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  • čas přidán 30. 03. 2018
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    Buffalo Bill and the pathology of identity transformation. film analysis by Rob Ager.

Komentáře • 334

  • @doncoyote68
    @doncoyote68 Před 4 lety +235

    Lecter doesn't seem to want to turn into someone else, it's more like he wants to turn other people into himself.

    • @robinblankenship9234
      @robinblankenship9234 Před 4 lety +14

      Don Coyote Yes; in an extremely literal sense.

    • @d0omsd4y
      @d0omsd4y Před 3 lety +14

      wasn't his goal to brainwash Clarice into thinking that she is Mischa? like... his sister? I mean I'm talkin' from the book's perspective, his goal was to make Clarice think she's Mischa but failed because Clarice was too strong mentally or smth and idk he kinda had a soft spot for her at some point I guess? lol my brain is just mixing the movies with the books haha

    • @chilliecheesecake
      @chilliecheesecake Před 3 lety +5

      Yes.... devouring them until theres nothing left of them but himself.

    • @sderoski1
      @sderoski1 Před 3 lety +11

      He wants a conversation with someone who isn't completely dwarfed by his intellect, Clarice is the closest he has found, can you imagine him in a session with Buffalo Bill, who like most serial killers really isn't very bright

    • @redleader4876
      @redleader4876 Před 2 lety

      100th like and 5gh rplcomemnt ?

  • @matthewalexanderlemma8000
    @matthewalexanderlemma8000 Před 6 lety +778

    "The Silence of the Lambs" is one of those brilliant, all-time great movies that would not be made today.

    • @MrDman21
      @MrDman21 Před 6 lety +108

      Agreed, it would piss off the LGBTQs too much.

    • @matthewalexanderlemma8000
      @matthewalexanderlemma8000 Před 6 lety +55

      MrDman21 Gays were even super angry about this film upon its early-'90s release. Same went for "JFK" and "Basic Instinct."

    • @matthewalexanderlemma8000
      @matthewalexanderlemma8000 Před 6 lety +14

      XtreemMetalMan A very sick mentality, indeed.

    • @kelman727
      @kelman727 Před 5 lety +14

      shoaib btt
      Usually by people who ignore one crucial scene that renders the accusation of gay-bashing entirely baseless.
      And should have been obvious then. That people still mistakenly believe this now seems ridiculous.

    • @luqas99
      @luqas99 Před 5 lety +14

      @shoaib btt Buffalo Bill wasn't a transsexual, you simp.

  • @chrisxdeboy
    @chrisxdeboy Před 6 lety +60

    Holy shit, the crossfade at 6:03, Lecter's face lines up perfectly with the stain in the cover art.

  • @2thepeople1
    @2thepeople1 Před 4 lety +62

    “It rubs the lotion on it’s skin or else it gets the hose again.”

  • @nickmattio3397
    @nickmattio3397 Před 6 lety +116

    “Are u about a size 14???”

    • @devonjones5200
      @devonjones5200 Před 3 lety +2

      Hahaha me n my friend use to say that alot to each other as a joke

    • @evanabbott2737
      @evanabbott2737 Před 3 lety +1

      I always forget about that line....so messed up..😂

    • @PratikGohil2205
      @PratikGohil2205 Před 3 lety +2

      It puts the lotion in the basket

  • @jebkush1052
    @jebkush1052 Před 6 lety +89

    I saw this movie when I was 10 years old and I've loved it ever since.

    • @redsonja2291
      @redsonja2291 Před 5 lety +6

      Who wouldn't, it's such a great movie! I wasn't that good in English when I was 10 years old, but I did see the shining when I was 8, which was not a good idea because the lady in the bathtub freaked me out, and I wasn't able to even get that much of the dialogue seeing as it was subtitled and I couldn't read that fast yet. My dad just did not care if we wanted to see something he just said, if you get scared then don't cry to me about it. I saw it with him and my little brother who was 6 years old at the time...

    • @PhantasmaAdoria
      @PhantasmaAdoria Před 5 lety +1

      Same! I was exactly 11 when I saw this and have loved it every since! :)

    • @isabella-dl3sb
      @isabella-dl3sb Před 4 lety +2

      I saw it for the first time when I was 10 but I didn’t really get much of it until I re watched it at like 14

  • @sorartificial
    @sorartificial Před 4 lety +81

    Interesting points, also I noticed a couple of things in the movie, by the end of the movie Clarice in a way evolves from her cocoon, as she kills buffalo, we see after a scene where the girl who was abducted is holding the little white dog (her lamb) and after that we see Clarice is like the girl represents Clarice's innocence who is no longer there. Also It makes a lot of sense what you say about Buffalo's mom, in the scene where he refers to the girl as it, when he asked her it should put the lotion in the basket the girl says multiple times " I miss my mommy " that triggered him, is almost as if that hole where he keeps those girls is his inner subconscious or his deeper self.

    • @chickenstrips5541
      @chickenstrips5541 Před 2 lety +3

      I like your interpretation about her being in the hole and the lotion thing. When he called her "it" to me it sounded like he was trying to treat her as something other than a human being with a life that he was about to kill so that he wouldn't feel as bad for killing and skinning her. So basically dehumanizing her before mutilating her.

    • @rodneysettle8106
      @rodneysettle8106 Před rokem +1

      @@chickenstrips5541 well most serial killers don’t see their victims as humans but as their toys to do with what they’re fantasies desire.

  • @buffalobill524
    @buffalobill524 Před 6 lety +462

    I just like girls

    • @davidsirmons
      @davidsirmons Před 6 lety +57

      is it weird that I heard that in his voice?
      is it weirder that I can actually emulate his voice?

    • @leliofirefly
      @leliofirefly Před 6 lety +44

      size 14 girls

    • @HoboJIm117
      @HoboJIm117 Před 6 lety

      low effort 0/10

    • @freddykrueger4631
      @freddykrueger4631 Před 6 lety +16

      Me too, Bill. Me too.

    • @natmcg3603
      @natmcg3603 Před 6 lety +1

      davidsirmons I read that and I heard it to and went to look at the replies and saw yours😂

  • @ThriveAfterAbuse
    @ThriveAfterAbuse Před 6 lety +32

    Your analysis is absolutely fantastic! I wouldn’t have made those connections in a million years, and now have a whole new appreciation for this movie.

  • @km-my4un
    @km-my4un Před 6 lety +26

    Fine line between transformation and self improvement .

  • @makerstudios5456
    @makerstudios5456 Před 5 lety +29

    This movie was genius. A rare perfect movie.

  • @mattwilkes9502
    @mattwilkes9502 Před 5 lety +12

    Fantastic analysis, great video. As a huge fan of the novel and film I’m amazed I didn’t pick up on some of these details. Jame’s obsession with transformation always seemed a singular theme but this sheds a lot of light.

  • @donniejohnson6060
    @donniejohnson6060 Před 6 lety +18

    I've who is clung to The Silence of the Lambs series as one of the most collectively intricate and evocative series of movies ever made
    My Commendation on your notification of hidden elements

    • @sherryisajerk
      @sherryisajerk Před 6 lety +1

      I agree! I am eager to revisit the entire series.

  • @leejohnstone4663
    @leejohnstone4663 Před 2 lety +5

    In the novel Jame Gumb is a extreme version of Norman Bates. He watches home movies of his mother and says to his dog "precious" Mommy is good to be so beautiful. So it's obvious Jame Gumb wants to be his mother. The difference between Buffalo Bill and Norman Bates is Buffalo Bill only has one personality possessing his mind

  • @johnkeenan1829
    @johnkeenan1829 Před 3 lety +14

    There's a great line in the book after Starling kills Gumb in the basement;
    "He'd put on some of his things from the armoire, and she couldn't look at him long."
    Must've gone shopping at Geins N Things

    • @Amira_Phoenix
      @Amira_Phoenix Před rokem

      No need to. Despite being a messed up person, he was a skilled tailor

  • @ScoutMotto2011
    @ScoutMotto2011 Před 5 lety +9

    At 2:20, that is not how the music should falter in a music box. It would slow down, but not normally drop in pitch. This was an added effect.

  • @gorequillnachovidal
    @gorequillnachovidal Před 6 lety +18

    Transformation

  • @hansdossche795
    @hansdossche795 Před 6 lety +7

    Can't wait to download it this evening

  • @zachb2384
    @zachb2384 Před 6 lety +6

    Nice, don't know why but I've been binging on interviews related to this movie lately. Happy to see a new Rob Ager breakdown of it in my sidebar.

  • @Starcrow999
    @Starcrow999 Před 6 lety +20

    Your videos are gold man. Love them!

  • @aravista222
    @aravista222 Před 6 lety +14

    Pilcher apparently also means a scabbard or covering. So, a noble covering? hiding something underneath?

  • @5starcomment
    @5starcomment Před 6 lety +18

    In the Hannibal novel, Thomas Harris writes: "There Is a witchy beauty about Muskrat Farm, the Verger family's mansion near the Susquehanna River in northern Maryland."
    I think the author and the producers of the film connote different things from this word: the cliché witch usually has one eye that's turned inward, like the movie version of Pilcher; but I think Harris means it more like there's something otherworldly about its appearance...
    I'm new to your videos and they're great...

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite Před 6 lety +1

      I wondered if the actor who played Pilcher actually had such an eye, if it was a contact, or done in post.

    • @tomservo5347
      @tomservo5347 Před 2 lety

      I would like to think of the 'witchy' eyes as someone possessing very striking visage and having a 'piercing gaze' as some people have been described. (For example, the historical Daniel Boone had a feature everyone noticed about him and it was called 'piercing blue eyes', like he could see within you.)

  • @logiconlyzone
    @logiconlyzone Před 5 lety +9

    There is a pathological difference between self improvement and self deciete to run away from oneself. One revolves becoming a superior person and the other a distracting illusion to run away from inadequacy. This is a common human issue and its not surprising to see it as a central theme in horror.

    • @pmaughmer
      @pmaughmer Před 4 lety +1

      You ain't human Spock, intellect is only one half of the mind.

  • @lavo-ld4wm
    @lavo-ld4wm Před 3 lety +1

    9:04 Doctor Pilcher was played by Paul Lazar, who also was the US Doctor in the Korean film "The Host" (2006)

  • @Jayskiallthewayski
    @Jayskiallthewayski Před 5 lety +11

    "Accepts her offer to a date?" Is that in the novel?

  • @ALLNAMESAREALLREADYT
    @ALLNAMESAREALLREADYT Před 6 lety +50

    is there any Twin Peaks analysis by Rob Ager here on youtube ? I would like so much to see it

    • @aarondorris7639
      @aarondorris7639 Před 6 lety +2

      same, I really want to know what he thought about the new season.

    • @element1111
      @element1111 Před 6 lety +8

      I think it's on his 'to-do' list

    • @hpvegan1625
      @hpvegan1625 Před 6 lety +5

      I found this shocking and disturbing as well. But I must say Ager's work has consumed the past 3 days of my life so I can be patient/understanding!

    • @spo616
      @spo616 Před 4 lety

      John Stromboly o- me too! I hope Rob reads the comments… Happy Mother’s Day all!🥰👋💗💕💕😻😻😻😻😻

  • @allertonoff4
    @allertonoff4 Před 6 lety +9

    your urge toward narrative closure is, ostensibly admirable.

  • @kimmyfreak200
    @kimmyfreak200 Před 2 lety +1

    i don't know if anyone noticed this but it mirrors lecters opinion of buffalo bill... he clearly isn't gay or transsexual... i don't even wanna say trans cuz he is psychotic which is why he is denied surgery... theres a scene when jodi enters the room u can see polaroids of him getting freaky with nude women and many are sitting on his lap. I think he was sexually abused to the point where he hated himself and his gender and the part where in the dark he admires starlings beauty and was tempted to touch her face...then the scene of him mimicking katherine but not just mocking her he does it differently at the beginning.. he envied them/wanted to be them to escape his body thinking he'd be happy

  • @wheelzwheela
    @wheelzwheela Před 4 lety +42

    Could never make this movie now.

    • @arbiterofreason2068
      @arbiterofreason2068 Před 4 lety +19

      The transtrenders would throw a fit. Even though they probably all liked the tv show.

    • @TheEuzkatroika
      @TheEuzkatroika Před 4 lety +1

      no way...this time every movie explode..You touch something and we got a fire..

    • @blackpoolbootz2790
      @blackpoolbootz2790 Před 3 lety +2

      I don't know buffalo bill could definitely himself as a non binary Homicidal moth lol

    • @BricksIn
      @BricksIn Před 3 lety +5

      They would just have to change some outdated medical terminology and I think it would be fine. You worry too much about things that might not actually exist.

    • @theshoes7488
      @theshoes7488 Před 3 lety +1

      @@BricksIn nah, they exist. Sounds like denial to me. In fact, this comment is all over this video (it’s the top comment of the video as well “This film could never be made today.” Is at 1400 thumbs up). Which then states that this is indeed a popular idea which means that he is not alone in his ideas which means you’re words are hallow. He may and even should worry about whatever he decides to and All the better when he’s making an observation that actually exists. Well done!

  • @kres1510
    @kres1510 Před 5 lety +3

    This was an awesome analysis, u've always wondered about this movie it's a true classic.

  • @branman81794
    @branman81794 Před 5 lety +15

    I get so tired of people saying this movie/story is transphobic. It’s made clear that gumb is not a real transexual and spoiler alert...in the book he killed his own grandparents. He’s just a deeply disturbed individual

  • @CissyBrazil
    @CissyBrazil Před 3 lety +2

    I really need to read the novel is apparently longer with more content than the movie which I’ve watched several times.

  • @JeremySalesi
    @JeremySalesi Před 6 lety +5

    Interesting when he says something like "our stomachs want to change too".

  • @nicholasbyram296
    @nicholasbyram296 Před 2 lety +2

    The desire to replicate is no understandable urge to those who desire to duplicate...nah mean...

  • @hamishspencer
    @hamishspencer Před 6 lety +43

    You're almost there. The idea of the film is that Starling will transform into a serial killer and, like the others, she will be used by Crawford to kill for the FBI.

    • @esyphillis101
      @esyphillis101 Před 6 lety +9

      That’s an interesting suggestion I’ve not heard about the film before. How did you come to that conclusion?

    • @handsomebrick
      @handsomebrick Před 6 lety +5

      I like that idea, it's creepy. There should be an actual movie like that.

    • @esyphillis101
      @esyphillis101 Před 6 lety +9

      On a conceptual and thematic level, this would actually be a pretty brilliant sequel to Silence of the Lambs.

    • @Kazekoge101
      @Kazekoge101 Před 6 lety +18

      Well your part right already,
      In the sequel book she runs off with Hannibal Lecter to Argentina as his lover. Oh and looks like his dead sister
      cause Thomas Harris couldn't be taboo enough lol

    • @laproserpina2620
      @laproserpina2620 Před 6 lety +7

      yah supposedly some hidden mk ultrA stuff. I think Hannibal said billy was 'made' a killer, to 'born'

  • @morganfarrell2442
    @morganfarrell2442 Před 5 lety +2

    What a fantastic analysis!

  • @AleAlejandro44
    @AleAlejandro44 Před 6 lety +30

    Do an analysis on Manhunter

    • @epichal4883
      @epichal4883 Před 5 lety +3

      This. I've been expecting it since the moment I got the film and watched it. It's so good I even started analyzing it myself and there's a lot of great details that most viewers overlooked, such as the importance and symbolism of the lunar landscape screen in Dollarhyde's house which ties into his "relationship with the moon" as Lecter puts it or how his posture when he dies resembles the Red Dragon from the Blake painting.

  • @sgc4271
    @sgc4271 Před 4 lety +1

    I never realized this before, but it's pretty wild that the actor who hooked Travis Bickle up with his guns to wage war in Jodi Foster's honor is also F. Bimmel's father...

  • @CapnT0bz
    @CapnT0bz Před 6 lety +6

    The first two videos I saw were "Abuse Themes in The Excorcist" and "Danny's Ordeal." I was hoping this would be a channel dedicated to proving why every character in a horror film was molested. Even though that isn't the case I am loving the content and how you completely change the way I view these movies. Thanks for the fantastic videos.

  • @spacedtime6597
    @spacedtime6597 Před 3 lety +1

    I think the part about Pilcher was edited out of the Audible recording. I remember it as Pilch's colleague Roden pestered her the most and she made a comment to Maps that "the wrong one always calls"

    • @Amira_Phoenix
      @Amira_Phoenix Před rokem

      Roden called on Clarice about the entomological analysis results, she just didn't know yet. He did not make any move on her

  • @JB-ef7ks
    @JB-ef7ks Před rokem +1

    The movie is about project monarch which is a CIA mk ultra program hence the butterfly!!

  • @kamijenkins4202
    @kamijenkins4202 Před rokem

    Great dissection and analysis of the movie and characters.

  • @beakyturf6336
    @beakyturf6336 Před 6 lety +2

    Ill try get my friend to comment.
    He says there are lots of holes in the film.
    It was one of the pieces of media he had to dissect when he was doing his psychology degree.

  • @GmRb79
    @GmRb79 Před 5 lety +4

    everyone has secrets. deep lightness to darkness.

  • @ruthy8ruthy
    @ruthy8ruthy Před měsícem

    You’re are genius Rob

  • @aakkoin
    @aakkoin Před 6 lety +1

    Love ya, Rob. Brilliant stuff, I have not found better film analyses.

  • @scottcharney1091
    @scottcharney1091 Před 3 lety +1

    Blondie is the name of the band. Debbie Harry is the singer.

  • @MrAmbisonic
    @MrAmbisonic Před 6 lety +1

    Awesome analysis!!!
    Brilliant !

  • @tomjones2348
    @tomjones2348 Před 5 lety +2

    I consider the work of Rob Ager as, nootropic. When I feel this impulse to stimulate my neuroplasticity, I simply watch one of Rob's superb presentations.

  • @bluebeard6189
    @bluebeard6189 Před 3 lety +1

    Well your analysis seems very in-depth and quite accurate to the movie, you're leaving how the movie combined many of the characters. Such as the fact that in the book it was not part of Federico's jewelry box that contained the pictures.
    So basically you're doing a brilliant analysis of a film that departs dramatically from The Source material

  • @girlwhoseeks
    @girlwhoseeks Před 3 lety +1

    Why didn’t I find this channel before

  • @K.Adler1120
    @K.Adler1120 Před 3 lety +2

    Katherine is what I want to name my daughter. I hope she's just as strong and brave and as much of a fighter as Katherine

    • @Willowtree82
      @Willowtree82 Před 3 lety

      It's a beautiful name. I used to think Karen was a beautiful name until people ruined it by calling over bearing women, Karen's, now I feel bad for anyone with that name

  • @Kjca_1998
    @Kjca_1998 Před 6 lety +3

    Where you from rob? South Liverpool?

  • @lostintechnicolor
    @lostintechnicolor Před 3 lety +1

    Jonathan Demme’s style of often filming his actors speaking directly into the camera always was always unsettling to me.

    • @sarcasticallyrearranged
      @sarcasticallyrearranged Před 3 lety

      Do you feel uncomfortable looking directly at a camera?

    • @jonnybirchyboy1560
      @jonnybirchyboy1560 Před 3 lety

      Especially when it’s a serial killer staring into you.

    • @robertbusek30
      @robertbusek30 Před měsícem

      The back and forth dialogue between Lecter and Starling before Lecter escapes is one of the creepiest scenes ever filmed, IMO.

  • @brianwarner308
    @brianwarner308 Před 6 lety +1

    awesome man great analysis!!

  • @nowankersallowed2115
    @nowankersallowed2115 Před 4 lety +1

    That written part is very important.. when faced with reality.. there's a fine line between wanting to find the good and the the potential.. and embellishing the truth in a more fantastical way.
    For those for example who may have been adopted and found out or in an orphanage.. the imagining of who the family could be or the belief of what family is can be created in a non realistic way.
    There's nothing wrong with desiring and imagining.. to think about something and then work towards it... The danger though is the expectations of a perfect world rather than a realistic one.
    There is a much needed balance between the two.
    Being that people come from different backgrounds etc means that the baseline for reality differs even within the home.
    What's normal for me may be very unnormal for another.
    Working out what defines a word is helpful. Then making sure both are understanding what that baseline is.
    You can have people go through a similar experience yet due to age or nationality, gender, personality, life experience in general will all play a part in how they interpret and then begin to work through their issues or needs.. there are a lot of varying factors. This was what I found so disturbing with mental health.
    I'm not a stupid person but was clearly being affected by something in the negative. Yet pretty much entering the doors saying a few words that they decided were of concern began to try and diagnose me. I was stunned. If this has happened on me then how many others have been treated in the same way.

  • @mookfaru835
    @mookfaru835 Před 6 lety +17

    I just bought a lamb. Today!

  • @RRRWeAreProgrammed
    @RRRWeAreProgrammed Před 2 lety +1

    Gum must of taken those photos

  • @TheEuzkatroika
    @TheEuzkatroika Před 4 lety +2

    the book and the movie itself, is about the transformation of who we are. To be better or worse people. It is ultimately about the fear of being able to be something "good or bad" of being "worse or better" of being "Heroes or beasts"..

  • @joejessup9775
    @joejessup9775 Před 6 lety +9

    The actress who plays Frederica's friend looks just like Rachel McAdams

  • @denniskuhn743
    @denniskuhn743 Před 2 lety +2

    This movie was amazing... I'd totally f me.. lmao.. this movie will always and forever be a classic

  • @paulpizzlewizzle
    @paulpizzlewizzle Před 6 lety +8

    Some bugs don't cocoon. Cocoon was a shithouse rat crazy movie btw.

  • @luigivercotti6410
    @luigivercotti6410 Před 6 lety +2

    By now I count 2 vids being suddenly removed
    -Vertigo film analysis
    -Colonel Upham: Saving Private Ryan's weak intellectual strawman
    Anyone got any more?

  • @gtrplyr6283
    @gtrplyr6283 Před 2 lety

    When Sterling saw Frederique's dress with the diamonds on the back, why did she translate the dress to Bill being gifted in sewing? Furthermore, I didn't quite follow how this led Sterling to his house.

    • @SylviaM.2204
      @SylviaM.2204 Před rokem +1

      BB´s victims were big girls. Fredericka was a big girl. And when Clarice visit the parent of Fredericka, she take a look in her room. When she found this music box with the hidden pics inside, first she knew, that her parents know nothing of the existence of F.´s "boyfriend" BB bc she hides this photos taken of her and second F. is shown half naked on this pics bc her murderer made these photos to maybe had a reason to look, how "big" his future skin would be (BB says probably to her, that he is going to make a dress for her? Or something else...). Clarice remebers the words spoken from Hannibal, that the murderer wants what he sees every day. So it must be someone with whom F. had frequent contact; living near her in the same community. Clarice is told by Frederickas parent, that before she vanished (and murdered) she sometimes sew at a house, where an older lady live. Then Clarice get the adress from F.´s parent and drive there. And who opens the door? Right, BB. When Clarice later hunts BB, she came across the rotten corpse from that old lady in the bath tub. BB killed that old lady (i don´t know, if BB killed the old lady at the same day he abducted/held F. captive).

  • @sderoski1
    @sderoski1 Před 3 lety +4

    I enjoyed this and will try the entire video, consider the cognitive dissonance between human predation and the killing and eating of animals and crafting their skins into clothing and shoes, Hannibal orders lamb chops after hearing Clarice's story, where Clarice describes the horror of witnessing how 'food' is acquired, admits that she is exhilarated by her work; she must transform herself into a predator to apprehend Bill

  • @jamesofarcadia
    @jamesofarcadia Před 4 lety +1

    sorry but your analysis falters a little, because you've missed details from the book. For example, Gumb worked at that store, not a butterfly specific store, years before Ohio (so its just placement by the director) and the polaroids of Catherine had no faces of either the she or her partner, probably because she was a senators daughter, and class is one theme which is dealt with a lot in the book, but not really touched on in the film.

  • @EmeraldLavigne
    @EmeraldLavigne Před 5 lety +1

    Goddamn you are so fucking good at this...
    Do you teach film theory or film as literature or literature analysis or something like that?

    • @mitchelll3879
      @mitchelll3879 Před rokem

      No need for the GD.. blasphemy..not necessary

  • @beemayhemful
    @beemayhemful Před 2 lety

    So, in the book, Catherine’s boyfriend is more of a presence- there’s the scene where we “meet” her and they’re discussing getting popcorn and she volunteers goes to do that rather than him. He’s mentioned a bit more, but the elements you’re talking about with her are only present in the movie. I would say if you’re using the book for her, her transformation is stereotypical of authority figures’ children: she’s introduced as being stoned in the scene with the popcorn, and painted as kind of slumming it with the boyfriend in the apartment later on. So, she’s pulling kind of a reverse Clarice ala Pulp’s “Common People”, which the new tv series actually touches on wonderfully. The white trash mountain kid who ran away to be a sophisticated authority, and the kid who ran away from sophistication and authority to be kinda trashy. Very cool video, great theses!

    • @beemayhemful
      @beemayhemful Před 2 lety

      Oh! Also! Chilton is revealed in a scene with Clarice that really lays his own aspirations and truths bare that bears rereading. Again, thanks and fantastic video!

  • @duncantheman5498
    @duncantheman5498 Před 4 lety

    Interesting analysis

  • @gaysodaniel1636
    @gaysodaniel1636 Před 4 lety +1

    I love this book n movie

    • @arbiterofreason2068
      @arbiterofreason2068 Před 4 lety +1

      Hannibal was the best of the books. I couldn't put it down! :)

    • @matimus100
      @matimus100 Před rokem

      Strange comment slightly homosexual feelings for them is totally ok tho bro

  • @youzawiggamudshark8174
    @youzawiggamudshark8174 Před 4 lety +2

    Sewing skin ain't easy, gets creases.

  • @luqas99
    @luqas99 Před 5 lety +9

    4:30 You are really reaching with this bit. The novel and the film make emphasise that Starling idolized her father and wishes she could achieve something which would have made him proud, but are clear to draw a distinction between this personal motivation and that of Jame Gumb's twisted obsession. Also, there is no hint that her trying to be a good agent is akin to changing her sex in psychological terms, I think you are seeing your own feelings in the material where they do not exist, I don't think that intepretation of yours is reflective of the original works. 5:32 I think you are also doing that here: I've seen you comment in videos before that you've had negative experiences on account of your own Liverpudlian accent, that the accent is not associated with academia or intellectual pursuit in our zeigeist, and been conscious of that while making no effort to change or adapt it. I think, therefore, that your pretty harsh connection of the recruits' (of which Starling is an exemplar) efforts to improve themselves and become agents with Starling's surface-level effort to shed her accent and even with Jame Gumb's fantasy of change is a parallel you've forced into the narrative with considerable reaching, motivated by your own sore feelings about surface change. Also, 5:52 what? A "social justice god"? He is, in the film and source mterial, a hero who worked himself terribly to advance understanding of serial killers to stop them. That's "social justice"?

  • @wilhorstman59
    @wilhorstman59 Před 6 lety

    well done

  • @matthewmcrightallright8232

    hey rob love your channels. was watching this and noticed, is that the reflection of the hostage in the reflection of the ballerina music box mirror?

  • @susansparanormalpennsylvan81

    this movie gave me nightmares for about 3 years after i saw Silence of the Lambs

    • @Amira_Phoenix
      @Amira_Phoenix Před rokem

      Seriously?.. your profile name would suggest a different attitude. 🤭

  • @brandonbailey8649
    @brandonbailey8649 Před 2 lety

    Hey Rob. Remember when Manson told his minions to murder, all he admits to is telling them to, "Do something witchy." Make what you will of that. Any time I hear the word "witchy" I think of Manson, and those horrible murders.

  • @jamesrumsey
    @jamesrumsey Před 3 lety +1

    "Bird or Animal furs..." Your city boy is showing! Birds don't have fur.

  • @GoodYegg
    @GoodYegg Před 6 lety +1

    I assume your using PAL versions of films when you use clips?

  • @johnwalsh3168
    @johnwalsh3168 Před 2 lety

    Agree!

  • @Concreteowl
    @Concreteowl Před 5 lety +4

    The film Zodiac hints at a possible snuff movie distribution among the elite. That Zodiac was killing to entertain the wealthy.

    • @jjarichardson
      @jjarichardson Před 5 lety +1

      The idea Zodiac filmed his murders was only a theory by one of the detectives on the case. Zodiac may have been a wealthy killer though - look up Kjell Qvale.

  • @Amira_Phoenix
    @Amira_Phoenix Před rokem

    From the novel I gathered that Jame's transvestite pursuits would be appreciated in certain circles, non murder tho. I will double check.

  • @torontomunda
    @torontomunda Před 3 lety

    Top ten movie of all time

  • @nickscoggins9002
    @nickscoggins9002 Před 3 lety

    That's cool Man!

  • @chrysankalcanides3746
    @chrysankalcanides3746 Před 2 lety

    Promises posted

  • @ryanjones9498
    @ryanjones9498 Před 3 lety

    That bug guy looked like Gumb’s brother

  • @mlestoll
    @mlestoll Před 5 lety

    I feel like these deeper meaning things should be understood by the audience as they watch the movie. If it has to be explained by someone later, they didn't do a very good job incorporating it into the movie.

    • @mlestoll
      @mlestoll Před 5 lety

      @carlitos puruncajas Well yeah, but you don't have to do another video explaining how maybe Neo wasn't the chosen one to understand it. He has the choice of picking either the red pill or blue pill from the beginning, so the audience knows he could have easily not really been the chosen one. If you have to explain the ambiguity later, then the writers didn't do a good enough job explaining the ambiguity in the movie, which was the whole point. I'm talking about the references to the butterflies in 'Silence of the Lambs' mainly. It doesn't really add to the ambiguity if you may not have even seen the butterflies to begin with or interpreted it as just a random decorative choice.

    • @WisteriaNerium
      @WisteriaNerium Před 5 lety

      The reason why they put little hidden things is because they expect audiences to get something new everytime they watch it, they challenge the audience to seek out these details and to understand them, ideally it doesn't has to be explained by someone later, those who are clever enough or look in the right places can figure out it by themselves but they still choose to share their interpretations of these elements to change people's perspective. The main themes are easy to understand it's the little details that should be hidden as a reward for those who pay attention.

  • @arbiterofreason2068
    @arbiterofreason2068 Před 4 lety +6

    I think Starling was wrong about Lecter. A combination of his whole experience and his IQ which is blatantly in the 200s gives him a God complex. In his opinion, he knows better and if people say he's wrong then that just shows their ignorance it shows that they're just pissants. Imagine being accomplished at everything that you do. You would feel contempt for incompetent peers after a while. And then come to the conclusion that you have no peers(that's why he's fascinated with Will Graham, he can actually keep up with Hannibal despite being left in his wake). As far as Lecter's concerned, we're not much more than animals.

    • @stephencurran2284
      @stephencurran2284 Před 2 lety +3

      “Blatantly in the 200s” not that high he’s more like 160. An iq of 200 would be the smartest person on the planet. An iq in the 200s would be the smartest to have ever lived

  • @chuckyfire8439
    @chuckyfire8439 Před 2 lety +1

    Mariposas

  • @karstenvonfjellheim5321

    It's been so long since I have seen the movie or read the novels, but I did watch the TV-show when it aired.....but can't recall if they got to Buffalo Bill? Odd.
    Anyhow, wasn't Buffalo Bill's persona(s) all made up, not what he really desired and wanted but a sort of copying of other people?

  • @willromerocomedy
    @willromerocomedy Před 3 lety +1

    "you covet what you see everyday" silence of the lambs focuses in peoples eyes and what they see. ...in general my interpretation of the film is that men view women as prey ....and women also view men as predators..all predators have an intense sight

  • @circuitdesign
    @circuitdesign Před 6 lety +5

    Best movie on the Illuminati that hardly anyone has heard of: "The International". However, it should be pointed out that this movie only touches on the financial side of the Cabal. For investigation into the satanic rituals, reference Eyes Wide Shut. For investigation into the torture and cannibalism, reference Hostel II. And if you want to know what is going on in the world, Q_anon.
    #greatawakening

  • @screenname2154
    @screenname2154 Před 3 lety

    Buffalo bill is the representation of buffalo bill personality.

  • @adamgrimsley2900
    @adamgrimsley2900 Před 5 lety +1

    His belief is not an exaggerated version of change, he is mentally ill.

    • @WisteriaNerium
      @WisteriaNerium Před 5 lety

      yeah you didn't watched everything, just seconds later he says "problem common to other characters on the film" and ironically he also says it's easy to see it as just that and not part of the themes.

  • @johnasee2049
    @johnasee2049 Před 3 lety

    Wait, you DON'T want people to share your video?
    Wut?

  • @Concreteowl
    @Concreteowl Před 6 lety

    Maybe he picked up the motif from her. He wanted something of her. Maybe he wanted to be her dream.

  • @baguettegott3409
    @baguettegott3409 Před 3 lety +7

    The transphobia in the comment section is... heavy, albeit obviously expected.

  • @brianwarner308
    @brianwarner308 Před 6 lety

    A Easy Starling

  • @spuriusscapula4829
    @spuriusscapula4829 Před 7 měsíci

    Manhunter is more interesting though.

  • @hamishspencer
    @hamishspencer Před 6 lety +2

    Crawford, social justice? You've gotta be kidding. He is obviously associated with Hoover throughout. A-

    • @BulletTooth504
      @BulletTooth504 Před 6 lety

      Wrong. He killed Benjamin Raspale because his therapy was going nowhere and basically found him to be too tedious to live, not because of flute skills.

  • @arturaskarbocius6091
    @arturaskarbocius6091 Před 6 lety

    MK-ultra project Monarch butterfly control or Iron Man MK42 model Elon Musk or Monarch control of sex slave (gimp) in show business like Madonna. Or Clockwork orange Alex old fashioned MK-ultra(violence). Even Pulp Fiction Butch in golden watch story have butterfly painting and story about noble profession of soldier have very creepy mind control vibe (OK Chrisopher Walken is very creepy guy in all his movies), and butch is boxer fly like butterfly sting like a bee :) And just Hannibal Lecter we only character even counting extras feels good in his skin (no reference to Buffalo Bill LoL)