannot help but admire the exquisite beauty of the Grand Seiko and appreciate the artistry that went into its creation.
There are some fantastic Grand Seiko’s,
watchmaking at its best.
What I really miss in their line-up is a Rolex Explorer and Omega Aqua Terra competitor, small (max. 37 mm), water resistant up to 100/150 meters with a screw-down crown, no=date and rugged.
An icon for decades to come.
Comparing GS's dual impulse escapement to Daniel's co-axial escapement is interesting because they take somewhat parallel approaches but have completely opposite philosophies behind them. In mechanical watch movements there is an intrinsic trade off between beat rate and wear, since higher beat movements need more torque and the parts move more frequently, both of which generate more friction. GS sees this trade off as worth it for the increased short term rate stability the higher beat rate gives you, and designed the dual-impulse escapement to minimize the drawbacks of the high beat rate through increasing energy transfer efficiency to reduce torque requirements. Daniel's did not see this kind of trade off as worth it, and designed the co-axial with the aim of absolutely minimizing wear and used low beat rates to support that goal, extending service intervals and reducing long term rate drift from lubricants in the escapement aging, but at the cost of lower short term rate stability. It's funny how diametrically opposed conclusions about the beat rate vs wear trade off produced such parallel lines of development.
Thanks for sharing this bit of analysis into the engineering tradeoffs behind two great watchmakers and brands
GS has modern material and machinery that Daniel didnt have ;)
My first big watch was an oyster perpetual. I sold it within 2 months after I discovered GS. Genuinely felt ripped off after seeing what GS does for the same price. I bought an SBGM221 and have bought a cherry blossom and 60th anniversary blue dial dress watch. They’re incomparable and I can only hope we get more brands that execute at the level they do in this price bracket. Something tells me we won’t but, I’d be happy giving them my money for the rest of my life.
The funny thing is that you probably made a profit on the Rolex 😂 just kidding, GS all day.
9R02 is a hell of movement. Both the design and finishing are insane. 9R31 is indeed a value pick in this case.
Great video! Nobody works harder for your $10k than GS, unbelievable quality for cost. White Birch HB and Shunbun are part of my collection & counting the days until the Omiwatari gets added
‘Told physics to shut up’ OMG that’s got to be up there with ‘kicked the Swiss square in the balance wheel.
Excellent stuff Andrew. 😂
Grand Seiko has always made me smile since i heard the history of the brand for the first time. That "let's beat these guys at their own game" approach that you still see in every time piece they produce today. I do love what they do. The finesse and elegance on their watches. I would only wish they would not make so many different ones as you are always in doubt if buying this one as maybe the next one will be amazing... And it will be...
I couldn't agree more. I'd add the humbleness of all this monument of a job. As Japanese, they don't like to brag about fuss. They let the product tell the customers how much care, engineering, craftsmanship, and quality are embedded in it. No sponsorships, no marketing catchphrases, no endorsement on adventure nor blingy life. Their products gently whisper, "This is not the best watch in the world, but it's our best. Hope you'll like it."
The sweep of the spring drive is so divine. Another fantastic video!
Better word is “orgasmic”
Unfortunately most GS's lose value as soon as you leave the store + the availability of GS's makes this video kind of a stretched comparison (also unfortunately because its not a swiss watch it will always be at a disadvantage)
If all you care about is resale value.
Good. Who want’s speculation?
The camera work is incredible.
Just bought my first GS, the SBGH295 soko frost. It's simply one of the most marvelous watches I've ever seen.
The Seiko escapement is quite similar to the Daniels' co-axial escapement but is more like an older design called the Robin escapement.The Robin escapement is a chronometer style escapement, with impulse to the balance directly from the escape wheel, but controlled by a lever type mechanism, it only impulses in one direction. Seiko have added a second, conventional impulse from the second locking pallet, this prevents the escapement 'setting' and stopping the watch, which was the failure of the Robin escapement in wrist watches.
I can't help but think that Seiko didn't want to be seen licencing the Daniels', so came up with the next best thing.
Hi, Thank you very much for the video, I like your Chanel a lot. What is the most underrated GS in your opinion?
I own a GS Spring Drive - and it fills my heart with happiness every time I look at it!
Out of all the watches out there, nothing can beat the spring drive. The smooth sweeping hand is just mesmerising. And we haven't even talk about the dials on GS which are the main attraction (for me).
I am learning more about this brand with your help and thinking it could be the perfect 1 watch collection.
Omiwatare is my favorite but I tend to wear more their anniversary 9F with the gold star. Next on the list is a Speake-Marin (the original, before the name was sold off).
Looking forward to getting a Seiko or Grand Seiko dive watch with Spring Drive. Nice video. Keep up the good work.
Great video. The macros were astonnishing!
Lovely episode, thank you so much for this one.
The Grand Seiko Constant Force Tourbillion Kodo SLGT003 is my grail watch.
I once fell in love with the dial of the SBGA375 the deepest darkest blue dial I'd ever seen.
Grand Seiko's Quartz movements are astoundingly amazing as well. SBGP017 "Sea of Clouds" is one such example with an exquisite dial and beast of a movement.
9F quartz movements from GS are stunning.
I’d love to get GS. But what holds me back is lack of silicon hairspring to combat magnetic problem. Hope GS introduce it to their movement and as well as weekday display.
thanks, keep it coming, you are doing great!!!
Grand Seiko is the only other watch I'd consider, if I couldn't have my beloved SMP300M..
The GS is pure beauty, and pure technology, combined in an almost perfect package..
A truly great video,,, thank you so much...
Thanks for putting together this collection GS eye candies for our enjoyment. Mercerizing as always. I personally prefer the Seiko dials for simplicity, both in design and in security, those of us here would know what I mean by the latter. The only down side with the Seiko dials is they were a thing of the past, meaning they are not paired up with the much enhanced movements of recent years such as the 9SA5. Well, such is the joy of, and struggle with, watch collecting.
Still saving for my 1st GS. So many beautiful models to choose from, and it's going to be a difficult decision to make when the time comes.
Just wanted to say that your videos are fantastic and high quality. Thank you.
Lovely presentation, as always. Thank you for. George
I would love to add a spring drive to my collection one day.
I got a GS Snowflake a couple years ago as my first quality watch and love it. The smoothness of the spring drive is unparalleled, except maybe by their high-beat movement. I also love the face of the SBGK015 Ryosendu, but would like with spring drive or high beat.
So here’s a question: how would you compare the level of finishing between Lange, GS Studio, and a general L.U.C. Chopard with a Geneva Seal?
My next watch is the White Birch 2. That spring drive sweep is so smooth.
Amazing video as usual
Grand Seiko. I love them. I have two (Shunbun SBGA413 and Godzilla SBGA405- my fav of theirs). I also love the Night Birch and the SBGK005 (possibly their best). And the GMTs (particularly SBGE257) are great.
There’s a but. And a controversial one!
Much as I respect Grand Seiko for their dials and movement.
They are watches best appreciated at 6 inches…and in well taken macro shots like this video.
You can’t fully appreciate the exquisite detail on the dial from 2 foot or more away, unless you bring the watch close. Yes the finishing is good but you need more…
This is where I hope GS focus now. The overall design, feel and bracelet. So it’s less subtle. This is where other brands are beating them (Rolex, Cartier…even Panerai) with iconic designs. AND their bracelet design isn’t there yet, and they don’t taper enough. This is where Rolex beat them. Plainer dials (although amazing natural stone and sunburst options), arguably inferior movements, but much better overall design and beautiful bracelets. This is what you feel from more than 6 inches away.
I’m saying this as a fan of GS….but currently they are mostly watches you fully appreciate in extreme close up. I say mostly, as I think the night birch, Godzilla, and SBGK005 are some of the exceptions that hold up from more than a foot away.
Amazing video. Controversial view.
mmmm….actually, I think I agree with you. Amazing close up. Need to work on the wider design and feel
Fair point
Absofuckinglutely!
Their bracelets are garbage. Fix that and Seiko ascends to God-tier.
Valid, and best comment here.
Are newer Grand Seikos going to have the power reserve indicator moved to the back? What a great choice, if so!
First i bought a seiko prospex lx gmt spring drive made in the grand seiko workshops, then a gs automatic 42mm and two days ago the sbgc231 king lion. we are at very high levels that few can reach
Wow this review! Simply brilliant. Tnx
I am a huge fan of the SPGW281. Simply stunning. Thank you.
The slgh013 is on my short list for my first luxury watch along with a 41 datejust with fluted bezel. Come on watchfinder, help me decide.
The question is posed, 'which is your favourite' and this is such a difficult one to answer. Mainly because every time I check, GS has brought out another watch that stops me in my tracks and makes my jaw drop. Honestly, truthfully, and there are no other brands that do this as consistently as they do. I've owned lots of different brands. I like to buy, enjoy, then sell and have another experience with another brand. That pretty much stopped once I bought my first GS. I have sold them but only to buy another one. You just don't admire anything as much on your wrist as you do a grand Seiko.
Alright, I am cancelling my order of a paddling pool now I guess.
that close up at the end....bravo
Much better than Rolex. Would love to see superlumanova on the dials.
I recently purchased a GS "Limited Edition" SBGW273. I am amazed by the quality of the finishing on the watch. The dial is remarkable. Very unusual, catches the light in extraordinary ways I have not seen before on a watch. I am impressed. I have other fine watches including a Patek Calatrava, a Brequet 7147 and others of like quality. I have to say the finishing on the GS surpasses these...and the watch cost less than the others also by a significant amount.
The SBGW231 really reminds me of the pure simplicity and elegance of SBGS001
SBGR001 owner here. Wouldn't change a thing about it.
Mind-blowing how something so simple can be so complex at the same time.
Wonderful video, fabulous watches. Thank you Andrew. 😊
Spring Drive will never NOT be an absolute joy to look at. Even more so with the exquisitely textured dials!
On the dial between the G and S, it is a nice touch to add the old logo of Daini Seikosha.
As always, great work.
After lots of hit and Miss attempts to get the ‘one watch’ I’ve finally cracked it with the SBGA467 and couldn’t be happier. Thanks to this channel for giving me the final nudge
Nice Video!
Bought my 1. GS in 2018 Limited Edition SBGJ227 green Peackock Dial; the Dial is one of the most beautiful I have ever seen.
I sold the Watch in 2019; much regretted, just this Week i spotted a used Peackock and bought it right away.
Now the GS is a keeper!
Great Watch at a realistic Price!
I’ve been waiting patiently for a Grand Seiko! Time to flip one of my swiss for funds
'Grand Seiko on the other hand told physics to shut up!' LOL - this guy has a way with words!
Gotta agree with Andrew, I LOVE some Rolexes, had a few Myself, but they ARE outshined by a few other Makers, Grand Seiko is DEFINITELY one of those, real thought been put into the minute aesthetics, I could spout on for Hours about My love for the Grandest of Seikos to be honest..but i'll save You the time lol.
Absolutely superb photography.
I SHALL own the Omiwatari one day…
My son has acquired several Rolex watches, most recently a Pepsi. Curiously, he often asks to look at my Snowflake. I think he secretly admires the intricate dial and sweeping second hand.
I was expecting the 9F quartz movement to be covered as well?
7:34 I saw the documentary of Philippe Dufour back in the days, I think it was named Haute Horlogerie, where he said after been asked what watches he really likes. He said: „A Grand Seiko“ it was in a time, GS wasn’t never thought to be available on European market. It opened my mind.
Jeremy Clarkson called, he wants his voice rhythm back
I think GS feels like a value purchase because it rivals the likes of JLC more than Rolex. It has to do with genuine fine watchmaking and exemplary finishing that’s better for dress watches or more elegant everyday pieces. How many people choose GS for a tool watch?
Not a tool watch per se but I wear the living day out of their 9F with the gold star.
Indeed. That is why I have both brands in my collection.
*I see GS as equivalent to PP, AP and VC.*
I wear a GS quartz GMT as my daily grab-and-go watch. It has plenty of scratches, but so what?
I LOVE Grand Seiko. I currently have a 4520-8000 from 1969, a SBGE253 (Spring Drive GMT), SBGA229 (Spring Drive diver), and my newest acquisition which arrives tomorrow, the SBGV245 (9F Quartz movement). It’s crazy how under the radar GS still is considering the value proposition with how much watch you get for the money. This isn’t to say I won’t someday buy a Rolex but I think my heart will always be with GS.
Andrew that was interesting video regarding in my opinion one of the best watchmakers in World. GS are not flashy but beautiful dials and movement up there with top Swiss makers . Kiku Whirlpool Rare loved the dial 🤔👍
SBGA-111 is the only one I own, for now. I love it. It's known for the tatami dial.
when you mirror polish the hands, make sure that the underside of the hadns above (second) is not "raw". .... the look of the underside of the seconds hand @4:40 gave me the chills :D why dont they polish that side as well ?
that's the revolution on Watch Industry, whwn spring drive technology appart, Great Innovation
Really love what Grand Seiko make and it's also amazing value for what you get. Looking to buy one myself currently. I found when comparing them to other brands like Rolex it seems to be the case of you need to spend at least twice as much to get a Rolex that is still not as nice looking as a grand seiko. In fact many Rolex's i can't help find boring to look at or even tacky even if still looking high end.
I agree wholeheartedly TF. IMHO, the datejust for example, is almost primitive in design and execution. It looks like it was designed by a child. Almost ugly.
Rolex are nothing to shout about .
The Shunbun. Favorite and crown of my watch collection. Have to see these in the metal to really appreciate them, imo. Thx for the great video
Such a good last question. I've been a Seiko enthusiast and owner for many years. To me, Seiko has always represented a quality brand but not a luxurious one. Now that I learn more about the GS brand, I have fallen into a deep interest in the quality they represent. But have never jumped into de GS terroir. It is a marvelous place. Incredible pieces. Pricey though. But the wind is blowing in GS direction. Thanks four your work!
I love the idea of the spring drive but I would be hard-pressed to tell the difference in smoothness between a Grand Seiko Spring Drive and a Bulova Precisionist by just looking at it. I've seen the Jet Star Limited Edition and there is no waivering in that second hand that I can see. It's also a lot more attainable at $500 than over $8,000.
I can say however that the GS 20th-Anniversary SBGM235 is one of my top grail watches, not because of the movement, but because of that incredible dial. I've never seen its equal.
At Watch & Wonders 2022, GS unveiled the SLGA015. I called Rolex to cancel the order I placed for the Sea Dweller, and went for the BlackStream (nickname for the SLGA015). Every collector must have gone through “Rolex phase” as a beginner, but these days, a Blancpain Fifty Fathoms took over the slot once occupied by the Submariner, the SLGA015 took over the slot reserved for the Sea Dweller. When collecting for my own pleasure, Rolex starts to feel like the Seiko. Everyone have or wants one, but it is beginning to feel boring. I prefer to have something I like, that is special to look at. This is my collection phase anyway. I am collecting for myself.
"inch of perfection" is a bit of an understatement
One of the most beautiful and classy watch I've ever seen. Bravo, GS!
I wasn’t sure what to make of Grand Seiko until I took the time to find a dealer and see for myself. GS makes Rolex look like something from a particularly inept student who wouldn’t make it past the front door, let alone anywhere near where these world standard setting watches are made. My Diver’s 200m is as awesome today as the day I first tried it on. Also not mentioned here but everything is made in-house. Even the Spron alloy in the mainspring is Seiko. Unmatched.
My grail piece was the SLGA009 and I just got it. Worth every penny and I prefer it to my Rolex
Such beautiful pieces. Grand Seiko dials and polishing are second to none. My only preference is that they drop the double branding on some of the dials. I prefer the dials that just have the logo GS and Grand Seiko under it. Spring Drive or Hi Beat on the bottom. 👍
You can see the imperfections of the underside of the second hand in the mirror image of the polished hands.
Grand Seiko puts quite a few other watches to shame if you are detail oriented and technically minded.
As of today, I own two of them, an SGBP011 with a 9F quartz movement, and the SBGW231 hand wound you showcased here. My watch collection is more or less done, I have all I want, one of those pieces being a Cartier Santos. But if I ever buy one more watch, it will be a Grand Seiko Spring Drive with a hand-wound caliber, like the recent Asaborake with the 44GS case. Then I'll have three case shapes, three movement technologies and three dial finishes. I hope to get there in the next three years.
Hey, I watched the complete video but I did not see the destroyed Rolex. Where is it ?
I do agree. Im blessed to call a grand seiko part of my other than that humble collection. But the Clickbait title IS a bit much
Superior design, better finishing quality, more advanced technology than Rolex. Enough said.😊
*But the popular mystique is so hard to create, and Rolex are the master. Rolex also make a great watch, accurate, durable, reliable and good looking, even if that last quality is subjective.*